Couldn't agree more... After many car's, my 996TT and so on I finally went up to the ultimate, RUF R-GT2... This one is a keeper forever, nothing else like it!
youre absolutly correct here. The ZR1 did the Nurburgring in 7;26 min (vs 7;32 for the gt2) and the price tag of the corvette is about half of the gt2's. The ZR1 is underestiated by the people who never red the cars'review. Its is an awsome car and for the price tag it would be folish not to considerate it. sorry for the speling
im an owner of a 88 turbo convertiable nothing gives me more excitement then to drive her and hear her roar she has 20,000 orginal miles and shes better than any wife or girlfriend hahahah
For all the hype, Ring times are just one source of data. Faster on the Nurburgring does not mean faster car. A while back, I would have agreed that the ZR-1 would be faster, but it isn't a dedicated track machine like the GT2. The only competition I can think of right now are the 430 Scuderia and Viper ACR.
Thenexthollywood, completely agree with you. That's what pisses everybody off knowing that Porsche is by far better car than Ferraris and Lambos, just remember how many times did Porsche won the Le Mans 24 hour race. This is not just a matter of a good looking car, it's also a matter of reliability!!!!!!!!!!!
Not sure about the first part where it is sitting on the lift. I understand they aren't necessarily the most reliable cars, but generally don't want to espouse that in an advert.
1988 911 turbo thats my favorite for the old school look probly because i have one but if i were to get a new one eaither a gt2 or gt3 soo eaither way it is still a rocket with for wheels
wow the tow brands being discussed by the guys below are my two favorites how could possibly choose a side vete=equals hp, and mind blowing speed for wut you pay ,,but then it barely passes as an everyday car.for,porsche=class,confyness,but then when a vette comes along for a between the lights ur prolly losing, i guess is a matter of wut are u willing to live without for my self i haven't figured out hopefully i will before im actually old enough to buy a car
The Z06 is as lighter than the GT2. And the Z06 does have run flat tires, and although it's suspension was tweaked for 07, GM could still do a little more. However, the C6 Z06 would have a hard time beating the GT2 (if it could). But the 600 hp and lighter Corvette will probably out perform it.
As far as track prowess, the ZR1 is most definitely in the same league as the GT2. Anyone who claims different is just being a fanboy. The ZR1 is an absolute complete fucking animal on the track.
i get you you want class and qualitie me two favorite makes are porsche and corvette but i get what you are saying is like vettes are just an engine where aston , porsche and mercs are part of history
it actually did it in 7:32....which is second fastest, first is the Carrera gt....and the GT3 is not as fast as on straights as the GT2..and thats what the nurburgring is mostly composed of... put it on a really twisty moutain road and the GT3 can take over
The GT3 RS is not turbocharged and has 415HP with the same 3600ccm engine. It would be possible to push it over 500HP without turbocharging, but that would decrease the engine´s life-time dramatically.
Totally agree lol. Fuck if you think about it, you know how set for life you'd be if you had a ZR1 and any 997 you want all of a sudden in your driveway? Lol.
That's because Ferrari doesn't test their cars on the Nurburgring. When a manufacturer supports the test, the car is much faster because there are engineers present to make sure the car is being driven at 100%.
The GT-R is faster than the GT2 around the Ring, yet Car and Driver and Motortrend confirmed that the Porsche is the faster car. The same will probably happen with the ZR-1.
You people dont get one thing, you cant measure the car by only lookin at the numbers, its not just the HP or acceleration, its the whole package, the feeling, steering, quality, thats what makes car better than another, sorry but ive got to say that compering ZR1 to Porshe is pointless meaby only the acceleration is in the same league but everywhere else porshe wins.
Carrera GT made 7:28. GT3 maybe has slighly better handling, being a bit lighter adn with N/A engine is more progressive than the Trubo engine. But th GT2 can make a better time in Nurburg because it has more acceleration power
Well, with you citing lap times, I thought you meant that the ZR-1 is the faster track car, but now you post acceleration times. In a straight line, the ZR-1 might be faster, but I doubt it can keep up in corners because, as I said, it is more of a GT car.
And im not a porshe fan, i wouldn`t buy it cause im a huge fan of aston martin. My point is that people who say that car A is better that car B and proof it by showing acceleration time, dont know anything about car. You just cannot compare beautifly made interior of porshe or aston to plastic corvette, the feeling and quality of european sports car is 100times better that some american where they only put lots of HP and thats all.
Who are these people dissing the Porshe? They are people that have never owned a porshe because a person who could afford one wouldn't be on here making stupid comments.
Wow Porsche's 997 GT2 is amazing.... but knowing that the Ferrari F430 Scuderia and Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 beat it in a straight line and on the track, I want to see how they respond.
no worries, no damper on the mood: 911 turbo faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile than gtr. and better brakes (july issue car and drive). granted the gtr can lap the ring faster - I guess the gtr owner can always tell this to the 911 turbo owner after he beats him off the line at a light.
WTF are you talking about?? grimeyRussian27 are you a kid or what? The Z06 is not terribly well built and neither does it have a chassis that can communicate as a Porsches can. Germans know how to build reliable cars.
You particularly named german manufacturers. And appart from VW they're the pineacle of auto engineering in the world, so I call bullshit on your "discoverings". You just can't have a more complete over the top comfy limo than the E-class, there is no faster limo than the M3, there is no better all round sportscar than a 911. I never heard of electrical problems either, that'd have killed the brand.
i dont know how people can compair a zo6 to any german car especially a porsche.. americans cannot make decent cars full stop, they probly spent months in germany tweaking it to get a good ring lap time. doesnt make it a good car coss it laps quick, dashboard is made from recycled crisp packets and u would almost certainly be wearing that V8 engine in a major crash, id rather have a golf gti than a zo6,sticking a big engine that does 4 mpg in a shit car doesnt make it good
some are ugly... like the boxster that's a pathetic porsche... basically its for all the noobs that don't want to pay 20k more for the 911's. But the GT series... like this car... they are fucking beautiful. I'd love to have one.
This is the Nissan GTR slayer. well........... after 100 mph is a slayer lol :P. but really, i guess the story is the nissan GTr sucks after 110, i mean really sucks. like the normal Gt3 does its top speed lol. and that shits totaly normal aspirated. Nissanfail.
Couldn't agree more... After many car's, my 996TT and so on I finally went up to the ultimate, RUF R-GT2... This one is a keeper forever, nothing else like it!
Walter Rohrl,A legend and a 100% jammy bugger!!! ;-)
Very well made video. I will love Porsche and classic Vw for life!
Cain Classics
Naples, Italy
For me, this is the best Porsche with Carrera Gt and 911 Turbo. Great Cars !
Ever since I was a small child I have loved Ferrari. The Pony, the legend, the mystique. Having said that the GT2 might be the best car ever made.
that was the best car, and the best video, i hope someday to own that GT2, 911s forever
What a video...What a machine...Incredible !
As far as Porsche vs. Corvette. The 911 is a driving experience, the Corvette is a thrill. Personally I'd take both.
youre absolutly correct here. The ZR1 did the Nurburgring in 7;26 min (vs 7;32 for the gt2) and the price tag of the corvette is about half of the gt2's.
The ZR1 is underestiated by the people who never red the cars'review. Its is an awsome car and for the price tag it would be folish not to considerate it.
sorry for the speling
yeah!! the Porsche 911 GT2 one of my favourite cars.
the back looks like a Gemballa....i love it
World class engineering.
excelent video! And great car, one of the bests! And great crono of nurburgring, less than 8 minutes it's a great time.
i would prefer gt3 and scuderia because they are actually built for fun, and fun is the prime thing that I seek in this car segment
im an owner of a 88 turbo convertiable nothing gives me more excitement then to drive her and hear her roar she has 20,000 orginal miles and shes better than any wife or girlfriend hahahah
only 1 car can give you such a smile like in 2:35 .Porsche
For all the hype, Ring times are just one source of data. Faster on the Nurburgring does not mean faster car. A while back, I would have agreed that the ZR-1 would be faster, but it isn't a dedicated track machine like the GT2. The only competition I can think of right now are the 430 Scuderia and Viper ACR.
absolutely mental
Thenexthollywood, completely agree with you. That's what pisses everybody off knowing that Porsche is by far better car than Ferraris and Lambos, just remember how many times did Porsche won the Le Mans 24 hour race. This is not just a matter of a good looking car, it's also a matter of reliability!!!!!!!!!!!
Not sure about the first part where it is sitting on the lift. I understand they aren't necessarily the most reliable cars, but generally don't want to espouse that in an advert.
1988 911 turbo thats my favorite for the old school look probly because i have one but if i were to get a new one eaither a gt2 or gt3 soo eaither way it is still a rocket with for wheels
Awesome video!
wow the tow brands being discussed by the guys below are my two favorites how could possibly choose a side vete=equals hp, and mind blowing speed for wut you pay ,,but then it barely passes as an everyday car.for,porsche=class,confyness,but then when a vette comes along for a between the lights ur prolly losing, i guess is a matter of wut are u willing to live without for my self i haven't figured out hopefully i will before im actually old enough to buy a car
Are you sure? What did the GT3 run the Nüburgring in? I know the GT2 did it in 1:32:00 which was something like two seconds faster than the Carrera GT
nice car everyone should have one!
The Z06 is as lighter than the GT2. And the Z06 does have run flat tires, and although it's suspension was tweaked for 07, GM could still do a little more. However, the C6 Z06 would have a hard time beating the GT2 (if it could). But the 600 hp and lighter Corvette will probably out perform it.
As far as track prowess, the ZR1 is most definitely in the same league as the GT2. Anyone who claims different is just being a fanboy. The ZR1 is an absolute complete fucking animal on the track.
Walter Rohl is such a badass XD
TUV certified. We own a pre TUV certifacation clubrace prepped SC.
Actually, many tunres have chosen to skip the variable turbo bizz and stick tried and trusted ball bearing units.
i get you you want class and qualitie me two favorite makes are porsche and corvette but i get what you are saying is like vettes are just an engine where aston , porsche and mercs are part of history
can someone tell me what the porsche rs spyder has to do with the 911 gt2? they are completely different cars.
it actually did it in 7:32....which is second fastest, first is the Carrera gt....and the GT3 is not as fast as on straights as the GT2..and thats what the nurburgring is mostly composed of... put it on a really twisty moutain road and the GT3 can take over
@robertmadman spot on mate.
i drive a 07 carerra n i wanna change..isnt the gt2 out now
The GT3 RS is not turbocharged and has 415HP with the same 3600ccm engine. It would be possible to push it over 500HP without turbocharging, but that would decrease the engine´s life-time dramatically.
Totally agree lol. Fuck if you think about it, you know how set for life you'd be if you had a ZR1 and any 997 you want all of a sudden in your driveway? Lol.
@JohnTheHater u'll fnd thats the competition version of the gt2
Very Sweet!!
That's because Ferrari doesn't test their cars on the Nurburgring. When a manufacturer supports the test, the car is much faster because there are engineers present to make sure the car is being driven at 100%.
The GT-R is faster than the GT2 around the Ring, yet Car and Driver and Motortrend confirmed that the Porsche is the faster car. The same will probably happen with the ZR-1.
Yes thats a good comment of you, i have no idea how somebody can compare Porsche with Nissan. It´s the same like comparing Potatoes with caviar. :-)
@FabiNeme well said! plus no cars in gt2's category, even with better hp cant match the value of the porche ! porche has better acceleration
Yep. Either the GT2 or the 430 Scuderia.
Probably the GT2.
Howlyshit 7:32 at the ring is pure win.
I love this car !!!
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why porsche doesnt race in the F1?? any clue!!??? awesome car the gt2... i want it :D
You people dont get one thing, you cant measure the car by only lookin at the numbers, its not just the HP or acceleration, its the whole package, the feeling, steering, quality, thats what makes car better than another, sorry but ive got to say that compering ZR1 to Porshe is pointless meaby only the acceleration is in the same league but everywhere else porshe wins.
@FabiNeme GTR can compete with Porsche but he point is porsche's interior is way better then Nissan. Not to mention, GT2 RS is out of this world.
Man my dream car. I could buy 10 of them but the wife won't let me. baaaaaa. Oh well some day. I'll get a brand new one. Can't wait :)~
Carrera GT made 7:28. GT3 maybe has slighly better handling, being a bit lighter adn with N/A engine is more progressive than the Trubo engine. But th GT2 can make a better time in Nurburg because it has more acceleration power
Yes true but its a VERY GOOD toy =) As fast as GT2 with less quality but more reliability and AFFORTIBILITY!
who is that old guy?
in the nurinberg ring was where i was talking about
Well, with you citing lap times, I thought you meant that the ZR-1 is the faster track car, but now you post acceleration times. In a straight line, the ZR-1 might be faster, but I doubt it can keep up in corners because, as I said, it is more of a GT car.
Porsche has more style than the Nissan, aside from that is Porsche german engineering at its best
of course it is
my friend uncle had this baby 3 yrs ago I was like WHAT DAA@!!!
yep.. thats Walter Roehrl, chief Porsche test driver
true that man
And im not a porshe fan, i wouldn`t buy it cause im a huge fan of aston martin. My point is that people who say that car A is better that car B and proof it by showing acceleration time, dont know anything about car. You just cannot compare beautifly made interior of porshe or aston to plastic corvette, the feeling and quality of european sports car is 100times better that some american where they only put lots of HP and thats all.
It's not the answer for the gt-r. It's a benchmark =)
it would be between this and the 430 scuderia
Considering that the 911 GT2 costs upwards of $40,000 more than a Nissan GT-R, it God damn well better be faster.
Who are these people dissing the Porshe? They are people that have never owned a porshe because a person who could afford one wouldn't be on here making stupid comments.
But of course, the GT2 is turbocharged because it is the sports version of the Porsche Turbo.
@ FabiNeme: I'd agree with you, except that it already does.
well of course, nissan was fast but it was mosty used as a handling car, or tuner car
Wow Porsche's 997 GT2 is amazing.... but knowing that the Ferrari F430 Scuderia and Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 beat it in a straight line and on the track, I want to see how they respond.
@brazzr The GT2 RS 7:18 @ the ring = faster than GTR.
yes.
OOoooooohhhhhh YYYYYeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh
2.40-3.00 = win
@JohnTheHater yea it is lol, they proved it around the nurburgring
You are right, but that doesn't mean I am wrong.
no worries, no damper on the mood:
911 turbo faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile than gtr. and better brakes (july issue car and drive). granted the gtr can lap the ring faster - I guess the gtr owner can always tell this to the 911 turbo owner after he beats him off the line at a light.
I´d prefer gt3 or 430 scuderia to this car
hahaha wow, I don't know why I put 1:32, but I meant 7:32.
Does the GT3 weigh quite a bit less than the GT2 then?
big deal, the new skyline beat it by 17 seconds
and by how it is going it will be like 40k less than the porshe
yes
yea porsche can get 415 from a n/a 6 cylinder.
Nissan gt cant compete with Porsche...
NEVER!
no they are not ugly but they are pretty fast
GT3 slightly.
and neither can compete with a caterham super7
want 1
güzel araba
nissan gt-r 7.38 without rohrl
ne fun men?
@WGeghM3GTR gud to no...
...at half the price
WTF are you talking about?? grimeyRussian27 are you a kid or what? The Z06 is not terribly well built and neither does it have a chassis that can communicate as a Porsches can. Germans know how to build reliable cars.
You particularly named german manufacturers. And appart from VW they're the pineacle of auto engineering in the world, so I call bullshit on your "discoverings". You just can't have a more complete over the top comfy limo than the E-class, there is no faster limo than the M3, there is no better all round sportscar than a 911. I never heard of electrical problems either, that'd have killed the brand.
the gtr35 is a joke it has nothing on the gt2
Nothing. The Z06 is nowhere near as developed,well built or technologically advanced as the 911GT2.
yea porche cant compare with the new gtr cos the gtr is quicker
i dont know how people can compair a zo6 to any german car especially a porsche.. americans cannot make decent cars full stop, they probly spent months in germany tweaking it to get a good ring lap time. doesnt make it a good car coss it laps quick, dashboard is made from recycled crisp packets and u would almost certainly be wearing that V8 engine in a major crash, id rather have a golf gti than a zo6,sticking a big engine that does 4 mpg in a shit car doesnt make it good
some are ugly... like the boxster that's a pathetic porsche... basically its for all the noobs that don't want to pay 20k more for the 911's.
But the GT series... like this car... they are fucking beautiful. I'd love to have one.
This is the Nissan GTR slayer.
well........... after 100 mph is a slayer lol :P.
but really, i guess the story is the nissan GTr sucks after 110, i mean really sucks.
like the normal Gt3 does its top speed lol. and that shits totaly normal aspirated.
Nissanfail.