to be fair, we also wondered how Hoyo was gonna make Furina stronger than Xingqiu and Yelan, and turns out it's by making her fill out an entirely different niche, so it could be done
@@readmuvluv I mean xingqiu is only a sub DPS but Bennet is a buffer and healer and xianling is a sub DPS with no ICD on vape rxn so if they make pyro archon stronger then both of these(Which they will) then she automatically becomes a must pull
Genshin did this on purpose I'm sure of it lmao Not only that he's unlucky but brining him to abyss is no less than a bringing a lucky charm, and he's most unluckiest lucky person ever, he encounteres deaths but always comes out alive and bro was found in like literal land of dead its crazy how did he even survive. I hope Genshin makes explores his story soon along with the Witches.
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Bennett. I try to play Chevreuse, my Bennett buffs more damage. I try to play Sucrose, my Bennett buffs more damage. I try to play Furina, my Bennett buffs more damage without losing HP. I want to play Diluc, his best team has Bennett. I want to play Wriothesley, his best team has Bennett. I want to play Raiden, Childe, they both want Bennett. Even Ayaka's best boss team needs Bennett. He grabs me by the throat. I fish for him. I cook for him. I give him the pipe. He isn't satisfied. I pull for Favonius Sword. "I don't need this much ER" He tells me. "Give me more base attack." He grabs Paimon and forces me to throw her into the enemies. "You just need to funnel me more. I can buff more damage with Mistsplitter." I can't pull for Mistsplitter, I don't have enough primogems. He grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." He grabs his backpack. He says "BROKEN DA BROKEN!" There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, 2s CD skill and 1000 attack buff circle impact. What a cruel world.
Sucrose being below Faruzan whos only real role is anemo hyper carry is straight up criminal dude. Dont even get me started on Xingqiu being lower than Xiangling, Kuki and Fischl man. Xingqiu and Sucrose have way more utillity and overall things to offer than Faruzan who only realistically buffs 2 characters, Kuki who is amazing in hyperbloom but terrible everywhere else, Xiangling and Fischl who at the end of the day, is only real purposes is damage. And yes, Chevruse is amazing, but number 1? No. Just no.
Was just about to comment here about Sucrose, but especially Xingqiu. Feel like he got it wrong, it's not that Xingqiu is competing with the best hydro units in the game- they are competing with him.
C6 Sucrose is awesome, I like her better than Kazuha because she doesn't clutter up my screen with a sh*tton of leaves that make it hard for me to see anything (and also weird out my eyes). Plus it's fun watching her flip enemies like she's tossing pizza dough.
Side thought -- with hyperbloom being one of the most powerful DPS sources in the game, Kuki becomes a must for abyss almost every floor. And she has healing?? That scales off the EM?? Totally broken, opens up the whole rest of your team for your bloom reaction and damage. You don't have to build crit on her, so every player can get her max damage just by farming enough elemental mastery artifacts. And if you can get them on the Paradise Lost set, she goes crazy. She's not a direct dps, but that's honestly BETTER news because you don't have to try and get a good enough weapon (craftable iron sting is great) and spend thousands of resin and artifact exp on trying to roll crit rate and dmg... Don't get me wrong, Xiangling is amazing and fits in nearly every team. So she still ranks above Kuki for flexibility and staying power. But Kuki is UP there =D
when Xingqiu is both in Starglitter shop and Lantern Rite, i don't think it's unrealistic to say that every account will eventually get a C6 Xingqiu. and if they keep making Abyss floors with elemental checks like the one we just got, i don't think i'll be benching him any time soon.
I've been a XQ defender, but lately I struggle to find use for him or Yelan on my teams. Most Fontaine on-fielders don't want xq/yelan on their best teams. If you're playing pre-4.0 on-fielders or slightly worse teams he works, but anyone except Navia would easily prefer other options.
@@Kmn483Simple, a beginner doesn't have Yelan, she reruns extremely rarely and is a side grade to XQ. End game accounts that don't have 5 star restrictions obviously start using less 4* units.
@@planetary-rendez-vous This isn't a beginner tier list. If it were, Barbara and Noelle would be on here. Razor would be a likely candidate as well. You spend very little time as a beginner, compared to any other period as a genshin player. Also, I was grouping xq with yelan since they're both pretty interchangeable. I'm considering XQ's placement as if he were himself or yelan, rather than fighting for a spot in the meta against her. The real competition comes from Furina, which will rerun yearly and every play should get before they try to 36-star the abyss. Because of Furina, XQ or Yelan both lose a spot on many teams.
@@planetary-rendez-vous Xinqiu doesn’t reach his max potential till C6 and that con is what’s being considered in this video. It would be much more reasonable to assume a beginner has a C0 Yelan than a C6 XQ especially considering Yelan is still one of the most owned 5 stars
I would have turned the Xingqiu argument around: He is the reason why I still haven't pulled for Yelan (she's simply one of the chars I like the least, don't come for me) and for a 4star being so good that you don't really need to pull for one of the best 5stars in the game is just on a level of it's own. Also, I somewhat see the negative point "you need him C6" as irrelevant, because some made it into this list despite the C6 being so important (Gaming, Faruzan...) and they are by far not as versatile when it comes to team building as Xingqiu. So, imo he's still in a higher position than Kuki and Chevreuse. And I say that despite having the latter built+C6 and Kuki being my fav girl in Genshin.
Yes I agreed with you, but he is actually more versatile then chevreuse but saying he is better then chevreuse is not valid, just think chevreuse can remove kazuha lev cherecter at Pyro electro team which is a huge thing, and at c6 she is crazy Yes I agreed with you that xingqiu is a broken character but at this point of the game many characters outshine him, but still I think he is better than kuki
I totally agree with you. I had xingqiu since the early game. He's so good that he never left my team till I got Furina. I still use her with Arlechino and Neuv when on co-op for interruption resistance. He and Hu Tao carried me for a long time and he was at c0 for a long time. Personally, I think he's the best 4 star.
I'm not planning to pull for yelan either, she has such a crusty personality in the story. always running off and super cold, no emotion, very boring. everyone says her and xingqiu are practically interchangeable in team comps so why would I want her
Exactly he literally the only 4 star hydro that actually good the others are…. Barbruh very replaceable;candace niche;and let pretend hydro traveler doesn’t exist….
The recent Imaginarium cycle showed how expendable Kuki and Faruzan are. Yes, in ideal situation they are pretty useful, but the moment they step outside their niche their value drops off hard. Whereas Bennett/Xiangling and Beidou/Fischl were like holy water being hoarded for the key battles.
He's a bit biased by the Fontaine releases, but if you consider them then it's fair. Look at the units we got in Fontaine and you'll see most of them don't want Fischl or XQ on their best teams. Fischl is wanted on Chlorinde & Arle (the later only because of Chev), while XQ is wanted on Navia. That's about it. Sumeru on the other hand was THRIVING off both, with Fischl being on any spread/aggravate team, and XQ (or yelan) being needed for hyperbloom at the time. But that was a year ago, and Fontaine has introduced powercreep. Sumeru teams are still fine, but by no means dominating like they did before.
@Kmn483 they literally are any worse. Fischl can be used in nearly any team as battery and xingqiu hydro ap + dmg redction with interruption resistance is still top. And yet kuki with her only team being hyperbloom is in top 3.
@MO-zk8qs i can say the same thing about every character and thats just because we have more options than 1/2 years ago. You can throw xingqiu with fischl anywhere as long as you use normal attacks. There is not many teams where you are not doing this.
im really tired of content creators doing this thing where they have to make content/ranks/whatever and try to pretend like new niche units outdo old ones. xingqiu, benny, fischl, etc have literally handicapped the game from being so good, the only way they could think to get around them is with another version (yelan to xingqiu) or creating things so specific they can't fill (fischl not being able to target bloom seeds with oz) most new characters are not beating them. i think it also gets into, this sorts of videos never consider that the reason these characters are so good isn't just because of their kits. its also the fact that they are easy to obtain, upgrade, and gear out and that they do so well while being unrestricted. faruzan and chevy are not benny/xingqiu level, because of the nicheness, requirements to function, etc
FUCK YEAH Chevreuse in first place! A lot of people forget she is straight up the best buffer in the game. She gives almost as much damage% as Furina, the second highest attack buff, a 40% res shred on two elements, and has good healing AS WELL AS being able to deal damage at the same time. I only wish her skills scaled on HP because then, my god, she’d be broken OP.
I actually think Faruzan is the best buffer in the game, Chevreuse is a very close second. Mostly because Faruzans buffs are unconditional and last 22s, plus her buffs are instantaneous, team wide, and no team restrictions. Her buff also don't depend on her stats, so she even can use lvl 0 4 star artifacts as long as you can get to 200% ER 38.9 Dmg% + 30% Res shred + 40% crit dmg + 20% Atk(tenacity set) + off field persistent grouping that frequently staggers enemies is hard to beat.
I don't really understand putting neuvillette in the compression with Xingqiu because unlike yelan and furina neuvillette is just do damage characters and his best teams are the teams that maximize his own damage output instead of his hydro application he might as well be a geo character in that regard
Yeah right? Even though I do have neuv he literally does not replace xingqiu on any of my teams. One is a hydro onfielder the other is an offielder. The only real competition to xingqiu are yelan and furina (who has much higher damage/amps but in return needs a team wide healer and slower hydro)
I've been a XQ defender, but lately I struggle to find use for him or Yelan on my teams. Most Fontaine on-fielders don't want xq/yelan on their best teams. Arleccino & Chlorinde would rather Chevruse; Wrio wants melt; Lyney wants shield, swirl, chev or furina; Only Navia really wants xq/yelan... and it's debatable if they're needed on her best teams with furina, xianyun, bennett, xl, chiori, & zhongli crowding out her slots. XQ/Yelan is usually now a 3rd option rather than 1st. So if you're playing 4.0+ characters... XQ just isn't worth it.
His one weakness is that he's very replacable. If we take these characters in a vaccum, Xingqiu would be the best one. But that's not how grading these characters work. Opportunity cost is a very real thing.
@@D4C_267I understand where your coming from, but she does do more DMG, and you can also use them together, or use one on each side. IDK from my perspective and if I had the opportunity to pull a 2nd Kazuha I would.
For xingqiu value, just use him against copelius without shield, then swap him for yelan or furina, you will instantly feel the difference, also his hydro application is just the best, I have all of neuvi, furina and yelan but i still use him on double hydro hyperbloom on one half and neuvi hypercarry on the other
Xinqiu has damage reduction, can deal high damage off field, can generate a lot of particles, super armor, interuption resistance, damage buff, heal, and the most consistent hydro off field applicator in the game (even better than yelan) and you put him in number 5....
-Dmg reduction is useless if u already can survive without it. It only adds a extra layer of comfort but the abyss is dps check not a comfort check - can deal good off field dmg. Not high. "High" would be something Furina,Yelan,Xiangling or Emilie level of dmg. -"dmg buff" Only for other hydro units. This can be useful on a double hydro team with furina or yelan (but yelan + furina is way more broken than that) but otherwise its almost useless since u dont pair him with hydro dps units. -super armor and interput resistance is basically the same thing and XQ dosnt give full interrupt resist. In hutao teams, the interrupt resist he gives is almost equal to a shield cuz hutao has her own interrupt resist and it stacks. -"heal" Be for real here. He dosnt heal. A 6k heal per 20s is not it. Pretty sure even prototype amber is a better "healer" than XQ. - "most consistent hydro app in the game" Sure, he has the fastest off field hydro in the game but it dosnt matter since none of the teams need that much hydro app. All the vape carries can vape consistently with Yelan and/or Furinas hydro app. All the best hyperbloom teams (alhaitham quickbloom and cyno quickbloom) uses Furina and Yelan cuz XQ butchers the quicken uptime. Nilou teams are the only team where it really cares about XQs hydro app but even then C6 Candace is better cuz of the AoE hydro app and kokomi is better than both. XQ is good no doubt but we are at a point where being good at many but best at nothing is less valuable than before and the hydro off fielder role is heavily competitive with Yelan and Furina being better in almost every situation.
He's biased by the Fontaine teams... which really don't want XQ for their best teams. Only Navia wants XQ (or yelan). Every other new on-fielder would rather have other units. If you're still mostly rocking Sumeru or before on-fielders, than yeah XQ is great. But otherwise, he's really not as important anymore.
@@deltaspecies1697in some teams xinqiu do the difference, kazutao, bloom and hyperbloom, in some tasers, xinqiu stays giving a lot of things in one character, and belive or not, the hyper armor, heal, and dmg resistance makes the difference in teams without healers
@@lemni_s For VV vape, u can play with Yelan. You will still get vapes on ur CAs even with Yelan. Bloom doesn't use XQ over kokomi or Candace, but yea, nilou bloom is pretty much the only team that cares about the hydro app, as i mentioned in the og comment Hyperbloom doesn't care either. Why ? Cuz the best hyperbloom teams are Alhaitham quickbloom and Cyno quickbloom Bloom, and both of them prefer Yelan / Furina over XQ. If u want to go for double hydro hyperbloom with nahida as the driver, Yelan + Furina are the best hydro units for that team. Pretty much every single team these days uses a healer or a shielder. Tasers' best team version is with furina, and that team uses a healer. There are essentially 0 teams in the meta that don't use a healer these days.
@@Kmn483 Considering that the vast majority of characters are pre-Fontaine, I'd say Xingqiu is still hella damn relevant. Also, Gaming and Xingqiu are inseparable combat besties. Technically Gaming was released during the Fontaine era. Hence, XQ is still very relevant and probably always will be.
What I learned from this video: My teambuilding is heavily restricted by the fact that there's no way to guarantee key constellations for tons of 4*, meanwhile I can guarantee the 5* parts of a team.
Thissss 😩 everybody talks about lantern rite and starglitter as if that’s gonna somehow get all of my 4*’s to C6 lol. It always feels irrelevant to talk about c6 4*’s to me. Like, of course they’re usually super strong. They’re a massive investment to acquire. I’m more interested in who’s really strong below c3.
@@LiterallyJustAnActualPotato Even the ones from the starglitter shop take an eternity if it's a high con you need. Let's say 5* only reran once a year, in that time you can only guarantee two copies, 3 if they're from Liyue and you need 7 for some.
@@LiterallyJustAnActualPotato C6 4-stars are endgame content, little bonuses you sprinkle through your teams. Although really, it's just C6 faruzan. The others (like Yun Jin, Thoma, Xingqiu, Fischl, etc) are a bonus on top of an already-useful unit. You'd have them built and in rotation anyway. If you're a Noelle stan, you need C6. But you don't need her to clear endgame, she's just for fun. C6 gorou is a crit dmg boost, but he's clutch for DEF-scaling units at C0. C6 Kujou Sara exists. That's it. Unnecessary, clunky to play for buffs, and only a for-funsies investment if you like her. C6 Freminet and Gaming are nice boosts, but they will always have a lower damage ceiling than a 5-star, so play them at any con if you find their playstyle fun. Honestly the endgame is easy enough and 5-stars are accessible enough (and hyperbloom exists) that you won't find yourself hurting for lack of a C6.
For me Xingqiu being "comparable" to other viable 5-star equivalents brings his value up, not down. This allows players to get the units they actually need, at least for the beginning portion of account progression. Looking back at 4.0, I chose Lynney over Yelan, skipped Neuvilette to save for Furina, then afterwards I had enough currency leftover to get Navia (my favorite character that I was originally going to skip). Sure it's anecdotal, but you don't get bonus rewards for speedrunning Abyss either, not to mention player skill differences, etc. His "constellation issue" is also overexaggerated because he's in the starglitter shop. I'm biased towards waterboy, but I do think my account would be in much worse shape if he wasn't a viable stand-in for these units.
If you're interested in a novel on Genshin 4-stars, read on! Roughly in order: Bennett Xiangling Xingqiu Fischl Sucrose Lynette -- beefy taunt, works on heavy enemies that Sucrose can't crowd control. Shinobu Yun Jin (how was she not even on this list??) Diona -- shields AND heals. If you're a new player, build her right now. Also has a speed buff for overworld. Layla -- super stronk shield YaoYao -- nearly always-on heals, some dendro application, and most importantly a burst that heals your entire team SUPER fast, faster than Baizhu at same investment. Beidou -- off-field electro that buffs normals AND charged, budget raiden for overload. Synergizes with Yanfei. If the top ranked units and/or hyperbloom aren't cutting it for damage, or you're bored: Noelle but C6 Gaming as burst DPS, maybe C6 needed idk but then he might rank around Yanfei without the C6 crit dmg buff. Chongyun burst nuke, and/or with Dragon's Bane/300 EM on-field Xiangling for melt. Yanfei, can apply pyro with no cooldown if you rotate between normal attacks, charged, skill, burst, and repeat. Works with Xingqiu, Beidou, Kaeya and Rosaria for reverse melt, etc. Build only for a specific team: Gorou -- as a support specifically for Noelle C6 or 5-star def-scaling DPS's. C0 Faruzan -- as a decent buff for anemo, C6 Faruzan as an AMAZING buff and crowd control for anemo. Certainly if you have Xiao and C6 Faruzan, build her now. critiques of the video: Maybe I'm using Kirara wrong, but she doesn't even rank.. her shield is weaker than Layla's. Getting her dendro application to land off-field is uncomfortably annoying. YaoYao targets enemies and dendro traveler has a large AoE, the cardamoms are kind of a joke for application with their delayed burst. If you're running her on-field for dendro application in neko state, the only 4-star off-field hydro applicator for hyperbloom is Barbara, which is not a lot of hydro application. Xingqiu + dendro traveler for blooms is far better. If you want some mid shields, good overworld climbing, kinda useless dendro application, and dendro resonance for your team... I guess. Honorable mention, especially for Natlan: Kachina, but only WITH her new Cinder City artifact set. Literally any 4 pieces, any main stats, unleveled. You just want the set bonus. 40% damage bonus for the element she crystallizes with, works off-field, her elemental skill stays while she's off-field, and the buff lasts decently long. It's a fixed Archaic Petra support. Low investment, get her leveled just enough to not die instantly while throwing her skill down, (and/or leveled HP flower + her DEF polearm), leave all her skills at level 1. And she's very helpful for Natlan exploring, with her fast skill that climbs anything (ANYTHING) and the ability to swap to her while mid-action with another character. Dishonorable mention: Xinyan. Never build her unless you LOVE her. Shield is trash, and pyro has direct counter-synergy with superconduct, which is a requirement to make physical do enough damage to be even worth trying. It melts the cryo and overloads the electro, who designed this character? Just run Kaeya and Lisa.
Putting chevruse and kuki higher than xq is super weird take. Kuki have only one good team - hyperbloom, when xq can be used in many meta teams like hyperbloom, vape, mono hydro and more. Bennet and xq are tier above over other 4star units. Btw c6 xq > yelan c0
Kuki only has one good team, yes. But that team is very busted, you could clear the game. You only need what? C0-C2, EM, HB teammates. You could argue that XQ has the better kit, but he needs more investment than Kuki does. What does XQ need? R5 gacha sword(Sacrificial), 200%
@@jetherjohnsim8748xingqiu can use the emblem domain which you probably already have since many burst sub dps and raiden use it. And xingqiu doesnt even require emblem. Big chance is, you already have some 2 piece combinations that xingqiu can use. The investment isnt even that bad. For a long time, i didnt even use sacrificial and r5 isnt even required since his skill hits twice. If you have lost 50/50 to furina(like me) and dont have yelan(i have her but it doesnt matter rn) xingqiu is the only reliable hydro. And xiangling and fischl also need investment and a lot more investment since their main purpose is dmg(and xiangling pretty much requiring bennett to snapshot his atk buff and give her energy) while xingqiu can offer interruption resistance, little healing, and ton of hydro application and decent dmg.Also, hyperbloom team wont even be possible without furina, yelan or kokomi which are all 5 star characters locked behind gacha system
@catchanka667 almost every character needs someone to function. Are we forgetting the fact that this game is about team building and elemental reactions?
idk why you're mentioning neuvilette and furina while talking about xingqiu, being hydro is the only thing they have in common. furina cant apply enough hydro fro consistent vapes unless you're plunging and even then its iffy. he should only be compared to yelan and i think everyone overestimates yelan coz of her passive, that's quite unfortunate
Yeah people really try to say that xingqui is overrated when he's one of the best unit in the game overall. Comparing furina, yelan, and neuvillete to xingqui is just solidifying the fact that he's busted
@luffy458 Fischl is way better for aggravate tho, her sub dps ceiling especially with Nahida is high af and r5 stringless makes her an aggravate monster
@@imtransfemmadoka Hyperbloom is still the stronger reaction though. I agree, Fischl makes aggravate great, but hyperbloom is just more important to consider. Especially with Furina in the mix now.
@@Kmn483 no such thing as a "better reaction". hyperbloom is more f2p friendly but falls off hard after you get a decent set with 1k EM for kuki and a c0 nahida. aggravate has a very high ceiling of investment bc every constellation, weapon or artifact improvement you get will increase your DPS way more than getting a piece with 2 more rolls in EM for hyperbloom.
All you need: Xingqui, Bennett, Xiangling, Fischl, Kuki. All are basically 5 stars. Add on Yao Yao for elemental reactions and healing, along with Sucrose for EM buffing and swirls, and you’ve got a great base of 4 stars. Rosaria is also great value. Every other 4 star is just a cherry on top, and not really necessary for an account. I say this as someone who has played all of them.
@@4ny3ody You're right. At least four of them rotate on the shop every few months, so it's at least feasible that everyone can eventually collect their cons. Kuki's the only one people would have to pull for. I still think all of them are great at C0, except Bennett who needs C1. I stand by my comment that they're up there with 5 stars once they're at C6.
@@K-Ville Most people are not saving up starglitter to buy cons from the shop. They use their starglitter on wishes so they have more chances to pull for characters they want.
@@bookswithike3256 Then that's their mistake. Better to save up for a guaranteed constellation for an OP 4 Star (unless their pity is super close for a busted 5 star like Furina or Neuvilette).
I'm pleasantly surprised. People are usually deadset on National being the best 4 stars, but its really just not the case anymore. Kuki being at C0 with +0% ER single-handedly enables without a doubt the strongest reaction in the game. Even a new player can abuse it in early game with the free 4 stars, and she stays BiS even into late game. Tbh, I'd also put her above Chevreuse, but she's also somewhat similar in the single-handed enabling of strong comps at all investment levels. National is really strong, but vape isn't the uncontested best reaction anymore and those units also require expensive investment before they become good (except for Bennet, he still arguably deserves at least a top 3 spot).
I agree and don't, Kuki is the strongest most T0 C0 character in the game until you start finally getting great artifacts for whole teams of characters, then she is simply good, id put like 5th in top 5, but im fine with his placement of her because older players like myself with developed accounts don't need Jellos opinions, newer ones do and for that its really important and poignant. This lies is complete contrast with how he places Chevreuse but its his personal list, and Chevreuse atm does infact get under valued simply because no one has her at C6 let alone gets to experiment with her, so i think hes trying to be ahead of the curve so people know YES she is a big deal, even if others may argue he is overselling it
I only have 2 hydro characters built and leveled... Furina and Xingqiu. Only way I could beat the pyro lectors in the current and last spiral abyss floor 12 was by doing a team consisting of Furina, Kazuha, Xingqiu, and an on-field Yaoyao... :skull: Furina EQ, Kazuha EQ, Xingqiu EQ, Yaoyao EQ, then run around doing normal attacks while the blooms do their thing. Rinse and repeat. By no means did I 3-star floor 12, but a win is a win lol. Yaoyao is great
As soon as you said Fischl #4 I was like... wait a minute... there's not enough spots left above. Thought for sure you forgot either Kuki or Chevreuse but when I saw her at #1 I was like oh, "Benny's a 6 star" coming right up 😂 I think I agree with your placements, the way you explained it. The only thing I would add is that Kuki actually has 100% uptime at c2+ but it requires her to be able to swap in every 15 sec. That's usually not a problem in pure hyperbloom teams but can sometimes be an issue in Alhaitham quick bloom and a few others.
Same here! I knew he'd have Chevreuse and Kuki up there with the power 5, and was squinting at the last few placements when I realized he had to be either leaving someone out or doing something like a tie for first place.
My personal: 1. Bennett 2. Xiangling 3. Xingqiu 4. Kuki And honestly I don't tend to use anyone else of 4* that much, maybe occasionally Beidou & Fischl and Kaeya.
Only having one team is sadly no argument when said team is busted. I'd rather have Kuki or Childe who are only good in one team that's at least super busted than Cyno or Wriothesley who have 20+ different teams that all are equally trash
I don’t think Bennett is THAT cringe to play. The magu kenki with Bennett is pretty cringe though. That MF is allergic to bennetts circle lmao. I just got Benny C6 this morning. Can’t wait for Xianyun rerun to try out the new team archetypes I’ll be able to run once I have her.
I would also give credit to the 3 shielders as well. Thoma, Layla, and Diona. Thoma honestly is like Kuki but just unlucky that Hyperbloom is better than Burgeon, Layla is your budget Zhongli if Thoma isn't build to be a shielder, and Diona which she offers all your defensive needs like Healing and Shielding.
the only issue i have with this whole list is i think Layla should be on this list. as someone who doesn't have zhongli, she's utterly invaluable in a lot of teams. and her c6 makes her dps and cryo application solid (or at least not embarrassing) and combined with her low ER requirements and her silly strong shield just make her the copium zhongli. Would i use her anywhere near as much if i had daddy geo? nope. but lacking him there really is no better alternative when you need a shield. is she better all round then kirara or yaoyao? meh... again i think it all depends on daddy geo. if you have him i doubt layla gets a lot of playtime. if you don't layla becomes one of the more useful 4* you'll have.
Disagree. Layla shouldn’t be on this list at all. Shielders in general have fallen off immensely. Zhongli is an exception because of the resistance shred he gives and the fact that he can hold 4p archaic petra. I can’t really think of any team other than maybe freeze Ganyu or Yoimiya variants where Layla would be the first choice 4-star option. And that’s solely for the interruption resistance. Most teams these days run healers anyway. Also the fact that she competes with Diona who also offers shielding, with a little healing and is a better battery.
I see your perspective. I have a fairly new account and only have mona as 5 star. I have c2 gaming built and with mona, bennet c1 and Rosaria, omg Gaming is taking my ass through the game😂 Really love him. Can’t wait to get c6 on that boy.
Prediction 1) XingQiu 2) Bennet 3) Chevreuse 4) XingLing 5) Kuki Shinobou 6) Ficshl/Fischl?? 7) Charlotte 8) Sucrose 9) Layla 10) Beidou 11) maybe Noelle , no one else is coming to the mind rn
funny story i started playing during yelan's first banner: got c2 xingqiu, no yelan stopped playing returned only last december: got c3 xingqiu on march (gitter shop) lantern rite: got c4 xingqiu neuvilette/kazuha banner: got c5 xingqiu , no kazuha no neuvilette furina's banner: 130 pulls still no furina but randomly got xingqiu on standard banner at this point its not my fault why i only have xingqiu and no yelan, no neuvilette, no furina
Hey #Jello, i don't know how much it will impact you, but I truly blessed by this video. I am actually on run of making my 4 stars powerful based on seeing genshin future plan for multiple character built scenario. and i was thinking which 4 Star I should built 1st.... and then you came with this video. OMG, you are awesome brother, thank you a lot.Love you.
I can see Jello still hasn't built his Noelle with her not being on the list. It's looking like she's going to get another buff from natlan with Xilonen being rumoured to be a geo/general support and the 5.0 set essentially being a better archaic petra that works on geos. Shes already strong on top of having some of the best survivability so the upcoming potential buffs are just crazy. Hopefully by then Jello builds up his Noelle.
There are a few characters that could be on this list as well like rosaria, Layla and heizou. I still think this list is probably correct and Noelle doesn't provide as much value as the above. Her cool down is terrible as a shielder and needs a very specific team to work somewhat well as a dps. She is also so extremely c6 dependent and requires either redhorn or serpent spine. She isn't on the same level as a gaming dps since gaming does more damage as a peak and is more flexible with weapons. This is not to say that Noelle is bad but she requires very high level of investment to allow her to be on the same tier as the above characters (any character in the game with enough investment can be good).
Noelle Furina is extremely overhyped. She's essentially a geo downgrade to to Gaming, and as we know on-fielder is very pricey role. Noelle doesn't offer much more than shielding, while sacrificing better element and access to better supports
@@Kokichus 63k DPS on a aoe level is nothing to downplay. Mind you she sheets out 74K ST dps on a with Furina Yelan Kazuha. You're clearly unaware of this and just talking out your ass. Navia Dps sheets out to about 61k on her best teams according to TGS own calcs so you do the math.
Good list. Xingqiu placing that low is surprising but now makes sense considering all the updates to hydro. Top 0-4 are the ones that are irreplaceable by any 5 star for their role but still meta.
Xingqiu is an interesting case for me. For f2p he is hands down the most useful 4 star to have built. Once you get Furina and Yelan, you stop finding reasons to use him, so he doesn’t seem like a must build anymore.
this. i like her as a character but ppl overestimate Xiangling's place as a meta character too much. not only she needs C4 but also 100% want to be played with Bennett as well, the moment u just replace Bennett with any other character she's just a bad character - the same can't be said about other Pyro dpses, or even all other dpses in general.
If you want off-field pyro damage OR frequent pyro application, Xiangling is the only option. If you just want damage period, she's not a requirement to clear endgame. Thoma applies pyro off-field, but with such a long ICD it's only good for burgeon, and he has crappy direct damage. Also requires a normal-attack on-field driver. Dehya, except she's only useful for burning and not even for burgeon due to infrequent skill hits; has low damage. Amber has low damage, extremely sparse pyro application off-field, and you may not even hit the enemy. If you need pyro off-field for damage/vape/melt/frequent elemental reactions, we just don't have another unit, period.
I have 17 4 stars build and those are basicaly the list above + Noelle (early main dps), Beidou (under right circumstances certainly contender for the list), Thoma (great shield option with addition of burgeon trigger), Layla (probably best shield outside of Zhongli) and Lynette (don't ask, cat ears is reason enough, she's solid but I definitely wouldn't put her on a list or consider building for her performance pre c6 where you can use her as dps). I plan to build Rosaria and consider Kujou Sara and Gorou to enable their mono teams. Most other units are servicable but honestly it's hard to recomend with how hard it is to farm everything for properly build unit. PS. Lame to make rules just to break them. It's top 12 so name it that way.
I didn't like XQ's position tbh. You compared him with furina who has a completely different playstyle. Yelan vs XQ is fair but not with furina. Also he is available in shop. So getting his cons with not be much a hassle. Also you dont have much problem with Faruzan being C6 but you immediately evaluated XQ's value on the basis of cons.
He's biased by the Fontaine teams... which really don't want XQ for their best teams. Only Navia wants XQ (or yelan). Every other new on-fielder would rather have other units. If you're still mostly rocking Sumeru or before on-fielders, than yeah XQ is great. But otherwise, he's really not as important anymore. The Furina comparison is there because excluding vape, Furina can also be an off-field hydro applier instead of XQ, and usually is a significant upgrade over him because of her damage buffs. Yes, XQ provides damage & interruption resistance, but that doesn't warrant missing out on 75% team dmg bonus and stronger off-field damage. Genshin is biased towards dealing damage, as killing things faster = you taking less damage anyways.
Agree. XQ and Bennett are the only MUST have's out of all these. Xiangling you will get either way. The others are more niche. XQ, Bennett and Sucrose can slot into any single team and make it really good.
It's so funny seeing my Abyss record where, sure Raiden always has the single big number damage. But Xiangling always has the most kills. She be preparing dinner and cooking everytime 🤣
Can someone explain to people that if youre f2p you have all the 4stars in the game? Im f2p I dont have Beidou,Xinqing, Fishil,Heizou or YaoYao, but somehow C1 amber. Just cuz someone is f2p doesnt mean they have all the 4 stars, it means they dont waste money on pixels.
It's not a waste if the person buying it wants it, also f2p isn't only including new players, some old players are also f2p and because majority of the players are not new and majority of the players are f2p, it's common for f2p's to have most of those 4 stars especially because half of them are in star glitter shop.
If you play for 6 months you would have at least xingqiu, benett or yao yao unless you save your wishes. Some accounts get sayu instead of yao yao for crystalfly protection. I had to save up for fischl but xiangling and lynette carried well for f2p
Genshin players assume everyone has played since 1.0 for some reason. Also they are easier to get. I have most of those characters after playing for 6 months, while f2p & not splurging fates on every banner. Only c0-3 tho
Hey. I just wanted to say that I find this video absolutely amazing! I'm not one to comment very often, but I just couldn't keep it to myself. I love how you analyze the characters by utility, versatility, strength and everything like that. After all, we're going to use them on teams, so even if they're very strong by themselves, sometimes there will be 5* characters that are indeed more suitable in certain cases. I'm very fond of this video and I appreciate the thought put in it. Also, Bennett totally rules!! He is and will always be my favorite 4* character. He's just so adorable. I really don't know what my Childe would be without him and Xiangling! Great job overall, wishing lots of success. 🎉❤✨️
11:22 i agree with XQ competing with other hydros, but in this game you need more Hydro on both sides on the abyss usually to make teams than other elements. So unless you have only 5* hydros on both sides of the abyss, I don't see this to be a problem
Furina being uswd over xingqiu is fair, but if i use yelan, then its usually with xingqiu, maybe im too 4 star brained, but i like xingqiu much more than yelan, i feel like getting yelans ult up is more of a hassle than sac sword xingqiu if its solo hydro. (Also as a xiao/xiangling main, having sucrose below faeuzan feels like a crime)
I'm glad Charlotte is in the list, she hasn't left my Neuv/Furina team since his release. Ice ticks for Neuv passive and huge instant heal to activate Furina makes her a great char. Somewhat underrated. To me C6 Charlotte is above many in this list.
Ranking 4 stars based on their value against 5 star counterparts is nuts. 😂 When you rank things, you compare them to each other, not some outside factor. "Ooh, Rosaria doesn't have Ayaka's damage. Number 16." Like tf? Having a better 5-star counterpart doesn't mean the 4-stars behind suddenly becomes better too. That doesn't make a single sense.
@@kingdoom5022No, absolutely not. You have no arguments for this statement either. He's 95% of the time the best in slot for the role he fulfills and it's probably one of if not THE most important one in the game
@@kingdoom5022kuki is only good in hyperbloom and optional is spread and aggravate where as xinqui can be used in so many teams and having the best hydro application in the game
Ye, i easily knew who will be in this list but the order was hard for me but i still think Xingqui over Fischl imo. I've played majority of my time without Fischl and had 0 Problems clearing the Abyss. Hydro is just more usefull than electro off-field and their dmg at low investment is pretty similiar.
Why do you compare Xingqiu to Neuvillette ? Xingqiu is a sub dps with a high single target application and you compare him to a hydro hypercarry aoe with worse hydro application than him. Man, I garantee you Xingqiu is better than Neuvillette by a lot in a team with Arlecchino, Hu Tao, Alhaitham, ... I have Yelan C0 and Xingqui C6, I use Xingqiu more in abyss than Yelan. Her ER issue is just too bad without double hydro. But that's just me I guess.
The ER reqs between c0 Yelan and C6 XQ in most teams is about 25% assuming u use sac sword XQ and Fav yelan. So, its not that bad at all. Also, yelan can get 2 Es on some teams like Arle vape and that makes her ER reqs alot lower too
yeah a 4 star comparable with best characters in the game, has more hydro application then all of them. Has the best element in the game works on bloom, hyperbloom, vaporize, burgeon, tazer, freeze (questionable but still works) and many other teams ( don't remember all of them). Gives damage reduction at c0, reduces hydro res at c2 and becomes even better at c6, is also very easy to build is below than a hyper bloom specific character because it is more f2p which also loves him btw and a character who need electro and pyro specifcally to work but is best at those teams, totally fair for the hydro archon in disguise ( i know jello said that the list can be altered in your own opinon )
Xingqui falling off because of Furina Yelan.. Lets not discuss the fact Raiden triggers hyperbloom almost twice as quickly as Kuki, and thats the ONLY thing Kuki does.
New to the game, watched this to get an idea of what to look out for.. dismayed bc I literally don’t have a single one EXCEPT … your #1 lmao. I’m not mad.
sucrose is way clunkier to use, not to mention her buffs are just overall worse than kazuhas or chevreuse. atk and dmg bonus >>>>> elemental mastery. also chevreuse has healing over time and her debuffs do not have any downtime unlike sucrose who needs to be swapped to every ~7 seconds to not lose VV uptime.
Chevruse has literally NEVER left my main team (and since sigewinne only when pyro isn’t ideal) since I got her. Damage buffing aside, she single handedly has kept me alive in almost every situation needed.
Im disappointed you put Kuki so high (who is fully carried by dendro), while downplaying Fischl's damage, utility AND flexibility Also Faru should be higher if you wanna put Chevy and Kuki that high
i mostly agree, but i think the reason he put chev above faruzan is that she works with 2 elements meanwhile faruzan is restricted to anemo. not to mention the pyro and electro DPS are overall stronger than xiao or wanderer
@@viviniciuslol The fact that Faruzan only works with two characters could be left as is (DPS Xianyun, C6 Lynette, DPS Jean, Heizou all work great too) However, it should also be mentioned that Chevreuse only works with two specific ELEMENTS. And her only big teams are currently Raiden hyper-, Arlecchino hyper- and Clorinde hyper-carry. Most other teams have much better alternatives, especially if you don't have a Chevreuse C6, which has only been seen once in the banner. I own 3 Accounts, all AR 60 since Day one. I own Chevreuse C0 on two accounts and I can say, I play her very rarely because she is almost always a downgrade to other Team Setups. The only real exception was against the LvL 100 Tulpa in the Abyss on her release. Hydro Elemental Enemies is where she really slaps at C0.
@@rednaxela4 worth mentioning that arlecchino, raiden and clorinde are some of the top tier dps of the game. nowhere near wanderer or xiao. so it still makes sense
@@viviniciuslol honestly faruzan comps are on-par strength-wise with electro/pyro comps, considering you can add more elements than anemo to help wanderer/xiao(/heizou), whilst chevy necessitates usage of only pyro and electro, making you lose out on potential dendro, hydro (especially furina), geo and cryo buffers
Kuki is not even close to top 3, 4 stars.... she has one team type thats good, but she is not the best in it with many other variations being better. This can not he said for many other 4 stars
My list would be xingqui, bennett, fischl, kuki, xianling, sucrose, yaoyao and beidou. I use some combination of these plus 2-4 5 stars in the abyss on a regular basis. Depends on whats there as to who sits on the bench that rotation. I would probably include faruzan and chevruse in the list...but i dont have faruzan c6 and i dont have chevruse at all so no spot for either of them until ive tried them myself. I would say honerable mentions to Thoma, Noelle and charlotte all of which i use sometimes in the abyss. Noelle is great with aggressive enemies and works well with furina. Thomas burgeon comps and interrupt resist ability make him great for aoe and the multi element shield boss that comes up in abyss. Also great for normal spammers who need inerrupt resist. Charlotte is great for quickly freezing enemies in place just long enough to do the rest of your set up so you can get neuvilettes charge attack started, then you can kite away easily once theyve unfrozen, makes shieldless c0 neuvilette more comfy to play, even with more agressive enemies.
"only requiring C2 for Kuki makes her much more accessible" me, with only just barely a C0 Kuki, while I literally have nearly every other 4-star at C6 or C5... Thing is, she only ever runs on banners with 5-stars I REALLY don't want (ex, Itto).
I would argue against saying that Kuki even needs any constellation in order to show 95-99% of her potential, since 3s (C2 increase to the duration of her Elemental Skill) is not even the time it takes for Bloom Cores to expire, and you can only squeeze 2 ticks during that time anyways, one of which could be replaced by the first tick of the next Skill, effectively meaning that C2 only gives Kuki a single extra Electro tick every 15 seconds.
Fun fact, I got my first xingqiu when pulling for Yelan in 3.4. I can confirm that it’s easier to get a single copy of Xingqiu than it is to get Yelan, because I had been playing for almost about 8 months at that point, won the 50/50 on Yelan and her weapon, and also a couple copies of Xingqiu. I’m also going to try and pull for c1 Yelan in a couple hours, so I’ll edit this comment to update and see how that goes. (Honestly I either want c1 or Tighnari. I don’t have Tighnari yet)
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Hoyoverse when they realise they have to make the Pyro Archon stronger then Bennet and Xianling
to be fair, we also wondered how Hoyo was gonna make Furina stronger than Xingqiu and Yelan, and turns out it's by making her fill out an entirely different niche, so it could be done
@@readmuvluv I mean xingqiu is only a sub DPS but Bennet is a buffer and healer and xianling is a sub DPS with no ICD on vape rxn so if they make pyro archon stronger then both of these(Which they will) then she automatically becomes a must pull
Imagine, you just merge the two characters into one
@@readmuvluvYes but the only niche I can see other than just power creeping someone else is an elemental skill off field dps
Imagine …..
C0 pyro archon
= C6 Bennett + C6 XL + Dehya
I find it really funny that Bennett falling off means only being mandatory for 80% of the teams in the game instead of 100% of them
Some teams don't need him ???? ❌
Bennett don't need those team✅ 🗿😎
bennett is a nerd
@@max-jj1ey bouken da bouken
@@max-jj1ey since when 🚮
Bennett is mid at best TBH.
@@DamianHunter-nx2gmYOUR bennett is mid at best
Bennett Kaeya can 2 man the entire game dude
I think we can all guess the top 3
N A T I O N A L
Bennett kuki xq
It should be be Bennett xianling kuki fischl , xingqiu 5th or 6th
@@kingdoom5022 respectfully, horrible take
obvs fischl number 1
The irony that Bennett has no friends in his adventure team. Yet basically EVERY TEAM is a Benny's Adventure team is RIDICULOUS.
unlucky boi be OPAF.
Genshin did this on purpose I'm sure of it lmao
Not only that he's unlucky but brining him to abyss is no less than a bringing a lucky charm, and he's most unluckiest lucky person ever, he encounteres deaths but always comes out alive and bro was found in like literal land of dead its crazy how did he even survive. I hope Genshin makes explores his story soon along with the Witches.
@@eraba661Unluckiest Lucky guy ...like Adventurine?
Benny is this strong BECAUSE he has no friends in his adventure team. He had to be a healer, a buffer and a damage dealer all by himself
My favorite characters to use with bennett are Nilou, Neuvillette, Alhaitham, Itto, Noelle, Yelan, and Furina /s
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Bennett. I try to play Chevreuse, my Bennett buffs more damage. I try to play Sucrose, my Bennett buffs more damage. I try to play Furina, my Bennett buffs more damage without losing HP. I want to play Diluc, his best team has Bennett. I want to play Wriothesley, his best team has Bennett. I want to play Raiden, Childe, they both want Bennett. Even Ayaka's best boss team needs Bennett.
He grabs me by the throat. I fish for him. I cook for him. I give him the pipe. He isn't satisfied. I pull for Favonius Sword. "I don't need this much ER" He tells me. "Give me more base attack." He grabs Paimon and forces me to throw her into the enemies. "You just need to funnel me more. I can buff more damage with Mistsplitter."
I can't pull for Mistsplitter, I don't have enough primogems. He grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." He grabs his backpack. He says "BROKEN DA BROKEN!" There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, 2s CD skill and 1000 attack buff circle impact. What a cruel world.
もう我慢できない。ベネットにはうんざり。シェヴルーズをプレイしようとすると、ベネットがダメージをアップする。スクロースをプレイしようとすると、ベネットがダメージをアップする。フーリナをプレイしようとすると、ベネットがHPを失わずにダメージをアップする。ディルックをプレイしたいが、彼の最高のチームにはベネットがいる。リオスリーをプレイしたいが、彼の最高のチームにはベネットがいる。ライデン、チャイルドをプレイしたいが、どちらもベネットが欲しい。アヤカの最高のボスチームでさえベネットが必要だ。
彼は私の喉をつかむ。私は彼のために魚を釣る。料理をする。パイプを渡す。彼は満足しない。私はファヴォニウス ソードを引っ張る。「こんなにERは要らない」彼は私に言う。「もっと基本攻撃をくれ」彼はパイモンをつかみ、彼女を敵の中に投げ込むように私に強いる。「もっと私を誘導すればいい。ミストスプリッターでもっとダメージをアップできる」
ミストスプリッターは引けない。原石が足りない。彼は私のクレジットカードを掴んだ。断られた。「これで終わりか」。彼はバックパックを掴んだ。「壊れた、壊れた！」と言った。彼の目には悲しみの兆しはない。純粋で、2秒CDのスキルと1000攻撃バフサークルインパクトだけ。なんて残酷な世界なんだろう。
This is art
@@FormerEmiliaBestWifiI need to copy this and reply to a Japanese video 🤣🤣🤣
@@faerieinwonderlandplease don't. It's a weeb that used google translate. the translation isn't correct at all
@@CarriB65 yeah I am a weeb yes but I know Japanese. However do you think I have the time to translate each sentences correctly for just a meme? Lol
Sucrose being below Faruzan whos only real role is anemo hyper carry is straight up criminal dude.
Dont even get me started on Xingqiu being lower than Xiangling, Kuki and Fischl man.
Xingqiu and Sucrose have way more utillity and overall things to offer than Faruzan who only realistically buffs 2 characters, Kuki who is amazing in hyperbloom but terrible everywhere else, Xiangling and Fischl who at the end of the day, is only real purposes is damage.
And yes, Chevruse is amazing, but number 1? No. Just no.
Was just about to comment here about Sucrose, but especially Xingqiu.
Feel like he got it wrong, it's not that Xingqiu is competing with the best hydro units in the game- they are competing with him.
C6 Sucrose is awesome, I like her better than Kazuha because she doesn't clutter up my screen with a sh*tton of leaves that make it hard for me to see anything (and also weird out my eyes). Plus it's fun watching her flip enemies like she's tossing pizza dough.
Side thought -- with hyperbloom being one of the most powerful DPS sources in the game, Kuki becomes a must for abyss almost every floor. And she has healing?? That scales off the EM?? Totally broken, opens up the whole rest of your team for your bloom reaction and damage. You don't have to build crit on her, so every player can get her max damage just by farming enough elemental mastery artifacts. And if you can get them on the Paradise Lost set, she goes crazy. She's not a direct dps, but that's honestly BETTER news because you don't have to try and get a good enough weapon (craftable iron sting is great) and spend thousands of resin and artifact exp on trying to roll crit rate and dmg...
Don't get me wrong, Xiangling is amazing and fits in nearly every team. So she still ranks above Kuki for flexibility and staying power. But Kuki is UP there =D
when Xingqiu is both in Starglitter shop and Lantern Rite, i don't think it's unrealistic to say that every account will eventually get a C6 Xingqiu. and if they keep making Abyss floors with elemental checks like the one we just got, i don't think i'll be benching him any time soon.
I've been a XQ defender, but lately I struggle to find use for him or Yelan on my teams.
Most Fontaine on-fielders don't want xq/yelan on their best teams. If you're playing pre-4.0 on-fielders or slightly worse teams he works, but anyone except Navia would easily prefer other options.
@@Kmn483Simple, a beginner doesn't have Yelan, she reruns extremely rarely and is a side grade to XQ.
End game accounts that don't have 5 star restrictions obviously start using less 4* units.
@@planetary-rendez-vous This isn't a beginner tier list. If it were, Barbara and Noelle would be on here. Razor would be a likely candidate as well. You spend very little time as a beginner, compared to any other period as a genshin player.
Also, I was grouping xq with yelan since they're both pretty interchangeable. I'm considering XQ's placement as if he were himself or yelan, rather than fighting for a spot in the meta against her.
The real competition comes from Furina, which will rerun yearly and every play should get before they try to 36-star the abyss. Because of Furina, XQ or Yelan both lose a spot on many teams.
@@Kmn483 in that case XQ still has a place as the best hydro applier when you need him but that revolves to mostly vape team...
@@planetary-rendez-vous Xinqiu doesn’t reach his max potential till C6 and that con is what’s being considered in this video.
It would be much more reasonable to assume a beginner has a C0 Yelan than a C6 XQ especially considering Yelan is still one of the most owned 5 stars
Not gonna lie, I had to check the time stamps again when Bennet was not #1. But there he was the real god of teyvat
Lmao I'm checking the comments cause he didn't mention Benny at #1😂
I would have turned the Xingqiu argument around: He is the reason why I still haven't pulled for Yelan (she's simply one of the chars I like the least, don't come for me) and for a 4star being so good that you don't really need to pull for one of the best 5stars in the game is just on a level of it's own. Also, I somewhat see the negative point "you need him C6" as irrelevant, because some made it into this list despite the C6 being so important (Gaming, Faruzan...) and they are by far not as versatile when it comes to team building as Xingqiu. So, imo he's still in a higher position than Kuki and Chevreuse. And I say that despite having the latter built+C6 and Kuki being my fav girl in Genshin.
Yes I agreed with you, but he is actually more versatile then chevreuse but saying he is better then chevreuse is not valid, just think chevreuse can remove kazuha lev cherecter at Pyro electro team which is a huge thing, and at c6 she is crazy
Yes I agreed with you that xingqiu is a broken character but at this point of the game many characters outshine him, but still I think he is better than kuki
Totally fair take
I totally agree with you. I had xingqiu since the early game. He's so good that he never left my team till I got Furina. I still use her with Arlechino and Neuv when on co-op for interruption resistance. He and Hu Tao carried me for a long time and he was at c0 for a long time. Personally, I think he's the best 4 star.
Even Fischl wasn't that great, her dmg without the C6 it's a Joke, compared to Gaming who shy even without that haha
I'm not planning to pull for yelan either, she has such a crusty personality in the story. always running off and super cold, no emotion, very boring. everyone says her and xingqiu are practically interchangeable in team comps so why would I want her
12:13 Xingqiu: I will have Order!
lol
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I wanted to comment that🤣🤣🤣
It honestly sort of looked like he was watching the meteor hit with an expression of, "Well, this is my life now..."
"There are many alternatives to xingqiu"
The alternatives:All 5 stars.
This is a 4star tier list so putting xingqui at 5 becoz hes not as good as neuv furina yelan is kinda unfair.
Same with Fischl. Bro compared her raw power scalings to Yelan and Furina. They don't even have the same element 😭😭
Exactly he literally the only 4 star hydro that actually good the others are…. Barbruh very replaceable;candace niche;and let pretend hydro traveler doesn’t exist….
I don't have xingqui but have furina and will have yelan so I understand him
Xingqui & fischl are ok units at c0 tbh. They need cons to be good.
Especially because Neuvi doesn't have nearly the same role and he's better than Yelan lol
We all know who’s number 1…
The pyro archon, Bennett himself.
Throughout Teyvat and Celestia… he alone is the best 4 star.
Are u the best 4 star because u are Bennett or are u Bennett because u are the best 4 star?
@@a-passerby The strongest support in history (Bennett) Vs the strongest support of today (Furina)
@@akairizs
Strongest support in history is kazuha
Bennett is definitely not the best. Xiangling and Xinqiu are more useful. Bennett's attack is not needed by many people now.
@@AbajirkaXiangling is like not T10 without Bennett his existence
You had me in the first half ngl. I was sitting here like "where benny?!" 😂
The recent Imaginarium cycle showed how expendable Kuki and Faruzan are.
Yes, in ideal situation they are pretty useful, but the moment they step outside their niche their value drops off hard.
Whereas Bennett/Xiangling and Beidou/Fischl were like holy water being hoarded for the key battles.
DPS Faruzan still slaps. She can clear an IT act by herself, especially the ones needing CC.
@@denki2558yeah, faruzan slaps it
Who cares🙄
Go play alhaitam in burning or smth
Nah.
I used Faruzan in the opening rounds with Wanderer, and Kuki downed the Chicken for the extra star.
Bennett can just stay benched forever.
I felt that last sentence 😂
It feels like you threw fischl and xingqiu out of top 3 just to start discusion in comments.
once you watch him for a while you’ll see this is not true and tbh modern top teams don’t care about xq or fischl these days
He's a bit biased by the Fontaine releases, but if you consider them then it's fair.
Look at the units we got in Fontaine and you'll see most of them don't want Fischl or XQ on their best teams.
Fischl is wanted on Chlorinde & Arle (the later only because of Chev), while XQ is wanted on Navia. That's about it.
Sumeru on the other hand was THRIVING off both, with Fischl being on any spread/aggravate team, and XQ (or yelan) being needed for hyperbloom at the time.
But that was a year ago, and Fontaine has introduced powercreep. Sumeru teams are still fine, but by no means dominating like they did before.
@Kmn483 they literally are any worse. Fischl can be used in nearly any team as battery and xingqiu hydro ap + dmg redction with interruption resistance is still top. And yet kuki with her only team being hyperbloom is in top 3.
@MO-zk8qs i can say the same thing about every character and thats just because we have more options than 1/2 years ago. You can throw xingqiu with fischl anywhere as long as you use normal attacks. There is not many teams where you are not doing this.
He literally says its interchangeable in the top 5
I can hear Zajef's scream of anguish when you put Xingqiu at 5 lol.
we do not care
I care 🙂
Was coming to look for this comment lmaooo
@@AngryLad_80i care D:
Zajeff the obnoxious potential pedo , no1 care about him here
im really tired of content creators doing this thing where they have to make content/ranks/whatever and try to pretend like new niche units outdo old ones. xingqiu, benny, fischl, etc have literally handicapped the game from being so good, the only way they could think to get around them is with another version (yelan to xingqiu) or creating things so specific they can't fill (fischl not being able to target bloom seeds with oz) most new characters are not beating them.
i think it also gets into, this sorts of videos never consider that the reason these characters are so good isn't just because of their kits. its also the fact that they are easy to obtain, upgrade, and gear out and that they do so well while being unrestricted. faruzan and chevy are not benny/xingqiu level, because of the nicheness, requirements to function, etc
FUCK YEAH Chevreuse in first place! A lot of people forget she is straight up the best buffer in the game. She gives almost as much damage% as Furina, the second highest attack buff, a 40% res shred on two elements, and has good healing AS WELL AS being able to deal damage at the same time. I only wish her skills scaled on HP because then, my god, she’d be broken OP.
HO? Do u mean hp?
@@SamsTheName-GIindeed
I actually think Faruzan is the best buffer in the game, Chevreuse is a very close second.
Mostly because Faruzans buffs are unconditional and last 22s, plus her buffs are instantaneous, team wide, and no team restrictions. Her buff also don't depend on her stats, so she even can use lvl 0 4 star artifacts as long as you can get to 200% ER
38.9 Dmg% + 30% Res shred + 40% crit dmg + 20% Atk(tenacity set) + off field persistent grouping that frequently staggers enemies is hard to beat.
i agree
not necessarily forgot, but most don't have her C6 (yet)
I don't really understand putting neuvillette in the compression with Xingqiu because unlike yelan and furina neuvillette is just do damage characters and his best teams are the teams that maximize his own damage output instead of his hydro application he might as well be a geo character in that regard
Yeah that’s what I thought because neuvillette is an on fielder
Yeah right? Even though I do have neuv he literally does not replace xingqiu on any of my teams.
One is a hydro onfielder the other is an offielder. The only real competition to xingqiu are yelan and furina (who has much higher damage/amps but in return needs a team wide healer and slower hydro)
Xingqiu in no.5 is wild
Even not c6 xingqiu is still really strong
I've been a XQ defender, but lately I struggle to find use for him or Yelan on my teams.
Most Fontaine on-fielders don't want xq/yelan on their best teams.
Arleccino & Chlorinde would rather Chevruse; Wrio wants melt; Lyney wants shield, swirl, chev or furina;
Only Navia really wants xq/yelan... and it's debatable if they're needed on her best teams with furina, xianyun, bennett, xl, chiori, & zhongli crowding out her slots.
XQ/Yelan is usually now a 3rd option rather than 1st. So if you're playing 4.0+ characters... XQ just isn't worth it.
His one weakness is that he's very replacable. If we take these characters in a vaccum, Xingqiu would be the best one. But that's not how grading these characters work. Opportunity cost is a very real thing.
@@MonkeBrain07 Opportunity cost works in xingqius favor. Why would I pull for Yelan when I already have xingqiu and Furina.
@@D4C_267I understand where your coming from, but she does do more DMG, and you can also use them together, or use one on each side. IDK from my perspective and if I had the opportunity to pull a 2nd Kazuha I would.
@@galactase8578i think sucrose better than kazuha😆
For xingqiu value, just use him against copelius without shield, then swap him for yelan or furina, you will instantly feel the difference, also his hydro application is just the best, I have all of neuvi, furina and yelan but i still use him on double hydro hyperbloom on one half and neuvi hypercarry on the other
Yeah no shit comparing Xingqiu to Neuvi and Furina is stupid af they're not even close to fulfilling the same role
Xinqiu has damage reduction, can deal high damage off field, can generate a lot of particles, super armor, interuption resistance, damage buff, heal, and the most consistent hydro off field applicator in the game (even better than yelan) and you put him in number 5....
-Dmg reduction is useless if u already can survive without it. It only adds a extra layer of comfort but the abyss is dps check not a comfort check
- can deal good off field dmg. Not high. "High" would be something Furina,Yelan,Xiangling or Emilie level of dmg.
-"dmg buff"
Only for other hydro units. This can be useful on a double hydro team with furina or yelan (but yelan + furina is way more broken than that) but otherwise its almost useless since u dont pair him with hydro dps units.
-super armor and interput resistance is basically the same thing and XQ dosnt give full interrupt resist. In hutao teams, the interrupt resist he gives is almost equal to a shield cuz hutao has her own interrupt resist and it stacks.
-"heal"
Be for real here. He dosnt heal. A 6k heal per 20s is not it. Pretty sure even prototype amber is a better "healer" than XQ.
- "most consistent hydro app in the game"
Sure, he has the fastest off field hydro in the game but it dosnt matter since none of the teams need that much hydro app. All the vape carries can vape consistently with Yelan and/or Furinas hydro app. All the best hyperbloom teams (alhaitham quickbloom and cyno quickbloom) uses Furina and Yelan cuz XQ butchers the quicken uptime. Nilou teams are the only team where it really cares about XQs hydro app but even then C6 Candace is better cuz of the AoE hydro app and kokomi is better than both.
XQ is good no doubt but we are at a point where being good at many but best at nothing is less valuable than before and the hydro off fielder role is heavily competitive with Yelan and Furina being better in almost every situation.
He's biased by the Fontaine teams... which really don't want XQ for their best teams.
Only Navia wants XQ (or yelan). Every other new on-fielder would rather have other units.
If you're still mostly rocking Sumeru or before on-fielders, than yeah XQ is great. But otherwise, he's really not as important anymore.
@@deltaspecies1697in some teams xinqiu do the difference, kazutao, bloom and hyperbloom, in some tasers, xinqiu stays giving a lot of things in one character, and belive or not, the hyper armor, heal, and dmg resistance makes the difference in teams without healers
@@lemni_s For VV vape, u can play with Yelan. You will still get vapes on ur CAs even with Yelan.
Bloom doesn't use XQ over kokomi or Candace, but yea, nilou bloom is pretty much the only team that cares about the hydro app, as i mentioned in the og comment Hyperbloom doesn't care either. Why ? Cuz the best hyperbloom teams are Alhaitham quickbloom and Cyno quickbloom Bloom, and both of them prefer Yelan / Furina over XQ. If u want to go for double hydro hyperbloom with nahida as the driver, Yelan + Furina are the best hydro units for that team.
Pretty much every single team these days uses a healer or a shielder. Tasers' best team version is with furina, and that team uses a healer. There are essentially 0 teams in the meta that don't use a healer these days.
@@Kmn483 Considering that the vast majority of characters are pre-Fontaine, I'd say Xingqiu is still hella damn relevant.
Also, Gaming and Xingqiu are inseparable combat besties. Technically Gaming was released during the Fontaine era. Hence, XQ is still very relevant and probably always will be.
What I learned from this video: My teambuilding is heavily restricted by the fact that there's no way to guarantee key constellations for tons of 4*, meanwhile I can guarantee the 5* parts of a team.
Ah, the 4*problem. I've found that I love a lot of the 4* playstyles, but I'm missing so many cons.
Thissss 😩 everybody talks about lantern rite and starglitter as if that’s gonna somehow get all of my 4*’s to C6 lol. It always feels irrelevant to talk about c6 4*’s to me. Like, of course they’re usually super strong. They’re a massive investment to acquire. I’m more interested in who’s really strong below c3.
@@LiterallyJustAnActualPotato Even the ones from the starglitter shop take an eternity if it's a high con you need.
Let's say 5* only reran once a year, in that time you can only guarantee two copies, 3 if they're from Liyue and you need 7 for some.
@@LiterallyJustAnActualPotato C6 4-stars are endgame content, little bonuses you sprinkle through your teams. Although really, it's just C6 faruzan. The others (like Yun Jin, Thoma, Xingqiu, Fischl, etc) are a bonus on top of an already-useful unit. You'd have them built and in rotation anyway.
If you're a Noelle stan, you need C6. But you don't need her to clear endgame, she's just for fun.
C6 gorou is a crit dmg boost, but he's clutch for DEF-scaling units at C0.
C6 Kujou Sara exists. That's it. Unnecessary, clunky to play for buffs, and only a for-funsies investment if you like her.
C6 Freminet and Gaming are nice boosts, but they will always have a lower damage ceiling than a 5-star, so play them at any con if you find their playstyle fun.
Honestly the endgame is easy enough and 5-stars are accessible enough (and hyperbloom exists) that you won't find yourself hurting for lack of a C6.
For me Xingqiu being "comparable" to other viable 5-star equivalents brings his value up, not down. This allows players to get the units they actually need, at least for the beginning portion of account progression. Looking back at 4.0, I chose Lynney over Yelan, skipped Neuvilette to save for Furina, then afterwards I had enough currency leftover to get Navia (my favorite character that I was originally going to skip). Sure it's anecdotal, but you don't get bonus rewards for speedrunning Abyss either, not to mention player skill differences, etc. His "constellation issue" is also overexaggerated because he's in the starglitter shop. I'm biased towards waterboy, but I do think my account would be in much worse shape if he wasn't a viable stand-in for these units.
His top:
11: Sharlotte
10: Yao^2
9: Kirara
8: Gaming
7: Sucrose
6: Faruzan
5: Xingqiu
4: Fischl
3: Xiangling
2: Kuki Shinobu
1: Chevreuse
0: Yoinken da Sploinken
his list is absolute bonkers
All Kuki do is enable hyerbloom and some minor heals no way she's above Xingxiu and Xianling 💀
If you're interested in a novel on Genshin 4-stars, read on! Roughly in order:
Bennett
Xiangling
Xingqiu
Fischl
Sucrose
Lynette -- beefy taunt, works on heavy enemies that Sucrose can't crowd control.
Shinobu
Yun Jin (how was she not even on this list??)
Diona -- shields AND heals. If you're a new player, build her right now. Also has a speed buff for overworld.
Layla -- super stronk shield
YaoYao -- nearly always-on heals, some dendro application, and most importantly a burst that heals your entire team SUPER fast, faster than Baizhu at same investment.
Beidou -- off-field electro that buffs normals AND charged, budget raiden for overload. Synergizes with Yanfei.
If the top ranked units and/or hyperbloom aren't cutting it for damage, or you're bored:
Noelle but C6
Gaming as burst DPS, maybe C6 needed idk but then he might rank around Yanfei without the C6 crit dmg buff.
Chongyun burst nuke, and/or with Dragon's Bane/300 EM on-field Xiangling for melt.
Yanfei, can apply pyro with no cooldown if you rotate between normal attacks, charged, skill, burst, and repeat. Works with Xingqiu, Beidou, Kaeya and Rosaria for reverse melt, etc.
Build only for a specific team:
Gorou -- as a support specifically for Noelle C6 or 5-star def-scaling DPS's.
C0 Faruzan -- as a decent buff for anemo, C6 Faruzan as an AMAZING buff and crowd control for anemo. Certainly if you have Xiao and C6 Faruzan, build her now.
critiques of the video:
Maybe I'm using Kirara wrong, but she doesn't even rank.. her shield is weaker than Layla's. Getting her dendro application to land off-field is uncomfortably annoying. YaoYao targets enemies and dendro traveler has a large AoE, the cardamoms are kind of a joke for application with their delayed burst. If you're running her on-field for dendro application in neko state, the only 4-star off-field hydro applicator for hyperbloom is Barbara, which is not a lot of hydro application. Xingqiu + dendro traveler for blooms is far better. If you want some mid shields, good overworld climbing, kinda useless dendro application, and dendro resonance for your team... I guess.
Honorable mention, especially for Natlan: Kachina, but only WITH her new Cinder City artifact set. Literally any 4 pieces, any main stats, unleveled. You just want the set bonus. 40% damage bonus for the element she crystallizes with, works off-field, her elemental skill stays while she's off-field, and the buff lasts decently long. It's a fixed Archaic Petra support. Low investment, get her leveled just enough to not die instantly while throwing her skill down, (and/or leveled HP flower + her DEF polearm), leave all her skills at level 1. And she's very helpful for Natlan exploring, with her fast skill that climbs anything (ANYTHING) and the ability to swap to her while mid-action with another character.
Dishonorable mention: Xinyan. Never build her unless you LOVE her. Shield is trash, and pyro has direct counter-synergy with superconduct, which is a requirement to make physical do enough damage to be even worth trying. It melts the cryo and overloads the electro, who designed this character? Just run Kaeya and Lisa.
No beidou in top 12 is kinda crazy ngl.
Also C6 Noelle is great now with furina
Mood
Putting chevruse and kuki higher than xq is super weird take. Kuki have only one good team - hyperbloom, when xq can be used in many meta teams like hyperbloom, vape, mono hydro and more. Bennet and xq are tier above over other 4star units.
Btw c6 xq > yelan c0
Kuki only has one good team, yes. But that team is very busted, you could clear the game. You only need what? C0-C2, EM, HB teammates.
You could argue that XQ has the better kit, but he needs more investment than Kuki does. What does XQ need? R5 gacha sword(Sacrificial), 200%
@@jetherjohnsim8748 you can run favge on xq lol
@@jetherjohnsim8748xingqiu can use the emblem domain which you probably already have since many burst sub dps and raiden use it. And xingqiu doesnt even require emblem. Big chance is, you already have some 2 piece combinations that xingqiu can use. The investment isnt even that bad. For a long time, i didnt even use sacrificial and r5 isnt even required since his skill hits twice. If you have lost 50/50 to furina(like me) and dont have yelan(i have her but it doesnt matter rn) xingqiu is the only reliable hydro. And xiangling and fischl also need investment and a lot more investment since their main purpose is dmg(and xiangling pretty much requiring bennett to snapshot his atk buff and give her energy) while xingqiu can offer interruption resistance, little healing, and ton of hydro application and decent dmg.Also, hyperbloom team wont even be possible without furina, yelan or kokomi which are all 5 star characters locked behind gacha system
@@jetherjohnsim8748But Kuki needs Xingqiu (or similar 5 star hydros) to even function in the first place so this point is kinda moot.
@catchanka667 almost every character needs someone to function. Are we forgetting the fact that this game is about team building and elemental reactions?
idk why you're mentioning neuvilette and furina while talking about xingqiu, being hydro is the only thing they have in common. furina cant apply enough hydro fro consistent vapes unless you're plunging and even then its iffy. he should only be compared to yelan and i think everyone overestimates yelan coz of her passive, that's quite unfortunate
Yeah people really try to say that xingqui is overrated when he's one of the best unit in the game overall. Comparing furina, yelan, and neuvillete to xingqui is just solidifying the fact that he's busted
Xingqiu's one and only fault: self hydro application.
Yeah the comfort and the application is what make him on par or situationally better then yelan
@@hungnao282It's funny that i can't think of any scenario where he's worse than Yelan even lol but somehow every idiot say she's better than
Getting C6 Xinqiu is a lot more difficult than getting Furina or Yelan, I have both Furina and Yelan but my Xinqiu is still C0.
Gaming doesn't NEED C6. It's definitely appreciated, but at C4 I've had him beat floor 12.
He's decent even at C1. But C6 is a huge powerspike
Putting kuki above fischl, xinqiu, and xiangling is insane
Yeah, agreed
Kuki is still above fischl hyperbloom isn't the same without kuki.
@luffy458 Fischl is way better for aggravate tho, her sub dps ceiling especially with Nahida is high af and r5 stringless makes her an aggravate monster
@@imtransfemmadoka Hyperbloom is still the stronger reaction though. I agree, Fischl makes aggravate great, but hyperbloom is just more important to consider. Especially with Furina in the mix now.
@@Kmn483 no such thing as a "better reaction". hyperbloom is more f2p friendly but falls off hard after you get a decent set with 1k EM for kuki and a c0 nahida. aggravate has a very high ceiling of investment bc every constellation, weapon or artifact improvement you get will increase your DPS way more than getting a piece with 2 more rolls in EM for hyperbloom.
1 bennett
2 xingqui
3 kuki
4 xiagling
5 fishcl
Theese are the GOATS for f2p
So diverse, easy to build yet helpful and flexible
Imo Sucrose is 6th if not higher. If you don't have Kazuha, she's crucial for any serious EM team
@@imRehnzy Truth
All you need:
Xingqui, Bennett, Xiangling, Fischl, Kuki. All are basically 5 stars.
Add on Yao Yao for elemental reactions and healing, along with Sucrose for EM buffing and swirls, and you’ve got a great base of 4 stars. Rosaria is also great value.
Every other 4 star is just a cherry on top, and not really necessary for an account. I say this as someone who has played all of them.
@@K-Ville 5* usually dont need cons or just a c1 for their core functionality. XQ wants c6, XL c4, etc.
@@4ny3ody You're right. At least four of them rotate on the shop every few months, so it's at least feasible that everyone can eventually collect their cons. Kuki's the only one people would have to pull for. I still think all of them are great at C0, except Bennett who needs C1. I stand by my comment that they're up there with 5 stars once they're at C6.
@@K-Ville Most people are not saving up starglitter to buy cons from the shop. They use their starglitter on wishes so they have more chances to pull for characters they want.
@@bookswithike3256 Then that's their mistake. Better to save up for a guaranteed constellation for an OP 4 Star (unless their pity is super close for a busted 5 star like Furina or Neuvilette).
@@K-Ville The vast majority of people who play the game pull for the characters they want, not the most powerful or meta characters.
12:12 XingQiu summoning a meteorite 💀☄️
😂
I'm pleasantly surprised. People are usually deadset on National being the best 4 stars, but its really just not the case anymore. Kuki being at C0 with +0% ER single-handedly enables without a doubt the strongest reaction in the game. Even a new player can abuse it in early game with the free 4 stars, and she stays BiS even into late game. Tbh, I'd also put her above Chevreuse, but she's also somewhat similar in the single-handed enabling of strong comps at all investment levels. National is really strong, but vape isn't the uncontested best reaction anymore and those units also require expensive investment before they become good (except for Bennet, he still arguably deserves at least a top 3 spot).
I agree and don't, Kuki is the strongest most T0 C0 character in the game until you start finally getting great artifacts for whole teams of characters, then she is simply good, id put like 5th in top 5, but im fine with his placement of her because older players like myself with developed accounts don't need Jellos opinions, newer ones do and for that its really important and poignant.
This lies is complete contrast with how he places Chevreuse but its his personal list, and Chevreuse atm does infact get under valued simply because no one has her at C6 let alone gets to experiment with her, so i think hes trying to be ahead of the curve so people know YES she is a big deal, even if others may argue he is overselling it
Excellent take
Benny, Xiangling and Xingqui are my absolute favorites, with Fishl VERY close by
I only have 2 hydro characters built and leveled... Furina and Xingqiu. Only way I could beat the pyro lectors in the current and last spiral abyss floor 12 was by doing a team consisting of Furina, Kazuha, Xingqiu, and an on-field Yaoyao... :skull: Furina EQ, Kazuha EQ, Xingqiu EQ, Yaoyao EQ, then run around doing normal attacks while the blooms do their thing. Rinse and repeat. By no means did I 3-star floor 12, but a win is a win lol. Yaoyao is great
As soon as you said Fischl #4 I was like... wait a minute... there's not enough spots left above. Thought for sure you forgot either Kuki or Chevreuse but when I saw her at #1 I was like oh, "Benny's a 6 star" coming right up 😂 I think I agree with your placements, the way you explained it. The only thing I would add is that Kuki actually has 100% uptime at c2+ but it requires her to be able to swap in every 15 sec. That's usually not a problem in pure hyperbloom teams but can sometimes be an issue in Alhaitham quick bloom and a few others.
Same here! I knew he'd have Chevreuse and Kuki up there with the power 5, and was squinting at the last few placements when I realized he had to be either leaving someone out or doing something like a tie for first place.
Tricked us by saying Top 11 and starting at number 10 because we’re used to Top 10 tier lists 😂
My personal:
1. Bennett
2. Xiangling
3. Xingqiu
4. Kuki
And honestly I don't tend to use anyone else of 4* that much, maybe occasionally Beidou & Fischl and Kaeya.
fair take though id give fischl the fourth spot over kuki, personally speaking.
Kuki is good in exactly ONE team archetype lmao, she falls off tremendously in anything other than hyperbloom
But hyperbloom is broken enough AND low investment/f2p friendly enough that it justifies it.
Only having one team is sadly no argument when said team is busted.
I'd rather have Kuki or Childe who are only good in one team that's at least super busted than Cyno or Wriothesley who have 20+ different teams that all are equally trash
@@TheoKratos-nr1vp stop with the wrio disrespect man hes fine 😭
Shes still pretty great as a healer on tenacity, thats what ive used her as since i got her since i dont have a reason to use hyperbloom anyways
Lmfao wrio is great idk what weed you smoking@@TheoKratos-nr1vp
I don’t think Bennett is THAT cringe to play. The magu kenki with Bennett is pretty cringe though. That MF is allergic to bennetts circle lmao. I just got Benny C6 this morning. Can’t wait for Xianyun rerun to try out the new team archetypes I’ll be able to run once I have her.
My own personal top 5:
1. Bennett
2. Xingqiu
3. Fischl = Xiangling
4. Chevreuse = Shinobu
5. Sucrose
faruzan over sucrose and kuki over fischl is crazy
Great list like always 🎉
The Jello chevruse bias is insane once again 😂
I would also give credit to the 3 shielders as well. Thoma, Layla, and Diona. Thoma honestly is like Kuki but just unlucky that Hyperbloom is better than Burgeon, Layla is your budget Zhongli if Thoma isn't build to be a shielder, and Diona which she offers all your defensive needs like Healing and Shielding.
the only issue i have with this whole list is i think Layla should be on this list. as someone who doesn't have zhongli, she's utterly invaluable in a lot of teams. and her c6 makes her dps and cryo application solid (or at least not embarrassing) and combined with her low ER requirements and her silly strong shield just make her the copium zhongli. Would i use her anywhere near as much if i had daddy geo? nope. but lacking him there really is no better alternative when you need a shield. is she better all round then kirara or yaoyao? meh... again i think it all depends on daddy geo. if you have him i doubt layla gets a lot of playtime. if you don't layla becomes one of the more useful 4* you'll have.
In what teams to you use her? I'm guessing maybe with Pyro carries? I don't own Zhongli and I never use Layla I just prefer Kirara
Disagree. Layla shouldn’t be on this list at all. Shielders in general have fallen off immensely. Zhongli is an exception because of the resistance shred he gives and the fact that he can hold 4p archaic petra.
I can’t really think of any team other than maybe freeze Ganyu or Yoimiya variants where Layla would be the first choice 4-star option. And that’s solely for the interruption resistance. Most teams these days run healers anyway. Also the fact that she competes with Diona who also offers shielding, with a little healing and is a better battery.
I see your perspective.
I have a fairly new account and only have mona as 5 star. I have c2 gaming built and with mona, bennet c1 and Rosaria, omg Gaming is taking my ass through the game😂
Really love him. Can’t wait to get c6 on that boy.
Prediction
1) XingQiu
2) Bennet
3) Chevreuse
4) XingLing
5) Kuki Shinobou
6) Ficshl/Fischl??
7) Charlotte
8) Sucrose
9) Layla
10) Beidou
11) maybe Noelle , no one else is coming to the mind rn
So how to u feel about the official ranking
@@Dont_at_me nothing
Chevreuse on 3 when she shouldn't even be in the top 10 is crazy
@@TheoKratos-nr1vp I thought jello would rate her higher, if you ask me personally I only use Xq , Kuki , Bennet , Barbara and no other 4*
@@user_7727XkdtEven my soul felt hurt when he didn't put Xq in the top 3. He literally carried me through this game since I started playing.
I was waiting to see kuki and honestly thought you weren’t gonna include her, but I so agree she’s really great.
Faruzan above Sucrose is diabolical
funny story
i started playing during yelan's first banner: got c2 xingqiu, no yelan
stopped playing returned only last december: got c3 xingqiu on march (gitter shop)
lantern rite: got c4 xingqiu
neuvilette/kazuha banner: got c5 xingqiu , no kazuha no neuvilette
furina's banner: 130 pulls still no furina but randomly got xingqiu on standard banner
at this point its not my fault why i only have xingqiu and no yelan, no neuvilette, no furina
I would say Charlotte is the best last slot for C1 Neuvi Teams that want a 3rd reaction of his passive
Especially because Furina wants healing and Fishl can't provide that
Prototype amber lisa better. Defense shred on top
@@james-bx4wragreed. U can also put healing circlet for more heals
Zhongli Lisa are both better
@@james-bx4writ wont be enough teamwide healing to undo furina drain
Hey #Jello, i don't know how much it will impact you, but I truly blessed by this video.
I am actually on run of making my 4 stars powerful based on seeing genshin future plan for multiple character built scenario.
and i was thinking which 4 Star I should built 1st.... and then you came with this video.
OMG, you are awesome brother, thank you a lot.Love you.
I can see Jello still hasn't built his Noelle with her not being on the list. It's looking like she's going to get another buff from natlan with Xilonen being rumoured to be a geo/general support and the 5.0 set essentially being a better archaic petra that works on geos. Shes already strong on top of having some of the best survivability so the upcoming potential buffs are just crazy. Hopefully by then Jello builds up his Noelle.
There are a few characters that could be on this list as well like rosaria, Layla and heizou. I still think this list is probably correct and Noelle doesn't provide as much value as the above. Her cool down is terrible as a shielder and needs a very specific team to work somewhat well as a dps. She is also so extremely c6 dependent and requires either redhorn or serpent spine. She isn't on the same level as a gaming dps since gaming does more damage as a peak and is more flexible with weapons. This is not to say that Noelle is bad but she requires very high level of investment to allow her to be on the same tier as the above characters (any character in the game with enough investment can be good).
Noelle Furina is extremely overhyped. She's essentially a geo downgrade to to Gaming, and as we know on-fielder is very pricey role. Noelle doesn't offer much more than shielding, while sacrificing better element and access to better supports
Noelle is clunky af. And if xilonen buffs geo, navia & itto will have better values than noelle.
@@Kokichus 63k DPS on a aoe level is nothing to downplay. Mind you she sheets out 74K ST dps on a with Furina Yelan Kazuha. You're clearly unaware of this and just talking out your ass. Navia Dps sheets out to about 61k on her best teams according to TGS own calcs so you do the math.
@@Yelan-n8d Itto is well below Noelle in damage right now, Navias biggest pro is front loading damage but sustained damage goes to Noelle.
Good list. Xingqiu placing that low is surprising but now makes sense considering all the updates to hydro. Top 0-4 are the ones that are irreplaceable by any 5 star for their role but still meta.
I thought we're only talking about 4 stars?
What a miracle! I have Kirara c3 and I haven't done much of the event to get her extra copy so I can utilize her more now😊
Why would you compare the 4 stars to 5 stars in a 4 star tier list 😂
Xingqiu is an interesting case for me. For f2p he is hands down the most useful 4 star to have built. Once you get Furina and Yelan, you stop finding reasons to use him, so he doesn’t seem like a must build anymore.
The only one who's overrated AF is Xiangling imo. She needs C4 to be viable. And will be powercrept the moment Puro archon is out.
this. i like her as a character but ppl overestimate Xiangling's place as a meta character too much. not only she needs C4 but also 100% want to be played with Bennett as well, the moment u just replace Bennett with any other character she's just a bad character - the same can't be said about other Pyro dpses, or even all other dpses in general.
If you want off-field pyro damage OR frequent pyro application, Xiangling is the only option. If you just want damage period, she's not a requirement to clear endgame. Thoma applies pyro off-field, but with such a long ICD it's only good for burgeon, and he has crappy direct damage. Also requires a normal-attack on-field driver. Dehya, except she's only useful for burning and not even for burgeon due to infrequent skill hits; has low damage. Amber has low damage, extremely sparse pyro application off-field, and you may not even hit the enemy.
If you need pyro off-field for damage/vape/melt/frequent elemental reactions, we just don't have another unit, period.
I have 17 4 stars build and those are basicaly the list above + Noelle (early main dps), Beidou (under right circumstances certainly contender for the list), Thoma (great shield option with addition of burgeon trigger), Layla (probably best shield outside of Zhongli) and Lynette (don't ask, cat ears is reason enough, she's solid but I definitely wouldn't put her on a list or consider building for her performance pre c6 where you can use her as dps). I plan to build Rosaria and consider Kujou Sara and Gorou to enable their mono teams. Most other units are servicable but honestly it's hard to recomend with how hard it is to farm everything for properly build unit.
PS. Lame to make rules just to break them. It's top 12 so name it that way.
Bennett is #1 for sure
What I would include in a top 10 in no particular order: Benny, Xiangling, Xingqiu, Fischl, Kuki, Sucrose, Chevy, Gaming, Yaoyao, Layla
Yeah. I think you overcooked here.
Yeah, but he burned the food into coal
I didn't like XQ's position tbh. You compared him with furina who has a completely different playstyle. Yelan vs XQ is fair but not with furina. Also he is available in shop. So getting his cons with not be much a hassle. Also you dont have much problem with Faruzan being C6 but you immediately evaluated XQ's value on the basis of cons.
He's biased by the Fontaine teams... which really don't want XQ for their best teams.
Only Navia wants XQ (or yelan). Every other new on-fielder would rather have other units.
If you're still mostly rocking Sumeru or before on-fielders, than yeah XQ is great. But otherwise, he's really not as important anymore.
The Furina comparison is there because excluding vape, Furina can also be an off-field hydro applier instead of XQ, and usually is a significant upgrade over him because of her damage buffs. Yes, XQ provides damage & interruption resistance, but that doesn't warrant missing out on 75% team dmg bonus and stronger off-field damage. Genshin is biased towards dealing damage, as killing things faster = you taking less damage anyways.
Agree. XQ and Bennett are the only MUST have's out of all these. Xiangling you will get either way. The others are more niche. XQ, Bennett and Sucrose can slot into any single team and make it really good.
It's so funny seeing my Abyss record where, sure Raiden always has the single big number damage. But Xiangling always has the most kills. She be preparing dinner and cooking everytime 🤣
Can someone explain to people that if youre f2p you have all the 4stars in the game? Im f2p I dont have Beidou,Xinqing, Fishil,Heizou or YaoYao, but somehow C1 amber. Just cuz someone is f2p doesnt mean they have all the 4 stars, it means they dont waste money on pixels.
You can get fischl/xiangling from store. I bought both of them this month from shop as a f2p
Usually if you are a 1.0 player, you will have most of the mondstat and liyue 4 stars to be c6.
It's not a waste if the person buying it wants it, also f2p isn't only including new players, some old players are also f2p and because majority of the players are not new and majority of the players are f2p, it's common for f2p's to have most of those 4 stars especially because half of them are in star glitter shop.
If you play for 6 months you would have at least xingqiu, benett or yao yao unless you save your wishes. Some accounts get sayu instead of yao yao for crystalfly protection. I had to save up for fischl but xiangling and lynette carried well for f2p
Genshin players assume everyone has played since 1.0 for some reason. Also they are easier to get. I have most of those characters after playing for 6 months, while f2p & not splurging fates on every banner. Only c0-3 tho
Hey. I just wanted to say that I find this video absolutely amazing! I'm not one to comment very often, but I just couldn't keep it to myself.
I love how you analyze the characters by utility, versatility, strength and everything like that. After all, we're going to use them on teams, so even if they're very strong by themselves, sometimes there will be 5* characters that are indeed more suitable in certain cases. I'm very fond of this video and I appreciate the thought put in it.
Also, Bennett totally rules!! He is and will always be my favorite 4* character. He's just so adorable. I really don't know what my Childe would be without him and Xiangling! Great job overall, wishing lots of success. 🎉❤✨️
How the hell did we get 11
Because he's a charlotte simp
charlotte faru c6 gaming c6 sneak
@@juggernaut6666I don’t blame him
11:22 i agree with XQ competing with other hydros, but in this game you need more Hydro on both sides on the abyss usually to make teams than other elements. So unless you have only 5* hydros on both sides of the abyss, I don't see this to be a problem
Furina being uswd over xingqiu is fair, but if i use yelan, then its usually with xingqiu, maybe im too 4 star brained, but i like xingqiu much more than yelan, i feel like getting yelans ult up is more of a hassle than sac sword xingqiu if its solo hydro. (Also as a xiao/xiangling main, having sucrose below faeuzan feels like a crime)
I'm glad Charlotte is in the list, she hasn't left my Neuv/Furina team since his release. Ice ticks for Neuv passive and huge instant heal to activate Furina makes her a great char. Somewhat underrated. To me C6 Charlotte is above many in this list.
Charlotte sneaking her way in
Nope, she's kinda niche but legitimately very good.
Ranking 4 stars based on their value against 5 star counterparts is nuts. 😂 When you rank things, you compare them to each other, not some outside factor. "Ooh, Rosaria doesn't have Ayaka's damage. Number 16." Like tf? Having a better 5-star counterpart doesn't mean the 4-stars behind suddenly becomes better too. That doesn't make a single sense.
Xingqiu at #5 is cursed lol
I keep him in top 3 with benny xiangling and him
No its not , Bennett xianling kuki fischl and maybe even cheveruse are all better
@@Daddy_Of_soraML no Xiangling is 4th maybe even 5th behind Kuki and Fischl 3rd she's too reliant on Bennett
@@kingdoom5022No, absolutely not. You have no arguments for this statement either. He's 95% of the time the best in slot for the role he fulfills and it's probably one of if not THE most important one in the game
@@kingdoom5022kuki is only good in hyperbloom and optional is spread and aggravate where as xinqui can be used in so many teams and having the best hydro application in the game
this is based tier list, im so glad i grab one chev during her debut, even at c0 she is so good for my overload clorinde.
Literally just checked if you posted a new video 😅
My morning is made!
I was super excited to see Chevreuse so high up! I use her in my main team with Nahida, Xiao, and Furina as a burning/burgeon team :]
All I wish is for the pyro archon to combine bennet and xiangling so that I never have to use them again.
Without circle impact obviously...
It will be too strong. I mean, I have some characters who will benefit a lot, but I doubt they do something like that.
Ye, i easily knew who will be in this list but the order was hard for me but i still think Xingqui over Fischl imo. I've played majority of my time without Fischl and had 0 Problems clearing the Abyss. Hydro is just more usefull than electro off-field and their dmg at low investment is pretty similiar.
I tried bringing home babygirl Kaveh and ended up with C4 Kirara... 🙃
Great video, thoughts well explained and rankings are justified.
Just thought 11 characters was weird for a video title haha.
Why do you compare Xingqiu to Neuvillette ?
Xingqiu is a sub dps with a high single target application and you compare him to a hydro hypercarry aoe with worse hydro application than him.
Man, I garantee you Xingqiu is better than Neuvillette by a lot in a team with Arlecchino, Hu Tao, Alhaitham, ...
I have Yelan C0 and Xingqui C6, I use Xingqiu more in abyss than Yelan. Her ER issue is just too bad without double hydro.
But that's just me I guess.
No it's not just you. Xingqiu is simply better than Yelan
The ER reqs between c0 Yelan and C6 XQ in most teams is about 25% assuming u use sac sword XQ and Fav yelan. So, its not that bad at all. Also, yelan can get 2 Es on some teams like Arle vape and that makes her ER reqs alot lower too
12:14 xingqui watching zhonglis meteor coming down 😅😅
yeah a 4 star comparable with best characters in the game, has more hydro application then all of them. Has the best element in the game works on bloom, hyperbloom, vaporize, burgeon, tazer, freeze (questionable but still works) and many other teams ( don't remember all of them). Gives damage reduction at c0, reduces hydro res at c2 and becomes even better at c6, is also very easy to build is below than a hyper bloom specific character because it is more f2p which also loves him btw and a character who need electro and pyro specifcally to work but is best at those teams, totally fair for the hydro archon in disguise
( i know jello said that the list can be altered in your own opinon )
12:14 “look it’s a meteor” ahh xinqiu
Again biased with kuki... Your love for her tends to make the tier lists that include her unbearable 😅
Exactly my thoughts. He lowered Xingqiu coz "other hydro exist". But EM Raiden, c6 Dori, EM Razor etc exist too.
Xingqui falling off because of Furina Yelan.. Lets not discuss the fact Raiden triggers hyperbloom almost twice as quickly as Kuki, and thats the ONLY thing Kuki does.
New to the game, watched this to get an idea of what to look out for.. dismayed bc I literally don’t have a single one EXCEPT … your #1 lmao.
I’m not mad.
Sucrose: 4 star kazuha - number 7
Chevreuse: 4 star kazuha, but doesnt work with most of the genshin roster - number 1
sucrose is way clunkier to use, not to mention her buffs are just overall worse than kazuhas or chevreuse. atk and dmg bonus >>>>> elemental mastery.
also chevreuse has healing over time and her debuffs do not have any downtime unlike sucrose who needs to be swapped to every ~7 seconds to not lose VV uptime.
Chevruse c6 offers an average +21% total team dps over Sucrose, while also providing energy and healing.
That's why.
Chevruse has literally NEVER left my main team (and since sigewinne only when pyro isn’t ideal) since I got her. Damage buffing aside, she single handedly has kept me alive in almost every situation needed.
Im disappointed you put Kuki so high (who is fully carried by dendro), while downplaying Fischl's damage, utility AND flexibility
Also Faru should be higher if you wanna put Chevy and Kuki that high
i mostly agree, but i think the reason he put chev above faruzan is that she works with 2 elements meanwhile faruzan is restricted to anemo. not to mention the pyro and electro DPS are overall stronger than xiao or wanderer
@@viviniciuslol The fact that Faruzan only works with two characters could be left as is (DPS Xianyun, C6 Lynette, DPS Jean, Heizou all work great too)
However, it should also be mentioned that Chevreuse only works with two specific ELEMENTS. And her only big teams are currently Raiden hyper-, Arlecchino hyper- and Clorinde hyper-carry. Most other teams have much better alternatives, especially if you don't have a Chevreuse C6, which has only been seen once in the banner.
I own 3 Accounts, all AR 60 since Day one. I own Chevreuse C0 on two accounts and I can say, I play her very rarely because she is almost always a downgrade to other Team Setups. The only real exception was against the LvL 100 Tulpa in the Abyss on her release. Hydro Elemental Enemies is where she really slaps at C0.
@@rednaxela4 worth mentioning that arlecchino, raiden and clorinde are some of the top tier dps of the game. nowhere near wanderer or xiao. so it still makes sense
@@viviniciuslol honestly faruzan comps are on-par strength-wise with electro/pyro comps, considering you can add more elements than anemo to help wanderer/xiao(/heizou), whilst chevy necessitates usage of only pyro and electro, making you lose out on potential dendro, hydro (especially furina), geo and cryo buffers
@@viviniciuslol overload raiden and clorinde are on par, if not worse than xiao/wanderer (shieldless) hypercarry
Benny Xingqiu Kuki Xiangling the only ones that matter
Kuki is not even close to top 3, 4 stars.... she has one team type thats good, but she is not the best in it with many other variations being better.
This can not he said for many other 4 stars
Best hyperbloom team in the game is alhaitham quickbloom and it has kuki in it. What are you yapping about?
My list would be xingqui, bennett, fischl, kuki, xianling, sucrose, yaoyao and beidou. I use some combination of these plus 2-4 5 stars in the abyss on a regular basis. Depends on whats there as to who sits on the bench that rotation. I would probably include faruzan and chevruse in the list...but i dont have faruzan c6 and i dont have chevruse at all so no spot for either of them until ive tried them myself. I would say honerable mentions to Thoma, Noelle and charlotte all of which i use sometimes in the abyss. Noelle is great with aggressive enemies and works well with furina. Thomas burgeon comps and interrupt resist ability make him great for aoe and the multi element shield boss that comes up in abyss. Also great for normal spammers who need inerrupt resist. Charlotte is great for quickly freezing enemies in place just long enough to do the rest of your set up so you can get neuvilettes charge attack started, then you can kite away easily once theyve unfrozen, makes shieldless c0 neuvilette more comfy to play, even with more agressive enemies.
Kuki has 1 team type and she is not in best variations of it. Makes no sense why she above other where that is not the case.
Personally, i would rank the best 4*s as,
1. Bennett
2. Fischl
3. Xiangling
4. Sucrose
5. Xinqiu/Kuki
7. Faruzan
8. Chev
9. Gaming
10. Kirara/Yaoyao
11. C6 Kaeya/ Beidou/ Charlotte/ Sethos
"only requiring C2 for Kuki makes her much more accessible"
me, with only just barely a C0 Kuki, while I literally have nearly every other 4-star at C6 or C5...
Thing is, she only ever runs on banners with 5-stars I REALLY don't want (ex, Itto).
I feel your pain: my Kuki is C -1, I still don't have a single copy, I gotta cope by using Raiden as an Hyperbloom trigger.
how could you not want itto, he has one of the best personalities in the game
I would argue against saying that Kuki even needs any constellation in order to show 95-99% of her potential, since 3s (C2 increase to the duration of her Elemental Skill) is not even the time it takes for Bloom Cores to expire, and you can only squeeze 2 ticks during that time anyways, one of which could be replaced by the first tick of the next Skill, effectively meaning that C2 only gives Kuki a single extra Electro tick every 15 seconds.
Fun fact, I got my first xingqiu when pulling for Yelan in 3.4. I can confirm that it’s easier to get a single copy of Xingqiu than it is to get Yelan, because I had been playing for almost about 8 months at that point, won the 50/50 on Yelan and her weapon, and also a couple copies of Xingqiu. I’m also going to try and pull for c1 Yelan in a couple hours, so I’ll edit this comment to update and see how that goes. (Honestly I either want c1 or Tighnari. I don’t have Tighnari yet)