If I could add one thing it would be Zhongli for a comfort honourable mention, and Baizhu for top tier Furina synergy. There’s a ton of great team options for the last section that I missed because I was doing this on the fly. Let me know which are your favourites!
@@sasha_fygon2647ayaka is a decent option if you have charlotte for furina/kazuha team but there’s no real need for cryo specifically at the moment. Genshin isn’t like star rail or other games where you need certain elements.
I plan to get Tartaglia and Kazuha as started in Nov and did get Raiden, Nahida (she has floating dreams) and Xianyun. My question is would Tartaglia, Bennett, Fischl and Kazuha be a good team comp? I have R5 Rust set for Tartaglia as main dps and my Fischl is running Thundering Pulse as sub dps as I've been enjoying physical build for her and then the other 2 supports of course.
Same. I got through so much content after getting him. He was also RIDICULOUSLY easy to build in comparison to almost any other character I got, and the fact that I can self-heal him from the verge of death was great. That, and his character (along with Nahida) is one of my absolute favorites, and because he takes of so much of the damage himself, I can literally put him with any of my other characters that I am in the middle of building/farming friendship with (eg: Sucrose or Layla or Dehya), and it literally does not matter. To be fair, he's C0 so I run grandpa Zhongli with him (or Layla now). That said, am now a bit stuck due to the rumored upcoming banners considering I want both Kazuha and Furina. TT_TT
yup. more interested to see how many of the chars i want show up on the list. my acct will never have kazuha, nor will it have a 5 star limited dendro. Raiden, HuTao, Furina, Cloud Retainer, and Yelan (eventually), yup.
I basically only have a few characters that I really like, so I base my pulls around what makes me play them in more teams or improving their current teams. Simple really.
That kind of focus is admirable, I end up wanting to dps everyone since I haven't quite fallen in love with a character yet. I'll probably main Xiao and/or Kazuha. Good luck on your rolls!
when i first started playing this was what i did! My favorite character at the time was Razor and i maimed him and built him as my do’s despite him basically just being a phys dps. I had a lot more fun building a character I love rather than obsessing over meta
@@Cheddar-Frogmaining Kazuha is the only reason i play this game if i couldn't do it i would quit he's 90% of the fun of this for me at this point i love his moveset
@@Force-Multiplier Got Kazuha, can confirm he absolutely transformed my experience. His crowd control is so satisfying, and as a comment on a video said, "that sword flip has so much rizz."
Tbh if youre minmaxing your account pulling for chacracters with resin efficient domains is so much more important than actual unit strength. For example, if you pull for furina and not pull neuvilette youre wasting all your MH artifact rolls. Pulling for yelan makes you passively be able to build xiangling xinqiu beidou and more so pulling for raiden is a great idea as well. Only nahida i think is an actual must pull as her kit is immune to gameplay powercreep so unless they introduce a super OP dendro character she'll be at the top til the end of the game. My top 5 pulls 1. Nahida 2. Yelan 3. Furina 4. Neuvilette 5. Raiden
He's the only one that actively tries to think of ways to guide and answer beginner's questions unlike other whale bait showcase channel and generic build guides.
@@Erisno1Furina is definitely better than nahida in every possible way of considering meta. You do realise that if you have furina you can use marachuse on almost 90% of the units and it will be equal or sometimes even better than their bis. My top 5 list is: 1) Furina 2)Nahida 3) Yelan 4)Kazuha 5) Xingqiu
Yah she's better than Nahida in offield dendro against respawning opponents. Also her offield would be good if you don't want too much dendro. Like swirl
I agree - I think Yao Yao is criminally underrated. I think she's basically a good substitute for Baizhu, the way Fischl is for Yae Miko. If you have one you really don't need the other.
@@frankxu4795exactly. He's seriously hard to build and requires a specifict team comp to make him strong, I pulled him just for the sake of being able to fly, which is pretty sad how even Xianyun beats that aspect..
Fantastic way of looking at characters!! So important to be able to choose 2 favorites whatever the META and then the CHOOSE 2 section is fabulous as there are many strong characters to choose from and you want some flexibility to still choose the ones you prefer… I love the video, great food for thoughts and helps those who do need some guidance!! As always, thank you!!!
Healer meta with no Baizhu on the "Choose 2" category seems criminal to me. Specially, his element and being a catalyst user makes him even more an obvious pick.
I agree 100% - I'd actually say Neuvillette is #1 for new players who want to be able to plow through all content straight away - overworld, bosses, domains - and have an insane DPS for future Spiral clear - particularly because he can heal himself and it's frustrating as a new player when every fight takes ages and you don't want to waste resources on characters and 3-4* artifacts before AR45. Neuvillette is a one man team that will plow through anything non hydro (but even then I use him on hydro bosses, it just takes longer) and even though he "needs" a shielder, you can avoid it by pulling him back and his skill cooldown is fast enough that if you missed your charge attack, you'll get another one soon. To be able to do that with 1 5* is far more valuable for any player, especially a new one. For me, (started 1 year ago), before Neuvillette, it wasn't until I had Zhongli I could easily plow through every weekly boss - before that I had to use so many diff team comps to compensate but I didn't want to have to build certain characters or spend 10 minutes for each boss - with Zhongli and Neuvillette I can use the exact same team for every weekly boss and plow through them so fast lol so that's something a new player might want to consider I'd say if you want to build two endgame teams at the same time, then Furina and Nahida because you can build one hyperbloom team and one Furina team and just as Nahida will compensate for not having the best options for the rest of the team, Furina will do that for the other team. And both of those units are so flexible (but new players will need to build healer for Furina and potentially a shielder since Nahida is easily knocked around) BUT Barbara is a new player's only option and is not a good enough healer for Furina teams so in that case, I actually think Xianyun is better to get before Nahida particularly because they synergize with each other so well, Xianyun even if not used for plunging has amazing healing and carries VV artifact, so with both of them you can make even a weaker DPS significantly stronger - Dendro is powerful enough that you can get away with dendro MC until next Nahida banner, but Xianyun is both a healer and anemo vv holder so it's like 2 characters in one (she's significantly boosted my Zhongli/Furina/Neuvillette team because she takes the role of Baizu heals and Kazuha VV and puts them into 1 - although I know Kazuha does more but I like having Zhongli for my slight controller lag) But there's only a couple days left for Nahida and Xianyun so it will be months before you can get them again, so I'd say in this case, Furina, Neuvillette and Kazuha are priority Also, It is NOT helpful to tell new players the game is easy so play who you like, because veterans have months worth of artifacts farmed - a selection of decent 4* weapons and multiple cons of good 4* units. It is also not helpful because as a new player with so many characters to choose from, you might like so many that you need another parameter in which to narrow the selection down. New players will level up FAST - I'm already AR45 on my new account and I've only played a month - so my world level jumped faster than I could build characters and its easier for me because I know what to expect, but for an actual new player, leveling faster than you can build characters means that you wan't strong characters now, not the unhelpful advice that any 4* can beat spiral (yeah with a high investment build that takes months/years for cons).
@@loreyxillumina yeah she makes the whole team struggle if the healer is not strong enough, especially against hard hitting bosses. Most healers can work with a bit more effort, but the only guaranteed healer is Barbara and she's not great. Xianyun, Baizhu, Jean are best, then charlotte on Proto Amber and then most other healers can work even if not ideal Furina is just such a huge sub dps that can boost a ton of teams, and her auto targeting is awesome for AOE (not so great when every bonfire in overworld is attacked and drains hp though lol) that I still think she's worth getting even if you don't have the best healer at first - but the healing issue is important to consider!
@@nodrvgs yeah but you can access it as soon as you are allowed to travel outside Mondstadt (after Act 1 of story). The only characters that are an issue are the ones from Inazuma
@@trashbuilds8351 that is true. I’m a returning player so I’m still unfamiliar with the layout of the new regions, thought they were all gonna be quest-locked like inazuma
Oh my! I started playing in October this year, and THIS video is absolutely amazing. We always feel lost because there is a lot of characters that can be played, but your video reaaaally help to focus on the good things Especially for f2p players that have not many primogems to spend!!!
@@ChibiRaiden-ny9qh I tried to pull Hu Tao with the 60 pulls I got at the time, and did not get her (I saw that she was really strong, but now I think that she wouldn't suits me, so I'm glad that I did not get the pulls to get her). So I pulled for Furina and Raiden ! I got Nahida recently too. As a girl, there are not a lot of guy that I would love to play, so I am basically going for girls I love. Raiden was the one I was waiting the most, and now I'm waiting for Clorinde (I hope she's not bad !)
Good choices!! If you need friends to clear content I can help when available since I know clearing some stuff early can be hard xD also from what leaks say clorinde will be good and arlechino as well
@@Folcalors I can easily go to floor 11 and get all the stars. Floor 12 I usually don't try because combat is not my thing. Abysses is really not my thing haha, I know that I need to be mega concentrate to pass it, so I don't really enjoy trying floor 12 @dennism05678 thanks for the help! I do not need help for the moment bu thank you so much for proposing ❤️
I really enjoyed this video, but not just for the headline content. As someone who is about six months into Genshin, your discussion about how new players should have so many wishes during their first year of play really made me think about how important it is to actually do all the world quests and exploration to get those permanent primogems. I always thought about them as something I can get to "eventually" without realizing the cost of that way of thinking: you end up being forced to skip banners that you really shouldn't skip.
I cant argue with the choices jello in terms of progression i agree and yeah the teams you can make with the first 3 should make up the bread and butter of your account absolute fantastic content and extremely helpful to the genshin community not to mention i dont think people realise the amount of effort you put into editing we appreciate you and thats not counting your time aswell
I would put Ayaka there since shes actually versatile: Combat-wise, still decent and good freeze, runs fast for exploration, and second best unlimited water-runner in game.
i love her and would reccomend anyone to pull her, but shes not needed at all, she isnt meta anymore and abyss isnt great for freeze rn, maybe this will change in sneznaya(i know i wrote this wrong), she also requires a lot of investment, that new players might not be willing to do
@@GuruOfTheMoon This has to change in 6.X otherwise cyro dps would not make a whole lot of $$$ and there will be a lot of them for sure. Hoyo did that for Dendro by completely re-working the elemental reactions. Will not surprise me if that happens all over again to add more options for cryo
@@frankxu4795 i think they will do it similar to arlecchino with some special mechanic for every singe character, i would love to see the element in itself get buffed though, i love ganyu and ayaka they are my favorite characters...
don't pull Ayaka, you need to pull 4 5star things to get her decent, at least, it's a hypercarry character that is week in comparison to more f2p options
Never having to wish again? Getting new characters and testing them out is the reason I play the game, and the motto of this channel! 😆I have been playing since forever, so this isn't really for me, but it was a good watch and you make good content. For the most part the same small group of 5 stars are promoted by content creators time and time again understandably, because they are the best. Thankfully, 5 stars aren't as stationary as the top 4 stars most of whom have existed since launch.
This video was EXACTLY what I needed. Simple math on wish count, simple "pick two" list, simple demo of team comps. I feel a lot less nervous pulling for characters I want knowing what characters I need.
His Abyss Usage remains extremely high because he reduces the difficulty down to almost zero. The DPS threshold is low enough that defensive options still have tremendous value.
But he's not a must pull. His kit is old and weak just like most older characters. By that i meant that he doesn't have fast big off field damage,bc his pillers are so slow and have little aoe. He's only good as a shield bot and that's it. I don't like how hoyoverse did Venti and Zhongli so dirty. For now we'll just have to wait till they update their old kits and other old characters kits too. Bc hoyoverse is too damn prideful and greedy to even fix their old lazy work. And y'all better not say that I'm asking for too much,when I'm legit just asking for the bare minimum. Cause i can already see someone screaming at me abt how "OVERPOWERED" the old characters will become💀 Like everything still depends on artifacts luck and teams tf. Even after getting your most wanted character, you'll still be on the grind and suffering to get the best artifacts for them. Which is hella unfair after all the hard work you've done farming primogems and now you're gonna be farming artifacts everyday to get better/decent ones. It's ridiculous that we can't pick an artifact main stat and at least 2 substats that we need. Everything is so damn reliant on luck/RNG,which makes most of us farm for years to finally get some decent level 20 artifacts :
I think its important to add that alot of META discussions will lead you to believe that certain characters are "powercrept" and you shouldn't really bother with them. I'm talking chars like Ayaka, Hu Tao, Raiden Shogun, Cyno, etc. For example, outside of stuff like Raiden as a hyperbloom trigger, she is definitely plenty strong to be used an on-field DPS. They may not be "the best" but they are perfectly viable. Hell, I've 36* the abyss with Diluc and Ayaka thanks to Xianyun and Furina empowering them, you don't *need* to use hyperbloom or Neuvilette if you don't like those playstyles.
Started 250 days ago, and i have yelan,kazuha,nahida,raiden,navia,alhaitam,furina,jean,kuki , and i 36 starred spiral abyss in 4.4 , your videos really helped me!!
I'm f2p too I still haven't 36-star'd the abyss but I'm slowly getting there. Last time I got 34 stars 😅 I hope I get Furina and/or Kazuha to help me easily get there
My goodness I must suck, I’ve played much longer and can’t pass floor 6 for some reason. Also only at WL3 and AR35. 23 70’s 9 are 5*, 7 60 3 are 5*, 51 total characters
I started Genshin around 3.1 update. These were the characters I pulled in order and used to 36 star the abyss for the first time. Nahida, Keqing, Wanderer, Raiden, Xiao, Nilou, Kazuha, and Klee. Nilou bloom really carried my team. I also used Klee hyperburgeon, Klee mono pyro, and Raiden Aggravate. Nahida, Kazuha, and Raiden were the characters I used the most!
Always fun seeing someone that knows what he's talking about!! Only nitpick i have is probably lenyey... Considering he is a bow user (interruption issues) and most of his dmg is locked behind his burst so u need to sacrifice some stats for ER%, not to mention hu tqo deals more pyro dmg than him so i wouldn't say he is a "must pull"
I think you also want to make sure you have one more defensive option aside from Bennett+Xingqiu in case the Abyss is very aggressive on both sides like the rifthounds, Hydro Tulpa, or Fatui operatives. If you “chose two” with poor defense like Yelan, Hu Tao and the abyss was aggressive: Side 1 is fine with Bennet, Xingqiu, Yelan or Hu Tao However side 2 would be trouble, since you’d have Furina in healer mode or Prototype Amber. You could build Barbara or Noelle who are guaranteed, but they were not in that list.
WARNING if you've never played before and just purely want to easily clear abyss, i highly recommend getting nahida and neuvilette. You will never have to sweat again. Alot of these other 5 stars you have to do proper rotations, build them DECENTLY as in 60-70 crit rate and 140 crit dmg which is hard to get for new players (6 months in). Even characters like raiden shogun you will have to sweat and have a hard time clearing abyss with. So if you want to have a fun happy no sweat or pulling your hair out time, then i highly recommend neuvilette and nahida. DISCLAIMER❗️: This is not for players who have player more than 6-8 months who have no trouble clearing abyss with their goated artifacts, c1 5 star charactere or r1 5 star limited banner weapons. Or those who are insanely sweaty and do rotations perfectly. This is for the newbie trash player who cannot clear abyss no matter what and just wanna get the most op easy to play characters.
Get all the archons (Kazuha instead of Venti). Get Nuevilette. Build Bennett XQ Xiangling. You win and then can just pull for your fav chars afterwards.
Started this game 3 weeks ago. Invested A LOT of time into it coz it is extremely fun. Dropped some $$ for the one-time deals. So far I’ve lost 4 out of 4 50/50: 2 on arlechino banner and 2 on weapon banner. I also have Qiqi c1. Feels great
I agree with most of this list. I think kokomi deserves to be in choose 2. I picked her up on her first banner and never had any regret. Mine is now C2 with moonglow and I use her with nahida, raiden, and Xingqiu. Her driving capabilities are so good I think she deserves more credit. she's my tank, healer, and driver that got me to easily 36 star abyss.
This is basically exactly the list I would give to anyone trying to maximize their initial investments/roster, so I would say you did a good job :) My alt account I started in 4.0 is quite literally following this rubric completely (Yelan->Furina->Raiden->Nahida->planned Kazuha) with the only built four stars being the ones listed (and Charlotte for Furina heals) and was able to full clear abyss within three patches.
I was using dendro MC and tighnari and have always seen Nahida been said as a must pull blah blah. I thought Nahida would just increase the overall damage slightly..... But oh my god I pulled for Nahida and she has just increased the damage so many folds So I've realised that Jello is saying the truth when he says who are must pull
An excellent video. While I have been 36 starring the abyss for a while now, it was interesting highlight of the characters I hadn't noticed I was consistently using each run. My dad found this particular video very enlightening as a relatively new player. Definitely a recommended video for new players.
I think the great thing about Navia is thet how cheap her teams are. You can just use Xiangling (free unit and shop), Bennet (shop) and GMC (only agains bosses) or Ninguang (shop and lantern rite) and you can just go to the Abyss. Even this is flexible because if you don't have C4 Xiangling you can use Fischl or even Xingqiu as well. In reality I think she is one of the most beginner friendly on-field damage dealer in the game, maybe even more then Neuvilette, though Neuvilette so good on the base line thet even with a joke team he will be extremly good. It would be interesting to talk about how it is different with other 5*. Like, we know as example thet Xiao and Cyno is very pricey charatcers, but I would like to see how different 5* different in this point.
Thank you for the video!! I am in the process of strengthening my account (and so far it's going REALLY well, I am already so much stronger) and I can testify to Kazuha and Nahida changing your account for real. I can't imagine my account without those two. I don't yet have a Furina, but I am planning to fix that asap. It's also really encouraging to see how many in the choose 2 category I already have and how many I already decided I was going to get (I unexpectedly fell in love with Navia but I lost the 5050 so I am waiting for her rerun, and I NEED Xianyun for my #1 ever of all time Luc but I lost the 5050, soo...) Thank you so much for the video once again and I hope you'll enjoy the rest of your day!
my c0 neuv sign is destroying almost anything (almost bc he cant hurt hydro slime) sometimes I take his book and give it to my dps barbara . . . he still do much dmg
@@simon_roy Do you have Zhongli? I feel like no other shield matches his extended rotations if you burst every rotation. I'm getting c1 just cuz he's glued to Layla and that doesn't feel good. Besides that though, weapons take longer (on avg) than cons. 90-180 wishes to guarantee a con, 240 to guarantee a weapon.
@simon_roy While it a bigger increase, it is hard to understate the teams you get access to with c1. It also increases his synergy with Furina and you can guarantee it with minimal cost compared to the weapon. I would always recommend his c1 over Tome if his weapon banner looks stinky.
Just re-watching this and remembered I got Nahida in one wish. I started playing when her banner got released. I had like three wishes saved up for her. LOL.
Haha my most fav characters are itto and cyno XD people rave on how “bad” they are but remember it is YOUR account, you don’t need to the most meta characters to clear abyss (yet some of them are my favs too so I pull anyway hah) just remember that! Having fun is #1
I have nahida, Bennett, xingqiu, Xiangling, & chevruse, and I’ve only been playing the game 40 days. So I’m doing pretty well. I even have some of their constellations. The one character I REALLY want is Kuki, but damn being a standard banner 4 star just makes it to where I have no clue how long it will take me to get her 😭. Tighnari is the GOAT though lol
Furina isn’t a must pull if you don’t have a team wide healer. Furina sure provides bigger buffs than Yelan but Yelan should be a must pull. Best team wide healers are Jean(can't guarantee), Charlotte(can't guarantee), Baizhu(Spend wishes), Xianyun(Spend wishes) Whereas Yelan Doesn't need healers to function.
As a side note, ppl should be careful to not choose too many units that want off-field pyro, because as it stands there's no real way to replace Xiangling-Bennett or break them apart (Bennett can fly solo but Xiangling is kinda painful to use without Bennett). If you need more Hydro, there's plenty of options. Off-field Cryo is pretty abundant too. Dendro kinda hamstrung because Nahida is just so good, but you can get away with lower dendro app on Aggravate teams for example. But there's no other real off-field Pyro outside of Xiangling+Bennett :(
Wrong windy person smh. XD Nah I'm kidding but I think that's most people's sentiment that Xianyun is really good while I'm here going "eh nah I'm good", kinda like with Zhongli lol. People like saying that he's a must pull for sure. So really good guess lol.
I am late to this and I know you are restricting to 7 to fit the primo math, but Zhongli is a must. If you play on a phone, it takes SERIOUS skill to not get destroyed. As a 1.0 player, I am not very good but I have brute forced my account to be pretty cracked and Zhongli is my 100% overworld and abyss character. He makes it so you dont need nearly as much skill.
Extremely concise and accurate list with very good advice. I would personally put Al Haitham below Hu Tao and maybe even Nilou, just because Dendro traveler is unironically pretty strong and a very good substitute for many teams and I would add Succrose in the "Probably build if you get them" section. I can't really say I agree or disagree with Chevreuse, because I don't have the character or actually looked at indepth math / footage of how good she is, from my initial thoughts and comparing of who you would play her over in teams that she would fit in and superficially comparing the numbers that she and the characters that she replaces would provide, I found that she wouldn't really be an upgrade in any team or case except for maybe fighting the Hydro Tulpa in abyss when you can't swirl pyro for vape, so I am not sure about her "worth in the meta" (before Arle and Clorinde). But except for that I 100% agree with this list as a day-one player. Can only recommend new players to follow this advice if they are looking for a future proof account that can clear 36* with ease.
This video makes me realize I was spending my primos irresponsibly. My roster consists of mostly DPS snd Sub-DPS. So, I mostly rely on 4-stars as a support. (Tbf, they are enough because I main Wanderer and likes to play Raiden Shogun and Yae Miko.)
Ayaka is actually pretty good to way of putting her in the “Choose 2” Lier; because she now don’t needs Shenhe, and Kokimi; anymore; because of the Charlotte, and Furina; comp. Like if you gave her the Finale Deep R5, and and Charlotte with TTDS; ER Sands, and fav on Kazuha, and Furina; results Ayaka; to be actually so good! I'd put her the same tier; as Childe, and Nilou; in my opinion, ofc…
7 5* characters in a year and 3-4 of them will be standard banners, not limited. "you're probably not going to lose every 5050" ho boy. as someone who started in Jan 2021, i lost every 5050 until Aug 2022 when i wished on Tighnari's banner. literally lost 9 in a row. xDD AlHaitham and Neuvillette have definitely been solid additions to my account! i mostly pull for who I like and most of them are hypercarries, so to have characters that are a bit more flexible has been great!
Nice the list is bang on. This is my plan aswell, get nahida furina kazuha as cores, xianyun is also a core but lower priority (I'd put her above neuvi). Then I can pull for whoever tf I want which is the most important thing. I also agree with the must builds, they offer a lot of additional flexibility.
Having started in October and almost entirely f2p I feel I've had near-perfect wish investment! Furina was my first 5*, I built pity on Ayato's banner to get Kuki, then got Raiden and now Nahida. This allowed met o get 32/36 stars in the abyss so far All I'm waiting for is Kazuha and Yelan to rerun. Hope you do another banner prediction video, your last one was hilariously accurate.
I got a traditional bennet hypercarry team, and now I’m working on a low investment hyperbloom team. But recently in this combat event, I was able to experience Nilou’s bountiful blooms team with Nahida, Furina, and Baizhu and it is so tempting. It’s more damage and fun than I expected but I would need to get Furina, Nilou, and Baizhu, that’s just too much and the banners may never come.
I have most of the characters shown, but Lyney is still my favourite when he first came, I had no idea of his attacks, I had a guarantee and pulled him, I loved him and was pleasantly surprised, for me him and arrlechino are the best pyro characters, sorry hu tao- Lyney was such a game changer for my account. And he is the character I would suggest for everyone, and to anyone who likes bow users such as myself.
My rule of thumb is always get archons because they're the best at something. I believe the pyro archon will either outclass bennet or xianling. I agree with your core 3 except I'd probably add yelan and zhongli. I am hoping arlicuno will be my main Pyro dps
A thing thats worth to mention its how fast you can gear the top 3. Specially the archons. Their artifact sets domain are resin effient, they dont need too much substasts, Nahida can do fine with 3* EM stat sticks and Furina can get a weapon from fishing in Fontaine. Also thanks for making my choice to wait for Xianyun rerun even harder, I lost my 50/50 at 70 pity and now I am at 70 again, I want to make sure I can get Arlecchino so sadly I have to skip bird mama.
11:19 also if you replace kazuha with furina. She can forward vape and buff lynny and break that pyro shield. But that hydro app is constantly creeping up on you
Sincerely, because they made a new event that you can play with multiple 5 stars characters, I was really confused becaused I fell in love with so many characters that I don't have but this helped a lot. Thanks
i'm laughing so much i may have everyone in the red orange and yellow tiers built, but i also only have three on the choose 2 tier and have zero plans for the rest lol
This is a very helpful video. One of the best ones in my opinion. But I wouldn’t put Xianyun and Lyney in the Choose 2 category. Probably will remove Chevy too in the Probably Build section. They’re more niche than not. If I had Raiden & Chevreuse, you can’t tell me that Raiden is less useful and reliable than Chevreuse. There’s just no way. Even Zhongli or Baizhu are more valuable units than Chevreuse. I’d include instead somewhere in that list: Raiden, Ayaka, Zhongli, Kokomi, Baizhu. Versatility & flexibility are important for proofing one’s roster. A niche approach kinda counters what proofing one’s account intends to accomplish.
My two 5-star mains are interestingly Yae Miko and Nahida. The third member of my main team is always Yanfei. The 4th slot on my team can be taken up by anyone with the 4th element that I need in the team. I also love using only Catalyst-users in my teams when I can as well because of all the elemental reactions!
Instead of getting Nahida, I wished for Xianyun. I got Xiao when he came out, and then I stopped playing the game. I went back in December with a lot to explore (final quests in Liyue, Inazuma, and so on). I wished for Ayaka since I didn't have a Cryo 5*, then I tried to wish for Navia and got a Qiqi (rip). Then I farmed like crazy to get Raiden, got her, and decided to get her weapon (and I got it in 30 wishes, maybe an old pity from early 2021). So far, I've lost every single 50/50. In the case of Nahida, I got Diluc, and then 40 wishes later, I ironically clicked on the Xianyun banner and got her. I'm happy though; she's so fun to explore the world with. I have Jean, Albedo, Xiao, Keqing, Ayaka, Raiden, Qiqi, Diluc, and Xianyun. Since I'm an old player (1.0), I have all the important old 4* (but none fully constellationed). Back in the day, it was harder than people realize to get wishes; once you explored every corner of Liyue and Monstand, there was not much you could do to get primogems, so 6C is not that easy of a thing to do.
Funny how Sucrose is basically the reason why I never pulled for Kazuha(Unless if I really need him on Mono teams) and she's not one of the 4* must build .
How do I have every single 4 star and Furina C1, Nahida, Kazuha, and getting close to completing my wish list for other five stars, but NO KUKI. She is the only one that evades me. Even barely got C0 Chevreuse :(
I feel like you could make this same list with four and drop Kaz these days and be perfectly viable. You rarely used him in your sample teams and in each case that you did, someone else that you have would have worked in that slot. He's just not the must pull that he used to be. Loved the concept of this video btw, thanks!
I'll say this again, but know your teams and who you wanna main first BEFORE getting Kazuha. I was convinced I needed him cuz of how top tier he was heralded but I main Xiao hypercarry and Alhaitham quickbloom. Literally never use Kazuha so it was a wasted pull and months of saving because everywhere you look people say he's a must. Don't get me wrong, he's amazing at what he does, but just be sure he's actually what you need for your teams.
Personally i would put zhongli in the must pull/choose to, been with him in my account since his first rerun and he makes the game completely different, best shielder, buffer with milelith, and a 3 star best-in-slot weapon. He changed the way i play the game and for new players, will make the playthrough waaay more confortable
Great info! The only thing is i always use Zhongli in my Spirlal Abyss team. I prefer it a bit safer and ofcourse it's harder to get all 36 stars but i like that challenge
you can't really start the video saying get these 5* units so you never have to wish again then say you made a video like this 6 months ago that's outdated and the list has been changed.
Solid list. I still routinely clear the Abyss with (1) Raiden National (Raiden, Bennett, Xiangling, and Xingqiu) and (2) Alhaitham quick bloom (Alhaitham, Nahida, Furina/Yelan, and Kuki Shinobu). No surprise these characters are all on the list, because they're all solid, and they're my go-to teams. PS - Even though he's probably my favorite character Kazuha has not found his way onto my floor 12 teams lately. It's basically because floor 12 doesn't need a ton of grouping (half the floors are just bosses) and the other half, hyperbloom is homing missile, so grouping isn't strictly required. That being said, I still cannot recommend Kazuha enough to anyone. He's just too good for grouping and buffing. He basically is Venti + Sucrose, so don't go listening to people who are like "you don't need Kazuha if you have Sucrose or Venti" because it's not true. The opposite is true: you don't need Sucrose or Venti if you have Kazuha. PPS - If Kazuha was the tall man character type (aka the husbando), like Tartaglia or Alhaitham, he would be my favorite character.
all you need is to just have fun. if you try to min max you wont have a fun time. just chill and explore as a new player. too many content creators will have you think that if your team doesnt nuke enemies they are bad. many of the memed on characters are also nowhere near as bad as they say they are. for exmple i would say raiden and zhongli are the biggest must pulls as they keep you safe and fix any energy recharge problems you have. they are AMAZING supports that provide great QoL effects to combat.
So glad I have kazuha, furina, and nahida now. Out of all the characters you mentioned that I do have on my account is c1 furina, kazuha, nahida, nuevilette, raiden, and hu tao. I plan on getting alhaitham so hopefully that goes well haha.
2 of my fav characters are Eula and Rosaria.... I almost never use them cause of how under powered Physical is. Like most boss creatures have phys res that is insanely high as well or shield phases.
Great video! In one year of playing seriously I was able to make a Nahida Hyperbloom, c2 Raiden overload, and neuvillette taser. None of the three teams share a character. It certainly feels like I never need to wish again, but I still want zhongli! I actually am debating whether or not to get furina because I feel like most of her teams are with characters I don’t care much for. And it doesn’t really feel like my account NEEDS her. Maybe I’ll change my mind at some point.
@@Lesterberne I either main yomiya or Childe. Seems like I’m missing their most common people like zhongi yelan or Kasuga. Since I like kaz I rather save resources and time for him then put in sucouse or sayu
@@TheNrat Yoimiya can run Yunjin or Chevreuse teams in place of pyro swirled Kaz teams if you have them. Childe can run a Sucrose variant of international (Bennet & Xiangling) that Guoba swirls if you look into advance tech with Childe teams.
When i started playing Genshin (almost 1 year ago) my goal was to 1. get Raiden because i thought she is cool and 2. have 2 strong teams that can beat the Abyss. I achieved both goals, Neuv and Alhitham always carry me in abyss so now I will be pulling for characters that I like but aren't labeled as "The strongest" Like Ayato or Rizzly
I am missing Kazuha from your "Must Wish" list, none from the "Must Build", none from the "Probably Build if You Get Them", and I've only got Xianyun, Raiden and Navia from your "Choose 2". I like to see so many of my favourites making your list. Although I do have Chevreuse, I have chosen to skip her in favour of Baizhou and Beidou. I have decided to build up past level 70 Furina, Nahida, Bennett, Xiangling (I am skipping Xingqiu for now because I am prioritizing Furina as my hydro character), Gaming (did you forget him?), Kuki, Xianyun, Navia, Baizhou and Beidou. Since I want two healers, I picked Bennett and Baizhou. Although Bennett is not as great a DPS as Xiangling, I use him a lot more because of his healing aspect but also because he is better when I need to apply pyro on a moving target. Not only is he great on moving targets but his CD is so short, I can apply piro again and again. Finally, I just love Beidou for the way she applies electro to multiple targets at once. I know she's not as great against a single enemy but her good side outweighs the bad one.
I appreciated your previous video highlighting the differences between c0 and c6 4 stars and I basically have only low constellations so it'd help if when you mention them you could specify whether you're referring to c6 vs just having it (c0). Literally something I didn't realise for months (I have c0 Xingqiu and didn't understand why it was that great). (Speaking of.. I randomly ended up getting c2 Mona 😂 from the standard banner)
If I could add one thing it would be Zhongli for a comfort honourable mention, and Baizhu for top tier Furina synergy.
There’s a ton of great team options for the last section that I missed because I was doing this on the fly. Let me know which are your favourites!
All I need is furina and my acct future proof problems will be complete I have the other ones
Jello, this is a great list. Amazing idea. But, it kinda worries me there is no Cryo option anywhere 5:55
@@sasha_fygon2647 cryo weak af
@@sasha_fygon2647ayaka is a decent option if you have charlotte for furina/kazuha team but there’s no real need for cryo specifically at the moment. Genshin isn’t like star rail or other games where you need certain elements.
I plan to get Tartaglia and Kazuha as started in Nov and did get Raiden, Nahida (she has floating dreams) and Xianyun. My question is would Tartaglia, Bennett, Fischl and Kazuha be a good team comp? I have R5 Rust set for Tartaglia as main dps and my Fischl is running Thundering Pulse as sub dps as I've been enjoying physical build for her and then the other 2 supports of course.
Honestly, Neuvillette was a game changer for my account. Furina made it stronger when I got her later.
Neuvi just casually solos everything
Same. I got through so much content after getting him. He was also RIDICULOUSLY easy to build in comparison to almost any other character I got, and the fact that I can self-heal him from the verge of death was great.
That, and his character (along with Nahida) is one of my absolute favorites, and because he takes of so much of the damage himself, I can literally put him with any of my other characters that I am in the middle of building/farming friendship with (eg: Sucrose or Layla or Dehya), and it literally does not matter. To be fair, he's C0 so I run grandpa Zhongli with him (or Layla now).
That said, am now a bit stuck due to the rumored upcoming banners considering I want both Kazuha and Furina. TT_TT
brooo neuvillette came out when i was taking a break from genshin and now i rlly want him😭😭didnt even get a chance
@@misschocoki he's coming back 4.5 second phase
@@diogomiguel6377 dude tysm im def pulling for him 😭😭 saving up all my primos
Who is watching this even though you won’t really listen to him?😂
yup. more interested to see how many of the chars i want show up on the list. my acct will never have kazuha, nor will it have a 5 star limited dendro. Raiden, HuTao, Furina, Cloud Retainer, and Yelan (eventually), yup.
No one can stop us watching and pulling for characters
Yea I only watch to see what characters I like are on the list
I already have nahida and am saving for furina, I don’t like kazuha tho…
just coming to watch my characters being in the must pull list for satisfaction
Me cuz my account has 20 meta teams now want fun team's
I basically only have a few characters that I really like, so I base my pulls around what makes me play them in more teams or improving their current teams. Simple really.
That kind of focus is admirable, I end up wanting to dps everyone since I haven't quite fallen in love with a character yet. I'll probably main Xiao and/or Kazuha. Good luck on your rolls!
when i first started playing this was what i did! My favorite character at the time was Razor and i maimed him and built him as my do’s despite him basically just being a phys dps. I had a lot more fun building a character I love rather than obsessing over meta
@@Cheddar-Frogmaining Kazuha is the only reason i play this game if i couldn't do it i would quit he's 90% of the fun of this for me at this point i love his moveset
@@Force-Multiplier Got Kazuha, can confirm he absolutely transformed my experience. His crowd control is so satisfying, and as a comment on a video said, "that sword flip has so much rizz."
yeah same.
This is EXACTLY what im looking for and no other content creators have done it, as far as i've seen.
Good luck on your pulls! Who are you planning on getting?
@@Cheddar-FrogI really want furina and yelan. Not because they’re meta but because I really love their designs and lore
Tbh if youre minmaxing your account pulling for chacracters with resin efficient domains is so much more important than actual unit strength.
For example, if you pull for furina and not pull neuvilette youre wasting all your MH artifact rolls.
Pulling for yelan makes you passively be able to build xiangling xinqiu beidou and more so pulling for raiden is a great idea as well.
Only nahida i think is an actual must pull as her kit is immune to gameplay powercreep so unless they introduce a super OP dendro character she'll be at the top til the end of the game.
My top 5 pulls
1. Nahida
2. Yelan
3. Furina
4. Neuvilette
5. Raiden
He's the only one that actively tries to think of ways to guide and answer beginner's questions unlike other whale bait showcase channel and generic build guides.
@@Erisno1Furina is definitely better than nahida in every possible way of considering meta. You do realise that if you have furina you can use marachuse on almost 90% of the units and it will be equal or sometimes even better than their bis. My top 5 list is:
1) Furina
2)Nahida
3) Yelan
4)Kazuha
5) Xingqiu
With how much Yaoyao subbed in at the end she deserved to be in the section with Chev and Kuki
Yah she's better than Nahida in offield dendro against respawning opponents. Also her offield would be good if you don't want too much dendro. Like swirl
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 not better than sac frags Nahida
Meh
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 i got her from lantern rite and heard only good things about her, but i don't know how to use her, what's her best teams ?
I agree - I think Yao Yao is criminally underrated. I think she's basically a good substitute for Baizhu, the way Fischl is for Yae Miko. If you have one you really don't need the other.
wow.... that list is so good and well thought out. I dont need that list anymore and was just watching out of curiousity but I am still surprised
Raiden was a game changer for my acc. Allowed me to easily 36 star consistently after. Wanderer helped alot too
Newbie would not be able to 36 abyss with wanderer any time soon. He requires too much build up to work
@@frankxu4795exactly. He's seriously hard to build and requires a specifict team comp to make him strong, I pulled him just for the sake of being able to fly, which is pretty sad how even Xianyun beats that aspect..
@@frankxu4795but they never said that they were a newbie
always love listening to you yap even though i’ve mostly quit playing and focus on HSR, keep up the content bro
🤣🤣
Fantastic way of looking at characters!! So important to be able to choose 2 favorites whatever the META and then the CHOOSE 2 section is fabulous as there are many strong characters to choose from and you want some flexibility to still choose the ones you prefer… I love the video, great food for thoughts and helps those who do need some guidance!!
As always, thank you!!!
Healer meta with no Baizhu on the "Choose 2" category seems criminal to me. Specially, his element and being a catalyst user makes him even more an obvious pick.
Yeah Baizhu belongs somewhere for sure. 🤔
He’s really valuable these days
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I agree 100% - I'd actually say Neuvillette is #1 for new players who want to be able to plow through all content straight away - overworld, bosses, domains - and have an insane DPS for future Spiral clear - particularly because he can heal himself and it's frustrating as a new player when every fight takes ages and you don't want to waste resources on characters and 3-4* artifacts before AR45.
Neuvillette is a one man team that will plow through anything non hydro (but even then I use him on hydro bosses, it just takes longer) and even though he "needs" a shielder, you can avoid it by pulling him back and his skill cooldown is fast enough that if you missed your charge attack, you'll get another one soon. To be able to do that with 1 5* is far more valuable for any player, especially a new one.
For me, (started 1 year ago), before Neuvillette, it wasn't until I had Zhongli I could easily plow through every weekly boss - before that I had to use so many diff team comps to compensate but I didn't want to have to build certain characters or spend 10 minutes for each boss - with Zhongli and Neuvillette I can use the exact same team for every weekly boss and plow through them so fast lol so that's something a new player might want to consider
I'd say if you want to build two endgame teams at the same time, then Furina and Nahida because you can build one hyperbloom team and one Furina team and just as Nahida will compensate for not having the best options for the rest of the team, Furina will do that for the other team. And both of those units are so flexible (but new players will need to build healer for Furina and potentially a shielder since Nahida is easily knocked around)
BUT Barbara is a new player's only option and is not a good enough healer for Furina teams so in that case, I actually think Xianyun is better to get before Nahida particularly because they synergize with each other so well, Xianyun even if not used for plunging has amazing healing and carries VV artifact, so with both of them you can make even a weaker DPS significantly stronger - Dendro is powerful enough that you can get away with dendro MC until next Nahida banner, but Xianyun is both a healer and anemo vv holder so it's like 2 characters in one (she's significantly boosted my Zhongli/Furina/Neuvillette team because she takes the role of Baizu heals and Kazuha VV and puts them into 1 - although I know Kazuha does more but I like having Zhongli for my slight controller lag)
But there's only a couple days left for Nahida and Xianyun so it will be months before you can get them again, so I'd say in this case, Furina, Neuvillette and Kazuha are priority
Also,
It is NOT helpful to tell new players the game is easy so play who you like, because veterans have months worth of artifacts farmed - a selection of decent 4* weapons and multiple cons of good 4* units. It is also not helpful because as a new player with so many characters to choose from, you might like so many that you need another parameter in which to narrow the selection down.
New players will level up FAST - I'm already AR45 on my new account and I've only played a month - so my world level jumped faster than I could build characters and its easier for me because I know what to expect, but for an actual new player, leveling faster than you can build characters means that you wan't strong characters now, not the unhelpful advice that any 4* can beat spiral (yeah with a high investment build that takes months/years for cons).
If they are pulling for Furina then they are also gonna be pulling for a 4star healer.
@@loreyxillumina yeah she makes the whole team struggle if the healer is not strong enough, especially against hard hitting bosses. Most healers can work with a bit more effort, but the only guaranteed healer is Barbara and she's not great.
Xianyun, Baizhu, Jean are best, then charlotte on Proto Amber and then most other healers can work even if not ideal
Furina is just such a huge sub dps that can boost a ton of teams, and her auto targeting is awesome for AOE (not so great when every bonfire in overworld is attacked and drains hp though lol) that I still think she's worth getting even if you don't have the best healer at first - but the healing issue is important to consider!
doesn’t he require a regional
Boss though
@@nodrvgs yeah but you can access it as soon as you are allowed to travel outside Mondstadt (after Act 1 of story). The only characters that are an issue are the ones from Inazuma
@@trashbuilds8351 that is true. I’m a returning player so I’m still unfamiliar with the layout of the new regions, thought they were all gonna be quest-locked like inazuma
Oh my!
I started playing in October this year, and THIS video is absolutely amazing. We always feel lost because there is a lot of characters that can be played, but your video reaaaally help to focus on the good things
Especially for f2p players that have not many primogems to spend!!!
Hi! I also started during October, Neuvillette's banner.... Whom did u get till date? Just curious
@@ChibiRaiden-ny9qh I tried to pull Hu Tao with the 60 pulls I got at the time, and did not get her (I saw that she was really strong, but now I think that she wouldn't suits me, so I'm glad that I did not get the pulls to get her).
So I pulled for Furina and Raiden ! I got Nahida recently too.
As a girl, there are not a lot of guy that I would love to play, so I am basically going for girls I love. Raiden was the one I was waiting the most, and now I'm waiting for Clorinde (I hope she's not bad !)
Good choices!! If you need friends to clear content I can help when available since I know clearing some stuff early can be hard xD also from what leaks say clorinde will be good and arlechino as well
Hi have you clear abyss yet?
@@Folcalors I can easily go to floor 11 and get all the stars. Floor 12 I usually don't try because combat is not my thing. Abysses is really not my thing haha, I know that I need to be mega concentrate to pass it, so I don't really enjoy trying floor 12
@dennism05678 thanks for the help! I do not need help for the moment bu thank you so much for proposing ❤️
I love your algorithm. Helps a lot to make the most out of our primogems
I really enjoyed this video, but not just for the headline content. As someone who is about six months into Genshin, your discussion about how new players should have so many wishes during their first year of play really made me think about how important it is to actually do all the world quests and exploration to get those permanent primogems. I always thought about them as something I can get to "eventually" without realizing the cost of that way of thinking: you end up being forced to skip banners that you really shouldn't skip.
I cant argue with the choices jello in terms of progression i agree and yeah the teams you can make with the first 3 should make up the bread and butter of your account absolute fantastic content and extremely helpful to the genshin community not to mention i dont think people realise the amount of effort you put into editing we appreciate you and thats not counting your time aswell
I would put Ayaka there since shes actually versatile: Combat-wise, still decent and good freeze, runs fast for exploration, and second best unlimited water-runner in game.
i love her and would reccomend anyone to pull her, but shes not needed at all, she isnt meta anymore and abyss isnt great for freeze rn, maybe this will change in sneznaya(i know i wrote this wrong), she also requires a lot of investment, that new players might not be willing to do
@@GuruOfTheMoon This has to change in 6.X otherwise cyro dps would not make a whole lot of $$$ and there will be a lot of them for sure. Hoyo did that for Dendro by completely re-working the elemental reactions. Will not surprise me if that happens all over again to add more options for cryo
@@frankxu4795 i think they will do it similar to arlecchino with some special mechanic for every singe character, i would love to see the element in itself get buffed though, i love ganyu and ayaka they are my favorite characters...
Yeah, I use Ayaka more than anyone because there's more running than fighting in this game
don't pull Ayaka, you need to pull 4 5star things to get her decent, at least, it's a hypercarry character that is week in comparison to more f2p options
Never having to wish again? Getting new characters and testing them out is the reason I play the game, and the motto of this channel! 😆I have been playing since forever, so this isn't really for me, but it was a good watch and you make good content. For the most part the same small group of 5 stars are promoted by content creators time and time again understandably, because they are the best. Thankfully, 5 stars aren't as stationary as the top 4 stars most of whom have existed since launch.
This video was EXACTLY what I needed. Simple math on wish count, simple "pick two" list, simple demo of team comps. I feel a lot less nervous pulling for characters I want knowing what characters I need.
Everyone is forgetting Zhongli. He doesnt help you much damage-wise, but he totally changes the game from easy to not-even-a-game-anymore difficulty.
His Abyss Usage remains extremely high because he reduces the difficulty down to almost zero.
The DPS threshold is low enough that defensive options still have tremendous value.
I clear abyss with him always on one of my two teams. He is lvl 78 with lvl 12 artifacts. Anymore than that and he would be too strong 😂
But he's not a must pull. His kit is old and weak just like most older characters. By that i meant that he doesn't have fast big off field damage,bc his pillers are so slow and have little aoe. He's only good as a shield bot and that's it. I don't like how hoyoverse did Venti and Zhongli so dirty. For now we'll just have to wait till they update their old kits and other old characters kits too. Bc hoyoverse is too damn prideful and greedy to even fix their old lazy work. And y'all better not say that I'm asking for too much,when I'm legit just asking for the bare minimum. Cause i can already see someone screaming at me abt how "OVERPOWERED" the old characters will become💀 Like everything still depends on artifacts luck and teams tf. Even after getting your most wanted character, you'll still be on the grind and suffering to get the best artifacts for them. Which is hella unfair after all the hard work you've done farming primogems and now you're gonna be farming artifacts everyday to get better/decent ones. It's ridiculous that we can't pick an artifact main stat and at least 2 substats that we need. Everything is so damn reliant on luck/RNG,which makes most of us farm for years to finally get some decent level 20 artifacts :
Yeah ive seen zhong li with neuvillete and furina team
He can if you build him dps with geo traveller for zhongli multihit passive damage
I think its important to add that alot of META discussions will lead you to believe that certain characters are "powercrept" and you shouldn't really bother with them.
I'm talking chars like Ayaka, Hu Tao, Raiden Shogun, Cyno, etc. For example, outside of stuff like Raiden as a hyperbloom trigger, she is definitely plenty strong to be used an on-field DPS.
They may not be "the best" but they are perfectly viable. Hell, I've 36* the abyss with Diluc and Ayaka thanks to Xianyun and Furina empowering them, you don't *need* to use hyperbloom or Neuvilette if you don't like those playstyles.
Started 250 days ago, and i have yelan,kazuha,nahida,raiden,navia,alhaitam,furina,jean,kuki , and i 36 starred spiral abyss in 4.4 , your videos really helped me!!
And I am F2P 😅
First time 36 stars?
Noice ! Congratz fellow f2p ❤
I’m f2p too my first 36 star didn’t take that long I did it in about 100 days after starting
I'm f2p too I still haven't 36-star'd the abyss but I'm slowly getting there. Last time I got 34 stars 😅 I hope I get Furina and/or Kazuha to help me easily get there
My goodness I must suck, I’ve played much longer and can’t pass floor 6 for some reason. Also only at WL3 and AR35. 23 70’s 9 are 5*, 7 60 3 are 5*, 51 total characters
I started Genshin around 3.1 update. These were the characters I pulled in order and used to 36 star the abyss for the first time.
Nahida, Keqing, Wanderer, Raiden, Xiao, Nilou, Kazuha, and Klee.
Nilou bloom really carried my team. I also used Klee hyperburgeon, Klee mono pyro, and Raiden Aggravate. Nahida, Kazuha, and Raiden were the characters I used the most!
Always fun seeing someone that knows what he's talking about!!
Only nitpick i have is probably lenyey... Considering he is a bow user (interruption issues) and most of his dmg is locked behind his burst so u need to sacrifice some stats for ER%, not to mention hu tqo deals more pyro dmg than him so i wouldn't say he is a "must pull"
“Future proof your account”
“So my last video was outdated…”
WAT
I think you also want to make sure you have one more defensive option aside from Bennett+Xingqiu in case the Abyss is very aggressive on both sides like the rifthounds, Hydro Tulpa, or Fatui operatives.
If you “chose two” with poor defense like Yelan, Hu Tao and the abyss was aggressive:
Side 1 is fine with Bennet, Xingqiu, Yelan or Hu Tao
However side 2 would be trouble, since you’d have Furina in healer mode or Prototype Amber.
You could build Barbara or Noelle who are guaranteed, but they were not in that list.
WARNING if you've never played before and just purely want to easily clear abyss, i highly recommend getting nahida and neuvilette. You will never have to sweat again. Alot of these other 5 stars you have to do proper rotations, build them DECENTLY as in 60-70 crit rate and 140 crit dmg which is hard to get for new players (6 months in). Even characters like raiden shogun you will have to sweat and have a hard time clearing abyss with. So if you want to have a fun happy no sweat or pulling your hair out time, then i highly recommend neuvilette and nahida.
DISCLAIMER❗️: This is not for players who have player more than 6-8 months who have no trouble clearing abyss with their goated artifacts, c1 5 star charactere or r1 5 star limited banner weapons. Or those who are insanely sweaty and do rotations perfectly. This is for the newbie trash player who cannot clear abyss no matter what and just wanna get the most op easy to play characters.
“These characters are future-proof”
“I had a previous video like this, but those future-proof characters are outdated”
how do you expect me to add new characters to an old video lol
Get all the archons (Kazuha instead of Venti). Get Nuevilette. Build Bennett XQ Xiangling. You win and then can just pull for your fav chars afterwards.
Let's go Jelloooo. Your videos are improving a lot and so helpful.
Started this game 3 weeks ago. Invested A LOT of time into it coz it is extremely fun. Dropped some $$ for the one-time deals. So far I’ve lost 4 out of 4 50/50: 2 on arlechino banner and 2 on weapon banner. I also have Qiqi c1. Feels great
Nice video for new players! Even though I've played for 3 years I still like watching your videos, keep up the great work!
I agree with most of this list. I think kokomi deserves to be in choose 2. I picked her up on her first banner and never had any regret. Mine is now C2 with moonglow and I use her with nahida, raiden, and Xingqiu. Her driving capabilities are so good I think she deserves more credit. she's my tank, healer, and driver that got me to easily 36 star abyss.
This is basically exactly the list I would give to anyone trying to maximize their initial investments/roster, so I would say you did a good job :)
My alt account I started in 4.0 is quite literally following this rubric completely (Yelan->Furina->Raiden->Nahida->planned Kazuha) with the only built four stars being the ones listed (and Charlotte for Furina heals) and was able to full clear abyss within three patches.
I was using dendro MC and tighnari and have always seen Nahida been said as a must pull blah blah. I thought Nahida would just increase the overall damage slightly..... But oh my god I pulled for Nahida and she has just increased the damage so many folds
So I've realised that Jello is saying the truth when he says who are must pull
An excellent video. While I have been 36 starring the abyss for a while now, it was interesting highlight of the characters I hadn't noticed I was consistently using each run. My dad found this particular video very enlightening as a relatively new player. Definitely a recommended video for new players.
He’s trying so hard to keep new players away from daddy zhongli
I think the great thing about Navia is thet how cheap her teams are. You can just use Xiangling (free unit and shop), Bennet (shop) and GMC (only agains bosses) or Ninguang (shop and lantern rite) and you can just go to the Abyss. Even this is flexible because if you don't have C4 Xiangling you can use Fischl or even Xingqiu as well. In reality I think she is one of the most beginner friendly on-field damage dealer in the game, maybe even more then Neuvilette, though Neuvilette so good on the base line thet even with a joke team he will be extremly good.
It would be interesting to talk about how it is different with other 5*. Like, we know as example thet Xiao and Cyno is very pricey charatcers, but I would like to see how different 5* different in this point.
Thank you for the video!!
I am in the process of strengthening my account (and so far it's going REALLY well, I am already so much stronger) and I can testify to Kazuha and Nahida changing your account for real. I can't imagine my account without those two. I don't yet have a Furina, but I am planning to fix that asap. It's also really encouraging to see how many in the choose 2 category I already have and how many I already decided I was going to get (I unexpectedly fell in love with Navia but I lost the 5050 so I am waiting for her rerun, and I NEED Xianyun for my #1 ever of all time Luc but I lost the 5050, soo...)
Thank you so much for the video once again and I hope you'll enjoy the rest of your day!
This is way more precise than I expected. Would have been great to have something like this when I started in 2.3 haha
C1 Neuvillete
Kazuha
Yelan
I regret not getting these.
C1 neuvilette is not really needed. I would pull for his weapon instead. The only weapon in the game making a 40%+ damage difference in some situation
my c0 neuv sign is destroying almost anything (almost bc he cant hurt hydro slime)
sometimes I take his book and give it to my dps barbara . . . he still do much dmg
Hydro slime: oh yeah?
@@simon_roy Do you have Zhongli? I feel like no other shield matches his extended rotations if you burst every rotation. I'm getting c1 just cuz he's glued to Layla and that doesn't feel good. Besides that though, weapons take longer (on avg) than cons. 90-180 wishes to guarantee a con, 240 to guarantee a weapon.
@simon_roy While it a bigger increase, it is hard to understate the teams you get access to with c1. It also increases his synergy with Furina and you can guarantee it with minimal cost compared to the weapon. I would always recommend his c1 over Tome if his weapon banner looks stinky.
Yaoyao is also a very good 4 star unit😊 her dendro application, healing, c1 buffing, and passing is really good
Just re-watching this and remembered I got Nahida in one wish. I started playing when her banner got released. I had like three wishes saved up for her. LOL.
01:46 that's where you're wrong, it wasn't until my 9th featured banner that I won my first 50/50...lost on previous 8
Amazing vid! Exactly what I was looking for with how u separated it
Haha my most fav characters are itto and cyno XD people rave on how “bad” they are but remember it is YOUR account, you don’t need to the most meta characters to clear abyss (yet some of them are my favs too so I pull anyway hah) just remember that! Having fun is #1
I wonder where Arlecchino will fit into this?
I have nahida, Bennett, xingqiu, Xiangling, & chevruse, and I’ve only been playing the game 40 days. So I’m doing pretty well. I even have some of their constellations. The one character I REALLY want is Kuki, but damn being a standard banner 4 star just makes it to where I have no clue how long it will take me to get her 😭. Tighnari is the GOAT though lol
Furina isn’t a must pull if you don’t have a team wide healer. Furina sure provides bigger buffs than Yelan but Yelan should be a must pull.
Best team wide healers are Jean(can't guarantee), Charlotte(can't guarantee), Baizhu(Spend wishes), Xianyun(Spend wishes)
Whereas Yelan Doesn't need healers to function.
As a side note, ppl should be careful to not choose too many units that want off-field pyro, because as it stands there's no real way to replace Xiangling-Bennett or break them apart (Bennett can fly solo but Xiangling is kinda painful to use without Bennett). If you need more Hydro, there's plenty of options. Off-field Cryo is pretty abundant too. Dendro kinda hamstrung because Nahida is just so good, but you can get away with lower dendro app on Aggravate teams for example. But there's no other real off-field Pyro outside of Xiangling+Bennett :(
Lemme guess, Furina, Nahida, Xianyun, Zhongli, Raiden? Or maybe replace Zhongli with Yelan?
Replace Nahida, Xianyun, Zhongli and Raiden with more Furinas (Xingqius also count, as he is just Furina)
Furina, Nahida, Kazuha actually (then two any of the top DPS/team damage floor raising aupport e.g Nilou, Xianyun, characters)
bro tried to sneak in xianyun
Wrong windy person smh. XD
Nah I'm kidding but I think that's most people's sentiment that Xianyun is really good while I'm here going "eh nah I'm good", kinda like with Zhongli lol. People like saying that he's a must pull for sure. So really good guess lol.
@@VanillaCoke1956get furina bro nuev is extremely strong, but furina is more beneficial to your account than him
I never thought I'd see the day I have all of the "must" haves, but here we are.
I am late to this and I know you are restricting to 7 to fit the primo math, but Zhongli is a must. If you play on a phone, it takes SERIOUS skill to not get destroyed. As a 1.0 player, I am not very good but I have brute forced my account to be pretty cracked and Zhongli is my 100% overworld and abyss character. He makes it so you dont need nearly as much skill.
Extremely concise and accurate list with very good advice. I would personally put Al Haitham below Hu Tao and maybe even Nilou, just because Dendro traveler is unironically pretty strong and a very good substitute for many teams and I would add Succrose in the "Probably build if you get them" section. I can't really say I agree or disagree with Chevreuse, because I don't have the character or actually looked at indepth math / footage of how good she is, from my initial thoughts and comparing of who you would play her over in teams that she would fit in and superficially comparing the numbers that she and the characters that she replaces would provide, I found that she wouldn't really be an upgrade in any team or case except for maybe fighting the Hydro Tulpa in abyss when you can't swirl pyro for vape, so I am not sure about her "worth in the meta" (before Arle and Clorinde). But except for that I 100% agree with this list as a day-one player. Can only recommend new players to follow this advice if they are looking for a future proof account that can clear 36* with ease.
This video makes me realize I was spending my primos irresponsibly. My roster consists of mostly DPS snd Sub-DPS. So, I mostly rely on 4-stars as a support.
(Tbf, they are enough because I main Wanderer and likes to play Raiden Shogun and Yae Miko.)
Ayaka is actually pretty good to way of putting her in the “Choose 2” Lier; because she now don’t needs Shenhe, and Kokimi; anymore; because of the Charlotte, and Furina; comp. Like if you gave her the Finale Deep R5, and and Charlotte with TTDS; ER Sands, and fav on Kazuha, and Furina; results Ayaka; to be actually so good! I'd put her the same tier; as Childe, and Nilou; in my opinion, ofc…
7 5* characters in a year and 3-4 of them will be standard banners, not limited. "you're probably not going to lose every 5050" ho boy. as someone who started in Jan 2021, i lost every 5050 until Aug 2022 when i wished on Tighnari's banner. literally lost 9 in a row. xDD
AlHaitham and Neuvillette have definitely been solid additions to my account! i mostly pull for who I like and most of them are hypercarries, so to have characters that are a bit more flexible has been great!
Thanks for making this it’s super helpful! :)
Nice the list is bang on. This is my plan aswell, get nahida furina kazuha as cores, xianyun is also a core but lower priority (I'd put her above neuvi). Then I can pull for whoever tf I want which is the most important thing. I also agree with the must builds, they offer a lot of additional flexibility.
"if you have these you'll never wish again"
until 6 months later when new characters came out 😂
Started 2 months ago, I have Ayaka and Yoimiya , kinda just waiting for Furina and Yelan to run
If you play Yoimiya you'll *love* having Yelan
Yanfei is so fun btw can’t wait for you build her!! She’s my favourite pyro character based on playstyle in the whole game
Having started in October and almost entirely f2p I feel I've had near-perfect wish investment! Furina was my first 5*, I built pity on Ayato's banner to get Kuki, then got Raiden and now Nahida. This allowed met o get 32/36 stars in the abyss so far
All I'm waiting for is Kazuha and Yelan to rerun. Hope you do another banner prediction video, your last one was hilariously accurate.
I got a traditional bennet hypercarry team, and now I’m working on a low investment hyperbloom team. But recently in this combat event, I was able to experience Nilou’s bountiful blooms team with Nahida, Furina, and Baizhu and it is so tempting. It’s more damage and fun than I expected but I would need to get Furina, Nilou, and Baizhu, that’s just too much and the banners may never come.
I have most of the characters shown, but Lyney is still my favourite when he first came, I had no idea of his attacks, I had a guarantee and pulled him, I loved him and was pleasantly surprised, for me him and arrlechino are the best pyro characters, sorry hu tao- Lyney was such a game changer for my account. And he is the character I would suggest for everyone, and to anyone who likes bow users such as myself.
I’m pulling for itto either way 😂
Good luck, I still love him lol
same
this video helped a lot as a f2p who has never won a 50/50 ever in this game
My rule of thumb is always get archons because they're the best at something. I believe the pyro archon will either outclass bennet or xianling. I agree with your core 3 except I'd probably add yelan and zhongli. I am hoping arlicuno will be my main Pyro dps
that would make 7 must pull 5, this tier was for the acc core which less number is better
and here i am building chongyun because... hes cute.
Xianyun is def a must pull for exploration value, a good upgrade from wanderer, which will def help you get those 1000 pulls much faster
A thing thats worth to mention its how fast you can gear the top 3.
Specially the archons. Their artifact sets domain are resin effient, they dont need too much substasts, Nahida can do fine with 3* EM stat sticks and Furina can get a weapon from fishing in Fontaine.
Also thanks for making my choice to wait for Xianyun rerun even harder, I lost my 50/50 at 70 pity and now I am at 70 again, I want to make sure I can get Arlecchino so sadly I have to skip bird mama.
11:19 also if you replace kazuha with furina. She can forward vape and buff lynny and break that pyro shield.
But that hydro app is constantly creeping up on you
Sincerely, because they made a new event that you can play with multiple 5 stars characters, I was really confused becaused I fell in love with so many characters that I don't have but this helped a lot. Thanks
i'm laughing so much i may have everyone in the red orange and yellow tiers built, but i also only have three on the choose 2 tier and have zero plans for the rest lol
my half-assed neuvi output waaay more damage than my tripple crowned raiden with very good (imo) artifacts
This is a very helpful video. One of the best ones in my opinion. But I wouldn’t put Xianyun and Lyney in the Choose 2 category.
Probably will remove Chevy too in the Probably Build section. They’re more niche than not. If I had Raiden & Chevreuse, you can’t tell me that Raiden is less useful and reliable than Chevreuse. There’s just no way. Even Zhongli or Baizhu are more valuable units than Chevreuse.
I’d include instead somewhere in that list: Raiden, Ayaka, Zhongli, Kokomi, Baizhu. Versatility & flexibility are important for proofing one’s roster. A niche approach kinda counters what proofing one’s account intends to accomplish.
My two 5-star mains are interestingly Yae Miko and Nahida. The third member of my main team is always Yanfei. The 4th slot on my team can be taken up by anyone with the 4th element that I need in the team. I also love using only Catalyst-users in my teams when I can as well because of all the elemental reactions!
Instead of getting Nahida, I wished for Xianyun. I got Xiao when he came out, and then I stopped playing the game. I went back in December with a lot to explore (final quests in Liyue, Inazuma, and so on). I wished for Ayaka since I didn't have a Cryo 5*, then I tried to wish for Navia and got a Qiqi (rip). Then I farmed like crazy to get Raiden, got her, and decided to get her weapon (and I got it in 30 wishes, maybe an old pity from early 2021). So far, I've lost every single 50/50. In the case of Nahida, I got Diluc, and then 40 wishes later, I ironically clicked on the Xianyun banner and got her. I'm happy though; she's so fun to explore the world with.
I have Jean, Albedo, Xiao, Keqing, Ayaka, Raiden, Qiqi, Diluc, and Xianyun. Since I'm an old player (1.0), I have all the important old 4* (but none fully constellationed). Back in the day, it was harder than people realize to get wishes; once you explored every corner of Liyue and Monstand, there was not much you could do to get primogems, so 6C is not that easy of a thing to do.
Funny how Sucrose is basically the reason why I never pulled for Kazuha(Unless if I really need him on Mono teams) and she's not one of the 4* must build .
How do I have every single 4 star and Furina C1, Nahida, Kazuha, and getting close to completing my wish list for other five stars, but NO KUKI. She is the only one that evades me. Even barely got C0 Chevreuse :(
this helps me out so much cause team comps and judging which characters to pull for is so hard for me LOL
I feel like you could make this same list with four and drop Kaz these days and be perfectly viable. You rarely used him in your sample teams and in each case that you did, someone else that you have would have worked in that slot. He's just not the must pull that he used to be. Loved the concept of this video btw, thanks!
I'll say this again, but know your teams and who you wanna main first BEFORE getting Kazuha.
I was convinced I needed him cuz of how top tier he was heralded but I main Xiao hypercarry and Alhaitham quickbloom. Literally never use Kazuha so it was a wasted pull and months of saving because everywhere you look people say he's a must. Don't get me wrong, he's amazing at what he does, but just be sure he's actually what you need for your teams.
Personally i would put zhongli in the must pull/choose to, been with him in my account since his first rerun and he makes the game completely different, best shielder, buffer with milelith, and a 3 star best-in-slot weapon. He changed the way i play the game and for new players, will make the playthrough waaay more confortable
You should make a vid about when its worth it to start pulling 5 star weapons!
Great info! The only thing is i always use Zhongli in my Spirlal Abyss team. I prefer it a bit safer and ofcourse it's harder to get all 36 stars but i like that challenge
you can't really start the video saying get these 5* units so you never have to wish again then say you made a video like this 6 months ago that's outdated and the list has been changed.
This type of video is the most needed. Please make it often. Maybe once a month or once for three patches. Maybe monthly shorts video.
It's a horrible idea.
Such videos would get repetitive soon.
I think a better idea would be once per region/year.
@@Sencifouy May be you are right. I like this type of content. I will respect Jello's choice.
Solid list. I still routinely clear the Abyss with (1) Raiden National (Raiden, Bennett, Xiangling, and Xingqiu) and (2) Alhaitham quick bloom (Alhaitham, Nahida, Furina/Yelan, and Kuki Shinobu). No surprise these characters are all on the list, because they're all solid, and they're my go-to teams.
PS - Even though he's probably my favorite character Kazuha has not found his way onto my floor 12 teams lately. It's basically because floor 12 doesn't need a ton of grouping (half the floors are just bosses) and the other half, hyperbloom is homing missile, so grouping isn't strictly required. That being said, I still cannot recommend Kazuha enough to anyone. He's just too good for grouping and buffing. He basically is Venti + Sucrose, so don't go listening to people who are like "you don't need Kazuha if you have Sucrose or Venti" because it's not true. The opposite is true: you don't need Sucrose or Venti if you have Kazuha.
PPS - If Kazuha was the tall man character type (aka the husbando), like Tartaglia or Alhaitham, he would be my favorite character.
all you need is to just have fun. if you try to min max you wont have a fun time. just chill and explore as a new player. too many content creators will have you think that if your team doesnt nuke enemies they are bad. many of the memed on characters are also nowhere near as bad as they say they are. for exmple i would say raiden and zhongli are the biggest must pulls as they keep you safe and fix any energy recharge problems you have. they are AMAZING supports that provide great QoL effects to combat.
So glad I have kazuha, furina, and nahida now. Out of all the characters you mentioned that I do have on my account is c1 furina, kazuha, nahida, nuevilette, raiden, and hu tao.
I plan on getting alhaitham so hopefully that goes well haha.
2 of my fav characters are Eula and Rosaria.... I almost never use them cause of how under powered Physical is. Like most boss creatures have phys res that is insanely high as well or shield phases.
I am super happy. I won all 5 Archons 50/50 back to back.
Have you done a video about your figures before? Would love to see em up close
Great video! In one year of playing seriously I was able to make a Nahida Hyperbloom, c2 Raiden overload, and neuvillette taser. None of the three teams share a character. It certainly feels like I never need to wish again, but I still want zhongli! I actually am debating whether or not to get furina because I feel like most of her teams are with characters I don’t care much for. And it doesn’t really feel like my account NEEDS her. Maybe I’ll change my mind at some point.
Sounds like I need save for kaz that everytime I look for teams for my fav character him and yelen come up
Do you want to share what these teams are? In case the alternatives are not much worse than Kazuha
@@Lesterberne I either main yomiya or Childe. Seems like I’m missing their most common people like zhongi yelan or Kasuga. Since I like kaz I rather save resources and time for him then put in sucouse or sayu
@@TheNrat Yoimiya can run Yunjin or Chevreuse teams in place of pyro swirled Kaz teams if you have them. Childe can run a Sucrose variant of international (Bennet & Xiangling) that Guoba swirls if you look into advance tech with Childe teams.
I love these kind of guides !
When i started playing Genshin (almost 1 year ago) my goal was to 1. get Raiden because i thought she is cool and 2. have 2 strong teams that can beat the Abyss. I achieved both goals, Neuv and Alhitham always carry me in abyss so now I will be pulling for characters that I like but aren't labeled as "The strongest" Like Ayato or Rizzly
I am missing Kazuha from your "Must Wish" list, none from the "Must Build", none from the "Probably Build if You Get Them", and I've only got Xianyun, Raiden and Navia from your "Choose 2". I like to see so many of my favourites making your list. Although I do have Chevreuse, I have chosen to skip her in favour of Baizhou and Beidou. I have decided to build up past level 70 Furina, Nahida, Bennett, Xiangling (I am skipping Xingqiu for now because I am prioritizing Furina as my hydro character), Gaming (did you forget him?), Kuki, Xianyun, Navia, Baizhou and Beidou.
Since I want two healers, I picked Bennett and Baizhou. Although Bennett is not as great a DPS as Xiangling, I use him a lot more because of his healing aspect but also because he is better when I need to apply pyro on a moving target. Not only is he great on moving targets but his CD is so short, I can apply piro again and again.
Finally, I just love Beidou for the way she applies electro to multiple targets at once. I know she's not as great against a single enemy but her good side outweighs the bad one.
I appreciated your previous video highlighting the differences between c0 and c6 4 stars and I basically have only low constellations so it'd help if when you mention them you could specify whether you're referring to c6 vs just having it (c0). Literally something I didn't realise for months (I have c0 Xingqiu and didn't understand why it was that great). (Speaking of.. I randomly ended up getting c2 Mona 😂 from the standard banner)