How YOUR WRIST changes EVERYTHING! | Archery GRIP styles!

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  • @4RobFord
    @4RobFord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As someone who is returning to shooting a bow after 20 yrs, this was really helpful. Thanks!

  • @joelaskey2121
    @joelaskey2121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love when I get the notification from average Jack uploading vids!!! It’s like the bell rang and time to get to class!! Master Jack archery! Nate sellers PHD

  • @harleyelep1605
    @harleyelep1605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much. I've been struggling to study my grip for a long time. This gave me clarity

  • @davidcunninghamjr6871
    @davidcunninghamjr6871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You. This was the best explanation I’ve found in this subject. As I am new to archery.

  • @bdubs1010
    @bdubs1010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great explanation! Been shooting for 35 or so years. Mix of recurves and compounds. Always just gripped what felt right and never paid much attention. Just went to try the different grips from your tutorial. Guess I’m in the mid to high grip. Tried the low and man that just felt odd. I felt like I could roll from mid to high while at full draw without torquing. Felt very forgiving. If I went to low I had to completely regrip. That’s what I love about archery. Everything’s so personal. Some of those super high grips looked scary if you shoot a broadhead.
    Hope you had a good school year and can enjoy your summer off. Wish I had teachers like you when I was in school.

  • @andrewbean5163
    @andrewbean5163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hahaha AWESOME TIMING!!!! I’ve been having some issues with tuning my new bow and I’ve been thinking it was grip related and you come out with this vid and answer all the questions that I’ve had. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep the content coming.

  • @garybrewster4988
    @garybrewster4988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've gone from compound to recurve and trad barebow, I find the high wrist grip works best for me , it just feels so much more comfortable. Great channel keep it up

  • @MrGrey-vo2og
    @MrGrey-vo2og ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow this is the best video and most helpful I've seen in regards to where to feel the bow and what the different type of grips are.
    My grip is what's holding me back I'm thinking I have a mid wrist riser! Can't wait to try shoot and get some consistency

  • @renatugaming5730
    @renatugaming5730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love this! Thanks for the advice!!!

  • @saxophone_mockingbird6480
    @saxophone_mockingbird6480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved the video! In truth, my grip has changed a lot over time. Either because I changed my hand position, or I changed the physical grip of my bow. I shoot a medium to low wrist grip. I try not to think about it too much. Because if it feels right, everything will work out.

  • @timothyg.bouras4344
    @timothyg.bouras4344 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This man shares excellent accurate information. I've been in Archery for 50 years. I learned a great deal from this man!!
    "ARCHERY" - The king of sports!!

  • @seanphillips6383
    @seanphillips6383 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I love to learn only been shooting for 2 years I now shoot a pse stinger attack...
    I have found that a low wrist grip suits me much better than any other grip..
    Thanks for the info

  • @bobjohnson5218
    @bobjohnson5218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really good video. Wish more bow mfgrs would offer bows with removable grip so you can try the different angles. I had to do the Sugru Moldable Glue to change the angle on my Hoyt Contender. Don't know if it really helps but it's a bit of a process to put it on, can't just take it off to compare the difference so I just use it like that.

  • @caniswolf3394
    @caniswolf3394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let's talk "Draw Length" for a moment. In February, I had a shoulder replacement surgery on my left shoulder. It was a little tough for awhile, but I came back and am now able to shoot my bows with no pain. However, I found out that the surgeon gave me a little something unexpected.....an extra 1" on my left arm !!! What used to be a solid 29" draw length, is now a very solid 30" draw length !! I own 10 different bows (no recurve/longbows) and many of them being older Mathews (no adjusting modules), it really put a kink in my archery arsenal !! Fortunately, I was able to overcome the obstacle with minimal difficulty, and now have them back to full operating condition.
    Never give in, never give up !!

    • @averagejackarchery
      @averagejackarchery  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Michael Waddell is the opposite! He loses an inch or two!

    • @caniswolf3394
      @caniswolf3394 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@averagejackarchery That happened to me after my 1st and 2nd Divorces!!!

  • @demacherius1
    @demacherius1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the Video.
    I found that I like it as low as it can go with my barebow. I have 31.5" Drawlengh so that maybe has something to do with it as you said.
    From my feeling high grips require aditional mussels that have to work in order to keep the joint aligned in the way you want it.

  • @robertminckler804
    @robertminckler804 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Today my dad got a vxr and we also got the ultraview grip and we both don’t like how the standard grip sits in our hand but we both are in love with the ultraview grip!

  • @CJLiveFromTheOutdoors
    @CJLiveFromTheOutdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude! You continue to teach me new and interesting information about archery. Thank you!

  • @chuck805
    @chuck805 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I could be wrong but it seems you're the only one explaining the importance of the wrist position. I just went and shot a few arrows...the arrows are almost straight in! The nock isn't off to one side when it hits the bag target. Thanks for that tip plus then paper tune? Geez those are great tips! Question...do people call you Jack? Keep the quality content flowing Jack. LOL I couldn't resist.

    • @averagejackarchery
      @averagejackarchery  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad it was helpful! And yes, I get Jack all the time even with the way I introduce myself in every video. LOL

  • @TheWVgoodguy22
    @TheWVgoodguy22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing this, I have never really paid attention to which one or the importance of grip angles. I have only ever had one compound bow or bow in general. That being a 2006 PSE Fire Flite 33 from Cabela's. It has a wooden grip as you mentioned. I believe I am more of a mid wrist grip, but will pay attention when I go shooting later today.

  • @rudyvidal26
    @rudyvidal26 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving your content I’m picking up a lot from your teachings

  • @greenhoodedvigilante458
    @greenhoodedvigilante458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:31 Although I prefer recurves, this bow looks funny.

  • @steve8828
    @steve8828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your videos. Keep them coming. This year I moved to a Torqueless High Wrist grip while playing with getting that perfect draw length. I have shot everything since the early 80’s. I notice now that cocking my wrist up with a low or mid grip isn’t as comfortable as it used to be. The high wrist is working for me. I am gripping, drawing, and anchoring very consistently. The Torqueless high wrist is not as radical as the high wrist grips of the past.

  • @timbow50
    @timbow50 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It surely makes a huge difference.

  • @foghole9449
    @foghole9449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When i was paper tuning had a hard time getting consistant perfect holes.Some was do to my bow needing a.ittle yoke tuning but for me the finishing touch was switching to a low grip. Can produce the same hole shot after shot, didnt realize how much it would help.(me)

  • @josephtreadlightly5686
    @josephtreadlightly5686 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! The grip is preferential but also probably the most important thing when choosing a compound bow these days. Like 30 years ago it was much more high wrist or mid-wrist. Not a good thing for a guy who has double jointed elbows. The original Mathews Ultra-light, Featherlite & Signature I shot pretty well but had to be much more aware of locking my elbow & using a mid-grip. But the custom wood grips designed by Mathew McPherson were excellent & I shot them pretty well. I had a custom Bighorn recurve that did not have the deep throat grip that Ben Pearson recurve has. Had a friend that had that bow & didn't like it. However these new bows with a low grip specifically the Prime's r ideal for the low grip. One thing u have to be aware of is putting too much pressure on the thick pad of your hand. As u push away u r pulling straight back but the grip wants to go to the left torque position. As u r drawing, not @ full draw when u hit the letoff & r able to just rest it in your hand with absence of any torque. The new Nexus 4 grip is very similar to the shape of the other recent Prime bows. But it has a very smooth draw cycle & less torque if u need to draw quickly as the target looks away so when u hit full draw u r naturally in a better anchor position. We all should be thinking of being more natural. Why fight gravity if u don't have to. It's also more enjoyable while giving yourself a much higher level of confidence. Shooting from a saddle up high is much more different than decades of shooting out of a fixed 🌳stand. Take advantage of the opportunities, don't make life harder than it needs to be.

  • @loganshannon7023
    @loganshannon7023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    nate i swear, i had no idea where im at, now id say around mid...been shooting for 9 years, still learning, thank you

  • @cyclespiff
    @cyclespiff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know what i am going to be trying tomorrow.

  • @stevenkaiser4897
    @stevenkaiser4897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you - excellent info!

  • @Mitten_Outdoors
    @Mitten_Outdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep it up bro thanks for all your help 🙏

  • @Calebott01
    @Calebott01 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great information!!!

  • @brycehiigel235
    @brycehiigel235 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. Great explanation.

  • @poppasmurf15
    @poppasmurf15 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    With my Elite Kure weirdly I have a lot of pressure up high. Probably more of a mid-high wrist. It concentrates the contact to a smaller area for me so I don’t torque. The best part about Elite is it’s narrow at the top now with the Kure/EnKore which has helped guys like me feel comfortable with what works for us. Some of the other guys basically give you a stick to put your hand on and it forces you into 1 grip…which kind of stinks….cough, cough Mathews Focus… cough, cough….

  • @ken244
    @ken244 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great advice Thanks

  • @geekaythedj7554
    @geekaythedj7554 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video!!

  • @robertjay1179
    @robertjay1179 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent content

  • @malthus101
    @malthus101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do recurve bow hunters tend to prefer?

  • @wanr5701
    @wanr5701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do notice that high wrist tend to work best with push out, straight, or extended bow arm. While medium to low wrist grip tend to work best with bend bow arm. Is this has something to do with the relative natural wrist position for any given bow arm form?

    • @averagejackarchery
      @averagejackarchery  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would agree! You'll also see a lot of guys with longer draws (30" and up) prefer low wrist as I, anecdotally, have had a lot of bows I outgrew in my youth but still had to shoot. Low wrist and bent arm meant I could function with a short draw length than what I should have. I think it's a semi-constant thing across us big dudes.

  • @jasoncourchaine3685
    @jasoncourchaine3685 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thanks

  • @jayjaymcmanis9230
    @jayjaymcmanis9230 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a 30-55 compound bow. Can I use a 340 spine arrow when it originally came with 500 spine

  • @zwiefel12
    @zwiefel12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've noticed sometimes bows can prefer different pressure depending on the bow.

  • @c.morganmccallister2396
    @c.morganmccallister2396 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @chrismacomber9727
    @chrismacomber9727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid brother keep it up...you still planing on taking that bright blue bow out for deer season ???

  • @robertjay1179
    @robertjay1179 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent

  • @6saturdaysaweekoutdoors
    @6saturdaysaweekoutdoors 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @johnschmit9903
    @johnschmit9903 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I just need to buy my new bow from the average jack 🤔 Time to make a trip to Pennsylvania 👍👍

  • @lorihamrick9349
    @lorihamrick9349 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought a new bow a few years ago and I have a problem with my wrist wobbling back and forth.
    Don't know how to fix it because I don't know why it is happening. Ever hear of this?

  • @libbybenedict
    @libbybenedict 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    FAB VIDEOOOOO

  • @stevekwait6221
    @stevekwait6221 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to know your take on cock vane position when using a drop rest(example qad). It seems there are different options. Vane up or vane horizontal or in between? Please give me your opinion.
    Thanks Steve

    • @averagejackarchery
      @averagejackarchery  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      All depends on fletch clearance. If allowable with the dropaway style, I'll go with the old school cock vane out instead of up. Gives more fletch clearance with all styles of bows and their cables.

    • @stevekwait6221
      @stevekwait6221 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@averagejackarchery thaks for your speedy reply

    • @jadem4893
      @jadem4893 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My opinion is get rid of the drop away and QAD specifically. Invest in a limb driven rest like Hamskea. I've never looked back. Hated my QAD!

  • @NWRN.
    @NWRN. ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any grips for a 2022 pse brunet NXT [left handed]

  • @HickLif3
    @HickLif3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it would be awesome if you got together with Jake Kaminski about some of this stuff. He's a 2 time olympic silver medalist but I think there would be a lot of carry over

    • @averagejackarchery
      @averagejackarchery  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have never shot any Olympic style recurves, but I never miss any of his videos!

    • @HickLif3
      @HickLif3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@averagejackarchery same! I recently crossed over from the firearms community and it’s common practice to mimic what the top competitors are doing, so I don’t see why it wouldn’t work for bows

  • @GawkerWeb
    @GawkerWeb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Long time viewer, first time caller, I have a question that isn’t related to the topic of the video itself.
    I notice that your blue target bow seems to be set up with your peep “stitched in” with what amounts to a pair of unconnected constrictor knots rather than setting the peep, tying it in at the center (at the peep) and then served in above and below in order to lock it into the string.
    Why would you choose this method of serving in a peep that, in my experience, is less secure and more apt to shift? When I stitch in a peep it is concrete and impossible to shift. It definitely takes longer but it can not be moved when I do it properly. I’m a newb I just want to learn from people smarter than me.

    • @averagejackarchery
      @averagejackarchery  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tie around the peep, and then one knot above, one knot below. Has always worked well as a standard for me and it doesn't move!

    • @GawkerWeb
      @GawkerWeb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@averagejackarchery thank you for responding. I’m too new I guess to trust that and use a continuous single knot that runs top to bottom, above and below, because I’ve seen too many times separate knots sliding. Must mean I need to learn how to stitch better. Thank you for answering my question.

  • @sahhull
    @sahhull 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I shoot all bow types, but Im concentrating n compound.
    I'm currently working on my grip and hand position.
    I'm having good success with the Paige Pearce method. She has a TH-cam channel with some good tips.

  • @chrississon2646
    @chrississon2646 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your vids , hurry up and make more

  • @rocknthamix
    @rocknthamix ปีที่แล้ว

    💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

  • @deathseller
    @deathseller 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx for the info it's a pity that's information is mostly relevant for compound shooters)

    • @averagejackarchery
      @averagejackarchery  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A bow is a bow is a bow. Check out Jake Kaminski's channel. Silver medalist. Knows his stuff when it comes to recurves and grip.

  • @bobcharkas3310
    @bobcharkas3310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please post your videos on Rumble

  • @rootjr.3658
    @rootjr.3658 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go back further in history and you'll see that a lot of trad bows in the 50's were low or mid wrist.

  • @Lost_Hwasal
    @Lost_Hwasal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You mentioned that target shooters don't use a high wrist grip and then showed a picture of an olympic archer, virtually every olympic archer uses a high wrist grip. Recurves don't have timing like compounds. Putting your palm into the bow is going to stress the bottom limb more and throw off the "timing" of your shot.
    Americans have low wrist longbows, they are called hill style longbows. People that shoot flat longbow (or recurves) have to cant the bow, so that they get proper arm alignment while maintaining a proper grip. Its the product of the limitation of not being able to glue on a handle that comes from selfbows.
    Saying that any particular grip is more consistent is BS, there are different grips for different styles. Brady ellison shoots a high/medium grip and can keep up with most compound guys. The Koreans are some of the best olympic archers in the world and they are all shooting high grips.

    • @averagejackarchery
      @averagejackarchery  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes.....like I talk about with literally a recurve bow and then show pictures of recurve shooters using a high wrist grip...You actually watch the video?

    • @Lost_Hwasal
      @Lost_Hwasal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@averagejackarchery I watched the whole thing, apparently it was a waste of my time as you don't know anything outside of compounds.

    • @shawncreel3156
      @shawncreel3156 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was an awfully long reply for nothing @Lost_Hwasal you probably should watch the video again!! You may have an easier time comprehending what he said the second time. Lol😂

    • @Lost_Hwasal
      @Lost_Hwasal ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shawncreel3156 speaking of replying for nothing. Do you normally reply to 2 year old comments?

  • @voxpopuli905
    @voxpopuli905 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How bout that guy recently won a bunch of tournaments that has no arms, and grips the bow with his foot

  • @toadamine
    @toadamine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I call the three, correct, lazy, and bad... 😂