Fujifilm X-S20 Video Creation Review, Compared to Sony
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2024
- Video testing review; zero photography. Touch to Focus, Menu screens, Dynamic Range, Stability Mode Tests, Battery Life & Overheat, Webcam Mode, Touch To Focus, Focus Testing, Comparisons to Sony Cameras & More
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0:00 Recording file types & Topics
2:52 Film Simulation Modes
4:07 Flog, HLG, Eterna Color graded
6:59 Sony ZV1 image quality Vs Fujifilm X-S20
8:43 Focus, Touch to Focus, Vlog Mode
16:12 Image Stabilization
19:06 Dynamic Range 100, 200 & 400
20:05 Cables against screen & Magnetic cable option
20:24 Video Quality, Vertical video, Open Gate
21:49 Dummy Battery, Overheating, webcam test
24:55 FujiFilm or Sony Camera Differences
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*FujiFilm X-S20 Camera, Long Term Experience Review*
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NOTE: In this video I reset to camera defaults, it is using the same external mic, yes default to camera with Sennheiser MKH50 best mic ever used becomes BAD. External built in microphone audio is shown when in the webcam footage BUT it doesn't crackle like you see set as a webcam. The built in audio certainly isn't good. I removed the really bad sounding internal mic audio completely by mistake.
To see what is included, such charging blocks, straps, cables etc check out my unboxing:
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Very good showcase of the xs20. I got this last week and recently shot with it. I'm soo impressed by it's compact form and video quality. Ibis not too bad either.👌
Thank you... I found sometimes that Dynamic range 400 can sometimes be useful when recording yourself or others in bright outside light for maintaining good exposure. If you look at my newest video for the AI tracking gimbal, when outside I am recording with DR400. Also found that the XF 33mm 1.4 WR lens has much better contrast when at 1.8 compared to fully open at 1.4 aperture.
Hello,
nice video! Thanks for it. Does subject detection works in slow motion videos? Like 100/120 and 200/240 fps? Or just autofocus without subject detection? Or just manual focus? :)
Subject detection worked on all high speeds that I tested. The only issue would be that any auto focus weaknesses at say 240fps is amplified by 8x or better said 8 times slower FPS is slow motion autofocus. Thank you for the question. This was literally my first time testing this mode right now. With my Sony I just turned the dial. My Sony camera I was using loses subject detection at HFR mode.
@@sparketech thank you very much for an answer :). Have a good day!
@@maxiguppy and thank you for asking. My Sony ZV1 loses focus and has a very limited time frame for recording. Think I will use this high speed feature at some point in time... It's questions like yours that help me learn other features. Can't wait till I get my new XLR adapter to improve the mic in camera audio and remove the need for an audio interface.
@@sparketech hah it is nice to have such microphone :). I'm using slow motion for wildlife. Some magical moments when watching birds can be recorded which usually are unnoticed in our slow pace world :)
@@maxiguppy Nice, hope to see more of that slow motion footage focused content. You're last few uploads appear to be a lot of speaking, I don't know your language but there will be a lot of people interested in seeing slow motion nature content. In terms of equipment I am making payments and taking on a lot of debt, I'll have to keep working long hours to pay it off. The new camera has helped video quality a lot, I found settings out of camera that look good without having to color grading. Wanted the best microphone so I no longer have to be bothered with audio that is sometimes has too much hiss or too much background noise. Right now if I record direct to camera the audio resolution drops and hiss is introduced and have to remove the hiss in post edit or record the audio to PC or recorder and replace in edit.
Uk viewer here great video got so much value from it! respect!
Thank you. There is more to learn from my newer video
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great review! thank you!
Thank you, I have a newer review as well that shows slow motion and auto focus and a few different things that I have done with this camera
th-cam.com/video/py80M5-rvXM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mKOy5uq0GQdsBo3i
Still watching now but wanted to mention it's refreshing to hear a review where someone understands the video codecs and what all intra means, etc unlike all the other reviews I heard :) - I guess Sony especially make it confusing with their own non industry standard terminology.
Thanks you. To be honest I had to research what all GOP and all intra meant and what the differences were. The webcam internal audio was painful... Was your internal audio bad?
My camera before the Fuji was the Sony, Olympus before, and before that I had always done video even 15 years ago with a Panasonic camera as an affordable option
Loving the new look. It is looking amazingly sharp compared to where it was. All the information I needed to know and more.
All the recent thumbnails since the unboxing on both channels are from out of camera footage which also look better.
Don’t you think if you’re planning on using the film sims straight out of camera for TH-cam you can use 8 bit color and 100 bit rate and it looks fine? I haven’t tested all the settings. I could see wanting to use higher quality ones for wildlife video in the future. I’m in the market for a computer late in the year or next year since I can’t use open gate on my iPad Pro 2020.
Yep 8 bit and 100Mbs rate is 100% fine for TH-cam, MP4 is the better format. Higher but rates and 10bit of for people that color grade and play with contrast. I am using 420 at 10bit colour at H265.
Good review. Content could have been shorter though and there are times that i feel that you’re just yapping. Nonetheless, good comparison!
I'm also using this camera. What sd card should I use to shoot 6.2k 4:2:2? I'm using Sony Tough m v60, and it keeps cutting off
I had no issues with my sd sandisk extreme pro rated at 300MBsbbut I suggest all GOP 200mbs and not exceeding 300Mbs cause memory cards except for the best of the best are going to have issues with all intra speeds of 360Mbs. V60 sounds a little slow, you should probably be using a V90.
@@sparketech Thank you for your quick reply. I understand :)
Are you sure it overheated in 1080p in webcam mode?
The camera changed it's own settings to 1080P 59.94 fps. So either the camera settings weren't showing correctly or it was indeed automatic changed itself to the 1080 60 fps. I tried 4k 25fps and the stupid camera auto changes itself to 30fps. Maybe I'll record later a video showing this stupidity using my Sony ZV1. This is mostly garbage as a webcam from my experience so far. And to be most exact it showed the red hot overheat icon after only about 14 minutes. Should have been 4k 60fps to get that hot.
Even older sony bodies create those files (A7III and A6300 for example), so they are not for catalyst. Also as far as I know the gyro data is actually inbeded in the metadata in the video file.
I can't even find a straight answer for these files. The most probable answer I found is this:
"The sole purpose of the XML file is to avoid the complexity in transferring the data files like libraries, media, projects from the Final cut pro X app to another application. It minimizes the difficulties in handling the export procedure of the edited media files."
Most modern programs probably have no real need for these XML files and I have never ever used them for anything. If we don't need the files why force create them? Sony at least have the option to disable them.
Historically these XML files are old pieces of info to speed play back and help read video file format information... Maybe old computers and old software have a use for these but modern programs and systems have no real use as far as I can see.
@@sparketech yup, and to be honest I don't see pleople buying 1000+ $ cameras to play back footage on legacy hardware anyway. The first thing I do after transfering files from memory cards is to type *.xml in the search bar and delete them all.
I am on a calibrated MSI monitor.
TO my this is how it looks like:
3:04 Velvia vivid = too pink. orange lipstick look.
3:10 Astia soft = too pink top head but likely due to the light behind you, and slight orange skin.
3:33 Pro Neg = looks like you have blue lighting.
3:33 Classic Neg = Orange, warm skin tone. like fake tan. orange lipstick.
3:43 Nostalgic looks too range too.
3:46 Eternia looks too pale
3:51 Breach bypass looks weird, so wrong.
4:19 First Color graded looks horrible, oversaturated. looks like you have a mix of red and lipstick on. Looks like your neck is tanned. while top of head and around the eyes is not that tanned.
5:08 Second Flog Color graded top of head looks more natural. but neck has a tan.
5:27 Flog2 with lut. more even, natural skin tone.
5:36 Flog2 color graded, overly saturated, too pink, tanned neck, beard area slight tan at the rest of the head.
6:11 HLG color graded, natural tan look.
Thank you for your thoughts... If you were seeing this orange even in Flog then it is your monitor colors. I don't notice in standard orange but pink ish yes I'd agree. Eterna is totally too pale 100% agree. I have standard I think looking better when using the HDR400... If you go to my other channel that I am writing you from I test an AI camera tracking gimbal and use it outside at HD400 to keep myself bright with the sun out, looks to me great until I open my pro lens to 1.4 and loose contrast and become whitish in standard film simulation mode.
@@sparketech Sorry, I seem to went bit too fast when editing that comment. You are right, it looks a bit pink, but oversaturated. Corrected my mistake.
@@sparketech I will check your other channel.
@@mtbboy1993 lol wasn't my other channel... I got confused with which channel I was on... I am often in a hurry myself, I work 10 hours per day as an electrician for 14 days straight at a time so it is rush rush rush. I am actually working on other tech related videos while working after working all day :p.
This is the same link I posted you on the other channel, with the cool AI tracking gimbal, that is my last video I released
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Wait, you cannot charge the fuji xs20 while having it as a webcam? 😮
Nope you can't... I have a newer long-term video I test the webcam thing with teams and show more stuff like slow motion auto focus.
I use a dummy battery these days and have "unlimited power" muhahaha:)
@@sparkestudio Ah so it works to use it as a webcam and use a dummy battery charging at the same time? 😃
@@Csgo-beast Heck no. A dummy batter does not "charge". I have a dummy battery that is plug into the wall but no matter what I found my audio was only good when using external audio not connected to the camera when intending to use as a webcam. I also do have a NP-F charging plate that I more recently have been using which is the best solution so far. I'll be making a future video on the best solutions.
@@sparkestudio Thanks for the answer 👍
Just wondering, would you recommend me to get the Sony a6700 or anything else in similar price range over the xs20?
@@Csgo-beast the Sony A6700 is more user friendly and Sony has the best auto focus in the industry. Their high end lenses are pricey especially if you want F1.2 or F1.4 for good background blur. I believe the X-S20 is going to beg better over time but you have more work arounds to deal with. Webcam and up close focusing are the biggest issues. If recording outside and at a distance from the camera the X-S20 has better battery life and better colors without having to lock down the lighting color.
Also you need to use digital stabilization with the body of the Fuji otherwise there is an odd jitter with fast movements. Use both to get a rather good stabilized look.
Use case is everything, I prefer not having work arounds so if I had to do it all again I might have gone Sony. Cause I like a proper webcam experience especially when using OBS which I can't do without an audio interface and a 50 millisecond delay that I state on my newer review video... In case you haven't seen it yet.
I cannot think of any other camera choice in this price range unless you were going more expensive.
If your worried about over heating on the Fuji you have an option for a fan. On the Sony, well I guess you could put it in the refrigerator.
LOL that's a cool idea 😁
The Sony ZV-E1 has a much more affordable cooler option, not made by Sony.
tilta.com/shop/cooling-system-for-sony-zv-e1-black/
FujiFilm X-S20 Camera, Long Term Experience Review
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8:28 They should add an option to disable these files when recording, delete them after if you did.
Totally agree. Sony should just make a turn off option for these files or a different folder where the video files don't get cluttered with other files like this.
@@sparketech I hope they are listening. Camera companies do weird things that don't make sense sometimes. Thank you for sharing these things. I don't know if other Sony cameras have this quirk. Like A7 IV and A6700.
@@sparketech I found a cheap second hand lens and a a7 IV, but a thing that bugs me a bit is that there no GPS on the camera, but Canon apparently has that. But good thing is you can make it work with an app via Bluetooth.
@@mtbboy1993 what do you use a GPS for? This X-S20 appears to have a GPU, it has that geotagging feature which I do not want that can be disabled.
@@sparketech The easy answer is of course to have pic show up on a map, know where I took the picture. I upload pics to Trailforks, a trail map for hiking, mountain biking, motorcycle trails, ski tracks..... It does what Strava does, but much more, and is an actual map with trails. So having the photo on the map, and know where it is is helpful. But I want the Geo tag to show where I took the pic in general. I do it on my phone, but sometimes it's way off, or it does not work due to lost signal. But It looks like there is an Sony app where I can connect the camera so camera writes the GPS info from the phone. According to the video I saw phone's and camera's battery won't be drained. I of course turn remove the GPS data from my photos if it's shot at home, or turn it off if I will shoot many photos.
27:11 Ear torture starts. Built in mic OBS test.
Great to see the focus is great if you use the right settings.
I am curious how it would do shooting sports. But I heard it does 8 fps, but Sony does 10. Weird Sony a6700 doesn't have dual sd card slots, but Fuji has.
16:46 The mic sounds horrible. Definitely need an external mic.
17:55 Colours look great, natural. stabilisation looks great too.
I see it's not waterproof. Shame. I wish it was.
This doesn't have dual SD slots... Sadly I never showed that... Almost off break at work so no time to check the time stamps. It has some water resistance but yeah not waterproof unlike their pro lens options.
@@sparketech Sorry. Tx-5 does, so I thought this one did. but I membered it wrong. you are right, it does not. I want something that can handle rain. I saw
Julia Trotti's review of Fujifilm X-S20, she mentioned she did a promo for Fuji where she took it out in the rain. But did not look like she put the camera trough pouring rain like it's been lately in Norway now. I want a camera to handle sudden poring rain. Of course I would avoid such weather but nice if a camera can handle it. Apparently OM systems/Olympus is waterproof. But i don't know if it actually is.
@@mtbboy1993 if you are looking at the M1 MKIII? I tested the M1 MKIII (same sensor same specs just the 3 has the faster processor) vs the Panasonic G85 and Sony ZV1 in my Sony ZV1 review years ago. The M1 MKIII is very dull (flat profile) looking image wise, the Sony ZV1 was actually an upgrade unless 10bit and the use of LUTs matter to you.
@@sparketech Looks like an unknown amount of E-M1 Mark III + 12-40mm f/2.8 Pro M.Zuiko Digital 12-40 mm PRO-lens is in stick, all other options are out of stock or on order only. and only one retailer. It has 4K i 30 fps, so that's a no for me. I want 4k 60. any lower and I notice it too much. 24 or 25fps is horrible to my eyes, but 30 is not as bad, but still notice it. 60fps is minimum for me. OM systems have a really bad website, really awful web design. Specs does not show specs. But according to retailers it shoots 4k 30fps, but 18 fps with continuous AF is nice. DP review says 3840 x 2160 @ 30p.
@@mtbboy1993 sony is pretty much where it's at. Think it was Nikon that more recently was pushing the frames and 8k resolutions.
Really great review, one of the best coverages, well done! - few small comments:
- Fuji does look way better than the Sony, why is Sony so hyper sharp? - maybe reducing sharpness in settings will help? - but 8-bit shows its limitations too.
- Fuji also creates garbage files but in a different directory called "activity" - at least the Sony ones could be useful in catalyst browse, no such option for Fuji :)
- For autofocus, it also worked great for me in good light with 1 subject, but in low light, or multiple subjects, forget it.
- When you show it focusing on itself as a camera, that's the autofocus failing. It thinks that's a person, it also sees people in brick walls, trees, etc - any non controlled environment the focus is sometimes hit and miss. It is pretty good in the studio now though, unlike previous bodies.
- VLOG mode’s annoying limitations is it constantly tries to go to 1/25s shutter, which mostly you would never want, I wish you could limit it to 1/50s minimum so it raises ISO instead.
- The DR400 looks unnatural, but it allows you to keep the shadow and highlight detail to adjust contrast in post (a form of HDR). With DR100/200 the information is lost forever (it’s like an easier version of FLOG1 without needing LUTs).
- Would be good to mention low dynamic range on the X-S20 compared to X-T5/X-H2/X-H2S of 12.1 vs 13.6, it’s a big difference showing the sensor’s age. Not an issue in a studio setting, but for travel, it’s a big downgrade, that's worse than micro 4/3.
- 50mbit is PLENTY for h265 if there’s no panning/big motion, as you show in your review :)
- For vertical, I would mention it’s so much easier to crop than Sony’s 4k. You don’t have to change the orientation of the camera to film both horizontal/vertical simultaneously.
Thank you for all the info and compliment... From one brick wall to another the camera needs some work (as it thinks we are brick walls lol)... Sony only annoyed me because the files are in the same directory as my main video files. I know those files are actually useful as I mentioned in the video. This video was an insane amount of work, probably spent a good 36 hours removing and adding stuff. It ended up about 19 minutes longer than I wanted it to be... Was more of an information of expectations.
There would be no need for me to mention low dynamic range compared to the other models of Fuji camera because I have not tested the other ones and cannot show or compare them. This is my first Fujifilm camera since I owned the X-S1 back in the day. It was a nice bridge camera with sharp image detail but also very dull colors and lifeless. I didn't like how I wasn't able to see my shutter speed in vlog mode, how did you manage to know? I was trying to figure out what shutter speed is causing my LEDs in my background to flicker.
I'm hesitant between the two cameras: Fuji XS20 and Sony a6700. Can somebody comment on their dynamic range difference and low light performance? I plan use it for landscape and concert photo and videography. From what is on paper, Sony uses BSI sensor while Fuji has CMOS. Theoretically Sony should be on top but I hear many support Fuji. I'm lost.
I found one specific advantage of the Fuji. It is great at getting accurate color tones without locking things down. I needed to set the color tones on my Sony to avoid color shifting with my Sony... at Least in video. Basically when I do videos in my studio Sony was color shifting with my background RGB lights. Fuji is actually better to let it do it's own thing. I almost find it easier just to use film simulation mode with my pro lens and be done with it.
Sony is better at handling crowds of people, so wedding footage on auto focus is a win for the Sony. Sony can stay locked on to a subject, X-S20 gets lost. This information comes from a viewer that was speaking to me that was a long time Fujifilm camera user that went from the X-S20 to the ZV-E1 which is nearly identical to the A6700 but is full frame compared to APS-C.
Quick movements with the Fujifilm X-S20 can result in some bad looking jitter in footage. I am going to re-review on my studio channel next week after I talk to Fujifilm on a Teams chat call about the bad webcam experience and about their auto focus for up close review content and see if I can find out some new updates coming while I am at it. I have not tested photography but Fujifilm cameras are highly sought after for that purpose.
I'll need Fuji users to add to this, because I don't have a personal hands on experience with the A6700. As for dynamic range I'd be "guessing" Sony beats Fuji for dynamic range at low ISO since the fuji certainly does not impress me at DR100 as I test and DR200 required 320 ISO min and DR400 ISO 640 and Log2 that has the most dynamic range is locked to ISO 1280 if I remember correctly. Video auto focus has been Sony's crown in the camera world for quite some time, fujifilm appears to be catching up slowly but certainly it is no Sony for video auto focus.
@@sparketech Great thanks for fast and extensive response! I plan to shoot nature and concerts. Dynamic range and color rendition is significant for me. I was concerned by the fact that Fuji still uses 4th generation xtrans sensor as in XT30 while Sony put BSI to their Sony a6700. There are no direct comparisons of these 2 cameras and if you do one I hope you will collect decent amount of views.
@@harry54ck problem is money. I have 2 TH-cam channels and I rarely get freebies. I would love to afford both but if I maxed out my visa and my line of credit I still couldn't get the A6700 with anything better than a kit lens... And I am still making payments every two weeks on the lens I am using for my camera and for the on camera audio interface from tascam. Spent $60,000 USD out of pocket since 2019 and that is despite every penny I ever made from this TH-cam thing. I go back to electrical training in January and have to pay for my training out of pocket. Just can't spend anymore and yes I have more accessories coming for the Fuji camera. I got connected by a full time creator wanting my help after he realized how good I can edit. I made several movies self edited, scripted and recorded myself. This is only one channel, all that stuff I reviewed microphones, tripods, lights, and more is nearly all self paid and I never ever accept money to do Reviews of products. This is called not bios, which in English is a play on words meaning not bias. Thank you for your support... If I get bigger more subs, people joining and supporting me I intend to invest nearly 100% but this out of pocket has got me in owing a lot of little to show
@@sparketech Oh no! I have never meant to be one of those just demanding and I didn't mean making you buy the camera. Try connecting with your audience and making videos together or lend a camera. This is what I see my local camera reviewers do. Also, you may connect with some local camera store. You may make an ad for that store but this has nothing to do with specific camera brand promotion. You are still unbiased but with lot of support and connections. Here is just the example of how the Canon guy living next street from me makes a comparison video review together with one of his subscribers that owns Panasonic S5 and G9. It is in russian but you may just enjoy the style and atmosphere. The video is called: Panasonic S5, Panasonic G9, Canon R5 - обсуждение и тесты с Русланом. You can not buy all the gear but you can connect with people!
@@harry54ck problem is where I live. There are zero camera stores. I live in a small town that is 7 and a half hours from any camera store. There is nothing I can do here sadly, I am on my own unless I move to a major city... Life has become too expensive to do that. If someone finds me here that gets that camera that would be cool. I am not as lucky as Gerald Undone that and Casey with camera conspiracies that lives in the big city and get free stuff to try. In fact, because I live 90% of offers I get becomes, oh we don't send there. Where I live a small ITX computer tower costs $150 to send. Major city $60 for the same thing. I need to move away if life hands the right cards to do so.
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