Yeah, I'd probably love it more if I didn't have to force myself to play slightly off-beat. The fun part of a rhythm game is getting in the groove and just letting the notes flow naturally, and that requires perfect note chart sync.
was a little sad that the game was just always out of sync, really got rid of some of the enjoyment i would've gotten from the game at least the music is good, so that alleviates the frustration
@@NiceWeebBro hopefully it's fixed at some point. the game was made quickly for a contest. this is why notes are out of sync, it has 20 mins of gameplay, week song transitions are awkward, etc.
@@crimson-foxtwitch2581 I've tried modding charts for this game. It's a fucking nightmare. No bpm changes, bpms over 250, no ability to place accurate swing notes, the fact that you have to edit existing charts otherwise it will crash if you try to add new files. I could talk about it for 10 solid minutes.
@@CrushedParagon I talked to a dev, and I don't think it's going to happen. FNF is built from a game jam game. That means that the features were built on top of spaghetti code, which means features are in danger of collapsing as soon as something goes wrong and the code needs to be debugged.
Biggest recent rhythm games boom has to be Beat saber though, no matter how small the VR scene is, it’s millions that have played BS and many more that know what it is..
Great analysis, definitely share the bittersweet sentiment here. I can only hope that this attracts at least a few people who would have normally not taken a closer look at rhythm games as a genre.
@@yukko_parra osu is outdated, ppy is shitty and needs to open source, plus literally any other way to play mania style games is better, see quaver or etterna.
@@ronanmiller8108 i can get the mania style games (i do like osu mania for visuals alone) But there is no other alternative to osu standard. There is no better PC aim rhythm game, and even stuff like McOsu is just... osu. although we can agree that combo is ridiculous.
Seeing the trend of Friday Night Funkin' reminds me about how rhythm games are still often seen as a novelty. But with the rise of these games I genuinely believe that rhythm games can make a comeback so long as we in the community keep that momentum going and begin to push other rhythm games while the hype is still there. It's actually kind of why I started to make videos on different rhythm games in the first place and why people should play them and your content is what pushed me to do this so I'll take this opportunity to say thank you and keep fighting the good fight.
It's important to take the right approach. Etienne did a very good job talking about FNF in a calm and respectful manner, and some people still act like he's gatekeeping. When trying to show casual players that there's a lot more to the game, it's important to keep in mind that they are CASUAL players - in layman's terms, they still suck. But telling them that is not the right approach. I've been making an effort to give players advice when they're struggling, even if it's on songs where I can't make logical sense as to why it would be difficult. SHowing them advice on how to improve, so they get better, and then showing them how much more is possible outside of FNF (stepmania, osu, quaver, ...) will make them a lot more likely to be interested in getting better. People who are really good at a video game often forget that it's not a common skill, especially cause they're usually surrounded by others who are just as skilled. It helps to think of it as trying to learn a new instrument. You wouldn't be able to pick up a guitar and strum perfectly if you had zero experience - you'd need some weeks, months, even years to learn it - it's the exact same for video games.
@@joao34386 smart comment, thank you for saying that like personally on Geometry Dash i've beaten Nine Circles but i still congratulate someone who beats xStep or Clutterfunk because it's an achievement _for them_, and i want the players to have fun if they just want to enjoy the game and not really pull off really high difficulty things
I think the biggest takeaway from this game's popularity is that attractive surface-level elements like visuals sell games 100x more than mechanical depth or quality. People like FNF because it has good music and good character designs, plus just enough "story" to give a little bit of extra personality to each character. For the majority of people playing and enjoying the game, the quality of the actual rhythm game mechanics are pretty much a non-factor. I mean, a lot of Guitar Hero's popularity came from a similar place back in the day, I think.
As a love letter to early newgrounds days? It does a excellent job (even thought 80% of the fanbase doesn't even know what newground is) As a rhythm game? Nah
I have a feeling when fnf eventually becomes more newgrounds like more nsfw stuff like that the fanbase will probally complain (Mostly the younger side)
The game devs said they didn't even expect the game would be trending. They just made it for laugh and gigs. Like now they prob be struggling on making more songs and I really hope they add some extra options cuz im not familiar with the controls. Also random question, how you not know Cory? haha
try the whitty mod, it has an options menu that enables you to change between WASD and DFJK, upscroll and downscroll (downscroll is kinda broke tho) and the new and old inputs
It’s really interesting to hear an actual rhythym gamer’s take on fnf, I had figured it wasn’t as deep in comparison to others. I’m nowhere near good at any rhythym games (best I can do is the love live mobile game lol) but it did draw me in to watching more rhythym game videos wich I hadn’t done in a long time
"It's like a rhythm game... Kinda like Dance Dance Revolution but you gotta like... Be on beat and everything." I'm hopeful that this becomes a copypasta but I'm also hopeful that it doesn't, if that makes any sense.
PIU is great. Wish it was easier for me to access though, there isn’t a machine in my city and I don’t have the money to make my own or buy a handmade pad.
That reminds me how I was kinda triggered at somebody (on their first playthrough) looked at FNF's 4K gameplay and said "This needs a dancepad!" Like, Stepmania did not last over at least a decade for you to say that, lol.
I think friday night funkin is popular because its so easy to get into, and not intimidating at all. Its a perfect alternative to the (from an outsider's perspective) super competitive and hardcore rythm games like beat saber and osu. on top of that, you have a lot of cool mods too, which really add a lot to the game.
The modding scene is quite active for FNF. With big TH-camrs like Dawko playing the mods. The SiivaGunner channel (known for their "high quality rips" of video games), have uploaded mods and showcased them.
I'm SO glad somebody else noticed how unsynced the game is! Given it's popularity, I was afraid I either never actually had rhythm, or was going insane That being said, it's def cool to see a rhythm game gain so much popularity, though I hope it inspires people to also try other games with more stability and depth to them
people play this game bc of the charming character designs and the banging music. i’ve never really been in the online rhythm game community but it’s a bit painful to see how many people gatekeep here. the video did a good explanation though
I think it's really cool that any rhythm game is getting mainstream popularity. It's possible that, however small a group, some of the people who play this may get more into more serious rhythm games. It would be great to see etterna, osu, etc. get more attention because of this. It's possible there are some players with extremely high potential who will have this as their gateway into rhythm gaming.
Imo there can only be a net positive, cause there's only 3 types of groups: The experienced players who know there's a lot to rhythm games, the unknowing players who don't know much and don't care, and those in the middle who don't know much but do care. That middle group is going to play FNF and get more interested in rhythm games as a whole, whereas the group of people that don't care in the first place won't move past FNF no matter what, so it's not like that's an overall loss.
No i dont think it can be a good thing at all Alll it will do is ruin the genre by becoming casual friendly just like fighting games and lost its identity
I think it might lead to people seeking more games like fnf and could potentially lead to a "new wave" of rhythm games. Its a very charming and simple game, it did what it set out to do and that's what lead to its success.
And fast input tend to be registered as simultaneous input by the hit detection which makes highly dense charts near impossible to pass? Correct if I'm wrong.
As a person who started rhythm gaming less than a year ago solely on FNF, a person who is now (finally) playing 22+ msd songs on etterna after hearing about the game a few months ago, and a person who still plays FNF multiple times weekly (albeit the very high quality roblox remake), FNF Good
Friday Night Funkin has some pretty catchy tunes. There's a pretty huge modding and remixing scene for this game apparently. Some of it is pretty high quality.
It really upsets me too see the fandom go this route. I’m glad fnf is getting more people into Rhythm games. I love fnf, it’s got a cool concept, characters, art, and music. Yet the fandom makes me want to vomit, so many people in the community like a mod about dementia and it honestly is really disrespectful. I also sorta have missed views on the modding community, I feel they can be repetitive, ya know the nice to angry thing that senpai did? I think one of the only mods to break this trend was the tricky mod, but other than that they seem to mostly be the same. Also you should check out the original charting for the sarvente mod. It’s horrid, yet for some reason the community forces people to play it in hard. I see this in a lot of Rhythm game community’s. People often will push beginners out of the game due to people saying they should stop playing for not having as much skill as others. I really really like this game, but honestly I don’t like where it’s going. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk
I can't remember how bad the charting in Mid Fight Masses was since it got deleted so i decided to download the song pack in Etterna with the exact charting, and it is really bad. I had to use the J1 mod and still can't seem to get an FC
I like what Friday Night Funkin is going for. Personally, I think if custom maps were added, and the game was made more foundationally stable, you could have a rap battle rhythm game, in essence. Maybe, you could quick match online, pitting your player character against another player's character using procedurally generated charts (of various approximate difficulties) against a backdrop of more generic beats. Players would be forced to sightread, and I think multiplayer would stay fresh.
coming back to this after the 3 year wait for the fnf road trip updates feels kinda nostalgic lol anyway yeah id say everything he said in this video was right .....except the longevity part, we're finally gonna have a lot of content!! also the inputs were finally fixed too, so thas cool.
just found this video now somehow. I started as a fiday night funkin rhythm gamer in may of 2021, it really got me into rhythm gaming because it felt way easier to approach and be able to actually play than the insane rhythm game clips I had seen before from DDR, clone hero, osu, etc. after a few months, when i got my muscle memory mostly down, i decided i wanted something more challenging than the base game + mods generally had to offer. This is how i found etterna and I've been addicted ever since. I've put a few hundred hours into this game and have gotten fairly decent (20.4 msd). I found your channel a couple months ago and started on and off watching your vids. Love the rhythm gaming content, it has introduced me to games like SDVX and helped me grow as a player.
Yeah Ettienne I agree with you completely, I just get very bored of the game very quickly and I don’t like the timing window at all especially for the hard difficulty where the scroll speed is extremely high and it’s very apparent when playing the game on the hardest available difficulty. And now all my friends at school are trying to act like they understand rhythm games to the same capacity as other rhythm game players like myself do (Ive played PIU for 2 years, Clone Hero for about half a year, Guitar Hero on and off, and a bit of 4 key stuff) and it’s very frustrating for me personally because there isn’t much depth to Friday Night Funkin and I wish my friends would try out rhythm games that offer more complexity, depth, content, nuances, technique, etc. than Friday Night Funkin. And they complain about Friday Night Funkin being difficult and they haven’t tried a single other rhythm game and refuse to because they only want to play Friday Night Funkin.
Something I'd like to counter with about the longevity of the game, the creators are kinda keeping the audience on a leash by adding new content pretty consistently (but never on schedule lol), and as you mentioned in the description, fan mods add a lot to that as well!
I hope it will bring new players to the rhythm games community, especially because it's on TikTok, so a lot of young people who have tons of free time might be interested, we might see a new mrekk on Etterna or other rhythm games because of this game lol
I was just disappointed by how impossible the game is to play on pads. For something using the arrow aesthetic and claiming DDR Pads as a valid input, I had to download a custom build to fix the offset, use Joy2Key to get inputs and then there's no thoughts put to stepping on any difficulty and ghost tapping costs which sucks. So now I just play the songs on Stepmania.
please more content like this! I absolutely love your videos man, I haven’t seen a rhythm game content creator like you. your insightful, fully thought out commentary and charming personality is super entertaining to watch. keep being awesome man, you inspire me a lot ❤️
@El Colas Yeah, and from what Ive seen, non-players usually consider DDR MUCH EASIER than GH, probably because they usually only rely on note quantity for difficulty
@El Colas Yeah a friend saw me playing taiko and mania once and said that taiko was very easy because there are not many notes and it's slow. He was surprised when I told him for around the same level in both (about 5-6*), I have twice the playtime in taiko vs mania
I originally started out with FNF. When it became trendy and week 5 came out, I downloaded it and started playing. I have a love hate relationship with this game. It introduced me to rhythm games and my current hobby, but at first gave me some very bad habits like not going for accuracy but for mainly combos. I don't think many people latched onto other rhythm 4 panel/key rhythm games because of the low accessibility and hard set up part of them, as you mentioned in this video. I'm honestly surprised that I'm here now playing ITG at a decent level because of a short-lived flash rhythm game that didn't even focus on the rhythm game part of it at all.
I feel like Friday Night Funkin' could be seen as both positive and negative, and what I mean by that is I feel like a lot of people are gonna think a lot of rhythm games are going to be like Friday Night Funkin', yet there's so many differences in every rhythm game and I feel like if people were to get used to what Friday Night Funkin' is like, they may get discouraged by other rhythm games. Yet, on the other hand Friday Night Funkin' could be a positive impact on rhythm games. The reason I believe this is because Friday Night Funkin' has a lot of players who are new to rhythm games, and most likely Friday Night Funkin' is their first. The positive result of this is the fact that Friday Night Funkin' may get a lot of people on to other games such as Etterna, Taiko, Osu!, etc. Which could lead to a new wave of interesting players and a lot of other things. I myself had never played a rhythm game until I played Friday Night Funkin'. Yet, after finishing the game, I was immediately hooked to rhythm games and started playing games like Osu!, Taiko, Stepmania, etc. All of which were very entertaining and I still play to this day. So overall, I feel like it just depends on how Friday Night Funkin' could affect the player, it could go both ways.
I can strongly agree with your opinions. I just think for me personally is the i still think it's a music game either way. I know it's doesn't have the essentials what it should have to be considered a music game, but it got the barebones to be still what is a rhythm game. From playing music games probly everyday it's really amazing to see my friends that have never touched a rhythm game loving it! It's just the recognition that makes me smile about they like something out of the rhythm game generé. Overall it was a fun time playing it here and there just to find something to do with friends, i think it lead up to the hype for the community to stay there for a while.
yeah I'm glad they fixed the input system and charting in the week 7 update. all of your criticisms are fair and true, and the game is a lot better now.
Most people who chart FNF have never heard or played rhythm games before, so it can make sense why they're overcharted. We can give them constructive criticism and recommend them other rhythm games.
Well just about four years later, and it's proven FNF actually has legs. And to be fair, a lot of that is from all the community-created content that's popped up around it (and said community has an absolute _truckload_ of drama within it), but even the base game has improved dramatically from those early days. As someone who considers himself a rhythm game veteran (started with FFR in 2005 and kept going since with stuff like StepMania), I'm actually really happy to see FNF act as an ambassador to get rhythm games back into the mainstream after the big crash around the turn of the 2010s, and the amount of genuine talent and creativity on display in mods and even the base game nowadays makes it a worthy addition to the genre in my opinion.
Coming back to this video after a year, and also after reading WIRED's article about the rise of Indie Rhythm Games including this one.. I say that the concept for Friday Night Funkin' is not really skill-based, (though functionality is a must. They actually fixed the input system at the Week 7 update) but rather returning to the genre's roots which is about music and charm. Remember PaRappa The Rapper from the PlayStation? It did not really start off as a hard-ass Rhythm Game, but people loved the game because it has interesting stuff, not only on the mechanics, but also the concept of it which inspired Funkin'. The concept of modern rhythm games not focusing much on skill-based rhythm but revamping mechanics, adding interesting gimmicks, and adding in story like Funkin' did (except the mechanics. Mechanics is still DDR/StepMania) also implies to other rhythm indie games like ADOFAI, Muse Dash, Sayonara Wild Hearts, Wandersong, and Rhythm Doctor. In terms of difficulty for the likes of elitists, you might pretty sure be fond of Rhythm Doctor because as the game progresses, songs get harder and harder, not relying much anymore on a fixed time signature, but irregular time signatures, and tokaku also said while playing it that the hit window feels so strict. These games are really well known especially Rhythm Doctor and Funkin' (obviously). For people who want to read the article, here's the link. It also talks not only about FNF, but a summarized history of the genre 2 decades ago and the new format of indie rhythm games that were released last decade ago. www.wired.com/story/rhythm-games-indie-comeback/
FnF is the rhythm game that re introduced me to rhythm games since... tap tap revenge and paino tiles, I played it, thought it was pretty fun, coming back to the game once in a while to see if I can improve my score, and 2-4 months later and I am playing osu! mania, how did I get here? But yeah, FnF is a positive for rhythm games, since some people might try other rhythm games like osu, etterna, quaver, etc, but that's just my opinion
After getting good and MFCing all of fnf’s main songs and a lot of the mods for the game, I’ve started playing Osu mania to keep improving my skills. I’m really enjoying it. And for anyone saying Friday night funkin isn’t bringing in new rhythm game players, it most definitely is :D
I kinda hate to admit that FNF got me back into playing rhythm games... I started out as a simple Project Diva player, but when the FNF prototype was first released, I played that and was like "Meh, not really the best game" and then it got popular and I was like "Maybe I will give it a second chance..." and now I'm at player level 128 in Muse Dash and I'm never gonna stop rhythm gaming!
9:00 oh! you've probably gotten comments on this before but the yelling basically symbolizes hype or being hyped for something like ur favourite song coming on!
They have to do it with WASD. Also the game has weird note detection if you try to tap other notes while any of the keys are being held down. If a standard player looked at this though, they’ll probably just think: “Psssh, amateurs.”
As a person who started seriously playing mania for almost 2 years, starting out playing 2* with no vsrg experience is really hard so i couldnt really blame them
The biggest issue I have with this game is that sometime it drops your inputs when the notes get fast like he said in the video and it makes it annoying to try and perfect a song, which I still find to be an issue while using the improved “Kade Engine”, but at that point it might just be note desync.
It’s 90% sure that dashie means that it’s like ddr but you use a keyboard ( as you can tell by his hand gestures) and, just to add, it’s common for dashie to make some silly mistakes while talks
My main problem with the game is the hitreg/input system. Can someone please tell me im not the only one who has notes miss despite clearly hitting them?
As someone who really likes this game I think the main attractions are the art style,character designs,and modding! The game has a very cute and visually appeling art style opposed to most other rhythm games which tend to be pretty lacking when it comes to the art,along with that the character cameos from very popular newground characters like Pico (from pico's school) the Kids from spooky month,Tankman,ect help boost it's popularity also,Along with that fact that it's open source makes it really easy to mod and add your own unique characters and music...but at the end of the game yea as a stand alone rhythm game it could be much better.
It's also very accessible, mainly due to it's very low difficulty - casual players don't have the reflexes or motor skills to keep up with anything that's above average, so having something as easy as FNF is automatically more appealing, especially when the "hardest" song in the game is beatable pretty easily it lets them feel like they're the best of the best because they don't know about the genre outside of their FNF bubble.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed how out of sync the notes were
Yeah, I'd probably love it more if I didn't have to force myself to play slightly off-beat. The fun part of a rhythm game is getting in the groove and just letting the notes flow naturally, and that requires perfect note chart sync.
i don't know if it's just me, but in my experience the notes were pretty in sync for me
was a little sad that the game was just always out of sync, really got rid of some of the enjoyment i would've gotten from the game
at least the music is good, so that alleviates the frustration
@@NiceWeebBro hopefully it's fixed at some point. the game was made quickly for a contest. this is why notes are out of sync, it has 20 mins of gameplay, week song transitions are awkward, etc.
Oh… I thought my pc is just so bad that it lags the hell out and makes it out of sync.
Alternate title: Etienne Struggles to Understand TikTok
lol
when you go back in time
im sorry you had to go through that
nobody understands tiktok
Also there is the death of Flash to be aware of, which is a big factor in this game’s popularity.
fnf does an amazing job with everything except the rhythm game part imo.
i’ve seen other people agree upon the idea that the game engine doesn’t know what it’s doing
I wholeheartedly agree on that
@@crimson-foxtwitch2581 I've tried modding charts for this game. It's a fucking nightmare. No bpm changes, bpms over 250, no ability to place accurate swing notes, the fact that you have to edit existing charts otherwise it will crash if you try to add new files. I could talk about it for 10 solid minutes.
Yeah if they get someone to overhaul the rhythm part this game could be extremely good
@@CrushedParagon I talked to a dev, and I don't think it's going to happen. FNF is built from a game jam game. That means that the features were built on top of spaghetti code, which means features are in danger of collapsing as soon as something goes wrong and the code needs to be debugged.
gonna say it now: people don't like the game for the rhythm game elements. they like it for the characters and the music
And just because it's trending, people will play it. They be like : tHiS gAme iS fRoM tiktok
@@supercorn5607 even the creators said: it's not a tiktok, twitter, itch.io, youtube or whatever else game, it's a newgrounds game
Not everyone is like that tho? I like both character music, and care for rhythm game elements and wanted it to improve
They probably heard of it because of Cory
funi
I’ll admit I started playing it because of Cory, but I stuck to it because I genuinely think it will improve and I love the music
Biggest recent rhythm games boom has to be Beat saber though, no matter how small the VR scene is, it’s millions that have played BS and many more that know what it is..
That's also true! I knew the game took off, but after looking a little bit, you're definitely right on that.
@@Cobalt985 it doesnt have timing based scoring it has scoring based on the way you hit the blocks
@@diblllll Shit so that's why adjusting my timing isn't working. Lol
@@Cobalt985 yeah, you want to be swinging at the blocks at large angles and hit the center of them
@@Cobalt985 100 points from full swing, 15 points for hitting the block in middle.
Imagine in the near future some people would be saying things like 'I originate from Friday Night Funkin', oh what's a stepmania?'
😬
At least it’ll make my useless skill more impressive.
glad i can say i originated from some wii guitar game
Hey, they got introduced to rhythm games, that's good right?
@@joeplavin Based. We need more people like you.
I came from fnf but i realized i liked it bc of the rhythm game aspect and switched to quaver
Great analysis, definitely share the bittersweet sentiment here. I can only hope that this attracts at least a few people who would have normally not taken a closer look at rhythm games as a genre.
true
maybe this new generation will finally play osu! correctly
@@yukko_parra hopefully not because osu is garbage
@@ronanmiller8108 ?
@@yukko_parra osu is outdated, ppy is shitty and needs to open source, plus literally any other way to play mania style games is better, see quaver or etterna.
@@ronanmiller8108
i can get the mania style games (i do like osu mania for visuals alone)
But there is no other alternative to osu standard. There is no better PC aim rhythm game, and even stuff like McOsu is just... osu.
although we can agree that combo is ridiculous.
Seeing the trend of Friday Night Funkin' reminds me about how rhythm games are still often seen as a novelty. But with the rise of these games I genuinely believe that rhythm games can make a comeback so long as we in the community keep that momentum going and begin to push other rhythm games while the hype is still there. It's actually kind of why I started to make videos on different rhythm games in the first place and why people should play them and your content is what pushed me to do this so I'll take this opportunity to say thank you and keep fighting the good fight.
It's important to take the right approach. Etienne did a very good job talking about FNF in a calm and respectful manner, and some people still act like he's gatekeeping.
When trying to show casual players that there's a lot more to the game, it's important to keep in mind that they are CASUAL players - in layman's terms, they still suck. But telling them that is not the right approach.
I've been making an effort to give players advice when they're struggling, even if it's on songs where I can't make logical sense as to why it would be difficult. SHowing them advice on how to improve, so they get better, and then showing them how much more is possible outside of FNF (stepmania, osu, quaver, ...) will make them a lot more likely to be interested in getting better.
People who are really good at a video game often forget that it's not a common skill, especially cause they're usually surrounded by others who are just as skilled. It helps to think of it as trying to learn a new instrument. You wouldn't be able to pick up a guitar and strum perfectly if you had zero experience - you'd need some weeks, months, even years to learn it - it's the exact same for video games.
@@joao34386 smart comment, thank you for saying that
like personally on Geometry Dash i've beaten Nine Circles but i still congratulate someone who beats xStep or Clutterfunk because it's an achievement _for them_, and i want the players to have fun if they just want to enjoy the game and not really pull off really high difficulty things
Excuse me while I attempt to Mod Soulless 4 into the game
people are already putting meme songs in the game, so it's 100% possible
friday night nerves
@@The_Vanni they will be imagined
the funny song
hell?
i was playing arcaea and my friends compared it piano tiles on crack
that actually makes me sad
@@alastair5146 it hurts
my friends call osu!mania guitar hero on keyboard lmao
@@alastair5146 how that's funny though
that happened to me what the fuck
I think the biggest takeaway from this game's popularity is that attractive surface-level elements like visuals sell games 100x more than mechanical depth or quality. People like FNF because it has good music and good character designs, plus just enough "story" to give a little bit of extra personality to each character. For the majority of people playing and enjoying the game, the quality of the actual rhythm game mechanics are pretty much a non-factor. I mean, a lot of Guitar Hero's popularity came from a similar place back in the day, I think.
As a love letter to early newgrounds days? It does a excellent job (even thought 80% of the fanbase doesn't even know what newground is)
As a rhythm game? Nah
I have a feeling when fnf eventually becomes more newgrounds like more nsfw stuff like that the fanbase will probally complain
(Mostly the younger side)
The game devs said they didn't even expect the game would be trending. They just made it for laugh and gigs. Like now they prob be struggling on making more songs and I really hope they add some extra options cuz im not familiar with the controls.
Also random question, how you not know Cory? haha
try the whitty mod, it has an options menu that enables you to change between WASD and DFJK, upscroll and downscroll (downscroll is kinda broke tho) and the new and old inputs
Wasn’t the game literally developed in a weekend lol
@@mateuszodrzywoek8658 ballistic is a really bad map tho. Too much jack spam
@@vulfura that’s the point though, ballistic is supposed to be hard just for the sake of being hard
@@lolwat8607 after learning About Jack maps and dump maps you could argue its one those
It’s really interesting to hear an actual rhythym gamer’s take on fnf, I had figured it wasn’t as deep in comparison to others. I’m nowhere near good at any rhythym games (best I can do is the love live mobile game lol) but it did draw me in to watching more rhythym game videos wich I hadn’t done in a long time
Dude every time I see that Carly Rae Jensen hoodie it inspires me to get my life together
10:58 Don't mind him, It's just Dashie things.
every time i see this hoodie I have keyboard review flashbacks lol
He only owns one hoodie
"It's like a rhythm game... Kinda like Dance Dance Revolution but you gotta like... Be on beat and everything."
I'm hopeful that this becomes a copypasta but I'm also hopeful that it doesn't, if that makes any sense.
@El Colas I guess? It's more a case of "Copypastas are funny, but they tend to be overused and become annoying." kind of deal.
@@RemerkulTheFlyingCow So it's like the 'Truly disgusting shit' from Schaltt situation lmao.
Guitar Hero for feets. I listened this phrase many times here in Brazil while playing PIU lmao
That is the worst explanation of the game.
FFR but barebone is more accurate imo
PIU is great. Wish it was easier for me to access though, there isn’t a machine in my city and I don’t have the money to make my own or buy a handmade pad.
Thank goodness I wasn't the only one who noticed that the inputs were being dropped. I thought I was just being really bad
Same
fnf fans really be saying fnf will become a "ddr arcade machine"
@El Colas hello gay
@El Colas As someone who spent 16 years playing pad... for the love of god just no
can you name one person that said that please? or you're just making people up to insult at
@@Northgical i think he said it to be funny, and i laugh cuz it was funy
That reminds me how I was kinda triggered at somebody (on their first playthrough) looked at FNF's 4K gameplay and said "This needs a dancepad!" Like, Stepmania did not last over at least a decade for you to say that, lol.
I honestly regret not playing rhythm games much earlier.
Thanks to FNF I started my journey to rhythm games.
"dance dance revolution, but you gotta be on beat"
I think friday night funkin is popular because its so easy to get into, and not intimidating at all. Its a perfect alternative to the (from an outsider's perspective) super competitive and hardcore rythm games like beat saber and osu. on top of that, you have a lot of cool mods too, which really add a lot to the game.
Yeah the mods are the main reason this game is still going strong
No im pretty sure its just the big youtube influencers that are making a video about this cause their friends told em about it
Touhou music ❤️
touhou music is not even music, it's art
@@saberbestgirl20 Fax no printers, touhou music is music²
@@katgen3561 "if music is so good, why isn't there- oh"
@@saberbestgirl20 Touhou is beyond human understanding
nights of nights hits diff
The modding scene is quite active for FNF. With big TH-camrs like Dawko playing the mods.
The SiivaGunner channel (known for their "high quality rips" of video games), have uploaded mods and showcased them.
bean
@@thatoneguy9582 beans
@@thatoneguy9582 bruh
I'm SO glad somebody else noticed how unsynced the game is! Given it's popularity, I was afraid I either never actually had rhythm, or was going insane
That being said, it's def cool to see a rhythm game gain so much popularity, though I hope it inspires people to also try other games with more stability and depth to them
The 3ds taiko games had a better storyline
now on switch!
Or even project diva and deemo, cytus. They has a more better story.
RHYTHM HEAVEN DID IT BETTER
FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS ME
i didnt undesrtand anything of japanese, so i would say its a masterpiece
people play this game bc of the charming character designs and the banging music. i’ve never really been in the online rhythm game community but it’s a bit painful to see how many people gatekeep here. the video did a good explanation though
yee- one of the reason why I kinda quit Osu and other rhythm games- too much gatekeep for me to handle "xD
I think it's really cool that any rhythm game is getting mainstream popularity. It's possible that, however small a group, some of the people who play this may get more into more serious rhythm games. It would be great to see etterna, osu, etc. get more attention because of this. It's possible there are some players with extremely high potential who will have this as their gateway into rhythm gaming.
Imo there can only be a net positive, cause there's only 3 types of groups: The experienced players who know there's a lot to rhythm games, the unknowing players who don't know much and don't care, and those in the middle who don't know much but do care.
That middle group is going to play FNF and get more interested in rhythm games as a whole, whereas the group of people that don't care in the first place won't move past FNF no matter what, so it's not like that's an overall loss.
I got into rhythm games with fnf
No i dont think it can be a good thing at all
Alll it will do is ruin the genre by becoming casual friendly just like fighting games and lost its identity
@@trigunn3414 please demonstrate that this has actually happened with fighting games.
I think it might lead to people seeking more games like fnf and could potentially lead to a "new wave" of rhythm games. Its a very charming and simple game, it did what it set out to do and that's what lead to its success.
the reason inputs felt like they randomly dropped is because you can't press an arrow while holding another one
it is dumb
WHAT??? I thought that was just my keyboard was being dumb... what purpose does that mechanic even serve? (if not a technical issue)
And fast input tend to be registered as simultaneous input by the hit detection which makes highly dense charts near impossible to pass? Correct if I'm wrong.
@@Kasser_KSR To stop mashing most likely
As a person who started rhythm gaming less than a year ago solely on FNF, a person who is now (finally) playing 22+ msd songs on etterna after hearing about the game a few months ago, and a person who still plays FNF multiple times weekly (albeit the very high quality roblox remake), FNF Good
I want MC MENTAL @ HIS BEST on Friday night funkin' so it should be better
much better prolly in stepmania.
someone converted goddamn delta dan into this game so its definitely possible
There's MC Mental mod on Friday night funkin lmao
@@กุ๊กไก่กุ๊กไก่-ม8ถ It's just straight up awful ig so
Friday night funkin has a thriving modding scene, that also helps it get spread around.
Friday Night Funkin has some pretty catchy tunes.
There's a pretty huge modding and remixing scene for this game apparently. Some of it is pretty high quality.
It really upsets me too see the fandom go this route. I’m glad fnf is getting more people into Rhythm games. I love fnf, it’s got a cool concept, characters, art, and music. Yet the fandom makes me want to vomit, so many people in the community like a mod about dementia and it honestly is really disrespectful. I also sorta have missed views on the modding community, I feel they can be repetitive, ya know the nice to angry thing that senpai did? I think one of the only mods to break this trend was the tricky mod, but other than that they seem to mostly be the same. Also you should check out the original charting for the sarvente mod. It’s horrid, yet for some reason the community forces people to play it in hard. I see this in a lot of Rhythm game community’s. People often will push beginners out of the game due to people saying they should stop playing for not having as much skill as others. I really really like this game, but honestly I don’t like where it’s going.
Thanks for coming to my Ted talk
I have never seen anyone pushing beginners out of the game for not having enough skill.
the “like a mod about dementia” part reminds me of the gacha life community.
I can't remember how bad the charting in Mid Fight Masses was since it got deleted so i decided to download the song pack in Etterna with the exact charting, and it is really bad. I had to use the J1 mod and still can't seem to get an FC
I love dashie but that comparison was so dumb 😂
Yeah dashies videos are good lol that was dumb though
Im sure he could articulate his description more but he said fuck it lmao
I like what Friday Night Funkin is going for. Personally, I think if custom maps were added, and the game was made more foundationally stable, you could have a rap battle rhythm game, in essence. Maybe, you could quick match online, pitting your player character against another player's character using procedurally generated charts (of various approximate difficulties) against a backdrop of more generic beats. Players would be forced to sightread, and I think multiplayer would stay fresh.
@@fofo-ms6ck some of that’s added now but not the custom charts cause u still gotta mod em in
To make the chart editor really good, they should have each note able to have their own individual speeds.
@@fofo-ms6ck they added downscroll in the newest update but I 100% agree with you
I always get so happy when u upload it's insane
He speaks facts and i find it halarious that he reviewed Dashie.
coming back to this after the 3 year wait for the fnf road trip updates feels kinda nostalgic lol
anyway yeah id say everything he said in this video was right
.....except the longevity part, we're finally gonna have a lot of content!! also the inputs were finally fixed too, so thas cool.
So Parappa the RAppa with a flash art style? lol
people are doing Parappa mods in the game too, so you're not wrong
Yea thats immediately who I thought of
parappa the rapper is a better rhythm game than FNF will ever be
Except this game has weird controls that I guess I don't mind.
@@cryoatix :(
I think the reason why people like this is a combination of music, it has a lot of character and that newgrounds nostalgia
I cant believe Etienne became a reaction channel
the best part about this game is that the music is catchy af and the visuals make you want to jam out. b-side remixes make it even better
i may get cancelled for this, but imo the only good remix of bsides are spookez and cocoa
@@nicoreii cocoa is definitely the best remix so you ain't wrong
One thing I like about Ettiene is that he doesn’t have a script, he kinda just goes with what the topic is about
just found this video now somehow. I started as a fiday night funkin rhythm gamer in may of 2021, it really got me into rhythm gaming because it felt way easier to approach and be able to actually play than the insane rhythm game clips I had seen before from DDR, clone hero, osu, etc. after a few months, when i got my muscle memory mostly down, i decided i wanted something more challenging than the base game + mods generally had to offer. This is how i found etterna and I've been addicted ever since. I've put a few hundred hours into this game and have gotten fairly decent (20.4 msd). I found your channel a couple months ago and started on and off watching your vids. Love the rhythm gaming content, it has introduced me to games like SDVX and helped me grow as a player.
Yeah Ettienne I agree with you completely, I just get very bored of the game very quickly and I don’t like the timing window at all especially for the hard difficulty where the scroll speed is extremely high and it’s very apparent when playing the game on the hardest available difficulty. And now all my friends at school are trying to act like they understand rhythm games to the same capacity as other rhythm game players like myself do (Ive played PIU for 2 years, Clone Hero for about half a year, Guitar Hero on and off, and a bit of 4 key stuff) and it’s very frustrating for me personally because there isn’t much depth to Friday Night Funkin and I wish my friends would try out rhythm games that offer more complexity, depth, content, nuances, technique, etc. than Friday Night Funkin. And they complain about Friday Night Funkin being difficult and they haven’t tried a single other rhythm game and refuse to because they only want to play Friday Night Funkin.
Well at least u can beat them at their own game right ;)
They think Friday Night Funkin' is hard. Check hardcore players on Stepmania, Clone Hero, osu!, etc.
The only reason why this game is still going is how easy it is to mod. In short the community is almost doing all the work lol
@@doritolegend9664 There will be hard charts existed like Soulless 5 already did in fnf.
@@nabedesu7708 True. Hardcore stepmania players can just be them in a flash.
The TikTok segment made me question how zoomers can use that site
We are stupid that's it.
vapid media spoonfed through an algorithm designed to keep users on the app for as long as possible. thats how
@@taggerung_ can we add "neglectful parenting that decided to have the internet be the babysitter" to that list as well?
I thought it was used ironically and to bully people back in 2018 but now mfs are actually using it. yuck 🤮
@@plscometomychannel1007 Same here. I miss those days, man.
Something I'd like to counter with about the longevity of the game, the creators are kinda keeping the audience on a leash by adding new content pretty consistently (but never on schedule lol), and as you mentioned in the description, fan mods add a lot to that as well!
updates every friday
on time every time
I hope it will bring new players to the rhythm games community, especially because it's on TikTok, so a lot of young people who have tons of free time might be interested, we might see a new mrekk on Etterna or other rhythm games because of this game lol
@Vibin' :)
I was just disappointed by how impossible the game is to play on pads. For something using the arrow aesthetic and claiming DDR Pads as a valid input, I had to download a custom build to fix the offset, use Joy2Key to get inputs and then there's no thoughts put to stepping on any difficulty and ghost tapping costs which sucks.
So now I just play the songs on Stepmania.
People getting back to rhythm games is a good start
I thought it was a nostalgic thing with flash games recently being removed. The style of it really reminds me of it.
please more content like this! I absolutely love your videos man, I haven’t seen a rhythm game content creator like you. your insightful, fully thought out commentary and charming personality is super entertaining to watch. keep being awesome man, you inspire me a lot ❤️
Wait until normies find out about stepmania
r/Stepmania is about to get flooded with "hey guys how do I play the friday night funkin songs????????" lmao
@@ephemera-noctourniquet that sounds like cancer
"This game sucks, it only has 3 songs."
@@KudosK42 calm before the storm
"a game I really like becoming popular? oh no!"
i honestly hope this game blows up more, just so that the playerbase for rhythm games could increase
"Guitar hero for your feet" has gotta be the best way to describe a vsrg I've ever heard. Those people are absolute geniuses
Its always compared to guitar hero XD
@El Colas The weird thing is DDR is very well known so its weird people compare VSRGS to GH instead of DDR lol
@El Colas Yeah, and from what Ive seen, non-players usually consider DDR MUCH EASIER than GH, probably because they usually only rely on note quantity for difficulty
@El Colas Yeah a friend saw me playing taiko and mania once and said that taiko was very easy because there are not many notes and it's slow. He was surprised when I told him for around the same level in both (about 5-6*), I have twice the playtime in taiko vs mania
3:16 nice little Dunkey reference for those who didn't catch it
its because they're busy being nitpicking and biased! i win bye bye
the game is made so poorly it got me into Etterna lol
I like how Etterna is literally the opposite of fnf in every single aspext
I originally started out with FNF. When it became trendy and week 5 came out, I downloaded it and started playing. I have a love hate relationship with this game. It introduced me to rhythm games and my current hobby, but at first gave me some very bad habits like not going for accuracy but for mainly combos. I don't think many people latched onto other rhythm 4 panel/key rhythm games because of the low accessibility and hard set up part of them, as you mentioned in this video. I'm honestly surprised that I'm here now playing ITG at a decent level because of a short-lived flash rhythm game that didn't even focus on the rhythm game part of it at all.
I feel like Friday Night Funkin' could be seen as both positive and negative, and what I mean by that is I feel like a lot of people are gonna think a lot of rhythm games are going to be like Friday Night Funkin', yet there's so many differences in every rhythm game and I feel like if people were to get used to what Friday Night Funkin' is like, they may get discouraged by other rhythm games. Yet, on the other hand Friday Night Funkin' could be a positive impact on rhythm games. The reason I believe this is because Friday Night Funkin' has a lot of players who are new to rhythm games, and most likely Friday Night Funkin' is their first. The positive result of this is the fact that Friday Night Funkin' may get a lot of people on to other games such as Etterna, Taiko, Osu!, etc. Which could lead to a new wave of interesting players and a lot of other things. I myself had never played a rhythm game until I played Friday Night Funkin'. Yet, after finishing the game, I was immediately hooked to rhythm games and started playing games like Osu!, Taiko, Stepmania, etc. All of which were very entertaining and I still play to this day. So overall, I feel like it just depends on how Friday Night Funkin' could affect the player, it could go both ways.
I can strongly agree with your opinions. I just think for me personally is the i still think it's a music game either way. I know it's doesn't have the essentials what it should have to be considered a music game, but it got the barebones to be still what is a rhythm game. From playing music games probly everyday it's really amazing to see my friends that have never touched a rhythm game loving it! It's just the recognition that makes me smile about they like something out of the rhythm game generé. Overall it was a fun time playing it here and there just to find something to do with friends, i think it lead up to the hype for the community to stay there for a while.
It's the Evangelion of anime.
It's the Cadillac of cars
why cadillac???
-a car guy
no.
no.
yeah I'm glad they fixed the input system and charting in the week 7 update. all of your criticisms are fair and true, and the game is a lot better now.
this video is like a public speaking event but for my screen
Great job at trying this format out more! I think youre getting more natural at talking directly to the camera
Most people who chart FNF have never heard or played rhythm games before, so it can make sense why they're overcharted. We can give them constructive criticism and recommend them other rhythm games.
because we're gettin freaky on a friday night yeah
why is the thumbnail so good lmao
Well just about four years later, and it's proven FNF actually has legs. And to be fair, a lot of that is from all the community-created content that's popped up around it (and said community has an absolute _truckload_ of drama within it), but even the base game has improved dramatically from those early days. As someone who considers himself a rhythm game veteran (started with FFR in 2005 and kept going since with stuff like StepMania), I'm actually really happy to see FNF act as an ambassador to get rhythm games back into the mainstream after the big crash around the turn of the 2010s, and the amount of genuine talent and creativity on display in mods and even the base game nowadays makes it a worthy addition to the genre in my opinion.
kinda like dancedancerevolution but on beat LOL.
also the background music for this vid fits really well.
this video was really good big ups
it's just a lil newgrounds game with a fun style. that's really the best answer to this title
Yeah
I'm just glad I wasn't the only one feeling like I hit some stuff half the time, but it would just randomly miss.
As of March 1st, 2021, the sync issue has been completely fixed (at least for me). So rest easy, rhythm game snobs.
Coming back to this video after a year, and also after reading WIRED's article about the rise of Indie Rhythm Games including this one..
I say that the concept for Friday Night Funkin' is not really skill-based, (though functionality is a must. They actually fixed the input system at the Week 7 update) but rather returning to the genre's roots which is about music and charm. Remember PaRappa The Rapper from the PlayStation? It did not really start off as a hard-ass Rhythm Game, but people loved the game because it has interesting stuff, not only on the mechanics, but also the concept of it which inspired Funkin'.
The concept of modern rhythm games not focusing much on skill-based rhythm but revamping mechanics, adding interesting gimmicks, and adding in story like Funkin' did (except the mechanics. Mechanics is still DDR/StepMania) also implies to other rhythm indie games like ADOFAI, Muse Dash, Sayonara Wild Hearts, Wandersong, and Rhythm Doctor. In terms of difficulty for the likes of elitists, you might pretty sure be fond of Rhythm Doctor because as the game progresses, songs get harder and harder, not relying much anymore on a fixed time signature, but irregular time signatures, and tokaku also said while playing it that the hit window feels so strict. These games are really well known especially Rhythm Doctor and Funkin' (obviously).
For people who want to read the article, here's the link. It also talks not only about FNF, but a summarized history of the genre 2 decades ago and the new format of indie rhythm games that were released last decade ago.
www.wired.com/story/rhythm-games-indie-comeback/
FnF is the rhythm game that re introduced me to rhythm games since... tap tap revenge and paino tiles, I played it, thought it was pretty fun, coming back to the game once in a while to see if I can improve my score, and 2-4 months later and I am playing osu! mania, how did I get here? But yeah, FnF is a positive for rhythm games, since some people might try other rhythm games like osu, etterna, quaver, etc, but that's just my opinion
Random person: FnF Is The Hardest Rhytm Game!!
Mania players: nice warmup lol
I agree
Dashie is just ironic
iconic and infamous
well it's good they are adding lore to the game
After getting good and MFCing all of fnf’s main songs and a lot of the mods for the game, I’ve started playing Osu mania to keep improving my skills. I’m really enjoying it. And for anyone saying Friday night funkin isn’t bringing in new rhythm game players, it most definitely is :D
i dont think anyone is doubting that fnf is bringing in new rhythm game players. glad youre having fun, man
I kinda hate to admit that FNF got me back into playing rhythm games... I started out as a simple Project Diva player, but when the FNF prototype was first released, I played that and was like "Meh, not really the best game" and then it got popular and I was like "Maybe I will give it a second chance..." and now I'm at player level 128 in Muse Dash and I'm never gonna stop rhythm gaming!
I dare to all fnf fan to say beep to parents, friend, stranger or online for 24 hours
No choose
9:00 oh! you've probably gotten comments on this before but the yelling basically symbolizes hype or being hyped for something like ur favourite song coming on!
I love how people are struggling on some of these songs that for the most part are like 2 to 3* on osu!mania LUL
FUCK I need to stop gatekeeping.
They have to do it with WASD. Also the game has weird note detection if you try to tap other notes while any of the keys are being held down.
If a standard player looked at this though, they’ll probably just think: “Psssh, amateurs.”
Wait so 2 to 3* in mania is really bad?? Imma stick with standard
As a person who started seriously playing mania for almost 2 years, starting out playing 2* with no vsrg experience is really hard so i couldnt really blame them
@@hypergu wdym bad?
@@cubesolver2564 you can just use AS + up arrow right arrow
YO HE GOT MY BOI YUB IN HERE YOU'RE A REAL ONE
cant wait for new top players to say they started in Friday night funkin
The biggest issue I have with this game is that sometime it drops your inputs when the notes get fast like he said in the video and it makes it annoying to try and perfect a song, which I still find to be an issue while using the improved “Kade Engine”, but at that point it might just be note desync.
i thought it got popular on the mods, not tik tok, honestly had no idea on that
personally i found fnf through the dude that made the ENA mod
It’s 90% sure that dashie means that it’s like ddr but you use a keyboard ( as you can tell by his hand gestures) and, just to add, it’s common for dashie to make some silly mistakes while talks
And these damn fnf kids call Flippy the best rhythm game player bruh, he aint even good
1:03 ninja muffin e i g h t y n i n e
My main problem with the game is the hitreg/input system. Can someone please tell me im not the only one who has notes miss despite clearly hitting them?
Ur not the only one but fnf fixed it
As someone who really likes this game I think the main attractions are the art style,character designs,and modding! The game has a very cute and visually appeling art style opposed to most other rhythm games which tend to be pretty lacking when it comes to the art,along with that the character cameos from very popular newground characters like Pico (from pico's school) the Kids from spooky month,Tankman,ect help boost it's popularity also,Along with that fact that it's open source makes it really easy to mod and add your own unique characters and music...but at the end of the game yea as a stand alone rhythm game it could be much better.
It's also very accessible, mainly due to it's very low difficulty - casual players don't have the reflexes or motor skills to keep up with anything that's above average, so having something as easy as FNF is automatically more appealing, especially when the "hardest" song in the game is beatable pretty easily it lets them feel like they're the best of the best because they don't know about the genre outside of their FNF bubble.
Still waiting for NotITG to blow up.
This needs million views.
There is a huge amount of Roblox versions of this quite funny.