The Best Guitar Hero FC You've Never Heard Of

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  • @aWiseMoose
    @aWiseMoose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +426

    My jaw about hit the floor when I first saw Cal's ingenious frankenstein guitar that makes this possible, that's some serious 200 IQ shit. I followed this project closely and I'm so damn happy that he was able to pull it off, it's a well-deserved accolade.

    • @Jammert
      @Jammert 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      so did his

    • @patstaysuckafreeboss8006
      @patstaysuckafreeboss8006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He cheated 🤦‍♂️

    • @s0vnds
      @s0vnds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 proof?

    • @ItsKryptick
      @ItsKryptick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@rastas_4221 that would be modded software though. Modding the guitar is literally the only way that this song can be FCed on NTSC on unmodded software.

    • @chrispy780
      @chrispy780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 damn you didn't listen what the video said.
      It's impossible bro without slight modification and he confused the system to think it's a xbox360 controller, and you still think it's cheating. That's like me plugged in my mouse and keyboard to my Xbox so I can can play PC games like wtf are you trying to say

  • @itskmillz
    @itskmillz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    To put into perspective how long it took for this to be accomplished:
    GH2 is older than somebody who just got the 2nd ever Soulless 6 FC lol

  • @wtfsong3
    @wtfsong3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +394

    The work behind the FC itself is just as, if not more impressive than the FC itself imo

    • @patstaysuckafreeboss8006
      @patstaysuckafreeboss8006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope. The skill is more impressive. One man did what an entire community couldn’t.

    • @notmac1853
      @notmac1853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 Nope. Wrong.

    • @patstaysuckafreeboss8006
      @patstaysuckafreeboss8006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notmac1853 Oh to the contrary, I’m 100% objectively right.

    • @awsomestleaperd78
      @awsomestleaperd78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 calling a community bad because they couldn't do something that wasnt humanly possible is pretty stupid lmao

  • @crimson-foxtwitch2581
    @crimson-foxtwitch2581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    2:47 Clarification: Some parts of Japan use NTSC, namely the western half, while others use PAL, but software was generally developed under NTSC, and standardization started to switch to 60Hz around the time PAL60 became a thing: which was coincidentally during the PlayStation 2 era since hardware was no longer just raw-downclocked for 50Hz rendering.

    • @zavtparticles
      @zavtparticles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Japan also has the thing where they use different electrical rates in different areas, like whyyyyyyyy

    • @MasterAnimit
      @MasterAnimit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@zavtparticles That's because first instalations were done by two separate firms: in 1895 German AEG (50 Hz) started in Tokyo, year later - American GE (60 Hz) started in Osaka. Later their systems were developed and finally, when it become nationalwide - costs of changing it were far too big.
      And decades later tsunami hitted in Fukushima nuclear power plant, as a result of wave almost half of Japan lost their power and second half couldn't help them but that's another story...

  • @rosettastoned5002
    @rosettastoned5002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Man. I’m really sitting here, listening to this esoteric guitar hero history and completely immersed in it, as per usual. Kudos once again 🙏

    • @monkeyjumbo48
      @monkeyjumbo48 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool pfp

    • @rosettastoned5002
      @rosettastoned5002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@monkeyjumbo48 appreciative of the image you know where it’s from

    • @TheUsefulxIdiot
      @TheUsefulxIdiot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is your username a tool reference? 😎

    • @rosettastoned5002
      @rosettastoned5002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheUsefulxIdiot yessirrrrr

    • @LOLzum101
      @LOLzum101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How's it esoteric its literally explained in full

  • @logman314
    @logman314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    You know you've made it when Etienne makes a documentary of your accomplishment. Amazing video for a mind-boggling FC.

  • @AspergerPlays
    @AspergerPlays 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Im astonished someone would FC an impossible song like that, even more considering the guitabomination created. Just legendary.

  • @9000ryan
    @9000ryan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Absolutely genius to basically force "gamepad mode" with a non-guitar pcb/chip or whatever, but make the strum bar trigger the fret presses. I'm honestly blown away.

  • @DrTacoPHD665
    @DrTacoPHD665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    17:17 The "WHAT?!" every gamer can relate to.

  • @tiddly5
    @tiddly5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    the fact that cal could even kinda play with that controller is impressive by itself lmao

  • @NunoVH
    @NunoVH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Excellent explanation! It's nice to hear the full details of the grind.

  • @helious_music
    @helious_music 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ngl i clicked on this video only anticipating to watch the first 2 minutes because i have stuff to do right now but
    the pacing, editing, and story telling of the video kept me engaged the ENTIRE time (whoops). what an absolute banger video 11/10

  • @AbyssionQC
    @AbyssionQC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Cal is our lord and savior

  • @hata1499
    @hata1499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Good video to get your mind off the Schmooey betrayal

  • @bassslinger8191
    @bassslinger8191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hope your channel explodes man. This was a great watch. Top tier gaming documentary.

  • @kingleanie
    @kingleanie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I remember back in the day arguing with LocalH and Fyighfreak on whether Obsidian was possible to FC, and Scott said himself "The only FC that is truly impossible is Trogdor on NTSC."
    this is definitely one of those accomplishments where along with being an iconic fc, it's a "mystery solved" type situation with how an fc like this could happen.

  • @Zuxtron
    @Zuxtron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This is just crazy. How the hell do you come up with something like that? The GH community must be really dedicated to create this Frankenstein monstrosity for the sole purpose of getting an FC on a single song.

  • @121597Luke
    @121597Luke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just keep proving you're the best and most dedicated rhythm game content creator. Keep it up my man

  • @matthewdrury6443
    @matthewdrury6443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Amazing. I remember the debate on the Scorehero forums like, almost fifteen years ago, about the possibility of this. One question that remains: why exactly is that condition in the code about the guitar controllers implying a strum limit? What purpose does that serve?

    • @AbyssionQC
      @AbyssionQC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      There is no definite answer because Harmonix quite literally denied the existence of the strum limit and pretty much told people to get better at the game and stop coping (there's an interview somewhere on youtube, it's pretty hilarious in retrospect). Many believe it was implemented in the early phase where the controllers used for testing might not have been very reliable. It would effectively prevent overstrums on bad hardware. It's just a theory but it seems the most viable.

    • @prime98k4
      @prime98k4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@AbyssionQC but weirdly enough the strum limit is also present in early Rock Band games, maybe they were worried about easy over strumming

    • @AbyssionQC
      @AbyssionQC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I don't think they intentionally left the strum limit when they reused the engine to make Rock Band.

    • @Prism019
      @Prism019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Did the strum bars on early hardware have Schmitt triggers or debouncing capacitors? If not, it would make sense to have a strum limit like that. Instead of retooling the hardware, retool the software.

    • @exk4
      @exk4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's likely there to eliminate phantom overstrums caused by shoddy hardware.

  • @oriolgonzalez9328
    @oriolgonzalez9328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That guitar-fightpad frankencontroller is just GENIUS! And the video editing is top-notch!

  • @ninjapwnsatlyfe
    @ninjapwnsatlyfe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Back in the day we used to take non dualshock ps1 controllers and modify them into broken guitars because the up and down could be used as strum. Literally never once thought it was a beneficial thing other than just being able to play the game. As a 14 year old I didn't have money for guitars, so if a guitar died, I did whatever it took to play. It's wild to see all these years later there's a real reason to use it

  • @carsonperkins7351
    @carsonperkins7351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All the support for guitar hero content, keep doing great work yo :D classic gh2 strum limit

  • @MirageLuna
    @MirageLuna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i remember when the fc was uploaded, i was in complete shock lol. great video

  • @409guzzler
    @409guzzler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this editing is immaculate holy shit

    • @skylersop
      @skylersop 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it kinda reminds me of asumsaus

    • @Kerrmunism
      @Kerrmunism 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skylersop i thought the same

  • @JolsCH6
    @JolsCH6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You really make the best rhythm game breakdown videos man, keep up the good work!

  • @V0lt1j
    @V0lt1j 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We now interrupt score progression: soulless 4 to show you the best guitar hero fc you’ve never heard of

  • @siokedelic
    @siokedelic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, I remember super in depth discussions about this on SH back in the day. Awesome the community came up with that solution to solve that issue!

  • @iceyroo
    @iceyroo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love these FC documentary videos!

  • @conjae
    @conjae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    banger vid as always

  • @zarhle1
    @zarhle1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video! Always love when you cover CH / GH content.

  • @diplogg6782
    @diplogg6782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Etienne video on a cold rainy day, you bless me.

  • @spawncampingnoob
    @spawncampingnoob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    haven't even watch 2 seconds in and i already know it's sixstringcal's trogdor 360 fc lol

  • @mrtoast244
    @mrtoast244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Imagine the nerves trying to fc this classic impossible Trogdor (NTSC) chart

  • @FancySkunk
    @FancySkunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is insane. I hadn't heard that this FC happened, but I was around the GH community back in the day and knew that it was labeled as impossible. Absolutely nuts to know that it actually got taken down.

  • @clindberg1
    @clindberg1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    GREAT VID you're doing the lord's work. rhythm game records are HYPE

  • @rishi280
    @rishi280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your vids give me trun down for walt vibes. Thank you for all you do for our comunity

  • @ssaamil
    @ssaamil 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a legend. Wish I was in this community sooner, but never too late yeah? Cheers

  • @ChangingFrets
    @ChangingFrets 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the reminder that I have 3rd place on Trogdor! Gotta get that first place soon.

  • @Imaproshaman7
    @Imaproshaman7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing! I love these GH history videos!

  • @JashtheBrash
    @JashtheBrash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Apparently, Trogdor comes at 3:11"

  • @coolstuffgaming
    @coolstuffgaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    someone watches asumsamus :D you converted it great with your editing style

  • @GrannySoupLadle
    @GrannySoupLadle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol i remember playing jordan with 360 controller and 5 people one person per button

  • @FkFraps
    @FkFraps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The edit upgraded

  • @cofiddle
    @cofiddle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    14:43 free f2l pair

  • @MasterAnimit
    @MasterAnimit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    16:18 Me watching this after 181280128 notelocks in Osu:
    *i know that feel bro*

  • @KING-KLOWDY
    @KING-KLOWDY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope I don't see a trend of speedruns starting with an explanation done in a sea of wires and dismantled electronics for electrocution percent.

  • @zwingler
    @zwingler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Having heard of this FC makes me feel like a true connasour of GH

    • @user-jk6rp5xh3n
      @user-jk6rp5xh3n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Connoisseur 🤦🏽

    • @anemiapwns1
      @anemiapwns1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-jk6rp5xh3n kawneusewer

  • @sovulken
    @sovulken 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    welcome back

  • @anemiapwns1
    @anemiapwns1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so awesome! I definitely didn't expect this FC.

  • @TougherLoki
    @TougherLoki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SixstringCal doesn't believe in no win scenarios.

  • @KarstenPHT
    @KarstenPHT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that wire looks worse than octopus wire

  • @giannamichaels9010
    @giannamichaels9010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Crazy acai recently just FC’d this too

    • @Rexzafi
      @Rexzafi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      on PAL.

  • @mrtoast244
    @mrtoast244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The first time I heard this song was through theDooo, I never knew it had such a history in rhythm games

  • @wnesl
    @wnesl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I fucking love Calvin

  • @sirisaac6125
    @sirisaac6125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolute madlad

  • @deatgr3623
    @deatgr3623 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know this video is two years old at this point, but sometimes I think about this and wish rock band 1 had controller support for guitar so some psychopath could try and do Green Grass and High Tides NTCS like this

  • @PaddyRoon7
    @PaddyRoon7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew what song it was from the thumbnail but assumed the video would be about PAL. Kind of in disbelief right now that this happened.

  • @GamingOverload
    @GamingOverload 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so glad I guessed it was Trogdor before the video kicked off

  • @gookoo416
    @gookoo416 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ages ago I managed a -1 on the solo in practice, since it was impossible to do any better I was happy with that.

  • @sharktheprez
    @sharktheprez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    15:54 Etienne playing some melee lets goooooo

  • @WolfAeterni
    @WolfAeterni 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:17 very small correction: it's a 16.6666 (rounded to 17)% difference, since it runs at 5/6 the framerate

  • @chambeet
    @chambeet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    God, GH2 was the best. I remember when it was gradually discovered that this was impossible on NTSC. So frustrating. So many of the top players like Lo7 or HellAshes had 63/64 FCs due to this song (I THINK that Lo7 got Beast and the Harlot, but don’t quote me on that).

  • @ryansmock2717
    @ryansmock2717 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh so that's what Schmooey's guitar looks like

  • @DarkCrushr
    @DarkCrushr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i saw this fc thx to the clone hero rewind
    2021

  • @josegranola7
    @josegranola7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    is something like that possible with rockband solo frets? AFAIK GGaHT still un-fced on NTSC

    • @SanicStudios
      @SanicStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. Rock Band (guitar) can't be played with a controller. All regular gamepads are used for vocals. This solution wouldn't work.

    • @ThatTonnatoTenrec
      @ThatTonnatoTenrec 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SanicStudios Think he meant spamming solo buttons along with strumming normaly [so id ugess holding top fret, strumming, and spamming solo buttons tho i only see a 3 armed person doing that]

    • @josegranola7
      @josegranola7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SanicStudios If you didn't know on the Strat guitars from rockband, the small row of frets are called "solo frets" and those work the same as a controller during solo sections (you only need to tap them)

  • @Vitorzz
    @Vitorzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what a legend

  • @LolWutMikehSM
    @LolWutMikehSM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like I'm having deja vu...

  • @Ashelrod
    @Ashelrod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, that's amazing, but I still don't understand Harmonix's desire to implement Strum Limit in almost all of their games.

  • @driftafk6653
    @driftafk6653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video

    • @FkFraps
      @FkFraps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very nice

    • @V0lt1j
      @V0lt1j 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FkFraps very very nice

    • @obeliusx
      @obeliusx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@V0lt1j Very very very nice

    • @V0lt1j
      @V0lt1j 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@obeliusx very very very very nice

  • @Blustride
    @Blustride ปีที่แล้ว

    That padhack guitar is sick.

  • @tiaraguy7705
    @tiaraguy7705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love my gamepad brothers

  • @DT_Worlds_Strongest_Goth
    @DT_Worlds_Strongest_Goth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:26
    I'm one of the idiots who wasted hours on this solo. got to around the last note of the "human limit" zone on NTSC twice in MANY hours of attempts. At the time, I couldn't understand why this solo was so hard.

  • @bigluxurious
    @bigluxurious 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    fuego!

  • @KieranDurand
    @KieranDurand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was this that fc that you were hinting at near the end of the gh2 score progression?

  • @Laddermans
    @Laddermans 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    just realized you changed your pfp
    anyways great video. i need to get back into gh and ch

  • @mariotaz
    @mariotaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thus is great

  • @hamiltonics
    @hamiltonics 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The legend

  • @darkgel
    @darkgel ปีที่แล้ว

    This is interesting, in my case I wanted to add an autostrum button to my ps2 controller just for fun but I didn't know how to, and I guess he would know how.

  • @Cirnology
    @Cirnology 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    new ettiene video lets fuckking goo

  • @dbeast03
    @dbeast03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So this controller made gameplay somewhat of a weird hybrid of all strums and all taps. Interesting. . .

    • @AbyssionQC
      @AbyssionQC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you play clone hero, there is a setting called gamepad mode (same menu as note speed) which is essentially this (though I believe it behaves like GH3 and not GH2, there are differences in what can and cannot be done between the two).

  • @salteeth
    @salteeth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All of this happened because Kaizer from California wanted to see an internet cartoon character draw a dragon. Humanity is amazing, actually.

  • @fjollesmoll
    @fjollesmoll 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this mean its possible to patch a Guitar Hero 2 ISO with the strum limit removed for guitar controllers? That would be legendary.

  • @mikestion4629
    @mikestion4629 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    *_TROOGDOOOOOAAARRRRRR!!!!_*

  • @guitarclassicgame98
    @guitarclassicgame98 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the random DK64 music in this video 😆

  • @TommyWashow
    @TommyWashow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    14:47 is that a valk

  • @Dracula_sb
    @Dracula_sb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yoooo Melee 😳💪

  • @triledink
    @triledink 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first guitar hero was 2, and in my opinion Guitar hero 2 is the greatest guitar hero game ever made. I own every main title guitar hero game from GH1 all the way up to WOR and everything between, while GH3 is considered the best and have improved from gh2 greatly. I would still say that gh2 is my personal favorite since the songs are way better and hitting notes were a bit more satisfying.

  • @shoopy44
    @shoopy44 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    when does the dreaming part come in

  • @spoildmilk5249
    @spoildmilk5249 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    TROGDOR!!!!

    • @V0lt1j
      @V0lt1j 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TROGDOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @stuntboy0372
      @stuntboy0372 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@V0lt1j Trogdor was a man!

    • @V0lt1j
      @V0lt1j 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stuntboy0372 i mean he was a dragon man

    • @DerpyTheShreddingProto
      @DerpyTheShreddingProto 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Voltij or maybe he was just a dragon...

    • @V0lt1j
      @V0lt1j 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DerpyTheShreddingProto but he’s still TROGDOOOOOOOOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @ifroad33
    @ifroad33 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the parallell universes?

  • @Avriel_Mimiga
    @Avriel_Mimiga 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the first FC i think about is the Soulless 6 FC

  • @mutantfrogs
    @mutantfrogs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    heard of it

  • @fusion4460
    @fusion4460 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought you knew there was no strum limit on gamepad?

  • @flleaf
    @flleaf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thinking space

  • @RitzDx510
    @RitzDx510 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    and the trogdor comes in the night

  • @Loitsu
    @Loitsu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pyrocynical reference in the title

  • @dyorgewiltonspassos183
    @dyorgewiltonspassos183 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible to fc this on a controller?

  • @Centan1234
    @Centan1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the DK64 vibes are real

  • @name1092
    @name1092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    jokes on you, ive heard of trogdor

  • @crookycumbles
    @crookycumbles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could this not be performed on something like an arcade stick then?