Appreciate the shout out and kind words Raz 🤗. That FG is absolutely Gorgeous 👀. Talk about Beast. Not sure what happened with your XLX2. Think it was probably a bad unit. Should take harsh hits no problem. The locked center diff might be too much for the outdrives though. A little give with straight Silicone ear plugs will probably work better 👍. M2C Overkill outdrives use hardened tool steel pins. Probably far better than GPM. Don't sweat the rough jumps my friend. Find some smooth take offs and you'll get the feel for jumping Big Girl in no time 😍. She's a wonderful rig. Just keep at it my friend!!!! 🍻😎💪👊👊
Yeah you are definitely the GOAT of extreme bashing you and one other guy is kind of close to you, but still you reign supreme when it comes to extreme bashing....now after I hop off of your nuts lol, I'm going to go order me some Overkill drive shafts
@@justNcase843 thanks Brother 🤗. Every 8s upgrade serves a valuable function and was born of necessity. Not saying they're all necessary for a stout basher, but most every part Mitch and Avery have designed started as a request for something better than stock after pushing these heavy Beasts to the extreme 🚀🚀
as soon as i saw the thumb nail i thought CASTLE CREMATIONS! personally i don’t think castle creations systems are for bashing. they have plenty in of power don’t get me wrong but i’d rather spend by money on a more reliable 1/5/1/6 esc like the MAX5 the prototype xlx2 esc were great but the ones castle has released to the public have been carp sense 3 years so far they have been catching fire an esc gets loads of abuse in basher cars all the throttle control in the air to correct the car and even accelerating from a dead stop (what raz did) the thing still smoked i think castle esc and motor combos are good in speed run cars and crawlers but hobbywing is more reliable in a car like the Outcast 8s EXB as far as my knowledge a old traxxas esc would last longer than a xlx2 in a bashing state of abuse that’s my opinion and your free to have your own
I am so glad I saw this video. This is the EXACT same thing that happen to me 3 times in 1 month with my XLX2 ESC. My original xlx2 esc lasted months and was indestructible, then 3 in a row all caught on fire within 1 month (some on the first run) . Common theme was the car landed upside down each time, started cogging, and then blew.
Exact same thing happened to me on my second unit, it stopped moving, cogged, then blew up. My third one was getting ready to blow up after a small impact. It landed on it's roof too, gave me an excessive load error with no throttle. Ran over, took the body off, turned it off, then back on. Smoke came out and I immediately turned it off again. I'm glad I was able to even turn the damn thing off, I almost lost another set of brand new batteries.
@@NepDouble07 they seem to have some serious quality control issues. Currently on my 5th unit and so far so good but I haven’t landed on the roof yet. Only had it out 4/5 times since the weather hasn’t been good here. Hopefully this one holds up.
To be fair everything was fine, Id suggest changing to a hobbywing Max5 800kv setup with 34/39 motor and spur gear. Outdrives need to be M2C Racing or Scorchedparts. Finally when mid air the trigger needs to be fully pressed to make backflips. Center diff with silicone earplugs work a dream 😁👌.
Pretty much said the exact same . ( which is what’s on my outcast, and kraton expect outcast has the titanium out drives from scorched and the kr8 has the thicker m2c . Should be a good test to see which handles better, both are identical in motor esc and gears , 👍🏼
Put 100k front and rear diff fluid and 500k in the center diff. Use a cheap ESC motor combo like a hobby wing and a TP or leopard motor. They seem to do well when bashing. M2C drive shafts. You will then be ready to bash with the best of them. It's not your driving. Locking the diff on a basher destroys everything and it needs to give a little. You got this. You're the RC Goat!
Excellent video Raz! That fire was unbelievable. I’m sorry for your loss. Very, very, very interested in the FG build. Definitely considering adding one to the fleet.
Locking the diffs on a basher is very risky. It doesn’t allow for give when bashing and these big trucks need the give space. I always use earplugs with zero issues on everyone of my big rigs! Good experiment though.
I think xlx2 are hit or miss and I think they work better for on road. Cause ever off road build seems to go up in flames. I dont know if the esc is not packaged securely in the case and somthing arcs out on bumps or hard landings but I'd love to watch you take it apart and see what when wrong inside!
That must be the case, I had an XLX2 in my outcast 8s exb, one was buggy, one caught fire and I never even jumped it, and my third one died from a small impact from a 4 foot jump... They really fucked up with this ESC in all honesty... Saying it's for road only cars seems like such a waste, this ESC is so capable in almost any vehicle when it's built to spec.
This is why when I decided to try building a 2wd slash to try hitting 120mph+ with I used the castle mmx8s. haven't hit my mark yet cause I've literally shattered tranny gears about 8 times so far because of all the power and fact that I blew out 5 tires as well. Lol. obviously i still need to play with settings and whatnot and get the perfect pass working with everything properly just havent had time to rebuild tranny and play with it in awhile. I've had setup for about 9 months now and beat the living shit (about 6 months of everyday abuse) out of the slash with the mmx8s and haven't had a single problem with the power system at all.
For bashing i find that having a nearly locked center diff makes it drive so good. I put in some jb weld putty minus the activator. Super cool dude, keep living the dream🤙🏼
I don't think you did anything wrong in particular Raz. The couple of jumps you did weren't great, but plenty of cars shrug off that kind of thing. It seems that some of those Castle esc's just up and decide that it's all too much and lunch themselves. That Audi R8 looks awesome. Looking forward to the build/running.
That's one of the reasons I'm not sure if I want to get Castle, I don't have the $$$ to be replacing ESC's and bashing parts...last thing I need is one deciding to commit to hari-kari
I thought that castle's new update fixed it....... I have an xlx2 in my xmaxx and I feel like its a ticking time bomb if I play with it, it's now just a shelf queen until Castle confirms and proofs that it wouldn't catch fire for sure like guaranteed. I should have gotten hobbywing lol
I might be the crash but kevin talbot had one catch fire from no impact at all, so I rather not take the risk, and just wait, I'm not blaming you or Castle, I'm just not willing to risk my xmaxx🤣🤣BTW thanks a lot for the reply😁😁
Would definitely reach out to Castle about the ESC, just to see what they say. With the diff, I would of used thick silicone earplugs to still allow a bit of movement (given enough force) whilst still driving as if it's locked, and maybe slightly thicker oil in the front diff for better front end pull when drifting around. Drive shafts breaking? All I can say is "GPM", lol
Raz running those diffs on thin oil like he's speed running. I knew those diffs wasn't going to last long especially on 8s. I just hat one coming a mile away after a few jumps, but it broke the very first jump.🤦🏽♂️😅
Castle isn’t the blame anymore. No body else is burning xlx2. I think it over revved bcs it was just front wheel. The edit film was just 3 minutes we don’t know how long he ran that with a broken diff.
@@AutoBodyEverything I have nothing against castle, they make extremely powerful electronics that don't compare to others, but castle needs to do something about the xlx2 esc's, I am not a pin it wide open basher like these guys are, but 2 of these esc's I have bought, and some of my friends bought who also drive like me have set fire under lower cell batteries, we don't run our rc's past 4 or 6 cell, and they still blow up. I don't know what's going on with them, but at a couple rc meets in Michigan I've went to had over 4 esc fires because of this. system, I've been in this hobby for 6 years and those esc's are something I don't mess with after my experience.
@@deontay79ify that's what I'm thinking, castle creations had made some rc killing motors and esc's over the years, and if this esc wasn't a slight bit of a time bomb, it very well could almost overthrow the hobbywing max esc's altogether, there has to be one main component on the esc's pcb board that is causing this almost outlet sounding pop when it shorts out. The soda can sized motor is very close to the primal rc raminator electric conversion kit, and if castle revises the esc and does some stress testing and locate the problem, this system might be able to be a budget electric conversion kit for the raminator, I am not saying it would 100% work for a kit, but it has potential. For me it's just sad seeing a brand that I've trusted for years of the insane power I crave, slowly, and literally, go up in flames, I'm not ditching Castle yet, I probably wouldn't ever do that, but a thing your so invested into with thousands of dollars put into it to have the most fun since you were younger, burn up and destroy your rc, is not worth the stress of looking at an overdone Thanksgiving turkey. I would be extremely upset. And I'm pretty sure everyone who's had this happen to them is hopefully going to wait until this esc's revised
Wow the R8 is BEAUTIFUL...You can tell the machining on that is superb ! 👌 I really believe the Castle Esc's fry when they want and as you know Raz your definitely not the last it's goin to happen to. Keep the videos rollin.. you and kev are the only two I watch and give a shit about watching 😊
MMX8s and the castle 2028 800kv is a perfect setup. I run it on my offroad Felony (18.5lbs) and it is loads of power. Stays a great temp geared for 48mph offroad.
How does the mmx8s handle impacts? I ended up getting one for my outcast 8s because the xlx2 kept failing on me. I'm hoping the mmx8s is more reliable, even if it's less powerful, I still won't be using it to it's full potential in my setup.
@@NepDouble07 was in my Mojave during a 25-30ft backflip with a direct wheel landing with hard chassis slap on concrete. Came unmounted but was just fine
Raz I think Castle is the best option if you are looking to do speed runs. For the price you can't get anything to compete with the performance it gives. The problem is that Castle ESCs just aren't the most reliable ESCs. So for performance you give up reliability.
You have to put silicone ear plugs in the center diff and also the castle escs are realy bad your better of with a hobbywing esc like a max 5 or something. (you also need some better driveshafts btw) Maby it's also good to just buy a smaller and easier car to learn bashing like a slash 4x4 or something like that. The traxxas slash 4x4 is a great car for learning how to bash and realy durable. P.S. if you are gonna buy the slash put the hobbywing max10 combo in there with the 3200kv motor goes around 70mph on a 4s lipo Im Dutch, so sorry for my spelling mistakes!
Dude, I'm so scared that one of the xlx in your quad motors build will do the same thing. I really hope not but it stress me out even if it's not mine XD. Anyway, great video !
I'm too scared to use an xlx2 in a basher. Max 5 with 1050kv leopard motor for me has been bullet proof on 8s. Plenty of power with center ear plugs and 35/47 gearing.
A lot of people don't like plastic driveshafts in smaller 1/10 scale cars, but they have some advantages, one of them is twisting under high load or shock, so there is less stress on a drivetrain. I had more issues with dog bones piping out, bending and breaking pins than plastic shafts. I am not saying plastic driveshafts are the way to go for big 1/5 scale rcs, or that are better than metal, but they do have some advantage for smaller cars
you didnt let us down, great video💯‼💥💨. that nitro look/sound in the car park was superb!!!! 🤩 these xlx2 catching fire are scary... makes me worried to run my precious limitless 😅 at least with the weather being way it is you get to enjoy looking at all those nice clean painted to 'perfection' bodies.
about bent drive shafts check the drive shafts length if they dont bind up during suspenssion strokes, got a set of tekno for my slash 2wd that turned out to be a bit to long and had a risk or crushing the diff so i milled off 1mm from the back of the lump on the dogbone to get the extra room for them.
I dont recommend gluing your diff gears, I prefer "blu tack" stuffed into every crevice, the diff wont move and you can still remove the blu tack later if you need.
Wow I’ve never thought of good old blue tak. Always went silicone ear plugs or half plug half diff gear oil. That’s such a cool idea. Kudos for coming up with that one👍🏼
Sorry about the XLX2 going up in flames off that little landing. I don't see Rich Duperbash or RC Dude 81 use the castle system. More like hobby star and leopard and Hobbywing. I've been having issues with my XLX2 in my Kraton 8s setup for no reason . Factory setting. Sent it back to castle and luckily they warranty them. But it was a hassle. Excited about the FG Audi I love road cars. Last longer too
There is no other ESC with the power of castle and to be able to turn off all safety modes to pull 600 amps....what's the other options a max5 with 200 amps..it would cut out at 115-120mph
Thanks for sharing Raz, definitely plenty of content on the horizon 👏👏 Cannot wait to see what direction you go with the FG.. mine hit a curb at 50mph a few weeks ago, which showed how strong and resilient the car and body actually are.. It was a silly mistake, I took my eyes off it before it passed to check for traffic, BIG MISTAKE LOL
I have a ton of GPM parts on my kraton 8s. From what i've learned, structural parts like tie rods, steering components, braces, hubs, and most of the a arms are great. The drivetrain parts are not so great. The metal is too soft. Even if its nice and solid when you get it, the holes that the pins are pressed into will stretch out under power and they'll loosen up and fall out. Theyre also very easy to bend by hand. Eventually I'll switch to M2C axles/shafts but for the 6 months i've had it the stock axles have been just fine (better than the gpm for sure). I'm running a Max5 and spektrum 5687 1100kv with 30/47 gearing and it has enough power to backflip even the kraton chassis, runs cool, and is rock solid reliable. Maybe consider a hobbywing esc for the basher? I've never melted a castle but maybe i've just been lucky. I've run silicone plugs in the center since day 1 and its been great.
Great video man. So when you jump your kraton 8s when your in the air if the nose is pointing to the sky tap reverse it will bring the nose down if the back of it is high and the nose is pointing down give it throttle and the back will come down good luck man.
A mate and I both own a HPI savage, and have both upgraded from nitro to big brushless systems, while modifying and changing bits and pieces we needed some good glue for the tyres. Zap-a-gap is awesome, especially the green labelled type, we nick named it "chin glue" as it would VERY easily stick ya chin to a steering wheel, like in the movies lol.
Again love the R8! Is it better than the Losi you showed in a night gathering for a while ago? Your XLX2 maybe was from a bad batch. Kevin had fires too..
Aaahhh yes... Castle doing Castle things! Plus; landing properly helps 😆 Needs some titanium driveshafts and silicone earplugs in the centre diff. You don't want locked diffs otherwise you'll just break the drivetrain.
I run m2c drive shafts because I was bending stock ones every session and so far their holding up and are all dead straight after 5 bashes. M2c also have released some thicker ones a few weeks ago so they will be extra durable. I've seen alot of Castle mambas catching fire including Kevin tolbert so for that reason I just run hobbywing. We all have bad landings but the car shouldn't be catching fire. Ditch that Castle esc bro. Your rc cars look hard. Can't wait to see that quad set up running.
The yikes factor watching you glue the planetary gears together was 8/10. All good trucks deserve a 'posi-traction' rear diff but you could have taken out the gears and used set-screws / pinion screws some how.. Wish you better luck.
I wonder how long it will take until people finally understand Castle can't make proper products. Their ESC's have sadly never been reliable, with fanboys claiming it's always user error.
That was unlucky raz, jump wasn't great, but come on, they should take that no problem. Wasn't the worst crash ever was it. I know kev Talbot had a couple go up in smoke doing nothing wrong with them, possibly a faulty batch maybe. Silicone earplugs would probably work better in the diff rather than glue it in solid. Look forward to seeing that r8 build 👌
You need to run an in-line fuse from the battery to the ESC and start at like 80 A and keep bumping it til it can handle the speed you want. I used to have a classic Futaba ESC that came with a fuse.
Cool video. The esc in the outcast was just a bad esc I’m surprised you still have any of those from what I understand castle fixed that so that esc must have been an older one
I had an XLX2 manufactured roughly 10 months after the release, that one blew up and I only ran it on flat ground with no impacts. My second one was manufactured in 2022, and it took a small impact and died. I wanted to believe they fixed the issue, but obviously they haven't.
@@NepDouble07 I just had one burn up on me to I was calibrating my perfect pass you know Erving the motor and stopping it. Then the esc just stopped working then the next day I plugged it in to a lipo to see if I could fix it and it sizzled and burned up in my house. I was pissed. They haven’t fixed anything the xlx2 can be a very fragile esc but then there’s some that take a beating and keep working others burn up. Don’t know why. Maybe bad design or something
I use m2c overkill driveshafts and have the same setup as you in my kr8 those shafts are indestructible I've beat the hell out of them for months your difs will break before them driveshafts ever do
It looks like that jump was a little sharp angled and it makes it slam right before it takes off. Idk about building cars or jumps or anything but it's just what it looks like. Try some natural hill type jumps and see how it flies if it still goes
Or maybe your shocks need tuned so they won't bottom out on the incline. Idk? Again I have no clue just guessing. Hopefully someone who bashes hard and knows can come along
Woooow can't wait seeing more of the FG. Start 8S paralell, then you can try MGM 400 or even the 800 to get more power and eventually speed out then the Castle esc.
On that OutKast truck, you have to put something soft under the ESC when you mount it. Otherwise you'll damaging your ESC during hard landing jumps. The cushion or foam you use will exsorbe the impact while saving your electronics. l even put foam or sponge padding under my batteries too. Never had on catch fire or get damaged during bashing. It really helps Raz. Can't wait to see what you come up with to fix your problem you're having. You have the most cleanest builds I've seen so far.💪🏾🔥🔥🔥
Yep . Got some cut up foam that the motor actually came surrounded in ( max 5) also padding under both esc amd motor as well as the batteries. Duperbash had a cool idea of using yoga mat for padding👍🏼
So I ordered my limitless i plan to follow your build series. Question I have for you should I order the infraction diff gears to change the ratio? I noticed you mostly use infractions and you had said that gear ratio is better for speed runs. Just wanted to get you thoughts on that. Thank you for your videos, I choose to watch you because you're the best and most informative. Again thank you for your hard work.
Raz, I really can’t believe you’re only at 70k. You deserve much more! You really are one of the best rc TH-camrs. Always bringing such great content and you have such a great personality. Keep up the great work! Thank you
YesSiRr!! WoW!! Lucky you got to it b4 it ALL went up in flames!! Sorry bud... that jump was pretty ugly tho... Lol!! But you got some pretty Awesome looking machine in your collection. Thankz again for sharing... mucho appreciated!! Stay Bless and Stay Safe out there....
I've always had bad luck with my typhon 3s. you can launch it 30 feet in the air and be fine, then you bump into a curb at 5mph my esc switch popped off. they arent as durable as they seem
Xlx2 is for speedruns not hardcore bashing. They’re a fire hazard you don’t need datalogs for jumps and backflips. You should have used a hobby wing esc and motor. At least you listened and swapped out those driveshafts. That spektrum servo needs to go. The chassis and chassis braces and shock towers need to be upgraded. That locked center diff will lead to more broken parts. You should’ve used 1 mill diff oil. Rcdude and rich have to spend the price of a new car on upgrades just to make them bash worthy. He bent the new tactical truck chassis on 2nd day. Spending $800 in upgrade parts for a $1000 rc to make it bulletproof is counterproductive. Every upgrade puts stress on weak spots...
Raz you are a Oscar winning video content, be advised that Hollywood will be calling you soon, you are THAT good, amazing your attention to detail is off the charts unbelievable raz, thanks your friend william from NJ Forgettaboutit 👍
GPM or generic parts manufacturing get some M2C or scorched axles and the XLX2 have had problems there is a castle post about it some were no D only Y motors and such. Would look in to what they say about it.
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Hey Kev dude. How’s it going mate. Keep the vids rolling 👍🏼
Be great to see Kev and Raz get together and do a bit of bashing in the UK and some speed runs in Israel👍
Ooo i see what your doing mr kevin talbot respect brother guys with mill subs never acknowledge the smaller guy way to go!
Love that you support others in the hobby. gj Kevin.
@@Pete_B95 that would be cool. Colab time. Both friends. Kev got together with Mikey from v2vids few yrs back.
Appreciate the shout out and kind words Raz 🤗. That FG is absolutely Gorgeous 👀. Talk about Beast. Not sure what happened with your XLX2. Think it was probably a bad unit. Should take harsh hits no problem. The locked center diff might be too much for the outdrives though. A little give with straight Silicone ear plugs will probably work better 👍. M2C Overkill outdrives use hardened tool steel pins. Probably far better than GPM. Don't sweat the rough jumps my friend. Find some smooth take offs and you'll get the feel for jumping Big Girl in no time 😍. She's a wonderful rig. Just keep at it my friend!!!! 🍻😎💪👊👊
Yeah you are definitely the GOAT of extreme bashing you and one other guy is kind of close to you, but still you reign supreme when it comes to extreme bashing....now after I hop off of your nuts lol, I'm going to go order me some Overkill drive shafts
@@justNcase843 thanks Brother 🤗. Every 8s upgrade serves a valuable function and was born of necessity. Not saying they're all necessary for a stout basher, but most every part Mitch and Avery have designed started as a request for something better than stock after pushing these heavy Beasts to the extreme 🚀🚀
as soon as i saw the thumb nail i thought CASTLE CREMATIONS! personally i don’t think castle creations systems are for bashing. they have plenty in of power don’t get me wrong but i’d rather spend by money on a more reliable 1/5/1/6 esc like the MAX5 the prototype xlx2 esc were great but the ones castle has released to the public have been carp sense 3 years so far they have been catching fire an esc gets loads of abuse in basher cars all the throttle control in the air to correct the car and even accelerating from a dead stop (what raz did) the thing still smoked i think castle esc and motor combos are good in speed run cars and crawlers but hobbywing is more reliable in a car like the Outcast 8s EXB as far as my knowledge a old traxxas esc would last longer than a xlx2 in a bashing state of abuse that’s my opinion and your free to have your own
I am so glad I saw this video. This is the EXACT same thing that happen to me 3 times in 1 month with my XLX2 ESC. My original xlx2 esc lasted months and was indestructible, then 3 in a row all caught on fire within 1 month (some on the first run) . Common theme was the car landed upside down each time, started cogging, and then blew.
Hard to believe their still in business. The failure rate has to be about 80% on those xlx2 esc.
@@trentthomas22 Most people who post about the XLX2s are the ones who had theirs blow up, so you see more failed ones than working ones.
@@sampuhhupmas5666 very true my friend. I’m at an unfortunate 100%. Hope you have better luck.
Exact same thing happened to me on my second unit, it stopped moving, cogged, then blew up. My third one was getting ready to blow up after a small impact. It landed on it's roof too, gave me an excessive load error with no throttle. Ran over, took the body off, turned it off, then back on. Smoke came out and I immediately turned it off again. I'm glad I was able to even turn the damn thing off, I almost lost another set of brand new batteries.
@@NepDouble07 they seem to have some serious quality control issues. Currently on my 5th unit and so far so good but I haven’t landed on the roof yet. Only had it out 4/5 times since the weather hasn’t been good here. Hopefully this one holds up.
To be fair everything was fine, Id suggest changing to a hobbywing Max5 800kv setup with 34/39 motor and spur gear. Outdrives need to be M2C Racing or Scorchedparts. Finally when mid air the trigger needs to be fully pressed to make backflips. Center diff with silicone earplugs work a dream 😁👌.
Pretty much said the exact same . ( which is what’s on my outcast, and kraton expect outcast has the titanium out drives from scorched and the kr8 has the thicker m2c . Should be a good test to see which handles better, both are identical in motor esc and gears , 👍🏼
i was going to guess he’d use silicone earplugs, not CA 😭
hobbywing max5 and there 1100kv is bulletproof! 2 years with that setup now and zero issues
How much did that cost you
The XLX2 has blown up a lot. Kevin Talbot had 2 go up in flames! I think that this esc needs to maybe be recalled or run it on a lower cell lipo..
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Put 100k front and rear diff fluid and 500k in the center diff. Use a cheap ESC motor combo like a hobby wing and a TP or leopard motor. They seem to do well when bashing. M2C drive shafts. You will then be ready to bash with the best of them. It's not your driving. Locking the diff on a basher destroys everything and it needs to give a little. You got this. You're the RC Goat!
Excellent video Raz! That fire was unbelievable. I’m sorry for your loss. Very, very, very interested in the FG build. Definitely considering adding one to the fleet.
Locking the diffs on a basher is very risky. It doesn’t allow for give when bashing and these big trucks need the give space. I always use earplugs with zero issues on everyone of my big rigs! Good experiment though.
I think xlx2 are hit or miss and I think they work better for on road. Cause ever off road build seems to go up in flames. I dont know if the esc is not packaged securely in the case and somthing arcs out on bumps or hard landings but I'd love to watch you take it apart and see what when wrong inside!
I agree.
That must be the case, I had an XLX2 in my outcast 8s exb, one was buggy, one caught fire and I never even jumped it, and my third one died from a small impact from a 4 foot jump... They really fucked up with this ESC in all honesty... Saying it's for road only cars seems like such a waste, this ESC is so capable in almost any vehicle when it's built to spec.
This is why when I decided to try building a 2wd slash to try hitting 120mph+ with I used the castle mmx8s. haven't hit my mark yet cause I've literally shattered tranny gears about 8 times so far because of all the power and fact that I blew out 5 tires as well. Lol. obviously i still need to play with settings and whatnot and get the perfect pass working with everything properly just havent had time to rebuild tranny and play with it in awhile. I've had setup for about 9 months now and beat the living shit (about 6 months of everyday abuse) out of the slash with the mmx8s and haven't had a single problem with the power system at all.
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Need m2c or scorched titanium out drives. Silicone earplugs in centre diff just about locks it up .
Not good to lock it completly, as you say, earplugs is the way to not grenade the drivetrain😬
For bashing i find that having a nearly locked center diff makes it drive so good. I put in some jb weld putty minus the activator. Super cool dude, keep living the dream🤙🏼
I miss you brother!!! so happy to see you commenting on my channel!
I don't think you did anything wrong in particular Raz. The couple of jumps you did weren't great, but plenty of cars shrug off that kind of thing. It seems that some of those Castle esc's just up and decide that it's all too much and lunch themselves.
That Audi R8 looks awesome. Looking forward to the build/running.
That's one of the reasons I'm not sure if I want to get Castle, I don't have the $$$ to be replacing ESC's and bashing parts...last thing I need is one deciding to commit to hari-kari
that bad landing probably broke a component inside and "castle cremation" happened
I thought that castle's new update fixed it....... I have an xlx2 in my xmaxx and I feel like its a ticking time bomb if I play with it, it's now just a shelf queen until Castle confirms and proofs that it wouldn't catch fire for sure like guaranteed. I should have gotten hobbywing lol
That's the thing I don't have issues with them ever! I really do believe that was the crash
I might be the crash but kevin talbot had one catch fire from no impact at all, so I rather not take the risk, and just wait, I'm not blaming you or Castle, I'm just not willing to risk my xmaxx🤣🤣BTW thanks a lot for the reply😁😁
Don’t live in your fears Ding
@@burprobrox9134thats debatable conaidering one castle system is like 500 dollars with all the wfo stuff and a whole lot of other things
Would definitely reach out to Castle about the ESC, just to see what they say. With the diff, I would of used thick silicone earplugs to still allow a bit of movement (given enough force) whilst still driving as if it's locked, and maybe slightly thicker oil in the front diff for better front end pull when drifting around. Drive shafts breaking? All I can say is "GPM", lol
Raz running those diffs on thin oil like he's speed running. I knew those diffs wasn't going to last long especially on 8s. I just hat one coming a mile away after a few jumps, but it broke the very first jump.🤦🏽♂️😅
Castle isn’t the blame anymore. No body else is burning xlx2. I think it over revved bcs it was just front wheel. The edit film was just 3 minutes we don’t know how long he ran that with a broken diff.
@@AutoBodyEverything I have nothing against castle, they make extremely powerful electronics that don't compare to others, but castle needs to do something about the xlx2 esc's, I am not a pin it wide open basher like these guys are, but 2 of these esc's I have bought, and some of my friends bought who also drive like me have set fire under lower cell batteries, we don't run our rc's past 4 or 6 cell, and they still blow up. I don't know what's going on with them, but at a couple rc meets in Michigan I've went to had over 4 esc fires because of this. system, I've been in this hobby for 6 years and those esc's are something I don't mess with after my experience.
@@IRONCaptainPanic exactly. It’s the esc for sure. It’s unfortunate cause they are a powerhouse
@@deontay79ify that's what I'm thinking, castle creations had made some rc killing motors and esc's over the years, and if this esc wasn't a slight bit of a time bomb, it very well could almost overthrow the hobbywing max esc's altogether, there has to be one main component on the esc's pcb board that is causing this almost outlet sounding pop when it shorts out. The soda can sized motor is very close to the primal rc raminator electric conversion kit, and if castle revises the esc and does some stress testing and locate the problem, this system might be able to be a budget electric conversion kit for the raminator, I am not saying it would 100% work for a kit, but it has potential. For me it's just sad seeing a brand that I've trusted for years of the insane power I crave, slowly, and literally, go up in flames, I'm not ditching Castle yet, I probably wouldn't ever do that, but a thing your so invested into with thousands of dollars put into it to have the most fun since you were younger, burn up and destroy your rc, is not worth the stress of looking at an overdone Thanksgiving turkey. I would be extremely upset. And I'm pretty sure everyone who's had this happen to them is hopefully going to wait until this esc's revised
Wow the R8 is BEAUTIFUL...You can tell the machining on that is superb ! 👌
I really believe the Castle Esc's fry when they want and as you know Raz your definitely not the last it's goin to happen to.
Keep the videos rollin.. you and kev are the only two I watch and give a shit about watching 😊
I have this and we had a short from wire through shafts... It sucked! But never an issue anymore! Thanks!
MMX8s and the castle 2028 800kv is a perfect setup. I run it on my offroad Felony (18.5lbs) and it is loads of power. Stays a great temp geared for 48mph offroad.
How does the mmx8s handle impacts? I ended up getting one for my outcast 8s because the xlx2 kept failing on me. I'm hoping the mmx8s is more reliable, even if it's less powerful, I still won't be using it to it's full potential in my setup.
@@NepDouble07 was in my Mojave during a 25-30ft backflip with a direct wheel landing with hard chassis slap on concrete. Came unmounted but was just fine
Raz I think Castle is the best option if you are looking to do speed runs. For the price you can't get anything to compete with the performance it gives. The problem is that Castle ESCs just aren't the most reliable ESCs. So for performance you give up reliability.
The new hobbywing max 4 will solve this issue.
@@alphaplus4162 Hope so man.
You have to put silicone ear plugs in the center diff and also the castle escs are realy bad your better of with a hobbywing esc like a max 5 or something. (you also need some better driveshafts btw)
Maby it's also good to just buy a smaller and easier car to learn bashing like a slash 4x4 or something like that. The traxxas slash 4x4 is a great car for learning how to bash and realy durable.
P.S. if you are gonna buy the slash put the hobbywing max10 combo in there with the 3200kv motor goes around 70mph on a 4s lipo
Im Dutch, so sorry for my spelling mistakes!
Dude, I'm so scared that one of the xlx in your quad motors build will do the same thing. I really hope not but it stress me out even if it's not mine XD. Anyway, great video !
Awesome video Raz. Don’t give up on bashing, your an amazing driver and builder. You got this man
You’re* Because somebody’s got to do it 😏
I'm too scared to use an xlx2 in a basher. Max 5 with 1050kv leopard motor for me has been bullet proof on 8s. Plenty of power with center ear plugs and 35/47 gearing.
I think the issue is a locked diffs imo. You're allowing zero dampening of sudden wheel stoppages when landing.
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Ikr? For bashing loose is better.
You do some excellent work with these cars man. Great channel! That FG is awesome!!
So good to see grown up people doing these things. Break the stereotype. I wish my country had peopple like this. Brings tears to my eyes.
Drop a hobbywing Max5 in there instead
A lot of people don't like plastic driveshafts in smaller 1/10 scale cars, but they have some advantages, one of them is twisting under high load or shock, so there is less stress on a drivetrain. I had more issues with dog bones piping out, bending and breaking pins than plastic shafts. I am not saying plastic driveshafts are the way to go for big 1/5 scale rcs, or that are better than metal, but they do have some advantage for smaller cars
you didnt let us down, great video💯‼💥💨. that nitro look/sound in the car park was superb!!!! 🤩
these xlx2 catching fire are scary... makes me worried to run my precious limitless 😅
at least with the weather being way it is you get to enjoy looking at all those nice clean painted to 'perfection' bodies.
Oh wow love the Audi RC car looks good and the thumbnail caught me off guard
It's like a movie man ! Great vid !!
Raz that happened to my limitless on Sunday bro same thing esc up in fire sorry to see that bro
What ESC was it?
@@Art-zs6sl ah raz buddy it was max 6 esc
about bent drive shafts check the drive shafts length if they dont bind up during suspenssion strokes, got a set of tekno for my slash 2wd that turned out to be a bit to long and had a risk or crushing the diff so i milled off 1mm from the back of the lump on the dogbone to get the extra room for them.
One impact with the Audi and its "8" body clips would shatter in pieces^^ haha
I dont recommend gluing your diff gears, I prefer "blu tack" stuffed into every crevice, the diff wont move and you can still remove the blu tack later if you need.
Wow I’ve never thought of good old blue tak. Always went silicone ear plugs or half plug half diff gear oil. That’s such a cool idea. Kudos for coming up with that one👍🏼
Yes i agree, my master once told me use bluetack is better
Sorry about the XLX2 going up in flames off that little landing. I don't see Rich Duperbash or RC Dude 81 use the castle system. More like hobby star and leopard and Hobbywing. I've been having issues with my XLX2 in my Kraton 8s setup for no reason . Factory setting. Sent it back to castle and luckily they warranty them. But it was a hassle. Excited about the FG Audi I love road cars. Last longer too
"Trying not to wake them up they're all sleeping ", had me laughing
Been seeing lots of Castle ESCs just going up in flames lately, especially the XLX2, maybe time to switch away from them
There is no other ESC with the power of castle and to be able to turn off all safety modes to pull 600 amps....what's the other options a max5 with 200 amps..it would cut out at 115-120mph
Hobbywing I heard will be dropping a Max4 soon.
@@runngunrc1991 that would be awesome...lol I eat my words this weekend I burnt up new xlx2
@Bevins Racing how? I have xlx2 in street basher. Considered installing it on xmaxx
Thanks for sharing Raz, definitely plenty of content on the horizon 👏👏
Cannot wait to see what direction you go with the FG.. mine hit a curb at 50mph a few weeks ago, which showed how strong and resilient the car and body actually are..
It was a silly mistake, I took my eyes off it before it passed to check for traffic, BIG MISTAKE LOL
I saw that one!
@@RazShifrin I appreciate you watching the videos Raz.. thank you 😊
I have a ton of GPM parts on my kraton 8s. From what i've learned, structural parts like tie rods, steering components, braces, hubs, and most of the a arms are great. The drivetrain parts are not so great. The metal is too soft. Even if its nice and solid when you get it, the holes that the pins are pressed into will stretch out under power and they'll loosen up and fall out. Theyre also very easy to bend by hand. Eventually I'll switch to M2C axles/shafts but for the 6 months i've had it the stock axles have been just fine (better than the gpm for sure).
I'm running a Max5 and spektrum 5687 1100kv with 30/47 gearing and it has enough power to backflip even the kraton chassis, runs cool, and is rock solid reliable. Maybe consider a hobbywing esc for the basher? I've never melted a castle but maybe i've just been lucky.
I've run silicone plugs in the center since day 1 and its been great.
Dang crazy how fast it caught fire, Arrma needs some quick release bodies lol the fj build looks sick! 👍😀
Great video man. So when you jump your kraton 8s when your in the air if the nose is pointing to the sky tap reverse it will bring the nose down if the back of it is high and the nose is pointing down give it throttle and the back will come down good luck man.
Damn..I didn't realize you dropped this video 15 hours ago.. I am ready for the next one... Its about the build...😄😄😄 good video. These cars are sick
Don’t worry My Arrma Notorious doesn’t seem to like me either. Lol.
Good thing I like the wrenching.
Can’t wait to see what you do with the R8👍
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A mate and I both own a HPI savage, and have both upgraded from nitro to big brushless systems, while modifying and changing bits and pieces we needed some good glue for the tyres. Zap-a-gap is awesome, especially the green labelled type, we nick named it "chin glue" as it would VERY easily stick ya chin to a steering wheel, like in the movies lol.
The shelves you have them on are awesome, perfect 👌
Grest edit matey really enjoyed it, That jump wad a horrible jump to flat poor Arrma 😭😭 that FG though 👌🏻👌🏻
That zap glue that you put in a differential is very flammable any little spark will cause it to fire up
Ya know in the aircraft genre castles creations esc’s has earned the nickname called “castle cremations” because of how often they caught fire 🔥
Awesome, can't wait for the 5th scale build, love your vids, 👍👍👍👍
Excellent presentation really awesome 👏 👍
The jump and fire very entertaining!
Again love the R8! Is it better than the Losi you showed in a night gathering for a while ago? Your XLX2 maybe was from a bad batch. Kevin had fires too..
Another castle up in smoke, that sucks raz. Great looking build though, I happy to see you doing a basher. Glad I bought the max 5 🤷♂️
You have to put some installation under your ESC and batteries when you're jumping and bashing like that. That could be why your ESC is catching fire.
Aaahhh yes... Castle doing Castle things!
Plus; landing properly helps 😆
Needs some titanium driveshafts and silicone earplugs in the centre diff. You don't want locked diffs otherwise you'll just break the drivetrain.
Castle Cremations and Arrma tough theres your problem! 😂😂😂 should have got an xmaxx 😂😂😂
You stirring up the mob again . Time for the salt shaker😂😂😂
You weren't kidding when you said the next video was fire!!! The esc issue must've been a fluke.
Raz your the luckiest xlx2 user I’ve ever seen. I’m literally 7/7 burning them up. Thanks for the video bro.
Love the orange nitro RC car wow... Beautiful 😎😳😳😳
I run m2c drive shafts because I was bending stock ones every session and so far their holding up and are all dead straight after 5 bashes. M2c also have released some thicker ones a few weeks ago so they will be extra durable.
I've seen alot of Castle mambas catching fire including Kevin tolbert so for that reason I just run hobbywing. We all have bad landings but the car shouldn't be catching fire. Ditch that Castle esc bro. Your rc cars look hard. Can't wait to see that quad set up running.
The yikes factor watching you glue the planetary gears together was 8/10. All good trucks deserve a 'posi-traction' rear diff but you could have taken out the gears and used set-screws / pinion screws some how.. Wish you better luck.
I wonder how long it will take until people finally understand Castle can't make proper products. Their ESC's have sadly never been reliable, with fanboys claiming it's always user error.
Maybe they can’t bash? He seems to send them down the road at 160- 170 no probs . Wonder if the heavy impacts short it out or something?
That was unlucky raz, jump wasn't great, but come on, they should take that no problem. Wasn't the worst crash ever was it.
I know kev Talbot had a couple go up in smoke doing nothing wrong with them, possibly a faulty batch maybe.
Silicone earplugs would probably work better in the diff rather than glue it in solid.
Look forward to seeing that r8 build 👌
You need to run an in-line fuse from the battery to the ESC and start at like 80 A and keep bumping it til it can handle the speed you want. I used to have a classic Futaba ESC that came with a fuse.
Cool video. The esc in the outcast was just a bad esc I’m surprised you still have any of those from what I understand castle fixed that so that esc must have been an older one
I had an XLX2 manufactured roughly 10 months after the release, that one blew up and I only ran it on flat ground with no impacts. My second one was manufactured in 2022, and it took a small impact and died. I wanted to believe they fixed the issue, but obviously they haven't.
@@NepDouble07 I just had one burn up on me to I was calibrating my perfect pass you know Erving the motor and stopping it. Then the esc just stopped working then the next day I plugged it in to a lipo to see if I could fix it and it sizzled and burned up in my house. I was pissed. They haven’t fixed anything the xlx2 can be a very fragile esc but then there’s some that take a beating and keep working others burn up. Don’t know why. Maybe bad design or something
I use m2c overkill driveshafts and have the same setup as you in my kr8 those shafts are indestructible I've beat the hell out of them for months your difs will break before them driveshafts ever do
It looks like that jump was a little sharp angled and it makes it slam right before it takes off. Idk about building cars or jumps or anything but it's just what it looks like. Try some natural hill type jumps and see how it flies if it still goes
Or maybe your shocks need tuned so they won't bottom out on the incline. Idk? Again I have no clue just guessing. Hopefully someone who bashes hard and knows can come along
that nitro is so cool!
I find it very strange that every 2 or 3 castle controller burns down. maybe the castle controllers should only be installed in on-road models?
That's called quality control it's what Hobbywing are very good at doing
I've had my XLX2 in my xmaxx for a year and a half now I've hit walls at 60 and sink it to the bottom of a river. The XLX2 has held up strong for me
@@eastermister1 that means you got a good one 🤣
Woooow can't wait seeing more of the FG. Start 8S paralell, then you can try MGM 400 or even the 800 to get more power and eventually speed out then the Castle esc.
You know you build diffs when you tourque out and just flow the index to next one. 😍😍💪🔥
You reacted damn quick. Well done cause otherwise you could have thrown that rc into the trash
On that OutKast truck, you have to put something soft under the ESC when you mount it. Otherwise you'll damaging your ESC during hard landing jumps. The cushion or foam you use will exsorbe the impact while saving your electronics. l even put foam or sponge padding under my batteries too. Never had on catch fire or get damaged during bashing. It really helps Raz. Can't wait to see what you come up with to fix your problem you're having. You have the most cleanest builds I've seen so far.💪🏾🔥🔥🔥
Yep . Got some cut up foam that the motor actually came surrounded in ( max 5) also padding under both esc amd motor as well as the batteries. Duperbash had a cool idea of using yoga mat for padding👍🏼
@@Captinfun101 damn, I never thought about the yoga mat foam. That's a damn good idea! THANKS!
@@tomasgrigley8844 To easy. Rc community is awesome, share ideas, tips and tricks.
Loving the Nitro ARRMA 💥👊🏾😎 Rcfam
Hey! The R8 body looks so good and cool 🤟
So I ordered my limitless i plan to follow your build series. Question I have for you should I order the infraction diff gears to change the ratio? I noticed you mostly use infractions and you had said that gear ratio is better for speed runs. Just wanted to get you thoughts on that. Thank you for your videos, I choose to watch you because you're the best and most informative. Again thank you for your hard work.
Jump 1 sheared drive shaft jump 2 🔥🔥🔥😎👍🏼
Raz, I really can’t believe you’re only at 70k. You deserve much more! You really are one of the best rc TH-camrs. Always bringing such great content and you have such a great personality. Keep up the great work! Thank you
Very cool
one more tip. when you run to a jump with speed leave throttle to control roll in flight. break nose down gas nose up nutral at touch down.. TEKNO
This Video was awesome
YesSiRr!! WoW!! Lucky you got to it b4 it ALL went up in flames!! Sorry bud... that jump was pretty ugly tho... Lol!! But you got some pretty Awesome looking machine in your collection. Thankz again for sharing... mucho appreciated!! Stay Bless and Stay Safe out there....
You might want to try filling the diff with silicone ear plugs. To lock it up.
I've always had bad luck with my typhon 3s. you can launch it 30 feet in the air and be fine, then you bump into a curb at 5mph my esc switch popped off. they arent as durable as they seem
Sweet can’t wait to see this build
Xlx2 is for speedruns not hardcore bashing. They’re a fire hazard you don’t need datalogs for jumps and backflips. You should have used a hobby wing esc and motor. At least you listened and swapped out those driveshafts. That spektrum servo needs to go. The chassis and chassis braces and shock towers need to be upgraded. That locked center diff will lead to more broken parts. You should’ve used 1 mill diff oil. Rcdude and rich have to spend the price of a new car on upgrades just to make them bash worthy. He bent the new tactical truck chassis on 2nd day. Spending $800 in upgrade parts for a $1000 rc to make it bulletproof is counterproductive. Every upgrade puts stress on weak spots...
M2c racing here we come!!
Raz you are a Oscar winning video content, be advised that Hollywood will be calling you soon, you are THAT good, amazing your attention to detail is off the charts unbelievable raz, thanks your friend william from NJ Forgettaboutit 👍
I have a question for u raz which motor u prefer castle or tp motors,
Both..
The castle esc have issue.Kevin Talbots car caught on fire twice if I’m not mistaken.Esc where brand new.
The thing is Kevin Talbot ran the same esc in his 100 mph off road rc car and it caught fire twice two new escs and they both lit up
The Audio and Porsche bodys look pretty damn nice IMO 👌
I noticed your furry sleeves. Are you wearing a Chewbacca costume? You're way cooler than I previously thought.
GPM or generic parts manufacturing get some M2C or scorched axles and the XLX2 have had problems there is a castle post about it some were no D only Y motors and such. Would look in to what they say about it.
Oh also eBay has cheap aluminum diff lockers that work great I locked mine and no issues locked my rear diff to. Something to think about
Awesome RCs bro. Hated see the Outcast go up in smoke. You will figure out I'm sure.
Another awesome vid 🔥👍✌️