@@aaronclinger3521 At 58:48 I put a plug in for your exmo comedy club idea. It seemed to go over well th-cam.com/users/livemprhB-U6osE?si=mHJ0YTCV4DeFfv5-
The church is not held together by teachings of the prophets being confirmed as true, the church is held together by theories apologist come up with when prophet are proved wrong.
@@TheHolyRoast I love your videos. Two months ago I drove alone to Idaho. I started a "conversation" between myself and a "beliver" who was accusing me of lying about problems with the church. I wish I had recorder the heated verbal conversation I had with myself. As it went on I reversed the conversation to where I was trying to point out simple faith promoting stories in order to help the believer who had not become disallusioned. He would then tear them all down RFM and Bill Reel style. Then I found your videos doing what I had done on my trip and I love it.
I don’t believe in the lds church because I believe in the Book of Mormon. That was fun your impersonation of Jacob Hanson was spot on. No black man , kwaku with your blue hat, racist! Or chicken?
Not sure exactly what you mean, but Kwaku was in part 1 of this video series. He's too much a part of the apologetic scene to not make an appearance...
Nonsense, Dewey. The Brethren have frequently availed themselves of the results of so-called "apologetic" work, from the days when they would call Hugh Nibley to come up to SLC to brief them on this or that issue, to individual members of the Twelve attending meetings with scholars in Provo or in the Church History Library. Neal Maxwell was one of those frequently doing so, and I have personally witnessed Jeff Holland speaking at such an event. Hickman's rant is just silly at worst, and a non sequitur at best.
I’m aware of what you’re talking about @BobSmith-lb9nc. I once attended a FARMS presentation where Elder Maxwell was the opening speaker. But the apologists don’t get mentioned in General Conference. There are no articles highlighting them on the home page of the church’s website. The church leadership treats the apologists like you would an embarrassing relative: you can’t totally ignore them, but you do send them your annual family newsletter instead of inviting them to the reunion at Lake Powell.
@@TheHolyRoast More nonsense, Dewey: The Brethren went out of their way to have such materials published in the official Church magazine. Not only was Nibley always in the Improvement Era, but Sorenson published a ground-breaking two-part article on Mesoamerica as the Book of Mormon land in 1984. Many of the Gospel Topics Essays are written by those horrible "apologists," as you wrongly call them. Guess who saw to it? That's right the Brethren, of whom you are so contemptuous.
@@BobSmith-lb9nc The gospel doctrine essays? You mean the essays that the church never told the membership about? The essays that were buried so deep on the church website even the people who knew about them couldn’t find them? Those essays? Those will be the subject of many videos here, and I’ll be much more up front about their existence than the church ever was. As for the church magazine publishing apologist articles, that stopped happening once the internet came out and people could start fact checking them. Some examples from this century would strengthen your case a lot. Nibly hasn’t been published since before I learned how to read.
@@TheHolyRoast Well, yes, and B. H. Roberts was an apologist long before I could read, but so what? And there were Orson and Parley Pratt before him. Next you'll be condemning Leonard Arrington and his crew. I guess it's open season, and grist for your mill of dismissal. So forget about fairness or objectivity. Just lash out and attack anything and everything. The Gospel Topics Essays are well-written and easily accessible -- so that they must be condemned if they exist, and condemned if they don't. And just ignore Nibley's superabundant documentation. Nothing really matters, as per your version of "Bohemian Rhapsody," right?? 😃
These are so packed full of good points, I have to watch them multiple times to catch them all!
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😂 Providing apologetics so the brethren don't have to.
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LMAO! Can't wait for part 3
I have second hand embarrassment for whoever made this video 😬😅😂
I have first hand embarrassment for whoever made this video 😮
I have second hand embarrassment for whoever stays in the Mormon church.
Best proof of false profits!
When I open up my X-MO comedy club. I want to book you for the grand opening, lol. You come up with some funny stuff Dewey😅
X-MO comedy club? Keep me updated! If not on stage, at the very least I'd want to be in the audience
@@aaronclinger3521 At 58:48 I put a plug in for your exmo comedy club idea. It seemed to go over well th-cam.com/users/livemprhB-U6osE?si=mHJ0YTCV4DeFfv5-
@@TheHolyRoast that was such a great podcast. The calculator bit blew my mind, I was laughing my ars off! 😂
this was great
The church is not held together by teachings of the prophets being confirmed as true, the church is held together by theories apologist come up with when prophet are proved wrong.
@@ericredd4544 You may be more of a truth teller than some of our prophets...
@@TheHolyRoast I love your videos. Two months ago I drove alone to Idaho. I started a "conversation" between myself and a "beliver" who was accusing me of lying about problems with the church. I wish I had recorder the heated verbal conversation I had with myself. As it went on I reversed the conversation to where I was trying to point out simple faith promoting stories in order to help the believer who had not become disallusioned. He would then tear them all down RFM and Bill Reel style.
Then I found your videos doing what I had done on my trip and I love it.
@@ericredd4544 If you do start recording those conversations with yourself, put them on a TH-cam channel and let me know about it 😃
Separate from the church are the nemenhah records. Native Americans released them. They back the Book of Mormon, just not all things about the church.
I hadn't heard of this before--very interesting! What's your take on "The Sealed Portion-The Final Testament of Jesus Christ"?
Wow, this was painfully unfunny and desperate
“A crappy answer is better than no answer”
That one got me! Lol
@Billsbob That's also the title of my autobiography
Notice how our buddy billsbob doesn't offer a single counterargument.
I'm pretty sure that's what the last girl I went out with said afterward
I don’t believe in the lds church because I believe in the Book of Mormon. That was fun your impersonation of Jacob Hanson was spot on. No black man , kwaku with your blue hat, racist! Or chicken?
Not sure exactly what you mean, but Kwaku was in part 1 of this video series. He's too much a part of the apologetic scene to not make an appearance...
Nonsense, Dewey. The Brethren have frequently availed themselves of the results of so-called "apologetic" work, from the days when they would call Hugh Nibley to come up to SLC to brief them on this or that issue, to individual members of the Twelve attending meetings with scholars in Provo or in the Church History Library. Neal Maxwell was one of those frequently doing so, and I have personally witnessed Jeff Holland speaking at such an event. Hickman's rant is just silly at worst, and a non sequitur at best.
I’m aware of what you’re talking about @BobSmith-lb9nc. I once attended a FARMS presentation where Elder Maxwell was the opening speaker. But the apologists don’t get mentioned in General Conference. There are no articles highlighting them on the home page of the church’s website. The church leadership treats the apologists like you would an embarrassing relative: you can’t totally ignore them, but you do send them your annual family newsletter instead of inviting them to the reunion at Lake Powell.
@@TheHolyRoast More nonsense, Dewey: The Brethren went out of their way to have such materials published in the official Church magazine. Not only was Nibley always in the Improvement Era, but Sorenson published a ground-breaking two-part article on Mesoamerica as the Book of Mormon land in 1984. Many of the Gospel Topics Essays are written by those horrible "apologists," as you wrongly call them. Guess who saw to it? That's right the Brethren, of whom you are so contemptuous.
@@BobSmith-lb9nc The gospel doctrine essays? You mean the essays that the church never told the membership about? The essays that were buried so deep on the church website even the people who knew about them couldn’t find them? Those essays? Those will be the subject of many videos here, and I’ll be much more up front about their existence than the church ever was.
As for the church magazine publishing apologist articles, that stopped happening once the internet came out and people could start fact checking them. Some examples from this century would strengthen your case a lot. Nibly hasn’t been published since before I learned how to read.
@@TheHolyRoast Well, yes, and B. H. Roberts was an apologist long before I could read, but so what? And there were Orson and Parley Pratt before him. Next you'll be condemning Leonard Arrington and his crew. I guess it's open season, and grist for your mill of dismissal. So forget about fairness or objectivity. Just lash out and attack anything and everything.
The Gospel Topics Essays are well-written and easily accessible -- so that they must be condemned if they exist, and condemned if they don't. And just ignore Nibley's superabundant documentation. Nothing really matters, as per your version of "Bohemian Rhapsody," right?? 😃
@@BobSmith-lb9nc Did I leave my playbook out by accident? You've nailed it!