Trying Total War For the VERY FIRST TIME, PART ONE!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 พ.ค. 2024
- Real-Time Strategy newbie tries out Total War for the very first time! Chip takes a dive into Warhammer III in 2024 to see what all the fuss is about!
The cataclysmic conclusion to the Total War: WARHAMMER trilogy is here. Rally your forces and step into the Realm of Chaos, a dimension of mind-bending horror where the very fate of the world will be decided. Will you conquer your Daemons… or command them?
CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X
GPU: NVIDIA RTX 3070 - เกม
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A few tips for yourself and any other new TW players that could use them.
1. Always right click and drag to form a line when positioning your units. That way, you can form the line as wide or as narrow as you need, and can form it in the direction you need.
2. Always keep your ranged units behind your melee lines. You never want them in melee unless shit has hit the fan. The icon at the top of the unit card will tell you if it is melee, ranged, cavalry or artillery.
3. Hold Ctrl and 1,2,3 etc and learn to use ctrl groups. It gives you quick control of your units and allows you to react to things much faster.
4. Its almost always better to stretch your army wider than your opponent if possible and encircle him. Hitting him in the rear or flank will give leadership penalties and cause his weaker units to rout much faster, enabling you to bring increasing numbers to bear on his tougher units.
5. If both sides lines have clashed, use your archers to focus down their archers quickly, instead of firing into the melee and causing casualties among your own men.
6. Your melee units are mostly "fire and forget". Throw them into melee, and forget about them. Use that opportunity to micromanage your lords, ranged and especially cavalry.
Good luck with your campaign. This was fun to see a totally new players first time with tw. Looking forward to future videos. :)
Thank you so much for the information! Man, everyone has been so friendly and helpful!
You're not the only one to note that the melee units should be mostly shoved into combat and forgotten, so I'll definitely keep that in mind moving forward! I wasn't sure if friendly fire was a thing, but now that I know it is, I'll make sure my ranged units aren't killing my own soldiers!!
You don't always need to right click and drag you can ALT + drag units once you have them the length you want.
@@MutedAggression Yea no shit sherlock. He cant even form his lines yet and you want to throw advanced movement controls at him. Do you want him to actually remember anything? You dont teach babies Shakespeare. You start with the alphabet first.
yes, once an army is set up the way you want it to just select them all then hold alt and hold left mouse button to move them wherever you want. also very helpful is once you are in alt drag mode to move an army but want them to rotate without breaking formation simply hold ctrl and use your mouse movement to rotate them. holding space bar will always show you the positions where you've send your troops. these are the most useful tips. also if you've given an order by accident you can select that unit and click the hand icon (stop). don't know the shortcut off the top of my head
@ebenezerscrew4560 iirc I think it's just backspace to get units to stop moving.
Watching someone playing for the first time makes me feel old. I have no idea how am I 2,3k hours in that game, I feel like I just bought it a month ago. Welcome aboard to the warhammer community, I will wait for you to
BE CALLED BY A NATION
A NATION THAT MARSHALS THE MEN
A NATION THAT HAS HIS CONSENT
The time truly flies! Thank you for the warm welcome, and I look forward to achieving my own veteran status in the Total War world!
wekcome to the community pal! And dont stress yourself to look like an insane good player you get there soon enough and look forward to dive 600h into the game without having each faction played once XD
My wife will miss me.....
She is free to join you any time 😌
Actually most of that DLCs are for game 1 and 2 and were released prior WH3, but they are also DLC for WH3 at the same time, yes it is strange. And if you own WH3 and own WH1 and/or WH2, they both will work as big LL DLCs for WH3 adding most of its content to WH3 (except narrative campaigns).
I don't own either of the other games yet, unfortunately. Gotta wait till those go on sale! Don't wanna pay $60 each for games a decade old!
@@ChipHardbody yes, I've alaways reccomended to buy DLC for TWH only on sales cause there are A LOT of them. On sale they usually drop 50% of the price on DLCs and 66-75% on first two games. But also even the base WH3 game has enough content for 100+ hours of gameplay so I would not reccomend to rush on all DLCs.
@@ChipHardbody you dont have to get all DLC, there will be races you dont like and you can leave those alone(I hate lizards and beastmen).
Check out total war access for FLC
@@dillonfloyd Ooh, so many cool wallpapers to download! And e-books! Hell, yeah, thanks for the info!
As a long time total war player (recently got into warhammer myself) i really liked the prolouge of this game. One tip i will pass on, not sure if anyone else said this yet. If you get your melee troops in a group and lock that group, when you send them into a charge or attack they will attack the units in front instead of having to specifically select and give attack orders. Take the game slow, learn, die, win. Its all you can do and then the war crimes will follow 😂 Have fun!
Thank you for the encouragement and advice!
TW warhammer 3 as your first RTS ever is a wild but at the same time awesome looking forward to watching more. Quick tip when you group specifically melee units and want every unit in that group to attack different units just click the padlock next to the group number and this will lock the formation so when you order the group to attack they will move towards the target and every individual unit will attack the units infront of them
Just a tip dont just click to move the units use the form a line mechanic to either spread your units thin or pack them together
Seconded, clicking and dragging with right click is the way to go. That way, you can be very specific about what direction they're facing. It's a lifesaver when positioning ranged units
@@revverb7459 yeah that's the way to go!
The newness in this is fun to watch.
I'm glad!
Welcome to the community!!!! It is so interesting to watch a new players initial experience.
Thank you! I'm happy to have finally gotten into this game/series, and everyone has been so welcoming and encouraging!
@@ChipHardbody If you have any interest, I would be happy to run a multi-player campaign with ya at some point. I have a little over 3k hours throughout the series and this game is much easier to learn with friends!
@@Mr.Anderson__ I think that would be a lot of fun to do a little ways down the road! For now, I'm keeping it solo, but I'm definitely interested in playing with other people once I have a few hours under my belt!
God I hate this kind of content - it just hooks me right in and I have to watch it all then go play total war XD Nice vid dude! subbed
Hah, I both apologize and laugh maniacally!
Thanks for the sub, it is very appreciated!!
Breaking the enemy unit's morale and having them rout is satisfying, tutorial or not! It's why I love playing Bretonnia, cavalry charges are addictive.
It is SO satisfying! I gotta get better with cavalry; I want to break those lines!
Warhammer Fantasy takes inspiration from real life cultures for their factions. So Kislev resembling Russia is on purpose. You will also see other factions like Cathey that are basically China, or the Empire that is Germany, or the lizardmen that take inspiration from Aztec/Mayan/Inca culture etc.
I did not know that. It makes a lot of sense, though, now that I do! Thanks for the info!
@@ChipHardbody once you get to the gigantic Immortal Empires map you will notice that the continents are shaped roughly the same as in the real world. So a lot of these factions will sit roughly where you would expect them to be in real life.
Holy Roman Empire not Germany...
The best advice I can give an rts noob is pretty simple, change pause from P to Spacebar and enjoy the best damn warhammer game ever made. You'll pick up tricks as you play and learn the factions and how to deal with or fight with them. Don't worry so much about playing perfectly as mistakes will happen and they can be fun!
I'm definitely rebinding pause to Spacebar! Thanks for the advice!
You should do a full stream on this, i have an insane amount of hours in the game. Watching a new player would be pretty entertaining, especially on the high difficulties.
Oh, I definitely will be streaming my adventures! Making videos is easier for me right now, but a full stream is in the pipeline!
Fun to watch, can't wait to see you progress into playing legendary campaign difficulty on immortal empires!!
Oh, boy, that's gonna be a long way down the line! I'll get there, though! Thank you for watching!!
@ChipHardbody Once you get your teeth into this game, you'll be hooked! I'm a massive 40k fan, but a friend got me into this game after playing the vermintide games. Little to say, I'm addicted and there is so much depth to discover 😂 I wish I could play for the first time again! Enjoy it!
Good luck on Warhammer 3 , pal!
This game can be challenging, but it's extremely rewarding!
It's going to require a bit of practice and studying to become an effective Commander.
Thank you! I look forward to improving and embracing the challenge!
Just for clarification, Horus Heresy is on Warhammer 40K. Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40K have basically the same laws of nature, are kind of parallel but they are not the same universe. 40K is not fantasy 40.000 years in the future. I love both settings, but fantasy has a special place in my heart. Welcome to the ultimate epicness :D
I appreciate the clarification! I love both properties, but I get the lore mixed up occasionally. Fantasy is definitely taking over my interest for now; I'm a sucker for fantasy lore and games.
@@ChipHardbody I have to agree with that. Fantasy even though not as popular as the 40K universe, is still the best medieval fantasy universe that exists. The more you play and learn about the different races, the more you will love them. :D I always played total war games, but I have over 8 thousand hours on all the warhammer total war games xD
oh yeah a bit confusing but like, total war itself is a franchise of game
total war: warhammer is just a "total war" game with the theme of "warhammer" by gamesworkshop specifically warhammer fantasy aka the old world, which is not the space 40k dudes.
warhammer fantasy is pretty much a parody of real life, the empire being holy german empire, the dwarves being some sort of mix between scottish-irish-scandinavia, norsca being norse vikings, cathay being china, tomb kings being ancient egypt, dark elves being north america,....
if you like the classic, history ones then they've made quite a lot of historical games like medieval (europe-north america during medieval times i think), shogun (edo period i think), three kingdoms, rome, troy, pharaoh, genghis khan, napoleon,...
warhammer 3 has the largest map by-far in tbh, pretty much all total war games. there're a lot of races (each races having 1-4 factions) and quite overwhelming to know what they do and how to counter them but if you know the basics then you'll do well in battle (use the wiki, it's really useful)
immortal empire is the largest campaign that combines both 1 and 2 and 3's realms of chaos mini-campaign storyline thing
If you still like the game - and want someone to play against (landbattles PvP), let me know. I am also quite new to this game and the magic part is what I am struggling with - I have more than enough trying to control all the units and figure out what is happening on the battlefield, to have time to look and cast spells. I have tried some PvP landbattles mostly against a friend and I lost 99% of those, so I need someone equally new to this game to practice with - loosing in the first 5 minutes of the game every time is not very motivating.
I’m down I also suck at pvp I can’t even beat a campaign on hard difficulty I can on medium and easy but it doesn’t feel like a challenge steam is KraZee MCee
Good luck!
Thank you! So far, so good!
fun watch! i hope you keep up. This game is so weird and fun, and you dont even need to be that good to enjoy it
Oh, I'll definitely keep going! I'm having a blast, and I'm definitely not very good (yet)! Thanks for watching!
Dont worry to much about not being to great at it on stream, as a seasoned total war player its quite nice to experience wh3 through fresh eyes. Really hope you make it through the tutorial and into the main game!
Thank you! I'm definitely gonna be making it through, but it might not be pretty! 🤣🤣
I'm sure others have already pointed it out, but Total War: Warhammer is fantasy, Horus Heresy takes place in Warhammer 40K, a sci-fi setting with SOME similarities to fantasy but pretty different also.
Yeah, some people have corrected my error! I enjoy both Warhammer 40k & Fantasy, but I get the lores mixed up sometimes!
I highly recommend the audible Horus Heresy audiobooks and the voice acting is pretty good and helps bring the characters alive a bit more. Also Legendof TotalWar is a great resource for learning how to play TotalWar Warhammer he has some great videos and really helped me up my game/ fun experience.
I actually did listen to the first Horus Heresy volume on Audiobook, and it was excellent!
And I subscribed to LegendofTotalWar thanks to this comment, so thank you for the recommendation!
@@ChipHardbody also some of the Horus Heresy books are a collection of short stories and can be kinda hit and miss in quality but I think they’re worth listening to for the world building and some of them are actually really good and could’ve been a book on their own lol
subbed for part 2 and beyond and hope to watch your first immortal empires journey (wouldnt recommend realm of chaos anymore since immortal empires is out but you do you and learn at your own pace)
Thank you for the sub and for the encouragement! Immortal Empires is definitely the destination in mind!
I know im a little late to the party- but if you like stories with characters screaming at the heavens and being angry at deity figures... you should definitely take a look at the Tales of the Malazan, Book of the Fallen series by Steven Ericson! Its a long one- but very rewarding.
I'll get through the rest of your vids that are out and leave a few tips when i get caught up! Been playing total war for a few years now and there are always new things to learn!
I love long books, so I'll definitely check out those books! Thank you!
@Chip Harbody assuming you’ve played some more since this video. Which faction are you liking so far?
Hah, unfortunately, I'm still playing through the Prologue! It's a lot longer than I expected, and I don't get to play for very long at a time thanks to chronic pain and other obligations. But, honestly, Kislev is pretty neat so far!
you've got 2 archer units look at your unit cards along bottom you've got 1 archer in mele don't do that unless they got no ammo also spread your units out big clumps get stuffed from arty or spells thiner lines take less damage and put more troops in fighting line 27:46 watch your troops get smashed because you got 2 clumps right behind each other so arty goes through 2 units you can setup units into groups by holding ctrl and clicking on unit cards ie click 2 archers then press num 1 you can then press 1 to select both archers as group 1 then you can do same with other units to have quick select on them
Appreciate the insight! I'm definitely gonna focus on keeping the archers OUT of melee, which I think I did a better job of in the Skollden battle!
Newb here as well, with thinner lines, do you mean less broad formations or should we stick them behind each other? Broader lines seem a bit of a waste if it's twice as wide as the enemy's line
@@xNachtmahRx By thinner lines, he means right clicking and dragging to form your unit into a defensive line. When you do that, you almost always want to pull them as wide as they can go to help make magic spells hit as few targets as possible within the unit. You almost never want your unit formed into a blob as they can easily be wiped out then by a single well placed magic spell.
Always keep your ranged units behind your melee lines. If that means you have pulled your army out much wider than your opponent, use that to encircle his entire force and attack them from all sides. Its not a waste for your lines to be wider than his if you can encircle him.
@@fatbap Thank you for the detailed reply! I do really like the idea of encircling the enemy forces....
Lovely video
Thank you so much!
Blood DLC is must have - it adds a lot of effects and animations
Its cheap and never goes on sale i believe because this is part of the base game that sold separately to reduce the age rating.
Interesting. I'll throw it in the cart! Thanks for the recommendation!
This makes me wanna play Total war for the first time again, Love the easygoing vibe, very nice little brake between studying, will probably be back
Thanks so much! Good luck on your studies!
Just happened across this and I am extremely interested in how you do and learn if your willing to pursue this endeavour.
Also TWW3 is a big big leap but hey here with you and turn the difficulty down to easy if you need so u can get the hang of it all.....I'm writing this while your watching the open sequence lol
Thank you for watching!
A fine choice sir and what a year to pick it up..................also "flight of the eisenstien" is god tier reading
Drink every time someone says Dervingard
One cutscene later, DEAD.
They sound russian cause Kislev faction was inspired by real life Slavic nations mainly russians, polish and ukrainians.
Bro if you're reading Horus Heresy I highly recommend finding a good reading list, Its a great series but there are some stinkers and some really irrelevant books, don't try to read the whole thing in release order.
I made that mistake.
I appreciate the advice! I'm working my way through False Gods right now, and I'll definitely consult a reading list for where to go after Galaxy in Flames!
@@ChipHardbody Cool, after the first 4 books the narrative splits.
im a huge total war fan. i own all but pharo. i have like 5k hours in warhammer 3 total war mostly immortal empire (cause thats the best) if u ever need advice hit me up. i will watch ur vids and if i see u need help with something and notice u havnt figured it out by the end of ur vid ill comment.
I appreciate any and all advice!
well once you have all of the DLCs and race packs. you can easily put in 3000 hours into this game.
I can see that happening without me even realizing it, honestly!
@@ChipHardbody yep, I have a little over 3600 hours currently in all three games. they are so addicting.
Do you have a discord server? As a veteran total war player i might be able to give you some tips
I do! The link is in my "About" section on the channel's Home Page!
good luck if your new you should really try shogun 2
Thank you! I'll definitely be checking out other Total War titles in the future!
Warhammer is fun. But if you want a more ''realistic' RTS with better balance you should try one of the historical ones. Warhammer is just dumb fun but balance is out of the window with it ;)
Good to know! I've been eyeing some of the other titles, for sure! I'm looking at Pharaoh, but I've been seeing not great reviews of it.
@@ChipHardbody If you are looking for more realistic warfare gameplay you should check out Napoleon Total War or Total War: Shogun 2 and its standalone DLC Total War: Shogun 2: Fall of the Samurai.
@@ChipHardbody try Shogun2 Fall of the Samurai. graphics still decent