Dude I’m experiencing the same thing right now with Library of Ruina, since I’m trying to beat the game with only Roland’s floor. Needless to say, there were some brutal spikes so far, and I’m still not done with the game, but learning how to make decks that revolve around things I’ve never even looked at before (like I had no idea how powerful Bamboo hat was) and building actual ranged decks. Needless to say, I’m having much more fun with it than I expected to.
Well it just makes sense. If you're not doing SOME kind of challenge run, you wouldn't be using any of these, and if you weren't doing one THIS bad you'd probably rely on your preconceived biases of the units because you'd have additional good units pulling most of the weight. Using all the bad units really shows you how they work when they're all you can rely on
@@anabsoluteimbecile4105 oh damn I actually did the same challenge a couple months back, although I cheated by using a mod to get the black silence key page at the beginning of Star of The City. Kind of a wuss move, but the BS page is so cool and such a large draw of the general works floor that I thought the run would be a bit boring without it. (Plus Xiao and Kali still beat my ass multiple times over anyways lmao) Until that playthrough, I never realized how fun the Pinocchio pages are to use, especially with the Purple Tear key page. the light cost randomization page synergizes super well with any pages that increase the power of a specific damage type, like Overthrow, since you can spam all of them on the same turn to get insane power boosts if you get lucky with light costs. And if I wasn't lucky enough to get it, I had a different deck on PT that didn't have any page draw, which was for the abno page that shuffled all of your pages and gave you four random ones. Currently I'm attempting a general reception pages only playthrough, and I'm at Urban Plague right now. So far it's been surprisingly easy outside of having to break into the first tier of Urban Plague.
I don't regret a second of it. Even if the boulder falls back down, I accomplished what I wanted to accomplish. So really, one MUST imagine ESGOO happy.
I really love the small text jokes you put in the video that you have to stop and read it, It adds so much to the video also makes it really rewatchable The quality of your work is astounding per usual
I don't think I've seen anyone else go this in depth on the game mechanics in Limbus. This is really well organized and while I'm only a few minutes in, you're already making a damn good case for how hard this is gonna be. Good shit, dog.
Seriously, I had only an inkling of an idea how the hell Offense and Defense levels worked and/or if they had effects on clashes until I found ESGOO. He really helps me understand what makes something in this game effective, ineffective, or somewhere in between.
dont even know what game this is or how the hell you play but seeing some one decent into madness to systematicaly find the worst team and win is entertaining
The editing to this video was so clean and formatting was easy on the eyes, I really liked it. 👍🏻 I watched the whole thing even when it was just you talking about the pros and cons of the worse ID’s you had to use. I be happy to wait and see part 2 to see you managed to make a completed run of the railway with this horrible, agonising and unsyngising team possible.
14:43 "it was a small way to save on EGO resources and therefore sanity" Might be one of the smartest lines ive heard in a while. Incredible play on words
As someone with BOTH Marachi Sinclair and Blade Outis uptied... I am here to see if I can stay this stubborn and find new usages for them. Praying for people who go in such depth of game mechanics 🙏
I find it funny how branch of knowledge was terrible on this run but was pulling me through on my rupture run due to half the skills in talisclair chains being useless
I find Talsiman Sinclair is better for his support passive, since giving K Corp Hong Lu 8 Talisman + his dimension shredder UT4 gives you an AOE 8 rupture and 4 rupture count
I’m so excited to see how this run goes in the next video! Take your time with it. I’ll be completely fine and happy if you shit on everyone of these IDs including base Meursault but I am glad that you did this challenge. Not because I’m a sadist but because it truly is an eye opener on how every little piece can matter in a team comp. Always loved myself a David vs Goliath story
I mean, I actually genuinely used Sloshing a lot back when I started Limbus, because she had really good resource production for me at the time. Then I got Rabbit heath, and my gluttony problem was solved. Oh, and Spicebush Yi Sang.
As someone who just started a week ago, I regularly run base Faust and Sloshing Ishmael... because, uh, Ishmael's Ardor Blossom Star EGO go brr I guess? I now have W Faust, but sometimes running base Faust just works better for the overall team synergy (read: provides better resources) - and her base Passive is, as far as my teams go, surprisingly useful since the enemy almost always has a debuff on them. Instead, I have a burning vengeance against Cinq Outis, because she draws aggro but dies in negative 3 hits, so she's just draining sanity.
Your videos really inspired me and encouraged me to do some tips and guides video. The video on tanks and discard mechanic helped me so much, thank you!
Fairly new to the channel, really like how you convey information across all your videos - very thorough without being overwhelming. Looking forward to part 2.
thank you for this video, if you could finish refraction railway 2 with the worst possible team then that clearly means it should be more than possible for me to finish the entire game with only base ids
Thanks, this makes me think I could actually clear the railway (I'm new and I don't have purist charge team, therefore I'm doomed with my Liu team (atleast it's funny))
Word of advice, you can beat rr2 with basically anything suficiently leveled team. Turn counts really only matter for the steam robot abno and for the special banners which are just cosmetic anyway.
@@funninoriginal6054 well the other problem is that I just started playing about last month and I just found out some mechanics that I don't know before (I never knew offense level is helpful in clashes). I do have some good ID (i.e. I Need More Boulets), though still not 35upt4. The last time I tried I died to fox at 0 cycle (pre-I Need More Boulets) and I was thinking about sharding the purist charge team but I was too lazy to actually farm MD for hours...so yeah wish me luck. Edit = also, thanks for the advice.
It's certainly possible, and honestly I considered the Liu team as it seems pretty fun! I also just love the chargebros, and burn MIGHT come in handy for some of the tankier fights. What made me not do it is the fact you have to fight the talisman doll 5 times, and for some reason he deals your burn damage back to you. I have no clue why they did that to burn only, as if burn wasn't suffering enough already...
@@adityaardhynugraha5033 Esgoo covers some pretty important mechanics so you can binge his videos if you want. Also, rr2 allows you to grab one ID from your friends, so you dont need to level and uptie absolutely everything. If you want, i can share my friend code so you can borrow ids from me.
Gratz, madman. I think Liu overall is worse than Chef, and he will fit better on the worst team. And for the worst possible challenge, which will be even more painful, do not use any gacha E.G.O and E.G.O other than from the free line of the second season BP, except Ryōshū Soda.
Ok now 150 it In all seriousness, ive actually uptied both g corp outis and mariachi sinclair for the sole purpose of sinking, hes not too bad when soley being used for sinking He's got great on hit effects with good sinking, but cant clash for his life, so gaining so outside of a direct faust fuel line is difficult, uptying him to have reliable effects is actually massive
Y'know, hearing about how guard falls apart purely due to on hit status effects makes me wish that guard had a deflect like in LoR, like if the attack doesn't deal hp damage the attack is considered deflected and thus it's effects, even if on hit, are null.
what did you mean by perreando at 13:51 ? tried translating it but couldn't get it. i know its 'this little german boy is _____' but thats all i got;; did you misspell it maybe?
16:54 people hate the mariachi man??? I thought everyone loved that id because of how just how absurd it was- this information will not be enough to stop me from never using any of his other ids, but it’s still odd to hear
This is my first time seeing someone explain Limbus mechanics like this and I never knew about ego or that you could use it in battle simply because I skipped the tutorial lol
The team I built to clear railway wasn't bad by any means, but I realized pretty quickly that I had two absolutely horrible deficiencies in sin generation with Gloom and Pride which was an awful pair of things to get fucked by. It got so bad that I had to take thirsting last to avoid constantly being at 0 gloom XD.
I legit don't get why they introduced a bunch of IDs that have decent tremor count application, only to have those same units then consume more than their fair share of tremor count. And especially why Lob EGO Ishmael needed to have the heaviest penalty when she only has slight tremor count gains.
Wait, Base Faust is the worst ID in the game or the worst Base ID in the game? Your wording confused me, does that mean in a future list she'll be a part of the bottom 5 worst IDs, now? Guessing you'll go more into it in Part 2, Im excited!
The worst BASE ID he didn't want to use too many of them but hilariously enough some base IDs are better than most of their respective 2* ID's. All of Faust's other ID's are pretty decent for the most part if not outright good most of the time her base being pretty mediocre even in the realm of base ID's
So this was a question I asked myself too, but I ultimately decided to just use the most useless support passives, instead of one that would actually harm me. If I could go back, I would change Ncliff to Suncliff. I do not think it would have been that much worse, since it mostly would have meant Slosh or Zwei Rodion got hit. They didn’t struggle with sanity too much, so the Blunt DMG up was kind of a benefit.
I'm still pretty new to the game, what do you mean when you say that an ID has negative/positive offense level/defense level? I'm aware these are appliable buffs/debuffs, but do IDs have certain increases/reductions to these levels by default?
Every skill has an offense lvl modifier. Offense lvl is sinner lvl + modifier. Base Mersault has -3 to offense lvl on all skills so at lvl 12 his offense lvl is 12-3=9. Every sinner has defense lvl modifier. Base Mersault has +3.
@@zephyrprime8 when you look at id it will have a shield with a number thats your defense lvl. Hover over it to see your modifier. When you look at a skill you will have a sword icon. Hover over it to see your modifier. This is on the same screen where you lvl up sinners.
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Challenge runs permanently warping your perception of reality on how IDs work in this game is my favourite genre of character development
Dude I’m experiencing the same thing right now with Library of Ruina, since I’m trying to beat the game with only Roland’s floor. Needless to say, there were some brutal spikes so far, and I’m still not done with the game, but learning how to make decks that revolve around things I’ve never even looked at before (like I had no idea how powerful Bamboo hat was) and building actual ranged decks. Needless to say, I’m having much more fun with it than I expected to.
It’s chronic.
The curtain is there for a reason.
Well it just makes sense. If you're not doing SOME kind of challenge run, you wouldn't be using any of these, and if you weren't doing one THIS bad you'd probably rely on your preconceived biases of the units because you'd have additional good units pulling most of the weight. Using all the bad units really shows you how they work when they're all you can rely on
@@anabsoluteimbecile4105 oh damn I actually did the same challenge a couple months back, although I cheated by using a mod to get the black silence key page at the beginning of Star of The City. Kind of a wuss move, but the BS page is so cool and such a large draw of the general works floor that I thought the run would be a bit boring without it. (Plus Xiao and Kali still beat my ass multiple times over anyways lmao)
Until that playthrough, I never realized how fun the Pinocchio pages are to use, especially with the Purple Tear key page. the light cost randomization page synergizes super well with any pages that increase the power of a specific damage type, like Overthrow, since you can spam all of them on the same turn to get insane power boosts if you get lucky with light costs. And if I wasn't lucky enough to get it, I had a different deck on PT that didn't have any page draw, which was for the abno page that shuffled all of your pages and gave you four random ones.
Currently I'm attempting a general reception pages only playthrough, and I'm at Urban Plague right now. So far it's been surprisingly easy outside of having to break into the first tier of Urban Plague.
Project Moon fans try not to voluntarily torture themselves challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
That's what any gaming community tries to do make something more difficult
LobCorp numbs you to this sort of torture just by existing
And so Sisyphus I must ask...How does it feel?
To have rolled the boulder to the top of the mountain.
I don't regret a second of it. Even if the boulder falls back down, I accomplished what I wanted to accomplish. So really, one MUST imagine ESGOO happy.
@@therealESGOO Wait is that a Ultrakill sisyphus reference
I hope you recorded it all. I would love to fall asleep to the agonizing cries of a 20 hour railway run.
My entire Cycle 4 experience was recorded. So not quite 20 hours, but the Cycle 4 raw footage is about 5 hours long...so...
@@therealESGOO We will paciently wait for that recording to be released.
@@therealESGOO Id kill to see the full fae lantern fight
This video is the limbus company equivalent of that one lobotomy Corp vídeo of killing whitenight with a single employee and zayin ego
I really love the small text jokes you put in the video that you have to stop and read it, It adds so much to the video also makes it really rewatchable The quality of your work is astounding per usual
Indeed!!
I don't think I've seen anyone else go this in depth on the game mechanics in Limbus. This is really well organized and while I'm only a few minutes in, you're already making a damn good case for how hard this is gonna be.
Good shit, dog.
Seriously, I had only an inkling of an idea how the hell Offense and Defense levels worked and/or if they had effects on clashes until I found ESGOO. He really helps me understand what makes something in this game effective, ineffective, or somewhere in between.
dont even know what game this is or how the hell you play but seeing some one decent into madness to systematicaly find the worst team and win is entertaining
one must imagine his happiness
and one can only imagine how horrible would steam transport be without 10 millions nuke aiming at it
Steam Transport was already misrable with my Base Sinner run.
i aspire to be as masochistic as ESGOO
Don't.
Nicely done! Now is time to do a sub 150 turn run!
I'm sure I do not need to say it. But it IS impossible sadly.
I love umineko soundtrack, thank's for using it!
Sudden umineko music woke me tf up like a sleeper agent
The editing to this video was so clean and formatting was easy on the eyes, I really liked it. 👍🏻
I watched the whole thing even when it was just you talking about the pros and cons of the worse ID’s you had to use.
I be happy to wait and see part 2 to see you managed to make a completed run of the railway with this horrible, agonising and unsyngising team possible.
Thank you, I’m always glad to hear people enjoy the editing
One must imagine ESGOO happy
But really congrats for finishing this run.
14:43 "it was a small way to save on EGO resources and therefore sanity"
Might be one of the smartest lines ive heard in a while. Incredible play on words
After being called out in the RR3 video, I’m here and I’m already hooked.
This guy toys with the fire that eats away at your very will to live. respect
BRuh, that line goes hard as hell
absolute madman, well done!
As someone with BOTH Marachi Sinclair and Blade Outis uptied... I am here to see if I can stay this stubborn and find new usages for them. Praying for people who go in such depth of game mechanics 🙏
Oh you have to uptime funny maraca man-but I’m with you on BL outis
Absolutely love these vids, also just helps me understand the game that much more, hope all the best for you on future masochistic endeavours.
I find it funny how branch of knowledge was terrible on this run but was pulling me through on my rupture run due to half the skills in talisclair chains being useless
I find Talsiman Sinclair is better for his support passive, since giving K Corp Hong Lu 8 Talisman + his dimension shredder UT4 gives you an AOE 8 rupture and 4 rupture count
I’m so excited to see how this run goes in the next video! Take your time with it. I’ll be completely fine and happy if you shit on everyone of these IDs including base Meursault but I am glad that you did this challenge. Not because I’m a sadist but because it truly is an eye opener on how every little piece can matter in a team comp. Always loved myself a David vs Goliath story
We appreciate your sacrifice for even attempting this ESGOO I can almost feel your soon to be distortion incoming
as someone who started in season 4
please PM allow older railways to be replayable
I may be a diehard ismael fan but sloshing ismael literally made me say "what the hell is this bs?" when I saw her stats 😭
I still find Slosh Ishmael being underapreciated in her role of being the meat shield.
I couldn't beat the 5 cycle with the BEST team possible I'm so fucking bad at this game man, I'm in awe at your lunatic run
13:48 Watching this in expectation for RR4; Can't believe you did mexican slang better than PM
Wow I really learned something thank you ESGOO :)
Lol, thank you for another great video, the most informative limbus creator for sure
I mean, I actually genuinely used Sloshing a lot back when I started Limbus, because she had really good resource production for me at the time. Then I got Rabbit heath, and my gluttony problem was solved. Oh, and Spicebush Yi Sang.
As someone who just started a week ago, I regularly run base Faust and Sloshing Ishmael... because, uh, Ishmael's Ardor Blossom Star EGO go brr I guess? I now have W Faust, but sometimes running base Faust just works better for the overall team synergy (read: provides better resources) - and her base Passive is, as far as my teams go, surprisingly useful since the enemy almost always has a debuff on them. Instead, I have a burning vengeance against Cinq Outis, because she draws aggro but dies in negative 3 hits, so she's just draining sanity.
Your videos really inspired me and encouraged me to do some tips and guides video.
The video on tanks and discard mechanic helped me so much, thank you!
A great vid as per usual , looking forward to the next part
ESGOO! I ORDER YOU TO TAKE A BREAK AND AN SP BULLET TO RECOVER! (Love your content.)
I was really hopping to see the sinclair life time supply stew.
Specially if it was at uptie 4.
Fairly new to the channel, really like how you convey information across all your videos - very thorough without being overwhelming. Looking forward to part 2.
truthfully, the best kind of victory is a close one, and there was no victory closer than this.
Wow I really learned something ESGOO thank you for the video :)
thank you for this video, if you could finish refraction railway 2 with the worst possible team then that clearly means it should be more than possible for me to finish the entire game with only base ids
22:33
Don’t think I missed that usage of the Umineko soundtrack, ESGOO.
This run is pretty much bringing the sense of right alliance to fight the villains of the avengers
The fub about taking Meursault is that well. THE MULTITUDE TIGHTENS ITS HOLD. Debuffing someone to hell is always really funny
Thanks, this makes me think I could actually clear the railway (I'm new and I don't have purist charge team, therefore I'm doomed with my Liu team (atleast it's funny))
Word of advice, you can beat rr2 with basically anything suficiently leveled team. Turn counts really only matter for the steam robot abno and for the special banners which are just cosmetic anyway.
@@funninoriginal6054 well the other problem is that I just started playing about last month and I just found out some mechanics that I don't know before (I never knew offense level is helpful in clashes).
I do have some good ID (i.e. I Need More Boulets), though still not 35upt4. The last time I tried I died to fox at 0 cycle (pre-I Need More Boulets) and I was thinking about sharding the purist charge team but I was too lazy to actually farm MD for hours...so yeah wish me luck.
Edit = also, thanks for the advice.
It's certainly possible, and honestly I considered the Liu team as it seems pretty fun! I also just love the chargebros, and burn MIGHT come in handy for some of the tankier fights.
What made me not do it is the fact you have to fight the talisman doll 5 times, and for some reason he deals your burn damage back to you. I have no clue why they did that to burn only, as if burn wasn't suffering enough already...
@@DemPopI wished they just made him "resist burn" (capped at 30 potency 5 count) if they wanted to gimp it not make it actively kill you back
@@adityaardhynugraha5033
Esgoo covers some pretty important mechanics so you can binge his videos if you want. Also, rr2 allows you to grab one ID from your friends, so you dont need to level and uptie absolutely everything. If you want, i can share my friend code so you can borrow ids from me.
I didn't expect you to limit yourself to only 7 active team members, absolute madness
super exciting premise, I feel suspense in finding out how it all worked out, and which sinners were the best of the worst and carry the team
Gratz, madman.
I think Liu overall is worse than Chef, and he will fit better on the worst team.
And for the worst possible challenge, which will be even more painful, do not use any gacha E.G.O and E.G.O other than from the free line of the second season BP, except Ryōshū Soda.
UT4 Liu Gregor actually gets clash power though
@@bigbrojz66Only vs. 6 burns, while this team can't maintain this without picking 2 burn buffs in railway
aw yeah, I've been waiting for this!
Ok now 150 it
In all seriousness, ive actually uptied both g corp outis and mariachi sinclair for the sole purpose of sinking, hes not too bad when soley being used for sinking
He's got great on hit effects with good sinking, but cant clash for his life, so gaining so outside of a direct faust fuel line is difficult, uptying him to have reliable effects is actually massive
...thanks for making me feel bad about RR being too hard for me with my team of viable IDs for each slot
gotta respect the determination holy
LETS GO ITS 11:42 A.M. AND I AM HYPEDDD
Y'know, hearing about how guard falls apart purely due to on hit status effects makes me wish that guard had a deflect like in LoR, like if the attack doesn't deal hp damage the attack is considered deflected and thus it's effects, even if on hit, are null.
That intro was just top notch
I am so sorry you have to experience that
WE MAKIN IT OUT FAELANTERNS GAY BABY JAIL WITH THIS ONE
what did you mean by perreando at 13:51 ? tried translating it but couldn't get it. i know its 'this little german boy is _____' but thats all i got;; did you misspell it maybe?
I feel so deceived, I can’t believe it would be advertised as the worst team even though they were not lvl 1 and uptie 1
16:54 people hate the mariachi man??? I thought everyone loved that id because of how just how absurd it was-
this information will not be enough to stop me from never using any of his other ids, but it’s still odd to hear
Wake up Honey, New ESGOO Video came out
14:00 as a native spanish speaker, i went into ego corrosion for reading this.
I will be alerting my companions that this new ESGOO video dropped.
another big smarty video from the big smarty man!
realest pm fan ever
This is my first time seeing someone explain Limbus mechanics like this and I never knew about ego or that you could use it in battle simply because I skipped the tutorial lol
We love Rose'Sault in these parts, don't even start anything
(I have no better ID xd)
Ok first 30sec of the video is gold
THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO LET’S GOOOOO I’M GONNA ENJOY THE SHIT OUTTA THIS
"happiness was not a factor" - this is so ruina 😢
As a 1 week old limbus player, i am having information overload on all these units
The pain,the pain is real
That is crazy, im VERY interested
It honestly surprises me that you made with the worst ID’s when I can’t even beat the first boss no matter what I do
Meanwhile I have absolutely no idea how to beat a good 75% of this railway because I still have no idea how combat works in this game.
It's not a pmoon game without a side of pain and suffering
So to recover from the trauma of the worst possible RR run, what would you do to have a catharsis run?
Zwei Gregor solo MD2H. Stacking Defense Level Ups just hits the brain correctly.
2:53 lol
I'm so proud of you
Dear god. This is gonna be a trainwreck, isn't it?
Crazy intro 10/10
The team I built to clear railway wasn't bad by any means, but I realized pretty quickly that I had two absolutely horrible deficiencies in sin generation with Gloom and Pride which was an awful pair of things to get fucked by. It got so bad that I had to take thirsting last to avoid constantly being at 0 gloom XD.
MFW I realize Zwei Sinclair and Mariachi Sinclair are my only 2 Sinclair IDs 💀
I wasn't expecting Stephen Hawking as the first 2 words.
I legit don't get why they introduced a bunch of IDs that have decent tremor count application, only to have those same units then consume more than their fair share of tremor count.
And especially why Lob EGO Ishmael needed to have the heaviest penalty when she only has slight tremor count gains.
Glory!
Need more protection?
SUN for the SHOWER
This seems like it would be horibly painful
Oi can we get more of this?
It's peak
i cant believe sloshing ishmael carried
WOW!!!!!!!!! SO GOOD!!!!! SUGOI!!!!
Mariachi sinclair is busting a move sexual style
My only usable Faust ID is W-Faust. I was using B-Faust for Fluid Sac way too long
definition of insanity
I used base Faust for most of the game, got her upto level 33
Edit: I used her until 4-30. I was quite underleveled for most of the game
hope the best for you
There's always a thing in common when it comes to PM community.
*They were all a masochist.*
Wait, Base Faust is the worst ID in the game or the worst Base ID in the game? Your wording confused me, does that mean in a future list she'll be a part of the bottom 5 worst IDs, now?
Guessing you'll go more into it in Part 2, Im excited!
The worst BASE ID he didn't want to use too many of them but hilariously enough some base IDs are better than most of their respective 2* ID's. All of Faust's other ID's are pretty decent for the most part if not outright good most of the time her base being pretty mediocre even in the realm of base ID's
Wouldn’t sunshower heathcliff be a worse passive?
So this was a question I asked myself too, but I ultimately decided to just use the most useless support passives, instead of one that would actually harm me. If I could go back, I would change Ncliff to Suncliff. I do not think it would have been that much worse, since it mostly would have meant Slosh or Zwei Rodion got hit. They didn’t struggle with sanity too much, so the Blunt DMG up was kind of a benefit.
I'm still pretty new to the game, what do you mean when you say that an ID has negative/positive offense level/defense level? I'm aware these are appliable buffs/debuffs, but do IDs have certain increases/reductions to these levels by default?
Every skill has an offense lvl modifier. Offense lvl is sinner lvl + modifier.
Base Mersault has -3 to offense lvl on all skills so at lvl 12 his offense lvl is 12-3=9.
Every sinner has defense lvl modifier. Base Mersault has +3.
@@AmirhanAbishev oh I see. Is this listed somewhere ingame?
@@zephyrprime8 when you look at id it will have a shield with a number thats your defense lvl. Hover over it to see your modifier.
When you look at a skill you will have a sword icon. Hover over it to see your modifier.
This is on the same screen where you lvl up sinners.
@@AmirhanAbishev Oh okay, thanks for the explanation!
This video is great dude you're insane, subbed.
I await thoust appointment
Now do cycle 10 with them