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What Tesla should do, is give to everyone free FSD during beta testing, grab all the data, get it working perfectly, and then tell everyone, that if you want to continue to use it, you have to pay for it, just my opinion.
Until then, in my opinion, it is worthless until fully functional
This is what should happen. Typically stuff like this is free just like ChatGPT. Internet even in its infancy. And usually tech and services go free at first and when a company creates a “demand”, that’s when they’ll start charging for subscriptions. This is what FSD should be in 2024 as it very well still beta. And not to mention other companies are catching up with their driving assists.
they have free FSD for life on some used models on the site.
You don’t wanna risk life and limb and pay $12k to use beta software? Blasphemy!
I think that’s what Elon is doing. We’ll see IF they can deliver a robo taxi by 8/8 because of massive amount of neural net learning.
The Model Y’s will be even cheaper if you wait for the announcement of Juniper release.
I agree. The Juniper will be better and probably cheaper for buyers after the first wave of desperate buyers.
Yea but hopefully it will still qualify for $7500 tax credit
@@billysnextadventure4306 I believe a loss of the credit would require a change in battery chemistry, or a change in the president.
@@BobbieGWhiz No, the requirements get more strict every year. This is why the Model 3 suddenly stopped being applicable for the rebate in the US in 2024 despite not shipping the refreshed version yet. Next year the critical mineral requirements that must be from the US goes from 50% to 60%. The US-made battery component requirement goes from 50% to 70%. Not sure if even Tesla will qualify for the rebates anymore unless the get 4680 production ramped insanely quickly.
I was checking them out they wanted 900 monthly payments and 700 dollar insurance
it is not mind blowing, but it is better than before. $200 per month is too much
i have it and think $200 a month is fair
I think it's worth about three grand total on the high end and probably about two grand for most people.
Everyone is waiting on Juniper. That simple.
Yes I agree, and it will continue to hurt sales until it is released, no matter how many tricks and price cuts Tesla try on.
Can't compete with cheap Chinese EVs like the BYD Seagull that can be sold for $10,000 and still make a profit. That is another reason why Elon canceled to make a model 2 or a 25,000 electric car and decided to focus on robot taxis.
What is juniper?
Thanks for always keeping up to date Ryan!
Got my FSD trial and used it for about three highway miles before I had had enough. I am a driver and that’s not driving. I am sure some folks will love it. I will still take a pass, thank you.
Highway is still on v11. If you are going to test v12, you should do in town driving. Then you will see the difference.
Yep, it sucks. Feels like a 16 year old chauffer.
highway works well perfectly in traffic, great for those with 1 hr commutes, In fast speed lane change situations, its too conservative. Treat it as a tool that can save you a lot of pain, learn to switch in and out of it like driving manual. I think it's great and you also realize how intelligent your car is
Idea: Subscribe for the monthly FSD and if you decide to purchase in full, knock the money you have spent to-date off the $12K. Lowers your risk so to speak. Sort of a rent to own approach.
Been using FSD for a week! It works great! I really like it, and they’re very strict, you really need to keep your eyes on the road and hands on steering wheel, but it works great! I like it!
If you still need to keep your eyes on the road and hands on the steering wheel then why not just drive it yourself ?
How comfortable would you feel keeping your eyes closed for a drive? Overall it’s pretty cool to trial, but it’s not there yet. Sometimes I have to give it a nudge to drive faster (as it slows for no good reason) or to get it to make a right turn after stopping at a red light even though there’s no traffic preventing it from proceeding. It accelerates too fast from a stop and takes too long to slow down at a stop causing it to use the mechanical brakes on top of the regenerative braking. I’ve had two or three critical disengagements.
@@DGander007 … because it takes the minutia away from driving. You arrive much more relaxed and it is safer since both you and the car are paying attention. Try it and you’d know.
Osborne effect model Y buyer here. Patiently waiting 😅
Same
My early 2020 Model 3 just became a magnitude more advanced. Wow, it's like a leapfrog into the future!"
Tried the latest version 11 on an X for 3 days and a 3 for 4 days. All I can say is I have no need for it. You can not relax at all and it is more stressful than just driving the car yourself. Also it makes everyone nauseous with its quick stops/starts and strange turns. You would have to pay me to use it... Not sure who would pay $12, 8, 6, 3, 2k for a car that drives like a bumper car.
Enhanced autopilot however is worth it.. 👍🏻
Wait… version 11 isn’t the new version. That’s totally unrelated. From what I’ve heard and seen from a few reviewers is that version 12 is 10 times better than 11. I think that matters a lot if it’s in fact true. I’m waiting for it on my X. I use FSD a lot, but I agree you can’t relax with version 11. I’m hopeful V.12 is what I’m seeing from others.
11 is old version
@@fulltimefather-parttimehero haha yeah I heard the same stuff when 11 came out. Game-changer! blah blah blah... it will be nice to see but so far there have been years of such videos and they are all lies as far as actually being better than a human driver, so there is no way to relax. Why pay 6,8,9,12,15 k to have a more stressful drive? nonsense...
@@TheFutureisTheFuture Well I have it and haven't received 12 yet, but I can say that every iteration has been way better than the last and the honest reviewers have done full uninterrupted drives showing it and what it still needs and where it's better. It does appear 10 times better... we'll see. Eventually it will get there.
I think it's worth like 2K if you look at the reseller market for used cars people don't value it at all because it's just not there yet.
yeah waiting for juniper, current model Y rides like a brick and way worse than the new 3 highland. Juniper NOW. I would buy now.
There's no such thing as Juniper or Highland. Thats just a made up thing by the public and media. It should be considered to just call these updated versions with a more global terminology like 'refresh' or simply just 'update'. Tesla has never called new refreshes with such project names they never claimed. This is just misleading.
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@Christine_perkins13i’ve driven the 2023 model Y and the ride quality was really really nice. Although to be fair I’m coming from a hatchback made in 2008 which I’m sure tries to send all road shocks into my seat.
2023 MYP - great ride, even on the 21’s. Not sure what you’re used to driving. 84 Cadillac Eldorado 🤣 ?
Very helpful vid. I have a 2019 X performance and I was wondering why I didn't get the FSD update yet. Thanks
I’d never use beta software to drive me and my family. But I think free charging for a year or longer would be a great way to entice buyers. That’s something of real value.
use it in traffic first, then get used to switching in and out of it. Great for traffic.
@@mikeni1225 I'd think it's safer to try without any cars around. But maybe because you're driving slower in traffic, it's safer to try in that context?
Many of those Model Y’s in inventory are leftover 2023’s that have already depreciated.
All Tesla needs to do is offer new color choices on the Model Y. It would help pickup sales until the refresh arrives.
I have a 2022 Model Y and have the v12.3.3 FSD 30 day free trail courtesy from Tesla. I have tried it few days ago going to a local grocery store from home on local streets. It is definitely an improvement over previous versions and steps in the right direction. I still have to hang on to the steering wheel and “supervise” the entire trip which is anxiety inducing. One question came across my mind, what does “FSD” solve for our day-to-day driving in our daily life?
It may be mind blowing for former FSD users, but for newbies it’s fun to try, but not good enough by far to sell me.
Feels like babysitting a student driver
I tried it for the first time last week, it drives the speed limit in the right lane, completely unaware of situations I can see beyond it’s limited visibility range, where I would have changed lanes to prepare for, etc etc. FSD is not for people who actually like driving.
I would pay two grand for it not a cent more.... It's just not worth it because you have to pay so much attention to it literally student driver status like the other comment and said.
A performance for near $40k with the EV tax credit is nuts. A MYrwd for near $33k, also great. Great values.
Thank you for the info
When are we getting the adaptive headlight update for matrix? This I would use more than the FSD even though it’s super cool that a $32K RWD M3 has all of these features and abilities.
BYD includes hybrids in their numbers for EV sales.
They provide both. They are right there with Tesla for pure BEV and way ahead for combined. How much does that really matter, though? At the end of the day it's how profitable BYD/Tesla can be (ie. look at margins in addition to volume)
How do I know if my sept 2019 model x has what hardware version?
they raised the price $1000 if you're custom ordering only but inventory are still discounted. They are discounting earlier in the quarter than before because of sales slump in first quarter.
This! It’s been discounted heavily for months now through the inventory.
In my 2024 Model Y purchased in February this year I have of late received version 12 auto pilot. I am frustrated with V 12 because it lane changes left on the freeway but doesn't increase speed to the surrounding cars and the cars behind me. Nor can I set the speed anymore due to some "Max Speed" setting. What if I really do want to travel a bit slower or stay more in the right freeway lanes? Some other local driving "testing" has been somewhat more of a better experience. If TESLA actually listens to the verbal feedback I give, they did get an earful a couple of days ago
FSD Auto lane change in mind blowing. It signal, prints a message on why it is going to change lanes and then just does it, flawlessly. It even knows when to move out of left lane.
I got the update on my Model YLR and it is MUCH BETTER! I recently had surgery and had to drive to another state and wasn't looking forward to it. FSD made it VERY DOABLE! With that said, it's still not perfect. Three issues it still has:
1. It doesn't avoid potholes. I don't care how big the pothole is, it'll plow right through it. Therefore, you still have to remain very vigilant. Considering it has 3 cameras in the windshield, I don't know why they don't program this in.
2. Speed limit decreases. We all know that sometimes you're on a road with a speed limit of 40mph, but nobody drives that slow. So you put the limt at 52, which keeps you going with the flow of traffic and all is good. All of a sudden, you notice you're going very slow. You must have moved "to a new area" and the car once again adjusts to the new speed limit. What I'd prefer? If the speed limit was 40 and I set it at 52, that's 30% faster. If moving to a new area, that 30% adjustment should be kept. So if you move to a new area where the speed limit is 45, I'd expect it to reset to 58 1/2, or 59mph. Maybe it can give an audible alert so you can decide if you want to adjust that.
3. Construction areas. Simply put, it doesn't handle them well. If cones are put in the road to turn two lanes into one, it simply gets stumped and doesn't know what to do, forcing you to take over.
I'd say in my hour long drive, other than me having to adjust speed limits, the car did maybe 55 minutes of the driving. I'd LOVE to buy it, but not for $12K, that's just way too expensive. Drop the price down to $3,500 and I'd buy it. It's simply too expensive for the average person to justify at $12k.
We got a brand new model Y LR with no upgrades (grey, black interior, etc.) for 44,090, which was a steal given Maryland also has/had a $3000 credit on new EV sales too.
I have FSD since 2021 on my 2020 MYP. I wrote to Tesla service to get my 12.3.3 update and they uploaded it 5 minutes later. It is a game changer compared with 11.4.9. In addition, I also passed from 2023.44.30 to 2024.3.10. It seems the HW3 is merging very soon with HW4. Still waiting for Smart Summon and Autopark to replace my versions. Purchased the biodefense a few months ago and took care of my cigar smoke 😊. I am waiting for the 2025 Y cause the current suspension is crap crap crap.
looks like elon has finally cracked the code for FSD
Yeah, the difference from 11.4.9 is shocking. I assumed it was all hype and expected a modest improvement, but it really is night and day. I've had 12.3.3 for a week now and done probably 3hr or so of FSD across a good range of environments (highway/in town/country rd). It was total trash on roundabouts before and handles them great now. Also does 4-ways much better, though it's still a little slow unless you nudge it with the accelerator. It responds really well to that though; I can "encourage" it through stop signs or merge points etc. really nicely now. There's still room for improvement to be sure. It's not terribly thoughtful or strategic in traffic negotiation, for example. But the actual driving control part is really darn good all of a sudden. Everything is so much smoother.
Earlier tonight I took it out in the dark, and had it drive a 2-lane blacktop road with a 55mph speed limit. Mostly it would go a little slower than the limit, even if I set the max up to 65. Even on straights it would top out at about 57, and in turns it would slow down considerably more than a typical human would. Around the time I was finding that out, it occurred to me that I had embarked on that testing run without really much concern or second thought. No big deal, just figured I'd have it go drive a twisty blacktop in the dark. And afterward my only real complaint is that it went slower than I'd have liked. That's...really quite something.
It still needs supervision, all the time. And I find it works best with a little bit of interaction as well. I give it a helping hand here and there regularly; I'll use the blinker to move it into advantageous lanes, nudge the amps pedal to get it to turn onto a road, and things like that. And then I'll take over completely if there's like, a construction crew, or to merge between two busy highways. You can take over for the tricky spots and let it do all the grunt work. I wouldn't let it handle every single situation totally hands off, but it sure makes driving across town through traffic a lot more pleasant.
To my mind it's a really, really useful tool. It's odd to me to hear people talk like if it can't handle 100% of all situations with zero intervention that it's totally useless. Regular old cruise control never handled anything but keeping the speed the same, but it sure made driving down the interstate a lot nicer, didn't it?
The ‘24 YLR rides VERY NICE
I'm interested in the Model Y updated with softer suspension, new windows to reduce road noise, and the new fast-charging C.A.T.L. LFP battery. From what I've read, this could be late '24 or early '25. Your thoughts?
In Austraila ..bro you had me excited.
If I was to buy a new model 3 ludicrous would it be sold out msrp day one or do you have time Usually with the new Tesla releases to get your funds in order to get one?
I'm waiting it out 😊
The Free FSD Trial is also in Canada, I received mine (2023 Model Y long range AWD) and am awestruck , totally another level of machine intelligence! Well done Tesla look forward to further improvements.
I am ready for the model 3 performance!!! I need a new car
do we know how much it would even be???
@@pvic6959 we will once it’s announced. Everyone can speculate, but I do feel with Tesla’s less than desirable Q1 results they will want to price it under $55k to preserve the tax incentive to push more units.
@@rocketbrothers540 oh your estimate of under 55k is pretty good. i was thinking 65+k lol
ive ordered the RWD of the new model 3 and will get it in the next week or so!
@@pvic6959 I finally had a chance to see the redesigned model 3 in person at a TESLA location in LA. Without a doubt more refined and honestly it makes sense why model Y sales are suffering. At a show room where you can see and sit in them side by side. The interior difference, even before driving it makes the model Y seem pretty outdated.
Has summon been restored to Model Y's without Ultrasonic Sensors with the latest update? I bought my car last summer and still can't have it pull in and out of my garage via summon!
Ryan, anytime a car drives its self in your opinion is mind blowing.
Ryan Shaw, Your videos always make me happy, so I subscribed!
FSD V12 I noticed that I do not have to jiggle the wheel for short trips.
My MY SR RWD was $38K out the door (35K for the car + 3K for sales tax, registration, etc). I got a $7.5K tax incentive and an additional $2.2K price reduction. 👍
I have a 2023 model Y and love the self parking and think the FSD is very cool and very promising.
I got my FSD trial on March 31st. It’s pretty solid but I could never pay $12K for it. I would buy a used one that has it on it though.
Definitely waiting it out for refreshed model Y
The one without turn signal and drive mode stalks? Yeahno...
@@gordon4385 I live in an area with no roundabouts, so I'm good. And I think the automatic gear selector is pretty cool
My opinion is that, until FSD is available without supervision, it is just a cool novelty.
If you list prices from different countries, you should denote the currency, ie.. AUD Australian dollars, USD US Dollars. There are some great deals to be had right now. I just bought a model YLR on 3/19/24. The standard model Y version that doesn't qualify for the $7500 tax credit had to be lowered significantly, otherwise the long range variant with the tax credit would be cheaper and a massively better deal. I am loving my Model YLR and FSD 12.3.3. I think China will get the very latest full "Juniper" refresh first and maybe we will get it 1.5 to 2 years later.
Picked up the model Y Friday with an original price of $52,999 with $5200 off and the $7500 tax rebate. That's my second one since I have a Y that's also under a 3 year lease I'm giving back in September. I'm going to replace that with another one as well. My older Y is $810 on a monthly lease and the new one is $575...I'll have two Y's for $1150 instead of one for $810 lol
In Australia, It seems we didn't get the upgraded interior and light bar for the MY. But the wheels and paint colour upgrades are definitely needed and look great.
Are you sure? Orders aren’t being fulfilled until as long as June. You never know we may get HW4 as well as RGB lights etc
@@cliffordi look I hope you're right, but as of now it doesn't seem to include the refreshed interior. I really hope it will change and they add the HW4 😍
@@AdamKrenske Yes I agree. I won't consider buying until the interior is upgraded, even then the price would have to be cut even further for me not to wait for the MY Juniper to be released.
Australia updates didn't include the quicker acceleration or light bar etc. Just wheels and other minor changes
Has anyone seen FSD v12.3 running on a late-2020 (that's pre-refresh) Model S? I'm still stuck on v11.4.9, but v12.3 seems to be getting demo'd on everything except my car. Thanks.
My 2024 Model Y is running the 2024.8 software rather than the 2024.3 software fork. It seems that the older Model Ys running 2024.3 are getting the FSD trial offer, but not the newer ones. Strange. No word whether the trial will ever be offered.
Please create instructions on how to use FSD
I hope we're getting closer to the Roadster release. As long as the price stays under 400k, I'll get the space X package. Your channel is awesome and I'm constantly stalking it for solid and reliable updates.
@Christine_perkins13 I have not specifically invested in Tesla. I do have shares in other tech companies and have considered investing in Tesla. It looks like a pretty big win due to the battery tech, AI and FSD tech, apart from the brand itself.
@Christine_perkins13 I will absolutely be looking into that. Thank you. Cheers!
I took delivery of my model y on March 26th and they didn't do any FSD demo. That's fine though as I will never, ever pay 12k for FSD.
Canada has the trial Supervised as well. It is mind blowing!
Still needs work . Had issues with roundabouts and merging lanes.
Yes … but Supervised IS mind blowing compared to the last 3 years of MINI advances every few months.
As a pending Tesla owner, I’m curious do you pay the 12,000 upfront or do you get it financed how does after vehicle purchases work with Tesla?
Received the free trial fsd about a week ago in Houston TX... Does fsd require a training period or something? Because mine drives super awkwardly and I had to go back to basic auto pilot when commuting to work.
That just means the data collected in the Houston area sucks because you guys have bad drivers 😂
In all seriousness just keep using it it's pretty badass
@@U2B_Viewer EV sales are not too strong in TX, I know ...😅It's just that, on highway, my model Y takes far left lane and stays there blocking passing lane. Causes a bit of a jam behind me in the morning
@isoplus3513 it's a rare occasion but I've seen an indication on the visualizer saying that it was changing out of the passing Lane. We definitely need to see this more frequently
I haven't had to take over, but there has been some indecision. It's done some some amazing reasoning in difficult traffic situations.
Australia and China manufactured MY are also getting HW 4 .... When will it be general to Europe ? to the US?
3 months of FSD referral sucks atm. i don't want to use it so i need to seee a 1k discount if referred or something else and those model 3 to Y changes hit in the next 3 months else i'm holding.
any news about juniper? I'm so worried, in 6 months I need to buy a new car but I don't wanna buy the "last" old model Y
Ive. been warm to the Model Y Performance, but the Model 3 Ludicrous is really looking good! Awesome car.
No change here in S.FL inventory prices, plenty in stock, so they better start dropping $$ and passing on more free charging
Unfortunately, I updated to 2024.8 and have not received the FSD free trial as of today. It might be a while if ever. I'm a little bummed out as I was looking forward to giving it a try.
same
Seems like you're just unlucky one that's on the back of the list. Unfortunately the updates only roll out in small batches and the servers are not able to update everyone at the same time
@@U2B_Viewer I wonder if I’ll still get the full 30 days or just whatever days are left in April
@@whenspringbegins 30 days from the installation
Australia doesn't seem to have the updated interior unfortunately. Can you clarify if this is coming?
I agree, currently the old interior still being sold in conjunction with the updated wheels etc.
So you don’t have to get FSD on first purchase? Is the computer the same
Yes, all the hardware is included so you can just buy it as a download.
The new MY is what I am waiting for now, fortuneatly I can wait a little longer but ready to purchas as soon as it comes out
The new Model 3 is amazing, the Model Y Juniper is going to be crazy improved and sell like hotcakes. The eventual Model 2 release will benefit from the 3 & Y improvements and the ongoing improvement of FSD. Big things ahead for Tesla in the near future.
Model Y sells are being ‘Osborne’ by the expectation of the future Juniper update. Many people are holding off buying awaiting that update. I think TESLA made a big mistake releasing the Highland in advance of the juniper. They should’ve been released together.
To a small percent. The vast majority does not know but some of us, including me are planning on buying a Juniper.
Is there a way to track how many customers are actually paying for fsd monthly or in full ? It is horrible older car not eligible for fsd 12 and cyber truck not eligible either 😂 ...
Do you think they’re also doing this to gather a massive amount of training data in a short period of time?
Absolutely.
@@LearnEnglishWithMatta I was thinking that could be their primary motivation.
When are they going to jailbreak the Tesla?
Any "FSD" will never be true "FSD" in my book until it can cope with: a) a Mumbai rush hour, and b) The Arc De Triomphe in Paris at rush hour. Then, and only then, will I consider the technology mature enough to even think about paying for.
I feel FSD is all but useless. Biggest gripe is that here in N.Carolina speed limits are ignored, using FSD means you are holding back traffic and pissing off everyone. Next there’s the steering wheel sensitivity. Finding the sweet spot requires too much effort. If FSD was a $500 option I still would pass with no regret.
Waiting for the model y juniper
I agree the delay to the Model Y Juniper release has likely depressed sales quite a bit. Potential Tesla customers are probably more clued up on the products than most other mass market car customers are. So the big Model 3 upgrade vs the 'old' Y even if it has had a few tweaks is a bad move, especially as it'll be 12 months before Juniper's released..
just tried the FSD. it has some issues I experienced:
1: It accelerates too fast from a complete stop with no traffic or no cars parked on the side of the streets. in a neighborhood with 20mph speed limit, it always goes past speed limit when it goes from 0-20 then it slows back down to 20mph. i feel like i'm on a 1/4 mile track when I leave a stop sign under the conditions I mentioned.
2: it decelerates too late if I approach a stopped vehicle in front of me. I'm almost certain, it actually applies the actual breaks when it comes up to a stopped vehicle rather than relying solely on regen breaking.
3: it doesn't like stop signs at train tracks. it sometimes just sits at those stop signs until i put my foot on the 'gas'.
4: it doesn't like to turn into certain divided roads. it doesn't really have a problem with the one in my neighborhood but always struggles and fails the one right before I get to work. The one before my work has support pillars of an elevated road way that act as a median ground/ lane divider.
I do like how smooth it behaves when on the interstate. it changes lane very smoothly although signal blinks two too many times before executing the lane change. it also accelerates very smoothly after lane change to make a pass. and when there is a semi truck in adjacent lane, my vehicle moves away from semi or large trucks slightly while staying in its own lane. And that action is more noticeable when I am passing the truck and not the other way around.
The bottom line: While it takes away a lot of subtle but constant adjustments during long range interstate driving and it is very much appreciated, I still would not pay $12k for it.
FSD is awesome overall but yes it needs some improvements. It doesn’t avoid potholes and ignores No Turn On Red signs. Overall, I actually feel safer in FSD than I did with Autopilot.
your "all future" link does not work
I own a Model 3 Performance, which I'm very happy with. But if I were to purchase another one, I'd probably just stick with the Long Range. Yeah, the car is fast and sleek looking, but I'd prefer the better efficiency next time around. Just my 2 cents for what it's worth.
Is insurance gonna likely be really high for Ludacris M3?
I have been leasing FSD for a bit, a this new version is excellent for what it is, but the navigation is a real problem! The vehicle does a good job if the navigation is good, but almost always when you get where you are going there is something wrong about the location coordinates! Also while I use it when traveling long distances and sometimes on highways I still get very frustrated by behavior in traffic! It really COST TOO MUCH!!!! Especially if Elon wants to make the world better and safer!!!
FSD doesn’t work well for me. It keeps making mistakes. It doesn’t read the road signs to slow down. Supervised FSD should means steering and braking should still allow FSD to work, but it just disengages. Thus, I give up after 2 disengagements.
I think they would sell more if when you bought a new Tesla it would go with you all the time.
That would mean if you bought FSD when you were 20 years old you would have it for the next 60 years or more, assuming you always bought Tesla, which would mean no FSD revenue for Tesla and no reason to improve it and no reason to have developed it in the first place. 😊
Good idea - Tesla should separately offer a lifetime subscription and a lifetime purchase both of which are transferable to any newly purchased or leased Tesla without charge. These product offerings would be in addition to the FSD that stays with the car, like today's FSD.
Additionally, Tesla should offer FSD on a daily, weekly, 6-month and 12-month basis, as well as the present monthly basis.
@@paulmcgreevy3011 I hear your point, but I think Tesla would also be very happy if they had a customer for Life as well.
All things and previous critics considered not full self driving supervised but “supervised self driving”would be the perfect naming scheme
Wanting to buy a Model Y. Currently cheap finance deal at 1.8% but what are the chances Tesla will drop the actual price of the Y in the UK???
Yes reserved car but not completed sale yet. Yes have test driven many times.
I agree with you on FSD, until I am not needed to intervene, it is a beta which I will not pay for.
Tesla has to in the future upgrade both the 3/Y at the same time. I want a Y but I'm not about to buy a model that's about to get upgraded
We paid 8 for it and while its super impressive and cool to see how it evolves i think that was too much
FSD has improved a lot however my Model Y attempted to pass a stopped school bus while children were loading. It's impressive but still needs work.
Yup, my FSD 12.3.3 still runs the red meter lights at the entrance of freeways 😮
Yeah I had it turned into the wrong lanes when making a left hand turn out of stoplight.... I had it end up in a turning lane when I was trying to go straight... Then I had it slow down to 40 mph and stay there even though the car was indicating that It read a sign that said 70 miles per hour but no matter what I would do it would not go faster than 55. Then I drove through the same area again like 2 days out later and there's like a 20 mi stretch of highway where the car refuses to go faster than 55 mph even though the speed limit there is 65 or 70 depending on where you're at. It was super frustrating I pulled over and switched off FSD.... Drove through the same area with enhanced autopilot It was a little bit better but it was still behaving pretty weird. I drive through there typically once a week and never had an issue before this update so I'm guessing something changed.
I got my update, as a non-FSD subscriber/owner. I have not tried it yet, but I do notice an improvement of the vehicle visualization. I continue, however, struggle to see the killer use case (especially for the ridiculous cost). Are there really customers that prefer stalkless steering wheels? To me this is a solution in search of a problem, but maybe there is a portion of the driving population that hates stalks?
I dislike stalks
@dalejewell9916 Ah, you're the guy. Seriously though, I'd love to see Tesla market research to see drivers were frustrated by stalks.
Waiting too
Don’t have a Tesla yet, but when I do it’ll be a used one with FSD already added. Massive savings over new and FSD costs 2k more than non FSD. I’d never pay 12k
Yo uwouldnt get a second hand 2 year old Modely Y in the UK for the price of a new model Y (US) with the reduction and credit. There are also no grants at all in the UK for EV cars.
We were offered the free month of full self driving but we had to unblock the interior camera which we covered up since the day we bought the car. No thank you, auto pilot is fine.
None of theses discounts are available in Canada unfortunately.
Regarding the pinch of salt:
How about the Lithium refinery in Texas?
I think it's hard to justify such a high price when registration, taxes, etc... Are high. Not to mention interest rates and then you add on insurance rates that are already going up and are higher for electric cars.
The FSD beta has me thinking about subscribing to it. It's highly impressive.
Model 3 ludicrous looks sick in Ultra red. When are there going to build a Roadster design model 3, don't need the crazy $200k spec version, model 3 LR specs would be fine, maybe slightly faster top speed.
High driving position short wheel base eg Land Rover
As from Elon legal case in California he said he will move all Tesla legal business to Texas as apparently better laws on businesses like Tesla. Might be the reg of the first cars there is just to follow up on his treats to move away for California.