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Why "aliens" betta is not a Wild type Betta! and why i don't recommend them.

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ส.ค. 2024

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  • @voluntaryismistheanswer
    @voluntaryismistheanswer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I spent hundreds and they were so *weak*, never made it long, I have old plakats I bred myself that are still hearty years down the road. I really think there's a vigor in the ones that haven't traveled.

    • @BlackwaterAquatics
      @BlackwaterAquatics  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yup, I agree, they never last long for me either. Forget about breeding too as I get too many still birth if you breed them you need to outbreed them to wild and then breed them back. Not practical IMO

  • @An-kw3ec
    @An-kw3ec 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    2:50 ok but that iridescence is otherworldly wow!
    Im tempted to get one of those again.
    It's been 6 years since i only keep plakat bettas, my current one has a matte brown color with no iridescence. I thought he looked so primal, especially with the black water tank.

  • @Dan-rb6fb
    @Dan-rb6fb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. Really like your graphics.

  • @firdausjummat3645
    @firdausjummat3645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. Awesome pics and videos of the foshes. Almost owned one alien and in the end I got a Siamoorientalis instead. I'll look at these Aliens differently now. Nevertheless they look great to me

  • @tzeeluaimeng5760
    @tzeeluaimeng5760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the great info and wonderful video. I wanted to buy an alien and now I have second thoughts. I’ll buy an Imbellis instead! Thanks again!

  • @akvaristugur9479
    @akvaristugur9479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice sharing, i came to support super 👌🖐️👍

  • @calebwatson3023
    @calebwatson3023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I notice my copper alien gets fin rot once in a while. He heals quickly. His home is very clean. Be careful when you get one of these fish. They will have problems.

    • @BlackwaterAquatics
      @BlackwaterAquatics  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree they always get fin rot around 9 month of age.

    • @rifaatisk1061
      @rifaatisk1061 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@BlackwaterAquaticswhat do you think about crossing aliens with samaragdinas?? Will it produce a better strain of aliens health wise?? Or maybe even give them a more unique look??

  • @echo8915
    @echo8915 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Firstly man good video but at some point it’s not correct
    1) the mahachaiensis is already green it is all a part complexe that you can find at Mahachai and only at this place
    2) wild betta split in a lot of form slpendens, imbelis, guitar (only few part of Isan), and mahachaiensis (only at Mahachai) these are true wild betta
    3) how to recognize a wild with a alien
    The scale of alien are close together and don’t have black separate between it

  • @cut419ram
    @cut419ram 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've had my male alien betta for almost 7 months now. Fiesty guy too. Likes to jump, and has jumped out of the water and onto the floor several times.

    • @hansjoachimmarseille3785
      @hansjoachimmarseille3785 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Keep the water level 8 cm below the rim of the tank if you want to keep them in the tank!

  • @blackshama9
    @blackshama9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alien is strain of betta
    Not spesies original from betta / wild betta

  • @rjv2395
    @rjv2395 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    good vid, but really disagree with your conclusion. I believe the goal as a breeder is NOT to get a spawn of this or that pair of fish. your goal should be to pull the traits you want while strengthening the genetics. maybe you are right and the alien hybrids are weaker so then the work is to back cross to wild stock and select the young that keep the show qualities you like while improving the immune genetics and overall health. same for the fin rays. breed to get the ray strength and the show quality you want WHILE improving the vitality of the fish. simply telling people not to keep these fish, especially when they are so beautiful, just opens the door for alot of inferior breeders to propagate fish to the market that make the gene pool weaker and weaker. if you love wild types and want to stay pure, that is fine. but this is not what a many breeders will do or believe. maybe your vid should have some focus on the genetics to breed for to improve the stains and strengthen the overall vitality.

    • @BlackwaterAquatics
      @BlackwaterAquatics  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I actually like the look of aliens, i just dont reccomend them to begginer since they do not have the same health quality as domestic/wilds. The point is not to sway people away from keeping them but to make people aware that they are not a wild type betta and they are not good begginer fish. Good aliens stocks are far and in between, i would personally look for short fins and thick long body since these phenotype correlate the highest with Longevity. Breeding back to siamorientalis is a good idea to start.

    • @rjv2395
      @rjv2395 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlackwaterAquatics agree, generally tank raised splendens plakats are hardier, but that maybe because they are tank raised and have some immunity to tank diseases that wild crosses do not. there are things you can do to improve vitality (probiotics, fulvic acid, almond leaves, vitamins and mineral supplements, food preparations, etc.).

  • @masonditmars6479
    @masonditmars6479 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative! Any idea when you will next get a shipment?

    • @BlackwaterAquatics
      @BlackwaterAquatics  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have some aliens and splendens right now, but if you want the other wilds we will get them sometimes the end of this month. We been delay because of home renivation

  • @elsancho-mx7om
    @elsancho-mx7om ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ive seen them called wild hybrids because they use domestic and wild to create the hybrid, not because the fish itself is wild.

    • @BlackwaterAquatics
      @BlackwaterAquatics  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The issue is people refering them as "wild type" bettas were they are no more wild than domestics.

    • @bluebird4614
      @bluebird4614 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@BlackwaterAquaticsif anything health wise they are worse than domesticated splendens

    • @BlackwaterAquatics
      @BlackwaterAquatics  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bluebird4614 yes they are prone to fin rot and muscle wasting diseases

  • @sergiomalespin3326
    @sergiomalespin3326 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the video! Much appreciated! Can Alien type bettas be kept with other nano fish in a heavily planted 40 gallon tank?

  • @brandonlasvegas
    @brandonlasvegas ปีที่แล้ว

    😎🐟

  • @mytimes70
    @mytimes70 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s Camera you use in this video?

  • @bunbun6369
    @bunbun6369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey i am really curious about few Things.
    1. Where are you from? That you got wild Betta/Plakat
    2. Do you know how to select a good/aggressive Betta/Plakat from a normal or weaker one? ( I am watching those Thailand Videos and i would Like to understand how people can See Something in certain Fisches that they Pick/buy them etc.
    3. Can you really train them? Or is IT Just a myth besides letting them watching there own Mirror or Having Fish looking at eachother every day for few mins.
    (Sorry for all those question Hope you got time to share and answer)
    Greetings ✌️😁

    • @YourCommonSinner
      @YourCommonSinner ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You didn’t look up betta training videos since you are already on TH-cam?

    • @ravinkrishnan3183
      @ravinkrishnan3183 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can teach your betta to do tricks really easily.
      The easiest is teaching it to jump to catch food like a SeaWorld exhibit

  • @clipsRme
    @clipsRme 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your website sell alien betta pair, what is a good tank size?

    • @BlackwaterAquatics
      @BlackwaterAquatics  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I occasionally do, but right now i have none in stock. A good tank size for a single male is around 2.5 gallon and larger.

  • @47theezt
    @47theezt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What cross are they from into form to become aliens?

    • @BlackwaterAquatics
      @BlackwaterAquatics  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i believe they are a combination of solid color domestic, siamorientalis, mahachai and smaragdina.

    • @jlnaleus225
      @jlnaleus225 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Basically any wild bettas crossed with splendens will have alien babies. But the one you typically see in the internet are a loooooong process of selective breeding, inbreeding & linebreeds, and outcrossing. Ive'd tried making my own aliens in long fins and its a hard. Currently at F4

  • @fishomobile6214
    @fishomobile6214 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    สวยพี่สวย

  • @rustyshackleford5509
    @rustyshackleford5509 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the beginning of this video are those 2 male Bettas in the same tank? I would think they are too aggressive to be kept together?

    • @BlackwaterAquatics
      @BlackwaterAquatics  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Only for show, they're remove after a while. I do this to see their full finage

  • @darthslater6077
    @darthslater6077 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    IT IS NOT "BAY-TA" IT IS BET-TA....THERE IS NO Y....IT IS NOT PRONOUNCED BETA....OR BAY-TA...ITS BET-TA

    • @AWY-LO
      @AWY-LO 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      why the need to caps like you are angry at him for torturing the fish by calling it "Beta"?

  • @alexhutton155
    @alexhutton155 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    All my aliens are just as healthy as my imbellis or plakats 🤷🏻‍♂️ i’m sure there are people put there selling decent lineages and those selling with defects just because its a pretty fush

    • @BlackwaterAquatics
      @BlackwaterAquatics  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @alexhutton155 my aliens are also very healthy. But around the 1 year mark is when you see the difference. Doesn't happen all the time and obviously as a seller I will never sell those compromise fish :)