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In all honesty, for a $30k, $40k, or even $50k bike I expect this to work flawlessly. There is no excuse. Do better Harley! Your competition is eating your lunch.
Cannot disagree, I expected software bugs with this new screen but unfortunately all of the other bugs and assembly issues are not acceptable or what we should see from HDMC. To me the bike was rushed and not properly vetted. I know many of us would be more than happy to help Harley here!
I have a solution. Google and H-D can give us Android Auto or they can give us the embedded Nav for free! I'm not a fan of the Apple product but I may switch since Google is being petty.
New sub....just ordered the Onince from one of your other videos, the smaller one. Doing some research today, Law Abiding Biker says the Harley version of maps, the subscription based, uses your phone and it has to be a 5g phone to work. My 4g would be worthless.
Welcome to the channel! The embedded navigation covers 3 years of weather, traffic and map updates using an internet connection provided by your phone and yes it has to be a 5g capable phone. Otherwise the nav will work for the life of the bike.
Question for you. I got an AI box and while I was able to get it to work, the play/pause button would not work. I had to arrow over to the play/pause button and hit enter to pause the music or tap the touchscreen which is awkward. Does the play/pause button work with this Onince AI box?
I have found the play button will start a song but it will not pause a song. I can advance songs or go back and play if paused but I also have to use the left control or touch the screen to pause. I suspect this is likely true for all of the AI boxes.
When I first got my 2024 I had the android auto icon until I updated the firmware where it disappeared. I could never get my AA to connect even when I had the icon.
Another great video tom. The buggy boxes still annoy me but I'm hanging in there hoping one day AA will be on the bike. Keep em coming. Can't wait for the next one.
That Onince box works well. I just did 100 miles on my CVO Roadglide ST with the box in 100 degree heat. Worked like a champ. Map, spotify, text and calling all worked and the screen layout is good! Thanks for looking out and the recommendation.
Using the Bluetooth connection to an Android phone will give you most of the functionality minus Nav unless you have Harley's activated. Just need to get the radio bug fixed. For me during a normal commuting week I just use bluetooth for my phone.
I bought this Onice box and found if you connect to it bluetooth it acts as a headset and then connect your phone to it bluetooth to get Android Auto on the screen.
Yes! This feature was on the Camecho boxes but it stopped working after the latest SkyLine OS update. The BT headset would not stay connected after Harley's last update.
Great video, I'm holding out for an update to the OS system, I'm blessed to be a Goldwing rider and 24 RG rider, when I purchased my 2018 Goldwing new from Honda, we did not have Android, just Apple carplay, within about six months or so, Honda released an update for Android, so I truly believe it's coming, I have to believe it involves $$$$, hopefully someone will release the funds and we Android users can use our phones through the OS system, my opinion, for what it's worth.......
The new soundstream v2 head unit made for harley-davidson street glide n road glide just came out maybe a week or 2 ago has wireless android auto and Apple carplay, and it works great.That head unit is specifically made for motorcycles.
@ITFZone I just didn't understand why Google is saying there not continuing android auto for motorcycles, but allowed precision power to use android auto on their new soundstream v2 head unit specifically made for motorcycles.
@@RGONZ1 I think it has to do with the OS version. I believe they are using an older base OS which has AA grandfathered in. This is my guess. HOPEFULLY we will see an official answer from any of the companies at some point.
Great videos. I appreciate the "enthusiast" disclaimers you put in these. I purchased the AI Magic Box from your link. As you pointed out, it's not perfect, some steering wheel controls / buttons do not work like "play" / "pause" however the Android 10 box is a good solution. Thanks for your research on this! I am using this on a 2024 Street Glide. I installed a small USB charging port in my right hand saddle bag, powered from the trickle charging port. This gives me fuse protection and a quick disconnect when pulling the bag off. My Bluetooth "headset" is powered and stored here as well as having a second port for charging my phone. This leaves the magic box in the front storage tray by itself, leaving the tray clutter free. I also carry a small tire plug kit and 12 vdc tire inflater that can be powered from the trickle charging plug as well.
I believe apple and harley have a contact where apple provides the software for free or whatever as long as android isn't offered. It's all about money. Why else would Harleys nav suck. It's to get more people switch over to Apple
That BT bug has been driving me crazy. Every single time my phone gets pinged with anything, my IFCU jumps over to BT audio and I have to manually switch it over every time... So glad to hear they are working on a fix. Thanks for all the great info, I'll be doing that vent modification soon.👍
Yes a crazy bug for sure, the call for Bluetooth should be an easy fix to implement but it will be another OS update. Hope we see other improvements for sure!
You are not alone, I am seeing comments and emails from others who opted to switch but then I see the same of them switching back to Android because they couldn't live with the iPhone. I think an AI box with a SIM, if you have an Android phone with a physical SIM that you could move over to the AI box for trips might be a good alternative for many. But the boxes have their own issues!
I don't apple! Harley Nav Isn't very detailed, loads slow, sometimes just doesn't display (yes have latest update) Android boxes (commeco) doesn't always load, takes a long time. Some features work with buttons, some thing have to use touchscreen. (Not a reliable option) All options suck! I mounted my phone to the bars and use google maps for decent directions. Paid good money and disappointing options! I want Android Auto! In the meantime Harley your Nav could use some upgrades!
Android is no longer giving New certs for new gear. It’s across the entire motorcycle industry, even aftermarket. There’s a workaround to get Android Auto that actually works.
HD does offer the BoomBox GTS as an upgrade kit, you should double check but it should work on most 14-18 touring models with the purchase of a seperate USB connector. I do not know if it comes with CP/AA or if they can even be installed, you should see if your dealer could verify this for you.
If you look at the March flash, and dig into the file structure, you will find that the IFCU looks to be running an Android OS. So, I find the lack of Android auto kind of funny.
Unfortunately not, since the bike only supports CarPlay you need an AI box that supports OEM CarPlay. However with this new display you also need one based on Android OS V10 or the gauges will overlap the AI display.
bought a Street glide CVO2024, i was an android user. So i bought a iphone 15 pro. BIG mistake, expensive shitty phone ( can anyone tell me why that piece of crap cost so much ? ) and it don't work well with the infothainment system. Harley, Apple and Google, get your shit together, there is nothing wrong with our money that we pay for your stuff
Nice bike, apple is trash. I have a 24 road glide and am waiting for a product or update for AA because I'll never downgrade to apple from my Samsung fold
@ITFZone seriously... someone told me they used an ottocast to get AA on their bike but it was a 2021 with the boom box OS. I gotta see if it's compatible with the 24. I hear it works great and is very fast to load
I had no luck with the Ottocast. Has to be Android V10 to work. The Onince I showed in this video is pretty good, faster than the original Camecho but time is limited with it thus far.
Your S24 should be fine with this system as it is the software and not the hardware. These devices do work with the latest Android OS. Its the Harley's SkyLine OS that is not compatible with many of these devices. You have a 30 day return option with Amazon and don't hesitate to reach out with questions.
I have the onince box and have it working. I am using a cardo headset with it. I have problems routing the notifications from google maps to the headset. Hey google and phone calls work but not navigation prompts. Any suggestion's? or is this just a limitation of the box? I have the audio routing set up on the bike appropriately. Thanks.
To verify, which device is your Cardo paired to, just the bike or also the AI box or phone? I will do some testing with it. Feel free to email me ITFZoneEmail@gmail.com
To clarify... I am trying to have the music play on speakers and google navigation prompts go to the head set. I have audio routing on the bike set this way.
@@ITFZone Hmmm interesting idea, You could use an old iphone as your Media/App Device, that is connected to your Android Phone mobile hotspot, however text messages, calls and such will not work.
@@jeremywilcox3472 Correct the idea would be to move your Android SIM card over to an older iPhone which would give you cellular service. Then just move it back to your Android phone when not on the bike.
my boom gts which I have my phone connected for text messages. if I'm listening to music and I get a phone call my music stops and it says on the screen accept or cancel, I cancel as I don't have a microphone , its the same if I have a text, if I click listen when moving then music will stop and the text will be spoken. Does the new skyline OS have the capability to send an auto text message ? If Im riding and someone texts me, I can listen to it or read it if stopped, also my bike sends a automated text saying 'Sorry Im out riding, I will respond later' , this message is completely customisable, didn't know if the new system had it
The challenge with the Android bug is that it does not switch back so you are left at a Bluetooth screen. The SkyLine OS does offer auto responses to text messages.
I think they are innovative especially around compliance requirements but were they ready for such a technology leap. But those of us who have been faithful for so long probably never thought having CarPlay on a Harley would ever have any importance!
Vous devrez enregistrer votre itinéraire dans un fichier GPX, puis le stocker sur une clé USB. Vous pouvez ensuite importer ce fichier GPX dans la navigation Harley via l'option d'importation. J'ai trouvé ces étapes en recherchant : Pour utiliser les données GPX de l'application Google Maps Android, vous pouvez suivre ces étapes : -Ouvrez l'application Google Maps sur votre appareil Android. -Recherchez l'emplacement que vous souhaitez enregistrer en tant que fichier GPX. -Appuyez longuement sur la carte à l'endroit que vous souhaitez enregistrer. Une épingle rouge apparaîtra. -Appuyez sur l'épingle rouge pour afficher les détails de l'emplacement. -Faites défiler vers le bas de l'écran et appuyez sur le bouton "Partager". -Choisissez l'option "Exporter vers .GPX" parmi les options de partage. -Enregistrez le fichier GPX sur votre appareil.
@@RaymondDuhamel Pour utiliser un itinéraire planifié par Google sur la navigation de votre Harley, vous devez exporter la carte vers un fichier .gpx, puis l'importer dans la navigation de Harley. Ai-je raison de dire que vous avez un itinéraire planifié dans Google Maps que vous souhaitez utiliser avec la navigation de la moto ? Il pourrait être plus facile de travailler par courrier électronique, ITFZoneEmail@gmail.com
Multiple issues like this, the clutch and all the buttons being in strange places led me to trade off my 2024 RG. Don't see myself buying another Harley at this point.
@@ITFZone I still have my 2019 RG Ultra. 43,000 miles on it, I'm very comfortable with it. The nav works the way I want, I like the smoothness of the hydraulic clutch and I know where all the buttons are. If only it was as fast as that 117 but it's close!
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In all honesty, for a $30k, $40k, or even $50k bike I expect this to work flawlessly. There is no excuse. Do better Harley! Your competition is eating your lunch.
Cannot disagree, I expected software bugs with this new screen but unfortunately all of the other bugs and assembly issues are not acceptable or what we should see from HDMC. To me the bike was rushed and not properly vetted. I know many of us would be more than happy to help Harley here!
I have a solution. Google and H-D can give us Android Auto or they can give us the embedded Nav for free! I'm not a fan of the Apple product but I may switch since Google is being petty.
I have the Nav included with my CVO, its not a great alternative in its current form!
It's trash
New sub....just ordered the Onince from one of your other videos, the smaller one. Doing some research today, Law Abiding Biker says the Harley version of maps, the subscription based, uses your phone and it has to be a 5g phone to work. My 4g would be worthless.
Welcome to the channel! The embedded navigation covers 3 years of weather, traffic and map updates using an internet connection provided by your phone and yes it has to be a 5g capable phone. Otherwise the nav will work for the life of the bike.
Question for you. I got an AI box and while I was able to get it to work, the play/pause button would not work. I had to arrow over to the play/pause button and hit enter to pause the music or tap the touchscreen which is awkward. Does the play/pause button work with this Onince AI box?
I have found the play button will start a song but it will not pause a song. I can advance songs or go back and play if paused but I also have to use the left control or touch the screen to pause. I suspect this is likely true for all of the AI boxes.
When I first got my 2024 I had the android auto icon until I updated the firmware where it disappeared. I could never get my AA to connect even when I had the icon.
It is hiding in the system, just need a hack to bring it back OR Harley to make it so!
Another great video tom. The buggy boxes still annoy me but I'm hanging in there hoping one day AA will be on the bike. Keep em coming. Can't wait for the next one.
You know I will be watching for the update!
That Onince box works well. I just did 100 miles on my CVO Roadglide ST with the box in 100 degree heat. Worked like a champ. Map, spotify, text and calling all worked and the screen layout is good! Thanks for looking out and the recommendation.
Appreciate the feedback, it is more responsive than the original Camecho. I can also get to and from the side menu with the hand controls.
Your videos continue to be the best … thanks for taking the time to do these.
You are most welcome! Appreciate your support!
It would be so nice to have android auto on my bike. Not sure I'm willing to fight for it. I really appreciate your videos! Keep up the great work.
Using the Bluetooth connection to an Android phone will give you most of the functionality minus Nav unless you have Harley's activated. Just need to get the radio bug fixed. For me during a normal commuting week I just use bluetooth for my phone.
I bought this Onice box and found if you connect to it bluetooth it acts as a headset and then connect your phone to it bluetooth to get Android Auto on the screen.
Yes! This feature was on the Camecho boxes but it stopped working after the latest SkyLine OS update. The BT headset would not stay connected after Harley's last update.
@@ITFZone this one seems to stay connected fine with the update. Not a cheap date but still less than navagation plus android auto!
Great video, I'm holding out for an update to the OS system, I'm blessed to be a Goldwing rider and 24 RG rider, when I purchased my 2018 Goldwing new from Honda, we did not have Android, just Apple carplay, within about six months or so, Honda released an update for Android, so I truly believe it's coming, I have to believe it involves $$$$, hopefully someone will release the funds and we Android users can use our phones through the OS system, my opinion, for what it's worth.......
Fingers are crossed!
I still have that problem with the radio and my android phone
Yep no fix has been offered thus far. I check for updates every day.
The new soundstream v2 head unit made for harley-davidson street glide n road glide just came out maybe a week or 2 ago has wireless android auto and Apple carplay, and it works great.That head unit is specifically made for motorcycles.
Yep but does not fit these new bikes. Since the new system is so integrated I am not sure how quickly we will see an option but I suspect we will.
@ITFZone I just didn't understand why Google is saying there not continuing android auto for motorcycles, but allowed precision power to use android auto on their new soundstream v2 head unit specifically made for motorcycles.
@@RGONZ1 I think it has to do with the OS version. I believe they are using an older base OS which has AA grandfathered in. This is my guess. HOPEFULLY we will see an official answer from any of the companies at some point.
Great videos. I appreciate the "enthusiast" disclaimers you put in these. I purchased the AI Magic Box from your link. As you pointed out, it's not perfect, some steering wheel controls / buttons do not work like "play" / "pause" however the Android 10 box is a good solution. Thanks for your research on this! I am using this on a 2024 Street Glide. I installed a small USB charging port in my right hand saddle bag, powered from the trickle charging port. This gives me fuse protection and a quick disconnect when pulling the bag off. My Bluetooth "headset" is powered and stored here as well as having a second port for charging my phone. This leaves the magic box in the front storage tray by itself, leaving the tray clutter free. I also carry a small tire plug kit and 12 vdc tire inflater that can be powered from the trickle charging plug as well.
Awesome! Yes adding another power source is a great addition. Only if we could easily get a true second data port!
I believe apple and harley have a contact where apple provides the software for free or whatever as long as android isn't offered. It's all about money. Why else would Harleys nav suck. It's to get more people switch over to Apple
Unfortunately I am seeing many comment that they switched over, some going back to Android. Its just unfortunate!!
That BT bug has been driving me crazy. Every single time my phone gets pinged with anything, my IFCU jumps over to BT audio and I have to manually switch it over every time... So glad to hear they are working on a fix. Thanks for all the great info, I'll be doing that vent modification soon.👍
Yes a crazy bug for sure, the call for Bluetooth should be an easy fix to implement but it will be another OS update. Hope we see other improvements for sure!
Adding to the mystery, the new Diamond Audio & Soundstream head units for 14-23 Harleys came out this year & both have wireless AA & CP.
Won't fit these new bikes but I do suspect we will see something!
I ended up switching to an iPhone. I was tired of playing the games with android. I miss my android, but it was worth the switch.
You are not alone, I am seeing comments and emails from others who opted to switch but then I see the same of them switching back to Android because they couldn't live with the iPhone. I think an AI box with a SIM, if you have an Android phone with a physical SIM that you could move over to the AI box for trips might be a good alternative for many. But the boxes have their own issues!
I don't apple!
Harley Nav Isn't very detailed, loads slow, sometimes just doesn't display (yes have latest update)
Android boxes (commeco) doesn't always load, takes a long time. Some features work with buttons, some thing have to use touchscreen. (Not a reliable option)
All options suck! I mounted my phone to the bars and use google maps for decent directions.
Paid good money and disappointing options! I want Android Auto! In the meantime Harley your Nav could use some upgrades!
U are so rt, I use my phone from the bars as well, very reliable!!!!
Don't disagree!
Android is no longer giving New certs for new gear. It’s across the entire motorcycle industry, even aftermarket. There’s a workaround to get Android Auto that actually works.
Would be great to see a statement from Google. If Google is going to discriminate against motorcyclists, we may need to consider the IOS platform!
@@ITFZone You would never get me to personally use Iphones lol #android4life
the biggest problem is overheating and i have left the lid open going down the road to help with cooling
Yes they do over heat, if we could mount them outside the cubby we would be set. They are built for air conditioned cars!
Hi Tom, my fiancé has a 2017 SG and she’s an Android user. Did you ever have a post showing how to add AA on her bike?
I believe it was the 2019 model year when CarPlay and then AA showed up. Not aware of the option for prior years.
HD does offer the BoomBox GTS as an upgrade kit, you should double check but it should work on most 14-18 touring models with the purchase of a seperate USB connector. I do not know if it comes with CP/AA or if they can even be installed, you should see if your dealer could verify this for you.
If you look at the March flash, and dig into the file structure, you will find that the IFCU looks to be running an Android OS. So, I find the lack of Android auto kind of funny.
Agree, the release articles indicate HTML 5, Linux but for sure signs of a Google OS.
@@ITFZone another funny thing - the folder INSTANA_240002237D.zip\INSTANA_240002237D\orch-pkg\update-pkg\devices\alexa
@@ITFZone And you are correct - looking again, I see a bunch of shell script files
Can't you just use an Android Auto dongle?
Unfortunately not, since the bike only supports CarPlay you need an AI box that supports OEM CarPlay. However with this new display you also need one based on Android OS V10 or the gauges will overlap the AI display.
Seems to me that someone just simply forgot to put it in
LOL, Let's hope so!
bought a Street glide CVO2024, i was an android user. So i bought a iphone 15 pro. BIG mistake, expensive shitty phone ( can anyone tell me why that piece of crap cost so much ? ) and it don't work well with the infothainment system. Harley, Apple and Google, get your shit together, there is nothing wrong with our money that we pay for your stuff
Nice bike, apple is trash. I have a 24 road glide and am waiting for a product or update for AA because I'll never downgrade to apple from my Samsung fold
Android and Apple people are different! Nobody should have to or want to change platforms for this bike!
@ITFZone seriously... someone told me they used an ottocast to get AA on their bike but it was a 2021 with the boom box OS. I gotta see if it's compatible with the 24. I hear it works great and is very fast to load
I had no luck with the Ottocast. Has to be Android V10 to work. The Onince I showed in this video is pretty good, faster than the original Camecho but time is limited with it thus far.
They make some of the best, if not the best, hardware on the market. You not liking the software is understandable, coming from an Android.
the Onince box says for android phone utnil 2022, do you know if you have a S24 samsung it will work with ?
Your S24 should be fine with this system as it is the software and not the hardware. These devices do work with the latest Android OS. Its the Harley's SkyLine OS that is not compatible with many of these devices. You have a 30 day return option with Amazon and don't hesitate to reach out with questions.
I have the onince box and have it working. I am using a cardo headset with it. I have problems routing the notifications from google maps to the headset. Hey google and phone calls work but not navigation prompts. Any suggestion's? or is this just a limitation of the box? I have the audio routing set up on the bike appropriately. Thanks.
To verify, which device is your Cardo paired to, just the bike or also the AI box or phone? I will do some testing with it. Feel free to email me ITFZoneEmail@gmail.com
@@ITFZone Cardo is paired to the bike. I tested a friends iphone last night any everything worked prefect unfortunately with car play. Thanks!
To clarify... I am trying to have the music play on speakers and google navigation prompts go to the head set. I have audio routing on the bike set this way.
The minute I can switch back to android I will.
I don't blame you! If you go with an older iPhone that supports a SIM card you could swap you SIM back and forth and use the iPhone just for the bike.
@@ITFZone Hmmm interesting idea, You could use an old iphone as your Media/App Device, that is connected to your Android Phone mobile hotspot, however text messages, calls and such will not work.
@@jeremywilcox3472 Correct the idea would be to move your Android SIM card over to an older iPhone which would give you cellular service. Then just move it back to your Android phone when not on the bike.
my boom gts which I have my phone connected for text messages. if I'm listening to music and I get a phone call my music stops and it says on the screen accept or cancel, I cancel as I don't have a microphone , its the same if I have a text, if I click listen when moving then music will stop and the text will be spoken.
Does the new skyline OS have the capability to send an auto text message ? If Im riding and someone texts me, I can listen to it or read it if stopped, also my bike sends a automated text saying 'Sorry Im out riding, I will respond later' , this message is completely customisable, didn't know if the new system had it
The challenge with the Android bug is that it does not switch back so you are left at a Bluetooth screen. The SkyLine OS does offer auto responses to text messages.
Good job
Appreciate the support!
Because Harley went woke. They follow and no longer lead.
I think they are innovative especially around compliance requirements but were they ready for such a technology leap. But those of us who have been faithful for so long probably never thought having CarPlay on a Harley would ever have any importance!
JE VEUT TRANSFERE MOM GOOGLE MAP DE MON CELL ENDROID DANS MON STREET GLIDE 2024 SKYLINE OS CES QUOI LA MEILLEURE OPTION MERCI
Vous devrez enregistrer votre itinéraire dans un fichier GPX, puis le stocker sur une clé USB. Vous pouvez ensuite importer ce fichier GPX dans la navigation Harley via l'option d'importation. J'ai trouvé ces étapes en recherchant :
Pour utiliser les données GPX de l'application Google Maps Android, vous pouvez suivre ces étapes :
-Ouvrez l'application Google Maps sur votre appareil Android.
-Recherchez l'emplacement que vous souhaitez enregistrer en tant que fichier GPX.
-Appuyez longuement sur la carte à l'endroit que vous souhaitez enregistrer. Une épingle rouge apparaîtra.
-Appuyez sur l'épingle rouge pour afficher les détails de l'emplacement.
-Faites défiler vers le bas de l'écran et appuyez sur le bouton "Partager".
-Choisissez l'option "Exporter vers .GPX" parmi les options de partage.
-Enregistrez le fichier GPX sur votre appareil.
Je vous remerci mais je comprend rien dans vos explications je ne suis pas tecnique du tout
@@RaymondDuhamel Pour utiliser un itinéraire planifié par Google sur la navigation de votre Harley, vous devez exporter la carte vers un fichier .gpx, puis l'importer dans la navigation de Harley. Ai-je raison de dire que vous avez un itinéraire planifié dans Google Maps que vous souhaitez utiliser avec la navigation de la moto ? Il pourrait être plus facile de travailler par courrier électronique, ITFZoneEmail@gmail.com
Multiple issues like this, the clutch and all the buttons being in strange places led me to trade off my 2024 RG. Don't see myself buying another Harley at this point.
Do you have an older Harley on hand or different brand? We will see what happens overtime. I am very curious what Q2 and Q3 sales look like!
@@ITFZone I still have my 2019 RG Ultra. 43,000 miles on it, I'm very comfortable with it. The nav works the way I want, I like the smoothness of the hydraulic clutch and I know where all the buttons are. If only it was as fast as that 117 but it's close!
@@quiettime6871 Yes indeed the new motors are awesome but you could always upgrade your M8. Enjoy the ride!