An Embarrassingly Long Analysis of the 7 Lightsaber Combat Forms

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  • @just_limerence
    @just_limerence หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Form I - Shii-Cho (Way of the Sarlac or Determination Form) - 1:05
    Form II - Makashi (Way of the Ysalamiri or Contention Form) - 17:30
    Form III - Soresu (Way of the Mynock or Resilience Form) - 33:38
    Form IV - Ataru (Way of the Hawk-Bat or Aggression Form) - 48:34
    Form V - Shien/Djem So (Way of the Krayt Dragon or Perseverance Form) - 1:12:44
    Form VI - Niman (Way of the Rancor or Moderation Form) - 1:45:45
    Form VII - Juyo/Vaapad (Way of the Vornskr or Ferocity Form) - 2:03:48
    Various Forms/Derivatives - 2:39:56
    Thought having a good way to skip through the Forms would be super helpful for people who would like a full discussion on their favorite forms. Thanks for this, it's really helped me immerse myself and help use all of these forms as a "martial art" in training to be a Star Wars cosplayer professionally

  • @Archivist_of_Stupendous_Wave
    @Archivist_of_Stupendous_Wave 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +290

    Hahahaha!! This one was SUPER fun. I hope you all enjoy and thank you for having me on as always Stupendous Wave!

    • @jontew3538
      @jontew3538 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You 6.7 beast i agree with all you say

    • @eminescueliade4206
      @eminescueliade4206 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I definitely do come back soon ❤

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's sounds interesting for you actually

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Of course

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very good idea actually master general sir Hayden Christensen himself

  • @SlothSkeleton
    @SlothSkeleton 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +339

    Sees lightsaber forms. Sees length of video. Nerd mode engage.

    • @TheCasaresway
      @TheCasaresway 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Lol. Yes.

    • @ChanceTM
      @ChanceTM 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Facts.

    • @isaakriosss5557
      @isaakriosss5557 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Love it Same

    • @greyjedi6430
      @greyjedi6430 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah take note andor
      #andorsucks

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Engaged of course

  • @-westman3619
    @-westman3619 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

    "Vader cannot lift his arms above shoulder level" *vader lifting palpatine above his head and tossing him like a flightless bird*

    • @SaraBlade
      @SaraBlade 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      See what happened was he took it as a challenge and if there is one thing you don't do is challenge Vader...with exceptions of course

    • @Althar9809
      @Althar9809 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@SaraBladeThis example shows that both Vader and Anakin had the same big flaw : hubris

    • @Blackmuseops
      @Blackmuseops 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ignoring the obvious, this video does

    • @Blackmuseops
      @Blackmuseops 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@ufc3459 but that also means that the armour argument is wrong. We see him do it

    • @Al-ir6vb
      @Al-ir6vb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He actually just picks the Senate up by the armpits and carries him about two feet, The Chosen One then arches his back and keeps his arms around eye level to shove him over the railing... I think that 'can't raise his arms above his head' is still applicable to canon...

  • @AnakinSkywalker-mm3gi
    @AnakinSkywalker-mm3gi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

    I like to watch these kinds of long lore videos while I'm cooking, cleaning or just trying to fall asleep.

    • @stuartthomas94
      @stuartthomas94 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      same. always passing out listening to 3+ hr star wars, 40k, GOT, LOTR, game retrospectives.

    • @TheStupendousWave
      @TheStupendousWave  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Hope you enjoy!

    • @JoshyyBear_
      @JoshyyBear_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Big facts

    • @itzjetlife3639
      @itzjetlife3639 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      or eating

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good thinking

  • @LexWinchesterr
    @LexWinchesterr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    Awesome, I saw “embarrassingly long” and it didn’t disappoint, great video man! There is no such thing as a long video for SW :)

    • @TreySaddler
      @TreySaddler 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      How would you know? You commented 2 minutes after the video went live? Lol

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good thinking my mistake

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Absolutely correct

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very good idea

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's a great idea for you Hayden Christensen always

  • @krizula1117
    @krizula1117 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Oh boy, this is gotta be the biggest Holocron yet

  • @CSmith41591
    @CSmith41591 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Surely I'm not the only one who found it hilarious to describe Obi-Wan's use of Mou Kei on Anakin as "cutting corners", right? 😂

  • @aster4jaden
    @aster4jaden 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Now THIS is just what I needed!
    Makashi is my favourite Lightsaber Style, it's just so sophisticated and elegant.

    • @eugenelau3927
      @eugenelau3927 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I like Form V Djem S0 & VII Vaapad myself!!!

    • @aster4jaden
      @aster4jaden 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@eugenelau3927 My other favoured Forms are Form VII Juyo & Form III Soresu, I also like Jar'Kai and Telekinetic Lightsaber Combat.

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Weapon

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Of course I do care about the comments and the people I care about is Skywalker's only and respect for the other jedi masters and padawans as well

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agreed with dgem powers of course form 5

  • @Originalthumb
    @Originalthumb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    It’s nice hearing this kind of unedited conversation from you!

    • @Originalthumb
      @Originalthumb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Honestly would love to see more episodes like this

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your absolutely welcome Hayden Christensen always general master sir

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your welcome

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your welcome

  • @GGBlaster
    @GGBlaster 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +127

    We need a SW video game with the lightsaber forms in a skill tree.

    • @lennythevilla6973
      @lennythevilla6973 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Hell yeah we do!

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Good thinking

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      May the force be with you always Hayden Christensen general master sir

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Good thank you so much merci

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good thinking alright then guys

  • @BladeEdge86
    @BladeEdge86 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I: Let the force be your guide
    II: Lethal precision
    III: Ultimate defense, wait for your opponent to make a mistake and then strike
    IV: Gotta go fast
    V: Overwhelm your opponent with aggressive strikes and counterattacks
    VI: Learn the basics and be mediocre, or truly master it and become one of the dealiest duelists of all time
    VII: Either let the darkness take over for power (Juyo) or control your inner darkness to serve the light (Vaapaad)

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Number 5 for me thankyou

    • @justaregularguy115
      @justaregularguy115 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Vapaad .....(I'm a dark ninja).

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@justaregularguy115 maybe not at all

    • @kevinthunder3375
      @kevinthunder3375 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Juyo isn't dark. It was just dangerous. You had to have strong mental and emotional fortitude.

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BladeEdge86 that's true absolutely

  • @MrStiwan46
    @MrStiwan46 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Just lighted the reefer and then comes this gem in, thanks for this hilarious amount of work you sick geniuses!

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't be rude to me thankyou very much and I don't like being called names at all.

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Chinese facials now that's Canadian jokes that you like exactly

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gore puke of pumpkin spew.

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am not sick at all

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's true exactly what about pumpkin stew and that's Canadian jokes that you like exactly

  • @darylsdesigns6679
    @darylsdesigns6679 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    My favorite users of the known lightsaber forms:
    Form I Shii-Cho: Lucien Draay, Kit Fisto, Kento Marek, Every Jedi Youngling.
    Form II Makashi: Count Dooku, Asajj Ventress, Jerec, Shaak Ti.
    Form III Soresu: Obi-Wan Kenobi, Darth Zannah, Kanan Jarrus, Luminara Unduli, Barriss Offee.
    Form IV Ataru: Yoda, Qui-Gon Jinn, Ezra Bridger, Aayla Secura, Quinlan Vos, Ahsoka Tano, Darth Talon, An’ya Kuro, Satele Shan
    Form V Shien/Djem So: Anakin Skywalker, Luke Skywalker, Plo Koon, Ulic Qel Droma, Darth Bane, Galen Marek, Ahsoka Tano
    Form VI Niman: Exar Kun, Darth Krayt, Kao Cen Darach, Cal Kestis(implied), Starkiller clone, Darth Plagueis(implied), Darth Maul, Darth Sidious, Revan
    Form VII Juyo/Vaapad: Mace Windu, Darth Maul, Rahm Kota, Darth Sidious, Sora Bulq, Depa Billaba.
    Three Rings of Defense: Most members of Luke Skywalker’s New Jedi Order
    Trakata: Darth Traya, Corran Horn

    • @aidanhogan-thomas1797
      @aidanhogan-thomas1797 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      No Revan mention in Niman???

    • @Darth_Sheepus_the_wise
      @Darth_Sheepus_the_wise 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Bane also knows form 3 and is near Obi Wann level of it

    • @drakethesnek6429
      @drakethesnek6429 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Add revan, sidious and maul to the list of form 6 masters.

    • @BladeEdge86
      @BladeEdge86 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ahsoka tends to use a combination of Ataru and Shien with a bit of Djem So thrown in when she needs a bit more power.Sidious used a combination of Niman and Juyo.

    • @ryanmccann8576
      @ryanmccann8576 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Props for the Corran Horn reference.

  • @raiderax8532
    @raiderax8532 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    1:43:27 Ik I’m commenting a lot but I just love this video (taking me days to finish) but yea anakin was THE goat in this form if you take a closer look at mustafar you can clearly see at the end anakin is standing tall vs obi wan is definitely winded and obi wan is profiling maneuvers that he’s never done before in this duel which can also be a factor

  • @donavonhoward114
    @donavonhoward114 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I'd like to believe that because Windu understood the blade motions of form 7 better than any Jedi of his era, he was able to successfully mount a defense against Palpatine's initial offensive explosion at the very beginning of their dule, and match his saber skill. The other Jedi Masters in the room could not anticipate the strikes that were coming at them, and were unfamiliar with the bladework, speed, and ferocity of going up against a true master of form 7, so they were surprised, and quickly killed. Also, there were hardly any Juyo practitioners in the galaxy, let alone the Jedi Order, and most Jedi mainly practiced against other members of their own order in sparring. Battling Sith Lords (the apex predators of Force wielders) was even more of a rarity, let alone fighting blade to blade with a Dark Lord as powerful and furocious as Sidious. Some of that is probably just my own head canon, but that's the fun of Star Wars. Everyone see's the subtleties of the lore in their own unique way. It's a never ending discussion, and that's why we love it so much.

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good luck then

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      May the force be with you always master general sir Hayden Christensen Skywalker himself

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@donavonhoward114 me too exactly

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@donavonhoward114 so do I exactly

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@donavonhoward114 exactly

  • @andrewmcconnell-ns1lk
    @andrewmcconnell-ns1lk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Kao Cen Darach was a practicioner of Niman, he was able to hold of Darth Malgus and Darth Vindican long enough for Satele Shan and some republic troopers to escape and warn the Republic and Jedi of the Sith's return

  • @jedichristian7294
    @jedichristian7294 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    It would be very interesting to see both Obi-Wan Kenobi and Barriss Offee dueling, even though we all know that Obi-Wan would win but the duel would last for probably a very long time due to the fact that both Obi-Wan and Barriss are skilled at form 3.

    • @drakethesnek6429
      @drakethesnek6429 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kenobi is also skilled in form 4, and at least according to TCW cartoon, offee's main form is 6.

    • @jedichristian7294
      @jedichristian7294 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@drakethesnek6429I’m not taking about “dark jedi Barriss” I’m referring to padawan Barriss because she used form 3 a lot in the beginning of the clone wars before she turned to the dark side, but maybe she had secretly studied Niman prior to her turn to the dark side. Also Obi-Wan may have used Ataru at some times in his duels but it was barely shown because we see him use form 3 a lot more than Ataru because that’s the form his is more focused with.

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How amazing

  • @theeroyaltgaming
    @theeroyaltgaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was a excellent video! I love the lore and you guys add takes to it.

  • @nickmillar999
    @nickmillar999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Am I the only one who would be very interested in seeing a mixture of form V and VI? I feel like being able to mix in force abilities with your counters would create a powerful level of battlefield control. Using Niman’s reactive tendencies to allow your body momentary respite from the physical demands of Djem So could allow you to persist through a potentially longer fight. Another point to it when dealing with blaster fire, I could see a master of both forms using the openings between blaster bolts to force pull or bind their opponents within range; closing the distance in a moment

    • @stevenceja4706
      @stevenceja4706 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In my ideal Star Wars world, I'd love to combine Niman with Shi Cho's randomness, Makashi's finesse, and Shien's defense.

  • @_TheManInBlack_
    @_TheManInBlack_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    starwars is a escape for me. and i’m 24. these videos are a blessing man.

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very good thinking exactly

  • @ollaitsrealgood
    @ollaitsrealgood 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have been waiting for this video for months. Thank you. I love you.

  • @antonioperezhernandez5846
    @antonioperezhernandez5846 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Simply amazing video, you should do more like these about different topics

  • @raiderax8532
    @raiderax8532 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    1:39:04 thanks for clearing this up I always have a hard time pinning down exactly how strong and how good anakin is when comparing him to old masters yoda and even windu in the end a fight is about more than just power but IQ and strategy and just being able to keep your wits about you

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Of course it is the right thing to do that exactly

  • @Delta68494
    @Delta68494 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    So the jedi that got in the way during a battle with bane on Tython was Johun Othone, just in case anyone wanted to know as the video didn't clarify. The only other thing I think was intentionally implied by the bane books but not directly stated or mentioned by anyone, bane not only focused study on form 3 due to losing his armour but because of how he gained it. When the orbalisks attacked bane the wording in the audiobook is "The colony of crustaceans broke free on mass and cascaded down on him in a chitinous swarm" "it was like trying to ward off raindrops in a storm" He literally took that experience and learned how to block raindrops as redemption for falling victim to the orbalisks. Definitely one of my favourite features of bane, everything bad that happens to him, he learns to beat in the future. Bane only 'lost' to Zannah because of her force abilities, bane not only laid her on her back but he disarmed her, if she were any other force user of the time, including her own temporary apprentice (Set Harth) she'd have died.

    • @Archivist_of_Stupendous_Wave
      @Archivist_of_Stupendous_Wave 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      JOHUN OTHONE! THAT was it!! Thank you, that was killing me! Also I love that take on why Bane decided to learn Soresu, I haven’t seen that perspective before.

    • @Delta68494
      @Delta68494 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks man, I think it's accurate. It's just the phrasing that hints at it but it's the repeat of the word choice that made me sure of it. I love the bane series, if I could ever study under a master it would definitely be bane.

    • @Archivist_of_Stupendous_Wave
      @Archivist_of_Stupendous_Wave 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Delta68494 agreed. Bane is for sure in my top 3 favorite Sith. The Bane Trilogy was my first step into the Legends universe and it got me hooked right away.

    • @Delta68494
      @Delta68494 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I completely get why. It almost killed the movies and series shows for me. I hope some day they make maybe a 3 season series for bane to cover each book.

    • @Delta68494
      @Delta68494 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh could I ask you about Set real quick? What do you think of him and his character? I wish there was more about him especially after he escapes the stone prison with Darth Andeddu holocron

  • @starwarsbrainbusters5587
    @starwarsbrainbusters5587 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    LOVED THIS VID SM, As a SW TH-camr, this inspired me so much not even kidding. Please make a tier list on the strongest force wielders, i would LOVE That

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As you wish my Master Hayden Christensen anakin Skywalker sir general 4

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And may the force be with you always Hayden Christensen always

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Your absolutely welcome

  • @josephfuller9539
    @josephfuller9539 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Dude was the reference of Qui-Gon and Maul and the soft sand from The Diary of Maul? If so that was a B-Side Deep Cut that I am proud to have caught.

  • @GenlennialEntertainment
    @GenlennialEntertainment 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Never knew about all the nuances in the forms before. Thanks for that guys. Personally, I wouldn't use them. With the force as an ally, I'd construct multiple sabers to use at range, or as shields. Totally using trikata if I have to. Guide one saber around behind or to the side, ignite it to distract, then three more come in from different angles. Even above or below. For sure going to use the area around me too. Surprise rocks, twigs, clip boards or small objects. Annoyances to wear down the stamina and confuse. While comfortable in cortosis armor.

    • @DarienJDees
      @DarienJDees 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That incredibly unique 😮
      I'd love to see such a style in action

    • @GenlennialEntertainment
      @GenlennialEntertainment 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@DarienJDees Thank you. I never understood why force users never used the force more inventively. Say you have a ship, maybe one that is trying to take off and leave with a certain Count in it. Why not reach out and pluck a few of the vital wires to the engine, or hyper drive? Cripple the ship and then clean up after.

    • @DarienJDees
      @DarienJDees 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@GenlennialEntertainment that's so insidious...but genius 😅
      The only jedi that I think might think of something even remotely that subtle is Shak Ti

    • @GenlennialEntertainment
      @GenlennialEntertainment 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@DarienJDees Right?! Oh no, not the big bad droid army. Whatever will we do? Use the force to short out their remote control, cpus, or communications. Watch them start flopping, gaining free will, or running around like the runner that freaked out Obi Wan and Anakin. The force has so many untapped uses that it boggles the mind. None of the force users we focus on ever think outside the box enough to make use of it. Even grand masters. The only time I think I've seen the subtle use was with Quigon. The trick he pulled on Watto to get a chance at taking Anakin.

    • @lennythevilla6973
      @lennythevilla6973 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It isn’t that easy to tap into that level of the force in an instant except for those with the highest midichlorians. Yoda, Vader, Palpatine sure everyone else no, not like that. I mean we have now seen Vader do it in the Obi Wan series.

  • @MikefromTexas1
    @MikefromTexas1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    One fucking massive undertaking...
    And I thank you for it.☕

  • @rdp281089
    @rdp281089 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Personally, I think my lightsaber form would be form V Shien and Djem So. A form prepared for any threat I've always had the belief that "the best defence is a good offense" Seeing as I'm 6"3 and I fight with physical strength and with a counter attacking philosophy. It would just compliment me perfectly.
    Thank you for such an in depth and thorough video, I don't think I've come across such an in depth video about lightsaber combat anywhere. Keep up the good work!

  • @Zeus3135_
    @Zeus3135_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I love these long videos.

  • @maiaspen307
    @maiaspen307 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There’s nothing to be embarrassed about here… Stand on a f*cking podium with a 🏆!!!! You slayed this video!
    WELL DONE! 👏👏

  • @JohnWayne-y1b
    @JohnWayne-y1b 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They're forbidden moves for a reason, Obi wan had to deal with the consequences until he died

  • @Althar9809
    @Althar9809 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Two of my favorite things : Lightsaber forms and stupendous Wave long discussion video… what more to ask ? Very great content as always !!

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Althar9809 you too Hayden to

    • @Althar9809
      @Althar9809 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rachelprighel4409 ??

  • @drakethesnek6429
    @drakethesnek6429 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Before i even watch this video, let me remind people that niman is the primary form used by darth sidious, maul, revan, krayt, exar kun and kao cen darach. Maul won against qui-gon using niman, not juyo. Same with sidious versus maul/savage, though i think sidious is prone to bouncing between niman and juyo.
    Lastly, nowhere is it stated that niman is weak in any department, including dueling and battlefields. By its very nature, niman is average at everything.

    • @garrettlich7140
      @garrettlich7140 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s the jack of all trades form and it’s my fave

  • @leng6338
    @leng6338 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks!

  • @ZerohSyks
    @ZerohSyks 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This theory might be a little out there but I feel like it might hold some water.
    After order 66 it seemed like the Jedi you know like the good guys, they became stronger and my theory is since there was less Jedi in the Galaxy the force can only act through so many people at once with such levels of strength. So maybe the force got like distilled down to maybe like a stronger version of itself because it wasn't spread out so much to so many other people.
    I'm not saying that back in the day a whole bunch of Jedi couldn't use a bunch of force abilities that were super powerful I'm saying that it became easier for lesser Jedi to use more powerful abilities because the force didn't have so many to work through. Idk that's just a theory I was having last night.
    I'm just trying to add rhyme to reason why Ezra Bridger and Luke Skywalker and I don't know Kyle katarn they all became just extremely powerful even though they didn't train as younglings... Okay Luke probably could have trained to be a Jedi at the age of 50 and still would have been a badass though I'm just saying don't don't come aboard me because I said Luke Skywalker.

    • @ZerohSyks
      @ZerohSyks 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sry, I was ... Tore up when I wrote this one... 😂

  • @Randomthew
    @Randomthew 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing video. If i were a jedi, i would strive to master both makashi and sorisu, both emphasize energy conservation and tight precise moves, but makashi is focused on precise killing blows and sorisu is focused on a perfect wall of defense. Mastering both would be a potent mix

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice work Hayden Christensen himself ❤

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Randomthew definitely

  • @jodhaaakbarfantuomey8103
    @jodhaaakbarfantuomey8103 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fast style worked best in JEDI ACADEMY, people who dislike Niman are simply naive, the beauty of it is that if you've mastered it, then it becomes anything you need it to become. Also, it's incredibly inclusive, and a master could add other marshal techniques or even dance moves. Far from being a mere swiss army knife, it is supremely customizable to both practitioner and situation.

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jodhaaakbarfantuomey8103 absolutely

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jodhaaakbarfantuomey8103 of course

  • @raiderax8532
    @raiderax8532 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I feel like I’m watching an ESPN episode starwars style and it’s AMAZING everything was so well articulated I shall add this to my training🙏🏽

  • @donstarlancer
    @donstarlancer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Welp guess I’ve got something to watch working from home tomorrow 😁

  • @Silver_Sage663
    @Silver_Sage663 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:30:24 Shien is what Vader used in the hallway scene in Rogue One (I think). I'm a massive fan.

  • @MosEisleyCantinaStories
    @MosEisleyCantinaStories 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just started this an HR ago or so. So far no repeating yourself, no "double speak" due to editing. Thanks for taking my advice

  • @skaterock420
    @skaterock420 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video is a ton of fun. This level of detail in world building really brings the story to life.

  • @cehkking3376
    @cehkking3376 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    me at 2am see this was posted: "well I didn't have anything important to do tomorrow anyway" (I do)

  • @nickchesser4150
    @nickchesser4150 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don’t be embarrassed bro, this is badass.And so are you. I love your videos👍

  • @solidsmoke9372
    @solidsmoke9372 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    thanks for the work could you add timestamps for each form ?

    • @fenrir_Lokison9
      @fenrir_Lokison9 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It will never happen. That forces the viewers to watch the whole video, that makes the algorithem happy.

  • @MandoMax55
    @MandoMax55 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Anakin definitely felt Obi wan weakening on mustafar. He even tells him “this is the end for you my master”. I think the only one aside from maybe sidious that could have beaten Anakin after he turned to the dark side was Obi wan but only because, like you said, he was the only one who really knew Anakins major weaknesses. I wonder if Obi wan would’ve resorted to getting padme involved if she was present bc that also would’ve been a possible Achilles heel for Anakin.

  • @unarealtaragionevole
    @unarealtaragionevole 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have always wondered, does the word 'form' mean style? No one seems to say what a 'form' really is. I listen to descriptions, pros/cons, and opinions...but I never actually hear what a form is in Star Wars. I mean at the end of the day a lightsaber is a fancy sword. And a sword only has 10 basic moves: 4 cardinal movements, 4 diagonal movements, thrust, and draw. That's it. Everything else is a version of, or a stylist approach to the 10 basic movements. So is that why they are talking about?

  • @TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH.
    @TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH. 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    45:17 TO 45:56 [WHY OBi-WAN SWiTCHED STYLEZ BETWEEN PHANTOM MENACE & ATTACK OF THE CLONEZ],
    27:46 TO 28:50 [HOW ANAKiN BEAT DOOKU],
    1:00:12 TO 1:01:30 [MAUL'S THOUGHTZ ON QUi GON'S SKiLLZ],
    1:57:56 TO 2:00:09 [WHY SO MANY JEDi GOT KiLLED ON GEONOSiS],
    2:22:26 TO 2:23:22 [WHY MAUL'S SO ARROGANT],
    2:49:55 TO 2:51:12 [MAUL'S WARRiOR HONOR]
    ALL OF THE ABOVE THEY SHOULD'A SHOWED & OR EXPLAiNED MORE iN THE MOViEZ THEMSELVEZ RATHER THAN HAViNG TO FiND OUT FROM A NOVEL COVERiNG THE EVENT
    47:23 TO 47:38 [HOW OBi-WAN WON ON MUSTAFAR], TRUE
    [NOT YELLiNG, JUZT LiKE TYPiNG iN CAPZ]

  • @alejandronunez5110
    @alejandronunez5110 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This 3rhs will be a delight

  • @Assenayo
    @Assenayo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You have mastered the secret 8th form: Weaponized Autism. This was incredibly deep.

  • @Gmen2487
    @Gmen2487 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Is there any way to merge all 7 so that there's perfection for both light and dark side?

    • @drakethesnek6429
      @drakethesnek6429 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No. The closest to a perfect hybrid style is form 6 niman.

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Correct answer

  • @ltshoes6278
    @ltshoes6278 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love these long videos for my Tuesday morning solo shifts.

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your absolutely welcome alright then

  • @tracaine
    @tracaine 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Trakata is the only common sense form. Why would you not use the ability to turn your blade on and off?

    • @davechongle
      @davechongle 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      same reason as any other culture that values a sense of honor. they see it as a bad thing to do. it is also dangerous and might not be worth the risk unless you are 100% confident that it will work.

    • @kevinthunder3375
      @kevinthunder3375 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not a form lol. It's just a move.

    • @spindoggytheexplorer2915
      @spindoggytheexplorer2915 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kevinthunder3375 I don’t think it was ever really developed fully into a form by anyone but there’s so much more that can be done with it than just “a move” that it could easily become a form if someone were to dedicate themselves to its use.

    • @kevinthunder3375
      @kevinthunder3375 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@spindoggytheexplorer2915 but it's a form. You you just turn your lightsaber on and off lol. Or rotate your crystals to change the length.

  • @euclyptuseuphoria3759
    @euclyptuseuphoria3759 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Assuming peaks, I honestly think Vader beats Yoda purely due to how ridiculously powerful Vader is in the Force. Yoda is constantly using the Force in battle, Vader can afford to use it sparingly.

  • @Lego-Joe-1
    @Lego-Joe-1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I would use form 2 makashi and form 3 soresu. One for lightsaber combat and one for blaster deflection.

    • @shlamallama6433
      @shlamallama6433 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's what I'm thinking

  • @theSANDMAN366
    @theSANDMAN366 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is one of THEE greatest videos ever created!!!

  • @playboig4696
    @playboig4696 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good shit my man keep this up ya holocrons r reaching us in the outer rim (da hood)

  • @BreitheNua
    @BreitheNua 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Edit: Your archivist basically made the same point later in the video anyway lol.
    1:06:00 I think ROTS Yoda would win against Vader, but I think it's less to do with mastery or power and more to do with *mobility*. If Vader had the same level of mastery of Soresu (instead of just sprinkling it into mostly Djem So) as Obi-Wan then I could *maybe* see him outlasting Yoda even with his physical limitations, but he doesn't, because even at his most measured, Vader is offensively-minded. He's offensively-minded like Yoda is, but very immobile compared to Yoda, and that's what gives Yoda in ROTS the edge over prime Vader.
    Admittedly I am basing this off of my own experiences of immobility as a disabled person that uses a cane (dropfoot in right leg), and Vader has prosthetic limbs and use of the force, unlike my crippled ass lol. But still, I stand by my assessment.
    TL;DR Vader is like an unstoppable, slow-moving force, that Yoda can (with some difficulty, Vader still isn't a pushover) maneuver around and slash the legs off of.

  • @BlackJoePesci
    @BlackJoePesci 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Saving this one later for cleaning day 😂

  • @nilesrodriguez4343
    @nilesrodriguez4343 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the best videos on lightsaber forms I've ever seen

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann8969 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There should of been some many light whip formulas, electrostaff formations, blaster formats, as well as thermal destinator formers too yeah.

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good idea actually try that idea

  • @matthewturley352
    @matthewturley352 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really enjoyed this, found out lots of new things! Thank you :-)

  • @realhouston8156
    @realhouston8156 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Guess what I know what I’m doing for the next 3 hours

  • @DarthJunkie666
    @DarthJunkie666 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hell yeah when you n Geetsly make hr+ long videos i get soooooo pumped up. Lol thank you so much Stu!

  • @drakethesnek6429
    @drakethesnek6429 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My personal choice in forms:
    1) niman
    2) makashi + shien

  • @Darthpickleric
    @Darthpickleric 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ty very much I asked for something like this awhile back and enjoyed it very much

  • @samuelrobles3737
    @samuelrobles3737 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Day 438 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon

    • @carlousmagus5387
      @carlousmagus5387 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How's that working out for you?

    • @samuelrobles3737
      @samuelrobles3737 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@carlousmagus5387 One who follows the Will of the Force is one who lives a full life. I know for I am one with the Force and the Force is with me. May the Force be with You....always

  • @TheFly212
    @TheFly212 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    FORM V and VII are the best. As Tulak Horde, Darth Malgus, Anakin Skywalker/Vader, Darth Bane, Mace, Revan, Luke Skywalker, Darth Sidious. Where all masters of those forms and used them all the time. When the best duelists of all time directly specialize in your form, then it's the best.

  • @dosequis22
    @dosequis22 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ah yes...embarrassing...definitely...
    *downloads for after work*

    • @playboig4696
      @playboig4696 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      💀💀my brother just clowed me for watching this, imagine a gun toting, weed smokin party nigga watching lightsaber forms

  • @arcticfox1108
    @arcticfox1108 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m a huge fan of Ataru. It perfectly matches my personality as an energetic person when engaging in physical activity and I feel like if I can learn some basic gymnastics, along with some more advanced manoeuvres, I could be an absolute beast in a lightsaber duel

  • @drkushajagadeesh6347
    @drkushajagadeesh6347 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It finally happened!! I've been waiting for this video for ages! 😍

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed with that answer actually

  • @jdzencelowcz
    @jdzencelowcz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'd prob'ly B basic, form 1&2, 2 being restrained to wound not kill, with enough 3 to block blaster bolts to good effect.

  • @olof1382
    @olof1382 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    bro this cant be real

    • @TheStupendousWave
      @TheStupendousWave  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Search your feelings, you know it to be true!

    • @TommyLuciano-qe8gx
      @TommyLuciano-qe8gx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Luke:I don't believe it. Yoda:That is why you fail

  • @williamross6477
    @williamross6477 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “An Embarrassingly Long Analysis of the 7 Lightsaber Combat Forms” = My Life

  • @SHARKVADERS
    @SHARKVADERS 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Force Education

  • @dylananderson466
    @dylananderson466 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always love hearing from the archivist!

  • @LiShuBen
    @LiShuBen 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is the perfect thing to practice my sword forms to ❤

  • @levig2366
    @levig2366 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    YESS Finally an unreasonably long lore video on lightsaber combat

  • @mattkeeler3599
    @mattkeeler3599 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That Jedi that he is thinking of his name is Johan otho

  • @kevinthunder3375
    @kevinthunder3375 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shien is also very useful in a saber duel, and it was used by Ahsoka, Plo Koon, and Anakin, but Djem So is better, which is why Anakin learned that too. Shien is, essentially, the midway point between Soresu and Djem So.

  • @Blackmuseops
    @Blackmuseops 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video! Very comprehensive

  • @avarycepierce6296
    @avarycepierce6296 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My favorite forms would be: Djem So, Juyo, Vaapad and Trakata. I know a lot of people see it as cheap shot but when used effectively: absolutely lethal. I'll always vouch for it.

  • @Zeldazed
    @Zeldazed 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’d use a hybrid of Makashi and Soresu. They emphasise efficient movement to preserve stamina which would help a great deal in longer duels but they cover each others weaknesses. Makashi’s precision and offensive capabilities would help after the opponent has made a mistake or completely tired out whilst Soresu is effective against blaster fire and multiple opponents on top of being a two handed form that generates kinetic energy. All of this would help which would cover Makashi’s weaknesses.
    As for tràkata, I would use it as an absolute last resort but it definitely shouldn’t be used often as you’d basically be begging to become one with the force.
    Thanks for the great video guys. Always love learning more about the lightsaber forms

    • @DarienJDees
      @DarienJDees 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Excellent choices 👌🏾
      I think I'd use a similar approach except I'd use Makashi with a two-handed grip for more leverage and easier transitions along with force integration from Niman.
      ...well either that or a Soresu-Djem So-Niman combo. But my Djem So would have to be based more on technique than power cuz I'm on the small side.

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How very strange is that when you find out what's going to happen sooner than usual

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly that suggestions for both of us then

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      May the force be with you always Hayden Christensen always general master sir

  • @TheFly212
    @TheFly212 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Revan’s best combat feat happens in Shadow of Revan, where he fights a strike team composed of the galaxy’s most powerful champions. The Outlander, who had defeated Vitiate previously, was pretty much fodderized by Revan in this expansion.
    Revan’s best ambiental feat is summoning multiple meteors. I remember that the calc for this feat yielded around 60 teratons, which would be enough to destroy a country.
    So to put this in perspective. Revan would curb stomp any and all "Lucas/Disney" era Jedi or Sith. Even Sidious, cause Vitiate is actually a bit more powerful than Sidious' and The Outlande, who beat Vitiate, got fucking ROCKED by Revan.... So Revan would fucking Rock the shit outta Sidious. And thus he'd rock anyone. Even MarReySue Skywalker......

  • @jamiehanley9046
    @jamiehanley9046 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So my interpretation of what Lus-ma might be, a seemingly aggressive form akin to Juyo, but with faints that consist of super precise jabs and slashes akin to makashi.. so you throw a faint that looks like it's gonna be a really powerful blow from the upper right, but then shift to a precise jab from upper left.

  • @gabrielsantosloureiro1219
    @gabrielsantosloureiro1219 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My favorite forms:
    1 - Vaapad
    2 - Nyman
    3 - Djem So

    • @VanTesla
      @VanTesla 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a good top three, I think. Vaapad is an offshoot of Juyo that Mace developed that takes advantage of Darkside users' own strength. We see how well it does against Sidious, as George stated in the past. Mace won the duel.
      Niman is a great but difficult form to truly master given it takes from all forms. The Jedi Battle Master Cin Drallig is the best practitioner during the Clone Wars and in lore held up against a newly anointed Darth Vader during the Temple raid and lost due to Vader using Cin apprentices as distractions. Also, Exar Kun was a master of the form for a Jedi/Sith.
      Djem So, of course, given Anakin and later Luke as Grand Master. It's a great top 3 in my view.

  • @IanArendell
    @IanArendell 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great speech on Luke and form 5! That was perfect

  • @BreitheNua
    @BreitheNua 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On the question of what form each of us would use: I think due to my lack of mobility as Crippled Fatass McCrippleson, personally I'd go for defense with Soresu, but try to mix in a lot of force pushes in order to maximize defense without having to move my legs much. And maybe try using rapid-firing blasters before the enemy gets in close-enough range to actually engage me in melee combat, so that even if I don't actually hit them with said blaster, I'm at least making them waste a little bit of stamina dodging or blocking said blaster-fire. When you're disabled, you gotta use whatever tricks you can, lol.

  • @C4MG1RL
    @C4MG1RL 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Personally it's between Niman and having a weird mix of Shi-cho, soresu- and shien. I feel like that would be the best way to embody a more peaceful path while still providing options to end a fight. Using Soresu's defense to try and negotiate and if that fails shi-cho to disarm melee and shien to disarm ranged opponents.
    Trakata, IMO, is nice in theory but not for practice. People forget that sabers withdraw and extend, not turn off like a flashlight, and they make a loud noise while doing it. So, you have to bait them into an attack where the instant you remove your guard they aren't just going to keep the swing going and hit you, and an attack they can't just quickly recover from, then move in that time they're still following through to strike, ignite and hit them while it's extending.
    That's a tall order. Honestly you better bet would be to have a cortosis crossguard. Turn off their saber while yours stays on.
    Also: another reasoning I've heard (and like personally) is that if the crystal is connected to you with the force and it amplifies your connection and feelings into the blade, then you CAN'T turn it off unless you match that feeling. That's why enemies can't just wave hand and shut it off but have to rip it out your hands, why throwing it works, and why turning it off without it making sense contextually doesn't happen.

    • @C4MG1RL
      @C4MG1RL 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thinking more on it, that'd be great combo to survive order 66 too. Soresu would give a great defense from blasterfire, shien would allow you to take some out by weaving its reflections into the deflections, and shi-cho would be great for taking on the large groups of clones.

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very good idea actually of course

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Definitely

  • @DarienJDees
    @DarienJDees 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent breakdown, guys ❤
    Makashi and Soresu would probably be my combination of choice. Calm, efficiency, and precision 🌟

  • @ianjohnson7761
    @ianjohnson7761 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the guys doing this video was 6 ft. 7 in.?" You know there is a bassist who plays for the German metal band Rammstein, Oliver Riedel, who is also 6' 7". My three chosen lightsaber forms would be Juyo (because I'm a Sith Lord), Soresu (for defensive purposes in lightsaber dueling and for better defense against blaster fire) and Makashi (basic lightsaber 2 lightsaber knowledge [I love Christopher Lee]).

  • @JLoC.2479
    @JLoC.2479 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So Niman comes in 2 flavors jedi-"Diplomats form" used by jedi who want a form that doesnt need constant practice so u can focus on other pursuits (like johan othone) but also "battle master" that allows them to use one or two blades to cycle thru 6 forms and add unpredicable personalized forms like Exar Kun Darth Revan Pong krell Cal kestis Starkiller II Darth Krayt , but I think if u were doing multiple forms , I like form III soresu, form V shien/djem so , form 6 niman , form 7 Juyo/Vapaad , a mix of those forms would be monsterous

  • @BRIMZ619
    @BRIMZ619 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You guys the best. I watch everyday!

  • @jfs8997
    @jfs8997 หลายเดือนก่อน

    17:03 all great combat arts eventually boil down to solid foundational technique and being able to evolve from it, most “masters” always go through a period of learning and evolution, but gradually come back to basics, but it never looks like the basics to the less trained

  • @sird4543
    @sird4543 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They say the greatest lesson in life is humility. Anakin could've easily walked away from that fight on Mutafar. And he would've gained everything. Instead, he wanted to chase Obi Wan around until he got the upper hand. At the same time, Sidious had control of the entire Galaxy.

    • @rachelprighel4409
      @rachelprighel4409 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Spot on Hayden Christensen

  • @emafex
    @emafex 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Doesn't Vader have his way of dealing with speed and acrobatics. Not only that, but in The Vader comic into the fire it , doesnt it show that Vader has gotten to a point where he is able to do flips in his suit? What do you think? I think he would have a plan to fight Yoda. Right?

  • @ALF8892
    @ALF8892 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Im already an expert on the lightsaber forms but I still watched the video

  • @lordtravin5487
    @lordtravin5487 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think ataru is simply the natural evolution of the preceding forms. The preceding forms are responses to larger changes to combat the addition of blasters etc. Ataru occurs at the time when technology and skill sets level off and they begin adding the force more directly. Plus it looks cool...
    Totally using this video to pick a form