What rank would past RLCS Pros be today?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ต.ค. 2021
- I FIGURED IT OUT! I did an experiment that allowed me to figure out what rank past RLCS pros would be if they played today! In this video I show what rank you would need to be to compete in each past RLCS season. Are you good enough to compete in season 1 of the RLCS? Find out in this video!
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I grabbed 10 of the most experienced ranked coaches and had them judge the rank of games from various RLCS seasons. I didn't tell them that they were watching old RLCS replays though. They thought they were just recent ranked games so the answers they gave were completely unbiased. I averaged out all their answers for each season and put it together in a timeline to reach the final estimated ranks for what you'd have to be to compete in each season of the RLCS. The experiment turned out much better than I thought considering the season lined up almost perfectly in order of lowest to highest rank. It really shows you that these coaches know their stuff and estimated the ranks pretty accurately.
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Don't forget that in those early seasons they reached that level without any tutorials or guidance from higher level players. I wouldn't be near my current rank without the abundance of help on TH-cam and Twitch. Respect 🤝
Same, bro has been playing since '17 & is GC with the boys. Started this year but wouldn't be where I am w/o them.
They didn’t have see through goal posts either.
They also literally couldn’t ceiling shot or flip reset. This mechanics weren’t possible then.
@@ernestryles at that skill level, ceiling shots and flip resets weren’t really needed since they could still score some basic shots. They only use those mechanics now because the defenders are so good
@@jadenhurd7187 No, they literally were not possible. It had nothing to do with ability. You couldn’t do those mechanics until Neo Tokyo (the original one, not the standardized one) was added to the game, and they made it so you would hold your flip if you fell or drove off of surfaces. That addition made ceiling shots and flip resets possible. Before that, there was no way to do them. Season 4 was the first RLCS season where they were possible.
mans just stopped 1000 plats from saying there as good as squishy was back in the day🤣🤣
except in plats now were better then squishy was back in season 1-2. lol
I mean did you see the kro vs gibbs 1v1? lmao golds could 1v2 them.
@@sumireravenclaw8034 no they wouln't lmao you must be rly low ranked if you don't understand how much rotations matter
@@sumireravenclaw8034 no they weren't, squishy was already a top player back then. He was a top 1v1 player during rlcs s1 and the sub for g2 in season 2. iirc either torment or squishy said he was going to play on vendetta with torment in season 2 but it fell through or something, dont remember tbh. If you want to know more ask torment next time he streams but I am 100% sure I remember hearing something along those lines
Fax
As an ssl being held in d3 by my teammates, I could obviously compete in any RLCS season.
I’m staying primed with my /whoosh
@feisty me too lmao
Quality comment, made me giggle
it is ur own fault dummy
@@noaholson7094 it’s showtime
He got me good, ranking season one through me for a loop because there was really good rotation but no mechanics and hardly any air play. Thanks Wayton for letting me be a part of this!
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🚨 🚨 grammar police here to inform you that you should’ve written “threw” instead of “through”.🚨🚨
@@isaacbuiltdifferentRL nevermind, maybe his mother language isn't English like me, but u are correct
@@zeca672 I kinda hate people who do that, like it's a typo or whatever everyone knows what they meant 99.9% of the time
I've been playing rocket league and watching RLCS since day 1. I'm C2-GC1 now depending on the day and the teammates. The thing is, a lot of people who were casually playing in the beginning had no competition to push the advanced crazy mechanics. Imagine starting the game now and being inspired by the crazy stuff you can witness, as opposed to queuing in lobbies for entire months without seeing a single aerial.
Inspiration really does speed up the mechanics process. That's why I hate when other new players act like they're better because they ranked up faster. I started in ftp and just hit gc, I've met plenty of people who are in similar situations and feel like they're just some prodigy. It really annoys me.
C2-Gc1 is a big gap tho. Was gc1 your peak and then you dropped down to c2?
What system
@@aidan1909yt I've got friends in all ranks so I just play with them. Haven't tried to solo queue since season 4/5. But imagine having 4+ years worth of bad habits to try and break, instead of starting off training with all the help that is available to new players nowadays
@@lilwhopperjr I've played on all of them. Day 1 means I started on PS4, then again to show it to new friends when it launched on Xbox. Only been playing competitively on PC since f2p
This was one of the most interesting vids you've done so far, keep it up wayton!
Yes defiantly true
Omg. I remember the rise and fall of kuxir97.
I remember discovering him on twitch in xmas 2015 and being absolutely fucking amazed at the skill of this person, my jaw literally dropped. He never really spoke on stream so he just let his gameplay do the talking, he became this mysterious deity kind of figure within his small community lol. His mechanics in those early days were on another level to everybody! He was the first pro to legit include double touches in his play by about 6 months, long before Deevo went op with them in season 3. The community was raving about Kronovi back then but kuxir97 was quietly dominating in the background with his unique mechanics and his team... Then his success with F3 in MLG and all the the weekly tournaments they were in 215 and 2016. F3 were the best team in the world winning virtualy everything for like 18 months. Rlcs season 1 was the only upset i can recall where they lost to ibp, even someone like Kronovi went into that final being the underdog against them. Then kuxir went from being the best mechanical player in the world to being the best all around competitive player. He was really a big innovator in the mechanics department, the kuxir twist, kuxir pinch, defensive shadowing. He used a ds3 back then because you couldn't adjust the deadzone sensitivity in game and a ds3 would give you a lower more responsive input. Then he was the best 3's player in the world in season 2016. Then in season 2 to about 4 he became the best 1's player in the world for around a year or so along with scrub and he used to dominate 2's with marky. Kuxir was everything at one point within different times. Best mechanical player, best 3's player, best 2's player with marky, best 1's player, an innovator.
Back then there was quite a big jump from the best players in the world to all the other pros. Unlike today were a lot of pros are just so good.
Wow U really wrote a whole essay
@@Tyreek1...and we thank him for that. 👍
Such an interesting thought. Appreciate you including me in the research Wayton. Awesome video as always.
Was lots of fun indeed!
Really liked that notation about how season 2's rating got where it was. I can only imagine how confusing the vod reviews would have been for the coaches. It's cool to see the effects/struggle they had with that!
I'd just like to point out that Squishy, GarrettG, and Justin are all over this video. Shows how long and how consistent they've been throughout the years. Crazy to see the goats all on 1 team and making a comeback!
This was so good! I was literally talking to a friend about this the other day, better answers than I could have asked for
Love the video, but from personal experience I can say 100% with full confidence, last season (Season X) was not 2k mmr gameplay... I was 2037 last season and although it was a very high level, against a full pro team we just had no chance. It's difficult vs them in ranked alone, so when they're in a team with people who they mesh well with and have a lot of chemistry, it's game over. I can also say that their consistency compared to anyone that isn't pro is astounding and completely unmatched.
It says 2000+
You have to note tho it’s different watching gameplay than playing in it that’s why these things won’t be completely accurate
Thank you for letting me be part of this project Wayton! You really got me thinking on these replays and I enjoyed it, keep it up!
When you've been playing for 14 seasons and still aren't as good as a pro in season 1 LMAO
Dam. Just stop playing rocket league at that point.
@@JsKiri bruh why
If they like it, why stop
Thats a slap in the face tbh
@@JsKiri if u play rocket league only for ur rank and not for fun your not even playing at that point
@@opax ok and. Bros been playing forever and still ass
This is the most unique rocket league video I’ve seen in months, and it was executed perfectly! Anyways I’ve been looking forward to rocket league side swipe for a long time now, but I can’t seem to find any release date, or game details since it was announced in march. If you have any information about sideswipe, please make a short video about it! (if anyone else wants to see a video on this, like this comment)
I NEED IT
I think they said that it would come out late this year, I could be wrong though
They did say that, but they said that a long time ago, and never confirmed it. So considering the year is almost over, and they haven’t announced a final date, it makes me think it could be later.
If this is the most unique, I think you haven't watched any SunlessKhan. The concept of this video is something he has done and he has done more actually unique videos the last months.
that actually makes me feel much better about my ranking progression, not like I'm actually comparable to actual pros or anything but seeing them have such a slow timeline of improvement feels nice
As a person who's played in GC2 i'd have a hard time seeing being able to compete with the pro's from season 7. I feel the ranks are shot under a bit.
These videos are so good !
Thank you Wayton for these videos
I have been watching so many old rlcs replays lately. Watching the progression is fascinating. Keep making content on old RLCS!
Interesting video! I think everyone wondered about this at some point. I've asked myself so many times, what if I could travel back in time with my current skills, would I be able to compete? This more or less answers the questions, thanks :D
Great video, it's a funny thought that me being in C2 was potentially good enough for RLCS season 1. However, imagine being the first to push the limits of rocket league, and getting to a level that is still considered fairly good today. They're still legends
Love this.
You could mix in some actual current replays of each rank as controls too which could be helpful
Ayyy great job on the video man. I had a lot of fun helping out with the project! I'm cheering for ya in the race to 500k!
The dedication of this video speaks volumes and is a true testament to your passion for content, keep it up Wayton
Really good idea, only missing a control from maybe a league game in a similar rank as what the couches where saying the RLCS games where.
Yeah he really needed to have them review gameplay from the actual ranks they were guessing.
Gameplay notoriously looks slower in replays.
This was a great concept for a video and the execution was great (I also loved the little Wayton interruption in there)
This really brings into perspective why players like Squishy and Jstn were so incredibly ahead in earlier seasons. I couldnt imagine a gc1 pulling off consistently the things that they did.
i was literally thinking about this yesterday, good video i always wondered how s9 pros would do today
They'd be top 24-32 in their region bubble players is my guess.
These videos are so interesting! Damn!
I think you may have forgotten to mention some of squishys flip resets from season 6 tho
This is great, thank you!
Great vid Wayton!
Wayton’s videos always make my day better
Thanks for the video 👍
I love you rlcs videos,I hope you can do more and I wonder if you could make a video about Kaydop?
Love the vids
Love the BTD battles song in the background
very interesting video idea and great execution with the coaches
This video was super well done
Such good content. Well done!
dope idea love the vid bro
Waytoney is just so good man keep up the hard work
Great vid. I wish you also showed them gameplay from each rank today as a control variable to see if their judgement was accurate in the first place but hey that's a lot more work so, oh well. Still interesting as hell.
I always wanted to do a video like this but could never make it work, insanely high quality video man well done
Great video, you got a sub too.
Soo much time goes into these!! It shows
This is so cool!
Good video Wayton, keep up the great work!
This Is an Amazing video!
love the editing!
Great video
Love the vid
tysm for this vid I always asked myself that question
Quality content! Would also be great to see vid on season 9 vs season X difference, e.g. get coaches to guess which replay is from which season and explain why.
Imo wait until season 11 is done and compare the three
5:44 im gonna say that squishy's goal against wedemgirlz with the flip reset dunk was better
Awesome video ! I always wonder why RL's pro players are so much younger in average compared to other tier 1 and 2 esports. Your video clearly shows how much the game has evolved, and how difficult it must have been to stay at the top for long. I wonder if the current generation of pro players will push upwards the average age of retirement since they already master so many mechanics. One could argue that new mechanics will be found, but I don't see the game becoming that much different. Any opinions on that ?
Wow interesting video! Nice idea wayton
interesting vid bro. good job
Congrats on 400K!
loved this video
1:57 Why is no one talking about this absolute banger of a clip? Pulse Wayton when?
Wayton, you are a real one
Subbed, hope you win the race
this is an awesome video
This is my take on how the seasons go and I was gonna make a video on this maybe, seasons 1-5 pros had specific skill sets like fireburnner being known for 50/50s and deevo being deevo and the seasons after all players began to merge skill until most people can do everything better then a normal ranked player
This is such a good video
I matched up against Vogan (RLCS season 1 player for the Flying Dutchmen, who got 4th place i believe) about half a year ago. I was floating between diamond 3 and champion 1 at that time. Really interesting to see how the skill ceiling has increased so much!
this is such a good video idea
I literally don't understand why you have only 365k subs, you deserve 1M sooo muchhh!
Kind of weird, as a current champ 2. For instance the highlight from Quinn held some indecisiveness and positioning errors which I would be hitting myself for, but then the highlight from Overzero with a clean air dribble and decisive play. Interesting though, it's really good to play a game like rocket league where the skill ceiling is constantly being pushed higher.
Wayton coming in clutch with the study hall uploads
So season 1-6 i could have been in RLCS, nice, but ofc not without help from pros and content creators for videoes on mechanics and stuff on yt tho, that is so much help.
Cool vid !
Once again, a perfect experiment with very surprising results.
Awesome video, I've always wondered. I'm c3 nowadays :)
the level of play has improved a ton ive played since 2018 and freestyle for fun not really moved rank much but the average skillof players has gone up a lot, but i've equally gone up so the lobbies feel just as difficult but of a higher quality interesting
Please upload more your my favourite rl TH-camr
10:28 "What is that touch, upside down?" 😂
I felt as though i'm a gc2 and have been near 1700, theres absolutely no way I can compete with rlcs s5 or more recent, who knows maybe I'm just bad. Great video though
well near the end of the video Wayton did mention that the one coach looked back at all the gameplay and said that it actually looked like SSL decision making just not the mechanics so that's probably why even though you're GC2 you feel as though you couldn't compete with them
I thought the exact same thing. im gc2 but s5 Jstn is shitting on me LMAO
Agree with you, I have no idea what these coaches are thinking. I am a GC2 and there is absolutely no chance anyone in our rank would compete at S5+. Perhaps due to the change in meta things may look slower, but that's not the only factor determining lobby rank.
Exactly the same with me! I am gc2 and have dogshit decision making and positioning. Szn 4 squishy shits on my face for sure
Lesss goo just hit c2 a few weeks ago nice to know I might have been able to compete in RLCS at some point
This was a really cool video ! Makes me wonder how good player will be in another 6 or 7 years.
I played against M1k3Rules recently and he has not changed since RLCS, I'm guessing he might not play it anymore, but still occasionally streams and plays ranked so it was cool to meet him
I think it is incredible how much development there is in rocket league. I started playing first about a year ago and am now familiar with most of the mechanics (obviously not able to pull them off). But I thought that things like Musty flick, speed flip, or flip resets would have been around for a much longer time, but actually, they were invented just in recent years.
Crazy how much better pros are that even 5 years ago they would still be better than 90% of the players are now, after all these mechanics were invented
Well i have found one of those past rocket leauge pro's yesterday from early rocket leauge "Veeds" GC1 in 3s and not even a good GC1 im pretty suprised how things end up.
Thats a friend of mertzy :D
I also just know him as friend from mertzy and like lower pro scene... Did he get into the higher pro scene ever bc i dont know it?
@@juxi1718 Very early season but even back then he was not realy one of the "good" pro's dont think he got into rlcs
for me the best goal of season 4 has got to be al0t's ceiling drop no question
That one was nuts
Mhm, im champ 3 and while i see ppl doing more mechanical stuff, they also do so much more mistakes and are so inconsistent in their shots. Id rank season 1 in gc and every other season even higher.
Good content
we cant forget the rank squishes they keep doing as well I hit Champ this season at 1075 mmr I saw in one of thanovics videos even back in January champ 1 was 1247 mmr so I think that could be interesting to see how that all changes it too
If the season 5 shot was an iconic one that people who don't even play rocket league know. Wouldn't coaches who spent thousands of hours analyzing games recognize it
Thanks for having me, was lots of fun! Now y’all champ 3’s can say your basically pro!
A good one also its the jstn 1v3 in finals vs ssg
could not have asked for a better video.
Im 5 seconds in.
it would be cool to hear the some of the coaches thoughts on tthese
I think it would be an idea to show us what is the current rank of the former pro players.
For example, Kronovi's current rank today , OverZero's current rank today, Gibbs current rank and so many other pro players that competed in rlcs back in the first seasons, players that no longer are to be considered today as a PRO
As a Plat I approve your disclaimer.
To my fellow plats who think they're hot shit. Watch one of your replays days after playing and just see how bad we really are.
Epic Video
Hey Wayton, you should get these coaches to guess random ranks
Wayton!!!
Love your vids man. Always being the best rl content creator in my opinion hope you get that Alpha Boost.
I gotta say seeing this now with players like Zen, Dark(?), and Rw9 makes me appreciate how far the game has come
Wow best video u ever made
Personally I think most of these ranks are supposed to be a tad higher than they ended up being. I'm GC1 and if I played some of these games rated as such on ladder, I'd be convinced they're smurfing. Then again, I can't really blame anyone, as the gameplay just looks so different from usual ranked.
I think the coaches mainly judged the ranks by mechanical ability and underrated the positioning and consistency of these players. You see it all the time, old pros returning to the game get placed in GC3 and easily make the push into SSL.