the "i am the mountain that people need to climb" quote really made me dislike him as a character. Soon after season one people climbed this so called mountain. And there were a lot of talented people, with better attitudes and were more entertaining to watch. Also i find it weird that this video is about "the best rocket league player ever" and people like GarettG, Kaydop, Scrub and Fairy peak are not even mentioned. Garett won every a title every year he attended except one where he placed 2nd place. The others i mentioned achieved much more on the highest level than Kronovi ever did. So in my honest opinion Kronovi is not even close to being the best RL player of all time. Even in season 2 there were some far greater than him
@@that1panther105 looking at the gameplay from the that time im sure it wouldnt be a big struggle.. altough perhaps what they lack in mechanics they had in gamesense.
@@N_u_r_d they didnt have much gamesense at the time either since the game was so new im not discrediting them at all but a random 3s lobby for gc in ranked today would win worlds in season 1 and thats a good thing since it really shows the progression of this game over time.
Is there any mechanic actually for him though just as a side note? Only one I can think of is when players say "I'm Kronovi-ing" when they are on the opponents back wall awaiting a pass from tm8 to shoot off the wall.
@@mugiwara-no-luffy I haven't heard of that either. Al0t was the back wall redirect guy. What Kro did do though is come out of his opponents goal and redirect it back in. Could be what they mean!
IMO if he never thought of the mechanic, someone else would have. Like, someone else 100% would have came up with it without him. It's only a matter of time before someone else would have, it's like entropy.
@@rbdel the hype surrounding rocket league’s popularity/growth = energy. the entropy of that energy will always make optimal techniques. Law of infinity might be more accurate, but English is always bending words.
@@niismo.i always loved lachinio’s fast play style and i still idolize his play style to this day. He will forever be one of my fav pros next to deevo and mijo.
not to bring pressure to him or his surroundings, he's coming back soon, maybe not as the best.. but certainly as a better person and probably as a better player for a team.
the opposite feeling for me. It feels like all those iconic first 6 seasons were so long ago but it's only been a few years. I left this game for 2 years and coming back now I barely recognise anyone and my boy forky finally made it to pro
New rocket league pros are a joke I mean they just take whats been already made from zero They dont learn by themselves they steal ideas just like everybody these days i have yet to see a pro swift the game completely like kro did
He was the original pioneer. Players now might be advancing at an incredible speed, but they’re just walking down the path that Kronovi helped pave. An absolute legend.
The graph of his "rise and fall" looks like a mountain. In a sense, he was the mountain the next generation of professionals climbed to surpass and see greater heights.
is it me or, wayton is the best editor out there for his own videos, he is truly a rocket league editing mastermind, the color of the text, the blur on the background, the sick music, he know how everything goes and when everything goes, love ur vids :)
Idk why he’s racing for alpha boost, he already deserves like 1 million subs, and people like striped, thanovic, cbell and others do as well! (like helical, spookluke and MANY others)
8:50 “Unfortunately for Kronovi this would be the biggest accomplishment of his career” If being a world champion is an unfortunate peak than those are some high expectations
This is like any other sport. Kronovi was a pioneer who laid the groundwork for the next generation. No pitcher from the early 1900s could make it in the MLB today, and Esports have even more volatile growth than more conventional sports, so it makes sense that he couldn’t stay on top forever. However, he will always be one of the greats
Oh man this takes me back. When all the current pros just had their “esl monthly” titles and you know you were gonna lose when you matched against one of them.
I can't believe i'm just finding this video. I used to watch private scrims with Kro and iBP and listen to their coms in their private discord and seeing all these old clips and car designs is really bringing me back. I was never super close personal friends with any of them, however Kronovi and iBP gave me one of the most unique experiences i've ever had in my life. I was able to witness the beginning of rocket league's skill ceiling long ago, and it's incredible how far the game has come. This game would be nothing without Kronovi's investments and it makes me so happy to see videos like this. Great job.
A lot of people overlook Leth for the GOAT. He's stayed relevant for a VERY long time and pros today still have to sweat when they play against him. His mechanics aren't even close to the best, but game sense, decision making, and basic skills, he's cream of the crop. And he's a phenomenal teacher!
This is the type of high-quality content I love, and it used to be the reason I WAS subscribed to Sunless. You can easily tell how Wayton takes an idea for a video, he researches, dissects, structures, comes up with a planned script and then edits it to make it all fall into place, probably passing through multiple iterations until this awesome final product comes to fruition. Outstanding job!
Totally agree, it's why I first subbed to Sunless. He doesn't really do content like that anymore. I think Wayton has a passion for film making and you really see it come out in these videos. There was an empty space for these documentary type RL videos and Wayton is delivering exceptionally well. If we can get a video once a month like this, that'd be hype.
exactly this, khan used to be my favorite rl youtuber but now his videos are so uninteresting and repetitive, compared to wayton who id describe as sunless in his prime and then twice as good
I doubt many people remember that first RLCS but I sure do. Hollywood Principle performed live and it was so awkward but so cool. I remember that OverZero air dribble and going NUTS
Yeah it was sick. i remember being for iBP at that time and kronovii was my favorite player back than. it's thanks to those old players that i still play the game till this day. except that it took me until season 14 to reach GC lmao
That performance was so out of place I still laugh about it today, as someone who never followed sports super closely, I can still remember the hype I felt when overzero put that goal in as a ibp "fan" lol
This is kind of wrong, because in RLCS 1, Kronovi's team was actually considered to be an underdog. At this point Kuxir's Team Flipsid3 Tactics was considered to be the best team in the world, and Kuxir the best player. The video is really good, but it feels like it's overly portraying Kronovi as the undisputed best, when him and Kuxir were always very much equals. You can make an argument for Kronovi being the best, but not while leaving Kux out of the picture like this.
Yep, people even thought lucky bounce was better and that switching Gambit to Over Zero probably really helped iBP rather than it being a disadvantage because they were not looking good in qualifier 2 probably from coms
Underdog because of his teammates. Everyone agrees kro was leagues ahead and was the carry/backbone for that team doing well. Kux had stellar teammates beside him (even though, yes, he was considered the best on his team). Best two in the world for sure, but kro basically super supported eeeeeeverything his teammates did and was always in the right place at the right time. His game sense was absolutely off the charts. :)) No hate, just love for your opinion though. Have a great day my man! ^-^
@@ethanheadrick7027 Oh for sure, Kronovi was by far the best in the team. I'm just trying to promote some more detailed journalism instead of this whole "As expected, they were dominating the event" narrative. You have a great day too!
To Kronovi's defence, no other esport is as unforgiving as this one. Top pro players last no more than two or three seasons in this game. It's much different compared to many other esports were there's 27-28 yo players still dominating after years of them playing.
Which is what makes Squishy the GOAT for me, nobody else has been that relevant. I think the skill ceiling always raises in every game. The absolutely best e-sports players in their genre, Faker, Viper and Flash/Jaedong etc would at their peak lose in direct comparison to the best current players, but that doesn't damper their absolute dominating rule of their time.
@@LasseLundster Then Kronovi would be the strongest Rocket League player to have ever existed. As the video said, at the start of Rocket League as an esport Kronovi could solo carry teams to victories in major competitions. No other RL player has achieved that ever since. Still, Squishy is definetly one of the most dominant RL players as he managed to win the world championship twice.
@@davidebic I agree, but including overall span of competetive career and the state of competition as factors beyond only level of reign, as Kronovi was a battle car pro at release in a young scene. I think a strong case can be made for both as overall bonjwa, and it's just my personal opinion that overall factors outweigh peak skill level gap from you to the scene, especially considering the above, weighs slightly less. But I wouldn't be surprised if Kronovi was declared the GOAT, either, and support either opinion.
@@LasseLundster well a title such as the GOAT are way too subjective. The only relevant fact is who's dominating at a certain point in time and oh boi ZEN is looking amazing rn. He's a strong candidate to joining the zenith of RL players.
If i think about that i played him back in the first seasons and he teached me basics is such a great memory. Just the fact how the community was back in the first season is unbelievable. Such a massive an positive impact back than
Wayton this is an amazing video. Thank you for going into so much depth and making such enjoyable content. Look forward to more videos like this in the future!
Excellent excellent video. The way u present this including your edits, narration and timing truly are second to none. I found myself completely invested in this story as it progressed. Soo good Wayton my friend. Top notch as always. P.S. I love the older content and how you let the game clips tell the story. I can’t get over how impressed I was by this video. Exceptional.
This brings back so many memories of the early days of Rocket League. He is one of the reasons I started playing this game a lot and have loved it ever since. . Kro is one of the 'pioneers' of RL
you should do this for each season of rlcs. I just started playing and watching so having this type of context when going back and watching makes it so much sweeter.
Ohhh my. What an amazing idea for a video. I know this is going to be great already. Ty so much for making my Monday morning at work just a little better.
Sorry, sunlesskhan still wins. This man is amazing, but I put him 2nd. I will admit sunlesskhan is going downhill, very slightly, since his retirement, but still going strong.
@@realtechhacks yep, so sad he had to stop making videos. Apparently making new interesting content for rocket league is super difficult. Hoping he making a comeback video in a few years or so.
Its actually crazy go see the classic Kronovi footage which at the time blew my mind and now see everyday in diamond 1-3. He was truly what got my into rocket league and I definitely learnt the game from his streams (I remember once talking to someone at work about RL and they were struggling to grasp a forward double jump and here we are watching this guy score crazy aerials 1 day after release ). I imagine he will be a face on RL esports on the panel for years to come.
No way! I forgot about this dude! I used to watch him all the time starting out in rocket league, dudes videos got me to where I am today (gc3). Much respect to this player!
I got goosebumps from viewing kronovi and overzero's "air drag"s at the season 1 That was a pretty difficult skill, I remember that Paschy used to do it, then Squishy released a video (now deleted) saying that it was not Paschy's shot, but should be called squishy drag (something like that) That goal from kronovi was unbelievable at the time
@@joaom.bezerra1915 I remember watching all these guys doing what now seems like simple gameplay, and wonder how tf they did any of it lol. Crazy how time flies.
I remember when i started playing rocket league it was my "chill" multiplayer game. I didn't really care about my performance and just found it fun and kinda hilarious. The trading was also a fun bonus. Now, i nitpick my mistakes to be better. In other words, ranked broke me. I also haven't traded since keys were a thing.
I think recency bias has made everyone forget how truly dominant he was for the per-RLCS and even season 1 era. Even has a Kuxir and Flipsid3 fan back then I gotta give respect.
Love the content. I began playing in like June or July 2015. Kronovi was definitely the undisputed king then. By July 2016, it was a battle between him, Marky, Kux, and Paaschy. You noted this well most of his rivals have long retired. A garden variety GC 1 is better than the best back then. That Mount Kronovi is relevant is pretty amazing.
I began around the same time. Yes Kronovi was the best back then, but for a long time I saw Kux as the best and I thought this video might be about him to be honest. Where Kronovi dit a lot in the beginning, Kux got to the top when the competition was a lot more on fire and watching him felt like watching a wizard with a lot of tricks up his sleeve and a reaction time that didn't seem possible. Still, in terms of popularity and his early rise I understand he gave Kronovi the title.
Kronovi discovered what I would say is the mathematical equivalent to multiplication or division, now a days the game has evolved into complicated calculus. The game has "changed" so much while none at all, I am amazed at the way the players have made so much progress over the years making new mechanics, in-game tactics, etc.
I am one of the 40 people that played SARPBC even though it was a love/hate relationship. Kronovi and lachinio were beasts. Amazing to see what the game turned into
Man i wonder how much people actually remember Krovovi for being one of the best player in RL back in those years. I can defiently say i remember watching his YT videos when i was getting into RL myself back in like 2015/16. Long live a legend of RL for his time.
Damn. It's really weird to think about how much the game has changed. I didn't follow rlcs and just heard rumors about kronovi and maybe watched him on twitch a couple times. Used to think he was godlike. 6 years later I hit GC and apparently kronovi was playing like a high diamond that whole time. Wild. Time truly changes almost everything.
I love how you made a graph-like mountain for the thumbnail to represent the rise and fall of Kronovi, which also resembles his profile picture on yt, with a crown on the top of the mountain, symbolizing the time when he was considered the best rl player.
Love your content man. Ngl the outro was due for a badass feels good outro song. Wouldve been soooooo dooope. Loved the video man! Keep up the hard work!
EXCELLENT premise and delivery of content in this video. I would have loved to hear from Kronovi about what he believes led to that decline. Was he not practicing enough? Were there challenging life circumstances at that point in his life? Was he just simply being outplayed for no reason at all? I think a short interview with him would have been very enlightening for all of us (an interview I'm assuming you tried to obtain). After seeing this video he may be more motivated to give his side of the story and what he believes led to his fall from the top. I would love to hear from him concerning this particular topic.
It's not even bad that he got surpassed, he pretty much pioneered the advanced techniques in the game, and it's only gone up from there. That's just the way of things, everything and everyone gets to learn things earlier and improve on them, that's how everything progresses and evolves.
i remember back in the original season 3 back in 2016 when I started playing, everybody liked G2 the most and Kronovi was the undisputed goat, sad to see him fall off
Great video. I knew a good portion of the story already but you were good enough in your delivery and style that you still captured my focus. Can tell a lot of work went into this. Well done.
Watching his play in the early days is what inspired me to learn wall to air dribbles which is still my favorite thing to to in rocket league 👍 everybody else was on the ground and he went over them all from the wall it was incredible to see so early.
So how did you learn it? I'm like 700 hours in (Plat 1, so couldn't be more average ;) ), tried to train it and watched tutorials, but kept getting frustrated and never mastered it. Is there any special trick or something about how I can learn and practice it?
@@bruellbart2380 definitely free play. Just spend time chilling in free play listening to music, watching a show in the background, but spend time in free play. I also suggest trying to find players higher level than you to play with. You’ll improve so much by running constantly with people better than you.
Reading the comments, I see so many describe how good your edits are. For me, I didn't even notice the edits..... thus I think I can confidently say, your edits were perfection, as that should ultimately be the goal. Great trip down memory lane and I think a well deserved homage to the OG GOAT.
This kinda reminds me of Einstein in a way. If we take an average physicist and compare it to Einstein, the average physicist would have way more knowledge and skill than Einstein. But Einstein is truly amazing for his ability to come up with complex and phenomenal theories with little technology.
@@hesaidchest well it’s not just about technology. We physicists learn many of the ideas Einstein had to put a lot of thought into at such an early time. The concepts that physicists at that time would struggle with is what modern physicists learn during uni or even high school. These concepts becomes our second nature, but for Einstein it would probably take more effort.
@@hesaidchest well he did make a massive mistake when using one of his own theories, a couple of times in fact. But besides that, it would still make sense. People are able to do so much more because the theories Einstein made up is built up in their foundational knowledge.
Without him and his dedication to Rocket league i cant imagine. 99% of the Rocket league Playerbase is still using what he and other legends invented. All the Basics we still use today aeriels, Rotations everything we think of as normal is thanks to this guy. He is truely the reasson how we play Rocket league today.
This video is incredible and I’m glad he’s getting recognition for the bar he set early on. I just recently started getting back into RL and I was wondering why I haven’t heard his name mentioned in any RL content. I’ve been seeing Zen’s name everywhere and I’m wondering if he will be the next “Kronovi” in that he will be the undisputed best player in the world for a while.
I've played this game since July 7th, 2015. I remember watching kronovi score these crazy goals and wanting to be able to do it so bad. I practiced every single day after school. Now I'm 23 and have racked up 8,000 hours. I spend my time helping people learn the mechanics I only dreamed of back then. This is an awesome video, Wayton. Glad to see a video about the Greatest Rocket league player of all time. Cheers!
I'd hardly call it a "fall." Krenovi was early to the top when the skill cap was much lower and stayed competitive for a number of seasons. As others caught up he shined less but clearly is capable of top level play
My friends from freshmen year in high school and the discovery of Kro on YT kickstarted my love for Rocket League. It's been a lot of fun and I'm now at the point where I'm competing for my college. Not in huge tournaments or nothing but I am able to enjoy the casual fun with my friends, and experience that which I enjoyed watching as a kid 6 years ago. All I can really say is thank you to all the OG pros and community!
I remember getting up in the morning and booting up my PS3 to play SARPBC with my brother. Even if the mechanics were scuffed, it was an incredible experience to play both games. My brother was the one who told me about Kronovi and how he wanted to be just like him. I'm getting an overload of nostalgia from this video!
Ik this is a year later but it was criminal to not include his e league win with g2, e league was near enough considered the same level as worlds and is without a doubt the biggest non rlcs lan till this day
I think this video is great in many ways, especially the pacing and editing. I do have some narrative issues, though, mainly that I think Kronovi's relative skill even in the early days seems overblown. No mention at all of Kuxir from those pre-RLCS days. I think it is disingenuous to say Kro was by far best player in the world back the; certainly in NA, but not the world. Also, no mention of Lachinio or Gambit when talking about league play of S1, though this is a minor grievance. Kro is certainly deserving of a video chronicling his career, but I think to say he was the best in the world for any period of time beyond the weekend of S1 Worlds is unfair to pretty much the whole EU scene pre RLCS. And I say all this as an NA resident. In any case, thank you for making this video and helping us relive some old memories. I hope that going forward you might take a more balanced approach when doing historical pieces so that context can be properly laid for those that may not have been around to experience these events as they unfolded.
So because he won against the other teams multiple times, it's unfair to say he was better than those teams??? Mechanics aren't the only factor lol, he was the best player in the world at the time and thats about it, you can't argue he won fucking worlds but he was only better during worlds and the other game ibp beat flipside in, but other than that not as good, literally straight bias lmao
I do and will always enjoy watching and support Kronovi. He’s had a tough time, he still has lots he needs to work on as a player. He’s tainted by success and failure in a unique way. I hope he will rise up again. I think he could if only he put in the time.
1:45 I loved that game. Me and my pals used to play it a ton over at a friend that had his own place while the rest of us lived at home still. Damn those was some good days.
Great video. I started in the PS4 beta in 2015. As a lot of people can probably relate to, I loved Rocket League almost immediately when I started, but it's so funny to go back and look at 2015 replays that I thought were good. Kro was the first dude I saw that made me grind the game and realize that it was a special esport. The mountain will always be the shit to me. A great video to check out on youtube is Summit1G reacting to a video of kronovi when he first started and just being in disbelief at what this dude was doing. We were flipping around on the ground and whiffing while Kro was fast aerialing and hitting double taps and upside down flicks and shit. He's still a beast, too. This game evolves quicker than almost any other esport Ive seen, so Jstn and Retals and wondamike and even prodigies like Aqua make it look easy these days, but Kro made it look impossible from day 1.
These videos take an incredibly long time to make. A sub to the channel would be very much appreciated. Thanks for watching guys :)
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@@ifty873 who cares ^^
@@jxnsly7779 ooh sorry
He was the first person to master the basics. Then everyone else caught up and surpassed him
I'm better than him now lol
@@Leo-mh5mf shut kid
@@Leo-mh5mf oh really?
the "i am the mountain that people need to climb" quote really made me dislike him as a character. Soon after season one people climbed this so called mountain. And there were a lot of talented people, with better attitudes and were more entertaining to watch. Also i find it weird that this video is about "the best rocket league player ever" and people like GarettG, Kaydop, Scrub and Fairy peak are not even mentioned. Garett won every a title every year he attended except one where he placed 2nd place. The others i mentioned achieved much more on the highest level than Kronovi ever did. So in my honest opinion Kronovi is not even close to being the best RL player of all time. Even in season 2 there were some far greater than him
I wouldn't say everyone, he's still a pro and he's still nutty
He walked so we could run, and by “we” I mean the current pros, because I’m barely crawling
Yeah, Kro would still beat the shit out of me lol
@@helikaon5 season 1 him too not even now lol.
@@RemoG0915 nah most gcs destroy season 1 kro
@@that1panther105 looking at the gameplay from the that time im sure it wouldnt be a big struggle.. altough perhaps what they lack in mechanics they had in gamesense.
@@N_u_r_d they didnt have much gamesense at the time either since the game was so new im not discrediting them at all but a random 3s lobby for gc in ranked today would win worlds in season 1 and thats a good thing since it really shows the progression of this game over time.
To thoes who say he played like a plat, this guy literally made a required mechanic and didnt name it the kronovi arial
Is there any mechanic actually for him though just as a side note? Only one I can think of is when players say "I'm Kronovi-ing" when they are on the opponents back wall awaiting a pass from tm8 to shoot off the wall.
@@mugiwara-no-luffy I haven't heard of that either. Al0t was the back wall redirect guy. What Kro did do though is come out of his opponents goal and redirect it back in. Could be what they mean!
IMO if he never thought of the mechanic, someone else would have. Like, someone else 100% would have came up with it without him.
It's only a matter of time before someone else would have, it's like entropy.
@@ReaperOnRepo Im not a native english speaker and ive never heard the term entropy used like that before, Is there a definition im missing?
@@rbdel the hype surrounding rocket league’s popularity/growth = energy. the entropy of that energy will always make optimal techniques. Law of infinity might be more accurate, but English is always bending words.
Kronovi will deep down always be my favorite pro... Its fitting that he won the first ever championship, and no one can ever take that away.
Mine will always be Lachinio for whatever reason
@@niismo. They both hold the same title very cool
Who was carried by Overzer0. Who single handedly made kronovi a big name. Imagine if Overz didnt play and kro lost, he wouldnt be as big as he was...
@@niismo.i always loved lachinio’s fast play style and i still idolize his play style to this day. He will forever be one of my fav pros next to deevo and mijo.
he is my cousin
I find it funny how everyone's so quick to talk shit about Kronovi, but I can guarantee you that he's still a better player than 90% of his naysayers.
More like 99.99%
he's better than 99% i'd say. there's still probably only 100-150 players better than Kronovi in the world
What's his current rank?
He’s ssl
@chad420 exactly.
This brings back memories, the legend, never to be forgotten
Fr man
not to bring pressure to him or his surroundings, he's coming back soon, maybe not as the best.. but certainly as a better person and probably as a better player for a team.
Ikr
Ok
@@fella4739 great we don’t care
watching this gave me the chills, it feels like everything happened yesterday but it's actually been 6 years... kinda crazy to think about
Also mind blowing how the level of play improved
It’s wild how fast things go by. :/
Life is yet a blink of an eye my friend
8 years now 😭
the opposite feeling for me. It feels like all those iconic first 6 seasons were so long ago but it's only been a few years. I left this game for 2 years and coming back now I barely recognise anyone and my boy forky finally made it to pro
He started a path, but we finished the path. What a legend.
It’s easier to travel on a paved road than to create one yourself
RL isnt even close to done evolving yet.
@@SweatCookienese exactly
@@OwnedEpicStyle Very true
New rocket league pros are a joke
I mean they just take whats been already made from zero
They dont learn by themselves they steal ideas just like everybody these days i have yet to see a pro swift the game completely like kro did
Dude is basically the founding father of Rocket League, mad respect
Perfect title
Would be a cool title
He was the original pioneer. Players now might be advancing at an incredible speed, but they’re just walking down the path that Kronovi helped pave. An absolute legend.
The graph of his "rise and fall" looks like a mountain. In a sense, he was the mountain the next generation of professionals climbed to surpass and see greater heights.
Yeah that’s the point.
Yeah, that's the point. It's a reference to "Mount Kronovi".
@@fella4739 you are the problem with TH-cam
His nickname was "the mountain"
@@michaelclarke1716 because of his nose.
is it me or, wayton is the best editor out there for his own videos, he is truly a rocket league editing mastermind, the color of the text, the blur on the background, the sick music, he know how everything goes and when everything goes, love ur vids :)
I could not agree more.
There is a reason veritasiam does his own editing
Sunless
Alot others but but wayton is on of the better to represent some things
Idk why he’s racing for alpha boost, he already deserves like 1 million subs, and people like striped, thanovic, cbell and others do as well!
(like helical, spookluke and MANY others)
7:14 probably the most iconic handshake sequence of all time
Lmaooo
🤣🤣🤣🤣
So awkward. But they were killing it.
That was hard to rewatch
Bro, there fingers were confused what to do after holding controllers for so long 😂
8:50
“Unfortunately for Kronovi this would be the biggest accomplishment of his career”
If being a world champion is an unfortunate peak than those are some high expectations
And it's not that this was his only success, he also won Eleague!
Well if he won any worlds after it would be bigger. Since this is the first ever worlds in an esport which is still developing.
This is like any other sport. Kronovi was a pioneer who laid the groundwork for the next generation. No pitcher from the early 1900s could make it in the MLB today, and Esports have even more volatile growth than more conventional sports, so it makes sense that he couldn’t stay on top forever. However, he will always be one of the greats
very very very very well made video wayton. good job
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Oh man this takes me back. When all the current pros just had their “esl monthly” titles and you know you were gonna lose when you matched against one of them.
I think I once saw an "ESL Monthly Elite" tilte on one of my opponents in casual when I first played the game. I had no idea what it even meant lol.
I have that tag but when im sucking i dont put it on because i get roasted from my opponents lol
@@thedavidmcgrath1990 mega flex lol
@@thedavidmcgrath1990 it means you are an og high level player, wear it proud and fuck em
I lost to one of those for the first time, it was timbathy of lucky bounce and I was so happy to get smoked lmao
Who already guessed that it was Kronovi even before clicking on the video
Me
Me
Everyone
Everyone including yo mom
I felt it should have been kuxir.
I can't believe i'm just finding this video. I used to watch private scrims with Kro and iBP and listen to their coms in their private discord and seeing all these old clips and car designs is really bringing me back. I was never super close personal friends with any of them, however Kronovi and iBP gave me one of the most unique experiences i've ever had in my life. I was able to witness the beginning of rocket league's skill ceiling long ago, and it's incredible how far the game has come. This game would be nothing without Kronovi's investments and it makes me so happy to see videos like this. Great job.
5:22 omg i remember when this was literally the most insane thing u can do in RL. damn i clicked at this video not expecting it to be so nostalgic.
10:01 Denial Lethamyr. Oh how I would love to see Leth compete again.
he's making a content run with Rizzo
I really wanna see him in a pro level 2s tournament with Arsenal they play so well together
A lot of people overlook Leth for the GOAT. He's stayed relevant for a VERY long time and pros today still have to sweat when they play against him. His mechanics aren't even close to the best, but game sense, decision making, and basic skills, he's cream of the crop. And he's a phenomenal teacher!
absolutely the single best player in the game in my opinion, no matter how much he denied it his game sense alone is enough to win worlds.
@@AMMARvx I wouldn't say that at all honestly alot of older pros are on his level now just the combo in play styles is hilarious and really effective
This is the type of high-quality content I love, and it used to be the reason I WAS subscribed to Sunless. You can easily tell how Wayton takes an idea for a video, he researches, dissects, structures, comes up with a planned script and then edits it to make it all fall into place, probably passing through multiple iterations until this awesome final product comes to fruition.
Outstanding job!
Totally agree, it's why I first subbed to Sunless. He doesn't really do content like that anymore. I think Wayton has a passion for film making and you really see it come out in these videos. There was an empty space for these documentary type RL videos and Wayton is delivering exceptionally well. If we can get a video once a month like this, that'd be hype.
exactly this, khan used to be my favorite rl youtuber but now his videos are so uninteresting and repetitive, compared to wayton who id describe as sunless in his prime and then twice as good
I'm gonna dedicate my next RL documentary to you three fucks. Look for your name in the credits
@@mashedinc.3037 it definitely isn't repetitive
@@SunlessKhan own them sunless
"Upon it's release, only six years ago..."
That one hit hard man
Hearing Kronovi falling apart in the competitive community broke my heart 💔
This honestly had me tearing up at the end... Kro, you're still the mountain, never forget that.
I doubt many people remember that first RLCS but I sure do. Hollywood Principle performed live and it was so awkward but so cool. I remember that OverZero air dribble and going NUTS
Yeah it was sick. i remember being for iBP at that time and kronovii was my favorite player back than. it's thanks to those old players that i still play the game till this day. except that it took me until season 14 to reach GC lmao
@@sezuma4 been playing since it came out and I’ve never made it to GC. I’ve made it to C3 once or twice but I usually stay between C1 and C2
That performance was so out of place I still laugh about it today, as someone who never followed sports super closely, I can still remember the hype I felt when overzero put that goal in as a ibp "fan" lol
Let’s go wayton, nice content
This is kind of wrong, because in RLCS 1, Kronovi's team was actually considered to be an underdog. At this point Kuxir's Team Flipsid3 Tactics was considered to be the best team in the world, and Kuxir the best player.
The video is really good, but it feels like it's overly portraying Kronovi as the undisputed best, when him and Kuxir were always very much equals. You can make an argument for Kronovi being the best, but not while leaving Kux out of the picture like this.
Yep, people even thought lucky bounce was better and that switching Gambit to Over Zero probably really helped iBP rather than it being a disadvantage because they were not looking good in qualifier 2 probably from coms
Underdog because of his teammates. Everyone agrees kro was leagues ahead and was the carry/backbone for that team doing well. Kux had stellar teammates beside him (even though, yes, he was considered the best on his team). Best two in the world for sure, but kro basically super supported eeeeeeverything his teammates did and was always in the right place at the right time. His game sense was absolutely off the charts. :)) No hate, just love for your opinion though. Have a great day my man! ^-^
NA bias ?
@@ethanheadrick7027 Oh for sure, Kronovi was by far the best in the team. I'm just trying to promote some more detailed journalism instead of this whole "As expected, they were dominating the event" narrative. You have a great day too!
@@kerseykerman7307 gotcha gotcha :)) cheers.
To Kronovi's defence, no other esport is as unforgiving as this one. Top pro players last no more than two or three seasons in this game. It's much different compared to many other esports were there's 27-28 yo players still dominating after years of them playing.
Which is what makes Squishy the GOAT for me, nobody else has been that relevant. I think the skill ceiling always raises in every game. The absolutely best e-sports players in their genre, Faker, Viper and Flash/Jaedong etc would at their peak lose in direct comparison to the best current players, but that doesn't damper their absolute dominating rule of their time.
@@LasseLundster Then Kronovi would be the strongest Rocket League player to have ever existed. As the video said, at the start of Rocket League as an esport Kronovi could solo carry teams to victories in major competitions. No other RL player has achieved that ever since. Still, Squishy is definetly one of the most dominant RL players as he managed to win the world championship twice.
@@davidebic I agree, but including overall span of competetive career and the state of competition as factors beyond only level of reign, as Kronovi was a battle car pro at release in a young scene. I think a strong case can be made for both as overall bonjwa, and it's just my personal opinion that overall factors outweigh peak skill level gap from you to the scene, especially considering the above, weighs slightly less. But I wouldn't be surprised if Kronovi was declared the GOAT, either, and support either opinion.
@@LasseLundster well a title such as the GOAT are way too subjective. The only relevant fact is who's dominating at a certain point in time and oh boi ZEN is looking amazing rn. He's a strong candidate to joining the zenith of RL players.
@@davidebic
He only won the world championship once though ?
If i think about that i played him back in the first seasons and he teached me basics is such a great memory. Just the fact how the community was back in the first season is unbelievable. Such a massive an positive impact back than
Kronovi in 2015-16 would still kick my Plat ass on 2021-22 any day.
Lol your not the only one
I hit diamond like a month ago and he would still 💩 on me soo hard I would go back to platt😂
@ridoraki I'm Diamond in doubles, and I can tell you I'd get absolutely destroyed by 2015 Kronovi.
No shit of course the best players back then were better than plats
Thanks for making my day wayton. Always waiting for Mondays to see a new vid.
Wayton this is an amazing video. Thank you for going into so much depth and making such enjoyable content. Look forward to more videos like this in the future!
Glad you enjoyed it!
No other reply?
Even though they never won a worlds, that kronovi rizzo and jknaps team was special 😢
I love how you state facts and then are humble and respectful to the person it’s about and put them on a kings chair. Good on you
Excellent excellent video. The way u present this including your edits, narration and timing truly are second to none. I found myself completely invested in this story as it progressed. Soo good Wayton my friend. Top notch as always.
P.S. I love the older content and how you let the game clips tell the story. I can’t get over how impressed I was by this video. Exceptional.
Waytons video ideas are amazing, and He editing is so Good that there isn’t a Word that decribe it
This brings back so many memories of the early days of Rocket League. He is one of the reasons I started playing this game a lot and have loved it ever since. . Kro is one of the 'pioneers' of RL
you should do this for each season of rlcs. I just started playing and watching so having this type of context when going back and watching makes it so much sweeter.
Could u imagine going back in time to season 1, with all the knowledge we have now. Hitting a flip reset on someone. Id delete that shit immediately.
Ohhh my. What an amazing idea for a video. I know this is going to be great already. Ty so much for making my Monday morning at work just a little better.
This man should been the content creator of the year for rocket league
Sorry, sunlesskhan still wins. This man is amazing, but I put him 2nd. I will admit sunlesskhan is going downhill, very slightly, since his retirement, but still going strong.
@@realtechhacks ok bro np
@@atharvtyagi3435 I respect your opinion, after all, wayton pilkin is also great.
@@realtechhacks yep, so sad he had to stop making videos. Apparently making new interesting content for rocket league is super difficult. Hoping he making a comeback video in a few years or so.
Using this line chart to represent a mountain was pretty clever, nice one Wayton
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Its actually crazy go see the classic Kronovi footage which at the time blew my mind and now see everyday in diamond 1-3.
He was truly what got my into rocket league and I definitely learnt the game from his streams (I remember once talking to someone at work about RL and they were struggling to grasp a forward double jump and here we are watching this guy score crazy aerials 1 day after release ). I imagine he will be a face on RL esports on the panel for years to come.
This was absolutely brilliant! Think this is my favourite video of yours so far!
Wayton bro u killing the content again keep it up my guy 👍🏻👍🏻👊🏻👊🏻
No way! I forgot about this dude! I used to watch him all the time starting out in rocket league, dudes videos got me to where I am today (gc3). Much respect to this player!
Anyone else get nostalgic and almost teary eyed watching this?
Prolly just me, but the early days of RL were magical.
I got goosebumps from viewing kronovi and overzero's "air drag"s at the season 1
That was a pretty difficult skill, I remember that Paschy used to do it, then Squishy released a video (now deleted) saying that it was not Paschy's shot, but should be called squishy drag (something like that)
That goal from kronovi was unbelievable at the time
@@joaom.bezerra1915 I remember watching all these guys doing what now seems like simple gameplay, and wonder how tf they did any of it lol. Crazy how time flies.
I remember when i started playing rocket league it was my "chill" multiplayer game. I didn't really care about my performance and just found it fun and kinda hilarious. The trading was also a fun bonus. Now, i nitpick my mistakes to be better. In other words, ranked broke me. I also haven't traded since keys were a thing.
i will never be as excited (for rocket league) as i was when kro won worlds :')
I remember the og's pro player more than now
Nice cut my friend. I love yous video edition! You transform normal moments in EPIC moments.
This is a fantastic video man, very well done and entertaining.
I think recency bias has made everyone forget how truly dominant he was for the per-RLCS and even season 1 era. Even has a Kuxir and Flipsid3 fan back then I gotta give respect.
F3 was just as dominant in Europe.
Love the content. I began playing in like June or July 2015. Kronovi was definitely the undisputed king then. By July 2016, it was a battle between him, Marky, Kux, and Paaschy. You noted this well most of his rivals have long retired. A garden variety GC 1 is better than the best back then. That Mount Kronovi is relevant is pretty amazing.
I began around the same time. Yes Kronovi was the best back then, but for a long time I saw Kux as the best and I thought this video might be about him to be honest. Where Kronovi dit a lot in the beginning, Kux got to the top when the competition was a lot more on fire and watching him felt like watching a wizard with a lot of tricks up his sleeve and a reaction time that didn't seem possible.
Still, in terms of popularity and his early rise I understand he gave Kronovi the title.
This brings me back to when this legend ruled and I looked up to him
Kronovi discovered what I would say is the mathematical equivalent to multiplication or division, now a days the game has evolved into complicated calculus. The game has "changed" so much while none at all, I am amazed at the way the players have made so much progress over the years making new mechanics, in-game tactics, etc.
7:20 lmao the pain for the guy on the left
I am one of the 40 people that played SARPBC even though it was a love/hate relationship. Kronovi and lachinio were beasts. Amazing to see what the game turned into
Man i wonder how much people actually remember Krovovi for being one of the best player in RL back in those years.
I can defiently say i remember watching his YT videos when i was getting into RL myself back in like 2015/16.
Long live a legend of RL for his time.
Damn. It's really weird to think about how much the game has changed. I didn't follow rlcs and just heard rumors about kronovi and maybe watched him on twitch a couple times. Used to think he was godlike. 6 years later I hit GC and apparently kronovi was playing like a high diamond that whole time. Wild. Time truly changes almost everything.
I love how you made a graph-like mountain for the thumbnail to represent the rise and fall of Kronovi, which also resembles his profile picture on yt, with a crown on the top of the mountain, symbolizing the time when he was considered the best rl player.
Love your content man. Ngl the outro was due for a badass feels good outro song. Wouldve been soooooo dooope. Loved the video man! Keep up the hard work!
EXCELLENT premise and delivery of content in this video. I would have loved to hear from Kronovi about what he believes led to that decline. Was he not practicing enough? Were there challenging life circumstances at that point in his life? Was he just simply being outplayed for no reason at all? I think a short interview with him would have been very enlightening for all of us (an interview I'm assuming you tried to obtain). After seeing this video he may be more motivated to give his side of the story and what he believes led to his fall from the top. I would love to hear from him concerning this particular topic.
It's not even bad that he got surpassed, he pretty much pioneered the advanced techniques in the game, and it's only gone up from there. That's just the way of things, everything and everyone gets to learn things earlier and improve on them, that's how everything progresses and evolves.
Watching Kronovi hit a wall shot in 2015 convinced me to buy this game.
Great video, definitely sending this to friends who just started because this is definitely the lore of the game.
your editing and presentation is professional bro keep up the good work
i remember back in the original season 3 back in 2016 when I started playing, everybody liked G2 the most and Kronovi was the undisputed goat, sad to see him fall off
Kronovi truly was a master of his time. Fun fact I'm in this video at 8:35 my gf and I went to RLCS1, you can see us in the crowd on the bottom right.
Lmao marry her fr
AYEEE
Are yall still together??
He seems amazing at nurturing young talent. First Ayyjayy, then Firstkiller. Wouldn’t be surprised if Wondamike rises to match those two now
Yeah even Turinturo at some point.
Thanks for bring and keep this story alive
Great video. I knew a good portion of the story already but you were good enough in your delivery and style that you still captured my focus. Can tell a lot of work went into this. Well done.
Did you know that scrub "flamed" you during his recent 1v2 series...
Love both of you though as content creators
He went demon time in that vid
@@Kyrie-e8z what vid?
@@andrepires3475 the Brazil vid
idk why he did that lol. never talked with the guy before so kinda weird he'd just say that
what’s the name of the video
Watching his play in the early days is what inspired me to learn wall to air dribbles which is still my favorite thing to to in rocket league 👍 everybody else was on the ground and he went over them all from the wall it was incredible to see so early.
So how did you learn it? I'm like 700 hours in (Plat 1, so couldn't be more average ;) ), tried to train it and watched tutorials, but kept getting frustrated and never mastered it. Is there any special trick or something about how I can learn and practice it?
@@bruellbart2380 definitely free play. Just spend time chilling in free play listening to music, watching a show in the background, but spend time in free play. I also suggest trying to find players higher level than you to play with. You’ll improve so much by running constantly with people better than you.
Even the title of this vid just speaks “Kronovi”. A legend never to be forgotten..
Reading the comments, I see so many describe how good your edits are. For me, I didn't even notice the edits..... thus I think I can confidently say, your edits were perfection, as that should ultimately be the goal. Great trip down memory lane and I think a well deserved homage to the OG GOAT.
this brings back loads of memories, great vid
Just had to revisit this video after the recent news, what a damn legend.
This was really well done. Great documentary!!
This kinda reminds me of Einstein in a way. If we take an average physicist and compare it to Einstein, the average physicist would have way more knowledge and skill than Einstein. But Einstein is truly amazing for his ability to come up with complex and phenomenal theories with little technology.
Good analogy!
Doesnt make Sense, Einstein would improve and was ahead of time, only technology prevented him, this guy got stagnent
@@hesaidchest well it’s not just about technology. We physicists learn many of the ideas Einstein had to put a lot of thought into at such an early time. The concepts that physicists at that time would struggle with is what modern physicists learn during uni or even high school. These concepts becomes our second nature, but for Einstein it would probably take more effort.
@@yess.6558 he literally created some of those concepts and you saying he would strugggle with them,sure buddy
@@hesaidchest well he did make a massive mistake when using one of his own theories, a couple of times in fact. But besides that, it would still make sense. People are able to do so much more because the theories Einstein made up is built up in their foundational knowledge.
Wayton is obviously by far the best editor I’ve seen in any rocket league video
Without him and his dedication to Rocket league i cant imagine. 99% of the Rocket league Playerbase is still using what he and other legends invented. All the Basics we still use today aeriels, Rotations everything we think of as normal is thanks to this guy. He is truely the reasson how we play Rocket league today.
This video is incredible and I’m glad he’s getting recognition for the bar he set early on. I just recently started getting back into RL and I was wondering why I haven’t heard his name mentioned in any RL content. I’ve been seeing Zen’s name everywhere and I’m wondering if he will be the next “Kronovi” in that he will be the undisputed best player in the world for a while.
I've played this game since July 7th, 2015. I remember watching kronovi score these crazy goals and wanting to be able to do it so bad. I practiced every single day after school. Now I'm 23 and have racked up 8,000 hours. I spend my time helping people learn the mechanics I only dreamed of back then. This is an awesome video, Wayton. Glad to see a video about the Greatest Rocket league player of all time. Cheers!
trash
rank?
I'd hardly call it a "fall." Krenovi was early to the top when the skill cap was much lower and stayed competitive for a number of seasons. As others caught up he shined less but clearly is capable of top level play
My friends from freshmen year in high school and the discovery of Kro on YT kickstarted my love for Rocket League. It's been a lot of fun and I'm now at the point where I'm competing for my college. Not in huge tournaments or nothing but I am able to enjoy the casual fun with my friends, and experience that which I enjoyed watching as a kid 6 years ago. All I can really say is thank you to all the OG pros and community!
I have not heard this name is years, Thank you for talking about him again
he is also the funniest, youngest and the most energetic, me being 14, admire him, and he inspires me
Nah, the funniest is Turbo
Nah the funniest is arsenal
Nah the funniest is the clowns responding to a 14 y/o telling him why he's wrong for thinking Kronovi is funny.
@YOSIF MOHSEN ehhh seems like u need a talk buddy
@@xynex. nope he doesnt, he is absolutely correct
“...the game didn’t really gain much traction”
Me knowing it’s one of the most downloaded PS3 games of all time
I remember getting up in the morning and booting up my PS3 to play SARPBC with my brother. Even if the mechanics were scuffed, it was an incredible experience to play both games. My brother was the one who told me about Kronovi and how he wanted to be just like him. I'm getting an overload of nostalgia from this video!
Ik this is a year later but it was criminal to not include his e league win with g2, e league was near enough considered the same level as worlds and is without a doubt the biggest non rlcs lan till this day
Watching this in 2023, didn’t age too well. One word, Zen.
I think this video is great in many ways, especially the pacing and editing. I do have some narrative issues, though, mainly that I think Kronovi's relative skill even in the early days seems overblown. No mention at all of Kuxir from those pre-RLCS days. I think it is disingenuous to say Kro was by far best player in the world back the; certainly in NA, but not the world. Also, no mention of Lachinio or Gambit when talking about league play of S1, though this is a minor grievance. Kro is certainly deserving of a video chronicling his career, but I think to say he was the best in the world for any period of time beyond the weekend of S1 Worlds is unfair to pretty much the whole EU scene pre RLCS. And I say all this as an NA resident. In any case, thank you for making this video and helping us relive some old memories. I hope that going forward you might take a more balanced approach when doing historical pieces so that context can be properly laid for those that may not have been around to experience these events as they unfolded.
This bothered me too
So because he won against the other teams multiple times, it's unfair to say he was better than those teams??? Mechanics aren't the only factor lol, he was the best player in the world at the time and thats about it, you can't argue he won fucking worlds but he was only better during worlds and the other game ibp beat flipside in, but other than that not as good, literally straight bias lmao
Wayton: “We have these people to thank for how competitive Rocket League has become.” Me: Gee, thanks -_-
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I do and will always enjoy watching and support Kronovi. He’s had a tough time, he still has lots he needs to work on as a player. He’s tainted by success and failure in a unique way. I hope he will rise up again. I think he could if only he put in the time.
1:45 I loved that game. Me and my pals used to play it a ton over at a friend that had his own place while the rest of us lived at home still. Damn those was some good days.
Great Video, a real joy to watch. Thank you
track at 0:01?
True OGs remember the MLG games. Also Yemen ragequitting Gfinity, that was funny as hell
Yemen OMEGALOL
I remember Scrub had Yemen's ragequit voice as sub alert LUL
MingLee
Great video. I started in the PS4 beta in 2015. As a lot of people can probably relate to, I loved Rocket League almost immediately when I started, but it's so funny to go back and look at 2015 replays that I thought were good. Kro was the first dude I saw that made me grind the game and realize that it was a special esport. The mountain will always be the shit to me. A great video to check out on youtube is Summit1G reacting to a video of kronovi when he first started and just being in disbelief at what this dude was doing. We were flipping around on the ground and whiffing while Kro was fast aerialing and hitting double taps and upside down flicks and shit. He's still a beast, too. This game evolves quicker than almost any other esport Ive seen, so Jstn and Retals and wondamike and even prodigies like Aqua make it look easy these days, but Kro made it look impossible from day 1.
Dude - killer video - so well researched and edited. Really well done!