the corner collect is actually a strategy that a lot of people use in mid-range MENA lobbies, and sometimes finds its way to top 1v1 games (usually Joreuz is the one guilty of that). it is a decent alternative but not that competitive as you get put under high pressure right off the bat.
i have always seen it referred to as "the friendship" kickoff. they do it amazingly well in the ranked hoops twitch channel with the high level matches.
I've been using the corner collect for a couple years now and I've found that just a back flip instead of a half flip is just as useful and simpler, especially for lower ranked half flips, usually leaves you dead in line for a lot of the 'collects' with full boost 👌
Small channel here but my best short had to do with kickoffs the other day and I talked about how I think kickoffs need a lot more experimenting and seeing teams have a couple different types to keep teams on their feet. I talked about this in the comments of the short. Anyways great video as usual Wayton I aspire to reach your video quality one day.
The side cheat #8 is viable in lower ranks. In gold/plat, kickoffs are less predictable, so having the second teammate nearby helps corral the possession. But if you cheat too far, it can be disastrous, like any cheat. It's also easy to follow the minipads to larger boost pads.
I started using the backflip kick off in 1s Mainly cuz it cuts down ALOT on kickoff goals but sometimes you do have to change it back to regular kick off to keep them on their toes
I made my own kickoff(a little like the 1st one)it works in 2s and 3s, and only in the lower rank, and you need to know how to speed flip, and has to be both diagonal kickoff, the one on the right goes and speed kickoffs, while the one in the left goes for left boost and my team gets the ball for free :)
No because the ball doesnt pop up, so the time lost for cutting infront of your teammate for the bump will be negated by the opponent’s speed flip. You cant speed flip to the aerial touch in hoops.
It works but its super hard to aim it well. My friend does that to me all the time when he starts beside me while i flip infront of him, but im definitely way faster to the ball than my opponents.. it just never actually gets us anywhere because i rarely hit the ball after getting booted lol... Now for someone whos actually higher ranked, im pretty sure it would work with a bit of practise.
Me and my friend invented what we call the “dart redirect” where when you are the player closest to the ball (generally far right or left) you go for mid boost first instead of the ball. Then your teammate boots the ball as far up the feild as possible and you are able to take possession and score
I've actually been doing that side cheat in 2s for a while. It definitely isn't a game changer, but it is another option that makes you harder to predict. Nice video :)
I feel like some of these have their best use after you’ve done some normal kickoffs and you hit them with the element of surprise. I also feel like these may not work that well in end of game “hail mary” situations because opponents know to expect tricky stuff in desperate situations
I have opera gx many months ago and thanks to this I just found out about this feature to watch your favorite streamers on twitch integrated with the browser, great video.
While seeing someone new in the scene like aZapatos and his insane wave dash kickoffs, I’ve been wondering if squishy’s old front flip cancel kickoff would work well against him, since his kickoff typically allows him to get the ball and instantly shoot on your net. With squishy’s kickoff after hitting the ball you’re already facing backwards and shadow defending
I've found a lot of success in high diamond and low champ (and below), with a strategy that I've never seen anyone else use, and when people notice it I get called crazy. I should specify, I do this in 2s. It works in 3s, but it's not as good, and sometimes you'll get doubled up on which is usually a hard-counter for it. You don't try and be fast. You assume your opponent is going to try and be fast. You watch what angle they try and take, and you counter it. Generally, you'll want to be somewhat on the same side of the ball as them when they hit it, and try and hit the ball in the same left-right direction as they do. You flip when your opponent hits the ball. The flip isn't for power on the hit, it's to get fully in the way, and to get you moving faster toward that boost pad. You're not trying to win the kickoff, you're trying to make a good setup for your teammate, by "tying" the kickoff. The most important thing, though, is the way you position yourself relative to your initial momentum. You pretty much want to be sideways, sometimes, almost straight up backwards. You power slide so that your ass end slides toward the ball from the inside, and your nose begins to face the side wall. If you do it right, and/or get lucky, you'll hit the ball just after they do, with very little separation between where you hit it and midfield, maybe 1/2-1 car length. The moment the ball hits you is when you flip, and it will be in the direction of the nearest sidewall. The ball will squirt out to the side, usually pretty much straight sideways, and up, but not quite to the ceiling. This will vary some. When you slightly "miss" the timing of the 50/50, your car will get thrown off to the opposite side, also pretty much straight toward the side wall. If you timed the flip right, this will combine with that momentum and you'll be going faster than you might expect toward the boost. Your teammate should get a back corner boost, and then advance up the side the ball is on, which should be the side they're already on, assuming success. If you don't succeed, they will have time to get over for a save. If you do succeed, one of two things will happen. 1. Your opponent's non-kickoff player will do basically the same thing, and a 50/50 will appear near the wall. Since you, the kickoff player, have a boost advantage, you should be able to scoop up possession of that and start making a play. 2. They'll do something else, and you'll beat them to the ball. You, the non-kickoff player, have a boost advantage, so ideally you'll be in a good spot to make a play on a pass, advancing up and inward from the opposite sidewall. The main strategy here, is to "tie" the kickoff, so as to get your team an advantage in another aspect, and try and take kickoff luck out of the equation as much as possible. Secondarily, because you'll be doing something bizarre, and it won't be immediately obvious what it is that you're doing unless they're paying very close attention, you'll likely be able to pinpoint the moment they figure out what it is you're doing, and this gives you the advantage of being able to read their counter, and counter it. The counter to this kickoff, is to do everything basically the same, except get to the ball about 1/4 of a second faster, and mirror your approach. So, nose in toward the center, but flip in your butt's direction. This'll kill your momentum, leaving you approximately in the middle. Bad for the boost, but if they're mimicking your moves, it'll most often send the ball into their opposite corner. If they double team on the kickoff, you arrive slower, put yourself smack dab in the middle parallel to the sidewalls, and backflip as soon as the ball hits you. The ball will rocket to the ceiling basically straight up, you'll get demolished, but your teammate will have an easy long shot on an open goal unless you get unlucky. I can't say if this would work in higher ranks, because, I'm not there, and I've never tested it there. I know it works as low as high gold, which is where I was when I started doing this several years ago. This strategy really only works because it makes it a lot easier to mind-game, and because people just don't have much if any practice dealing with it. If you fuck it up, it ends up looking like just a crummy kickoff, and you're at a slight disadvantage. if you REALLY, fuck it up, it's a goal against, but you have to just miss the ball for that. Still, a possibility, at least for me. X^[
you can do the bump kickoff in normal games too, you just need to spawn in the back 2 side by side spawn position, the execution is pretty similar, and it is slightly faster than a speed flip, but much harder
A great kickoff strategy in two's where both people are almost front on to the ball, the goal is behind them and the two cars are closely beside each other, left bumps right car forwards and right car reaches ball super fast
Backflip kick off is more of a preflip backflip musty hit, It's all about walling the player with perfect timing. The top of your car pointing down hits after a full rotation and on your second flip. I use it all the time effectively
I've had one for years that exploits "left goes" for early possession. Set Up: Double corner kick off (either 2s or 3s) The Play: Right goes, while left slowly cheats to the left mid boost Result: Ball pinches out to your team mate with 100 boost for an early solo play
Great idea, concept and execution! Yet i'm not fully satisfied as they say... I've been practicing with alternative kickoffs for a while now, and there's so many options. I immediately wondered why top players aren't using such techniques or strategies. Trying out all sorts of mechanics, i found out that you can get a ball ANYwhere you want with a high succes rate (%). (9:20 Getting the ball in the right spot..) There are a few basic variants, as the backflip kickoff, the slide handbrake kickoff and the delay kickoff. The backflip kickoff can be executed in various ways. One can use the bottom/wheels to block the kickoff and slow down the ball, yet also when totally finishing a backflip so the nose of the car will hit the ball, and not the wheels, but in that occasion, one would have to slow down a bit more when approaching the kickoff, to avoid being early. The slide kickoff can be VERY offensive and successful if all players are aware. The tip of the car can be used to pinch it to the opposite side, while the body can direct it to any direction depending on the direction of the car (slope of the hitbox on top). So one uses the angle of the slope of the hitbox to pinch the ball in the kickoff. Staring contact with the highest part (rear), and finishing contact with the ball with the lowest part of the hitbox (front). The delay kickoff, of which both previously mentioned cases can be included, for me, is the new "meta", as it destroys any speedflip momentarily (this goes for most levels) and it gives the player a leverage over any other kickoff taking opponent as they have the decision of where the ball will end up, how fast and how high or low, which on its own gives the opportunity to predict and warn the team member where they need to be. Some players were using similar strategies, but they waited in their spot to then go later, which is too risky to be late, when boosting into kickoff and braking right in front of the ball, THEN doing the flip AND double flip into the ball (any rotation or not) is much more effective AND safe. One will be amazed by the time you have to decide where you want to place the ball when waiting after that brake in front of the ball... (always see what the opponent is going to do, where they are in which moment and when they're going to reach the ball) It's so effective that i wonder if it would work on top levels, and why they haven't tried yet...
when you have both players on corner in a kickoff you can have the player on the right do a speed flip and it's possible to beat the other team to the ball and pass it directly to left mid where your teammate can follow it up. I've been using this since i learned how to speed flip 2k hours ago and it still works quite a lot
The side cheat is what I do as a plat 2 haha. Didn't realize that it wasn't the normal cheat even. It helps me get boost, which if the ball stops in the middle helps me beat the other guy on the other side who is cheating up.
One of my friends and me accidentally did the buddy kickoff in a normal 2v2 match once, and we couldn't stop laughing cuz everyone including us were like "WTF HAPPENED?" (We actually scored)
the thumbnail made me predict that one of the kick of strategies might have been 2v2 with both players at the goal, wait for them to hit it at your goal, and then loop around each side of the ball path and pinch it midway with your teamate back towards their goal. an incredibly risky and unlikely idea
The back flip has actually been pretty successful for me. I back flip a little later than he does though. I am also a lower rank though so it could just be the players
Me and my plat 2 friend do the late delay all the time and I never knew that it was not an actual thing… and just saying that once you master it that you can win 95% of the time
Tbh I rate all of them, you could definitely use 2-3 of those in one game and it works to your advantage. Especially because its something else the opposition team has to think about besides the vanilla strategies
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5:00 that's literally half the kickoffs i get in champ 2, an idiot going for boost without a warning and you having to move forward a bit, but usually what happens is the ball goes above you
Can you buddy kickoff in comp 2v2 during the offset and parallel centerline kick off positions at all? Parallel spaces might be too close to be effective and offset spawns might be too far but I'm so curious to know if this works
I pretty consistently use the late kick-off when it's a straight. I take off with no boost for the first second or so and make sure I kick-off high. I win around 80%. It's unpredictable as to where the ball goes but sometimes it sets up. It rarely ever fails and when it does the ball goes to a corner where a team mate is already anyway
So the buddy kickoff for hoops works in regular too. Any formation where you start next to a buddy. My friend bumped me on kickoff and I was miffed until I realized he had catapulted me straight into the ball. Can't recreate it cause I'm trash, but boy it would be cool to see a good player actually nail this. Plz tag me if someone has a video of this working on command.
It’s kinda crazy that kickoffs just become the same after a certain rank cause in the low ranks people get creative and do all sorts of stuff for kickoff
Probably the most popular strategy, everyone kicks off, every time, no matter what. Then the 3rd man needs to spam, Defending..., as if they weren't the one that was supposed to.
I usually use the side cheat in my 3s games, and if the ball ends up on the opposite side then the cheater rotates back and the 3rd man rotates to challenge the ball while kickoff guy recovers. Sort of an "I go front right, you go back left," kind of thing. It works for now, as we are pushing into diamond
you should do like plays like in basketball whoever has the ball calls out the play like 2 the pick n roll and the 2nd man comes in a bumps the defender or make 5 pass play types
I may be the only one, but I think a kickoff should be counted as a success if it ends in an attack. the point of a kickoff isn't to immediately score, that rarely happens.
Depends on which speedflip occurs. A Musty speed flip is designed to cut the ball past the opponent. Aka the original intent is to beat the already slow opponent. Meaning a musty speed flip occurs later in the kickoff and the landing allows for the aggressive cut. A 1v1 speed flip’s goal is to force the ball through the opponent, this variant can be countered by a well executed delayed flip. Meaning a 1v1 speed flip occurs earlier in the kickoff and allows for landing behind the ball early enough to front flip again into the ball. A good high level player will 1v1 speed flip then slightly delay their second flip to essentially produce a fast “delayed” kickoff, making it EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to counter with a delayed flip. Some of the highest level players like appjack use a 1v1 speedflip into a wavedash that allows for a faster exit recovery from the kickoff.
If there is 1 kickoff I always use and found it more effectively it was the backflip kickoff because I been using that for the past 2 months and won more games improved my skill from some of your other videos and happily sitting at c3
You should have done the spanish kickoff Where the guy is closest to the ball during kickoffs fakes and goes for a bump/demo and than the opponent passes the ball to your teammate where he can shoot/pass/dribble And the mate taking the kickoff hopefully gets a demo and than the goal is free
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The hoops kickoff is actually called friendship and you should try that the closer player fakes it and goes to bump or demo the opponent that doesn't go for the ball and teammate is defending the net and i hope you understand what i mean
One advance tactic of backflip kikoff drive to the ball with a bit boost after the second boost pad make a jump 40 degrees backwards and flip backwards u will often win a free goal in 1s and nobody play like that without me if iam about to lose a game 😂
I just noticed there are custom training packs from Psyonix. But the way they want you to score is not always clear. I tried to search for the solutions on TH-cam but i couldn't find it. Maybe you got any idea? I mean, you made a few training packs, right? But there was the rule we need to collect the first boost pad and then we are allowed to steer. Maybe Psyonix had an intentional way to clear the shots? Or is it something like this: Try to hit the ball as early as possible with much power?
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A less risky version of the first kickoff, which I occasionally do use, is to just have your third teammate stay in net in case it goes poorly.
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When the 3rd man does this they always miss the save
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the corner collect is actually a strategy that a lot of people use in mid-range MENA lobbies, and sometimes finds its way to top 1v1 games (usually Joreuz is the one guilty of that). it is a decent alternative but not that competitive as you get put under high pressure right off the bat.
I use this strategy in c1 2s lobbies all the time. Pretty much every game. I’ve never had it back fire and result in a goal.
I just made GC in doubles and I use this on 60% of those kickoff set ups 😂
Sets up some insane dribble 1v1 plays immediately
i have always seen it referred to as "the friendship" kickoff. they do it amazingly well in the ranked hoops twitch channel with the high level matches.
The angle start version is friendship, the side by side start version is the fusion. The names came from the Dragon Ball universe.
I've been using the corner collect for a couple years now and I've found that just a back flip instead of a half flip is just as useful and simpler, especially for lower ranked half flips, usually leaves you dead in line for a lot of the 'collects' with full boost 👌
Small channel here but my best short had to do with kickoffs the other day and I talked about how I think kickoffs need a lot more experimenting and seeing teams have a couple different types to keep teams on their feet. I talked about this in the comments of the short. Anyways great video as usual Wayton I aspire to reach your video quality one day.
The side cheat #8 is viable in lower ranks. In gold/plat, kickoffs are less predictable, so having the second teammate nearby helps corral the possession. But if you cheat too far, it can be disastrous, like any cheat. It's also easy to follow the minipads to larger boost pads.
Thanks Wayton for featuring my kick-off, I wouldn’t know if it’d work!
the first with one staying in net and the second strat we do al lot actually...it works quite often in diamond if you can get to be consistent.
I don’t know what’s more consistent my teammates being good or waytons upload schedule
I started using the backflip kick off in 1s Mainly cuz it cuts down ALOT on kickoff goals but sometimes you do have to change it back to regular kick off to keep them on their toes
i love that ding noise thatt plays when someone scores. It so satisfying
I made my own kickoff(a little like the 1st one)it works in 2s and 3s, and only in the lower rank, and you need to know how to speed flip, and has to be both diagonal kickoff, the one on the right goes and speed kickoffs, while the one in the left goes for left boost and my team gets the ball for free :)
Couldn't the "Buddy Kickoff" actually work in 3s where the front two players are line up together?
No because the ball doesnt pop up, so the time lost for cutting infront of your teammate for the bump will be negated by the opponent’s speed flip. You cant speed flip to the aerial touch in hoops.
it does work people were doing it in the first 2 years, never got popular because its difficult to aim
It works but its super hard to aim it well. My friend does that to me all the time when he starts beside me while i flip infront of him, but im definitely way faster to the ball than my opponents.. it just never actually gets us anywhere because i rarely hit the ball after getting booted lol...
Now for someone whos actually higher ranked, im pretty sure it would work with a bit of practise.
Me and my friend invented what we call the “dart redirect” where when you are the player closest to the ball (generally far right or left) you go for mid boost first instead of the ball. Then your teammate boots the ball as far up the feild as possible and you are able to take possession and score
I've actually been doing that side cheat in 2s for a while. It definitely isn't a game changer, but it is another option that makes you harder to predict. Nice video :)
I feel like some of these have their best use after you’ve done some normal kickoffs and you hit them with the element of surprise. I also feel like these may not work that well in end of game “hail mary” situations because opponents know to expect tricky stuff in desperate situations
I have opera gx many months ago and thanks to this I just found out about this feature to watch your favorite streamers on twitch integrated with the browser, great video.
While seeing someone new in the scene like aZapatos and his insane wave dash kickoffs, I’ve been wondering if squishy’s old front flip cancel kickoff would work well against him, since his kickoff typically allows him to get the ball and instantly shoot on your net. With squishy’s kickoff after hitting the ball you’re already facing backwards and shadow defending
I've found a lot of success in high diamond and low champ (and below), with a strategy that I've never seen anyone else use, and when people notice it I get called crazy.
I should specify, I do this in 2s. It works in 3s, but it's not as good, and sometimes you'll get doubled up on which is usually a hard-counter for it.
You don't try and be fast. You assume your opponent is going to try and be fast. You watch what angle they try and take, and you counter it. Generally, you'll want to be somewhat on the same side of the ball as them when they hit it, and try and hit the ball in the same left-right direction as they do. You flip when your opponent hits the ball. The flip isn't for power on the hit, it's to get fully in the way, and to get you moving faster toward that boost pad. You're not trying to win the kickoff, you're trying to make a good setup for your teammate, by "tying" the kickoff.
The most important thing, though, is the way you position yourself relative to your initial momentum. You pretty much want to be sideways, sometimes, almost straight up backwards. You power slide so that your ass end slides toward the ball from the inside, and your nose begins to face the side wall. If you do it right, and/or get lucky, you'll hit the ball just after they do, with very little separation between where you hit it and midfield, maybe 1/2-1 car length. The moment the ball hits you is when you flip, and it will be in the direction of the nearest sidewall. The ball will squirt out to the side, usually pretty much straight sideways, and up, but not quite to the ceiling. This will vary some. When you slightly "miss" the timing of the 50/50, your car will get thrown off to the opposite side, also pretty much straight toward the side wall. If you timed the flip right, this will combine with that momentum and you'll be going faster than you might expect toward the boost.
Your teammate should get a back corner boost, and then advance up the side the ball is on, which should be the side they're already on, assuming success. If you don't succeed, they will have time to get over for a save. If you do succeed, one of two things will happen.
1. Your opponent's non-kickoff player will do basically the same thing, and a 50/50 will appear near the wall. Since you, the kickoff player, have a boost advantage, you should be able to scoop up possession of that and start making a play.
2. They'll do something else, and you'll beat them to the ball. You, the non-kickoff player, have a boost advantage, so ideally you'll be in a good spot to make a play on a pass, advancing up and inward from the opposite sidewall.
The main strategy here, is to "tie" the kickoff, so as to get your team an advantage in another aspect, and try and take kickoff luck out of the equation as much as possible.
Secondarily, because you'll be doing something bizarre, and it won't be immediately obvious what it is that you're doing unless they're paying very close attention, you'll likely be able to pinpoint the moment they figure out what it is you're doing, and this gives you the advantage of being able to read their counter, and counter it. The counter to this kickoff, is to do everything basically the same, except get to the ball about 1/4 of a second faster, and mirror your approach. So, nose in toward the center, but flip in your butt's direction. This'll kill your momentum, leaving you approximately in the middle. Bad for the boost, but if they're mimicking your moves, it'll most often send the ball into their opposite corner.
If they double team on the kickoff, you arrive slower, put yourself smack dab in the middle parallel to the sidewalls, and backflip as soon as the ball hits you. The ball will rocket to the ceiling basically straight up, you'll get demolished, but your teammate will have an easy long shot on an open goal unless you get unlucky.
I can't say if this would work in higher ranks, because, I'm not there, and I've never tested it there. I know it works as low as high gold, which is where I was when I started doing this several years ago. This strategy really only works because it makes it a lot easier to mind-game, and because people just don't have much if any practice dealing with it.
If you fuck it up, it ends up looking like just a crummy kickoff, and you're at a slight disadvantage. if you REALLY, fuck it up, it's a goal against, but you have to just miss the ball for that. Still, a possibility, at least for me. X^[
these goals legit had me smiling, Thank you
you can do the bump kickoff in normal games too, you just need to spawn in the back 2 side by side spawn position, the execution is pretty similar, and it is slightly faster than a speed flip, but much harder
A great kickoff strategy in two's where both people are almost front on to the ball, the goal is behind them and the two cars are closely beside each other, left bumps right car forwards and right car reaches ball super fast
Backflip kick off is more of a preflip backflip musty hit, It's all about walling the player with perfect timing. The top of your car pointing down hits after a full rotation and on your second flip. I use it all the time effectively
I've had one for years that exploits "left goes" for early possession.
Set Up: Double corner kick off (either 2s or 3s)
The Play: Right goes, while left slowly cheats to the left mid boost
Result: Ball pinches out to your team mate with 100 boost for an early solo play
Great idea, concept and execution! Yet i'm not fully satisfied as they say...
I've been practicing with alternative kickoffs for a while now, and there's so many options. I immediately wondered why top players aren't using such techniques or strategies.
Trying out all sorts of mechanics, i found out that you can get a ball ANYwhere you want with a high succes rate (%).
(9:20 Getting the ball in the right spot..)
There are a few basic variants, as the backflip kickoff, the slide handbrake kickoff and the delay kickoff.
The backflip kickoff can be executed in various ways. One can use the bottom/wheels to block the kickoff and slow down the ball, yet also when totally finishing a backflip so the nose of the car will hit the ball, and not the wheels, but in that occasion, one would have to slow down a bit more when approaching the kickoff, to avoid being early.
The slide kickoff can be VERY offensive and successful if all players are aware. The tip of the car can be used to pinch it to the opposite side, while the body can direct it to any direction depending on the direction of the car (slope of the hitbox on top).
So one uses the angle of the slope of the hitbox to pinch the ball in the kickoff. Staring contact with the highest part (rear), and finishing contact with the ball with the lowest part of the hitbox (front).
The delay kickoff, of which both previously mentioned cases can be included, for me, is the new "meta", as it destroys any speedflip momentarily (this goes for most levels) and it gives the player a leverage over any other kickoff taking opponent as they have the decision of where the ball will end up, how fast and how high or low, which on its own gives the opportunity to predict and warn the team member where they need to be.
Some players were using similar strategies, but they waited in their spot to then go later, which is too risky to be late, when boosting into kickoff and braking right in front of the ball, THEN doing the flip AND double flip into the ball (any rotation or not)
is much more effective AND safe.
One will be amazed by the time you have to decide where you want to place the ball when waiting after that brake in front of the ball... (always see what the opponent is going to do, where they are in which moment and when they're going to reach the ball)
It's so effective that i wonder if it would work on top levels, and why they haven't tried yet...
3:11 the trash talkers 😂
Wayton you be making the best rl content on youtube right now, keep it up bro
when you have both players on corner in a kickoff you can have the player on the right do a speed flip and it's possible to beat the other team to the ball and pass it directly to left mid where your teammate can follow it up. I've been using this since i learned how to speed flip 2k hours ago and it still works quite a lot
The side cheat is what I do as a plat 2 haha. Didn't realize that it wasn't the normal cheat even. It helps me get boost, which if the ball stops in the middle helps me beat the other guy on the other side who is cheating up.
I have seen the buddy kickoff before but if you can get it right it can be really good
It's so OP
One of my friends and me accidentally did the buddy kickoff in a normal 2v2 match once, and we couldn't stop laughing cuz everyone including us were like "WTF HAPPENED?" (We actually scored)
I’ve actually done “The Late Delay” on accident when I’m down too far to recover and just decided to goof off, in both 3s and 2s.
i love your vibe dude, keep making videos
the thumbnail made me predict that one of the kick of strategies might have been 2v2 with both players at the goal, wait for them to hit it at your goal, and then loop around each side of the ball path and pinch it midway with your teamate back towards their goal. an incredibly risky and unlikely idea
The back flip has actually been pretty successful for me. I back flip a little later than he does though. I am also a lower rank though so it could just be the players
That hoobs kick off is a 10/10 for me. If you manage to do it consistently, you will have a gigantic edge against other teams.
Unless the other team does it to-
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Me and my plat 2 friend do the late delay all the time and I never knew that it was not an actual thing… and just saying that once you master it that you can win 95% of the time
Tbh I rate all of them, you could definitely use 2-3 of those in one game and it works to your advantage. Especially because its something else the opposition team has to think about besides the vanilla strategies
Hey Wayton! What is your best tips to start a new youtube channel? btw i love your vids:3
1. Do it because you like it! It's supposed to be fun! The numbers and success is a side bonus.
2. Especially when you're starting, ALWAYS make your newest video better than your last. Figure out how you can top yourself. Do not stop innovating. The moment you settle with your current skillset and stop trying to become a better creator is the moment you stop caring. Never settle.
That last strat in hoops...banger goal bro...got my 👍
Last one is actually called the friendship
Wayton: ranks his favorite and most fun strategy a 9.
Normal kickoffs: I.AM.INEVITABLE (a 10)
I mostly play hoops, and I'd been wondering how to get a goal in under 8 seconds, but that strat did it for y'all! Love it.
5:00 that's literally half the kickoffs i get in champ 2, an idiot going for boost without a warning and you having to move forward a bit, but usually what happens is the ball goes above you
ive been doing that halfflip away strat since gold ngl
Can you buddy kickoff in comp 2v2 during the offset and parallel centerline kick off positions at all? Parallel spaces might be too close to be effective and offset spawns might be too far but I'm so curious to know if this works
my buds and i do a speed flip pinch if we both have diagnal in 3s!
Keep the great content coming broski
I pretty consistently use the late kick-off when it's a straight. I take off with no boost for the first second or so and make sure I kick-off high. I win around 80%. It's unpredictable as to where the ball goes but sometimes it sets up. It rarely ever fails and when it does the ball goes to a corner where a team mate is already anyway
So the buddy kickoff for hoops works in regular too. Any formation where you start next to a buddy. My friend bumped me on kickoff and I was miffed until I realized he had catapulted me straight into the ball. Can't recreate it cause I'm trash, but boy it would be cool to see a good player actually nail this. Plz tag me if someone has a video of this working on command.
It’s kinda crazy that kickoffs just become the same after a certain rank cause in the low ranks people get creative and do all sorts of stuff for kickoff
It would be really cool to see more eloborste kickoff strats and out plays and stuff
Probably the most popular strategy, everyone kicks off, every time, no matter what. Then the 3rd man needs to spam, Defending..., as if they weren't the one that was supposed to.
I usually use the side cheat in my 3s games, and if the ball ends up on the opposite side then the cheater rotates back and the 3rd man rotates to challenge the ball while kickoff guy recovers. Sort of an "I go front right, you go back left," kind of thing. It works for now, as we are pushing into diamond
As soon as Waylon talked about the afk fake, everyone started doing it in my one’s games lol
you should do like plays like in basketball whoever has the ball calls out the play like 2 the pick n roll and the 2nd man comes in a bumps the defender or make 5 pass play types
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10:15 the hoops kickoffs are called "The Friendship" and has be called so for over half a decade :)
Oh and also the RankedHoops people have been calling it tipoffs, instead of kickoffs :)
I may be the only one, but I think a kickoff should be counted as a success if it ends in an attack. the point of a kickoff isn't to immediately score, that rarely happens.
Just do a slight delay to your kickoff, you'll beat the usual speed flip 80% of the time
Depends on which speedflip occurs. A Musty speed flip is designed to cut the ball past the opponent. Aka the original intent is to beat the already slow opponent. Meaning a musty speed flip occurs later in the kickoff and the landing allows for the aggressive cut.
A 1v1 speed flip’s goal is to force the ball through the opponent, this variant can be countered by a well executed delayed flip. Meaning a 1v1 speed flip occurs earlier in the kickoff and allows for landing behind the ball early enough to front flip again into the ball.
A good high level player will 1v1 speed flip then slightly delay their second flip to essentially produce a fast “delayed” kickoff, making it EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to counter with a delayed flip.
Some of the highest level players like appjack use a 1v1 speedflip into a wavedash that allows for a faster exit recovery from the kickoff.
If there is 1 kickoff I always use and found it more effectively it was the backflip kickoff because I been using that for the past 2 months and won more games improved my skill from some of your other videos and happily sitting at c3
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I go for side boost on kickoff often in 3s and get a ton of goals out of it.
Wayton's videos are always my favorite whenever a see a notification.
Hey Wayton!! I have a question? What are your camera settings?! Btw you are the best TH-camr!❤
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Little does he know I already use it
I love these kind of video’s. I would love to see some of your non mech video’s.
Nice vid Wayton!
Try the buddy kickoff in soccer for 2s or 3s when you have one far back and one slightly in front
You should have done the spanish kickoff
Where the guy is closest to the ball during kickoffs fakes and goes for a bump/demo and than the opponent passes the ball to your teammate where he can shoot/pass/dribble
And the mate taking the kickoff hopefully gets a demo and than the goal is free
My strat in diamond, is kill my momentum with a backflip just before hitting the ball. It’s got a decent success rate for me
Wayton thanks for putting time stamps
This is my first time watching a RL vid with someone I’ve played before showing up.
Must mean I’m climbing the ranks
Let’s hit 500k Wayton
Amazing video! I have always loved the cinematics!
I'm now going to see so many Golds back flipping on kick off in my warm up casual matches
I'm only Plat 3 in one's so I'm definitely going to try the back flip kickoff, it looks like a legitimate strategy for 1s
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The hoops kickoff is actually called friendship and you should try that the closer player fakes it and goes to bump or demo the opponent that doesn't go for the ball and teammate is defending the net and i hope you understand what i mean
Video idea: challenge someone to recreate famous cars in the rocket league garage from memory and see how well they do. Mystery machine for example
I saw that’s kap, who was is sunless’s bob video, in the fake&scoop portion!!!
The chats at 3:09 💀💀
Try buddy kickoff in 2s, kinda works when both are in the back next to each other, diagonally flipping into each other
6:52
If I was the opponent, I would've raged.
Hey Wayton, awesome content as always ! 😎
My buddy and I have been doing the corner collect for awhile before seeing this video lol
Love the vids Wayton. I get that it is hard to edit and record but your vids are so good I just want more vids because there soooo amazing
One advance tactic of backflip kikoff drive to the ball with a bit boost after the second boost pad make a jump 40 degrees backwards and flip backwards u will often win a free goal in 1s and nobody play like that without me if iam about to lose a game 😂
The 1v1 backflip kickoff just seems the same as a delayed kickoff. In which case 3/10 seems harsh since delayed kickoffs are OP
I just noticed there are custom training packs from Psyonix. But the way they want you to score is not always clear. I tried to search for the solutions on TH-cam but i couldn't find it. Maybe you got any idea? I mean, you made a few training packs, right? But there was the rule we need to collect the first boost pad and then we are allowed to steer. Maybe Psyonix had an intentional way to clear the shots? Or is it something like this: Try to hit the ball as early as possible with much power?
the one person playing hoops after the intro be like: whoooooo
this is like the sunless video
Waytons videos are always just the best man. Thanks for posting amazing videos for us!
I need that beat @8:36
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What about the double fake with the 3rd player doing the delayed kick off
Definitely one of the best rl content creator. Btw love the new pfp
Wayton your vid’s are the best out of every rocket league content creator