I feel we're approaching the final arch. What a way to go ... bringing us some one shots or mini sessions with our favorite characters. But tissues will be required I'm sure. ❤
This feels like the end of an era is approaching. It wouldn't surprise me if the next project they do is drastically different from these three campaigns, be it new world, new game, there's got to be some kind of reset after this, surely? Either way, I'm so pumped!
@@johnriddell7116 I have no issue with this but the excitement from the cast for him to play those characters has me hoping he plays as tary and Kingsley
I wouldn't mind Sam leaving Veth and Luke out and doing something else. Maybe playing Wulf or Astrid (imagine the whole ex and current SO dynamic if Essek shows up)
I can't believe it took me this long to realise that Orym's father-in-law Derrig is the same Derrig who came to the Percahlia wedding as Keyleth's bodyguard😂
I'm just so excited to see so much lore and character archs grow the last few episodes. If it wraps up fast I'm okay with that. Just more dnd to look forward to with all new characters for campaign 4!!!
If this is going to be 2 one shots, one each of Vox Machina, and Mighty Nein, at the same time Bells Hells taking on Ludinus… I wish to quote Vegeta from DBZ Abridged. “Never in my life have I wanted something so much and never known until I received it”
@@ZodiacBandit ohhh i see! i hope we get at least 2 episodes w VM and M9 to extend the campaign a bit and have more time w those characters! kinda like a crown keepers situation
I was thinking Gilmore for Robbie as well tbh. Liam could also play the kod that emulated Vax and joined Ripley's crew. Can't remember their name or if they lived though.
@@alexandermagee3288 I was thinking this same thing the odds Matt goes harder here then ever before I are very high I would make a predictions video about it but honestly it’s hard to predict something like this with the enemy being so unknown
I reckon the three battles play out and then the remaining party members from each group (some may die, some may just be tapped out or gravely injured) team up to fight Lilliana or some sort of battle with either Prodothos; or either the Prime deities or the Betrayers. And then at the end of it all, they have to fight Spurt, Viktor, and Kiree - the true puppet masters behind everything that has transpired.
@@ZodiacBandit I’m pretty sure there was a throwaway comment very early on in C3 but I don’t recall if it was something Ashton said, or maybe something from Taliesin in a 4SD… but there was an indication that Ashton knew about The OwlBear and was either a fan or disbeliever…
Sounds amazing but also makes it seems like the 4th campaign is going to be in some other world and/or system since this is kind of a finale for all three campaigns.
There could be a chance for another group of which we might know a few characters... because I can't shake a feeling that Allura, Kima and Earthbreaker Groon used to be part of the same adventuring party... Also, about the endgame. What if Predathos is stopped but Ludinus isn't? That could remove the pressure of apocalypse while at the same time keep sthe stakes pretty high...
I do agree I think we're getting maybe 20+ more episodes give or take ? I wish it was 30+ to end everything and maybe take a few post or end game side trips ? Ok if we're getting a 3 Prong Party Battles , I hope we get all 3 but each Party gets 2 episodes A Pre fight just checking in prep full out some story between Parties ect. Then the battle episode w/ Stakes of characters maybe dying ? I also want more characters to obtain Relics maybe going to a few characters not everyone ? Or same Party ? Example Orym just got a Relic maybe Breas or ( Imogen The Matrine was trying to speak to Imogen The Crows at Grave ? But Imogen said F' that . ) Ashton wanted to confront a God I hope he gets a Relic. Jumping to Mighty 9 Luke Should get a Relic to even things up Yasha Jester Fjord Cad all serve. And Opal and some of The Crown Keepers serve and Deyna and Prism serve so maybe they should return? I like Sam playing Luke and Darrington Liam playing Leia Tailesin playing Caduceus Robbie playing Molly and a Special Guest Character ? But yah I want Deyna Frieda Prism Opal or Deni$e Furiai and The Bunny to return maybe a small arc not directly connected to final battle but adjacent to Bell's maybe helping or get Intel / a Relic to them that could like 6 more episodes outside of The Party Battles?
I dont think there is 10 more episodes, imo its more like 30 ish...and here is why #spoilers: they want to speak with the gods and possible obtain more than one Relic of The Red Solstice. So that would definitely eat up a lot of time while the rest pf Exandria prepare the field. So what I think would happen is they will go do that and then try to use nana mori one more time (or a gods help) to go back in time and be prepared in less in-game time. Keep in mind they are 14th lvl against a creature who is possibly OVER 20th lvl so they need to find a way to stack things to their favor.
My theory is that they get that necklace on ludinus or one of the BBEGs near the dead Titan, get the BBEG to kill something, the necklace curse is activated and suddenly they have a re-animated titan fighting the BBEG with them.
@@Banquet42 too farfetched...the necklace was clearly not something that Matt had planned for them to obtain. 1. Laudna just found it in the floor and 2. Matt was hella unprepared to give the necklaces info, so either he came up with it on the spot, or the item was buried into the "quirky items they might find in Aeor" notes' list. So it's not like a mcguffin they need to use in order to defeat the opponent. At first I thought they might get to use it, but then considering that they are going to the moon to fight Ludi then I dont think they would be a lot of undead to fight with against him 🤣 unless its way later on the fight and they use the corpses of defeated reilorans and ruby vanguards (assuming they will be compelled to turn against him)
Are we taking bets that these could be live shows? I think BH will stay in format, but I kinda want the VM & M9 one shots (or 2 or 3 part-ers) to be live shows…
@@LDC4th if you’re saying live like streaming that would be cool but if you’re saying live events with crowds I hope not cuz I just know they won’t be near me lol
I want sam to play as verh, but if he doesn't i wouldn't wsnt him to play as luc sgain, it was fun for the one shot but i think it would just be the same thing all over again, veth still wouldn't want him to go, and should be keeping an eye on him considering what happened, so what if ot's sam that plays kingsley? I think he'd be an amazing kingsley. And what if robbie plays everyone's favorite hot elf boy?
@@ZodiacBandit yeah, i agree. i do expect sam to play Veth, and i think he 'should' (not that anyone can or should force him to do anything) cause it does feel like a grand finale. but if anyone would pull somehthing like that off, it would be sam.
@@brendanreeves6785 idk I feel like it’s better to just keep the groups intact the mixing and matching would be cool but this way we don’t have to have like a interaction between characters that’s totally unnecessary and this way we don’t need to hear about them having to mix the best groups possible together just leaving the groups as is makes things simpler
Kinda makes me think they'll split the party as in two players will be their Vox Machina pcs, two will be Mighty Nein and two Bells Hells. I'd rule out Percy and Vex from VM for their age, Veth and Yasha from M9 cos they're family oriented now. I'm sure we'll see Jester and Artie tho!
What about the arkhan who took vecnas hand in campaign one and vanished out? I'm sort of expecting a long term come back from him somewhere along the lines in this final showdown.
I do appreciate the callbacks and the cameos from previous campaigns but it's getting to be a bit much. C4 needs to be set far in the future in order to avoid all of this stuff. I think it needs to be pulled back a bit as well, both regarding the setup behind the scenes and the narrative campaign. We went from a powerful lich to an ancient corrupt city in the Astral Sea to breaking all of magic and literally going to the moon. It's starting to feel a bit "Hollywood" a la Michael Bay. It's too grand and bombastic. I think more of a regular old done-to-Earth C1-style campaign would be a good thing. I also feel as if they didn't really know what they wanted this campaign to be. I really hope C4 won't be as disjointed as C3. I didn't particularly enjoy the disruptions, derailments and bait-and-switches. They tried to cram way too much into this thing.
Personally I would love to see all the previous adventures groups return (Vox, Nein, Bells, Brigade, Crown, and the guest's from previous campaigns). I just hope they send Vox Machina to the Weave Mind rather than the key. We already saw Might Nein fight a group of psychic collective which could control reality with their mind, in my opinion it doesn't land as much as Vox Machina. C3 has been connected to C1 far more than C2 - as the only real connection has been Ludinus, Caleb, and Beau. I want to see a final hurrah for the OG group, and for them to play a more important part role within the story. I mean Vox Machina is known as the Dragon Slayers, the ones who sealed a God, and received the blessings of the Gods by becoming their champions. Mighty Nein have done great things but they are nowhere near as infamous and renowned.
@@karlstoker04 keylith wants to save vax Vox machina is for sure going to the key The idea of them all showing up is hard the list of people would be massive and they already have 8 people I would love it but that’s a lot
@@ZodiacBandit I know that Keyleth would want to save Vax but for the narrative it would make more sense for the legendary well known group to tackle the greatest unknown. The weave mind feels like a big bad of the campaign, the key and Ludinus feels minor in comparison to the unknown eldrich horror of a collective of anicent beings. The Might Nein are not well known in Exandria, on the other hand they have Vox Machina. 》The Dawn Marshals (leadership of Vasselheim) had Pike as a honorary member in C1, 》The Concil of Tal'dorei includes Vex and the rest of Vox Machina are honorary members, 》They slayed 4 ancient dragons, 》4 of them became the champions of the Gods championsand recieved their blessings, 》They sealed an newly ascended betrayer God. C3 has far more references to C1, the only connection to C2 has been: 》Caleb, 》Beau, 》Ludinus, 》Dunamancy, 》Essek, 》Bright Queen. 6 connections compaired to even the PC's connection. I think for guest's, Brigade, and crown keepers return would be separate one shots from the main grouls rather than 9+ at a table.
@@karlstoker04 honestly the weave mind seem like the strongest threat and the mighty nein are the strongest group and have 2 insane healers it makes more sense for them to deal with them especially with their experience with dealing with similar situations
@@ZodiacBandit I just find it hard to believe that the world of Exandria would entrust the most dangerous job to a group who hasn't been involved in the wider events (apart from Beau and Caleb), especially because they only have the word of Allura (who met them twice)l Vox Machina are more powerful than Mighty Nein in both gameplay and narrative. Facts: Grog = Highest strength + Most HP + Most resistances Keyleth = Level 20 moon druid (near immortal) + Healing Scanlan = Bonus action healing Pike = Healer Vex = Minor healing Percy = Record holder for most damage dealt in a single attack and round Lieve'tel = Healer (a likely character) They have the most recovery and damage on their side, not to mention the blessings that Scanlan, Pike, and Vex for becoming champions. The only individual in Might Nein I would say is stronger than a equivalent counter part in Vox Machina is Yasha because of [Rage Beyond Death] making her effectively immortal.
@@karlstoker04 while all of this is true grog is super weak to psychic and his wisdom is poor he’s be used against the party much like Yasha that being said the nein also have the bright queen as a ally so she’ll vouch for them
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I feel we're approaching the final arch. What a way to go ... bringing us some one shots or mini sessions with our favorite characters. But tissues will be required I'm sure. ❤
@@Tainteddragon not everyone will make it out of this one for sure
This feels like the end of an era is approaching. It wouldn't surprise me if the next project they do is drastically different from these three campaigns, be it new world, new game, there's got to be some kind of reset after this, surely? Either way, I'm so pumped!
I want Robbie to be able to shine in the unique characters he creates!!!!
@@johnriddell7116 I have no issue with this but the excitement from the cast for him to play those characters has me hoping he plays as tary and Kingsley
I wouldn't mind Sam leaving Veth and Luke out and doing something else. Maybe playing Wulf or Astrid (imagine the whole ex and current SO dynamic if Essek shows up)
I can't believe it took me this long to realise that Orym's father-in-law Derrig is the same Derrig who came to the Percahlia wedding as Keyleth's bodyguard😂
@@daneroberts1996 yup exact same guy lol derring was the Orym prototype
The reunion arc of Campaign 3 will turn out to be a huge 10th Anniversary special event for Critical Role, and I am here for it. ❤
I'm just so excited to see so much lore and character archs grow the last few episodes. If it wraps up fast I'm okay with that. Just more dnd to look forward to with all new characters for campaign 4!!!
If this is going to be 2 one shots, one each of Vox Machina, and Mighty Nein, at the same time Bells Hells taking on Ludinus… I wish to quote Vegeta from DBZ Abridged.
“Never in my life have I wanted something so much and never known until I received it”
@@Ilthalimir “I wanna be a super saiyan I wanna I wanna”
It could be a 2 shot each i feel like that would feel better and not be rushed
@@ZodiacBandit
Oh absolutely. One session to get there, and then the other being the main fight
@@Ilthalimir yes a full session for us to learn what they’ve been up to is so necessary
i don't think it'll be one shots, i think they're gonna be hopping groups within the main episodes!
@@kenziehoullahan1446 yes they’ll be episodes of campaign 3 but I’m mainly just saying one shot as in one episode a one off
@@ZodiacBandit ohhh i see! i hope we get at least 2 episodes w VM and M9 to extend the campaign a bit and have more time w those characters! kinda like a crown keepers situation
I was thinking Gilmore for Robbie as well tbh.
Liam could also play the kod that emulated Vax and joined Ripley's crew. Can't remember their name or if they lived though.
*kid, not kod
Very excited, however very worried we could have a couple pc deaths :/ bring the tissues people
@@alexandermagee3288 I was thinking this same thing the odds Matt goes harder here then ever before I are very high I would make a predictions video about it but honestly it’s hard to predict something like this with the enemy being so unknown
@@ZodiacBandit I agree I could make a couple guesses but with so many characters in play it could literally be anyone
I reckon the three battles play out and then the remaining party members from each group (some may die, some may just be tapped out or gravely injured) team up to fight Lilliana or some sort of battle with either Prodothos; or either the Prime deities or the Betrayers.
And then at the end of it all, they have to fight Spurt, Viktor, and Kiree - the true puppet masters behind everything that has transpired.
Liam should play Gilmore so he can save his favorite piece of ass
@@doctorfaust9759 Lmao might happen who knows
Robbie would be a great Gilmore
If the Darrington Brigade show up I will be greatly amused.
@@Banquet42 I need more owlbear
I would REALLY like to watch Ashton meet The OwlBear
@@LDC4th he would either hate him or love him no in between
@@ZodiacBandit I’m pretty sure there was a throwaway comment very early on in C3 but I don’t recall if it was something Ashton said, or maybe something from Taliesin in a 4SD… but there was an indication that Ashton knew about The OwlBear and was either a fan or disbeliever…
@@LDC4th oh I think this did happen with lord estheros and someone Estheros is the disbeliever I’m gonna have to find that now
Sounds amazing but also makes it seems like the 4th campaign is going to be in some other world and/or system since this is kind of a finale for all three campaigns.
@@Dunybrook maybe but it could also mean a big jump in time as opposed to the 30 years it’ll be 300 and up
@@Dunybrook Matt has talked about what the future of exandria will be depending on which side wins and we’ll definitely see that
It should also be mentioned that the last time Tal played Kingsley it was partially because Cad was half a year into casting a Ceromony
There could be a chance for another group of which we might know a few characters... because I can't shake a feeling that Allura, Kima and Earthbreaker Groon used to be part of the same adventuring party...
Also, about the endgame. What if Predathos is stopped but Ludinus isn't? That could remove the pressure of apocalypse while at the same time keep sthe stakes pretty high...
Would be awesome to see the three groups working together.
I do agree I think we're getting maybe 20+ more episodes give or take ? I wish it was 30+ to end everything and maybe take a few post or end game side trips ?
Ok if we're getting a 3 Prong Party Battles , I hope we get all 3 but each Party gets 2 episodes
A Pre fight just checking in prep full out some story between Parties ect. Then the battle episode w/ Stakes of characters maybe dying ?
I also want more characters to obtain Relics maybe going to a few characters not everyone ? Or same Party ? Example Orym just got a Relic maybe Breas or ( Imogen The Matrine was trying to speak to Imogen The Crows at Grave ? But Imogen said F' that . ) Ashton wanted to confront a God I hope he gets a Relic.
Jumping to Mighty 9 Luke Should get a Relic to even things up Yasha Jester Fjord Cad all serve.
And Opal and some of The Crown Keepers serve and Deyna and Prism serve so maybe they should return?
I like Sam playing Luke and Darrington
Liam playing Leia
Tailesin playing Caduceus
Robbie playing Molly and a Special Guest Character ?
But yah I want Deyna Frieda Prism Opal or Deni$e Furiai and The Bunny to return maybe a small arc not directly connected to final battle but adjacent to Bell's maybe helping or get Intel / a Relic to them that could like 6 more episodes outside of The Party Battles?
I gotta go back to C2 and get all the Ludinus lore.
Yes, yes, do it there are some brilliant moments.
You'll get a lot more by simply reading the wiki. C2 contains almost no essential lore at all.
What if Liam plays Kynan? He had a pretty close relationship with Vax. Of course, that's only if he doesn't play Lievtel(Spelling?)
That's who I was thinking of but couldn't remember the name :)
I think its most likely Liam would play Lievetel, given her link to Bertrand Bell and by extension Bells Hells.
I dont think there is 10 more episodes, imo its more like 30 ish...and here is why #spoilers: they want to speak with the gods and possible obtain more than one Relic of The Red Solstice. So that would definitely eat up a lot of time while the rest pf Exandria prepare the field. So what I think would happen is they will go do that and then try to use nana mori one more time (or a gods help) to go back in time and be prepared in less in-game time. Keep in mind they are 14th lvl against a creature who is possibly OVER 20th lvl so they need to find a way to stack things to their favor.
@@Astrein0017 I like this I like this a lot
My theory is that they get that necklace on ludinus or one of the BBEGs near the dead Titan, get the BBEG to kill something, the necklace curse is activated and suddenly they have a re-animated titan fighting the BBEG with them.
@@Banquet42 too farfetched...the necklace was clearly not something that Matt had planned for them to obtain. 1. Laudna just found it in the floor and 2. Matt was hella unprepared to give the necklaces info, so either he came up with it on the spot, or the item was buried into the "quirky items they might find in Aeor" notes' list.
So it's not like a mcguffin they need to use in order to defeat the opponent.
At first I thought they might get to use it, but then considering that they are going to the moon to fight Ludi then I dont think they would be a lot of undead to fight with against him 🤣 unless its way later on the fight and they use the corpses of defeated reilorans and ruby vanguards (assuming they will be compelled to turn against him)
@@Astrein0017 fair point, although most of my theories on CR are far fetched tbh, I just enjoy the thought experiment most of the time :)
Are we taking bets that these could be live shows? I think BH will stay in format, but I kinda want the VM & M9 one shots (or 2 or 3 part-ers) to be live shows…
@@LDC4th if you’re saying live like streaming that would be cool but if you’re saying live events with crowds I hope not cuz I just know they won’t be near me lol
Sounds pretty awesome, great way to end campaign 3.
I am really waiting for next episodes who will play who and how it will end 😁
I want sam to play as verh, but if he doesn't i wouldn't wsnt him to play as luc sgain, it was fun for the one shot but i think it would just be the same thing all over again, veth still wouldn't want him to go, and should be keeping an eye on him considering what happened, so what if ot's sam that plays kingsley? I think he'd be an amazing kingsley. And what if robbie plays everyone's favorite hot elf boy?
@@chanyael Essek is an option for either of them I do think he’ll play as Veth this one is more important then the last thing they did
Sam will play Ukatoah.
@@Banquet42 owh, maybe we get a one shot first where they hunt down that purple [hoenix, and they persuade that one to join them for sam to play
@@ZodiacBandit yeah, i agree. i do expect sam to play Veth, and i think he 'should' (not that anyone can or should force him to do anything) cause it does feel like a grand finale. but if anyone would pull somehthing like that off, it would be sam.
I was hoping we might get mixed groups but this could very cool
@@brendanreeves6785 idk I feel like it’s better to just keep the groups intact the mixing and matching would be cool but this way we don’t have to have like a interaction between characters that’s totally unnecessary and this way we don’t need to hear about them having to mix the best groups possible together just leaving the groups as is makes things simpler
Kinda makes me think they'll split the party as in two players will be their Vox Machina pcs, two will be Mighty Nein and two Bells Hells. I'd rule out Percy and Vex from VM for their age, Veth and Yasha from M9 cos they're family oriented now. I'm sure we'll see Jester and Artie tho!
@@ghostlyapples I don’t think this’ll happen but cool idea
What about the arkhan who took vecnas hand in campaign one and vanished out? I'm sort of expecting a long term come back from him somewhere along the lines in this final showdown.
@@Zeo-yl9pd he’s Tiamats champion there’s a chance he’s one of the betrayer champs they were mentioning
I do appreciate the callbacks and the cameos from previous campaigns but it's getting to be a bit much. C4 needs to be set far in the future in order to avoid all of this stuff. I think it needs to be pulled back a bit as well, both regarding the setup behind the scenes and the narrative campaign. We went from a powerful lich to an ancient corrupt city in the Astral Sea to breaking all of magic and literally going to the moon. It's starting to feel a bit "Hollywood" a la Michael Bay. It's too grand and bombastic. I think more of a regular old done-to-Earth C1-style campaign would be a good thing.
I also feel as if they didn't really know what they wanted this campaign to be. I really hope C4 won't be as disjointed as C3. I didn't particularly enjoy the disruptions, derailments and bait-and-switches. They tried to cram way too much into this thing.
Personally I would love to see all the previous adventures groups return (Vox, Nein, Bells, Brigade, Crown, and the guest's from previous campaigns).
I just hope they send Vox Machina to the Weave Mind rather than the key. We already saw Might Nein fight a group of psychic collective which could control reality with their mind, in my opinion it doesn't land as much as Vox Machina.
C3 has been connected to C1 far more than C2 - as the only real connection has been Ludinus, Caleb, and Beau.
I want to see a final hurrah for the OG group, and for them to play a more important part role within the story. I mean Vox Machina is known as the Dragon Slayers, the ones who sealed a God, and received the blessings of the Gods by becoming their champions. Mighty Nein have done great things but they are nowhere near as infamous and renowned.
@@karlstoker04 keylith wants to save vax Vox machina is for sure going to the key
The idea of them all showing up is hard the list of people would be massive and they already have 8 people
I would love it but that’s a lot
@@ZodiacBandit I know that Keyleth would want to save Vax but for the narrative it would make more sense for the legendary well known group to tackle the greatest unknown.
The weave mind feels like a big bad of the campaign, the key and Ludinus feels minor in comparison to the unknown eldrich horror of a collective of anicent beings.
The Might Nein are not well known in Exandria, on the other hand they have Vox Machina.
》The Dawn Marshals (leadership of Vasselheim) had Pike as a honorary member in C1,
》The Concil of Tal'dorei includes Vex and the rest of Vox Machina are honorary members,
》They slayed 4 ancient dragons,
》4 of them became the champions of the Gods championsand recieved their blessings,
》They sealed an newly ascended betrayer God.
C3 has far more references to C1, the only connection to C2 has been:
》Caleb,
》Beau,
》Ludinus,
》Dunamancy,
》Essek,
》Bright Queen.
6 connections compaired to even the PC's connection.
I think for guest's, Brigade, and crown keepers return would be separate one shots from the main grouls rather than 9+ at a table.
@@karlstoker04 honestly the weave mind seem like the strongest threat and the mighty nein are the strongest group and have 2 insane healers it makes more sense for them to deal with them especially with their experience with dealing with similar situations
@@ZodiacBandit I just find it hard to believe that the world of Exandria would entrust the most dangerous job to a group who hasn't been involved in the wider events (apart from Beau and Caleb), especially because they only have the word of Allura (who met them twice)l
Vox Machina are more powerful than Mighty Nein in both gameplay and narrative.
Facts:
Grog = Highest strength + Most HP + Most resistances
Keyleth = Level 20 moon druid (near immortal) + Healing
Scanlan = Bonus action healing
Pike = Healer
Vex = Minor healing
Percy = Record holder for most damage dealt in a single attack and round
Lieve'tel = Healer (a likely character)
They have the most recovery and damage on their side, not to mention the blessings that Scanlan, Pike, and Vex for becoming champions.
The only individual in Might Nein I would say is stronger than a equivalent counter part in Vox Machina is Yasha because of [Rage Beyond Death] making her effectively immortal.
@@karlstoker04 while all of this is true grog is super weak to psychic and his wisdom is poor he’s be used against the party much like Yasha that being said the nein also have the bright queen as a ally so she’ll vouch for them
This is kinda bad @$$. Nope definitely bad *$$
@@angelsmilkyway4352 definitely I just keep thinking of how cool this’ll be animated