Dan also become far more endearing when his relationship with other characters developed. He developed a strong bond with Sakura and Blanka, the latter especially is touching because he's one of the few people to call him by his original name Jimmy. Sure, he's a parody character but he's also all in good fun and a nice guy at the end of the day.
@Lost1Wuns Capcom vs SNK 2 was made by Capcom, there's no SNK vs Capcom 2. The game made in that series that was made by SNK was SNK vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos.
6:41 'No, revenge is not what my father would of wanted, revenge is not what I want.' 'I want something no one can give me' 'I want my father back' ...damn bro, especially for the joke character that is tragic....
And then, when he was added to SFV, they ended up nerfing him because when it was discovered he had an infinite combo. Like, wow. From joke to the devs realizing they inadvertently made him break the game, it's the perfect way to to show how far he's come.
i love how they nerfed his infinite by buffing his fireball, which has a random chance to be a stronger fireball and knockdown the opponent, ruining the combo which requires a regular fireball. they made him worse by making him better
@@harrrieee not just that, they made him worse by making him less consistent. Just like how scrubs like me can’t consistently DP, this dweeb can’t even consistently do a fireball right
I think it is one of the best nerfs in fighting games ever, it makes perfect sense, it still gives the silly goofy character an infinite, and it's just a cool tool outside of the infinite
The best part is that Capcom could one day continue Dan's parody nature by giving him an alternate form, ala Evil Ryu or Violent Ken. Personally, I'd go with "Serious Dan", to parody "Serious Mr. Karate" from SVC Chaos & KOF XIII. Have him don the tengu mask, make it simply godlike & powerful... But give him half the health of Akuma, who tends to have the lowest health to balance out his power; literally, make it so that a single combo of decent length, especially if a super ends it, can defeat "Serious Dan". In storyline, it could even be explained that, in the end, Dan becomes terrified of just how skilled & even deadly he can be, if he takes himself absolutely seriously, so he locks "Serious Dan" away forever, truly content with the man that he normally is.
This is actually a godlike idea and I love it with absolutely no biases based around loving most joke characters in games. But seriously, Serious Dan would actually be badass. I would buy SFV for Serious Dan. I would actually *play* SFV for Serious Dan.
My favourite thing about Dan is that outside of the world of street fighter, he’d be able to kick the ass of any real-life person on earth. It’s just that in a world of psycho powered gods and green monsters he’s way out of his league.
Personally I really loved what UDON done with him in one of vignette little stories. The whole comics is essentially Dan's pitch on why you should try Saikyo style, and in it Dan's showed to be very compassionate, he helps elderly, albeit sometimes suffers for it. I especially love his final words. "You can never truly be defeated because you already found the path to the strongest living! Defeat is nothing but a winter wind that blows bitter frost in the face of the beast, and with every loss you must laugh louder untill the wind fills the sky with your laughter! You will learn to defeat defeat! This is the way of Hibiki's Ultra Dojo!" It shows a character growth for him, like yeah he's arrogant but he's a fool with a heart of gold.
Also notable is that Dan appears as a joke character in the Puyo-Puyo like spin off Super Puzzle Fighter. His garbage pattern is all one color, red. While clearing a large amount of one color can easily reverse Dan's attacks against him, if his opponent lacks the crucial piece to break all of that red it would probably make for a severely devastating and hilarious loss.
The creator of Street fighter 1 left Capcom to work at SNK which is why Ryo of Art of Fighting is similar to Ryu of Street Fighter. So the creator of SF's Ryu and the creator of AoF's Ryo are the same person.
Yes, the Japanese Takashi Nishiyama, he worked at Capcom creating SF1, then at SNK creating Fatal Fury, AOF and KOF, then at Dimps (company created when SNK died) creating SF4 and many good games..😏 Takashi Nishiyama decided to go to SNK because they were working on a technology with more power where he could work on all his fabulous ideas and also he had more freedom to work in his own way, CAPCOM continued with the project started by Takashi Nishiyama and created SF2, unfortunately SNK suffered a delay in finishing their technology and Capcom launched SF2 before Fatal Fury, this is why Capcom had a greater impact in the West. This is how the whole battle between Capcom and SNK was born, where clearly SNK always led with innovation, since the genius behind this idea was working at SNK. Interview with Takashi Nishiyama, Street Fighter and Fatal Fury creator. (12-14-2011) Originally appeared in 1UP Presents www.culturaneogeo.com/imagenes/entrevistas/streeteng.htm
Glad somebody said this. Ryo isn’t actually a rip off. He’s what Ryu should have become if his original creator stayed with Capcom. Yuri is SNK’s answer to Dan. Capcom said their mid boss can beat their main character. SNK answered by having Yuri, a beginner in Kyokugen Karate, able to perform Capcom’s deadliest techniques. Her moves constantly change. Over time, she’s copied Sakura’s Shunpuukyaku and shououken, Ryu’s shin Shoryuken, Akuma’s Shungokusatsu, Terry’s burn knuckle for some reason, and some others I’m probably forgetting 😂. In Capcom vs SNK, she and Dan have a special intro where they taunt at each other the same way.
@@YophiSmith Don't forget that SNK quite happily leaned into the parody by giving Dan his first iteration of Haoh Gadoken and a version of Ryo's Tenchi Haohken (that one-hit super with autoguard, except Dan's has slightly worse recovery thanks to breaking his hand and fixing it mid-match) as *regular special moves* in SvC Chaos.
Let's take an instant to remember that Bison DID offer Dan to join him, meaning that he have seen potential in him. The whole thing was there right from the start... xD
Dan it's the only one who learned how to throw fireballs like Gouken with only one hand so you could argue he had a lot of potential. So for me Dan's fight style is as strong as Gouken but is weak due to his training. I still love him, he will always have a spot on my personal roster for fun's sake and braging rights.
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 I hope in sf6 (when ever that is) that dan is in the base roster and his fire ball can go half screen without charging, it would show that he is getting better and that he is training Side note: I wish they kept Dan facing the screen when he did his dp in sf5 or at least when his in v trigger 2
@@sushiknight7013 I mean...In 5 it shows Dan has gotten Stronger. Hell, his super is now a V trigger. That shows he stronger. In lore, he will always be weak. Honestly, him charging it is a good progression. The only characters who share that gimmick are Oni and Goken. So imo how he is now is perfectly fine. Especially still keeping it tied to his overall Joke status.
Gouken is a trash teacher and person he basically sent Dan to his doom knowing full well he'd go after Sagat. He also has the Satsui No Hado which would've got worst if Sagat hadn't actually faked his loss and stomped Dan the Satsui No Hado would've activated and poof Akuma Jr.
Dan is actually quite a strong fighter. Compared to most people, he is a demigod. It just so happens that most, if not all of the people he happens to fight against are actual gods, and in the case of Ansatsuken users, titans. Hell, even Dan himself is in disbelief when he beats Oni in arcade mode, as seen in his win quote.
Here's an observation this vid missed, the joke behind Dan's gadoken: Art of Fighting matches feature super bars that start of full in the match and decrease when you use specials and supers. When your bar is fully depleted, you can still use specials but they become shite versions of themselves. In the case of the fireball, a metered version does decent damage and goes full screen, a meter less version does no damage and appears as a spec of energy on Ryo's hand
SNK turned Dan's joke into an entire gameplay trend by making everyone's projectiles fizzle just like Dan's from KOF 96 onwards, not until years later that everyone got their projectiles back by default without accessing alternate versions of them
Instead of Kage Ono should have just given us Dan or just regular evil Ryu or even try something different and give us Violent Ken. Kage is such a meeeeehhhh character
Ooof, this presents the idea of Dan pretty much fully embracing the darkness and thus absorbing Kage into him. He'd be an even more dangerous and could be a dark "Who's Laughing Now" as he thrashes everyone
I'd love for them to evolve Dan as a character. This is a crazy idea but I want Dan to unlock the dark Hadou. Like maybe Dan unlocks the power of the Dark Hadou and now has a shitton of power behind him, but has no idea how the hell to use it. I just think it would be a really funny idea for Dan to all of a sudden be a threat, like this dude who's been a Joke all his life finally becomes a threat. It'd be cool I think, though I know others might no be on board.
That could absolutely work as long as they keep it as a joke & make it so that he still can't win due to clumsiness & arrogance. Basically taking that bit where he trips over the backpack while attempting the Shun Goku Satsu, and fleshing it out into a whole bit/concept. Maybe he could blow up a mountain, only for the rubble to fall onto him slapstick-style; that kind of stuff.
I think more plausible idea is that Ryu falls to its influence and soundly trounces everybody else who see him as unstoppable, frightening monster and that gets defeated by Dan who saw just another fighter and that is nothing he isn't unfamiliar with.
The old joke is that, if someone pulls out DAN in a tournament, it's a big power move, because it's them saying "I can kick your ass, with the WORST character".
I'm still shocked Ganondorf never got an air taunt where he floats and laughs at your miserable attempts to defeat the King of Evil in any smash game. Seriously missed opportunity, even amidst the modding community :/
With this and Maxamillans dan legacy i was worried i missed Dan being announced for 5 lol Edit: well holy shit. Now ill have to hound street fighter videos for stuff on Remy. See if we can summon him too.
Dan has been a personal favorite character for years, mostly because a joke at one's own expense is funny to everyone. the only person who gets hurt by it is the person telling the joke.
Congrats on the new(?) episode release! Only being Semi-Familiar with Street Fighter, I feel like Kage as described here would be an example of "accidental" world building. I don't really see Capcpom deliberately setting out to make their swell new character emulate a non-sucky Dan Hibiki, even in the era of "characters are functions". I don't think that invalidates the point, though. After all, some of my favorite bits of trivia to dwell on in games and stuff are the things the creators didn't necessarily mean but actualized by saying anyway. Do you think it's too late for Dan to shine again? It's been a couple games since we've seen him, and I can't imagine there's much business sense in selling Dan as DLC...
I think the character is beloved enough that you could sell him as a bonus in a fighters pass quite easily. I feel like buying Dan individually is not enticing, but buying Dan in addition to several others, just for the sake of having Dan there and THEN the competitive characters, is very attractive. And Hell, there's so much Dan can do to parody modern fighting games, from carrying over mechanics from previous games to be "behind the times" (or even previous versions of SF) to having bad versions of other mechanics from other games (Dragon Rush, for instance, would be really easy to parody).
So worth the wait, I loved Dan from Street Fighter IV and myself and friends would quote him constantly (and still do) but I never knew his origins or that he delved into the darker side of SF lore. Absolutely hilarious. I want to see his Dad as a fighter one day. Also Agumon or whoever that little dinosaur was seems completely OP and I love him.
Ryo Sakazaki is my favorite character so Dan is automatically my favorite Street Fighter character. Great video just in time for Dan's triumphant return to Street Fighter (SFV DLC)!
The Cutscene at 15:54 with the slicked back ponytail hair and portly body. It gives me a Steven Seagal vibe. Given how much Seagal loves himself, and how much both the acting and martial arts communities hate him for being a malicious blowhard, I wonder if the personalities and appearance of later Dans are also influenced by the aikido master.
I know this is a long video and all, but the reason Sagat threw the fight against Dan was because of Ryu. Sagat wanted revenge after losing, but he threw the fight to teach him the very lesson he would teach Dan. Sagat had some character development after realizing that the scar Ryu gave him was a result of the Satsui no Hadou's influence (a slight retcon from the original lore).
Yes , also said hatred costed him his "king of muay thai" title when he lost a fight against Adon . Once he get rid of his need for revenge , he defeated Adon without breaking a sweat .
If dan was given some pointers from ryu and some other other people in the street fighter universe he could probably be one of the most dangerous fighters
He did train under Gouken (trained Ryu and Ken and with Akuma) for a while. He was too angry to qualify for longer training. Scarier idea is that Akuma would approach Dan to teach him.
I easily relate to Dan, he first appeared in a game that was released the year I was born &, coincidentally, his fictional birth date is November 25. If you minus the 2 & 5 respectively by 1, you get November 14, the day I was born.
With his one hands gadokens, i would make it so that when spammed the move inputted, his comes out the fastest of all characters but go the pituful distance the go in dan, but when charged a bit, they come as proper projectiles, perhaps to add that like an anti-spamming tool and to imply that Dan actually putting effort and seriousness to his moves, they go well. Since in KoF the fireball deplete the special bar until empty, here is it that dan has to wait a lil bit so that he has enough energy to throw proper fireballs.
I think it's also worth pointing out that in Sakura Ganbaru and other Street Fighter comics, it's established that Dan is a strong enough martial artist to handle standard mooks and basic practitioners. It's only when he's up against standard SF characters that are obscenely tough that he ends up the woeful figure we've come to know and love
You know, I just thought about it for a bit... Street Fighter IV legitimately gave Dan a Dream Cancel (or as best as they could with the game's systems). That's amazing.
Of course, now that Street Fighter V actually *added* Dan as its first Season 5 character, he winds up getting a legitimate infinite that they wound up patching out... by randomly making his fireball *stronger* when used. Think about that for a second: he's able to keep an opponent immobilized for ~100 hits (SF5 handles infinite combos by making an opponent fall in a spinning animation after hit #100, though you can cancel into a CA on hit 99, and it will connect fully) precisely *because* he's so weak by proxy, that a stronger attack actually breaks it up.
What an amazing video. I'm a long time Dan fan, I never really thought of it as in depth as you have, you've given me an even greater appreciation of one of my favourite video game characters. Keep doing amazing work!
Ok, someone hear me out on this idea. 5th Marvel vs Capcom, Dan returns as a playable character but a second version is a hidden playable character and it's just Dan but he gets powers via some stupid reason, steals an Iron Man Suit, or a mutant gene awakens within him, something, and it's just Dan but he has actual powers and adapts it into his own new fighting style (which is dubbed by him as "Neo Saikyo Style" to become semi-competent, but still a joke character at the end of the day. Maybe if he has powers or a mutant gene, perhaps he gets some stupid mostly harmless power at first glance, but can be used to fight in a very awkward and unconventional way. I'm also thinking something that fits his last name being Hibiki meaning "resonance" or "echo" in Japanese. Edit: Better idea, he sneaks into S.H.I.E.L.D. and steals a bunch of equipment from the various Avengers, like one of the arm and legs of an Iron Man suit, Cap's Shield, Spider-Man's web shooters, Thor's hammer (which he can somehow lift), you get the idea, and tries to use the Special Attacks of the heroes but in his own Dan way that turns the move into something else. Like Dan's Gadoken is fired with the web shooter and it turns into a burning web fireball that is no stronger than the average Hadoken and doesn't even web up the opponent like Spider-Man's does. It's just Dan making a fool of himself and trying to emulate the heroes but failing, it's perfect for Dan. Make it happen Capcom, I'd throw money at that.
Ryo is not a rip off of Ryu, he is a homage to Ryu and ken. You can’t really rip off your own creations (the director of SF ‘87 went to SNK and started making games for them, including Art of Fighting.)
I can assure you that if Dan ever returns as a DLC mentor for SF6, everyone and their mothers will beg to use the Saikyo-Ryu fighting style for the privilege of using the legendary taunt with their created character.
@Far from Evolution True but Move wise the only time he does The real uppercut in his jinsei special And all they did was replace the theme Of dragon with tiger. He normally uses his elbow instead of His actual fist for the shoeyuken move. His version of the hurricane kick Inspired dan hibiki hurricane kick Who is more likely based on ryo sakazaki.
@@Lupo32 It's ridiculous to censor another fg if the char has a fireball and an uppercut move. All 2d fg's have fireball and uppercuts, for God's sake... That means Capcom would take everybody else's right to use fireballs and uppercuts in their games (actually everything else that is in Sf2, but here im focusing on those two moves). Imagine what would have been of the gaming scene if every company that invented a gaming genre back then was capable of denying everybody else of using some of those ideas.
Now I cannot unsee Kage as Dan, but DAMN that really opened my eyes that Dan uses the full potential of the Ansatsuken, but the problem is that he's not a good fighter by design and thanks to his goofy and care free attitude he ain't getting to the top. Irony here though in story he can beat up thugs and unknown nameless fighters, SEAN on the other hand gets beaten by nameless and unknown fighters in his storyline, so was Sean made to make Dan look good kinda? Who knows...
I think Dan is quite similar to Ryu. Both struggle with their shadow (Jungian sense) and while Ryu suppresses his shadow Dan has encountered it. Ryu imagines light while Dan has awakened darkness. So basically all manipulations and schemes Akuma tries to employ towards Ryu are ineffective towards Dan and that makes him so much stronger. And they both defeated Sagat and it had strong effect on them. Ryu saw his shadow and got frightened by it while Dan saw it and accepted it as part of his self.
Sean is an amateur who tries to copy Ken's fighting style pretty much Sakura did with Ryu's . But unlike Sakura , Sean isn't a prodigy ... And unlike Dan , he didn't had a master to teach him ...
Though not into SF, i would love to see a future fighter to be his Dad, Go hibiki, as a sort of Flashback fighter perhaps, or one that through simulations is "sort of" real? (him facing dan would be SuPER awkward)
"What an idiot, who uses one hand to peform a hadoken?" Akuma, Shin Akuma, Evil Ryu(MVC, his Super), Gouken(SF4) approach you while SFA3's Groan(Shin Akuma's theme) plays..
Another cool thing about Dan is that, as much as a joke as he is in Street Fighter, he is legitimately a very strong and skilled guy. I mean, come on, he's ripped, legitimately knows how to kick and throw a punch, can jump and roll around and keep going like nobody's business, and can even throw fireballs out of his hands! In any other more grounded setting he would be a superpowered individual. But nope, he's in Street Fighter, and he is surrounded by people who are leagues more impressive than him at what he does, and ends up looking like a joke compared to all of them.
Dan not only works well as a parody of his and SNK's own series, but also as a real life parody of all those phony karate dojos that kept springing up in the 70's and 80's.
It's also funny because SNK made Yuri into essentially an Akuma clone as Akumas air fireballs were first thought up in art of fighting which slightly predates street fighter 2 turbo
Why does no one mention that Go Hibiki is associated with Tengu masks, another reference to Takuma "Mr. Karate" Sakazaki? I'm seriously surprised you mentioned the Cyber Akuma thing but not the Tengu masks
Thanks for explaining the Lore of dan A lot of people don’t understand Street fighter has some Very complex characters you just have to look deep into it
Dan is the greatest joke character, and what SNK did in SvC Chaos was beautiful, with the GADOU SHO KOUKEN and the other animations (Joe Higashi and Yuri Sakazaki) of him mocking the opponents... The special intro of him vs Yuri in CvS and CvS2 are amazing just because of that alone...
In SvC Chaos , he's constantly mistaken for Robert . Oddly , when used as a striker on KOF 00 , there's a version of Robert who wears a white gi and black tank top , pretty much resembling Dan's costume .
I wish you would have gone more into the rivalry between Capcom and SNK because I think that context adds a lot to Dan's charm. For instance, Art of Fighting was actually developed by the same individuals that created the original Street Fighter, and the two companies exchanged a lot of staff over the 90s and 2000s. SNK themselves also shot back at Capcom numerous times in their own ways (for example, Ryo's fireball being changed to be short ranged like Dan's, except actually powerful), but it was always good natured and playful fun between friends/colleagues. Dan could almost be singlehandedly credited with the entire existence of the SNK vs Capcom crossovers, and I think that's an awesome legacy to have. Not unlike how Akuma could be credited for the existence of Marvel vs Capcom due to his X-Men guest appearance.
He actually also has a Tekken reference in SF5, inputting a dp and pressing the punch button at the same time you finish the motion you get an electric wind god fist
Cool video, but I think they glossed over the fact that Dan is basically made up of Ryo's body with Robert's head. They only mentioned he has a similar "facial structure" to Robert but didn't say he has the exact same Steven Seagal inspired pony tail. Also, one handed fire balls aren't a joke, Gouken is the master and that's how he does it. Dan is simply trying to run before he can walk.
The author, who seemed to want to take a side, if anything at least to play along Dan's theme, portrayed Ryo and AOF with a negative tone, even including innacuracies (cant say if malicious or not). First, Ryo originally - thus the only reference avaliable for Capcom at the time - had a normal long distance fireball. His fireball however doesnt come out when his energy bar is low. That's the same for everybody's fireball in the game. It happens that Capcom apparently wanted to make fun of Ryo's low energy fireball... Only one instance. It's just a different game system. But Ryo's fireball normally is like Ryu's - except it's stronger and can be thrown in the air. So he does more than Ryu and doesnt need to use two hands. And when he uses both hands, it's to throw a huge one. Now there is the fact that his projectile was changed in Kof 96 onwards. But it came after Dan. It's another matter. But the author made it sound like Ryo has a shit fireball in AOF and then Capcom is making fun of that, and he presented that to an audience that is expected to be very ignorant about Snk. And the desire to mock Ryo made him overlook the fact, as you said, that Gouken also has one hand fireballs. Meaning that Ryo's "normal" is close to what only Gouken does in the SF world. But i guess the guy wouldnt feel like giving that message to an audience that is expected to have the same bias. It's prohibited not to badmouth Snk.
I think my favorite layer to Dan’s joke is actually the way his moveset is designed. A running theme through the years has been that the moves Dan takes from the other Shotos are typically not great, but his limited amount of unique tools are extremely good. This ranges from stuff like his SF5 V-Skill taunts being able to do combos not normally possible to the extremes of SF4 Dan Kicks being one the single best moves in the whole game. This has lead to an idea that Saikyo Style actually is incredibly powerful, but because Dan is so obsessed with trying to master the Ansetsuken he doesn’t realize this, and he actively hampers his own fighting style by trying to copy Ken and Ryu. But despite this he does show signs of growth in 5, both in him finding new ways to use taunts in combat with the afformentioned V-Skills, but also that one of his V-Triggers is his old fireball ultra from SF4, but now it doesn’t send him flying on his butt anymore.
One details that people miss about Dan is his name. Andy Bogard from Fatal Fury (another SNK game) has a move called Shoryudan. The move get's it name from the same idea as the Shoryuken. Shoryuken=Rising Dragon Fist Shoryudan=Rising Dragon Circle Hi name meaning circle is also likely why he has so many rolling related moves.
Well I don't know if anybody know about this but the same guy who made street fighter 2 made Ryo also sooooo yeah, like after parting with capcom he joined snk to make the art of fighting (and I think the king of the king of fighters but not sure about it) .
Ryu and Ryo were created by the same person, Takashi Nishiyama. He didn't rip himself off. Also Art of Fighting is about 100 times harder then SFII ever was.
I played MvC2 before I ever played Alpha. I remember being so confused when I unlocked him, "Wait... there's a PINK Ryu/Ken/Akuma too?" But, in MvC2 at least, he has a move (with significantly better range than his fireball!) where he whips out a picture of his face, autographs it, and then chucks it at his opponent. That's... that's friggin' HILARIOUS. He was an instant favorite from then on. Still one of my favorite fighting game moves to this day.
What's funny is I remember hearing from Bafael that early Art of Fighting games had a bar that strengthened your projectiles. Since SF doesn't have that bar, his fireballs are always weak 😛
Art of Fighting had what you might call a stamina meter, or reverse super meter. You start the round at maximum power, then expend that energy to do special moves, with them becoming less effective as your meter depletes.
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Dan also become far more endearing when his relationship with other characters developed. He developed a strong bond with Sakura and Blanka, the latter especially is touching because he's one of the few people to call him by his original name Jimmy. Sure, he's a parody character but he's also all in good fun and a nice guy at the end of the day.
@Lost1Wuns MadenaMoe ...isn't SNK vs Capcom 2 a Capcom game?
@Lost1Wuns you right
@Lost1Wuns Capcom vs SNK 2 was made by Capcom, there's no SNK vs Capcom 2. The game made in that series that was made by SNK was SNK vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos.
It’s shame he isn’t a good teacher as well
The fact that sakura is like camcom's yuri makes their relationship even funnier
6:41 'No, revenge is not what my father would of wanted, revenge is not what I want.'
'I want something no one can give me'
'I want my father back'
...damn bro, especially for the joke character that is tragic....
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@@theonlybass8947 spot on
dude it says “would have” at your time stamp and you still fucked up and typed “would of”
It’s a shame this is never build on in a serious way. I know he is a clown but that is depressing af
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And then, when he was added to SFV, they ended up nerfing him because when it was discovered he had an infinite combo. Like, wow. From joke to the devs realizing they inadvertently made him break the game, it's the perfect way to to show how far he's come.
i love how they nerfed his infinite by buffing his fireball, which has a random chance to be a stronger fireball and knockdown the opponent, ruining the combo which requires a regular fireball. they made him worse by making him better
And even without the infinite, he was considered oen of the best characters upon his release
@@harrrieee not just that, they made him worse by making him less consistent. Just like how scrubs like me can’t consistently DP, this dweeb can’t even consistently do a fireball right
I think it is one of the best nerfs in fighting games ever, it makes perfect sense, it still gives the silly goofy character an infinite, and it's just a cool tool outside of the infinite
... and then , a player called Hi-Gadoken started to make Dan a serious threat in SFV .
The best part is that Capcom could one day continue Dan's parody nature by giving him an alternate form, ala Evil Ryu or Violent Ken. Personally, I'd go with "Serious Dan", to parody "Serious Mr. Karate" from SVC Chaos & KOF XIII. Have him don the tengu mask, make it simply godlike & powerful... But give him half the health of Akuma, who tends to have the lowest health to balance out his power; literally, make it so that a single combo of decent length, especially if a super ends it, can defeat "Serious Dan". In storyline, it could even be explained that, in the end, Dan becomes terrified of just how skilled & even deadly he can be, if he takes himself absolutely seriously, so he locks "Serious Dan" away forever, truly content with the man that he normally is.
Call him Mr. Saikyo. His taunts steal your meter, and his own moves become effective when his meter fills up.
This is actually a godlike idea and I love it with absolutely no biases based around loving most joke characters in games. But seriously, Serious Dan would actually be badass. I would buy SFV for Serious Dan. I would actually *play* SFV for Serious Dan.
Good news, everyone!
"Serious Dan" BWHAHAHAHAHAA!!
FUCKING love that idea!!🤣
Doesn't dan wear the tengu mask already in one his installments?
i like dan, he tries so hard and fails miserably, but he still keeps trying.
thats the true spirit of a martial artist
As long as you have the will to keep going and trying, you are a true master yourself.
Say what you will about Dan, but it’s undeniable that the man puts his heart into everything he does
My favourite thing about Dan is that outside of the world of street fighter, he’d be able to kick the ass of any real-life person on earth. It’s just that in a world of psycho powered gods and green monsters he’s way out of his league.
Like mr satan in dragon ball
As shown in a comic, where he took on an entire gang of nameless red shirts by himself.
Like a certain DBZ charletan
Personally I really loved what UDON done with him in one of vignette little stories. The whole comics is essentially Dan's pitch on why you should try Saikyo style, and in it Dan's showed to be very compassionate, he helps elderly, albeit sometimes suffers for it. I especially love his final words. "You can never truly be defeated because you already found the path to the strongest living! Defeat is nothing but a winter wind that blows bitter frost in the face of the beast, and with every loss you must laugh louder untill the wind fills the sky with your laughter! You will learn to defeat defeat! This is the way of Hibiki's Ultra Dojo!" It shows a character growth for him, like yeah he's arrogant but he's a fool with a heart of gold.
To bad it's not Canon
Damn never realized Kage had basically the same animations that's such a nice touch.
Both characters are going to be in the same game and it’s when Kage isn’t Evil Ryu.
Also notable is that Dan appears as a joke character in the Puyo-Puyo like spin off Super Puzzle Fighter. His garbage pattern is all one color, red. While clearing a large amount of one color can easily reverse Dan's attacks against him, if his opponent lacks the crucial piece to break all of that red it would probably make for a severely devastating and hilarious loss.
The creator of Street fighter 1 left Capcom to work at SNK which is why Ryo of Art of Fighting is similar to Ryu of Street Fighter.
So the creator of SF's Ryu and the creator of AoF's Ryo are the same person.
Yes, the Japanese Takashi Nishiyama, he worked at Capcom creating SF1, then at SNK creating Fatal Fury, AOF and KOF, then at Dimps (company created when SNK died) creating SF4 and many good games..😏
Takashi Nishiyama decided to go to SNK because they were working on a technology with more power where he could work on all his fabulous ideas and also he had more freedom to work in his own way, CAPCOM continued with the project started by Takashi Nishiyama and created SF2, unfortunately SNK suffered a delay in finishing their technology and Capcom launched SF2 before Fatal Fury, this is why Capcom had a greater impact in the West. This is how the whole battle between Capcom and SNK was born, where clearly SNK always led with innovation, since the genius behind this idea was working at SNK.
Interview with Takashi Nishiyama, Street Fighter and Fatal Fury creator.
(12-14-2011) Originally appeared in 1UP Presents www.culturaneogeo.com/imagenes/entrevistas/streeteng.htm
Glad somebody said this. Ryo isn’t actually a rip off. He’s what Ryu should have become if his original creator stayed with Capcom.
Yuri is SNK’s answer to Dan. Capcom said their mid boss can beat their main character. SNK answered by having Yuri, a beginner in Kyokugen Karate, able to perform Capcom’s deadliest techniques. Her moves constantly change.
Over time, she’s copied Sakura’s Shunpuukyaku and shououken, Ryu’s shin Shoryuken, Akuma’s Shungokusatsu, Terry’s burn knuckle for some reason, and some others I’m probably forgetting 😂.
In Capcom vs SNK, she and Dan have a special intro where they taunt at each other the same way.
@@YophiSmith Don't forget that SNK quite happily leaned into the parody by giving Dan his first iteration of Haoh Gadoken and a version of Ryo's Tenchi Haohken (that one-hit super with autoguard, except Dan's has slightly worse recovery thanks to breaking his hand and fixing it mid-match) as *regular special moves* in SvC Chaos.
Let's take an instant to remember that Bison DID offer Dan to join him, meaning that he have seen potential in him. The whole thing was there right from the start... xD
Dan it's the only one who learned how to throw fireballs like Gouken with only one hand so you could argue he had a lot of potential. So for me Dan's fight style is as strong as Gouken but is weak due to his training. I still love him, he will always have a spot on my personal roster for fun's sake and braging rights.
How he is now in terms of gameplay he powered up since SF4
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 I hope in sf6 (when ever that is) that dan is in the base roster and his fire ball can go half screen without charging, it would show that he is getting better and that he is training
Side note: I wish they kept Dan facing the screen when he did his dp in sf5 or at least when his in v trigger 2
@@sushiknight7013 I mean...In 5 it shows Dan has gotten Stronger. Hell, his super is now a V trigger. That shows he stronger.
In lore, he will always be weak. Honestly, him charging it is a good progression. The only characters who share that gimmick are Oni and Goken.
So imo how he is now is perfectly fine. Especially still keeping it tied to his overall Joke status.
Gouken is a trash teacher and person he basically sent Dan to his doom knowing full well he'd go after Sagat. He also has the Satsui No Hado which would've got worst if Sagat hadn't actually faked his loss and stomped Dan the Satsui No Hado would've activated and poof Akuma Jr.
Imagine Dan getting a full year of kyokugen-ryu training ...
Dan made it in SFV. Dan mains rise up
LET'S GO!!!!
You say that, and yet he's pretty damn good rn.
THATÇS THE POWER OF SAIKYO
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Well it has WAY more than that now, lol
@@orlanzo2621 I see now also holy fuck how has it been already a year, I thought I Commented this a month ago...
@@scruffles3838 Time flies man, lol.
Dan is actually quite a strong fighter. Compared to most people, he is a demigod. It just so happens that most, if not all of the people he happens to fight against are actual gods, and in the case of Ansatsuken users, titans. Hell, even Dan himself is in disbelief when he beats Oni in arcade mode, as seen in his win quote.
Wait, so Kage is basically just evil Dan?!
... That makes so much sense when you consider Kage's story mode.
Kage is the personification of Ansatsuken , and perhaps Dan would be that lethal if Gouken trained him properly .
Here's an observation this vid missed, the joke behind Dan's gadoken: Art of Fighting matches feature super bars that start of full in the match and decrease when you use specials and supers. When your bar is fully depleted, you can still use specials but they become shite versions of themselves. In the case of the fireball, a metered version does decent damage and goes full screen, a meter less version does no damage and appears as a spec of energy on Ryo's hand
So it turns into a fireball that hurts like a slap when you have no meter?
@@lucaswibisono1316 Yeah. You also can power up to fill your spirit gauge, and taunt your opponent to deplete theirs.
SNK turned Dan's joke into an entire gameplay trend by making everyone's projectiles fizzle just like Dan's from KOF 96 onwards, not until years later that everyone got their projectiles back by default without accessing alternate versions of them
Also , Dan's gadouken is pretty similar to kyokugen-ryu's ho'ohken .
I'm a big SF fan but I honestly didn't know much about Dan's creation outside of him being a joke character. Really good video!
Even though i love Dan-hibiki alot more than Vega or some pathetic characters of STF
Lol yeah FGC has ALWAYS been petty
@@bruceleeds7988?
@@Switcheroo4542 what? Don't you include fighting game CREATORS as part of the community to?
If you don’t know about Dans creation you’re NOT a street fighter fan
That’s like saying you’re a mario fan and didn’t know how Luigi got there
12:44 *Me, coming back from the recent SFV update:* HA.
Oh hell yeah, another reason to not take Kage seriously
Instead of Kage Ono should have just given us Dan or just regular evil Ryu or even try something different and give us Violent Ken. Kage is such a meeeeehhhh character
Barry Smith
Luckily for you and many others, Hibiki-san will be coming to Street Fighter 5 this winter.
Kage reminds me of a dog..or some other canine..idk why.
What are your other reasons...👀👀
@@feliz5919 fangs
Ooof, this presents the idea of Dan pretty much fully embracing the darkness and thus absorbing Kage into him. He'd be an even more dangerous and could be a dark "Who's Laughing Now" as he thrashes everyone
I'd love for them to evolve Dan as a character. This is a crazy idea but I want Dan to unlock the dark Hadou. Like maybe Dan unlocks the power of the Dark Hadou and now has a shitton of power behind him, but has no idea how the hell to use it. I just think it would be a really funny idea for Dan to all of a sudden be a threat, like this dude who's been a Joke all his life finally becomes a threat. It'd be cool I think, though I know others might no be on board.
That's basically Kage though...
That could absolutely work as long as they keep it as a joke & make it so that he still can't win due to clumsiness & arrogance. Basically taking that bit where he trips over the backpack while attempting the Shun Goku Satsu, and fleshing it out into a whole bit/concept. Maybe he could blow up a mountain, only for the rubble to fall onto him slapstick-style; that kind of stuff.
@@Harril8265 He already can in MVC2. BUT the major downside is he would only have 1HP left. No slapstick, just straight up 1HP left after using it
I think more plausible idea is that Ryu falls to its influence and soundly trounces everybody else who see him as unstoppable, frightening monster and that gets defeated by Dan who saw just another fighter and that is nothing he isn't unfamiliar with.
They already did that joke.
Dan's his own worst enemy but we all love him
And now he's coming to SFV a year from now lol
The old joke is that, if someone pulls out DAN in a tournament, it's a big power move, because it's them saying "I can kick your ass, with the WORST character".
dans such a good character
air taunting is such a funny idea that i think should be added to other fighting games
I'm still shocked Ganondorf never got an air taunt where he floats and laughs at your miserable attempts to defeat the King of Evil in any smash game. Seriously missed opportunity, even amidst the modding community :/
"Ridin' high!"
"Let's get airborne!"
Yahoo
@@Jardonius You must understand that Sakurai has a severe phobia of giving heavyweights functional tools
With this and Maxamillans dan legacy i was worried i missed Dan being announced for 5 lol
Edit: well holy shit. Now ill have to hound street fighter videos for stuff on Remy. See if we can summon him too.
Well dan the man now has made his return.
HE'S BAAAACK
If we wish hard enough, we can make Zubaz the last character for Smash!
Are we sure Kage isn't actually just Dan in really good makeup playing heel to Ryu?
Dan has been a personal favorite character for years, mostly because a joke at one's own expense is funny to everyone. the only person who gets hurt by it is the person telling the joke.
This was one of your best episodes. I was completely entertained the whole way through. Keep up the good work and don't falter.
Doctor: Mortal Kombat Dan doesn't exist, he can't hurt you
Mortal Kombat Dan: 12:18
Lmao
Dan is a beast now with hype combos in SFV.
Congrats on the new(?) episode release!
Only being Semi-Familiar with Street Fighter, I feel like Kage as described here would be an example of "accidental" world building. I don't really see Capcpom deliberately setting out to make their swell new character emulate a non-sucky Dan Hibiki, even in the era of "characters are functions". I don't think that invalidates the point, though. After all, some of my favorite bits of trivia to dwell on in games and stuff are the things the creators didn't necessarily mean but actualized by saying anyway.
Do you think it's too late for Dan to shine again? It's been a couple games since we've seen him, and I can't imagine there's much business sense in selling Dan as DLC...
I think the character is beloved enough that you could sell him as a bonus in a fighters pass quite easily. I feel like buying Dan individually is not enticing, but buying Dan in addition to several others, just for the sake of having Dan there and THEN the competitive characters, is very attractive. And Hell, there's so much Dan can do to parody modern fighting games, from carrying over mechanics from previous games to be "behind the times" (or even previous versions of SF) to having bad versions of other mechanics from other games (Dragon Rush, for instance, would be really easy to parody).
So worth the wait, I loved Dan from Street Fighter IV and myself and friends would quote him constantly (and still do) but I never knew his origins or that he delved into the darker side of SF lore. Absolutely hilarious. I want to see his Dad as a fighter one day.
Also Agumon or whoever that little dinosaur was seems completely OP and I love him.
Ryo Sakazaki is my favorite character so Dan is automatically my favorite Street Fighter character.
Great video just in time for Dan's triumphant return to Street Fighter (SFV DLC)!
The Cutscene at 15:54 with the slicked back ponytail hair and portly body. It gives me a Steven Seagal vibe.
Given how much Seagal loves himself, and how much both the acting and martial arts communities hate him for being a malicious blowhard, I wonder if the personalities and appearance of later Dans are also influenced by the aikido master.
I know this is a long video and all, but the reason Sagat threw the fight against Dan was because of Ryu. Sagat wanted revenge after losing, but he threw the fight to teach him the very lesson he would teach Dan. Sagat had some character development after realizing that the scar Ryu gave him was a result of the Satsui no Hadou's influence (a slight retcon from the original lore).
Yes , also said hatred costed him his "king of muay thai" title when he lost a fight against Adon . Once he get rid of his need for revenge , he defeated Adon without breaking a sweat .
Dan is the best Street Fighter character. Change my mind.
Great video by the way!
I will do no such thing, good sir/madam/miscellaneous. You are absolutely correct.
I’m watching this after Dan got announced for SFV. I’m so hyped.
Same yahoooo
If dan was given some pointers from ryu and some other other people in the street fighter universe he could probably be one of the most dangerous fighters
He did train under Gouken (trained Ryu and Ken and with Akuma) for a while. He was too angry to qualify for longer training. Scarier idea is that Akuma would approach Dan to teach him.
I easily relate to Dan, he first appeared in a game that was released the year I was born &, coincidentally, his fictional birth date is November 25. If you minus the 2 & 5 respectively by 1, you get November 14, the day I was born.
Dan is back in sfv and his super looks more amazing now.
2:13 Omg...one of Dan's lines is literally "i hate the art of fighting"
The second part of that quote is “But I wanna be the King or Fighters!” Not very subtle, Capcom
With his one hands gadokens, i would make it so that when spammed the move inputted, his comes out the fastest of all characters but go the pituful distance the go in dan, but when charged a bit, they come as proper projectiles, perhaps to add that like an anti-spamming tool and to imply that Dan actually putting effort and seriousness to his moves, they go well.
Since in KoF the fireball deplete the special bar until empty, here is it that dan has to wait a lil bit so that he has enough energy to throw proper fireballs.
I think it's also worth pointing out that in Sakura Ganbaru and other Street Fighter comics, it's established that Dan is a strong enough martial artist to handle standard mooks and basic practitioners. It's only when he's up against standard SF characters that are obscenely tough that he ends up the woeful figure we've come to know and love
Its funny to see this video today because dan is in sf5 now
You know, I just thought about it for a bit... Street Fighter IV legitimately gave Dan a Dream Cancel (or as best as they could with the game's systems). That's amazing.
Of course, now that Street Fighter V actually *added* Dan as its first Season 5 character, he winds up getting a legitimate infinite that they wound up patching out... by randomly making his fireball *stronger* when used. Think about that for a second: he's able to keep an opponent immobilized for ~100 hits (SF5 handles infinite combos by making an opponent fall in a spinning animation after hit #100, though you can cancel into a CA on hit 99, and it will connect fully) precisely *because* he's so weak by proxy, that a stronger attack actually breaks it up.
I love that in SF4 all his best tools are his own unique stuff and all his bad tools are his attempts to ape the shoto moves
Yeah I kind of thought that he could actually pull off the Raging demon in some of the games
What an amazing video. I'm a long time Dan fan, I never really thought of it as in depth as you have, you've given me an even greater appreciation of one of my favourite video game characters. Keep doing amazing work!
Dan is actually my favorite character in the entire Street Fighter series.. he's like the handicap version of Ryu and Ken..
Ok, someone hear me out on this idea.
5th Marvel vs Capcom, Dan returns as a playable character but a second version is a hidden playable character and it's just Dan but he gets powers via some stupid reason, steals an Iron Man Suit, or a mutant gene awakens within him, something, and it's just Dan but he has actual powers and adapts it into his own new fighting style (which is dubbed by him as "Neo Saikyo Style" to become semi-competent, but still a joke character at the end of the day.
Maybe if he has powers or a mutant gene, perhaps he gets some stupid mostly harmless power at first glance, but can be used to fight in a very awkward and unconventional way. I'm also thinking something that fits his last name being Hibiki meaning "resonance" or "echo" in Japanese.
Edit: Better idea, he sneaks into S.H.I.E.L.D. and steals a bunch of equipment from the various Avengers, like one of the arm and legs of an Iron Man suit, Cap's Shield, Spider-Man's web shooters, Thor's hammer (which he can somehow lift), you get the idea, and tries to use the Special Attacks of the heroes but in his own Dan way that turns the move into something else. Like Dan's Gadoken is fired with the web shooter and it turns into a burning web fireball that is no stronger than the average Hadoken and doesn't even web up the opponent like Spider-Man's does.
It's just Dan making a fool of himself and trying to emulate the heroes but failing, it's perfect for Dan.
Make it happen Capcom, I'd throw money at that.
4:28 that’s one of the best censors I’ve seen
Ryo is not a rip off of Ryu, he is a homage to Ryu and ken. You can’t really rip off your own creations (the director of SF ‘87 went to SNK and started making games for them, including Art of Fighting.)
exactly, its such a shame how many people take these stuff in the wrong way
I can assure you that if Dan ever returns as a DLC mentor for SF6, everyone and their mothers will beg to use the Saikyo-Ryu fighting style for the privilege of using the legendary taunt with their created character.
I got a Saikyo Ryu Online ad during this video and I'm like WTF
12:26 “at least ur not one of those people who say their eye color changes based on their mood” lmao💀💀
I might have named my firstborn after Dan.
I m sorry the snk character's are more charismatic, and Dan is not to bad in Sf game, I like it😀😅🤣
@Lost1Wuns and more satisfying. I like how some supers and even normal moves (clark, Mary blue) include an extra move for variation
And Snk's Dan from SvC is better than Capcom's Dan. (Until Sf4 Dan, but then it's unfair to compare to a very older 2d game. Snk never made a 3d SvC)
Dan has now not only made it into SF5, he has an infinite!!
*EDIT:* HAD an infinite...
Yup , but he still dangerous ... just watch Moruto playing with him .
Takashi Nishiyama, co-creator of Street Fighter and creator of Art of Fighting, designed both Ryu and Ryo if I'm not mistaken.
Check out this other character called
MAKOTO MIZOGUCHI , he is literally
A bootleg ryu .
@Far from Evolution
True but
Move wise the only time he does
The real uppercut in his jinsei special
And all they did was replace the theme
Of dragon with tiger.
He normally uses his elbow instead of
His actual fist for the shoeyuken move.
His version of the hurricane kick
Inspired dan hibiki hurricane kick
Who is more likely based on ryo sakazaki.
@@Lupo32 It's ridiculous to censor another fg if the char has a fireball and an uppercut move. All 2d fg's have fireball and uppercuts, for God's sake... That means Capcom would take everybody else's right to use fireballs and uppercuts in their games (actually everything else that is in Sf2, but here im focusing on those two moves).
Imagine what would have been of the gaming scene if every company that invented a gaming genre back then was capable of denying everybody else of using some of those ideas.
@@carlosaugusto9821
Snk makes kyo ,iori,terry bogard
Have embers or sparks for fire balls .
And 2 guys that left capcom for snk
Now I cannot unsee Kage as Dan, but DAMN that really opened my eyes that Dan uses the full potential of the Ansatsuken, but the problem is that he's not a good fighter by design and thanks to his goofy and care free attitude he ain't getting to the top. Irony here though in story he can beat up thugs and unknown nameless fighters, SEAN on the other hand gets beaten by nameless and unknown fighters in his storyline, so was Sean made to make Dan look good kinda? Who knows...
Kage...
Shadow Ryu
[BGM: I'll Face Myself]
I think Dan is quite similar to Ryu. Both struggle with their shadow (Jungian sense) and while Ryu suppresses his shadow Dan has encountered it. Ryu imagines light while Dan has awakened darkness. So basically all manipulations and schemes Akuma tries to employ towards Ryu are ineffective towards Dan and that makes him so much stronger. And they both defeated Sagat and it had strong effect on them. Ryu saw his shadow and got frightened by it while Dan saw it and accepted it as part of his self.
Sean is an amateur who tries to copy Ken's fighting style pretty much Sakura did with Ryu's .
But unlike Sakura , Sean isn't a prodigy ...
And unlike Dan , he didn't had a master to teach him ...
4:28 Damn it, Sakurai!!!
10:11 We get it, Sakurai...
God damn it!!
wanna know the ultimate joke ? Dan will be top tier in a couple of years at this evolution pace.
Did you miss his having a literal *infinite* in SF5?
Though not into SF, i would love to see a future fighter to be his Dad, Go hibiki, as a sort of Flashback fighter perhaps, or one that through simulations is "sort of" real?
(him facing dan would be SuPER awkward)
While Dan is a clown, bulking up your body like that is no easy feat.
Ryo originally had a longer range fireball and he had a jumping fireball. I don't know why they took it away from him
"What an idiot, who uses one hand to peform a hadoken?"
Akuma, Shin Akuma, Evil Ryu(MVC, his Super), Gouken(SF4) approach you while SFA3's Groan(Shin Akuma's theme) plays..
Another cool thing about Dan is that, as much as a joke as he is in Street Fighter, he is legitimately a very strong and skilled guy. I mean, come on, he's ripped, legitimately knows how to kick and throw a punch, can jump and roll around and keep going like nobody's business, and can even throw fireballs out of his hands! In any other more grounded setting he would be a superpowered individual. But nope, he's in Street Fighter, and he is surrounded by people who are leagues more impressive than him at what he does, and ends up looking like a joke compared to all of them.
Dan is in Street Fighter 5 now.
"he is the perfect joke character"
Sandbag from super smash flash 2: am i serious to you
Nicely done! Entertaining and informative.
Smashisforgoodboysangirls
Alpha 3 Dan is actually not the worst. A lot of his standing normals have good priorities and range. His supers can be combo'ed and serve as anti air.
Alpha 3 Guile is worse than Dan.
Dan not only works well as a parody of his and SNK's own series, but also as a real life parody of all those phony karate dojos that kept springing up in the 70's and 80's.
Update this video! Dan became AWESOME.
It's also funny because SNK made Yuri into essentially an Akuma clone as Akumas air fireballs were first thought up in art of fighting which slightly predates street fighter 2 turbo
Dan Hibiki, the greatest Street Fighter of all time.
At least in his mind.
Why does no one mention that Go Hibiki is associated with Tengu masks, another reference to Takuma "Mr. Karate" Sakazaki? I'm seriously surprised you mentioned the Cyber Akuma thing but not the Tengu masks
This reference appears on SvC Chaos . When Dan meets Mr. Karate , he gets confused at first then ask the man in front of him if he is his father .
Even if he is canonically the weakest Street Fighter, dude's still ripped and muscular.
Something like comparing Captain America to Superman. Dan is Captain America and everybody else is Superman.
Dan about to kamikaze himself
I guess you could say he...DANikazes?
Thanks for explaining the Lore of dan A lot of people don’t understand Street fighter has some Very complex characters you just have to look deep into it
This now beg an update with his appearance finally on SFV.
*I need to know what that chicken fighting game is*
Mace: The Dark Age.
@@DesigningFor Thank you, you have given me *another reason to **_live_*
Really good video. Clicked for giggles, stayed for the content all the way to the end. Excellent job!
Dan is the greatest joke character, and what SNK did in SvC Chaos was beautiful, with the GADOU SHO KOUKEN and the other animations (Joe Higashi and Yuri Sakazaki) of him mocking the opponents...
The special intro of him vs Yuri in CvS and CvS2 are amazing just because of that alone...
In SvC Chaos , he's constantly mistaken for Robert .
Oddly , when used as a striker on KOF 00 , there's a version of Robert who wears a white gi and black tank top , pretty much resembling Dan's costume .
I wish you would have gone more into the rivalry between Capcom and SNK because I think that context adds a lot to Dan's charm. For instance, Art of Fighting was actually developed by the same individuals that created the original Street Fighter, and the two companies exchanged a lot of staff over the 90s and 2000s. SNK themselves also shot back at Capcom numerous times in their own ways (for example, Ryo's fireball being changed to be short ranged like Dan's, except actually powerful), but it was always good natured and playful fun between friends/colleagues. Dan could almost be singlehandedly credited with the entire existence of the SNK vs Capcom crossovers, and I think that's an awesome legacy to have. Not unlike how Akuma could be credited for the existence of Marvel vs Capcom due to his X-Men guest appearance.
He actually also has a Tekken reference in SF5, inputting a dp and pressing the punch button at the same time you finish the motion you get an electric wind god fist
Great vid!
Dan Hibiki is the best Parody character Capcom has made so far.
Dan Hibiki, BACK AFTER THE ULTIMATE IMPROVEMENT
Cool video, but I think they glossed over the fact that Dan is basically made up of Ryo's body with Robert's head. They only mentioned he has a similar "facial structure" to Robert but didn't say he has the exact same Steven Seagal inspired pony tail. Also, one handed fire balls aren't a joke, Gouken is the master and that's how he does it. Dan is simply trying to run before he can walk.
The author, who seemed to want to take a side, if anything at least to play along Dan's theme, portrayed Ryo and AOF with a negative tone, even including innacuracies (cant say if malicious or not).
First, Ryo originally - thus the only reference avaliable for Capcom at the time - had a normal long distance fireball. His fireball however doesnt come out when his energy bar is low. That's the same for everybody's fireball in the game.
It happens that Capcom apparently wanted to make fun of Ryo's low energy fireball... Only one instance. It's just a different game system. But Ryo's fireball normally is like Ryu's - except it's stronger and can be thrown in the air. So he does more than Ryu and doesnt need to use two hands. And when he uses both hands, it's to throw a huge one.
Now there is the fact that his projectile was changed in Kof 96 onwards. But it came after Dan. It's another matter.
But the author made it sound like Ryo has a shit fireball in AOF and then Capcom is making fun of that, and he presented that to an audience that is expected to be very ignorant about Snk. And the desire to mock Ryo made him overlook the fact, as you said, that Gouken also has one hand fireballs. Meaning that Ryo's "normal" is close to what only Gouken does in the SF world. But i guess the guy wouldnt feel like giving that message to an audience that is expected to have the same bias. It's prohibited not to badmouth Snk.
SFV Dan is finally legit
I think my favorite layer to Dan’s joke is actually the way his moveset is designed. A running theme through the years has been that the moves Dan takes from the other Shotos are typically not great, but his limited amount of unique tools are extremely good. This ranges from stuff like his SF5 V-Skill taunts being able to do combos not normally possible to the extremes of SF4 Dan Kicks being one the single best moves in the whole game. This has lead to an idea that Saikyo Style actually is incredibly powerful, but because Dan is so obsessed with trying to master the Ansetsuken he doesn’t realize this, and he actively hampers his own fighting style by trying to copy Ken and Ryu. But despite this he does show signs of growth in 5, both in him finding new ways to use taunts in combat with the afformentioned V-Skills, but also that one of his V-Triggers is his old fireball ultra from SF4, but now it doesn’t send him flying on his butt anymore.
One details that people miss about Dan is his name. Andy Bogard from Fatal Fury (another SNK game) has a move called Shoryudan. The move get's it name from the same idea as the Shoryuken.
Shoryuken=Rising Dragon Fist
Shoryudan=Rising Dragon Circle
Hi name meaning circle is also likely why he has so many rolling related moves.
Well I don't know if anybody know about this but the same guy who made street fighter 2 made Ryo also sooooo yeah, like after parting with capcom he joined snk to make the art of fighting (and I think the king of the king of fighters but not sure about it) .
He's now coming to Street Fighter 5
Love Dan. There’s something inspiring about picking an underdog joke character and succeeding against the odds with them.
Watched the whole entire video. Awesome work vidmaker! Bravo
Ryu and Ryo were created by the same person, Takashi Nishiyama. He didn't rip himself off. Also Art of Fighting is about 100 times harder then SFII ever was.
Just because the same guy made both characters, it doesn't negate the FACT he ripped himself off
@@bruceleeds7988 hahah but at least ryo and robert has better story than ken and ryu also snk character has more charismatic than capcom character
@@ameernurhaqeem9738 should do, they were created 5 years later
1. It's a ripoff on a company level.
2. What the hell does game difficulty have to do with anything here?
I played MvC2 before I ever played Alpha. I remember being so confused when I unlocked him, "Wait... there's a PINK Ryu/Ken/Akuma too?" But, in MvC2 at least, he has a move (with significantly better range than his fireball!) where he whips out a picture of his face, autographs it, and then chucks it at his opponent. That's... that's friggin' HILARIOUS. He was an instant favorite from then on. Still one of my favorite fighting game moves to this day.
What's funny is I remember hearing from Bafael that early Art of Fighting games had a bar that strengthened your projectiles. Since SF doesn't have that bar, his fireballs are always weak 😛
Art of Fighting had what you might call a stamina meter, or reverse super meter. You start the round at maximum power, then expend that energy to do special moves, with them becoming less effective as your meter depletes.
You didnt either understand what the guy explained, or he explained badly. Either way the comment falls apart because the Aof system isnt like that.