The only things I enjoy more than video game retrospectives are sweet drink combos and of age, alive, cis-gendered, consenting, non-related…alive…human…women. TMDWU
The problem with being an old school conspiracy theory is they used to be so outlandish they were fun because they probably weren't true, these days conspiracy theories just feel like tomorrow's news today
2:00:00 You can actually save Malik in the sequence after the plane is shot down, if you stay and defend her. This is also possible without killing anyone, but this is fairly difficult from what I remember.
This was one of my favorite scenarios in DX-HR, although it likely had a lot to do with my mental state at the time I first played it. I had been playing for a long time by the time I got to this situation and I was in kind of a surreal altered state of mind. I felt like I was literally in the movie Black Hawk Down. The fact that I nailed it on the first attempt was a pretty nice high. Later play throughs didn't really give me the same sense of immersion, but it still remains one of the best experiences I had in the game.
Saving her is easy, I did it on my first run through but doing it while trying not to kill anyone is pretty hard. That first run I was _avoiding_ killing but went weapons free when surrounded by nothing but soldiers. For some reason killing to protect someone else was much easier than killing to protect myself.
Horrible news, Embracer Group has cancelled Development of the new Deus Ex game that Eidos was working on for 2+ years last week and laid off 97 people. I just found out. I'am so bummed right now, I didn't ask for this...
Mankind Divided has got to be one of my all times favourite singleplayer games ever. Story was meh but the gameplay, immersion and world building was just.... WOW!
I can't believe you let Malek die. :/ Never leave someone behind! I remember saving her while doing a ghost/no detection run and that was one of the hardest things I've ever had to do. I'm really just joshin' ya - it's not like saving her changes much at all, sadly. To quote Hbomb about Deus: HR: "it's ok." Looooved the original, though - one of those games that stays installed forever.
Sad news but Embracer very stupidly cancelled any and all Deus Ex titles, Adam's voice actor Elias also confirmed to be saying goodbye to the character because the company told him to not talk about Adam anymore, Mankind Divided has ALOT of cut content, half the story was pitched in favor of a third entry. The Garm facility was more involved and London itself was a whole hub world like Golem and Prague, When playing through though did you catch the "Adam might be a clone" conspiracy, it's the biggest conspiracy in the DE series and now we might not ever know or get an ending to Jensen's story. It's only 30 years away from the original game, and Embracer is just a company of money grubbing idiots, i have grown to hate Tomb Riader because they are the reason so many classic series got cancelled, Legacy of Kain could have gotten a sequel but they wanted to focus on Tomb Raider, we could have gotten a new Deus Ex but once again they wanted to focus on Tomb Raider, seems to be a pattern there.
@Gray Fox ciuld do with getting up to date on his infomation.. did he not get the memo that the so called cv19 conspiracy theory and "ramblings" were proven correct
This is a solid video man. MD is such a dense sandbox map it amazes me. I been playing this game for years at this point and like you I still feel like I haven't found everything or done things in the right order. I hope on the next one the developers do better with the side quest story lines. I found many that didn't end up ending or mattering, also found info on characters that I could never bring up
The original Deus Ex is the greatest game I ever played. I recently played through Alien Isolation and the openness of the level design reminded me a lot of Deus Ex.
I thoroughly enjoyed Invisible War as I have played it in a vacuum. Being a kid, I picked this game up at a garage sale. Intrigued by the somewhat typical "Cool guy pointing a tilted gun at you" box art. Playing it through and through was certainly a different experience that captivated my 11 y-o self. Having played other Deus Ex games now, it certainly is a step down and I'd advise playing IW before the first one. Even with the lack of context, going from IW to 1 really opens everything up.
It's funny, when I started playing Deus Ex Human Revolution I didn't know what I was getting into, such a great game, immediately I began playing Deus Ex the first one, Invisible War and then replay Human Revolution, such a fun time I had, it blew me away that I could do a full playthrough without been seen, then in 2021 I finally could play Mankind Divided, uff amazing game, a little short story wise but great gameplay and world, I was yet again blown up by the fact that you can just deactivate the HUD elements and smoothly play the game without any problems because of the missions where implemented in such a cool way that even the NPCs tell you exactly where you need to go or look without needing the map or a marker showing you the way, it immersed me in such a way that I was really impressed, I really wish more game do something like that more often.
i cant help but notice your voice feels softer in this upload than previous ones. as someone who finds these videos comforting, i absolutely adore it and appreciate it so much. thank you, son, for all your hard work. i'm proud to be your dad ❤️
Great work man. On point for pretty much everything. My only gripe (if we can even call it that) was that I thought certain "events" probably deserved a bit more attention. Now I know this is probably due to everyone's individual experiences with the games, and that what may have been special to me, will not be in any way remarkable to someone else. Also I guess that elaborating on certain things on TH-cam is not always wise. My number one example was from MD when re-visiting the train station. Witnessing the tranquil aftermath of a large-scale terrorist attack and soaking up all the little details was utterfly fascinating and horrific to to me. Like the bodybags, some of which were smaller than the others.. Hard stuff but brutally honest. Shit I'm blogging again.. great work dude, 10/10
Human Revolution's artwork is pure Ghost in the Shell (the movies) aesthetic. At different points, one can find elements of Armitage III, Magazine 23, Bubblegum Crisis, and Battle Angel Alita. This may also be an issue of rhizotomy, where traits are shared between representatives of the source genre (anime), making what looks like an Armitage III reference actually turn out to be an Iczer 3 reference instead.
Love the retrospective videos. There is one thing whenever I see people discuss Human Revolution that always seems to overlooked. It's an easy to miss side quest, and it delves into Adam's origins, and relationship with another character. I feel it was, at one point supposed to be much bigger to the entire franchise. Maybe I', the one that's wrong and I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill. But, it's there, and they make some reference to it in Mankind Divided, so IDK.
There is, actually, another game in the series; Project Snowblind by Crystal Dynamics, released for both PC and PS2. It's original title was Deus Ex: Clan Wars but the developers took it in another direction and renamed it. I still, personally, include it as part of the DE franchise, set between The Conspiracy and Invisible War. If you ever decide to play it, I think you'll see why. Cheers!
Holy Shit! Deus Ex has a tutorial? Luckily I did not knew anything about tutorial back in those days. Nothing can replace Deus Ex as a blind experience. So many options, so many ways, so many things to learn.
Remember I was blown away with the twist :-) Didn't expect it haha. I tried the demo back in the days, but hated the shooting mechanics compared to quake2/3, cs, half-life. Tried last year and the game blew me away. Also add the conspiracy theory that somewhat predicted the future, and the game is a gem.
One major thing you didn't mention was how Deus Ex reacted to what you did. You can kill the terrorist leader at the top of the statue of liberty and soldiers will mention it to you, you can go in guns blazing and kill people in the train station and people will comment on it being a bloodbath, you can kill Agent Navarre before you're "supposed to" and Alex will immediately pop up reacting to what you just did. you can kill Gunther by using his kill switch word..all these things were what made me play the game through multiple times 20 years ago. It felt like your actions mattered and very few other RPG games I've played since has made me feel like that.
I remeber playing this game and it was so much diffrent than any other game back in the day. I was addicted and all my friends thought I was crazy because they didn't have a pc good enough to play it they missed out.
Literally just found you, and you're already one of my favorite reviewers, your voice over is phenomenal! And i love that you keep an open mind throughout even if you dislike certain things. Keep it up man!
This series is great, retrospectives are so fun. I love Deus Ex, I wish we could get another one, with way more customization and crazy conspiracy stories.
I'm going to be honest, when it comes to narrative, the newer games are pretty shallow and infantile compared to the first game, it went from using the cyberpunk setting as backdrop for a commentary about the nature of power, control and its incentives, intermingled with real life references, to "what if some people really hated augmentations, whoa" kind of reminds me of the original Fallout games vs the newer ones by Bethesda, where the narrative is way more surface level, making the aesthetics of the setting the main theme instead of the backdrop for other deeper questions. However the art design of the newer Deus Ex games are pretty stellar, the art team knocked it out of the park, and the gameplay team also did a genuine effort to introduce new interesting dynamics.
Great video. I still have yet to play Invisible War so I skipped that portion of your video. Couple of notes, which I'm sure u know but haven't mentioned. At 36:00, you can enter the prison cell with Walton and ask the prisoners questions and they have some very interesting dialogue. At 2:01:35 you can save Malik if you dispatch of the enemies before they destroy her vertibird. I remember playing DE:HR about a month after release. Was in a shop deciding between this or Warhammer 40K Space Marine. I'm glad I chose DE although Space Marine is great game as well. It was my intro into the Deus Ex franchise and what a great one. Spent playing it for a week straight when I was too "sick" for school. To this day I completed Deus Ex and DE:HR about 7 times with different play styles each. Love the GMDX mod for Deus Ex as well, has some nice gameplay changes and it still fits in the game.
Surprised you didn't mention the "Jenson died at Panchaea and you play as a clone" fan theory It's a little Indoctrination Theory/Jar Jar is a Sith Lord theory. But man does it work and make the game cooler. *Spoilers ahead* You find of Adam Jenson's body in a pod in Versalife vault. Sarrif confirms the Augs were not place by him. Someone dragged Adam out of the sea and put new augs in him for som reason. Adam has messed up memory and there are logs and side quests about memory transfers. The game is called "Mankind DIVIDED" and the menu is two Adam Jensons looking at each other It's a cool interpretation that Adam Jenson died, and the dude in MD is a clone with his implanted memories . Diving deeper into "What is life, Who are you? What is human?" questions of the series Sadly this never went anywhere since there was no sequel so no one knows if it was a legit plot thread or just fan rambling, but it was so coool
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER The only actual reason for someone to go for the orchid and not to save the religious nutcase daughter is to see one amazing easter egg that explains a lot about Jensen, the illuminaty and why they watch him so closely to have a member of them is at TF21 with him, the psychiatrist .........drum roll..... because he is a clone of Jensen, the Jensen we met at DXHR died in Panchea, the reason that he has blurred memories is because he isn't the same person for the memories to make any cohesion, which explains why the augments were installed without him noticing it, he never experienced himself with them. He is watched so closely because he is an agent of the illuminaty without him knowing it, which also explains why they have some level of trust that he will see (by himself or by force) things their way. There are a few videos on youtube about it and how to see the 1 sec easter egg. To anyone who went at the versalife vault, his body was inside one of the cryogenic coffins (the top one at the corner, use smart vision to see half a body, from chest and up) and you can only see it by throwing a grenade (either emp or stun, it doesn't matter which as long as you have the upgrades to not be harmed by them) while you are recording ideally, to actually see it and pause when it happens...
My favorite game franchise of all time. The original Deus Ex was one of the most thought-provoking games I'd ever played. Thought Invisible War was ok, though flawed. LOVED Human Revolution. Liked Mankind Divided a ton, though the abrupt ending caught me off-guard. Apparently, a new Deus Ex game is in very early development stages. Definitely looking forward to it! Adam Jensen deserves a worthy send-off.
I first played invisible war on my xbox and loved it. I didn't play the original till about 20 years later on a pc playing the original no mods the old graphics and all.. I could see why it was heralded as one of the greatest games ever made. It stands up to time better than just about any game De that time period. It's the greatest immersive sim ever made.. Its one of the greatest games ever made. It made me feel almost silly for loving the sequel such as a kid bit it was the deus ex I had, and I enjoyed it a lot. Played it a lot. Loved the fact you could take so many different paths/choices. But the first, was the deus ex I nevever knew I needed. It was perfect. I mean it looked poor, it had clunky controls, it was a little janky.. But still just so perfect it's so hard to explain to someone who hasn't experienced the original deus ex.. Just PLAY IT. it's a masterpiece!
All the tired and uninspired video essays i put up with on TH-cam because i want to know more about the source material, all those wasted moments of listening to superflous nonsense You’ve singlehandedly redeemed this video essay shit as a medium for me my nigga, im only about 30 minutes in but this video is a masterpiece not one word minced, not one moment where i felt you were bordering on repeating yourself ad nauseaum for shekels of ad revenue. Genuinely, bravo gang. Liked, followed, subscribed.
I'm a first time viewer here, and you certainly know how to communicate your thoughts in a clean & coherent manner. Pretty dope essay. You have that parry rizz. liked & subscribed.
I think that the conflict of Mankind Divided should not have been one of racism, but a conflict between the working non augmented classes and the one percenter more privileged augmented classes. I think it would be a great way of talking about the ever widening division of classes in our current society, and how technology like augmentations could serve for that division. Of course, not all augmented people were rich, nor all non augmented people poor, but the Incident could have served as a warning for the working class for what happens when the rich handle such a delicate technology like augmentation without any kind of control.
Shoutout for the 2 Hong Kong bartender conversations for connecting the philosophical threads started early with the NSF Commander on Liberty Island, Juan Lebedev on the plane, and continued later with Morpheus.
If one thing is for sure the first Dues ex game will never get a remake, a game with such a story calling could never be made in today's climate. Everything from calling out the Rothschilds to the government making a virus and controlling the cure, hell even the woman's bathroom scene would have to get cut.
2:23:47 Wait. You're saying Christmas ornaments are NOT supposed to explode, right? ... Hmm ... I need to make a quick phone call. No reason in particular, QUIT ASKING!
When the COVID pandemic was starting to be a great concern, I was imagining how the world would changed based on Deus Ex I've been playing a few rounds in 2000.
I personally love MD, and the aug segregation I feel is actually a good plot device because it touches on themes of real segregation and systemic racism and not the made up stuff people think is segregation and systemic racism.
It’s unfortunate, but I think this series is creatively and narratively dead. It began as a kind of conspiracy theory simulator, but those ”theories” have since largely become reality. It’s a topic no large corporation is going to touch with a ten foot pole, meaning the series’ foundation is off limits. What can a sequel or reboot even do in this day and age?
it's cannon that malik lives (you can save her when it's shot down and there's an easter egg in DXMKD where she leaves a little heli in your cereal box)
Mankind Divided is a good game but it almost feels like the corrupt media, goverments and corporations took hold od the Deus Ex franchise and toned it down so it wouldn't draw attention to their shady business. It has nowhere near the social critique that Human Revolution did, not to mention the original from 1999.
>Mankind Divided is a good game but it almost feels like the corrupt media, goverments and corporations took hold od the Deus Ex franchise and toned it down so it wouldn't draw attention to their shady business. what does that even mean? care to elaborate?
In human revolution. You said they dont take conspiracy theories seriously. I kind of disagree. I think the real breakdown of conspiracy theories that made the game way too real and messed with my head was in the computers. If you pay attention to the messages from the bottem to the top it exposes how suddle large conspiracy theories are. Its not about telling people to say something. But rather finding people who believe what you want them to say. Or are fine with saying anything
No one's ever said it's perfect dude, the games visuals was dated even for 2000 and the combat was very clunky, still a masterpiece though, for every other reeason
I haven't attempted playing Deus Ex much recently. I tried the Revision mod or whatever exactly it's called. It's generally run very well for me over the years, especially after getting the Steam digital version. The mod was brutal. If you can see the enemy, you have to assume they can see you, to the point they can see at least halfway across liberty island, to the point they could often see me before I saw them.
1:09:15: "we don't have to wait for the reticle to focus in on a target, we can just shoot" - that's a DOWNGRADE. the reticle part was a feature, shooting without focusing meant less accuracy. focusing increased your accuracy. DUH 1:11:40: "venturing through the city" - you mean through the narrow corridors...
This needs to be said: it's Simons, not Simmons. It's pronounced SAI-MINS, not SIH-MINS. Also, Aquinas is AH-KWAI-NIS, not AH-KEE-NAS. Both are verbally mentioned multiple times in game.
Although I consider Mankind Divided as the best part in series gameplay-wise, my favourite is Human Revolution with no doubt due to aesthetics (I really enjoyed this yellow paint), great NPCs (Pritchard, Elizaz Sarif) and entire neatly tailored plot. Imho a masterpiece, even though I did not particularly like the very ending with "zombies".
Oh boy, does that embracer group getting the rights to the Deus ex IP news coming as a 'ray of hope' hit differently in early 2024. I feel like Deus ex fans, we are in for another long, hard winter of waiting for someone to own this IP. Someone that's actually going to be able to do something good with it because it seems very unlikely embracer group is going to be in a position to do so anytime soon.
I wish you had played through on a different patched up Deus Ex. Give Me Deus Ex or GMDX is probably by far the most true to form and modernly approachable patch of the game. Give it a shot if you're itching to re-live the experience :)
Never played the first cause I was late to the series but I gave it a try when PS3 was still popular. I went blind and it was amazing. Now I have mankind divided and I am loving it so far
Of all the sons I have, you highlighting the brilliance of this game series makes you my very favourite. I'm just gonna duck out for some cigarettes real quick, I'll brb.
I Saved Malek on my 3rd playthrough with the pacifist+stealth achievement simultaneously. Let me tell you. Thats why you " Save/Horde " Items in an RPG . But since its real time my Aim and movement was at Peak Performance. It only took about 800 attempts . Most lasting 4 seconds if i screw3d up .
25:00 You’re so spot on about how conspiracy theories went from an enjoyable genre to an unrecognizable lifestyle. I was the same consuming media that was conspiracy laced in the early day and enjoying it then flash forward to jan6th and realizing how close u could have been to being led there through some conspiracy bread crumbs u gullibly followed.
Every single turn of the century miracle rpg comes down to the design document. All the characters, the lore, the mechanics, everything fully detailed and distributed to the team before code. Waren is amazing I follow him on LinkedIn, but its crazy how much of his games can be credited to pen to paper.
It's the same reason why Tim Cain has a had a popular resurgence. Anyone who knows how to make games from a piece of paper are seen as magicians compared to the live service feature creep garbage most publishers peddle today.
Considering the state Embracer Group is in, we will be glad if Eidos won´t get shut down. It´s quite insane over there. But if, by some miracle, we get continuation and maybe even conclusion of Adam Jensen´s story.. That day will be a wonderful day.
Oooh boy now I know what I'm gonna do next friday after a long week at work with some snacks by my side on the sofa. Already listened to each video at work with audio only. Do you see your viewers more listening or watching these videos? Just wondering if thats something you take into account when making these videos.
@@YourFavoriteSon1 I listen to them. Either at work or when going to sleep. Your pace and cadence work pretty great for helping me get to sleep while engaging my brain so I'm not just reliving everything that happened throughout the day or week
Hey Dad, how do you feel about the Deus Ex Series? 😎😎
The only things I enjoy more than video game retrospectives are sweet drink combos and of age, alive, cis-gendered, consenting, non-related…alive…human…women. TMDWU
@@drfrankendoodle TMDWU toobz
What about the Gay of Sex series
Awesome possum. X]
Love it son. Just like how I love you, son.
Getting into the original deus ex story around the time of covid starting was a wild experience to say the least.
Shit man you're telling me I revisited it during COVID while taking LSD regularly and I can't recommend it (enough?)
Played it for the first time during COVID.
@@newusernamehere4772 omg you're wild for that idk if I could stand how *Y E L L O W* the last two are xD
I forgot a lot about the game and played it again in the middle of covid lockdowns, was eerie honestly.
@New Username Here I played senuas sacrifice while tripping on shrooms. I beat it in one sitting, couldn't possibly recommend it more lol
The problem with being an old school conspiracy theory is they used to be so outlandish they were fun because they probably weren't true, these days conspiracy theories just feel like tomorrow's news today
I know what you mean
It’s because they label uncomfortable truths, conspiracy theory now where is before? It literally was insane conspiracy theories.
2:00:00 You can actually save Malik in the sequence after the plane is shot down, if you stay and defend her. This is also possible without killing anyone, but this is fairly difficult from what I remember.
Make sure you have at least the tranq rifle, cloaking aug, and a bunch of gas and EMP grenades. A stun gun wouldn't hurt either.
This was one of my favorite scenarios in DX-HR, although it likely had a lot to do with my mental state at the time I first played it. I had been playing for a long time by the time I got to this situation and I was in kind of a surreal altered state of mind. I felt like I was literally in the movie Black Hawk Down. The fact that I nailed it on the first attempt was a pretty nice high. Later play throughs didn't really give me the same sense of immersion, but it still remains one of the best experiences I had in the game.
Saving her is easy, I did it on my first run through but doing it while trying not to kill anyone is pretty hard. That first run I was _avoiding_ killing but went weapons free when surrounded by nothing but soldiers. For some reason killing to protect someone else was much easier than killing to protect myself.
It's also Canon, there's a little cutscene in Mankind Divided that tells one that.
Is this time stamp right?
Oh okay a bit after 2:01:34
Yeah weird how he brushed over that part. Lmao
I love this series, it’s probably my favorite in all of gaming. I hope Eidos gets to finish Jensen’s story.
Horrible news, Embracer Group has cancelled Development of the new Deus Ex game that Eidos was working on for 2+ years last week and laid off 97 people.
I just found out.
I'am so bummed right now, I didn't ask for this...
Mankind Divided has got to be one of my all times favourite singleplayer games ever. Story was meh but the gameplay, immersion and world building was just.... WOW!
I liked the story but I probably would have liked it even more if the game’s length was longer
I can't believe you let Malek die. :/ Never leave someone behind! I remember saving her while doing a ghost/no detection run and that was one of the hardest things I've ever had to do. I'm really just joshin' ya - it's not like saving her changes much at all, sadly. To quote Hbomb about Deus: HR: "it's ok." Looooved the original, though - one of those games that stays installed forever.
Yes! I had to abandon my ghost/no kills playstile just to save her!
Letting Malek die is not canon. There is Easter egg in MD where you can find a sweet note from her in Jensen’s apartment 🤓
@@yakovradloffAdam would never leave her to die.
Sad news but Embracer very stupidly cancelled any and all Deus Ex titles, Adam's voice actor Elias also confirmed to be saying goodbye to the character because the company told him to not talk about Adam anymore, Mankind Divided has ALOT of cut content, half the story was pitched in favor of a third entry. The Garm facility was more involved and London itself was a whole hub world like Golem and Prague, When playing through though did you catch the "Adam might be a clone" conspiracy, it's the biggest conspiracy in the DE series and now we might not ever know or get an ending to Jensen's story. It's only 30 years away from the original game, and Embracer is just a company of money grubbing idiots, i have grown to hate Tomb Riader because they are the reason so many classic series got cancelled, Legacy of Kain could have gotten a sequel but they wanted to focus on Tomb Raider, we could have gotten a new Deus Ex but once again they wanted to focus on Tomb Raider, seems to be a pattern there.
Deus Ex was cancelled for the avengers game as service flop
This man has became my favorite reviewer. Good stuff dude!
Glad that I could be your favorite!
Father
@Gray Fox ciuld do with getting up to date on his infomation.. did he not get the memo that the so called cv19 conspiracy theory and "ramblings" were proven correct
This is a solid video man. MD is such a dense sandbox map it amazes me. I been playing this game for years at this point and like you I still feel like I haven't found everything or done things in the right order. I hope on the next one the developers do better with the side quest story lines. I found many that didn't end up ending or mattering, also found info on characters that I could never bring up
yea i dont think theres gonna be one
@@28br there were news that new game is in really early development
The original Deus Ex is the greatest game I ever played. I recently played through Alien Isolation and the openness of the level design reminded me a lot of Deus Ex.
It's really nothing g like deus ex at all but aight
I loved the original Deus Ex- what a game.
@@oh-not-the-bees7872 it's not, but their gameplay style is the same. they are both immersive sims
@@blurryvision942ot really. Alien Isolation is more of a survival horror game. Both good games but nothing alike
@@blurryvision942 I've never heard of anyone calling Alien Isolation an Immersive Sim.
Deus Ex is one of the best games ever made. Excited to dive into this video!
It's amazing
They have to make a final one.
We are so close before the
Big Plague, earthquake and MJ12 takeover mentioned in the first one
I thoroughly enjoyed Invisible War as I have played it in a vacuum. Being a kid, I picked this game up at a garage sale. Intrigued by the somewhat typical "Cool guy pointing a tilted gun at you" box art. Playing it through and through was certainly a different experience that captivated my 11 y-o self. Having played other Deus Ex games now, it certainly is a step down and I'd advise playing IW before the first one. Even with the lack of context, going from IW to 1 really opens everything up.
The original Deus Ex was quite prophetic whether intentionally or by accident
It's funny, when I started playing Deus Ex Human Revolution I didn't know what I was getting into, such a great game, immediately I began playing Deus Ex the first one, Invisible War and then replay Human Revolution, such a fun time I had, it blew me away that I could do a full playthrough without been seen, then in 2021 I finally could play Mankind Divided, uff amazing game, a little short story wise but great gameplay and world, I was yet again blown up by the fact that you can just deactivate the HUD elements and smoothly play the game without any problems because of the missions where implemented in such a cool way that even the NPCs tell you exactly where you need to go or look without needing the map or a marker showing you the way, it immersed me in such a way that I was really impressed, I really wish more game do something like that more often.
This video always randomly plays for me after I’m done watching my queue
i cant help but notice your voice feels softer in this upload than previous ones. as someone who finds these videos comforting, i absolutely adore it and appreciate it so much. thank you, son, for all your hard work. i'm proud to be your dad ❤️
Great work man. On point for pretty much everything. My only gripe (if we can even call it that) was that I thought certain "events" probably deserved a bit more attention. Now I know this is probably due to everyone's individual experiences with the games, and that what may have been special to me, will not be in any way remarkable to someone else. Also I guess that elaborating on certain things on TH-cam is not always wise. My number one example was from MD when re-visiting the train station. Witnessing the tranquil aftermath of a large-scale terrorist attack and soaking up all the little details was utterfly fascinating and horrific to to me. Like the bodybags, some of which were smaller than the others.. Hard stuff but brutally honest. Shit I'm blogging again.. great work dude, 10/10
I could watch these retrospectives all day seriously, they put together so masterfully🫡
Human Revolution's artwork is pure Ghost in the Shell (the movies) aesthetic. At different points, one can find elements of Armitage III, Magazine 23, Bubblegum Crisis, and Battle Angel Alita. This may also be an issue of rhizotomy, where traits are shared between representatives of the source genre (anime), making what looks like an Armitage III reference actually turn out to be an Iczer 3 reference instead.
Man. I freaking love this channel. I love your voice, the way you talk about stuff, the fact that you do long retrospectives. New favorite channel
Love the retrospective videos. There is one thing whenever I see people discuss Human Revolution that always seems to overlooked. It's an easy to miss side quest, and it delves into Adam's origins, and relationship with another character. I feel it was, at one point supposed to be much bigger to the entire franchise. Maybe I', the one that's wrong and I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill. But, it's there, and they make some reference to it in Mankind Divided, so IDK.
There is, actually, another game in the series; Project Snowblind by Crystal Dynamics, released for both PC and PS2. It's original title was Deus Ex: Clan Wars but the developers took it in another direction and renamed it. I still, personally, include it as part of the DE franchise, set between The Conspiracy and Invisible War. If you ever decide to play it, I think you'll see why.
Cheers!
Holy Shit! Deus Ex has a tutorial? Luckily I did not knew anything about tutorial back in those days. Nothing can replace Deus Ex as a blind experience. So many options, so many ways, so many things to learn.
This is a great video. Proud of you, son. Can’t wait to show the guys at work.
Hope you enjoy!
Remember I was blown away with the twist :-) Didn't expect it haha. I tried the demo back in the days, but hated the shooting mechanics compared to quake2/3, cs, half-life. Tried last year and the game blew me away. Also add the conspiracy theory that somewhat predicted the future, and the game is a gem.
One major thing you didn't mention was how Deus Ex reacted to what you did. You can kill the terrorist leader at the top of the statue of liberty and soldiers will mention it to you, you can go in guns blazing and kill people in the train station and people will comment on it being a bloodbath, you can kill Agent Navarre before you're "supposed to" and Alex will immediately pop up reacting to what you just did. you can kill Gunther by using his kill switch word..all these things were what made me play the game through multiple times 20 years ago. It felt like your actions mattered and very few other RPG games I've played since has made me feel like that.
I remeber playing this game and it was so much diffrent than any other game back in the day. I was addicted and all my friends thought I was crazy because they didn't have a pc good enough to play it they missed out.
FYI you can save your pilot, Malik. She doesn’t have to die. It’s tough and you have to be fast but she doesn’t have to die.
Literally just found you, and you're already one of my favorite reviewers, your voice over is phenomenal! And i love that you keep an open mind throughout even if you dislike certain things. Keep it up man!
This series is great, retrospectives are so fun. I love Deus Ex, I wish we could get another one, with way more customization and crazy conspiracy stories.
Someday
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I'm going to be honest, when it comes to narrative, the newer games are pretty shallow and infantile compared to the first game, it went from using the cyberpunk setting as backdrop for a commentary about the nature of power, control and its incentives, intermingled with real life references, to "what if some people really hated augmentations, whoa" kind of reminds me of the original Fallout games vs the newer ones by Bethesda, where the narrative is way more surface level, making the aesthetics of the setting the main theme instead of the backdrop for other deeper questions. However the art design of the newer Deus Ex games are pretty stellar, the art team knocked it out of the park, and the gameplay team also did a genuine effort to introduce new interesting dynamics.
Mankind Divided was good. I wish it were more than half of a game.
Mankind divided is my favorite video game of all time, but I did wish did they would have done a lot more for this game
Great video. I still have yet to play Invisible War so I skipped that portion of your video. Couple of notes, which I'm sure u know but haven't mentioned.
At 36:00, you can enter the prison cell with Walton and ask the prisoners questions and they have some very interesting dialogue.
At 2:01:35 you can save Malik if you dispatch of the enemies before they destroy her vertibird.
I remember playing DE:HR about a month after release. Was in a shop deciding between this or Warhammer 40K Space Marine. I'm glad I chose DE although Space Marine is great game as well. It was my intro into the Deus Ex franchise and what a great one. Spent playing it for a week straight when I was too "sick" for school. To this day I completed Deus Ex and DE:HR about 7 times with different play styles each. Love the GMDX mod for Deus Ex as well, has some nice gameplay changes and it still fits in the game.
Surprised you didn't mention the "Jenson died at Panchaea and you play as a clone" fan theory
It's a little Indoctrination Theory/Jar Jar is a Sith Lord theory. But man does it work and make the game cooler.
*Spoilers ahead*
You find of Adam Jenson's body in a pod in Versalife vault.
Sarrif confirms the Augs were not place by him. Someone dragged Adam out of the sea and put new augs in him for som reason.
Adam has messed up memory and there are logs and side quests about memory transfers.
The game is called "Mankind DIVIDED" and the menu is two Adam Jensons looking at each other
It's a cool interpretation that Adam Jenson died, and the dude in MD is a clone with his implanted memories . Diving deeper into "What is life, Who are you? What is human?" questions of the series
Sadly this never went anywhere since there was no sequel so no one knows if it was a legit plot thread or just fan rambling, but it was so coool
The Dvali gang were not a Czech gang in-game, they were Georgian
Deus ex HR is one of my top 3 games I played in my life! It blew me away.
I have been binging a lot of deus ex retrospectives, so another one is very welcoming
You didnt save Malk? you monster
'Our ship is shot down, and Malick is killed in the process'
Not if you're any kind of man
Another sonday, another sonny day.
And an early happy nowrouz son.
Happy Sonday!
Invisible war was my first deus Ex and I fell in love with the series ever since, started when I was maybe 10
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER
The only actual reason for someone to go for the orchid and not to save the religious nutcase daughter is to see one amazing easter egg that explains a lot about Jensen, the illuminaty and why they watch him so closely to have a member of them is at TF21 with him, the psychiatrist .........drum roll..... because he is a clone of Jensen, the Jensen we met at DXHR died in Panchea, the reason that he has blurred memories is because he isn't the same person for the memories to make any cohesion, which explains why the augments were installed without him noticing it, he never experienced himself with them. He is watched so closely because he is an agent of the illuminaty without him knowing it, which also explains why they have some level of trust that he will see (by himself or by force) things their way.
There are a few videos on youtube about it and how to see the 1 sec easter egg. To anyone who went at the versalife vault, his body was inside one of the cryogenic coffins (the top one at the corner, use smart vision to see half a body, from chest and up) and you can only see it by throwing a grenade (either emp or stun, it doesn't matter which as long as you have the upgrades to not be harmed by them) while you are recording ideally, to actually see it and pause when it happens...
Whoa. Cool
I didn't ask for this...
But I'm so glad that I got it.
My favorite game franchise of all time. The original Deus Ex was one of the most thought-provoking games I'd ever played. Thought Invisible War was ok, though flawed. LOVED Human Revolution. Liked Mankind Divided a ton, though the abrupt ending caught me off-guard. Apparently, a new Deus Ex game is in very early development stages. Definitely looking forward to it! Adam Jensen deserves a worthy send-off.
I first played invisible war on my xbox and loved it. I didn't play the original till about 20 years later on a pc playing the original no mods the old graphics and all.. I could see why it was heralded as one of the greatest games ever made. It stands up to time better than just about any game De that time period. It's the greatest immersive sim ever made.. Its one of the greatest games ever made. It made me feel almost silly for loving the sequel such as a kid bit it was the deus ex I had, and I enjoyed it a lot. Played it a lot. Loved the fact you could take so many different paths/choices. But the first, was the deus ex I nevever knew I needed. It was perfect. I mean it looked poor, it had clunky controls, it was a little janky.. But still just so perfect it's so hard to explain to someone who hasn't experienced the original deus ex.. Just PLAY IT. it's a masterpiece!
All the tired and uninspired video essays i put up with on TH-cam because i want to know more about the source material, all those wasted moments of listening to superflous nonsense
You’ve singlehandedly redeemed this video essay shit as a medium for me my nigga, im only about 30 minutes in but this video is a masterpiece not one word minced, not one moment where i felt you were bordering on repeating yourself ad nauseaum for shekels of ad revenue. Genuinely, bravo gang. Liked, followed, subscribed.
Love your series what's your next retrospective series you covering?
Will be doing some one-off games next!
I'm a first time viewer here, and you certainly know how to communicate your thoughts in a clean & coherent manner. Pretty dope essay. You have that parry rizz. liked & subscribed.
I’m mostly unfamiliar with the game, but familiar with your content so I’m looking forward to this.
Hope you enjoy the video!
Hey thanks
Well it took some time but I did very much enjoy it. Kind of a sad story of what may have been.
I think that the conflict of Mankind Divided should not have been one of racism, but a conflict between the working non augmented classes and the one percenter more privileged augmented classes. I think it would be a great way of talking about the ever widening division of classes in our current society, and how technology like augmentations could serve for that division. Of course, not all augmented people were rich, nor all non augmented people poor, but the Incident could have served as a warning for the working class for what happens when the rich handle such a delicate technology like augmentation without any kind of control.
Was it about racism? What was the race? I always thought jt was about augmented vs. flesh
In the middle of Mankind Divided right now.
Hope you enjoy the video!
Getting knocked out while saving Paul isn't scripted only happens if you fail scripted fail event is later at the subway
Just waiting for that 1 last entry that bridges the gap between Mankind Divided & the first game.
Hopefully someday
Shoutout for the 2 Hong Kong bartender conversations for connecting the philosophical threads started early with the NSF Commander on Liberty Island, Juan Lebedev on the plane, and continued later with Morpheus.
If one thing is for sure the first Dues ex game will never get a remake, a game with such a story calling could never be made in today's climate.
Everything from calling out the Rothschilds to the government making a virus and controlling the cure, hell even the woman's bathroom scene would have to get cut.
2:23:47 Wait. You're saying Christmas ornaments are NOT supposed to explode, right? ... Hmm ... I need to make a quick phone call. No reason in particular, QUIT ASKING!
When the COVID pandemic was starting to be a great concern, I was imagining how the world would changed based on Deus Ex I've been playing a few rounds in 2000.
I personally love MD, and the aug segregation I feel is actually a good plot device because it touches on themes of real segregation and systemic racism and not the made up stuff people think is segregation and systemic racism.
Real
Fun Fact: The Silhouette from Deus Ex 1 are the same group as Samizdat from Mankind Divided
the no twin towers in deus ex is pretty creepy you gotta admit
It’s unfortunate, but I think this series is creatively and narratively dead. It began as a kind of conspiracy theory simulator, but those ”theories” have since largely become reality. It’s a topic no large corporation is going to touch with a ten foot pole, meaning the series’ foundation is off limits. What can a sequel or reboot even do in this day and age?
"It began as a kind of conspiracy theory simulator, but those ”theories” have since largely become reality."
Wait till you read Marx.
it's cannon that malik lives (you can save her when it's shot down and there's an easter egg in DXMKD where she leaves a little heli in your cereal box)
"Soul" I'm loving the simple word to describe this esoteric feeling in these works!
Mankind Divided is a good game but it almost feels like the corrupt media, goverments and corporations took hold od the Deus Ex franchise and toned it down so it wouldn't draw attention to their shady business.
It has nowhere near the social critique that Human Revolution did, not to mention the original from 1999.
>Mankind Divided is a good game but it almost feels like the corrupt media, goverments and corporations took hold od the Deus Ex franchise and toned it down so it wouldn't draw attention to their shady business.
what does that even mean? care to elaborate?
In human revolution. You said they dont take conspiracy theories seriously. I kind of disagree. I think the real breakdown of conspiracy theories that made the game way too real and messed with my head was in the computers. If you pay attention to the messages from the bottem to the top it exposes how suddle large conspiracy theories are. Its not about telling people to say something. But rather finding people who believe what you want them to say. Or are fine with saying anything
ughh thank you... I have to do my Diploma thesis, but first I might watch a retrospective.
and probably replay Deus Ex :D
No one's ever said it's perfect dude, the games visuals was dated even for 2000 and the combat was very clunky, still a masterpiece though, for every other reeason
I haven't attempted playing Deus Ex much recently. I tried the Revision mod or whatever exactly it's called. It's generally run very well for me over the years, especially after getting the Steam digital version.
The mod was brutal. If you can see the enemy, you have to assume they can see you, to the point they can see at least halfway across liberty island, to the point they could often see me before I saw them.
my man do be dropping nothing but the highest quality content
tommy tallarico's music is amazing in this
Man i can't believe this is my son.
Dad is proud, buddy!
Your shirt is so fire 🙏🏽🙏🏽 loved unforgivable back in the day lol
Based
1:09:15: "we don't have to wait for the reticle to focus in on a target, we can just shoot" - that's a DOWNGRADE.
the reticle part was a feature, shooting without focusing meant less accuracy. focusing increased your accuracy. DUH
1:11:40: "venturing through the city" - you mean through the narrow corridors...
Good work Son! Hope to see Metal Gear covered in a future retrospective.
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Damn, Son.
I'm proud of you. Great video as always.
This needs to be said: it's Simons, not Simmons. It's pronounced SAI-MINS, not SIH-MINS. Also, Aquinas is AH-KWAI-NIS, not AH-KEE-NAS. Both are verbally mentioned multiple times in game.
Love your reviews man. Top notch. Cheers from Brazil!
I've only played the last two games and adored Human Revolution. By far one of my favorite games.
Although I consider Mankind Divided as the best part in series gameplay-wise, my favourite is Human Revolution with no doubt due to aesthetics (I really enjoyed this yellow paint), great NPCs (Pritchard, Elizaz Sarif) and entire neatly tailored plot. Imho a masterpiece, even though I did not particularly like the very ending with "zombies".
this really gets my interest in the Dues Ex franchise. Thanks, son
Oh boy, does that embracer group getting the rights to the Deus ex IP news coming as a 'ray of hope' hit differently in early 2024. I feel like Deus ex fans, we are in for another long, hard winter of waiting for someone to own this IP. Someone that's actually going to be able to do something good with it because it seems very unlikely embracer group is going to be in a position to do so anytime soon.
I wish you had played through on a different patched up Deus Ex. Give Me Deus Ex or GMDX is probably by far the most true to form and modernly approachable patch of the game. Give it a shot if you're itching to re-live the experience :)
Oh hell yeah. Good work son.
Thanks Dad
Never played the first cause I was late to the series but I gave it a try when PS3 was still popular. I went blind and it was amazing. Now I have mankind divided and I am loving it so far
Of all the sons I have, you highlighting the brilliance of this game series makes you my very favourite. I'm just gonna duck out for some cigarettes real quick, I'll brb.
Yeah i need them to rebuild the original game today but with new conspiracy theories. All the original ones already came true
It would get shut down for sure
@@minimmats Victimhood through the roof.
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You're adorable, as someone who loves this series I appreciate these.
I never asked for this retrospective.
I Saved Malek on my 3rd playthrough with the pacifist+stealth achievement simultaneously.
Let me tell you.
Thats why you " Save/Horde " Items in an RPG .
But since its real time my Aim and movement was at Peak Performance.
It only took about 800 attempts .
Most lasting 4 seconds if i screw3d up .
25:00 You’re so spot on about how conspiracy theories went from an enjoyable genre to an unrecognizable lifestyle. I was the same consuming media that was conspiracy laced in the early day and enjoying it then flash forward to jan6th and realizing how close u could have been to being led there through some conspiracy bread crumbs u gullibly followed.
We really need a second coming of old school game development
Every single turn of the century miracle rpg comes down to the design document. All the characters, the lore, the mechanics, everything fully detailed and distributed to the team before code.
Waren is amazing I follow him on LinkedIn, but its crazy how much of his games can be credited to pen to paper.
It's the same reason why Tim Cain has a had a popular resurgence.
Anyone who knows how to make games from a piece of paper are seen as magicians compared to the live service feature creep garbage most publishers peddle today.
Considering the state Embracer Group is in, we will be glad if Eidos won´t get shut down. It´s quite insane over there. But if, by some miracle, we get continuation and maybe even conclusion of Adam Jensen´s story.. That day will be a wonderful day.
Man Tim Rogers is so influential on this community of video game talk abouters.
They all sound like they're biting that. heckle bonkers flow
WHA!?! There are no gay frogs in Deus EX HR, imagine my disappointment..
"Deus Ex is a series" I cannot agree more
Oooh boy now I know what I'm gonna do next friday after a long week at work with some snacks by my side on the sofa. Already listened to each video at work with audio only.
Do you see your viewers more listening or watching these videos? Just wondering if thats something you take into account when making these videos.
That's a good question, but honestly I'm not sure. I do know a ton of people listen to the videos in a podcast format.
@@YourFavoriteSon1 you have good voice/audio balance for pure audiobooks if you ever want to do "smaller" projects. Keep it up son, i'm proud of you.
I actually have done audiobooks before, it's what I did before youtube!
@@YourFavoriteSon1 I listen to them. Either at work or when going to sleep. Your pace and cadence work pretty great for helping me get to sleep while engaging my brain so I'm not just reliving everything that happened throughout the day or week
Love these videos!