Happy New Year! Thank you for this channel and these transmission videos to come. I am 1 year new into the Promaster family with my 2021 3500 ext (Coachmen RV, original owner, sold as a 2022, 10k mi) I find all of your content to be very valuable and really appreciate all you do!
Happy New Year Kip! Thanks for making these videos and sharing your knowledge! I have two 2014 Promaster 1500 for my business and you have helped me so much to be able to do mechanical repairs and service.
Thanks Kip! Fortunately, I haven't had any issues with my 2019 PM (*knock on wood*) but it's super helpful having this knowledge you so generously are putting out there for us. I live 2500 miles from your shop but if my travels ever take me out that way, I will definitely make a service appointment. Happy New Year!
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Anyone have this van? How’s it be so far? Looking at a 2015 with 95km but want to know what I’m getting into first before buying it? How’s yall experience with them?
Great! I’ll be watching this for sure! My van pretty much was off the road for 11/2 years while I turned it into a full time rv and did notice a weird sound if I started off in the lower gears and I had to accelerate very slowly to avoid that… But after a 1000+ mile drive to Florida it did get better… still there but not like it was , I think new filter and trans oil change will help..
Surprisingly, we don't see that one that often. Most of the transmission stuff we get is either P0740 for the converter (rarely anything BUT the converter) or a cluster of pressure and solenoid codes that's usually a rebuild. If you type "62TE solenoid pack testing" you'll find a motorcity mechanic video that lays out how to test the pack, and once I determine the pack is good I'm kind of out of options. My knowledge doesn't go deep enough to know EXACTLY what's behind each code/symptom, so we are forced to recommend a rebuild. Like, even if I condemn the compounder, it's almost as much work to swap the compounder out that it is to do the whole rebuild. It pisses me off too, because I would prefer to know exactly what's wrong and exactly what will fix it, regardless of a rebuild.
So helpful! I have 2022 with “lifetime fluid”. Any new sub parts with this 9 speed or video still accurate for that as well. I’m told it’s more expensive and involved for trans service. Should I still have serviced every 100k miles? I’m an expeditor. Thx so much!
Knowledge is power I’ll definitely be watching the whole series on the tranny 🤔😬 ah transmission series I hope you had a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Happy New Year Kip, I discovered your ProMasters Only Channel about 6 weeks ago and binge watched every video. It's good and I appreciate it, thanks On a different topic, I saw in one video the Oxilam LED H7 replacements and immediately ordered a set for high and low beam. They are definitely an improvement and easy install. Then, in the wee hours of the morning I attempted to align the headlight pattern and I'm at a bit of a loss. Seems I can move the hot spot of the high beam lamps easily, but the low beam pattern doesn't seem to move, maybe some part of the focus mechanism is broken, or my eyes are deceiving me, or just a lack of understanding. Maybe a future video could speak to headlight alignment if you think there's interest. Thanks again.
It's kind of a black art. There's an adjusting screw at the bottom of the headlight housing that adjusts it side to side, so you can point it inboard or outboard. But the mechanism that adjusts the vertical height has never seemed to work right for me. I end up adjusting it by shimming the headlight bucket 3 bolts with washers. Luckily, you get it right once and it never wanders.
Maybe it's my bad luck, but buying the 2014 Promaster 1500 was the worst mistake I have ever made, I bought it, because I had a 2000 Ram 2500 for 15 years and never gave me any major troubles, so Ram was good on my mind, boy I was wrong . iI was with close to 90k when I bought it, at 124k the oil and the cooling fluid got somehow mixed for a plastic piece that cools the oil and cooling fluid broke (or so the technician said) 4000.00 repair bill, at 135k the back engine support that attaches to the transmission broke and the engine fell off, about a couple inches off the floor 3500.00 repair bill. At 154k the engine fell off again but this time the nuts that hold the engine support split braking transmission casing forcing me to replace the transmission with an used one for 3000.00 plus another 1200.00 labor. It cost me more on repairs than the purchase price, changing my perception of Rams forever.
I cant blame you for feeling that way. That trans mount breakage is truly oddball, never seen that or anything like it happen. It wont make you feel better, but ANY vehicle can turn into a money pit. Long ago, I bought a 1977 benz diesel wagon, supposedly the most durable car ever made. LEAST reliable vehicle I’ve ever owned.
Used Promaster van listings have " Limited Slip Differential" in the ad. I have also seen "Posi Traction". Have also seen ESP and ATC listed. Your explanation would be appreciated. Thanks for another informative video.
Technically, all vehicles have limited slip, just a question of how limited. Posi traction refers to Chevy's brand name for a limited slip. Broadly, limited slip is for drag racers and off-roaders. It isn't going to matter for a van, and in fact would be fairly dangerous in snow and ice.
Hi! Just got a P0868 code, the mechanic shop I went to did an oil transmission change, and replaced the filter and the gasket around the pan! The following day the code pop up again! Now he is recommending me to change the whole transmission! We are talking about a Ram Promaster 1500 2014, with 219000 miles on it! At 207000 miles I've replaced the engine!
This can be a tricky one, but either it needs a trans pump or a torque converter or both. But it does NOT need an entire rebuild, although you may want to because getting to the pump and converter is somewhat expensive. I have a video on this channel on the transmission pump that you should watch.
Happy New Year from Seattle Kip. Always looking for more info on my 2018 Promaster. Put a Dorman pan on my trans with a drain plug. Currently changing fluid every 30 K and filter and fluid every 60K. Any issues with increased frequency?
You rock! I am looking to buy a ProMaster 1500 now. What is the difference btw the 1500, 2500 & 3500 engines and transmissions? Ty for your great teaching.
Exactly nothing. 2014-early 2022 are identical down to the last nut and bolt. All ratings, all lengths, all heights. Zero difference between any of them. Search my videos for "stubby van" for an explanation. However, avoid the diesel option at all costs - nightmare.
Hi, this is a great channel - thanks for going to all the effort to put these videos together. Is the 2022 Promaster 9 speed similar to the old 6 speed?
Not really, though all automatics are relatively similar. I havent laid hands on the 9 yet, so I dont know much. Will take a couple years before we start seeing them in the shop.
Thanks for the great explanation. I been experiencing a brief grinding sound while the Cruise Control is on in my 2022 Travato, whether I'm using it or not. Sounds like I'm shifting a standard transmission and missing the gear. On occasion when the CC is actually in use maintaining the set speed, it will briefly "Grind" and disengage the CC, even on flat, normal highway driving at speeds of 60-70 mph (No bumps, high winds, etc). Any thoughts? Thanks.
Yes. When there is a problem with the traction control, the computer will disable the cruise control. So if I had to guess, you've got some issue with the wheel speed sensors, most likely in one of the front wheels. Perhaps one is grinding or otherwise jacking up the sensor, and that trips the traction/stability control and the cruise kicks off. If it's not that, I would watch my video on flexplate inspection. It would be damn rare, but it's possible that could do that. Not too hard to rule it out by inspecting it.
thanks! this channel makes me almost WANT to buy a van with a ticking engine and lumpy rear tires if it means I can negotiate like 4000 off of asking or something. Saw a Promaster on FB marketplace with 700K miles so I know if I get one around 100K it an have a lot of life left after replacing those rockers.
@@promastersonly1419 they are asking 15,000. current engine has 200K on it. it's a159" WB I think also the ext. I'm curious as to what you think about that pricing since I'm a buyer in the next 12 months haha. all I know is DEALERS want a LOT for ~50K-80K mile vans; from 28K to 35K asking.
@@kalef1234 So what I have in the pipeline is one of my vans. 2014 2500 long wheelbase high roof NON extended. 531k. Still in service right now as an expeditor, but I'm wanting to get out of that business as the shop is monopolizing 60 hours a week of my time already. Mid to late spring, I was going to put a new/used bulletproofed in it, and have the transmission rebuilt whether it needs it or not (it doesn't, but 531 is pushing it). Clean it up and make it cosmetically nice. I figure with a new engine and transmission, and some kind of warranty from me, the mileage wont matter to the outside-the-box thinking buyer. I was going to ask $17.5 for it. Any interest? To an extent, we can build to suit. It's the van in the 3.2 swap video - I'll be removing the 3.2 and going back to a 3.6 of course.
@@promastersonly1419 not a bad price in current lingering but high market; esp for a rebuilt transmission and engine it would be ready to go. But I can't say when I would buy, just started looking around. I'm in VA but am actually shopping around here AND around Akron because it would be dope to take a potential van to you for a look over before buying. How did the 3.2 work out? I'm curious if it had better fuel economy.
@@kalef1234 no worries. 3.2 was mostly fail. Noticeably less power in normal driving, and same mpg as the 3.6. Thus, the only advantage of a 3.2 is the low buy in price.
Great info. I have a automated manual 3500 ecodiesel 3.0. It went into limpmode after rough downshifting. I was told that the control module maybe bad, but I don't see that in your diagram. Is that the same as the solenoid pack?
This is a question about my 2014 136wb, 3/4ton diesel with the hybrid manual trans. Is the godaweful incredibly slow shift from 1st to 2nd gear just something im stuck with or can it be fixed with a software or hardware kit? Can a shift kit be installed without removing tranny pissible? Its sl bad that for the first week i frove it, i thought it was stalling out in the middle of the intersection when it shifted from 1st to 2nd. It was so slow to shift, people would get frustrated being behind me and would quickly drive around me. The rest of the shifts dont bother me, but off the line, its absolutely horribke to have this thing bog down and shift so slowly.
I don't do anything with the diesel, particularly with the transmission. But I know the one guy in the country who does. He runs a shop in Florida. Email him at hellraisertrans@outlook.com. Name is Charles.
Very well could be, but they make a pretty distinctive noise when they crack. Type into youtube "broken flexplate sounds Chrysler Town and Country" and you'll find a video by Online Mechanic tips that does a good job of recording the sound, and shows you how to slide under and inspect the flexplate. If that's not it, there is another test you can do to see if it's the "pentastar tick". Cut open a well used oil filter, and see if there's glitter inside. A little is normal, but it will be obvious if there's a lot.
I wanted to thank you for the videos. By the way, the transmission of my Promaster looks very similar to my friend's VW Routan. Do they use the same transmission?
Is this applicable to the 3.0L 4cyl engine as well? I have a 2014 2500 promaster. I've been having a hard time finding information on this vehicle and a mechanic just told me I don't have a pan
The diesel is a very different animal, especially the transmission. It’s basically a manual transmission, shifted by robotics. I honestly dont know a lot about it, but i know that almost nothing about the gas transmission applies.
Good stuff! I have a 23 pro master 3500 Winnebago Solis. What transmission type do I have? Thanks. Can’t wait to subscribe and see the other transmissions vids! Very helpful
All the 2014-2021 are identical, all weights and lengths. The 22-up have a slightly different engine and very different transmission, both of which appear to be slightly more reliable.
hello ! I purchased a 2015 promaster 1500 last year, 2nd hand, and had 140k on it. has about 155k now. have noticed that sometimes after coming to a stop, the transmission wont shift from 1st to second unless I let off the gas, and also 2nd to 3rd . no rhyme or reason , just when it wants to. what is the first 1 or 2 things to look at ?
Absent any codes, the first thing I would look at is the rear transmission mount, the one under it in the rear. After that, I'd take a good look at the fluid level and condition. But without a code, the only other thing to look at is data in the computer called "actual line pressure". This is the pressure coming off the transmission pump. That will take a semi-pro scanner to read, but any shop should be able to read it in 2 minutes. That will tell you a lot about where to go next.
Unknown. I haven't laid hands on a 2022-up Promaster yet with the revised engine or new transmission. I expect the new 9 speed will be less serviceable than the 62TE, but that doesn't mean it's a bad transmission. Been in production for 6 or 7 years in other Chryslers, so I expect the bugs to be worked out.
I’m preparing to do my first transmission service on my 2021 ProMaster and want to put in the Dorman pan with a drain plug just in case I want to do a fluid change without dropping the pan in the future. Dorman says their part 265-833 only fits through model year 2019 and doesn’t seem to offer a lower pan option for the 2021. I’m sure my van has the same 62TE as a 2019 and not the newer transmission in 2022/23 models. Do you know of any reason why the same part wouldn’t work or why there’s a break in applicable years for the pan between 2019 and 2020?
Dorman does that sometimes - their application charts lag sometimes. Likely, they designed that pan in 2019 and just haven't gotten around to updating the year range. It'll fit.
@@promastersonly1419 thanks Kip! I’ve also noticed many different part numbers (68218057AC, AB, etc.) for the Mopar MS-9602 spec oil you recommend for the transmission. Most of these seem like superseding part numbers for what I assume is the exact same oil, but do you see any differences or advantage in using the latest version of this oil?
The truth is any ATF+4 would probably work fine, but I'm timid about experimenting, because I KNOW Mopar brand works. I buy it from Summit Racing and they have a good price. I also happen to know that O'reilly's sells a Valvoline brand that meets 9602. As to the AC, that suffix is the most current, but I have no idea why it would ever have changed or been superceeded. @@olivierhecht8022
Hi, thx for these awesome videos! My 2016 promaster started shifting to N while I was on D stopped at a stoplight on my way to work today. Took many restart to get it locked on D, it happened again on my way home. Is it a gear shifter issue? please shed some light. Thx
Could be a cable issue, or could be excessive engine movement pulling on the cable. Does the dash indicator change when it goes to neutral? That would rule out an issue with the shift lever.
@@promastersonly1419 Yes, it would stays on D for 2 sec before jumping back to N on thr indicator. This only happens when I stop the car on Drive mode (traffic light, stop sign etc).
@promastersonly1419 it finally broke down on the road. Checked transmission fluid, DEAD DRY. *I bought the car used just a month ago. It looks like a rebuilt transmission (car is 2016 with 120k miles). I filled up ATF+4 upto 2-inch mark. Still slips into N when shift to drive. What's the chance the transmission dead? I don't think it is worth to repair... video here - th-cam.com/video/ozcl6Wcqqtg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=r3gav2Rm3iKAuIUa
Hard to say for certain since the 2023-up are too new to come into the shop. The new engine is a bit more complicated, but its been in other vehicles since 2017 or so and is reliable. I suspect the new 9 speed will be more reliable, but more expensive to fix when it does fail. The van itself has a few glitches with the collision warning stuff, but nothing major. Basically, reliable.
2022-up have some changes to the engine and a different 9 speed transmission. Both are reliablity improvements, best we can tell. So yeah, 2024 is better.
I have a 2018 which runs great (39k miles) however on the highway it downshifts at the slightest incline. I'm talking creek overpasses in Florida. Hunt hunt hunt. Is this normal? I cannot imagine this thing lasting very long with all these downshifts.Tow/haul seems to make no difference. I sure miss the days of torquey V8s. We just rented an F450 moving van and fully loaded never downshifted once.
This is a common complaint. Most likely, it’s normal, especially if you van is very heavy. But it could mean that you are slightly down on power. An empty promaster should hold 6th gear pretty much all the time. If you have access to a reader, send me your long term and short term fuel trims, and i’ll tell you what’s normal.
@@promastersonly1419 I have an extremely lightweight camper build (I'd be surprised if the whole thing is more than 300-400 lbs) so I don't think it's heavily loaded. I have the Torque app on my phone and will try to capture fuel trims if it can do that. However I do recall the app states the engine is at 100% load going down the highway at 75mph. I get about 16 mpg measured average and it plummets on these downshifts. I'm tempted to just let it scream in 5th. In my opinion the 6th gear is just too tall and tends to bog the van. I'd love a 6th that ran about 2200 rpm @ 75 instead of this constant bouncing back and forth. Should tow/haul help? BTW thanks so much for all you do. You're truly a national treasure. Good luck with the weight gain project!
I don't, and that's a fairly common failure mode. My understanding is it's the compounder, but I'm not certain or confident in my ability to say that definitively. There's a way to change/rebuild just the compounder, but it's pretty expert level and it's most of the way toward a full rebuild anyway.
@@promastersonly1419 yea that sucks!, 2020 Promaster has 125k mostly hwy miles, was driven fine and suddenly No reverse! or it slips in reverse you have to give it a lot of gas to move in reverse, but all other gears shift fine. so most likely no quick fix other then a R&R ?! Thanks for Your Time.
@@DRMOE-fp7ez That it goes into reverse at all is suggestive of a fluid problem, or somewhat suggestive of a torque converter problem (though you should have similar slippage in forward gears too). Happen to know the codes?
It’s a low trans fluid pressure code. Could be several things from low fluid to a bad pump to possibly a plugged filter, among other causes. First step; verify the fluid level and report back to me.
@@promastersonly1419 level is good. I had an auto zone transmission filter installed 25 k miles back. so I went to the dealer and purchased there filter and there transmission fluid atf-4 mopar
@@everythingmaintenancellc3660 ok. The next step would be to find someone with a pro scanner and read what the computer thinks the pump pressure is. A regular consumer grade scanner usually wont read it. You are looking for something called the “actual line pressure”. Running in park, it should be 120-130psi. If it’s low, we know it’s probably the pump. Since you mention no symptoms or other codes, it’s possible the pressure sensor is bad, or the wires to it. The sensor is a relatively cheap/easy fix. But the pressure could be low for other reasons.
We have a problem that no one seems to be able to diagnose. Scraping noise between 1500 and 2000 rpm. Doesn't matter if its in drive or park. Last shop thought they had found a cracked flex plate, took it apart turned out to be fine. I asked if they had started the engine with everything separated and they said they didn't think to do it until they had it back together to see if it was coming from the transmission or the bottom end. There are no other symptoms other than the noise. No weird shifting, no loss of power nothing, just the noise. I've watched every video i think that you have put out in hopes of pinpointing the issue. I did find one post with a video on the promaster forum of someone with the identical problem but they ended up replacing the engine and transmission together and never figured out the cause of the problem. Van is a gas 2018 3500 ext with 114k km. This is the only post i can find with a similar problem but they had error codes as well. www.promasterforum.com/threads/engine-noise.93138/#post-732703
Tricky. First off, they couldn't have started the engine because the starter needs both the engine and transmission to be present to bolt in. The first place I'd go is something rubbing against the torque converter - some bit of something that got in there. But they probably would have seen that if they had it out. After that, I'd get under there with a stethescope to see if I could narrow it down, at least to an area. In theory, it could be coming from anywhere that spins. But there would come a point pretty quickly when I'd advise you to do nothing. In the absence of a symptom, or a deficiency, it's just a noise. I'd cut open a well used oil filter and look for metal, but I'm guessing you won't find any. It seems hard to swallow, but it's possible the best course of action is to wait for it to change or get worse or otherwise be a bigger problem.
@@promastersonly1419 That is kind of what we decided on, we did replace the flexplate just in case as it seems to be a common problem and it was already apart. Didn't really think about the fact that the starter was attached to the transmission. Due for an oil change in a couple weeks, will ask them to check for metal. Thanks for your great videos!
@@GORBAGuelph I'm guessing that there will be nothing in the filter, and it will end up being like a hose clamp rubbing the belt or something weird like that.
Great info!! Thanks again
Another awsome video, thanks
Wonderful bro. Keep up the great work.
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I try.
Thanks for doing these videos on the transmission. I look forward to learning.
Gonna be fun, I predict.
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Happy New Year! Thank you for this channel and these transmission videos to come. I am 1 year new into the Promaster family with my 2021 3500 ext (Coachmen RV, original owner, sold as a 2022, 10k mi) I find all of your content to be very valuable and really appreciate all you do!
I ask myself, why isn't there a "me" for EVERY vehicle ever made. It seems like that's exactly what the internet is good for.
Happy New Year Kip! Thanks for making these videos and sharing your knowledge! I have two 2014 Promaster 1500 for my business and you have helped me so much to be able to do mechanical repairs and service.
Excellent. Knowledge is power.
Great videos thanks
Happy New Year belated, great video, I appreciate it. Thank you.
Thanks, man. Happy NY to you as well.
Thank you
Good stuff!
Thanks Kip!
Fortunately, I haven't had any issues with my 2019 PM (*knock on wood*) but it's super helpful having this knowledge you so generously are putting out there for us. I live 2500 miles from your shop but if my travels ever take me out that way, I will definitely make a service appointment.
Happy New Year!
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Thank you Kip, and I'm looking forward to your next videos.
Anyone have this van? How’s it be so far? Looking at a 2015 with 95km but want to know what I’m getting into first before buying it?
How’s yall experience with them?
That closed. I was buying a 2023 Promaster cargo van, some reason holding me back and let's find out someone will reviews, Thanks for your video
very honest video wish your shop was close you would get my business
I’m really glad I found your channel from a fellow mechanic very interesting….
Thanks. TH-cam should be FILLED with such specialty channels.
You're the best!!!
I think so too!
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Great! I’ll be watching this for sure!
My van pretty much was off the road for 11/2 years while I turned it into a full time rv and did notice a weird sound if I started off in the lower gears and I had to accelerate very slowly to avoid that…
But after a 1000+ mile drive to Florida it did get better… still there but not like it was , I think new filter and trans oil change will help..
Hard to think what that could be, but it could be/have been almost anything. Leaves. A family of squirrels. Who knows.
"do you baby" lol love the videos Kip, happy new years!
Thanks! To you as well.
You are an awesome teacher - my fellow Barbertonian 🏆🙏🏻😊
Correction: Barbertuckian!
@@promastersonly1419 - Barbertuckian - LOVE it 😊
Thanks for your time, putting this together! You will live in infamy, when completed.😀
I feel like I already live in infamy, but there's always room for more infamy!
Ahhh solenoid pack!!! Will put that in the things to remember file!! Thanx Awesome Video!!
Stay tuned, you're going to learn a lot.
Love my billet converter. Janis trans is the best!!!
@@Babybugex janis rebuilt it, but I still dont know who made it. Been web searching for a while to find out.
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Once a year whether I need it or not.
Excellent video, I wish you include mention the range sensor lever . It's also the barbie in the repair shop that I work with the promasters.
Surprisingly, we don't see that one that often. Most of the transmission stuff we get is either P0740 for the converter (rarely anything BUT the converter) or a cluster of pressure and solenoid codes that's usually a rebuild. If you type "62TE solenoid pack testing" you'll find a motorcity mechanic video that lays out how to test the pack, and once I determine the pack is good I'm kind of out of options. My knowledge doesn't go deep enough to know EXACTLY what's behind each code/symptom, so we are forced to recommend a rebuild. Like, even if I condemn the compounder, it's almost as much work to swap the compounder out that it is to do the whole rebuild. It pisses me off too, because I would prefer to know exactly what's wrong and exactly what will fix it, regardless of a rebuild.
So helpful! I have 2022 with “lifetime fluid”. Any new sub parts with this 9 speed or video still accurate for that as well. I’m told it’s more expensive and involved for trans service. Should I still have serviced every 100k miles? I’m an expeditor. Thx so much!
hello, do you have any information on the 2014 and 2015 promaster manual transmission that came on the diesels?
Knowledge is power I’ll definitely be watching the whole series on the tranny 🤔😬 ah transmission series I hope you had a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
It's true, knowledge is power!
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Excellent video. And you shaved!
I thought shaving would make me look less scruffy. It didn't.
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Happy New Year Kip, I discovered your ProMasters Only Channel about 6 weeks ago and binge watched every video. It's good and I appreciate it, thanks
On a different topic, I saw in one video the Oxilam LED H7 replacements and immediately ordered a set for high and low beam. They are definitely an improvement and easy install. Then, in the wee hours of the morning I attempted to align the headlight pattern and I'm at a bit of a loss. Seems I can move the hot spot of the high beam lamps easily, but the low beam pattern doesn't seem to move, maybe some part of the focus mechanism is broken, or my eyes are deceiving me, or just a lack of understanding.
Maybe a future video could speak to headlight alignment if you think there's interest.
Thanks again.
It's kind of a black art. There's an adjusting screw at the bottom of the headlight housing that adjusts it side to side, so you can point it inboard or outboard. But the mechanism that adjusts the vertical height has never seemed to work right for me. I end up adjusting it by shimming the headlight bucket 3 bolts with washers. Luckily, you get it right once and it never wanders.
Great Video!! Binge watching your videos. Also has anyone ever told you that you kinda look like a young Richard Gere at certain angles???
Maybe it's my bad luck, but buying the 2014 Promaster 1500 was the worst mistake I have ever made, I bought it, because I had a 2000 Ram 2500 for 15 years and never gave me any major troubles, so Ram was good on my mind, boy I was wrong . iI was with close to 90k when I bought it, at 124k the oil and the cooling fluid got somehow mixed for a plastic piece that cools the oil and cooling fluid broke (or so the technician said) 4000.00 repair bill, at 135k the back engine support that attaches to the transmission broke and the engine fell off, about a couple inches off the floor 3500.00 repair bill. At 154k the engine fell off again but this time the nuts that hold the engine support split braking transmission casing forcing me to replace the transmission with an used one for 3000.00 plus another 1200.00 labor. It cost me more on repairs than the purchase price, changing my perception of Rams forever.
I cant blame you for feeling that way. That trans mount breakage is truly oddball, never seen that or anything like it happen.
It wont make you feel better, but ANY vehicle can turn into a money pit. Long ago, I bought a 1977 benz diesel wagon, supposedly the most durable car ever made. LEAST reliable vehicle I’ve ever owned.
Used Promaster van listings have " Limited Slip Differential" in the ad. I have also seen "Posi Traction". Have also seen ESP and ATC listed. Your explanation would be appreciated. Thanks for another informative video.
Technically, all vehicles have limited slip, just a question of how limited. Posi traction refers to Chevy's brand name for a limited slip. Broadly, limited slip is for drag racers and off-roaders. It isn't going to matter for a van, and in fact would be fairly dangerous in snow and ice.
@@promastersonly1419 Thanks for the info!
Hi! Just got a P0868 code, the mechanic shop I went to did an oil transmission change, and replaced the filter and the gasket around the pan! The following day the code pop up again! Now he is recommending me to change the whole transmission!
We are talking about a Ram Promaster 1500 2014, with 219000 miles on it! At 207000 miles I've replaced the engine!
This can be a tricky one, but either it needs a trans pump or a torque converter or both. But it does NOT need an entire rebuild, although you may want to because getting to the pump and converter is somewhat expensive. I have a video on this channel on the transmission pump that you should watch.
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Now, just need to figure out how to do that.
Happy new years from Alaska.
Greeting Alaska!
Happy New Year from Seattle Kip. Always looking for more info on my 2018 Promaster. Put a Dorman pan on my trans with a drain plug. Currently changing fluid every 30 K and filter and fluid every 60K. Any issues with increased frequency?
No. You could change it once a week and it won't hurt anything. 30k seems a bit over zealous, but I understand the logic.
You rock!
I am looking to buy a ProMaster 1500 now.
What is the difference btw the 1500, 2500 & 3500 engines and transmissions?
Ty for your great teaching.
Exactly nothing. 2014-early 2022 are identical down to the last nut and bolt. All ratings, all lengths, all heights. Zero difference between any of them. Search my videos for "stubby van" for an explanation. However, avoid the diesel option at all costs - nightmare.
Hi, this is a great channel - thanks for going to all the effort to put these videos together. Is the 2022 Promaster 9 speed similar to the old 6 speed?
Not really, though all automatics are relatively similar. I havent laid hands on the 9 yet, so I dont know much. Will take a couple years before we start seeing them in the shop.
Thanks for the great explanation. I been experiencing a brief grinding sound while the Cruise Control is on in my 2022 Travato, whether I'm using it or not. Sounds like I'm shifting a standard transmission and missing the gear. On occasion when the CC is actually in use maintaining the set speed, it will briefly "Grind" and disengage the CC, even on flat, normal highway driving at speeds of 60-70 mph (No bumps, high winds, etc). Any thoughts? Thanks.
Yes. When there is a problem with the traction control, the computer will disable the cruise control. So if I had to guess, you've got some issue with the wheel speed sensors, most likely in one of the front wheels. Perhaps one is grinding or otherwise jacking up the sensor, and that trips the traction/stability control and the cruise kicks off.
If it's not that, I would watch my video on flexplate inspection. It would be damn rare, but it's possible that could do that. Not too hard to rule it out by inspecting it.
@@promastersonly1419 The grinding sound happened several times while the Cruise was ON, but not actually engaged.
@@davesdiversions8078 Wouldn't matter. The failure isn't in the cruise system, it's in the wheel somewhere.
thanks! this channel makes me almost WANT to buy a van with a ticking engine and lumpy rear tires if it means I can negotiate like 4000 off of asking or something. Saw a Promaster on FB marketplace with 700K miles so I know if I get one around 100K it an have a lot of life left after replacing those rockers.
I'm selling a high mileage Promaster later this spring - 600k. I'd be interested to know what they were asking for a 700k van?
@@promastersonly1419 they are asking 15,000. current engine has 200K on it. it's a159" WB I think also the ext. I'm curious as to what you think about that pricing since I'm a buyer in the next 12 months haha. all I know is DEALERS want a LOT for ~50K-80K mile vans; from 28K to 35K asking.
@@kalef1234 So what I have in the pipeline is one of my vans. 2014 2500 long wheelbase high roof NON extended. 531k. Still in service right now as an expeditor, but I'm wanting to get out of that business as the shop is monopolizing 60 hours a week of my time already. Mid to late spring, I was going to put a new/used bulletproofed in it, and have the transmission rebuilt whether it needs it or not (it doesn't, but 531 is pushing it). Clean it up and make it cosmetically nice. I figure with a new engine and transmission, and some kind of warranty from me, the mileage wont matter to the outside-the-box thinking buyer. I was going to ask $17.5 for it. Any interest? To an extent, we can build to suit. It's the van in the 3.2 swap video - I'll be removing the 3.2 and going back to a 3.6 of course.
@@promastersonly1419 not a bad price in current lingering but high market; esp for a rebuilt transmission and engine it would be ready to go. But I can't say when I would buy, just started looking around. I'm in VA but am actually shopping around here AND around Akron because it would be dope to take a potential van to you for a look over before buying. How did the 3.2 work out? I'm curious if it had better fuel economy.
@@kalef1234 no worries. 3.2 was mostly fail. Noticeably less power in normal driving, and same mpg as the 3.6. Thus, the only advantage of a 3.2 is the low buy in price.
Will you also cover flex plate failures? And why you think they happen?
Yes. When we get a job with a transmission out, I'll cover the flexplate.
Great info. I have a automated manual 3500 ecodiesel 3.0. It went into limpmode after rough downshifting. I was told that the control module maybe bad, but I don't see that in your diagram. Is that the same as the solenoid pack?
No. The diesel is a totally different animal, and I know little about it. Sorry.
Love this video, I'm thinking about buying a 2020 promaster are they good vans to buy I heard that they have transmission problems
The trans isnt perfect, but it’s not terrible. In 2022 the van got a 9 speed which appears to be a little better.
@@promastersonly1419 thank you for the information
This is a question about my 2014 136wb, 3/4ton diesel with the hybrid manual trans.
Is the godaweful incredibly slow shift from 1st to 2nd gear just something im stuck with or can it be fixed with a software or hardware kit? Can a shift kit be installed without removing tranny pissible?
Its sl bad that for the first week i frove it, i thought it was stalling out in the middle of the intersection when it shifted from 1st to 2nd.
It was so slow to shift, people would get frustrated being behind me and would quickly drive around me.
The rest of the shifts dont bother me, but off the line, its absolutely horribke to have this thing bog down and shift so slowly.
I don't do anything with the diesel, particularly with the transmission. But I know the one guy in the country who does. He runs a shop in Florida. Email him at hellraisertrans@outlook.com. Name is Charles.
My 2019 is doing a tick noise when I start ,the noise goes away when driving, replaced the starter. Cold be the flex plate?
Very well could be, but they make a pretty distinctive noise when they crack. Type into youtube "broken flexplate sounds Chrysler Town and Country" and you'll find a video by Online Mechanic tips that does a good job of recording the sound, and shows you how to slide under and inspect the flexplate.
If that's not it, there is another test you can do to see if it's the "pentastar tick". Cut open a well used oil filter, and see if there's glitter inside. A little is normal, but it will be obvious if there's a lot.
I wanted to thank you for the videos. By the way, the transmission of my Promaster looks very similar to my friend's VW Routan. Do they use the same transmission?
Identical in every respect except the final gear ratio.
@@promastersonly1419 Thanks
Just bought 2023 Promaster with 9-speed transmission. Are these any different in maintenance, durability or repairs? Or maybe to soon to tell?
The 9 speed has been in production in other vehicles for something like 8 years, and as far as I can tell will be more reliable than the 6 speed.
Is this applicable to the 3.0L 4cyl engine as well? I have a 2014 2500 promaster. I've been having a hard time finding information on this vehicle and a mechanic just told me I don't have a pan
The diesel is a very different animal, especially the transmission. It’s basically a manual transmission, shifted by robotics. I honestly dont know a lot about it, but i know that almost nothing about the gas transmission applies.
Good stuff! I have a 23 pro master 3500 Winnebago Solis. What transmission type do I have?
Thanks. Can’t wait to subscribe and see the other transmissions vids! Very helpful
You have the 9 speed, which by all indications appears to be more robust than the older 6 speed.
do you recommend certain years of Promaster that are less problematic?
All the 2014-2021 are identical, all weights and lengths. The 22-up have a slightly different engine and very different transmission, both of which appear to be slightly more reliable.
are the 9 speeds better than the 6t2e? could you put a 9 speed in place of the 6t2e if it went bad?
Best guess is that the 9 speed is more reliable. Basically impossible to swap them as you’d have to swap the computer and reprogram it.
hello ! I purchased a 2015 promaster 1500 last year, 2nd hand, and had 140k on it. has about 155k now. have noticed that sometimes after coming to a stop, the transmission wont shift from 1st to second unless I let off the gas, and also 2nd to 3rd . no rhyme or reason , just when it wants to. what is the first 1 or 2 things to look at ?
Absent any codes, the first thing I would look at is the rear transmission mount, the one under it in the rear. After that, I'd take a good look at the fluid level and condition. But without a code, the only other thing to look at is data in the computer called "actual line pressure". This is the pressure coming off the transmission pump. That will take a semi-pro scanner to read, but any shop should be able to read it in 2 minutes. That will tell you a lot about where to go next.
948TE in the '23 any better?
Have a ProMasterous new year.
Unknown. I haven't laid hands on a 2022-up Promaster yet with the revised engine or new transmission. I expect the new 9 speed will be less serviceable than the 62TE, but that doesn't mean it's a bad transmission. Been in production for 6 or 7 years in other Chryslers, so I expect the bugs to be worked out.
@@promastersonly1419 Thanks
I’m preparing to do my first transmission service on my 2021 ProMaster and want to put in the Dorman pan with a drain plug just in case I want to do a fluid change without dropping the pan in the future. Dorman says their part 265-833 only fits through model year 2019 and doesn’t seem to offer a lower pan option for the 2021. I’m sure my van has the same 62TE as a 2019 and not the newer transmission in 2022/23 models. Do you know of any reason why the same part wouldn’t work or why there’s a break in applicable years for the pan between 2019 and 2020?
Dorman does that sometimes - their application charts lag sometimes. Likely, they designed that pan in 2019 and just haven't gotten around to updating the year range. It'll fit.
@@promastersonly1419 thanks Kip! I’ve also noticed many different part numbers (68218057AC, AB, etc.) for the Mopar MS-9602 spec oil you recommend for the transmission. Most of these seem like superseding part numbers for what I assume is the exact same oil, but do you see any differences or advantage in using the latest version of this oil?
The truth is any ATF+4 would probably work fine, but I'm timid about experimenting, because I KNOW Mopar brand works. I buy it from Summit Racing and they have a good price. I also happen to know that O'reilly's sells a Valvoline brand that meets 9602. As to the AC, that suffix is the most current, but I have no idea why it would ever have changed or been superceeded. @@olivierhecht8022
Your really uping your game, you shaved for this one...lol!? My 2017 with 81K is running great.... Keep the info coming....
Don't get used to it - I hate shaving and may not do it again till next new years.
I need help i got three 2015 pro master that wont go in to gear drive or reverse gives a gear not available error can you help me
Left a voice msg. Email me at promastersonly@gmail.com
Hi, thx for these awesome videos! My 2016 promaster started shifting to N while I was on D stopped at a stoplight on my way to work today. Took many restart to get it locked on D, it happened again on my way home. Is it a gear shifter issue? please shed some light. Thx
Could be a cable issue, or could be excessive engine movement pulling on the cable. Does the dash indicator change when it goes to neutral? That would rule out an issue with the shift lever.
@@promastersonly1419 Yes, it would stays on D for 2 sec before jumping back to N on thr indicator. This only happens when I stop the car on Drive mode (traffic light, stop sign etc).
@@kred2770 I’d tape a cell phone camera undehood pointing at the shift lever at the top of the trans, see if you can get it to reproduce.
@promastersonly1419 it finally broke down on the road. Checked transmission fluid, DEAD DRY. *I bought the car used just a month ago. It looks like a rebuilt transmission (car is 2016 with 120k miles). I filled up ATF+4 upto 2-inch mark. Still slips into N when shift to drive. What's the chance the transmission dead? I don't think it is worth to repair... video here - th-cam.com/video/ozcl6Wcqqtg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=r3gav2Rm3iKAuIUa
How reliable is the 2024 Promaster van?
Hard to say for certain since the 2023-up are too new to come into the shop. The new engine is a bit more complicated, but its been in other vehicles since 2017 or so and is reliable. I suspect the new 9 speed will be more reliable, but more expensive to fix when it does fail. The van itself has a few glitches with the collision warning stuff, but nothing major. Basically, reliable.
... good job! Chief - sans whiskers - almost presentable...
Yeah, almost.
Are the 2024 models any different?
2022-up have some changes to the engine and a different 9 speed transmission. Both are reliablity improvements, best we can tell. So yeah, 2024 is better.
I wonder if the solenoid pack was my problem the first time. I got it rebuilt and it's on it's way out again after a year.
Impossible to say without more information.
@@promastersonly1419 it started downshifting hard when coming to a stop on an incline and then reverse started going out little by little
@@thestandardbarber1708 not 100% certain, but that probably was mechanical and not the solenoid pack.
I don't own a pro master but I own 2 vans with 62 E transmissions.
Identical transmission, with the exception of the final gear ratio.
@@promastersonly1419 thanks for all the great information
How many Quarters fluid get the 2500 v6
Full fill is 10qts. When you drop the pan, anywhere from 5-7 qts will go back in, depending on how much is trapped in the torque converter.
@@promastersonly1419 thanks you God bless you
What about the new 2022 9 speed tranny? Does it have issues?
Seems like it’s an improvement over the 62TE.
@@promastersonly1419 thank you 😊
I have a 2018 which runs great (39k miles) however on the highway it downshifts at the slightest incline. I'm talking creek overpasses in Florida. Hunt hunt hunt. Is this normal? I cannot imagine this thing lasting very long with all these downshifts.Tow/haul seems to make no difference.
I sure miss the days of torquey V8s. We just rented an F450 moving van and fully loaded never downshifted once.
Belive it's a feature, not a bug. Owner's manual will 'splain it goodly.
This is a common complaint. Most likely, it’s normal, especially if you van is very heavy. But it could mean that you are slightly down on power. An empty promaster should hold 6th gear pretty much all the time. If you have access to a reader, send me your long term and short term fuel trims, and i’ll tell you what’s normal.
@@promastersonly1419 I have an extremely lightweight camper build (I'd be surprised if the whole thing is more than 300-400 lbs) so I don't think it's heavily loaded. I have the Torque app on my phone and will try to capture fuel trims if it can do that. However I do recall the app states the engine is at 100% load going down the highway at 75mph. I get about 16 mpg measured average and it plummets on these downshifts. I'm tempted to just let it scream in 5th.
In my opinion the 6th gear is just too tall and tends to bog the van. I'd love a 6th that ran about 2200 rpm @ 75 instead of this constant bouncing back and forth.
Should tow/haul help?
BTW thanks so much for all you do. You're truly a national treasure. Good luck with the weight gain project!
do you have a video on no reverse?
I don't, and that's a fairly common failure mode. My understanding is it's the compounder, but I'm not certain or confident in my ability to say that definitively. There's a way to change/rebuild just the compounder, but it's pretty expert level and it's most of the way toward a full rebuild anyway.
@@promastersonly1419 yea that sucks!, 2020 Promaster has 125k mostly hwy miles, was driven fine and suddenly No reverse! or it slips in reverse you have to give it a lot of gas to move in reverse, but all other gears shift fine. so most likely no quick fix other then a R&R ?! Thanks for Your Time.
@@DRMOE-fp7ez That it goes into reverse at all is suggestive of a fluid problem, or somewhat suggestive of a torque converter problem (though you should have similar slippage in forward gears too). Happen to know the codes?
Hi buddy my 2017 transmission started giving me issue . Can you help me. I have a video and picture but hoe do I send it to you.
I’m going to need more information. What’s the story?
TC , multiplies the torque, a manual clutch does not.
And also locks up, but it's more of a basic overview than a master class.
My pump has failed..shop is looking for a new transmission.
It's not good.
Availability is at best , long range. Weeks or even months.
Options: Jasper, junkyard, rebuild yours. That's pretty much it.
Love Me some Kip
Thanks, dude.
Great video I have a code that is PO868 can you please help?
It’s a low trans fluid pressure code. Could be several things from low fluid to a bad pump to possibly a plugged filter, among other causes. First step; verify the fluid level and report back to me.
@@promastersonly1419 level is good. I had an auto zone transmission filter installed 25 k miles back. so I went to the dealer and purchased there filter and there transmission fluid atf-4 mopar
@@everythingmaintenancellc3660 ok. The next step would be to find someone with a pro scanner and read what the computer thinks the pump pressure is. A regular consumer grade scanner usually wont read it. You are looking for something called the “actual line pressure”. Running in park, it should be 120-130psi. If it’s low, we know it’s probably the pump. Since you mention no symptoms or other codes, it’s possible the pressure sensor is bad, or the wires to it. The sensor is a relatively cheap/easy fix. But the pressure could be low for other reasons.
30k miles fluid change for amazon vans. These deiver abuse the poor vans.
You lost me at transmissun
ha!
We have a problem that no one seems to be able to diagnose. Scraping noise between 1500 and 2000 rpm. Doesn't matter if its in drive or park. Last shop thought they had found a cracked flex plate, took it apart turned out to be fine. I asked if they had started the engine with everything separated and they said they didn't think to do it until they had it back together to see if it was coming from the transmission or the bottom end. There are no other symptoms other than the noise. No weird shifting, no loss of power nothing, just the noise. I've watched every video i think that you have put out in hopes of pinpointing the issue. I did find one post with a video on the promaster forum of someone with the identical problem but they ended up replacing the engine and transmission together and never figured out the cause of the problem. Van is a gas 2018 3500 ext with 114k km. This is the only post i can find with a similar problem but they had error codes as well. www.promasterforum.com/threads/engine-noise.93138/#post-732703
Tricky. First off, they couldn't have started the engine because the starter needs both the engine and transmission to be present to bolt in. The first place I'd go is something rubbing against the torque converter - some bit of something that got in there. But they probably would have seen that if they had it out. After that, I'd get under there with a stethescope to see if I could narrow it down, at least to an area. In theory, it could be coming from anywhere that spins. But there would come a point pretty quickly when I'd advise you to do nothing. In the absence of a symptom, or a deficiency, it's just a noise. I'd cut open a well used oil filter and look for metal, but I'm guessing you won't find any. It seems hard to swallow, but it's possible the best course of action is to wait for it to change or get worse or otherwise be a bigger problem.
@@promastersonly1419 That is kind of what we decided on, we did replace the flexplate just in case as it seems to be a common problem and it was already apart. Didn't really think about the fact that the starter was attached to the transmission. Due for an oil change in a couple weeks, will ask them to check for metal. Thanks for your great videos!
@@GORBAGuelph I'm guessing that there will be nothing in the filter, and it will end up being like a hose clamp rubbing the belt or something weird like that.