WHAT A WEIRD CAR! 2024 RAM PROMASTER Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 พ.ย. 2023
- 2024 Ram Pro Master 2500 review by The Straight Pipes. The RAM ProMaster is putting down 276 horsepower and 250 lb-ft of torque from a 3.6L V6. At $70,855 CAD, would you take it over the Ford Transit van or the Mercedes Sprinter Van?
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What weird “CAR” should we review next? 👇
Classic Defender?
Edit: or the Works V8 one!
Multipla
2004 Subaru outback sedan LL bean edition.
Ford Transit 💯
1. Can am maverick, it’s super overpriced and stupid fast with tons of features and options.
2. Any of those sweet camper vans.
3. Ariel atom or KTM cross x (obviously hard to find)
The review all delivery drivers have been waiting for.
Don't forget the van lifefers.
Rumour has it Jeff Bezos watched this video from his $100 billion Superyacht on a FireTV
I'm going to upgrade from an Odyssey to this if we have any more kids 😂
It's a very popular platform for camper vans. Arguably the best option if you don't want Awd
How's the reliability on those..?
I'll be honest, the best part of this review is that you guys are having fun, especially Yuri actually being excited for it and bringing the energy!
Less technology tracking connected apps subscription speed racer track cars. More fun cars!
Yuri knows how to have a good time in a van
Fun fact: this car has been launched in 2006, after almost 18 years of production refuses to die, is sold in Europe under 4 brands simultaneously, with another firth to be introduced. You'll never guess who joined the party after two decades...
So, the most ridiculous thing about this car is the fact that on November 2023 TOYOTA has launched its own badge-engineered version solely for European market. Toyota Proace Max, a Japanese-badged car with interior designed by Italians in the mid 2000's era in Fiat Grande Punto era, is probably the most quirky badge engineering in Europe in the latest decade.
Do you think proace is better?
on the contrary, it’s good, since the car is time-tested
Is Europe living in the future or is North America just time traveling to the past? 🤔
@@TheStraightPipesbeen trying to decipher this for the last 8 minutes
North America is traveling to the past, as it always has
I used to own a van upfitting business and can speak to the use case of the rear seats (would also like to point out that Merc has actually offered a Crew Seat config since 2012, as well as a full passenger van). Before the camper van craze, crew seat vans were almost exclusively purchased by contractors who only wanted to have one vehicle that they could drive to work in, and occasionally drive their family around in (or an extra crew member or two once in a blue moon). Around 2016, they started to get snatched up by families who wanted a camper/haul van with OEM seats that have been crash tested and safety verified (aftermarket seats are a huge unknown in regards to safety). The most common van upfit we would see was for moto families. Sprinter 170 4x4 Crew van with a light upfit package including walls, insulation, wiring, flooring, and L-track in the floor to transport 3-4 motos to the track and back.
As far as which van is "best" among the three kings (Merc, Ford, Ram), I would rate Merc/Ford as a near tie (depending on what you're looking for) with the Ram an incredibly distant third. The Rams have transmission issues, electrical issues, horrible ground clearance, no ability to run bigger tires, horrible seats and tech packages, and bad resale value. Great for contractors and delivery drivers, bad for everyone else.
That’s okay contractors and delivery drivers are what this category of vehicles is designed for. I hope to god the day never comes that the companies start prioritizing instagramers over real businesses. I’m sure you know this but upfitted vans are trash off-road they are too heavy, no lockers, with tires that are too small and terrible AWD systems that flip out if they direct any slip. In my experience as a contractor they do work well in normal ice and snow. Unless it’s a Quigley or similarly modified van it’s not really going to do well off road.
since this isn't actually a pro master, what is your opinion of it since it's a FIAT Ducato?
Yea but the ram also has a couple upsides. That horrible ground clearance means it's easier to get into and out of (lower floor), and also that the roof is lower which improves fuel mileage and obstacle clearance. The van is also easier to upfit because the body is not tapered. And it's easier to hang stuff underneath because of no driveshaft. In terms of reliability ,every car has it's issues. In my circles, the promaster is generally seen as easier to keep running because of cheap parts and no turbo.
we have a Fiat Ducato campervan and it’s pretty good. Granted it’s a manual with the proven Diesel engine and these things can take a beating. The interior is the biggest drawback since Merc/Ford have way more modern and ergonomic interiors. It is definitely the most rustic and drives like a utility vehicle compared to some counterparts. But the Fiat Ducato has proven itself over two decades, it’s badge engineered by like 5 companies and even Toyota now.
I’ve ran a drywall business out of a Promaster since 2014. Absolutely an amazing work van! Couldn’t imagine working without it. Trucks 👎 Vans 👍
Hey king you dropped your crown! 👑 VAN LIFE!
As an Italian, I'd never tought I would see you two drive a FIAT Ducato in Canada 😂
Fiat is all over the world
@@alessandroruele8011they even have their own currency
@@Tumleren They own all currencies, pure gold
@@daniel-ino The engine is the only thing different
@@daniel-ino of course, vans almost exclusively use Diesel in Europe
Im so glad someone is covering the real excitement in the auto industry this week 😂
Honestly this is probably one of my favorite reviews y'all have done! Yuri's excitement is contagious and it's cool to see a weird car every once in awhile!
Former amazon driver here, our fleet was full of these things and they are slowly being phased out woth the Rivian vans. These things are workaholics, the features are basic but the huge cargo space and super tight turning circle make it a suburban street sweeper. Living in once of these things 10 hours a day really makes you appreciate the HVAC that works really well and all of that window area. If I ever need a big van like this, these are at the top of my list.
Rivian is part owned by Amazon is why,
Rivian are TERRIBLE. Work a huge tow company in San Diego. We tow at least 4-5 rivian vans a week. Amazon fleet vehicles. I can not stress how people advocate for those electrical abominations. Mind you, most of those rivians are 2022+
I used to be Amazon driver in Europe and out of all Vans we have in Europe, these are the worst. My DSP had all kinds of vans and every morning all the drivers fought to not have to drive this piece of crap. Compared to Ford and Mercedes, even Renault, you feel like You’re in a car from the 90‘s and it honestly feels kinda dangerous to drive
Nice Citroen Jumper/Fiat Ducato/Opel Movano/Peugot Boxer
Toyota ProAce Max.
Honestly this review ruled, Yuri was so excited! Love the work, fellas, keep it coming!
More van reviews!!!! Would love to see a comparison between Express/Savana, Transit, Sprinter, and these Promaster vans (or just individual reviews). The GM vans are especially interesting because they've been made (largely unchanged) the same way since 1996! Surprised you guys didn't mention the Dajiban for this review as those are the race drifting Ram Vans from Japan! (which would look super sick on Cliche Corner).
We need more van reviews! We use these for water/property restoration and sometimes we have large crews. That back bench would completely eliminate our need for a transport vehicle for large losses.
Great review!
this is a wonderful coincidence! three days ago I went through your channel and searched for van reviews and was slightly disappointed, but now you made me happy :D I love big vans
Vans are literally everywhere in Europe. Much more practical than trucks. Americans simply do not understand how common vans are here, and how uncommon and frowned upon pick-up trucks are.
Vans are common in the US just not this van. Who cares if pick-up trucks are frowned upon in Europe 😂😂😂 that's no way relevant to the US...
Great to see this kind of review. I drive the 2017 model of this van as a medical transporter. It's uplifted with a rear wheelchair lift, and floor pan to secure wheelchairs in place along with seats for patients without mobility issues. This van rocks in the winter, the front wheel drive pulls through the snow during the winter and I've never be unable to get my patients where they need to be. The V6 is surprisingly strong but I can say that gas mileage isn't its strong suit but that might be because the uplift for the wheelchair lift and floor is probably a couple 1000 lbs plus the 40 lbs removable passenger seats and other equipment. For me compared to the Ford Transit uplift van we also have I enjoy driving the Ram more.
Love it when you guys review commuter/commercial vehicles! I'm still a little sad though that you guys haven't been able to review more of the Minivans. Asides from the Pacifica, it feels like the Odyssey review was ages ago and I would love to hear your thoughts on the Sienna and Carnival.
someone wasn't invited to the cybertruck event but needed a way to get the youtube clicks 😂
We had more important things to review. Like this promaster
Just another idea for its usability, I’m interested in something like this as a band/touring vehicle. Enough seating for 4 members and room for all the gear. Looks great!
That was a great review! I could tell you both were into it.
I love that blacked out...MIB look. ...I kept expecting one of you
to break out "the flashy thing" 🤨...you didn't flashy thing me..did you?🤨
LOVE that you did this van review!!!
This is a great review! Also this van is configured great with the seat in the back for construction crews with 4 or 5 guys!! This is how we spec our vans for wood framing crews.
I've been looking for a cedent review on the Promaster and we now finally have it. I think you are going to be surprised with how many views you receive. Would be nice to see it with varying amounts of weight in it on performance and handling. Thanks for the awesome review and keep them coming.
Hell yeah, do more van reviews, including including your friend's van, and cool adventure trips on different types of vehicles for their intended use! For example, go on a ski trip on a cool SUV, a beach drive in a convertible, or a fun handling car carving canyons in Utah, Colorado, or California!
THANK YOU! For explaining the engine situation. I was driving behind one of these last month and was SO confused how it was clearly front wheel drive but the badge said 3500
Another great review. Keep finding things that are not basic transportation to keep it fresh and fun for you guys
Well played, getting this out and titling it like that to get the Cybertruck review algorithm working for you.
I love you mentioned a Go Karting Team for this RAM I have no clue too what this was in the first place but I love it!
As a former delivery driver, I appreciate this!😅
I’m here for you. Does it pass the “play music at full blast while you walk out to do your deliveries” test
@@TheStraightPipes absolutely it should lol. The ford transit van sound I had system definitely got loud😂
I once had a camper build out on a standard roof Econoline -I liked the squareness for the build stage, but not the terrible fuel mileage of the 351 V-8. One of these looks like the ideal basis for an awesome family toy hauler. Back in the '60's when I raced motorcycles our family came to the races - 2 parents, 2 kids, and 2 motorcycles in a utility trailer.... This is an ideal rig for families that also need to haul. 4 Stars!
Loved this review!
"There's a hill, Floor It"
Yuri should be selling these on weekends.
Love the unique reviews!
Do a review on the Sprinter and especially the Ford Transit (which is for me personally as a delivery driver, WAY better than both lol) then you guys will realize that this Ram Pro Master is waaay below than both of those when it comes to overall comparison. Especially the door arm rest on these, haatee them! Like why is it so far it just doesnt make sense!! 😂
P.S a lot of us actually want to see you guys do more passenger van reviews in the future!
Nice! And yes, more van reviews please! I dailydrive a Ducato in pretty much this configuration; funny how the second row is considered to be so strange in North America, in Europe this is a very common thing. All sorts of builders drive vans like this to get their teams and equipment to their jobsites. I am however surprised about the price you guys have to pay, I bought mine three years ago for about €31k
We have a 2023 136" high roof and we like it. It hast he adaptive cruise and driving assist that work very well. Admittedly we had a problem with the system, but it turned out to be a "non" electrical or computer issue.
My dad bought one of these last year (he's bored in retirement) from a dealership in Colorado Springs that outfits them for "van life" - it has a small kitchen, bed, cabinets, headliner, etc. It isn't huge looking from the outside but on the inside it is enormous. I really love it, it has decent power and is quiet on the road. The only thing I dislike is that the seats are horribly uncomfortable over long distances.
Anyone from the uk immediately think “that’s a fucking Peugeot boxer”
/ Fiat Ducato / Vauxhall Movano
My mind instantly went to the Citroen Jumper
Why is this one of my favorite videos you've ever made? Maybe because the new Promaster 1500s were just delivered at work. I spend waaay more time in my work vehicle than I do in my personal.
Always thought the rear axle looks strange on these
@@Brian_Eugene_Leebecause a beam is hanging low on a rear axle
Love this review please do more like this. Just different 😊
Hello! So, here in Brazil this truck is selled by FIAT, called FIAT - DUCATO, have a 2.2 diesel engine
WHAT ! A V6 276hp in this ?????????? wooooooooooow ! in France, we have the same, but with little engines and even EV (under different brands, like Peugeot, Citroën, etc .... )
Pretty sure the caravan had that motor like 15 years ago
Great review ! I love the excitement 😍
Love the excitement. My Ram Promaster 1500 136” HR has been my home for over 6 years. I am SO GLAD they’ve upgraded the front end - b/c it has been the ugly duckling for its whole existence in the US. Love that you reviewed it - there’s so little actual reviews of vans. You should try it off road, it does surprisingly well with short overhangs and good break over. I’ve taken mine places I probably shouldn’t have and it’s done it and hasn’t broken down. #vanlifeislife
If I had 4 more people and 3 big dogs this would be a perfect vehicle especially with the low loading floor height for dogs and it is convenient to load for yard work. I like the covert windows and the look and it is practical. Thank you for the review.
Also a good cab with a wheelchair ramp.
One of my favourite recent videos from you guys! The 911ST was good too! But this style video is great.
"I don't sleep like a baby, I sleep like a corpse." -I needed a laugh today, thanks bois.
This is why I love you guys!!!!
This is now officially one of my favorite reviews that you have ever done!
I ride dirt bikes and work from home. I love the versatility of my AWD Sprinter Crew for both family and fun.
Awesome Review!! Ppl who do mudding would love this van spec
I'll take a contractor van review over yet another midsized CUV review any day!
Absolutely. For starters you can actually live in this if you have and / or want to. And you don't have to spend half of your day refueling this.
Keep em coming
I'm surprisingly happy you did this review. Do more! Perhaps a Transit Trail (if it is available in Canada)?
This was awesome guys 👏🤘🤘. Keep these reviews coming 🎉🎉🎉
Worked at a brewery and had RWD Ford delivery vans. In the winter the damn things would get stuck at the bottom of the hill where the loading dock is. FWD would have been super handy.
Depends I feel like, if you were fully loaded than FWD should theoretically be worse since the weight would all be in the back so while driving up the hill it would push the rear wheels into the ground and lift the front off the ground. AWD vans would have been the best for that kinda situtation.
This van in its particular configuration in my opinion would make a great family van.
hello, former professional van driver here. the real reason package gets smashed, at least from my perspective, came from bad drivers suddenly cutting in front of us so we had to brake very hard to avoid accidents.
More vans for sure! I've driven the full size Transit and it felt pretty quick for a van.
I watched it just because you’re both entertaining.
And yes please go camping ! Would be hilarious
As a full time musician who likes to tour and play out of state as much as possible, I LOOOOVE the back seat!
The layout of this thing is pretty darn awesome.
Yes definitely do some off road testing and how it is to live with some of these cars camping. Some of the other car reviewers have done some and I love watching they review the utility of the vehicles.
camping in the middle of winter in Alberta.... Now that would be a good watch!
This would have been great in the military vs our sprinter or 350 vans. We did satellite, audio/video, other small to med equipment.
Y’all should absolutely do a camper van or big class c motor home review
Deal
@@TheStraightPipesmaybe I should have waited until the end of the video 😂
Magnificent review - everyday vehicles!
You should do a review of the Explorer or Waldoch conversion of this van, basically turning it into a limo, for less money than the Winnebago. The Winnebago is a camper conversion, which is fine, but the Explorer and Waldoch conversions are a bit more usable as a daily driver for the family.
Finally a good review of vans, you shows Also review the fossil of Chevy Express & Gmc Savanna with the 6.6 V8 they are old school dinosaurs. Maybe they could be some Sleeper in the Truck world. I want a review from you. Is like reviewing a Ford Crown Victoria all new from factory in 2023 but in a Van❤🔥♥️
Van and camper van and RV reviews for sure Added to the mix! If it’s got an engine and wheels go for it!!!!
🤠 I have a Travato. I love it. The Promaster chassis makes a great camper van. It is supprising how quick the Travato's are even after the Winnebego upfitting. Total weight is just under 10,000 lbs. 🤠
also great for solar crews etc. my company had multiple sprinter cargos with back bench added by our mechanic. awesome for any install crews
I love it... You guys are such car nerds. Brilliant. 😎👍
I have photos of my Transit Quigley lapping Streets of Willow with an insane amount of sidewall flex on the AT tires. Despite trying to turn off stability control it never fully went away, and when it decided to intervene on track, it did so in a decidedly unsafe manner. Think first time driver stabbing at the brake of one corner full force; I thought it was going to roll the van! That was certainly a different sort of adventure than what I bought the van for...
Loved the van review.
I’ve driven one for work, that was the vehicle they assigned me and it was a 2022 though, so it had the older body style with new interior, but it was surprisingly quick for what it is, it had no problem reaching 80mph.
Great review! You should definitely see if you can get a new sprinter crew can to compare it. I’ve driven a couple of these pro masters, and it feels alright compared to vans 20 - 30 years ago. But when you compare it to a ford or especially the Mercedes. It’s day and night on how it handles.
tbh, as an italian speaker, ian's pronounciation of ducato was actually correct lmao (doo-cah-to)
Race teams. That's a brilliant use case. 4 or 5 team members with spare parts and toolkits in the back.
Also: painters, plumbers, electricians...basically any tradie. You don't need stupid amounts of ground clearance or a pickup, just a lot of space for both people and things.
Another fun fact: the heavy duty suspension is actually pretty high-end.
"The four-wheel independent performance suspension consists of: a front short/long arm with high upper "A" arm, lateral and diagonal lower links, coil spring over gas-charged shock absorbers and a stabilizer bar; a five-link rear with coil springs, gas-charged shock absorbers, isolated suspension cradle and stabilizer bar."
Joe Rogan's arrows would shoot straight through that.
I am so down for TheStraightPipes van content! 🎉😊
Yes Yuri - you got the adjuster on the arm rest! Think I complained about that on a Range Rover review
Even a family to go on a family trip..fits all you all need
Honestly, I love "regular" car reviews like this. Too many car review channels review $50k+ cars and the cheaper car market ($20k-$30k) always seems to get overlooked. While this van was in the $50k+ category, cheaper cars should be reviewed more often.
same. I love budget car reviews too. Car Care Nut did the Nissan Versa recently, loved it
Eager Yuri is contagious! One of your best reviews.👍👍👍
Definitely do more of these please
This is far more interesting than that new stainless steel fridge on wheels. I had no idea you could spec it out so much! so freaking cool!
Best review ever!
If you go to Europe and see the smaller motorbike racing teams these are the go to vehicles. They sleep in these things over the weekend. Then put the bike in them to take the bike back to the shop.
seeing the same intro that you would do with any other car - including the launch - Priceless.
yes! you should absolutely go overlanding and camping with a van, van life and make videos of it! you guys would be awesome and fun at that! please! :)
This review delivers!
About overlanding: french company Dangel does 4x4 transmission with diff locks for PSA Group and some campervan builders (i.e Westfalia, Bunkervan and such) has a 4x4 model of this.
Nice work with the title, it’s all about timing 👍🏼
Love the van review. More please. Not sure if Canada doesn’t get it, but there’s a Transit Crew van in the US.
Now it makes sense why you guys have been talking about the Cybertruck lol. I didn’t know it was revealed a couple of hours ago. trying to get the video into the algorithm by putting it in the title 😂👍
😂🤣
I work in RV Sales and we sell ProMaster Class Bs. Super helpful to have all this info on the chassis!