M855 in ballistic gel at 500 yards.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- So here is the ballistic gel video at 500 yds with the NATO M855, I'm using the same rifle and ammo that I used in the "meat target" video. • 500 yards, a 20” AR wi...
The slow motion part wasn't as good as I'd hoped but it still turned out ok.
Be sure to check out 12:44 it quite comical.
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Excellent video! The very first time I've ever seen anyone actually prove just how deadly the 5.56 Nato round can be, at 500 yards.
Definitely not just for punching holes in paper.
I’d even give it an A- for accuracy.👍😂
Exactly why you dont believe everything you see on the internet. The USMC has been hitting targets at 500 for years with m855. If that isnt good enough get a bigger gun. And yes its a lethal or at least disabling round at reasonable distance. Thanks for taking the time and effort to do this video for us.
Loss for words? Don't know what to say? It's all good. Well done. Words not needed.
Glad to see a channel actually give M855 a chance rather than just shitting all over it, very impressive performance! Now I don't feel like I'm inadequate for being too poor to afford to stack 77gr 😂
Thank you for taking time, energy & resources to provide demo & data. Definitely helpful. Pretty decent shooting.
Thanks for watching. I was pretty happy with the results overall. 👍
That was significantly more yawing than I was expecting. I was always under the impression that it would just ice pick it's way through at 500 yards, so this is a welcome surprise (my rifle likes green tips more than 193's).
I was surprised they punched all the way through, really. I thought I might capture them on a good front to back shot.
Twist rate really makes a big difference in terms of yaw.
Yawing and tumbling isn't as dependent on linear velocity as rotational velocity. All spitzer projectiles have a tendency to yaw and tumble in mediums denser than that for which they are stabilized. So the bullet tumbling is not surprising. The bullet fragmenting is surprising. The M855 generally requires about 2700 fps for consistent fragmentation and almost never fragments below 2500 fps, unless it hits a large bone. Seeing M855 fragment at ~1650 fps is extremely rare.
So many people told me after 200 yards m855 is useless, this begs to differ m855 for the win 🏆 🤣
Seems it’ll do the job at distance. Out of a 20” at least.👍👍
You should watch the video on TH-cam where they see how far 556 is lethal. Even at 800 yards the 556 is still devastating
That was much better performance in the accuracy department than what I expected. They were coming in big time on the steel. Took a while to get there, but whacked the plate hard. I'd like to see the Black Hills MK262 in action and a 10.5 Commando upper at distance. I know there's a big velocity difference.
This is one of my favorites !
It turned out pretty good I thought. Smack smack😂
This video inspired me to make a designated m855 build
16” Sionics 1/8 barrel with a Yhm turbo k rb
Shoots pmc xtac m855 just under 3000 fps and regularly groups 1.5-1.75 moa
Has no problem hitting 8 inch steel at 400m consistently
I think it’s the perfect weapon for a potential “near peer conflict”
M855 has become severely underrated
That did impress me to see 62 g steel penetrators cause that much wound channel damage and penetration was excellent!... I can't be too critical but, a bonus since you were out and setup, would have been to seen a comparison with other bullet weights/types... especially a heavier 75 - 77 grain vs a 55 grain FMJ and HP... having a 20in barrel length definitely was the winner. The M16 /5.56 was designed to shoot out of that barrel length to maximize velocity.... a 16in barrel Carbine velocity is like 500 ft/s slower. maybe more at that range. So, if you chrono it, used different bullet weights.... You would have gotten the GOLD STANDARD and most likes ever as no-one has tested that before.
Thanks for watching, I did this video mostly out of curiosity but also for all the hate people give M855. Accuracy, damage and so on. While not the most powerful round or the most accurate it has always been good to me. As stated in another video I did, I’ve been using it for 30 years so I thought I’d better give a shout out to it. 👍 again thanks for tuning in.
@@WesternOutdoordo this with 77gr OTM😃
Great shooting!. Like many, I'm truly surprised @ the accuracy and energy left on the M855, which many have treated as a red-headed, step child. With this said, results will vary and opinions are subjective. The common platform used in the arm forces is the M4, which sports a 14.7" barrel with a 1:7" RT.
So this is out of a 20" and is it accurate to assume it's a 1:9"?
I'd love to see 600+ to 700 yard test.
Thanks you for the video & time.
Great shooting. Not sure I could even hit at 500 yards with m855 :D
Thanks for watching!
Nice work.. I don't think I've seen anyone shooting gel at 500 yards. That green tip is surprisingly accurate. I found PMC seems to be the best for the money. You should have used a regular FMJ for comparison. I shot mild steel at that distance, and it would punch right through where regular FMJ would just leave a dent. The fragmentation was rather poor, I heard of complaints about this. It was really designed to used against body armor not soft tissue.
I’ve heard so many different stories of what it was designed to do I don’t know what’s true. It’s what I used while in the Marine Corps in both the M16 and the 249 SAW. Obviously less powerful than the 7.62 NATO we used in the M60 and 240B but still effective.
I’m going to melt that gel down and try to reuse it so I think I’ll do a comparison video with the M193. Thanks for the idea and thanks for watching this video too.
@@WesternOutdoor Ah I didn't know they used it in SAWs. I remember the ole timers call it a "poodle shooter round" As they felt it was ineffective against larger targets. The 7.62 is defiantly better. But remember even a 22LR will penetrate someones forehead at 300 yards.
Actually I would use a FMJ 62gr, to keep it apples to apples..If you can get some of the new M855A1 rounds. They seem to be the best of both penetration and expansion.
Great work guys. Amazing footage. Absolutely love it.
Nice shooting and I too was surprised at the penetration at 500 yards.
Thank you sir i freaking appreciate you!!!
I appreciate you too! Thank you for tuning in!
i like the fact that you tested this at a distance instead of point blank like everyone else does. would love to see black hills 77 grainers.
Can you do this with M193 if you get a chance? Thanks for a great vid!
That’s one of my future plans. 👍 Thanks for tuning in.
@@WesternOutdoor Thank you
It performed better than I thought it would. Early upset and tumbling even at that range. I'm not sure what the velocity threshold for fragmentation is on m855. M193 needs 2400fps. Thanks so much for this video! I have always wanted to see what m855 would do at range.
I was very surprised it didn’t capture the bullets. I had in my mind 8 to 10 inches and they'd stop and slight bullet deformation. Boy was I wrong. Thanks for watching.
@@WesternOutdoor if you search imi m855 gel test they have a great video in slow motion of a 300 meter gel test. Thanks again!th-cam.com/video/CGo6JBjt614/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for the video.
Just picked up 34 boxes of this green tip ammo! $6.99 per 20rounds. I still get a 20% rebate too from Winchester.
That’s a good price nowadays, tough to find it less than $10 a box.
Awesome video (videos). Can we get the same test with m193 for comparison?
Thank you, this is so useful. I'd give it more than A- in accuracy though. Amazing energy dump at 500 yards. Yes the 20inch barrel had a lot to do with it but that the round that they keep saying it just zips through the animal without real damage...
So this kind of proves that m855 is fairly effective still at 500 yards. Atleast from a 20”
From my understanding the M855 was designed to be fired from a 20 inch barrel. I’ve had good luck with it in 16 inch also, But I’ve never tested it like this to 500 yards with a 16 inch.
Un-freaking-believable. I used to think 5.56 has no energy after 350 to 400 metres. But this at 500 yards seems like the bullets actually increased it's energy at long range, the longer it travels. Not true but it seems this way. I mean, zipped through the 14 inch gel like paper. Dayumm. This means 5.56 is totally effective in long combat or battle even in mountain hill range battles. Boy I was wrong. Didn't think 5.56 is not reliable to drop a human target in long range battles. But this blew my mind. Wanna see this same test with 7.62x39. I gotta say this again, I really thought wearing a leather jacket and getting shot by 5.56 at over 400 metres would not kill me but man,, I am totally wrong, I would be totally dead in 5 minutes if not immediately.
I wouldn't expect much fragmentation/deformation at that range. Still plenty of velocity to punch through it would seem. Not a bad group at 500 yards, I'd be happy with that.
It’s a good shooting rifle. Does even better with a load I worked up for it. I’m still surprised how they punch all the way through with velocity to spare. Then second shot I did see an impact behind and to left of the table a few yards. Couldn’t tell from my camera angles but it hit the ground with a pretty good thump.
Still 2000 fps at that distance. 62 grains at 2000 fps that’s significantly more powerful than 5.7x28 at the muzzle
I know M855 does not have the best rep for accuracy, but seems like if you do your job, have the right set up, it will do its job. I have no experience shooting at those distances so can't comment one way or another.
Thanks for commenting regardless 👍
Of course every rifle is a little different when it comes to ammunition but this rifle seems to send it down range with good accuracy. Thanks for watching!
That's a very interesting result! I prefer M193 out of my 20" barrel for the armor penetration aspect up close and the fragment/tumble out to 200yds but now I can see why the military issues green tips; they're effective at a distance and penetrate barriers more effectively.
The furthest I've taken mine out to on steel is 300yds, my red dot and magnifier are just barely enough to make consistent hits on my 11x14 A-zone targets.
Last year I got an 8pt buck at 25yds with M193 and it basically removed the ribs on the opposite side of the chest. 2 months ago I shot a large feral hog at 200yds-ish with M193; it fell over, got up and ran through my neighbors fence :(. Now i almost exclusively run 55gr gold dot SP but haven't had a chance to try it on game.
I like some 193 as well, I get better accuracy out it than the 885... generally. Thanks for watching!
Even with a 20” barrel m193 tends to stop fragmenting around 125-150 yards depending on the velocity of the m193. Not all the clones are created equal. I’m shocked this m855 fragmented like that out to 500 yards
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Agreed!👍👍😂
Solid video. 👍
Great shooting! What upper and barrel twist is on that rifle?
Thanks. It’s a rock river arms upper I bought several years back. It’s 1/9 .223 wylde.
What an amazing video !! Im going to get a scope on on my 16" gun now for sure. I have an LPVO on it right now but with this kind "proof" i have no problem making my 16" gun a DMR type rifle. What kind of scope characteristics should i be looking for? I have seen these ARKEN scopes for less than $500, will that compete with what you are using? What kind of hold are you using? Im scope newbie.....Do all scopes have 22 minutes of adjustment, lol?
I’m using a Burris on this rifle, it’s a good solid scope but not my favorite. In the videos where I’m shooting the Camo rifle, that is an Arken scope, there are 3 or 4 videos I put out using that rifle. I prefer that Arken over the Burris but I could go on about scopes all day. It’s hard for me to say what’s best for you to get, when it comes to riflescopes money talks ya know.😉 Overall Leupold is probably my favorite brand.
In this video I was using a 7 minute hold over which is the 3rd dot in that Burris scope.
Oh and no, not all scopes have 22 minutes of adjustment. Some are even in Mils (miliradian) which I’m starting to prefer
@@WesternOutdoor Im sub'd. Thanks for the knowledge bomb. Ive always wanted to see this video to be honest and here it is. Thanks for answering me and I look forward to the future stuff
@@WesternOutdoor I understand MILS better myself , thanks again
Thank you for putting a bunch of internet gibberish to bed by showing what M855 will do in the barrel length it was originally designed for..
20in barrels will make even wimpy ammo decent and decent ammo GREAT. The USMC A5 program was heading that direction until the brass got HKitis during a few trips to Las Vegas or we'd be seeing the 20" A5 with a VLTOR A5 receiver extension and buffer system doing the Lord's Work in the hands of our young Marines today.
Where was your point of aim on those shots? A few inches above the target or.. ?
If I remember right I had a Burris scope with a BDC on that rifle at the time of filming, about 2 years ago. I’ve since changed it out. With the new scope my 500 yard zero is up 2.5 mils from 100 yard zero.
How long is the barrel on that gun?
20”
please try it with the M855A1
I’ll see if I can find some. Thanks for watching.
@@WesternOutdoor how one can hit the target at that distance with a regular AR (not an $8000 Surgeon rifle) and cheap military round amazes me.
@@jn3750 Thank you.
M855a1 sells on gun broker for about 2.50 to 3.00 a round. I bought 60 rounds for 180.00 a few months back. Very lethal round..
What is the twist rate of the rifle you used?
1/7
At 500 yards its basically is a 5.7.
The results in this video surprised me.
No it’s significantly more powerful than 5.7 even at 500 yards. The 62 grain is going about 1900 fps. 5.7 pushes a 40 grain bullet at 1900 fps.
Not really lol
Still fragmented ?
One of the rounds did have a slight fragment.
@@WesternOutdoor does 55g still fragment or is it mostly OTMs and hollowpoints? Because I know the wound cavities are huge from the shockwave right?
@@squidy4082 I haven’t done it with the 55gr or hp’s. Just these 62gr fmj.
@@WesternOutdoor I mean we all know 55g is deadly af I just don’t know how well it fragments, I’m sure it’s fine obviously for all around ammo but anything with more fragmentation is too expensive
@@squidy4082 I plan to do this test with 55 gr some day.
much for a 22 cal peashooter, that was good, try 600-700 yards next time.
The little 55g bullet smacks soft targets even at 500. Impressive.
These particular rounds are 62 grain and they surprised me too!