Fanatec CSL Load Cell DIY Spring MOD [REVIEW/GUIDE] Transform the brake from meh to YEAH!
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- Review and guide on a cheap DIY spring MOD for the Fanatec CSL load cell brake; increasing pedal travel and a softer, more management pedal for better feedback. If you liked this video, please hit the like👍 and consider subscribing. And drop in your comments below the video!
▶ Springs used (20 x 10 x 25 mm, YELLOW and BLUE) www.aliexpress.com/item/40002...
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Nice video (again)! :P
Thanks 💰Martin💰
Where did you get this green endings?
@@antoninowak1642 That's from 3DRAP
Thanks for the video!
I tried it and it is great! I was struggling with trail braking in iRacing and now it's way more usable. I am at 80% force right now.
Thank you so much for this. Works like a charm.
Thanks for this! Saw so many people trying to resell these for 10x the price before watching this video. Should get mine in a week or two
Thanks for the vid man. Im going to try it out and give it a try. I was going to replace the CSL pedals actually but this might improve the pedals!
Ordered blue and yellow springs in the beginning of February, got them today, looking forward to try it out
Great video. I'm using 2x blue springs, without any elastomers, to maximize pedal travel.
Only 16.9K subs ? Very VERY underrated channel !
Thank you so much for your videos !!
Helped me a lot
Cheers Greg, glad the video helped.
Just put the blue spring on mine and it feels a lot better now
This is great advice. I now use one Yellow and one blue spring on my CSL Elite pedals and its a massive improvement over both the standard elastomers and the 3DRAP elastomers. Thanks
So you use both springs at same time?
That's what I did to get the feel and pedal travel I wanted. It really comes down to what you are trying to achieve. Given how cheap the springs are I bought a few of each to mix and match.
Great advice! What elastomers are you using to fill the missing space? The 65s or 85s? Thanks!
@@flogamesv9781 I am using 1 of the soft 3DRap elastomers.
Thanks - very helpful
Cheers for this mate! Have been experimenting with elastomers and doing some research, and after extended use, the rebound of the rubber seems to fade in correlation with the stress strain characteristics of the rubber... After a certain point, it becomes extremely difficult to hold consistent brake pressure, and the load cell fades away... the spring upgrade allows for the effect to not be as prominent, however, it trades exponential brake pressure for linearity... As I still like a stiff brake pedal, have ordered a blue, red and green (next stiffness) spring from the website, will update on this phenomenon when I receive the springs later this month!
just got the springs... Brake fade is removed, have miles more confidence under brakes. Am able to be more precise and run my brake bias further back without the rear coming around. Am running the blue spring and red spring in combination, gives a very similar feel to the elastomers that come stock... If you are experiencing brake fade as a result of worn elastomers, this upgrade will fix that issue.
Thanks for the video, I was surprised how stiff the stock LC pedal is and don't want to spend 35€ for the 3drap mod for a used entry pedal set. I've bought both springs and still waiting for the order to arrive.
Edit: I've gotten my springs now and the blue one feels perfect, I like a stiff pedal but the stock one didn't give any feedback and felt like a wall, much better with the spring!
Happy new year and thanks for the video! Then overall... spring or 3Drap elastomers in your opinion? :) just saw your couple of videos on it and I’m doubtful on what way to go
GOOD MAN
Nice video, I saw your last video about this mod and bought 2 of these springs. I’m from Brazil and it will take a long time to arrive. I’ve been looking for an alternative for the 3drap elastomers cause they don’t ship to Brazil… Tks for the video!
Opa Alexandre, recebeu as molas? Gostou do mod?
@@rianrj e aí meu caro, td bem? Sim recebi sim e gostei do resultado! Vale a pena. Estou usando a azul e achei que melhorou muito.
@@alexandrerossi3553 Show! Obrigado pelo feedback. Acabei de realizar a compra, agora é esperar chegar! Abraço.
I just bought the blue one (because it was available from amazon so I wouldn't have to wait a month) and my first impressions is that it does not change a lot, but it's enough to be noticeable. Note that my pedals and my seat are not rock solid planted to the ground and I am also not the strongest of dudes.
Overall for just 8 bucks it's an improvement.
do you have a link to amazon? I only see a set of 3 springs (green, blue, red) for like 40 bucks...
never mind. I dug deeper in Amazon and found a set of 2 blue springs for 5 bucks. Not much can go wrong here.
@@1nZaneR what is it called on amazon
@@gijs6815 "Brand: Generic
4.4 out of 5 stars 4Reviews
sourcingmap 20mm Outside Diameter 25mm Long Spiral Light Feather Blue Printing Mold 2 Pcs" turned out it took a few weeks for them to arrive from China
I am using 2 of the yellow springs, no elastomers, with brake set to 15%... but my pedals are attached by velcro to the floor, so this is the most force my setup can handle. feels OK though 😌👌
Good idea. I'm going to go with 2 blue springs and no elastomers. I want maximum pedal travel.
Fantastic idea just a shame you can get a hold of a fanatec DD Pro 5nm bundle lol if buy all so much more expensive
I'm even using a spring-mod for my HE Ultimates and the last elastomer is just inside the spring as a spacer. But getting some unlinear resistance around the 80% mark is IMO rather desirable if it's not ACC, since tyres tend to start locking if going over, so 80% should be your 100% in most cases. In ACC there is an option in the brake-settings to add an upper dead-zone and get basically the same result.
Have you tried using the 3drap elastomer and a spring? I'm currently using a 3drap linear elastomer and a yellow spring,.. But after watching your video i think im going to switch to a blue spring because yellow is a bit light.
Does this work with the csl 2 pedal set without loadcells? Nice vid
I would be happy if I could get even close to the travel you get from the stock pedal. I have to push super hard to get anywhere close to that.
*I mean push super hard as in both hands pulling the wheel, heavy duty RCP pro cockpit creaking from the strain hard.
I have the GT Lite Rig by next level and I’m pushing myself away and I’m weigh about 100kg and can barely move the pedal. I ordered yellow and blue and am considering using multiple blues. Have you tried using multiple springs?
Hey are there any springs available anywhere that would replace just one elastomer, much like on the elite v2 pedals. ?
Which one has more travel between 3drap hybrid and aliexpress blue?
I went with the yellow spring for my setup, my pedals are on carpet you have to lower the brake force on the Fanatec software to your liking that won't push your chair backwards if you are using an office chair.
I did a blue spring on my brake set up on a sturdy Next Level Racing GT rig and it's... Better. Does it feel like a hydraulic brake more? No. Does it feel like my Elise's brakes? Ehhh... Not really. Does it give more travel so it's more like a "street car" brake? Yes, which makes it worth it over keeping the stock setup which is like a rock. I didn't notice a difference in lap times so far, but the feeling is so much better.
Given that those springs are much cheaper than 3drap mod, it seems like a no brainer, assuming CSL pedals are a budget buy, so you want to keep the price low. Only thing I am worried about is longevity of those springs as spring tend to get "tired" over time.
3DRAP is ridiculously expensive for a plastic rubber but this is cheap and worth to give a try but In the link that you gave there is no 20 x 10 x 25 mm Blue color, I am not sure if it is sold out. Is it have to be exactly that size and is it really the color that gave stiffness?
I replaced the middle elsatomor on my CSL elite load cell pedal with an aluminium tube because the elsatomors lost there rigidity over time. I like the pedal to be stiff with little movement. Your body can replicate pressure applied very easily in repetition but can not replicate travel anywhere near as easily. At the end the of the day the load cell only records pressure applied regardless of how far the pedal has travelled.
Thanks for sharing
"Can't replicate travel easily" yet throttles are generally really light? Doesn't really make much sense, I wonder where that idea comes from because I've certainly heard it a lot.
Is losing rigidity a common thing for elastomers? It is a bit worrying that after buying pedals, I would have to shell out more money for replacement elastomers.
Also, this sounds like Fanatec accounted for this and made those pedals too stiff out of the box, so it would ease in over time...
@@Rosaslav unfortunately that's the way of the world, everything has a duty cycle. That being said they do last a very long time, and most pedal set either come with extra ones or they are readily available after market and a very cheap.
@@Rosaslav There is a breaking in period, and they settle.
with 1 spring it is still travelling too narrow, instead of 1 spring did you try 2 blue springs? I am thinking to buy 1 more if it is more effective
I upgraded to a spring because the elastomers felt super stiff but while I was putting it back on the pedal 2 plastic stoppers flew off
Thanks for this cheap mod but for me the delivery times in Italy are long and so I bought from 3d progressive rap mod. Curious about your mini schaker mod
The shaker mod video is coming out in a few days. It's completed and just being edited.
Did you try these springs with 3drap elestomers? I have 3drap hybrid ones but i wanna try it with blue spring + 3drap linear elestomer. Whats ur opinion on that?
I haven't tried that.
Great video! How do you compare 1 blue die spring to 1 3DRap progressive elastomer? Are they even close?
Just keep watching as I cover that very question near the end of the video.
I´ve bought 4 springs, yellow, blue, green and red, but it doesn´t makes any sense to me. It doesn´t feel realistic anymore. So I drive without any springs in stock state it´s mucht better for me
Thanks for the video. Out of interest though, where did you get the yellow bushes that fit on the sides of the top pedal mount? Thabks.
th-cam.com/video/JFAXaLnfUr0/w-d-xo.html
@@SimRacingCorner Haha. Yes! Thanks man. 👍
I love the mod. Should the spring be first in the stack of the elastomers?
It really doesn't matter. You can try either way, it should feel the same.
Hey man! Just curious to know if there would be a disadvantage to get rid of all the elastomers and just put 2 blue springs in there instead? I usually use around 80BRF anyway so wouldn't get to 100% with one, but just curious to know if there's actually an advantage of using 1 spring instead of 2? Cheers mate!
Elastomers provide a better sensation of progressive resistance. So the hybrid setup I find better than two metal springs. But comes it down to what works for each person, some people might prefer just running springs. So my review does have bias because of my preference.
@@SimRacingCorner appreciate the reply! It's a good review especially showing the BRF settings with each spring. I guess I'll try the hybrid version first and then double spring and see what's best for me. I guess the hybrid way if you end up hitting the elastomers you know you broke too late lol.
What if you put the yellow spring on top then the elastomers on bottom so when yellow spring is completely compressed it starts to push on elastomers? Wouldn’t that work to? Also love your videos keep up the great work.
It shouldn't make a difference, as the spring tension is softer than the elastomers, the spring is always going to compress first in the stack.
Those little green circle things that you have on your load cell pedals where can i buy them i had the stock black one and they broke when pushing the pedals in with the springs
They are from 3DRAP.
Hey nice Video. What do you think ist better? The spring Mod or the 3rapmod?
Greets
I cover this in the video th-cam.com/video/oCdUoOjtEfU/w-d-xo.html
Hi Sim Racing Corner,
congratulations for your videos, very interesting and very well explained, I have a question if you don't mind ...
can the spring stay up before the elastomers?...if not what's the reason??...Thanks a lot in advance for your answer...😉🙏
Either orientation is fine, it makes no difference. Whichever material is softer is going to compress before the stiffer one.
A thousand thanks@@SimRacingCorner 👍
Hey man, where did you get those yellow finger handel deals. So it's not so hard to pull the spring back. Do you happen to have an STL file?
They're from 3DRAP.
@@SimRacingCorner Thanks!
Hello, thank you for the informative video, I bought myself a yellow and blue spring as you advised, the thing is, I wonder what is the best position to put it ? At the bottom like you did, or at the top, or even in the middle ?
Either the top, or bottom is fine. It shouldn't matter.
@@SimRacingCorner Thanks 👌
Of topic, like your shoes, where did you get them ?
th-cam.com/video/oWxq2kSiCy4/w-d-xo.html 👍
I picked up a set of springs, Green, Red, Blue, and Yellow... one yellow spring feels perfect and gives just enough travel, a tad bit softer than the blue...because the stock setup is way to stiff.. my rig is a NLR GT-track
Are the bright green cylindrical pieces a 3DRAP mod? or do I just need the spring for this DIY, just ordered the load cell
Yes, they are from 3DRAP. They're just replacements if the original ones crack, so you don't need them.
@@SimRacingCorner thanks for the quick reply
Will this work with the old CSL pedals ???
Yes it should
So is it possible to use the pedals with this mod on the floor?
I would say it will make the pedals easier to use of the floor.
Does it matter if the spring goes on the bottom (same in video) or on top (closer to pedal)?
Either way is fine.
How do you take the spring column off of the pedal?
Compress it down, and pull it out from the top.
thanks@@SimRacingCorner
great mod ! so yeah the link doesnt work anymore could you please give us an alternative link?
I've just checked the link, it's working.
@@SimRacingCorner it looks like it is not working again :( could you update it please?
@@ramonderer2715 Just click it, not copy and paste it. YT shortens long URLs.
@@SimRacingCorner I meant the link is working but "page cound not be found"
@@ramonderer2715 Are you trying this on a computer, or phone/tablet? I just tested the link right now (on my PC) and it's working as it always has.
I feel like suing fanatec this makes my knee hurt from using it so long
Bruh just get stronger or use a less stiff spring