that clutch-mod, while very basic, is also GENIUSLY cleverly designed with the torsion-arm to add resistance and the notched ramp to simulated that clutch release-feel
Thank you for the thorough and insightful review! 👍 Ordered mine immediately after watching 👀 .... I already have the 3DRap CSL LCM Brake mod and LOVE it 😀 The only thing that I have issue with so far is the replacement rubber rings 💍 ...the originals are plastic (washers?)...that can crack/break upon removal and install (due to pressure and alignment)... the 3DRap replacement rings look cool and are a nice alternative however mine split within only a few hours of use (which gives more play in the pedal under braking).... so still looking for a viable replacement option for the rings/washers.... Cheers! Like 👍 deployed!
@@walkyris2125 i actually did a simple/quick test with stock, linear, progressive, and hybrid. Basically picked a csr_track i was comfortable with then ran a minimum of 3 to max 5 laps and recorded lap times.... also noted feel (personal preference really). I found my times fairly comparable across the board- although the stock qas noticeably slower lap times for me (like 1-1.5 sec).... I landed on the hybrid just for the feel and it was like .100 faster.... however, I just this past week changed to full progressive instead and am getting the muscle memory retrained but so far it is the most "real" feel to a real car. Gt7 doesn't do anything special with braking (linear) so it has minimal effects in game, but personally feels the best. The rubbers are a great substitute for the stock stiff ones.... if you are needing a little travel in the brake pedal these are it! What isn't mentioned is that you may find that you need to increase the BRF on the wheel to keep from brake lock up.... a viable stiff option is one yellow bushing and 2 or 3 black (stock) ones.... for some people just enough pedal travel (almost like the old CSL foam center)... Worth the money 💰 👌 💯 😎
@@Zascar_88 great, thanks for your feedback on the mods. I play the rally game a lot and a little asseto corsa and automobilista 2. I'm thinking of taking a hybrid for the 2 types of games
THX for the review. I initially was using the old brake pedal as throttle when I got the load cell brake. But it was just to resistant and had to constantly make sure my foot was fully pressed. To many times I would see I was not at 100 percent throttle. So just switched back to original throttle. It needs this or other mods badly as there is no feel in the throttle at all. I am shocked and wonder why Fanatec themselves did not make the pedal better or at least sell a mod themselves. I went ahead and ordered the 3Drap throttle mod. I am in the US so expect it by the end of October.
dont you mean you were using the original brake for the clutch? When you get the LC brake the old brake is used for the clutch, not the throttle. That would be a bit silly considering the CSL pedals have a dedicated throttle pedal in both sets.
@@SimRacingCorner your welcome mate, you helped me out massively with your vid on home made bass shakers, I've passed your most excellent advice onto a few friends so I hope SimCat enjoys the treats 😀 😊 👍
Assemblys straight forward lol. Here i am with a spanner and torque screwdriver and can not remove the fing bolt at all. I will get some penetrating fluid at the weekend to see if that helps. My biggest advice to anyone considering this mod would be to try removing the csl bolt before purchasing to avoid wasting your money like im 90% sure i have
@@SimRacingCorner lol no idea what theyve attached mine with, got it off with penetrating oil and an electric drill with a cross head attached, required an insane amount of force to budge it 😂
In your honest opinion between the 3DRap and the DIY RC dampener for the CSL throttle pedal, which would you say adds the best feedback in terms of resistance and immersion?
The 3DRAP mod is more realistic. Though, if you already had the RC Damper mod installed, I doubt anybody would be inclined to think it was worth swapping it out with the 3DRAP mod.
They aren't identical, but look very similar. The slope on the Vintage orientations are where you can tell. Test that mode, and you can't mistake the strong clutch effect.
@@SimRacingCorner thanks about to purchase one or the other from your links. 1 last question though.. I’m heavy footed. The 3Drap looks progressive on the throttle versus the much nicer looking sim engineering, but the latter looks very linear ?
@@TomTheSurgen1 I wouldn't say there's that's much between them in the overall resistance. But the metal spring and metal frame isn't going to wear and fatigue. Where 3D printed parts won't last forever or will at least lose some of the tension. The 3DRAP mod does work really well, but I would say it's worth paying the extra for the durability.
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that clutch-mod, while very basic, is also GENIUSLY cleverly designed with the torsion-arm to add resistance and the notched ramp to simulated that clutch release-feel
The classic clutch made me order instantly the fanatec bundle with load cell elastomers
Thank you for the thorough and insightful review! 👍
Ordered mine immediately after watching 👀 .... I already have the 3DRap CSL LCM Brake mod and LOVE it 😀
The only thing that I have issue with so far is the replacement rubber rings 💍
...the originals are plastic (washers?)...that can crack/break upon removal and install (due to pressure and alignment)... the 3DRap replacement rings look cool and are a nice alternative however mine split within only a few hours of use (which gives more play in the pedal under braking).... so still looking for a viable replacement option for the rings/washers....
Cheers! Like 👍 deployed!
Thanks for the warning about the rings, I'll be fitting the brake mod soon, I'll try and be careful not to break them.
hi, for the brake mod, which one is better (progressive, linear, hybrid)
@@walkyris2125 i actually did a simple/quick test with stock, linear, progressive, and hybrid. Basically picked a csr_track i was comfortable with then ran a minimum of 3 to max 5 laps and recorded lap times.... also noted feel (personal preference really). I found my times fairly comparable across the board- although the stock qas noticeably slower lap times for me (like 1-1.5 sec).... I landed on the hybrid just for the feel and it was like .100 faster.... however, I just this past week changed to full progressive instead and am getting the muscle memory retrained but so far it is the most "real" feel to a real car. Gt7 doesn't do anything special with braking (linear) so it has minimal effects in game, but personally feels the best.
The rubbers are a great substitute for the stock stiff ones.... if you are needing a little travel in the brake pedal these are it! What isn't mentioned is that you may find that you need to increase the BRF on the wheel to keep from brake lock up.... a viable stiff option is one yellow bushing and 2 or 3 black (stock) ones.... for some people just enough pedal travel (almost like the old CSL foam center)...
Worth the money 💰 👌 💯 😎
@@Zascar_88 great, thanks for your feedback on the mods. I play the rally game a lot and a little asseto corsa and automobilista 2. I'm thinking of taking a hybrid for the 2 types of games
THX for the review. I initially was using the old brake pedal as throttle when I got the load cell brake. But it was just to resistant and had to constantly make sure my foot was fully pressed. To many times I would see I was not at 100 percent throttle. So just switched back to original throttle. It needs this or other mods badly as there is no feel in the throttle at all. I am shocked and wonder why Fanatec themselves did not make the pedal better or at least sell a mod themselves.
I went ahead and ordered the 3Drap throttle mod. I am in the US so expect it by the end of October.
dont you mean you were using the original brake for the clutch? When you get the LC brake the old brake is used for the clutch, not the throttle. That would be a bit silly considering the CSL pedals have a dedicated throttle pedal in both sets.
would you reccomend this clutch mod or the race sim engineering kit only really interested in getting a more realist clutch feel
thank you for this review. the original pedal is too smooth so no precision on the accelerator. I go buy mod clutch.
Glad it helped
Thanks for another quality video mate. I just subbed you 3 coffees 👌👍
Thanks Chris, that's really kind. I'll invest this into treats for Sim Cat.😺🐠
@@SimRacingCorner your welcome mate, you helped me out massively with your vid on home made bass shakers, I've passed your most excellent advice onto a few friends so I hope SimCat enjoys the treats 😀 😊 👍
Add some grease to the rotating part and it will keep the plastic parts quite
I wish there was something like this for the thrustmaster t-lcm pedals.
Assemblys straight forward lol. Here i am with a spanner and torque screwdriver and can not remove the fing bolt at all. I will get some penetrating fluid at the weekend to see if that helps.
My biggest advice to anyone considering this mod would be to try removing the csl bolt before purchasing to avoid wasting your money like im 90% sure i have
It shouldn't be a struggle for most people, it's a standard nylon locking nut and bolt assembly.
@@SimRacingCorner lol no idea what theyve attached mine with, got it off with penetrating oil and an electric drill with a cross head attached, required an insane amount of force to budge it 😂
@@ash180287 That's pretty crazy.
In your honest opinion between the 3DRap and the DIY RC dampener for the CSL throttle pedal, which would you say adds the best feedback in terms of resistance and immersion?
The 3DRAP mod does it a bit better for realism.
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Which one is better tho? The diy or the throttle kit?
thanks, very helpful. Will you review the brake mod also for non LC?
Yeah, that's the next 3DRAP mod review I have lined up for next week.
Id like to get the stl files to make the clutch mod myself
Do you think this product will make its way over to thrustmaster t-lcm pedals?
I don't think so. The simple, flat design of the Fanatec pedals makes them easily moddable. That's not the case with the T-LCM pedal design.
The already have mods for thrustmaster pedals for sale I’ve bought some in the past before I went Fanatec
Which mod do you prefer or would you suggest between this and the DIY RC damper for the throttle?
The 3DRAP mod is more realistic. Though, if you already had the RC Damper mod installed, I doubt anybody would be inclined to think it was worth swapping it out with the 3DRAP mod.
What do you prefer for throttle upgrade.
3drap or race sim engineering?
I now have the 3drap.
The RSE mod is metal, so that's better for durability, but both feel similar.
How long they worked? What about reliability?
Can the clutch mod parts use on the original brake pedal that i using it for clutch after i added on a loadcell brake kit?
Yes you can.
@@SimRacingCorner i have to remove the original rubber and part from the pedal first rite?
Many thanks
@@stephencheung4361 That's correct, you will need to remove that piece. It's a single bolt and comes out easily.
How do you know the difference between the throttle mod & clutch mod? I bought both & they look the same
They aren't identical, but look very similar. The slope on the Vintage orientations are where you can tell. Test that mode, and you can't mistake the strong clutch effect.
What shoes are you wearing?
would you recommend 3drap gas or rc spring gas?
Both are fine options.
This or sim engineering throttle/clutch?
You get what you pay for, really. So the Sim Engineering is the better product overall.
@@SimRacingCorner thanks about to purchase one or the other from your links. 1 last question though.. I’m heavy footed. The 3Drap looks progressive on the throttle versus the much nicer looking sim engineering, but the latter looks very linear ?
@@TomTheSurgen1 I wouldn't say there's that's much between them in the overall resistance. But the metal spring and metal frame isn't going to wear and fatigue. Where 3D printed parts won't last forever or will at least lose some of the tension. The 3DRAP mod does work really well, but I would say it's worth paying the extra for the durability.
Materiale scarso si rompe.