Nolan said he started to make Tenet's script 20 years ago. He also said in 2010 that it took him 10 years to make Inception. That means he thought about Inception and Tenet on the same period of time
wait. same period. of TIME. TIME. GO BACK IN TIME. HE STARTED TO MAKE TENET. THEN HE GOES 10 YEARS INTO THE FUTURE TO MAKE INCEPTION. THEN REVERSE TIME TO START MAKING TENET. NOW FREEZE. TIME IS GOING SLOWER NOW THAT WE ARE IN A DREAM. NOT JUST A DREAM: A DREAM OF A DREAM. SLOWER STILL! NOW UNPAUSE AND REPLAY. NOW WE HAVE: TENCEPTION. or INCEPTENT. This man is a genius. Bloody brilliant.
@@corysantana6171 Michael Caine: "You think you're the only superhero in the world? Mr. Wayne, you've become part of a bigger universe... You just don't know it yet..."
Leonardo dicaprio will not be in the movie... he was filming a lot of other movies at the same time and no website like imdb even lists him as cast for tenet... so I'd be really surprised, if he actually would be in the movie.
I haten't to disagree, but he said that he was dedicating himself to composing the music for Denis Villeneuve tentpole Dune instead. This could be a lie incepted into our brains though.
Except why would philipa speak french and James wouldn’t? Lol yeah her mom was French, but she was also a small ass kid when her mom passed away so it’s not like she would’ve had that much time to pick up on the accent. And if she did, then why didn’t James? Lol
The Tenet scene where the main character is sitting at the train tracks reminds me of the "you're waiting for a train" lines in Inception. I sooo badly want this to be a sequel.
@@flickfanatics7948 Well Tenet was pushed back probably due to the Coronavirus; and Nolan has already done 10th anniversary releases, like The Dark Knight.
Caine also stars in Educating Rita, which is set in a university..hey wasn't there a scene in Inception set in a university?! Case closed!. Inception is about the day dreams of the drunken professor in Educating Rita!
As a Christopher Nolan fan and Inception especially, I hope your theory is correct. I just checked IMDb and there are in fact no character names for the roles the major actors will play, so it’s very intriguing. I think Elizabeth Debicki could turn out to be Cobb’s daughter Phillipa in your theory.
@@alasdairthomson7510 That's entirely possible to do, although I wonder how Michael Caine would react to being told he won't be acting in another ten years!
@@dannert Jackson isn't the only actor with multiple roles. The characters are either related somehow or are playing a part in the movie universe within the movie itself. Tarantino explained it in an interview a while back.
Hilarious, and extremely convincing. And if anyone could pull this off, it's Nolan. But here's the problem. Even Nolan couldn't pull this off. Inception spent almost 25% of its run time just explaining the rules of its world. And while fan theorists love the idea of a film resolving through set-up from a previous, and only tenuously connected, previous film, Nolan knows better. He would never just resolve a film by saying, "It was all a dream. remember Inception? This is part of that." Because despite its popularity, Nolan would never rely on fans remembering Inception. He didn't even rely on fans knowing the previous films of his Batman trilogy. Each film, for all their flaws, was meticulously constructed to be experienced without knowledge of the previous ones. Which brings us back to Inception. In order to integrate that film into this one, he'd have to re-explain all the rules of dream extraction and inception for those who'd never seen the previous film, while also explaining the new rules of time reversal. That would most likely require 50% of the film being exposition about the rules of its universe. Bottom line, you can't build a film a pay-off to a set-up from a separate film. That's only half a film. It's Deus ex Easter Egg. Nolan wouldn't do it.
That is really strange how they havn't revealed the names of any of the main characters in the movie, including Michael Caine who likely only has a more minor role.
Emma Thomas said on Total Film’s magazine that it isn’t a sequel to inception or story wise related to it. She said Tenet is ITS OWN THING. The only things that can be compared are the genre bending qualities and atmosphere of the films. I hope what she said is true because we need more originals not sequels or shared universes.
I'm pretty sure Christopher Nolan knows what he is doing with the money. He is well known and know everything about the movie business, i don't think he will get any bad deals.
To address the budget increase theory: 10 years of inflation. $160M in 2010 would inflate to $188M in 2020...AKA nearly the same budget of Tenet. Also...Inception was filmed only in 35mm and 65mm from what I understand....while Tenet is going farther in terms of using IMAX and 70mm film stock. Tenet also has apparently done a TON of international filming at crazy locations, and that plane crash isn't just any plane crash....I believe it is actually the largest plane on the planet or something crazy like that.
In the world of cinema, sequels are almost always a guarantee for profit and huge budgets get approved way easier. Let's say I am a movie study. Would I be willing to give Nolan such a huge budget on a new franchise (always high risk), or would I make sure to spend it on a sequel?
“I’d say [Tenet] is an in-law to Inception,” Washington said. “They’re related by marriage. They get together for Thanksgivings, family barbecues, like that kind of thing. Other than that, one lives in Europe, the other one lives in Compton.” I think you may be on to something here, maybe not a sequel but perhaps set in the same world
@@Reelcargo which is why Nolan is, in my opinion, arguably one of the greatest if not greatest directors of all time. This man is in a class of his own. He is like the Albert Einstein of movie cinema. He is a fucking genius!
Conspiracy theory I just came up with: Cobbs wife wasn't crazy... she actually did escape to reality by killing herself... Cobb Is stuck in dream state and most of his team either accepted it as their reality and forgot the truth, or were just projections of Cobbs mind. That is why cobbs daughter was raised by his wife and actually has a French accent. Idk how else she could have a French accent if cobbs wife died when the girl was just 3 or 4 years old
Michael cane, the kids grandpa in Inception, confirmed a couple of years ago that every scene he appears in is in fact reality. The legendary ending in inception where they stop the scene to make the audience wonder if it was reality or a dream has in fact been confirmed by Michael Cane himself. Great theory though, but I strongly doubt it.
I like this theory. I've always believed Cobb was still dreaming at the end of Inception, as we don't see Mal's totem, the top, fall. Arthur tell's Ariadne that a totem has to be personal, "that way when you look at your totem, you know beyond a doubt that your not in someone else's dream". I think Cobb is being deceived by Mal's totem the entire time and is stuck in his own dream. Sure, Michael Caine says Christopher Nolan told him he was only in reality scenes, but I think that could be a misdirect in itself. Having these two movies connect together and having that answer would be pretty satisfying.
Ending scene of Tenet: -Washington and Pattison are in a govt facility after they saved the world like: "that was crazy, almost as crazy as that dream sharing program that got axed years ago." -Mysterious figure walks into the room like: "Oh it wasn't axed"....... The figure is revealed to be Leonardo DiCaprio aka Dom Cobb. The audience shits their pants. (excuse the lame dialogue but you get the idea lol. It would be insane)
@@flickfanatics7948 Man, seriously I don't know whether it is going to happen as you predicted. But your ideas and points are so convincing that you should start writing your own movies. If Nolan got to know about it then seriously he will get his next movie idea. Awesome man.
They're re-releasing Inception back in theaters due to Tenet being delayed by two weeks. Could it be because of the 10 year anniversary or other reasons???
Boy you are amazing , I clicked to know now how wrong you are going to be but what you said might be very possible. My mind is blown, now it can't be reblown I hope your theory is wrong.
Hey everyone! Thank you so much for the largely positive reaction to the video. A lot of the comments made are addressing similar things so I thought I'd respond to some of them here: Higher budget due to inflation: Ok fair enough, that's a good point no argument there. Nolan bought a real plane to crash into a real hangar: Also fair enough that's a good point no argument there. If it takes place a few decades further than Inception, Michael Caine would be 90-100, he is 87 in real life. Also using time manipulation to extend life isn't exactly out of the question. Phillipa speaks with a French accent and James doesn't. Maybe because she is the older child and was able to spend more time with her mother before she died. She also might live in Paris which is where we first meet Michael Caine in Inception. Robert Pattinson was shown after the Dark Knight not Inception in the trailer. There is a shot of him after both so that furthers my point if anything. A number of people have said the cast and crew have already said it's a sequel or at least in the same universe without providing evidence. I would genuinely love to know where you heard that from and if you're referring to the recent interview with Washington, he says they are "related by marriage" and goes on to use various metaphors about their connection or lack thereof without ever truly confirming Tenet's nature as an out and out sequel. On the other end of the spectrum are those who have cited the recent Total Film interview where Nolan and Emma Thomas say that Tenet has no relation to Inception or something of the sort. Only way I can respond to this was JJ Abrams denied that Benedict Cumberbatch was playing Khan and the Russos denied Endgame was the title for the fourth Avengers film. Just saying. Finally, there is a group of circus clowns saying Nolan has never and will never make sequels. I find it interesting how they just choose to forget about the Dark Knight trilogy so they can support their denial. And when I have had the rare occasion of someone saying that trilogy of films doesn't count as they are not Nolan's original ideas and an auteur direction of his caliber would never do sequels, I can only respond with evidence and logic. Scorsese's the Colour of Money is a sequel to the Hustler. Villenueve's Blade Runner 2049 is a sequel to Blade Runner. Wes Anderson's Hotel Chevelier was a short released as a prequel to the Darjeeling Limited. Edgar Wright has his Cornetto Trilogy, Fincher's Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was designed as a first film in an unfortunately cancelled trilogy. Pretty much all of Tarantino's films take place in the same universe. Sequels/ Spiritual sequels from Auteurs have existed for as long film itself. I'm sure Charlie Chaplin, Akira Kurosawa and Sergio Leone would attest to that if they were around. Oh yea and of course SPLIT, that's a film people have been mentioning in the comments. I could also drop the Godfather part 2 bomb but I think they've had enough for one day. None of these people ever made sequels until they did. You could easily say M. Night doesn't make sequels but that statement would be redundant following the release of Split and Glass. Please be so kind as to open your minds a little more. As for the rest of you lovely folks. Thank you once again for the support and I'm glad many of you enjoyed the video. Thank you for speaking with eloquence, reason and using evidence to support your differing views. I hope you are all safe during these harsh times and hope that you enjoy Tenet no matter what it turns out to be!
You touched on some interesting points and even opened my eyes to some possibilities of the up coming movie. Great analytical work even if it doesn't happen. I'm hoping some of your theories will be shown. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@@flickfanatics7948 your theory is so ridiculous and absurd...god damn I love it! I for sure got Inception vibes instantly from the trailer but I didn't even consider half the stuff you talk about in your vid. Like Leo's kids having prominent roles in Tenet. Awesome theory man...you just got a new subscriber!
Another connection between the two movies is that both the names "Tenet" and "Inception" mean "beginning" in their own way. And that doesn't happen with any of Nolan's other movies.
Regarding the cost, $160M in 2010 is around $195M today. Just 10M short of $205M. Also, I think a lot of people knew Matt Damon was in Interstellar because he was credited on IMDB even before the movie’s release
This video is like Inception an Idea that grows in your mind that defines who you are and now i am thinking more about it if the theory doesn't come true it may destroy me 😂
I’ve had the same theory ever since the title of the movie was announced. Tenet: “a principle or belief, especially one of the main principles of a religion or philosophy.”.... sounds very similar to that other one we’ve heard before: an idea. “ there's something you should know about me... about inception. An idea is like a virus, resilient, highly contagious. The smallest seed of an idea can grow. It can grow to define or destroy you.”
Nolan always makes movies about ideas/principles/belief that can grow to define or destroy you. What's so great about The Joker in the dark knight is that his whole aim is to get bruce wayne to break his one principle, his one rule of never killing. Memento is about a guy with short term memory but has planted the false belief in himself that he is chasing the man that killed his wife and hasn't done so already. Batman begins being about fear, of course. Other examples like Bane in the dark knight rises also
As much as I love inception, I think that this being a sequel to it would ruin the ending, something that I feel Nolan wouldn’t do. That being said however, I think what he would do is make the ending of inception vague- say when someone asks “James” about his father he says “he left for a long time” and then if the person the asks if he ever came back, James just replies with a blank stare, which could be interpreted a myriad of ways. The only problem would be how to preserve the more outlandish inception theories, such as Cobb is dreaming the entire time and Mal is trying to wake him up, though if the fact that this was a sequel was true, I have no doubt Nolan would make enough grey area to preserve that.
The concert hall (Ukrainian Opera House in the movie) is called Linnahall, it is situated in Tallinn, Estonia. It's not functioning for many years now, waiting for very expensive renovation. So it was pretty cheap to rent for Nolan.
Actually, Tenet takes place completely in the tesseract from Interstellar, with Matthew Mcconaughey controlling time and everyone by tapping some books
You had me almost till the end. Then you said "bringing the near-unlimited time FOUND in Limbo" and I'm like, listen son. Limbo doesn't have infinite time. It doesn't take place in the Dark Dimension from Doctor Strange, which exists outside our definition of time; or the fifth dimension from Interstellar, where our definition of time is a physical dimension. Limbo, in all its entirety, takes place in one's mind, where, in comparison to normal reality, the brain activity is accelerated, which causes PERCIEVED time to be longer than actual time passed. You aren't changing time there, you are, just in your personal frames of references, experiencing more time within actual elapsed time. You could call it relative time, but I think "subjective" time better describes the gist of it, simply because you aren't doing anything to affect time for others, you're just perceiving it differently for yourself.
While I think your theories are interesting. I’ve watched countless hours of Nolan interviews and I just can’t imagine he’d do something like this. He’s often said that he’s never liked doing sequels for the sake of it. And I can’t imagine what gain either film would get from being related, besides satisfying super geeks like ourselves?? None of these theories are compelling enough to warrant connecting the 2 movies, at least in my opinion. It’s one of those ideas I feel he’d detest to be honest. It’s far more likely that they are related in a very subtle way ie. they could take place in the same world or universe; almost like a character from Inception could bump into a character from Tenet just walking down the street. Clever theories though!
Nolan was also the same man that said he wouldn't put a version of Robin in his Batman movies and then we all saw what happened at the end of Dark Knight Rises.
deomartinez77 Aside from his literal name, he had barely any resemblance to any of the Robins. He took up the mantle of Batman, not Robin, so Nolan didn’t lie. A small easter egg means nothing
MtheOP what would be the financial* benefit of making a closet sequel? If money was the reason they would be marketing it as THE SEQUEL TO INCEPTION....
Before Watching this Video: I was hyped for a Nolan Level Film. After Watching this Video: I am hyped for an Avengers Level Film. I'm pumped for this to be True 🤞.
I doubt they would do this because then they’d have to answer whether or not Dom is dreaming at the end. Would kinda ruin the theme of Inception. I know he addressed this, but it would make Inception much less impactful.
Bradfrad haven’t heard that but also haven’t ever looked into it, I like that tho, either way the Top is just a distraction and everyone got played waiting to see it fall 😂
Bradfrad I don’t know if the gun would be a good totem based on the rules established in the movie. I mean he could have shaved part of it off to a certain degree, but if he didn’t there are thousands of that pistol model in circulation around the world.
That is a really interesting theory. Now I’m even more hype to see this movie. The idea of a surprise character like in interstellar has me feeling like I have to see this opening night 😆
Btw I just wanna say something, I didn’t watch interstellar and I watched this video before that! So the Matt Damon cameo was a spoiler but I watched it interstellar this Friday and I just got sucked into the movie that I forgot everything about Matt a Damon’s cameo, and then when he did come it was the most unexpected thing, that’s why I love Christopher Nolan he’s an absolute genius and his movies just suck you into the story and blows you away! I wanna be a director when I’m grown up and Nolan will be a major influence to me as well as to many others!
@@ZaidMalol i think william's saying you should watch all these great movies as soon as possible, and the fact that you didn't see interstellar was weird because it's a really great movie and as a director you should learn from other directors' great works.
New interview 👀 Tenet is “an in-law to Inception“, a star of the forthcoming Christopher Nolan movie has revealed. John David Washington, who portrays the film’s secret agent protagonist, said the film is linked in some way to Nolan’s 2010 time-bending film starring Leonardo DiCaprio. “I’d say [Tenet] is an in-law to Inception,” Washington told Esquire in a new interview. “They’re related by marriage. They get together for Thanksgivings, family barbecues, like that kind of thing. Other than that, one lives in Europe, the other one lives in Compton.”
Saw that as well, great to see you bring in sources to support arguments, a lot of people in the comments haven't seemed to bother backing anything they say so thank you!
@@flickfanatics7948 Well, theories should always have a solid foundation i believe. I believe the main plot device will be time inversion using Maxwell's demon / entropy as shown by the equations written on a shooting range. We might also be dealing with multiple universes, the many worlds theory and quantum entanglement. I think the best we can hope for is that both films share the same universe and that there's a brief crossover... But I'm hoping for more of course
because time flows irregularly they are both parallel and sequels to each other, the end of inception/beginning of tenet being the starting point and moving counter our time through each reaching the beginning of inception and end of tenet which is also a parallel mid point
Many of Nolans films deal with different types of magic trick - vanishing, transportation & escape. Saving his own deceptive one for a movies release would be right on point. Would love it to be true.
1 - "Feels like Inception" So? Nolan loves doing high profile Summer blockbuster action. Tenet is a pretty natural step for him 2 - "Release at the start of a new decade" Just a coincidence. No argument here. 3 - "Similar font in Trailer" Means nothing. His team liked using it, it's pretty standard and looks good. No argument here. 4 - "Tenet shouldn't be 45 million dollars more" Why? Is Nolan not allowed to make a more expensive, bigger film? We haven't seen it yet, so it could probably have a shit ton of set pieces and sequences that are bigger than Inception's. They shot the film in a dozen different countries, so there's part of the answer. 5 - "Secretly casting other actors" This I can partially believe. It's your strongest argument. However, maybe Nolan decided to spend less on casting and more on bombastic set pieces and sequences. He bought a god damn 747 for that plane scene for pete's sake. So again, a more expensive film overall. 6 - "Michael Cane in both films" He's been in most Nolan films. He likes working with him. 7 - "Those two could be his kids" Could be. I could see this happening, but again, still only plausible. 8 - "Pattnison is shown after Inception" WRONG he's shown after they show the dark knight trilogy thing. Do your research ;) Overall, making a sequel to one of his other movies to cash in and milk it is NOT how Nolan operates, as he's always had a passion for new original stories. Making a sequel to Inception would be out of left field, and frankly I'd lose a tad bit respect for the man. But good video nonetheless. Who knows what will happen. If this turns out to be true, I'll come back here and eat my words lol.
Amazing points of rebuttal. Pattinson is shown after both (I edited the video mate, I've seen the trailer upwards of 80 times haha) And yea I'd agree it's not Nolan's style to make sequels, the budget used on the real plane definitely bumps things up. Just penny for your thoughts but thank you for your detailed points and kind words of conclusion. I always appreciate healthy disagreements, they get more and more rare these days my friend :)
@@joaosantos5503 Not at all. Besides you're points and delivery are more genuine than most and I'd take that over perfectly polite any day of the week :)
@@flickfanatics7948 Btw what do you think of John David Washington in the lead role? I'm not that big of a fan, since he always seems to play himself, and from the trailers I've seen he seems rather monotonous. Inception to me was great also due to its emotional side and the characters' journeys. Cobbs reunion with his kids definitely tugged at the heartstrings a bit. I'm worried tenet may forgo stuff like that.
@@joaosantos5503 I think if Nolan made Harry Styles convincing he can do close to anything as a director of actors but I've also felt that Nolan has always been the biggest star of his films with the actors serving the story and no necessarily popping. The only time this wasn't the case was Heath Ledger I think :)
This is an amazing theory, I love the attention to detail and the overarching additional complexity this would bring to Inception, a movie part of my Top 5 of all time. That being said, I think this is way too ambitious to be real. Disappointingly enough, I believe the links we can see between Inception and Tenet are just some very Nolan-esque characteristics which you can find in every movie of his. Nonetheless, if you're right, you should be winning the lottery right about the next day.
When you’re a director who makes a movie and then watches a TH-cam video about that movie and you think can I just recut my movie because this idea is great🤔
I like your theory and reasoning but I imagine that if there was a tie in it would be very small. Similar to how split had that small cameo of Bruce Willis at the end. Maybe he will do a full on combination film later.
I'd see that movie hahaha great theory! The one problem I find in it is that I don't believe Nolan would risk ruining the ending of Inception just to make a sequel, the ambiguous nature of it is what kept the conversation going for a decade, if you give it an answer you kill it.
I think also the biggest clues would be in the score itself. Hans Zimmer and Chris Nolan make every bpm, every crescendo and decrescendo, every instrument wildly intentional (as understand in literally all of Zimmer's interviews). Has anyone listed to the complete score of TENET yet and found any homage to the Inception score? (music nerds, DEPLOY!! solve this mystery!)
I DID IT! YOUR COMMENTARY CAUSED ME TO WAKE UP WITH THE ANSWER!!! I’ve always had this ability to rewind my dream if I die and replay it and find another way to do it where I don’t die... that’s what this guy did at the train!!! He’s a very special lucid dreamer!!!!!
@@flickfanatics7948A big budget is by far the best argument. Even after the success of Interstellar, Dunkirk only got a $100 million budget. In the world of cinema, sequels are almost always a guarantee for profit and huge budgets get approved way easier. Let's say I am a movie study. Would I be willing to give Nolan such a huge budget on a new franchise (always high risk), or would I make sure to spend it on a sequel?
what if Kenneth and John are fighting each other in limbo and then John dies in the dream by getting run over by a train just as Dom Cobb and his wife and comes back to reality in that scene in which that guy says "welcome to the after-life"!!?
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Nolan said he started to make Tenet's script 20 years ago. He also said in 2010 that it took him 10 years to make Inception.
That means he thought about Inception and Tenet on the same period of time
Which one came first ????????
where have you seen that he said it took him 20 years?
@@lukejames9634 on post from Total Film
wait. same period. of TIME. TIME.
GO BACK IN TIME. HE STARTED TO MAKE TENET. THEN HE GOES 10 YEARS INTO THE FUTURE TO MAKE INCEPTION. THEN REVERSE TIME TO START MAKING TENET. NOW FREEZE. TIME IS GOING SLOWER NOW THAT WE ARE IN A DREAM. NOT JUST A DREAM: A DREAM OF A DREAM. SLOWER STILL! NOW UNPAUSE AND REPLAY. NOW WE HAVE:
TENCEPTION.
or INCEPTENT.
This man is a genius. Bloody brilliant.
@@joshuabenton3785good weed
So begins the Nolan Cinematic Universe
...the NCU
Dom Cobb:
"There was an idea..."
Robert Angier:
"To bring together..."
Bruce Wayne:
"A group of remarkable individuals..."
@@Menaceblue3
Cooper:
"So when we needed them..."
Ellie Burr:
"They could fight the battles..."
Leonard Shelby:
"That we never could."
@@corysantana6171
Michael Caine:
"You think you're the only superhero in the world? Mr. Wayne, you've become part of a bigger universe...
You just don't know it yet..."
@@Menaceblue3 Lmao, too perfect
Tesla in The Prestige = Dr. Strange
Even if turns out to be completely wrong, you didn’t disappoint
True
Yeah... I thought it would be stupid. But it didn't
Personally, I'm buying into his theory.
no el 😂😂
Hmm
We enter the theatre and the first thing we see is, the TOP STILL SPINNING....
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK
No literally... No ads, lights low, top just spinning until the actual start time
I SCREAMED
That would bring the house down.
That would be sooo lit. But it'll kinda ruin the momentum. if there's a later reveal when emotions are higher, it could possibly be better.
Nolan Fans: "This isn't possible"
Flick Fanatics: "No, it's necessary."
HAhhaahahahaha
I know what you did there
Nice reference to 'Inerstellar'. I love that line.👍🌎
@@jasontighe3927 yesss I was looking for that memory, I knew that quote I just didn’t remember from.
fans: **starts rotating**
“WHY TENET IS AN INCEPTION SEQUEL”
REASON 1: “It has very inceptiony vibes”
This guy just cured cancer
Hahaha love that!
Lol
lmao
Part one was “no shit” stuff. Thanks for paying attention
A lot of people might not know this but they are actually directed by the same guy too. Crazy, right?
This theory is so good it feels like you’ve ruined the movie
Fstoppers Live agreed 🤣🤣🤣🤝
Fstoppers Live Agree too. Totally blew my mind wasn’t expecting that.
lmao
Haha! Yes indeed!!!
It’s a lose lose
Lose if it’s true (spoiled)
Lose if it’s not true (disappointed)
😂
Damn it... Now if this isn't real, I'm going to be a tad disappointed.
Yes so true
Yeah me too
Let's just brush it off as some weird idea and forget it..
SAME
Leonardo dicaprio will not be in the movie... he was filming a lot of other movies at the same time and no website like imdb even lists him as cast for tenet...
so I'd be really surprised, if he actually would be in the movie.
Maybe that why Hans zimmer isn’t composing the score for tenet, CAUSE HE ALREADY DID!!!
Genius!
Woah
bro... ludwig gorannson... we are in good hands lol
Really? Oh thank goodness he is not on this one! Nolan finally copped on that he re hashes the same pieces over and over.
I haten't to disagree, but he said that he was dedicating himself to composing the music for Denis Villeneuve tentpole Dune instead. This could be a lie incepted into our brains though.
The film hasn't even come out yet and my head is already spinning.
But the question is... will it ever stop spinning? *cuts to black*
@@MrNighNight Yes it does
Christopher Nolan is the only director that has to power to make ppl think hard just on trailers alone
you will spin more after you watched it
Your comment aged well... Haha
Effects of inversion
Feeling it before watching and understanding
That James and Philipa theory is so good
totally agree
man I got so excited!!
except the actor playing supposedly phillipa, it says is someone else on imdb.
If that theory is correct, i'd say wow to Michael Caine's character for being so healthy after all those years lmao
Except why would philipa speak french and James wouldn’t? Lol yeah her mom was French, but she was also a small ass kid when her mom passed away so it’s not like she would’ve had that much time to pick up on the accent. And if she did, then why didn’t James? Lol
Netflix usually adds movies when sequels are coming out soon, they recently added inception..... sooo maybe
Oh damn
inception has been on netflix for a while if i remember
@@JoeOf91 depends where you are. Live in the Philippines and it was recently added for us. Unless I'm dreaming....whoa haha
JoeOf91 just got added in the UK this week
JoeOf91 you are correct
Nolans watching this video just thinking. "My man.... he did it..."
Hahahah, if he thinks the opposite at least you will know why this video gets taken down and I suddenly drop off the planet XD
@@flickfanatics7948 gl in black hole xd
Hahaha I can actually visualise Nolan grinning whilst sipping on his coffee reading the comment section
@@flickfanatics7948 even if it isn't confirmed in tenet, I'd still like to follow this theory until it is disproved
thank god he doesn't own a computer!
The Tenet scene where the main character is sitting at the train tracks reminds me of the "you're waiting for a train" lines in Inception. I sooo badly want this to be a sequel.
Nolan likes to mess with us and keep us guessing.
THEY ARE PUTTING INCEPTION BACK IN THEATERS MID JULY BECAUSE TENET GOT PUSHED BACK?!?!?! “to celebrate its anniversary”
Coincidence? I think not!
@@flickfanatics7948 Well Tenet was pushed back probably due to the Coronavirus; and Nolan has already done 10th anniversary releases, like The Dark Knight.
I totally don't mind. I can hold out for an original Nolan film for a long time, and it will be awesome to see Inception in real IMAX again.
Flick Fanatics you effing did it
I’d love to see it in theaters again. What a ride!
michael caine is the Stan Lee of the NCU.
insomnia ?
Trump 2020 Michael Caine wasn’t born yet.
@@Roger_Waters_Broken_Balls - insomnia was 2000s
Trump 2020 I know
Caine also stars in Educating Rita, which is set in a university..hey wasn't there a scene in Inception set in a university?! Case closed!. Inception is about the day dreams of the drunken professor in Educating Rita!
Imagine if the OG inception cast made a cameo, that would be amazing
Omg yes, would give incredible goosebumps
I would stand up quick and slow clap
That indian dude is in inception right?with michael caine as well
@@Beraksekebon21 nah just Michael cane
@@hasankaiser4563 yeah it's Himesh patel different Indian
Far fetched but I like it. Shyamalan did this, with Split.
This didn't age well...
Oh it did
He got a lot of views out of it though. It pays to make up shite on TH-cam.
wait why did it not age well
was this video released before tenet came out?
TENET... "Ten" forward and back again.
Ten years since Inception dropped.
The hint could be right in the title of the film.
GENIUS
Omg
So this movie takes place 10 years after inception ?
@@legendsLLC it's being *released* ten years after Inception, so it could easily *take place* on the same timeline.
Ever heard of SATOR square?
ROTAS
OPERA
TENET
AREPO
SATOR
As a Christopher Nolan fan and Inception especially, I hope your theory is correct. I just checked IMDb and there are in fact no character names for the roles the major actors will play, so it’s very intriguing. I think Elizabeth Debicki could turn out to be Cobb’s daughter Phillipa in your theory.
if they turn out to be cobbs kids that will be so sick i will be mind blown
just checked and there still isnt any names listed for the major characters....
i hope to god this turns out to be true!!1!
Imagine if it's actually a trilogy and there's the third film released in July 2030. I doubt Michael Caine would still be around but I'd love it
Freeze Michael now, thaw him out later 😁❄
Well if it was planned ahead, he could easily have his scenes in the bag already.
@@raksh9 or at least shoot a bunch of scenes with Caine and a load ambiguous dialogue that they can crowbar into the the third film later
@@alasdairthomson7510 That's entirely possible to do, although I wonder how Michael Caine would react to being told he won't be acting in another ten years!
You underestimate the power of CGI.
It wouldn't surprise me if all of Christopher Nolan's movies are all in the same universe.
All of Quentin Tarantino's movies are.
so there are multiple Samuel L. Jackson in that universe? Seems amazing
Helge no, Sam Jackson is a god pretending to be different people
@@dannert Jackson isn't the only actor with multiple roles. The characters are either related somehow or are playing a part in the movie universe within the movie itself. Tarantino explained it in an interview a while back.
@@IIONNICC I just used him as an example.
@@dannertI think it's fine. Tarantino makes great and very unique movies.
Hilarious, and extremely convincing. And if anyone could pull this off, it's Nolan.
But here's the problem. Even Nolan couldn't pull this off. Inception spent almost 25% of its run time just explaining the rules of its world. And while fan theorists love the idea of a film resolving through set-up from a previous, and only tenuously connected, previous film, Nolan knows better. He would never just resolve a film by saying, "It was all a dream. remember Inception? This is part of that." Because despite its popularity, Nolan would never rely on fans remembering Inception. He didn't even rely on fans knowing the previous films of his Batman trilogy. Each film, for all their flaws, was meticulously constructed to be experienced without knowledge of the previous ones.
Which brings us back to Inception. In order to integrate that film into this one, he'd have to re-explain all the rules of dream extraction and inception for those who'd never seen the previous film, while also explaining the new rules of time reversal. That would most likely require 50% of the film being exposition about the rules of its universe.
Bottom line, you can't build a film a pay-off to a set-up from a separate film. That's only half a film. It's Deus ex Easter Egg. Nolan wouldn't do it.
That is really strange how they havn't revealed the names of any of the main characters in the movie, including Michael Caine who likely only has a more minor role.
I REALLY hope this is true. Rock solid argument, Panwa.
Thanks mate!
Literally what I was going to say, I feel like if Tenet isn't this, I won't enjoy it as much
@@210rebelboy Then get ready to be surprised.
It isn't true lol
Emma Thomas said on Total Film’s magazine that it isn’t a sequel to inception or story wise related to it. She said Tenet is ITS OWN THING. The only things that can be compared are the genre bending qualities and atmosphere of the films. I hope what she said is true because we need more originals not sequels or shared universes.
Fun fact: the main character is Denzel Washington’s son!
I didn't realize Leo was Denzel Washington's son! 😲
Nathanael Abbott look it up dipshit
@@Bonezy1001 you are so agro!
John David Washington
Starred in "Ballers" with the rock
Interesting
It may cost more than Inception simply because of inflation and increased costs of production.
I'm pretty sure Christopher Nolan knows what he is doing with the money. He is well known and know everything about the movie business, i don't think he will get any bad deals.
@@ZacNorth that doesn't really have to do with inflation chief
Lux 78 i never said that. I just came up with another factor that could contribute to the increased budget.
I was looking for this comment 😂
The new Inception sequel: Inflation
"Where is that cash going to"
Me: It's going backwards
- "So where is that cash going to?"
- It's not going... It's coming.
inverted money lol
@@aah3703 it'd probably be impossible to own inverted cash, you can't put them into your wallet. They'll reverse their entropy and slide right out.
I started laughing when he said Leonardo DifuckingCaprio😭
To address the budget increase theory: 10 years of inflation. $160M in 2010 would inflate to $188M in 2020...AKA nearly the same budget of Tenet.
Also...Inception was filmed only in 35mm and 65mm from what I understand....while Tenet is going farther in terms of using IMAX and 70mm film stock.
Tenet also has apparently done a TON of international filming at crazy locations, and that plane crash isn't just any plane crash....I believe it is actually the largest plane on the planet or something crazy like that.
airbus A380: am i a joke to you
Still, the prospect of it being a sequel delights me.
65 and 70 is the same thing
In the world of cinema, sequels are almost always a guarantee for profit and huge budgets get approved way easier.
Let's say I am a movie study. Would I be willing to give Nolan such a huge budget on a new franchise (always high risk), or would I make sure to spend it on a sequel?
amiajoketo U Antonov: Am I a joke to you??
“I’d say [Tenet] is an in-law to Inception,” Washington said. “They’re related by marriage. They get together for Thanksgivings, family barbecues, like that kind of thing. Other than that, one lives in Europe, the other one lives in Compton.”
I think you may be on to something here, maybe not a sequel but perhaps set in the same world
Yep I heard that too :)
Maybe just a spiritual sequel?
Yeah maybe michael caines character will be the same person
Who said this?
jesus i'm already freaking out......... i really hope this is true
Hahaha great!
i feel like nolans ideas are so original its har to guess. the trailers give us nothing because he controls the trailers unlike most directors
@@Reelcargo which is why Nolan is, in my opinion, arguably one of the greatest if not greatest directors of all time. This man is in a class of his own. He is like the Albert Einstein of movie cinema. He is a fucking genius!
Conspiracy theory I just came up with:
Cobbs wife wasn't crazy... she actually did escape to reality by killing herself... Cobb Is stuck in dream state and most of his team either accepted it as their reality and forgot the truth, or were just projections of Cobbs mind. That is why cobbs daughter was raised by his wife and actually has a French accent. Idk how else she could have a French accent if cobbs wife died when the girl was just 3 or 4 years old
I like your thinking
Michael cane, the kids grandpa in Inception, confirmed a couple of years ago that every scene he appears in is in fact reality. The legendary ending in inception where they stop the scene to make the audience wonder if it was reality or a dream has in fact been confirmed by Michael Cane himself. Great theory though, but I strongly doubt it.
I like this theory. I've always believed Cobb was still dreaming at the end of Inception, as we don't see Mal's totem, the top, fall. Arthur tell's Ariadne that a totem has to be personal, "that way when you look at your totem, you know beyond a doubt that your not in someone else's dream". I think Cobb is being deceived by Mal's totem the entire time and is stuck in his own dream. Sure, Michael Caine says Christopher Nolan told him he was only in reality scenes, but I think that could be a misdirect in itself. Having these two movies connect together and having that answer would be pretty satisfying.
The top, wobbly or not, has no bearing on whether Cobb was dreaming or not. It's not his totem. His is his wedding ring.
Ending scene of Tenet:
-Washington and Pattison are in a govt facility after they saved the world like: "that was crazy, almost as crazy as that dream sharing program that got axed years ago."
-Mysterious figure walks into the room like: "Oh it wasn't axed"....... The figure is revealed to be Leonardo DiCaprio aka Dom Cobb.
The audience shits their pants.
(excuse the lame dialogue but you get the idea lol. It would be insane)
Knowing Nolan he probably wouldn't do it
The NCU (Nolan Cenimatic Universe) or is it the TCU (Time Cenimatic Universe).
Not lame at all! Can’t wait to shit my pants!
Better yet what if the tenet was a dream that had to be fixed to save the real future that's why time can do whatever??
Tbf I assume Cobb wouldn't be working since he is back with his kids. Joseph Gordon-Levitt or Tom Hardy however...
Pattinson was shown after” the dark knight”
And Inception! Guess the trailer editors are excited for Matt Reeves' Batman as well :)
Anirban Ghosh yup it’s a really nice nod to Nolan’s other masterpiece , great editing
@@flickfanatics7948 Pattinson was shown after the Dark Knight title card but before the Inception one.
Pattinson is shown after the Inception card too. He's carrying a briefcase which looks similar to the PASIV Device onces in Inception
he is the son of batman
If I were a Nolan, and you got this right, I’d send you a suitcase filled with 5k cash and a post-it note that says: “Well done, chap.”
Hahahah brilliat!
@@flickfanatics7948 Man, seriously I don't know whether it is going to happen as you predicted. But your ideas and points are so convincing that you should start writing your own movies. If Nolan got to know about it then seriously he will get his next movie idea. Awesome man.
It would say, "Who is John G.?"
Inversion should be the name of Tenet movie because: INVERSION, INTERSTELLAR, INCEPTION
INSOMNIA
In The Prestige
Inmemento
...
insomnia too
They're re-releasing Inception back in theaters due to Tenet being delayed by two weeks. Could it be because of the 10 year anniversary or other reasons???
Probably because of the 10 year anniversary
Since when do movies get rereleased on 10 year anniversaries 🤔
@@myetoob23 all the time lol
It’s not they are releasing it because they want people to see it because maybe tenet is a sequel. Just a theory btw
I live in Ireland and of course I'm not going to spoil the movie but Tenet has nothing to do with Inception
Boy you are amazing , I clicked to know now how wrong you are going to be but what you said might be very possible. My mind is blown, now it can't be reblown I hope your theory is wrong.
Hahaha thanks!
Shyamalan hides a trilogy: 😴
Nolan hides a trilogy: 👀
Shamalamananaman's was not good.
Hey everyone! Thank you so much for the largely positive reaction to the video. A lot of the comments made are addressing similar things so I thought I'd respond to some of them here:
Higher budget due to inflation: Ok fair enough, that's a good point no argument there.
Nolan bought a real plane to crash into a real hangar: Also fair enough that's a good point no argument there.
If it takes place a few decades further than Inception, Michael Caine would be 90-100, he is 87 in real life. Also using time manipulation to extend life isn't exactly out of the question.
Phillipa speaks with a French accent and James doesn't. Maybe because she is the older child and was able to spend more time with her mother before she died. She also might live in Paris which is where we first meet Michael Caine in Inception.
Robert Pattinson was shown after the Dark Knight not Inception in the trailer. There is a shot of him after both so that furthers my point if anything.
A number of people have said the cast and crew have already said it's a sequel or at least in the same universe without providing evidence. I would genuinely love to know where you heard that from and if you're referring to the recent interview with Washington, he says they are "related by marriage" and goes on to use various metaphors about their connection or lack thereof without ever truly confirming Tenet's nature as an out and out sequel.
On the other end of the spectrum are those who have cited the recent Total Film interview where Nolan and Emma Thomas say that Tenet has no relation to Inception or something of the sort. Only way I can respond to this was JJ Abrams denied that Benedict Cumberbatch was playing Khan and the Russos denied Endgame was the title for the fourth Avengers film. Just saying.
Finally, there is a group of circus clowns saying Nolan has never and will never make sequels. I find it interesting how they just choose to forget about the Dark Knight trilogy so they can support their denial. And when I have had the rare occasion of someone saying that trilogy of films doesn't count as they are not Nolan's original ideas and an auteur direction of his caliber would never do sequels, I can only respond with evidence and logic. Scorsese's the Colour of Money is a sequel to the Hustler. Villenueve's Blade Runner 2049 is a sequel to Blade Runner. Wes Anderson's Hotel Chevelier was a short released as a prequel to the Darjeeling Limited. Edgar Wright has his Cornetto Trilogy, Fincher's Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was designed as a first film in an unfortunately cancelled trilogy. Pretty much all of Tarantino's films take place in the same universe. Sequels/ Spiritual sequels from Auteurs have existed for as long film itself. I'm sure Charlie Chaplin, Akira Kurosawa and Sergio Leone would attest to that if they were around. Oh yea and of course SPLIT, that's a film people have been mentioning in the comments. I could also drop the Godfather part 2 bomb but I think they've had enough for one day. None of these people ever made sequels until they did. You could easily say M. Night doesn't make sequels but that statement would be redundant following the release of Split and Glass. Please be so kind as to open your minds a little more.
As for the rest of you lovely folks. Thank you once again for the support and I'm glad many of you enjoyed the video. Thank you for speaking with eloquence, reason and using evidence to support your differing views. I hope you are all safe during these harsh times and hope that you enjoy Tenet no matter what it turns out to be!
You touched on some interesting points and even opened my eyes to some possibilities of the up coming movie. Great analytical work even if it doesn't happen. I'm hoping some of your theories will be shown. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@@deleonisemo1806 Thank you!
@@flickfanatics7948 your theory is so ridiculous and absurd...god damn I love it! I for sure got Inception vibes instantly from the trailer but I didn't even consider half the stuff you talk about in your vid. Like Leo's kids having prominent roles in Tenet. Awesome theory man...you just got a new subscriber!
Actually it is an interstellar sequel
Another connection between the two movies is that both the names "Tenet" and "Inception" mean "beginning" in their own way. And that doesn't happen with any of Nolan's other movies.
Even if your conjecture is way off base... Man, this was an entertaining watch! I got excited from just hearing your ideas! Thank you.
Thank you for enjoying it!
Regarding the cost, $160M in 2010 is around $195M today. Just 10M short of $205M.
Also, I think a lot of people knew Matt Damon was in Interstellar because he was credited on IMDB even before the movie’s release
Uhhh...check your math buddy...
This video is like Inception an Idea that grows in your mind that defines who you are and now i am thinking more about it if the theory doesn't come true it may destroy me 😂
Hahahah! Best hope it comes true then :)
Awesome
I’ve had the same theory ever since the title of the movie was announced. Tenet: “a principle or belief, especially one of the main principles of a religion or philosophy.”.... sounds very similar to that other one we’ve heard before: an idea. “ there's something you should know about me... about inception. An idea is like a virus, resilient, highly contagious. The smallest seed of an idea can grow. It can grow to define or destroy you.”
Love that, especially the how Nolan fans are just over-analyzing everything cus we love his films that much :)
How come no one is talking about the fact that the time stuff is called 'INVERSION'. (Inversion. Inception.)
Nolan always makes movies about ideas/principles/belief that can grow to define or destroy you. What's so great about The Joker in the dark knight is that his whole aim is to get bruce wayne to break his one principle, his one rule of never killing. Memento is about a guy with short term memory but has planted the false belief in himself that he is chasing the man that killed his wife and hasn't done so already. Batman begins being about fear, of course. Other examples like Bane in the dark knight rises also
This might be the only film theory that's convinced me
Very bold and respectable swing and miss
If you're right, this will have been the most insightful incredible prediction I've ever seen on TH-cam.
As much as I love inception, I think that this being a sequel to it would ruin the ending, something that I feel Nolan wouldn’t do. That being said however, I think what he would do is make the ending of inception vague- say when someone asks “James” about his father he says “he left for a long time” and then if the person the asks if he ever came back, James just replies with a blank stare, which could be interpreted a myriad of ways. The only problem would be how to preserve the more outlandish inception theories, such as Cobb is dreaming the entire time and Mal is trying to wake him up, though if the fact that this was a sequel was true, I have no doubt Nolan would make enough grey area to preserve that.
Damn.....you make an excellent point!
The concert hall (Ukrainian Opera House in the movie) is called Linnahall, it is situated in Tallinn, Estonia. It's not functioning for many years now, waiting for very expensive renovation. So it was pretty cheap to rent for Nolan.
I see! That's actually a brilliant piece of info thanks :)
3:35 "where is all that money going to?"
Its going to the freakin plane he wants to crash 😂
With no survivahs!
Actually, Tenet takes place completely in the tesseract from Interstellar, with Matthew Mcconaughey controlling time and everyone by tapping some books
Imagine reversing time within a dream... within a dream...
It would be more realistic than reversing time in real life, actually.
You had me almost till the end. Then you said "bringing the near-unlimited time FOUND in Limbo" and I'm like, listen son. Limbo doesn't have infinite time. It doesn't take place in the Dark Dimension from Doctor Strange, which exists outside our definition of time; or the fifth dimension from Interstellar, where our definition of time is a physical dimension. Limbo, in all its entirety, takes place in one's mind, where, in comparison to normal reality, the brain activity is accelerated, which causes PERCIEVED time to be longer than actual time passed. You aren't changing time there, you are, just in your personal frames of references, experiencing more time within actual elapsed time. You could call it relative time, but I think "subjective" time better describes the gist of it, simply because you aren't doing anything to affect time for others, you're just perceiving it differently for yourself.
and this is why you cant hook up grills
My thoughts exaclty
But the data processed is so massive.... That we can almost evolve into something else in Limbo.
Its been hours since ive seen your video and I can’t think of anything else. Im gonna be really sad now if this isn’t an inception sequel
Jeez I'm glad it had such an effect :)
While I think your theories are interesting. I’ve watched countless hours of Nolan interviews and I just can’t imagine he’d do something like this. He’s often said that he’s never liked doing sequels for the sake of it. And I can’t imagine what gain either film would get from being related, besides satisfying super geeks like ourselves?? None of these theories are compelling enough to warrant connecting the 2 movies, at least in my opinion. It’s one of those ideas I feel he’d detest to be honest. It’s far more likely that they are related in a very subtle way ie. they could take place in the same world or universe; almost like a character from Inception could bump into a character from Tenet just walking down the street. Clever theories though!
Thanks! I too would also just love a standalone film :)
Maybe money is the reason for a sequal... You can't know for sure
Nolan was also the same man that said he wouldn't put a version of Robin in his Batman movies and then we all saw what happened at the end of Dark Knight Rises.
deomartinez77
Aside from his literal name, he had barely any resemblance to any of the Robins. He took up the mantle of Batman, not Robin, so Nolan didn’t lie. A small easter egg means nothing
MtheOP what would be the financial* benefit of making a closet sequel? If money was the reason they would be marketing it as THE SEQUEL TO INCEPTION....
Even if it's just your theory, you didn't disappoint at all.
This video is when you throw spaghetti at the wall and none of it sticks.
lmaoooo
Before Watching this Video:
I was hyped for a Nolan Level Film.
After Watching this Video:
I am hyped for an Avengers Level Film.
I'm pumped for this to be True 🤞.
I doubt they would do this because then they’d have to answer whether or not Dom is dreaming at the end. Would kinda ruin the theme of Inception.
I know he addressed this, but it would make Inception much less impactful.
This is the exact reason i think it has nothing to do with inception
Dom’s totem isn’t the top, once you discover what his real totem is it becomes easy to see whether he’s dreaming or not
Bradfrad
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Bradfrad haven’t heard that but also haven’t ever looked into it, I like that tho, either way the Top is just a distraction and everyone got played waiting to see it fall 😂
Bradfrad I don’t know if the gun would be a good totem based on the rules established in the movie. I mean he could have shaved part of it off to a certain degree, but if he didn’t there are thousands of that pistol model in circulation around the world.
Why do i have goosebumbs. The ambition and audacity are unparalleled if this turns out to be true.
Their character names are on IMDb now. Robert Pattinson being "Neil" and Elizabeth Debicki "Kat". So...
Sounds like the Tenet we deserve as well as the Tenet we want.
That is a really interesting theory. Now I’m even more hype to see this movie. The idea of a surprise character like in interstellar has me feeling like I have to see this opening night 😆
Brillaint!
Btw I just wanna say something, I didn’t watch interstellar and I watched this video before that! So the Matt Damon cameo was a spoiler but I watched it interstellar this Friday and I just got sucked into the movie that I forgot everything about Matt a Damon’s cameo, and then when he did come it was the most unexpected thing, that’s why I love Christopher Nolan he’s an absolute genius and his movies just suck you into the story and blows you away! I wanna be a director when I’m grown up and Nolan will be a major influence to me as well as to many others!
You want to be a director and you just watched interstellar? Get lost.
@@willhmartinez why?
@@ZaidMalol i think william's saying you should watch all these great movies as soon as possible, and the fact that you didn't see interstellar was weird because it's a really great movie and as a director you should learn from other directors' great works.
But try not to get tunnle vision!
If you want be a director than be one, and don't let anyone stop you.
really love the idea of the kids being all grown up and involved in the film, I reckon you're spot on there, especially with james
Very interesting snapping with Matt d being hidden. This gives me hope...
Lmao, why are people disagreeing and saying "go watch the movie"? This was posted last MAY and was just a fan theory, smh
it hasn't released yet anyways
New interview 👀
Tenet is “an in-law to Inception“, a star of the forthcoming Christopher Nolan movie has revealed.
John David Washington, who portrays the film’s secret agent protagonist, said the film is linked in some way to Nolan’s 2010 time-bending film starring Leonardo DiCaprio.
“I’d say [Tenet] is an in-law to Inception,” Washington told Esquire in a new interview. “They’re related by marriage. They get together for Thanksgivings, family barbecues, like that kind of thing. Other than that, one lives in Europe, the other one lives in Compton.”
Saw that as well, great to see you bring in sources to support arguments, a lot of people in the comments haven't seemed to bother backing anything they say so thank you!
@@flickfanatics7948 Well, theories should always have a solid foundation i believe.
I believe the main plot device will be time inversion using Maxwell's demon / entropy as shown by the equations written on a shooting range. We might also be dealing with multiple universes, the many worlds theory and quantum entanglement.
I think the best we can hope for is that both films share the same universe and that there's a brief crossover...
But I'm hoping for more of course
Your analysis gave me goosebumps. I wish this comes true..
Something to consider is that the two main characters of Tenet work for Cobol Engineering. It's possible they are hunting down Cobb and his team.
because time flows irregularly they are both parallel and sequels to each other, the end of inception/beginning of tenet being the starting point and moving counter our time through each reaching the beginning of inception and end of tenet which is also a parallel mid point
lmao everyone in the comments is acting like they didn't believe in this theory a few weeks ago...
You are absolutely right on one thing...
This is a ludicrous theory!
Indeed lol
Many of Nolans films deal with different types of magic trick - vanishing, transportation & escape. Saving his own deceptive one for a movies release would be right on point. Would love it to be true.
A crazy, crazy fan theory.
I love both don’t care if they are connected or not. My personal favorites from Nolan
Same
I really loved Tenet..... I also wish it was an Inception sequel though.... but I’m happy with what we got 😅
This is actually a pretty backed up, solid prediction
1 - "Feels like Inception"
So? Nolan loves doing high profile Summer blockbuster action. Tenet is a pretty natural step for him
2 - "Release at the start of a new decade"
Just a coincidence. No argument here.
3 - "Similar font in Trailer"
Means nothing. His team liked using it, it's pretty standard and looks good. No argument here.
4 - "Tenet shouldn't be 45 million dollars more"
Why? Is Nolan not allowed to make a more expensive, bigger film? We haven't seen it yet, so it could probably have a shit ton of set pieces and sequences that are bigger than Inception's. They shot the film in a dozen different countries, so there's part of the answer.
5 - "Secretly casting other actors"
This I can partially believe. It's your strongest argument.
However, maybe Nolan decided to spend less on casting and more on bombastic set pieces and sequences. He bought a god damn 747 for that plane scene for pete's sake. So again, a more expensive film overall.
6 - "Michael Cane in both films"
He's been in most Nolan films. He likes working with him.
7 - "Those two could be his kids"
Could be. I could see this happening, but again, still only plausible.
8 - "Pattnison is shown after Inception"
WRONG he's shown after they show the dark knight trilogy thing. Do your research ;)
Overall, making a sequel to one of his other movies to cash in and milk it is NOT how Nolan operates, as he's always had a passion for new original stories. Making a sequel to Inception would be out of left field, and frankly I'd lose a tad bit respect for the man.
But good video nonetheless. Who knows what will happen. If this turns out to be true, I'll come back here and eat my words lol.
Amazing points of rebuttal. Pattinson is shown after both (I edited the video mate, I've seen the trailer upwards of 80 times haha) And yea I'd agree it's not Nolan's style to make sequels, the budget used on the real plane definitely bumps things up. Just penny for your thoughts but thank you for your detailed points and kind words of conclusion. I always appreciate healthy disagreements, they get more and more rare these days my friend :)
@@flickfanatics7948 I may have come across as a bit of an asshole lol. You did a fantastic job, dude.
@@joaosantos5503 Not at all. Besides you're points and delivery are more genuine than most and I'd take that over perfectly polite any day of the week :)
@@flickfanatics7948 Btw what do you think of John David Washington in the lead role? I'm not that big of a fan, since he always seems to play himself, and from the trailers I've seen he seems rather monotonous.
Inception to me was great also due to its emotional side and the characters' journeys. Cobbs reunion with his kids definitely tugged at the heartstrings a bit. I'm worried tenet may forgo stuff like that.
@@joaosantos5503 I think if Nolan made Harry Styles convincing he can do close to anything as a director of actors but I've also felt that Nolan has always been the biggest star of his films with the actors serving the story and no necessarily popping. The only time this wasn't the case was Heath Ledger I think :)
This is an amazing theory, I love the attention to detail and the overarching additional complexity this would bring to Inception, a movie part of my Top 5 of all time. That being said, I think this is way too ambitious to be real. Disappointingly enough, I believe the links we can see between Inception and Tenet are just some very Nolan-esque characteristics which you can find in every movie of his. Nonetheless, if you're right, you should be winning the lottery right about the next day.
165m in 2010 is 196m in 2020, so it costs almost the same.
Let this be a lesson in how easily we can convince ourselves of stuff that is not even remotely there.
Nolan himself said tenet has way more set pieces than inception.
Could be all of Tenet is just just someone's inception dream.
So they can get in someone's head, but now can reverse time in the dream.
This has aged like fine wine hasn’t it?
This theory was more interesting to me personally than the actual movie. You had SO much convincing evidence, man.
When you’re a director who makes a movie and then watches a TH-cam video about that movie and you think can I just recut my movie because this idea is great🤔
I like your theory and reasoning but I imagine that if there was a tie in it would be very small. Similar to how split had that small cameo of Bruce Willis at the end. Maybe he will do a full on combination film later.
Ooooh, an Inceptionverse trilogy, now that would be something!
Inception is definitely one of those movies that deserves it's own universe. That movie is such a masterpiece!
I'd see that movie hahaha great theory! The one problem I find in it is that I don't believe Nolan would risk ruining the ending of Inception just to make a sequel, the ambiguous nature of it is what kept the conversation going for a decade, if you give it an answer you kill it.
Yep agreed. That's the one big downside :)
Or it could be an anthology of the same world , not necessarily a prequel
But maybe the ending is there to build some continuity? I know it's not nolan style but who can say no right?
Easy, dude. Nolan will not make it obvious. It will be a sequel but it won't be rubbed in your face. The links will be yours to connect.
Really couldn’t have been more wrong here
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I think also the biggest clues would be in the score itself. Hans Zimmer and Chris Nolan make every bpm, every crescendo and decrescendo, every instrument wildly intentional (as understand in literally all of Zimmer's interviews). Has anyone listed to the complete score of TENET yet and found any homage to the Inception score? (music nerds, DEPLOY!! solve this mystery!)
I DID IT! YOUR COMMENTARY CAUSED ME TO WAKE UP WITH THE ANSWER!!!
I’ve always had this ability to rewind my dream if I die and replay it and find another way to do it where I don’t die... that’s what this guy did at the train!!! He’s a very special lucid dreamer!!!!!
Isn’t the budget actually $225,000,000
According to Wikipedia it's 205 but I do also remember hearing that it was 225. I guess the more expensive, the more it plays into my ideas haha :)
@@flickfanatics7948A big budget is by far the best argument. Even after the success of Interstellar, Dunkirk only got a $100 million budget.
In the world of cinema, sequels are almost always a guarantee for profit and huge budgets get approved way easier.
Let's say I am a movie study. Would I be willing to give Nolan such a huge budget on a new franchise (always high risk), or would I make sure to spend it on a sequel?
It would be awesome if it was a sequel and Leos character was pulled back in.
what if Kenneth and John are fighting each other in limbo and then John dies in the dream by getting run over by a train just as Dom Cobb and his wife and comes back to reality in that scene in which that guy says "welcome to the after-life"!!?
There are new rumors surfacing that Nolan is making an Inception spin off, so he may be interested in building some sort of cinematic universe
@Anthony Okeiyi we got this covered