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Despite its obvious convolutions, I'll probably check out Tenet when it hit video. If for no other reason than it's so outside of the horse shit Hollywood's been crankin' out over the past decade.
I dunno, in the first half of the movie I had no idea what was going on... but then all of a sudden, in the second half of the movie.. i had absolutely 100% no idea what was going on
Well you aren't missing much... the more you understand, the more you realize that the concept of inverted objects is kind of unworkable in the real world.
The thing I love msot about Christopher Nolan is that he hasn't stopped trying new things and a improving upon the formula that has made him so much money. A lesser director would just make inception over and over again and get rich off of it but Nolan is constantly trying to be better. While certain things he tries don't pay off I still respect the effort.
His film, "Interstellar" for me, remains easily amongst my top 10 films of all time. I'm a sci-fi geek when it comes to film and the ponderous, philosophical combined with genuine scientific implications of that film absolutely astonished me after seeing that one! I just love both the "wormhole scene" and then finally the more famous, "Black hole" scene exist as some of the greatest cinematic, mindbogglingly beautiful scenes ever put to film.
Plus his willingness to use practical effects over massive CGI when practical effects are less expensive-the plane crash into the hanger, for example...
Memento is still one of my all time facourites. Inception and Interstellar are also excellent movies. I really enjoyed Tenet. I appreciate a good mind fuck.
It's insane how calm and accepting of the 'Reverse Entropy" The Protagonist is. he is just like 'Okay, I get it, no big deal". really, I would have like a million questions.
@@tf2scoutpunch175 sure, if you're actually curious. For example: In quantum vacuum fluctuations two virtual particles appear spontaneously. Lets say its an electron with spin +1/2, negative charge and regular matter. The partner particle will be a positron, an electrons antiparticle. That Positron will have negative energy, positive charge and -1/2 spin. Their properties cancel each other out. in this case you can assume (according to CPT symmetry) that the positron isn't actually an anti particle with positive charge and -1/2 spin but rather the regular electron traveling back in time. Due to the time reversal the spin goes from +1/2 to -1/2, the properties reverse from negative to positive charge. (negative and positive energy are negligible here because they don't have anything to do with reverse entropy and only serve to keep the energy sum at 0 to not violate thermodynamics) This is only one example. But the fact that positrons, and any anti particle for that matter, is the regular particle with reversed entropy has been well studied. However this only works in theory from a mathematical standpoint. We may never know wether it is actually traveling back in time. However, from what we know it is very well possible. Here is an article for more info: phys.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Modern_Physics/Supplemental_Modules_(Modern_Physics)/Antimatter If you're curious, quantum fluctuations are a very fascinating phenomenon worth looking up. I gave you the short version. But he appearance of energy out of nothing does not violate thermodynamics. crazy stuff
@OG_Dacs yea we went to see the new mutants. It was a theater where you order food. Had to order it and go get it when it was ready, no more waiters. Could only drink at the bar. I missed the first 15 minutes. And beside they raised the prices so much. We went to a early show. Tickets, two burger and fries was over 75 bucks. Each movie ticket was 15 bucks. I'm done with movie theaters
@@HOLLASOUNDS That's not so hard. Once you have the knowledge and one machine in the future, you can simply send the INFORMATION on how to build one back, then have someone else build it in the past. That's pretty much how Andrei built his empire: With some information and gold from the future.
@@dominicpascal5512 That's a paradox, and something I used to think about long before this film come out. I get sent information on how to build a time machine from the future the person got the information on how to build the time machine because they already have the information because the guy built the time machine in the past. Long story short Nobody actually ever designed the time machine it just exists in a loop.
What I like about Nolan is that he trusts the audience to figure things out instead of a typical Hollywood thriller that walks you through step by step what is happening or at least makes the outcome obvious and clichéd. Tenet is indeed a huge technical achievment but is lacking in emotional impact that steals from the films potential. Nolan's next film about Oppenhiemmer will I hope be more balanced...
Okay No lie, me and my family were watching this movie on a DVD and we reached a moment in the movie where an entire scene played over and over, and due to the premise of this movie, we thought that's what was supposed to happen, so each time it repeated we thought it was part of the movie. When we figured out the DVD player was rewinding the scene it pretty much added another hour onto it. So, that was a good way to spend Christmas Eve.
I just realised that the thing that makes Drinker so captivating is that he delivers a college-level literature thesis while speaking like your drunk roommate Hank who eats stove-fried beans at eleven at night
@@mikespearwood3914 He's got a game review on his channel from a little over a year ago but I can't remember which one. I almost thought it wasn't him. I found it, resident evil 6 a retrospective.
"But it stands out as more of an impressive technical achievment rather than a gripping story that you care about" perfectly sums up my feelings about Nolan films
some of his movies have really engaging plots and they unravel those plots in an interesting and fun way like memento, inception, the prestige and the dark knight (pretty straight forward but the joker plan comes along slowly as the movie goes)
For his worst movies, yeah that's the case. The movies that I think did a good job at balancing intriguing plot and engaging storytelling are Memento, Inception, Interstellar, and the first two Dark Knight movies.
In Tenet, after the big military battle and the death of Sator, the Protagonist and Neil have a conversation where it dawns on the Protagonist that he is the architect and Neil is his greatest friend. It is clearly meant to be a moving scene, given the tears streaming down the Protagonist's face. However, it left me completely blank and confused. Christopher Nolan must have buried himself in this theoretical headfuck world for too long and lost the perspective of the audience, or perhaps he just wanted to write a more headfucky movie than Primer.
This is true. The movie reminded me of Quantum of Solace, though it did have some wry remarks about time travel too. The first half is Quantum of Solace. The second half is better than that.
The Prestige was the pinnacle of Nolan for me, it had a great story, lots of layers/twinned elements, it was clever, well acted, challenging to the watcher without becoming impenetrable, a fabulous, cinegenius film.
Realy? A magician that uses instantaneous cloning in the late 19th century and creates a new version of himself in every performance he makes thus having to kill his extra copies, all out of spite because another magician has a trick he cannot reverse-engineer, THAT's Nolan's pinnacle for you? ROFL
@@lm7_gio calling it the pinnacle of Nolan was misguided but the movie was pretty good, describing it in a negative way won't change that. Jonathan Nolan writes some pretty good stuff
@@lm7_gioYou literally do not know what happened in a movie that you're trashing. "The Prestige" act is the movie itself and you are the audience that has been fooled.
"prioritizing grandiose intellectual concepts at the expense of crafting an emotionally satisfying narrative with strong and interesting characters" is the most eloquent and comprehensive description of Christopher Nolan I've ever heard
@MajimasMajimemes seen memento? Dark knight? Insomnia? Overrated but still good interstellar? He's a very good and thought provoking film maker, I didn't like tenet from my first viewing, but I didn't get anything either.
I consider this film to be close to as good as inception which is my favorite Nolan films. Nolan has made some great films and some films that are just ok but he hasn’t made a bad film yet, and that’s an achievement compared to other directors. One of my favorite directors.
@You Didn't See Graphite, Because It's Not There Denis Villeneuve - Basically you are saying I should see the new Dune film... I was not going to, BUT NOW I WILL! All adaptations will be a disappointment, as I read the book straight through in 3 days W/O sleeping... IMHO
Tenet's biggest lesson is that please give Nolan, a Bond movie to direct. That way, he can't over-complicate the plot beyond an acceptable limit and still bring the best of his directorial tools to the game.
Bond movies are embarrassing relics from a bygone era. Tenet was Nolan's big dumb action movie and it was smarter than every other big dumb action movie combined.
@@The_ScapeGoat yeah I keep asking myself to pretend it's a Michael Bay movie, and hey, it's not so bad! I think we're being too harsh on Nolan's take on the action genre, however it tries so hard to convince you it's intellectually captivating film-watching experience, when it's almost impossible to see it that way on the first watch. The set-pieces alone are inventive and original. Definitely a good take on a Mission: Impossible film, essentially what it is.
Actually I want to give Nolan something like a black comedy, where two aging brothers played by Ron Pearlman and Tom Waits have to bury their dad/scatter his ashes. Ones a waster bum, the other the owner of a blues bar on the east coast and hate each other. They have to go on a road trip across america to see all the places he wanted before he died and a way to get them to reconsile. Its about generations and rebels realising time moves without them and they meet a woman Chloe Moretz that is becoming them. But its complex in timelines and a web of set ups over decades that pay off in this trip. Waits, the waster has a studebaker cliche and Pearlman quips "what are you a fucking muppet? I aint driving in that"
@@pennedarts A movie script which took the director about 2 years to invent and another 5 years or so to figure out, even though it was stolen from a television episode which aired over 20 years ago. That sounds about right for Hollywood's finest.
I went into this movie really wanting to enjoy it. I'm not one of those people that thinks that everything Nolan touches turns to gold, but I have very much enjoyed some of his past movies, such as Memento, The Prestige, Inception, and even Interstellar (even though I acknowledge that it has some story flaws). The thing is, each one of those films has a central character that I came to care about. I cared about the motivations for the characters that Guy Pearce, Hugh Jackman, Leonardo Dicaprio, and Matthew McConaughey played in those films. In this film, it felt to me that the characters are essentially stand-ins for concepts, even more so than in some of Nolan past films, and ultimately I ended up feeling kind of lukewarm about this film when it was over. There were definitely some amazing moments, and I wouldn't say that I completely disliked it, but I walked away feeling that it is unlikely that I'll have the burning desire to watch it again, despite the fact that repeat viewings would probably be interesting on an intellectual level. Also, I agree with this review in that the sound mixing is just incredibly bad for a big-budget film. There were indeed moments where I had trouble understanding what was being said, and I work on producing music/audio on regular basis so, I use my ears critically often and yet, there were times when the dialogue in this film was almost inaudible to me.
I loved the movie the first time I watched it, second time I saw some cool details I missed but the thing about this movie is that you cant think about the concept too much because even at its core its confusing, but due to it being shot form different peoples perspectives and in different times its becomes impossible to follow or comprehend, even if you start writing the events down in a notebook (trust me). But the overall dynamic of this movie was incredible to me, the ending was perfectly tense and thrilling and the ending ending was awesome with Pattisons revelation and the ending ending ending was cool with that Indian arms dealer being shot.
I'm actually really happy to hear he was a highlight of this movie as far as acting and character goes, especially after I noticed he was in the movie while watching the review.
Nail on the head. Inception had a simple tale, made unnecessarily complicated, Too many guys were going out of their way to prove their "intelligence" by shouting how much they liked the film. But emperor Nolan often really has no clothes on. It's all vanity. I appreciate what he's trying but the novelty has worn off long ago. I still love Memento. There's something like an Occam's razor to story telling, where maintaining simplicity in it's design often is a virtue. I never feel like having to remember 10 different names or 20 different timelines.
This is simply what happens when a director as genius as Nolan is, gets too much control (re Army of the Dead, The Phantom Menace etc). I loved hearing recently that Tarantino cut his favorite scene from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Not only was it his and Leo (DeCaprio)'s favorite scene, he also believed that Julia Butters (the young girl actor from the set) would win an Oscar. Good to see that one of the best directors around is willing to let other people tell him no, and he to an extent will listen. I think Nolan could do with the same.
Nolan makes movies that sometimes work like a miracle and other times they simply don't. One thing you can credit him though is that he never produces unimaginative boring crap. In a day and age when movies tend to be safe, bland and unchallenging, Nolan is a breath of desperately needed fresh air. Whether his new movies succeed in their goal or not, they are something to look forward to and that today is a big win.
While I agree that it's nice that he likes to think outside the box, I don't think he does it from a storytelling standpoint. He has a visual or conceptual "outside the box" idea, and then shoehorns a story into it. It doesn't work for me.
Nolan's habit of making his movies as over-complicated as possible finally bit him in the ass with Tenet but I get what you are saying, he should have made this movie like he made Inception, that one is pretty easy to understand but this one is so confusing.
"For me, the standout was Robert Pattinson, who manages to switch easily between quirky, eccentric scientist, and kick ass, no nonsense spy with a bit of suave British charm thrown in for good measure. He always gives the impression that he knows more than he's letting on, and he's pretty fun to watch." -- ya got that right. He is the plot, really, and worth watching the movie for. He never disappoints.
the reason why he of all characters seems the most confident and in control is because.... he is. Some people don't agree with the whole Neil is just older Max theory, but if you follow it, it makes logical sense that he would be doing the most time travel through inverting himself, and as such, is more knowledgeable of all events in the movie than every other character. In essence, it would make him the true protagonist as the current protagonist set him on a path to help him for just this reason. After writing this comment, I realize now that talking about this movie results in a lot of circular logic that more or less just says "it happened because it happened" but in a way, thats kind of the movie's charm.
@@isaackmojica8302 yep, thought that too at the first watch. Seriously, give the movie another go, the pacing seems MUCH more forgiving the second time
@@purplespark8 actually, it was difficult. Not just the concept of reverse entropy on paper, which in itself is beyond the simple "its just goes in reverse" definition, but the fact that when shooting scenes with reversed time the filmmakers had to stage two moving sections of one scene that would have to go into the opposite direction of each other. It's not just reversing the tape back. People and props had to move backwards in real time.
He was too confident for a black person in Russia I'm sure sure or something like that. If you are trully a minority , you shouldn't bug a majority in any way and try to hide confidence or your behaviour might get very problematic and cause stereotypical hate, like racism. Western modern left really stupid to try to use minorities' validity , all they do is breed stereotypical hate on both sides, divide for power and to conquer non believers. Maybe he just had the gun exposing him, self defence is almost non existent concept ( try to prove it's self defence, most likely you'll get in jail anyways) in any not US country.
@EramSemperRecta reminds me of the Frankenstein Chronicles series on Amazon, where a black actor is cast into a white role, and nobody in Victorian England bats an eye or even acknowledges his race. It's like a weird form of blackface, somehow pretending that racism never existed.
oh man, this review is spot on. Even thinking there was a problem with the theater’s speaker system. I thought mine was going to shake apart and I even told management after that it was so loud I couldn’t understand the dialogue. Turns out, it was just Nolan.
So glad you brought up the sound mixing for the dialogue...honestly thought I was going deaf or something...I've never had to turn on subtitles for an english spoken film before
@@saftpackerl because dafoe character is more interesting, I mean hes basically a less crazy joker with an obsession with the light. Pattinson make a god damn good performance especially the accent.
@@abhinavannam9045 Actually even if you make sense of inversion while watching it first time, you should watch it second time. Movie gives you something extra second time, especially the connection between Protagonist and Pattinson's character becomes completely different and interesting.
It made sense in Interstellar where the dialogue barely mattered yet the music drove the emotions of many scenes. In Tenet it serves no purpose and only damages the film.
Brilliant, balanced analysis of this film. When I came out the Cinema I thought some of the same things (grandiose and pretentious narrative structure and visual themes at the expense of the basics of what makes a film memorable) but the sheer effort put into this film just makes me want to watch it again and again.
Your assessment of movies seems to generally match my opinion, and Tenet seems another match. I just watched this last night with my wife, and my wife had tuned out by the end of the movie, and I kept at it, hoping to be drawn in by some event that eventually sewed everything together. This didn't seem to occur, at least not to my level of intellect, I guess. ;) It was fun to look at, interesting in spots, but I found myself watching something that just didn't gel and make me invest my interest and emotion into it. A handful of scenes were quite cool visually, but I never really bought into the reverse time and how it was being integrated into the story. And that red/blue soldiers battle at the end just seemed like a bunch of guys running around shooting things you never actually saw shooting back. Felt like some kind of 'marvel cgi mess' where 1000s of characters who meant nothing were fighting battles that didn't matter.
W-Tek He’s a good actor though, and would be a good choice. I’m going to guess you don’t actually have a reason for disliking him other than “twilight bad.”
I'm might give it another shot on home release if there is subtitles because I feel like I missed half of the movie with the sound so muffled. But I doubt it will make the characters or story any more interesting.
Brad Jones had a pretty quotable review of this movie. "Imagine you're watching The Matrix, and the opening scene is the ledge scene, then 5 minutes in we have the pill scene, 15 minutes in is the lobby shootout, then an hour in we've skipped to The Matrix Reloaded and are watching the highway chase." Also "maybe it makes sense, maybe it doesn't. To hell if I know, don't ask me, I only saw the movie."
it is like watching the end of evangelion, i mean jesus christ, why do people like to confuse themselves just to pretend they're smart, movies shouldn't be unnecessarily convoluted
@@Kev7035 No no no, don't get made at other people. You and i both know the problem, the only difference being i'm willing to admit it. We're too dumb for Tenet. That's perfectly fine btw.
You know Tenet made me think a lot about The Matrix...If The Matrix hadn’t so expertly and clearly defined the rules of it’s world. That to me is the biggest weakness of Tenet. Also, remember how Tenet said that when you invert you have to provide your own oxygen and yet Kat had no oxygen mask when she went back on the boat. Things like that take me out of the film.
"Time travel. Since my first day on the job as a Starfleet captain I swore I'd never let myself get caught in one of these godforsaken paradoxes - the future is the past, the past is the future, it all gives me a headache." -Captain Janeway
What's worse is She looked just like my late grandmother! When she was in her twenties, anyways... At probably 5' 11" my grandmother was taller then average... She passed away in 1987... But I made the mistake of looking through a box of old pictures, and found nudes! My grandparents were artists... Anyways... Elizabeth Debicki made Poor John David Washington look short, even though he's a football player! IMHO
@@arnold3768 Almost exactly 2 meters. I'm not American but it honestly isn't hard to just google it. It really only gets annoying in something like a recipe where it would pretty tedious to convert dozens of measurements to metric.
Gotta say, I initially avoided TENET almost entirely because of Robert Pattinson and ultimately went in dreading it merely because he was in it. Well. Oil. Beef. Hooked. If the handsome bastard didn’t go right ahead and s almost single handedly carry everyone else on his broad shoulders with his performance and win over my cold dead heart!
Tenet is a prime example of how, no matter how smart and talented you are, no matter how much effort and skill you put into the story and execution, there is no way for time travel to make logical sense. There will always be contradictions, paradoxes, and things you just have to hand-wave away.
I've seen a lot of time travelling stories told well. This was a piece of shit because Nolan couldn't be bothered to explain anything well or get his audience to emotionally invest it anything
Time Travel is and always will be a concept that should be left to books, they have the time and ability to actually try to explain a theory. Not even a 3 hour movie can get the world building down, and if it tried there'd be no story. Basically, if a movie is gonna play with time travel, just deduct a point or two from its score and move on. It's never going to make sense.
No hes not. Hes not underrated. The world knows hes awesome and a superb performer. That knowledge is just suppressed by the social adjendas and PC culture, antifa, nazi ass, adjenda pushing jobless pieces of shit of today who have forced an opinion that if your white, make great quality films, & are talented then your nothing but the oppressor of those who can't tie thier shoes or find their way home without a damn smart phone. Who cares about how talented one person is. Its all about how mediocre everyone else is. They deserve Oscar's just for existing. Just ask them. They'll flat out tell you they do.
To me, this movie's an example of when one has more plot than story. It has a great high-concept plot that moves us through these spectacular set pieces, but very little in actual story that would've been important to understand the value of certain things beyond plot devices or people beyond their roles and tasks. Another thing about the film that really bugs me is that the movie clearly wants to be bloodier than it actually is, but they don't want to risk the PG-13 rating, so we get a lot of bloodless gunshots, stabbings, etc. Just pulls me out of the movie a bit more.
Yes, this film is built around one central concept, and everything else is secondary and unimportant, including characters. It's very technical, cold, and dispassionate. Not by mistake - I think it was intentionally made to be this way, and I absolutely love it the way it is.
@@joaquimpereira4995 Whatt about that scene where the protagonist in the freeport is trying to prevent himself from taking off the mask? They were fighting, which is a form of touching. So do you only get annihilated if you know its yourself you touched? Theres a lot of unanswered rules.
Technically still Inception lol. The whole cast is based off a production. Most notably, Cobb is the “director” of the whole operation, and who plays Cobb?
@@matthewcastillo310 Cobb even dresses like Nolan. The most interesting thing is in Inception, Cobb is asked to insert a suggestion in to Cillian Murphy's mind. Do you recall the controversy around Sandy Hook appearing in the 2nd Batman movie? Not long after, a school shooting took place in a place called, wait for it, Sandy Hook. I found it odd and I am not one to automatically believe every conspiracy hypothesis I hear. There were many interenet voices suggesting Sandy Hook appearing in one of the most lucrative movies ever was no coinsidence. To then have a similar scenario turn up in Nolan's next film was very curious indeed.
Imagine a Christopher Nolan film where the main characters travel out into space where time moves a lot slower than on Earth and then they try to perform inception on somebody whilst being inverted.
One of the biggest issues with Nolan is that he creates these visually incredible films with cool effects and concepts, but sometimes forgets to put likable, fleshed out characters into the plot.
Totally agree which is why I still think Insomnia is one of his best movies, there are no big, clever plot devices, concepts or macguffins, just a great psychological study of two broken characters in an extreme environment - sometimes less is more!
The lead actor, Denzel Washington's son, was wooden and drove a lot of the disinterest for me, Robert Pattinson was excellent. The sound balance had me reaching for the off switch on numerous occasions and the ending made me wonder why I had resisted. Time travel needs to be handled correctly and I'm not sure it ever has been. It always raises the paradox questions like "if you travel back in time to prevent X then the reason for you travelling in the first place ceases to exist, so you don't, so X happens which makes you travel back in time...... and the parallel universe explanation is bullshit too, if you're changing the events in a parallel universe then really, what's the point?. What I did find good conceptually was the incorporation of the well known physics principle that it is the flow of entropy that causes and maintains the arrow of time.
IMO tenet is better to watch as a young teen or kid because as a kid you have to assume you won't always understand everything in movies so you just go with the flow and figure out whatever you can, and in this case might make tenet more enjoyable and entertaining to watch.
"He's been responsible for some excellent movies in his career as well as The Dark Knight Rises". Ouch. But even that movie is better than 90% Hollywood movies in the past 10 years though.
I've been a huge fan since Good Time, I think hes made the exact right moves since twilight to become a well respected actor. I'm surprised he took Batman though, I would think he would be leery of these tent pole franchise pictures. High risk, high reward I guess. I'm worried the Nolan films are going to be the template, the trailer seems very reminiscent of those films. I'd like to see some risks taken. I hated that the second two films focused so much on him retiring - my head canon Batman is kind of nuts, and obsessed, would never consider stopping
@@keithmichael112 That's the Batman in most fan's headcanon. There are certain superheroes who never retire, never truly get a Hollywood happy ending. It just goes against the character too much. As such It's really annoying when writers/producers/directors don't realize this and try to force some BS ending to the character. Batman is one and Captain America is another. For Cap his sense of duty will always compel him to be a hero, plus he's a man out of time, whoever he may have wanted to be and the life he may have once thought of having all vanished when he fell into the sea. As for Batman well Bruce Wayne is the costume Batman wears in the daytime, there's no person there to ever actually have a normal life so any notion of him not being Batman is absurd.
@@thefilthyrhombus3856 it's kind of a catch 22, a reasonable person would consider that they should stop dressing like a bat and fighting crime, maybe enjoy some nice french restaurants, but they also wouldn't have started in the first place.
The scene that made me laugh was when they were explaining the world would end and everyone would disappear then Kat asks: “including my son?” Lmao really?
Holly: They're all dead. Everybody's dead, Dave. Lister: Peterson isn't, is he? Holly: Everybody's dead, Dave! Lister: Not Chen! Holly: Gordon Bennett! Yes, Chen. Everyone. Everybody's dead, Dave! Lister: Rimmer? Holly: He's dead, Dave. Everybody is dead. Everybody is dead, Dave. Lister: Wait. Are you trying to tell me everybody's dead? Holly: Should've never let him out in the first place...
Also, it doesn't stop her from going rogue right at the end which would end the world INCLUDING HER SON. What a load of shite this movie was, it turned me off CN's previous work.
Tenet improves so much on the second viewing. I loathed the film when I first saw it. I appreciate Nolan making complex films that people have to work out. In some ways, this film isn't even meant to be solved, which I find even more appealing. Don't get me wrong, I do not want every movie or the majority of movies to be like this. It's meant to be an anomaly in a world full of childish plots. His films actually inspire people to pick up quantum physics and learn some of the basics. About time someone stuck out a hand to the deliberately dumbed-down population and said, 'You're smarter than you think.' I think this is a huge part of his success. Respect leads to box office success.
This review is absolutely perfect. I left the theater thinking Nolan is basically Kojima and needs someone to reign him in. So much spectacle and high concept sci-fi, but not emotion. I feel nothing for any of the characters.
And this is the problem with Nolan in general.His movies are mostly plot/concept driven and not so character driven,or even a balanced combination of both.His best character so far is Ledger's Joker and,well,he's crearly an antagonist,elevated by the latter's great performance.
@@reneelasswell3734 Totally agree. The only connection I felt to the characters was just the baseline "hey these are the good guys, I'd rather not see them die, I suppose"
@@reneelasswell3734 You weren't supposed to get attached to the characters, their names are barely mentioned. You missed the point of the film entirely.
Tenet was Nolan out Nolaning himself. It was sort of a self-parody. It was a wink at the audience and then turning the amp up to 11. And the sound was bad on purpose, because it doesn't matter what they were saying. That's the point. Who cares what his name is, he's "generic Nolan protagonist #10." As they tell you at the beginning (where you can hear), and used extensively in the promotional campaigns "Don't try to understand it, feel it." It's just a fun action movie, with fun characters doing Nolanesque movie stuff.
So spot on about the sound balance! It was hard. I like the music but it was hard to hear parts, unless that was the intention. And it was contrived I think for that purpose. I found it hard, but I liked it. And three times watching it I get more out of it. The Protagonist was a soldier in something that was instructed by no one and for nothing much I felt/heard/saw... and I liked Tallin and the Linnahaal. You're last comment was accurate. Good to have these movies than not, but the better ones will tighten up on the ideas more with a robust script.
I have to say it just may be the cinemas that people are watching from. The only time I couldn't understand the dialog was when protagonist was listening through the window as the unboxed the gold.
@@GeryonM I was dead center. 550 seat Dolby avx. Grew up in a Hifi/home theatre store and spent 15 years as a filmmaker and did plenty of hours in full mixing suites. I couldn't follow the dialogue in at least 20 places in the film. Nolan has an issue here. He likes obscuring what people are saying with the belief that the film is visual and that the necessary pieces to carry the story as there and that the audience can put 2 and 2 together. Sometimes, he's wrong.
Exactly. Making a film that is heavily reliant on understanding its plot and different concepts and theories about time, only to make it difficult to audibly hear dialouge. Brilliant.
I saw this movie in theaters with my girlfriend at the time, because it was the only movie playing at the theater during COVID. At the end of it we both walked out like "Wait. What did we even just watch?"
I watched this movie 4 times now and I love it. I will always defend the protagonist and how his name is the protagonist and its such a complex yet fun film that I have to credit it as one of Nolan's best
One of the things I don't understand is do bullets have free will? Can you explain that. Like how TF can you catch the bullet? Looking from the 's perspective, it just can't jump, right? Makes no sense
He says "I'm the protagonist" twice in this movie. To me that's the same energy as if Morbius would have said "it's morbin time". I was really put off the first time bro said he was the protagonist lmao.
@@nithinsabu4808 i think is because of the 'cause & effect' thing, that something happen does not actually came after the 'cause'. Normally the bullet is shoot when a person fire a gun. So, the reverse bullet (somehow) appear suddenly in the rock, and need a person to aim at it to catch a bullet. The free will is on the person but not object. (is a crappy explanation I know) (btw i generally think the reverse object/human does not have free will though)
@@Moyeeshen2304 it does make sense when the shooter is also inverted along with the bullet. Like how Neil saved the protagonist in the opera. He was inverted and shot the bullet straight in his perspective, but the bullet was reversed in the protagonist pov. What I think is the lab scene is very illogical. The protagonist isn't inverted. And he catches the bullet. See, if time was travelling forward and the protagonist was inverted, it'll seem like he caught the bullet. But this doesn't make sense. One easy contradictory question you can ask is when do you know the bullet will come back to you? He can't pull the trigger also, remember. It somewhat happens magically due to ""instinct""?
@@nithinsabu4808 I actually thought he pull the trigger (but no bullet)? And then I remember the movie had tied the entropy and time together, which somehow become the weakest assumption for this movie to work. Maybe this bullet issue happen only under this assumption. The entropy of the bullet reverse, allow it to flow from low to high entropy 'naturally'. I actually try to explain it by applying force/energy in it? But it become a little bit complicated and I am not a physic student lol
Ah, so the sound editing is like every Christopher Nolan film since Inception character one: 'psss pss psst psst psst' character two: 'fvvt tvvf fftv vvt pvv' *EXPLOSION* ; *LOUDER EXPLOSION*
Good in cinemas but when I'm watching it on the TV, I'm constantly adjusting the volume. Interstellar's my favorite but God damn just give my volume-changing thumbs a rest.
In a twist no one saw coming, Chris Nolan *_Shyamalaned_* himself. He's gone a little too far up his own arse and he's bought in a little too much in to what people have said and think about him over the years it's starting to show.
The sound balancing was terrible alright. Everybody: Time travel movie are confusing C Nolan: Better make sure nobody can understand what the characters are saying
YUP, terrible sound in my theater too. I had a feeling it was mint JUST my theater. It also didn’t help that many of the characters are saddled with that oxygen mask!!! It’s like hey, many people didn’t understand Bane; well let’s make a whole movie like that, and full of Star Trek level techno-babble!!! 🤣
Nolan Films (Increasingly): Cold, unengaging characters mumbling meaningfully, while a single clever premise is repeated ad nauseum with increasingly bombastic music and frenzied action... to disguise the cold unengaging characters at the centre of it all
That Dark Knight Rises is really flawed, but there's something epic about it that captures the cinematic spirit of Batman like no other Batman film. It's not the best Batman film, but it's damn entertaining. Tenant is very much the same. Convoluted and flawed, but a really good watch. I'm just glad a big Hollywood studio is willing to throw gobs of money at something novel and experimental.
No question about. It has a compelling story. It looks great, it doesn't have Hans Zimmer re hashing the same handful of tunes over and over. It has a sub text about the magic of the movies versus the hard graft that goes into making them and it has the mystery surrounding the truthfulness of the magicians' respective diaries to one another. Inception is good fun, but every other film you can keep.
I remember seeing Good Time and thinking he was great. Then The Lighthouse convinced me that he's a superb actor. I'm glad he's finally getting the recognition he deserves.
I must say that I really enjoyed the movie. I live for this kind of mind fucks, and I always try to figure out the sequences and fuckups in time travel movies. That the movie is missing "heart" does not bother me, as this is secondary for me in this kind of movie. Heck, even that the Protagonist does not have an actual name isn't a problem for me, as I tend to forget basically all character names even while watching the movie. The weird visions of Nolan and my kaput brain seem to really gel in this regard. I would really love to see sequels to this movie, that further the story in the past and the future, and expand on the established time travel rules.
I fully understand that this is not for everyone but I enjoyed it a lot. I told a friend the same thing, Drinker said in this review, before I watched this. You'll probably have to watch this more than once to understand what's going on. The difference is, I'm going to do it. To me, this movie felt mostly fresh, innovative and exciting - that's more than I can say about most of the Hollywood output of the recent years. I wasn't bored for a minute.
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Another great episode!
You should consider getting a bitchute channel (or another alternative). Never know if your opinions are ever labelled too spicy for TH-cam.
Not Russia, the opera thing happened in Ukraine ffs
Despite its obvious convolutions, I'll probably check out Tenet when it hit video. If for no other reason than it's so outside of the horse shit Hollywood's been crankin' out over the past decade.
@@natejennings5884 Sounds boring!
@crow grendel You mean _Backwards_
www.dailymotion.com/video/x6hneys
I dunno, in the first half of the movie I had no idea what was going on... but then all of a sudden, in the second half of the movie.. i had absolutely 100% no idea what was going on
But towards the end I was more like... Hmmm, I will never understand this movie.
Well you aren't missing much... the more you understand, the more you realize that the concept of inverted objects is kind of unworkable in the real world.
During the second part of the movie I was like WTF ! , but then I got to the first part of the movie, and I was like ! FTW
Thems some hard lols
@@scratchy996 good one😄
Do you plan to watch TENET again?
"You already did"
- Christopher Nolan
Underrated comment
@บัญชีใหม่ Google maybe you are the villain?
Super underrated comment 😂😂😂🤝🤝🤝🤝
😂
How many times have i watched it?
The thing I love msot about Christopher Nolan is that he hasn't stopped trying new things and a improving upon the formula that has made him so much money. A lesser director would just make inception over and over again and get rich off of it but Nolan is constantly trying to be better. While certain things he tries don't pay off I still respect the effort.
His film, "Interstellar" for me, remains easily amongst my top 10 films of all time. I'm a sci-fi geek when it comes to film and the ponderous, philosophical combined with genuine scientific implications of that film absolutely astonished me after seeing that one! I just love both the "wormhole scene" and then finally the more famous, "Black hole" scene exist as some of the greatest cinematic, mindbogglingly beautiful scenes ever put to film.
Fair Point. . . Pretty sure he’s trying new ideas as opposed to a formula… pretty sure 👍
Yes
Plus his willingness to use practical effects over massive CGI when practical effects are less expensive-the plane crash into the hanger, for example...
Memento is still one of my all time facourites. Inception and Interstellar are also excellent movies. I really enjoyed Tenet. I appreciate a good mind fuck.
It's insane how calm and accepting of the 'Reverse Entropy" The Protagonist is. he is just like 'Okay, I get it, no big deal". really, I would have like a million questions.
The 2nd law of thermodynamics cried the day that Tenet released
@@tf2scoutpunch175 actually there is reverse entropy. Positrons for example. Reverse entropy doesn't violate thermodynamics
@@musiccer7446 Show me more info, please.
@@tf2scoutpunch175 sure, if you're actually curious.
For example: In quantum vacuum fluctuations two virtual particles appear spontaneously.
Lets say its an electron with spin +1/2, negative charge and regular matter. The partner particle will be a positron, an electrons antiparticle. That Positron will have negative energy, positive charge and -1/2 spin. Their properties cancel each other out.
in this case you can assume (according to CPT symmetry) that the positron isn't actually an anti particle with positive charge and -1/2 spin but rather the regular electron traveling back in time. Due to the time reversal the spin goes from +1/2 to -1/2, the properties reverse from negative to positive charge. (negative and positive energy are negligible here because they don't have anything to do with reverse entropy and only serve to keep the energy sum at 0 to not violate thermodynamics)
This is only one example. But the fact that positrons, and any anti particle for that matter, is the regular particle with reversed entropy has been well studied.
However this only works in theory from a mathematical standpoint. We may never know wether it is actually traveling back in time. However, from what we know it is very well possible.
Here is an article for more info:
phys.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Modern_Physics/Supplemental_Modules_(Modern_Physics)/Antimatter
If you're curious, quantum fluctuations are a very fascinating phenomenon worth looking up. I gave you the short version. But he appearance of energy out of nothing does not violate thermodynamics. crazy stuff
@@musiccer7446 I don't understand it fully, but it was still really interesting to read this. Thanks for this, really
You missed a perfect opportunity to reverse the Tyrion vomiting bit 0/10
you missed the opportunity to say 10/0
10\0.this do to opportunity the Missed Gruber Hans
Good one
I'm glad he did miss it - watching someone eagerly swallow vomit from the floor...argh, no thank you :-))
@OG_Dacs yea we went to see the new mutants. It was a theater where you order food. Had to order it and go get it when it was ready, no more waiters. Could only drink at the bar. I missed the first 15 minutes. And beside they raised the prices so much. We went to a early show. Tickets, two burger and fries was over 75 bucks. Each movie ticket was 15 bucks. I'm done with movie theaters
"the protagonist, who's helpfully called 'Protagonist'"
To be fair, Nolan only had five years to work out the script.
They didn't call him ANYTHING in the he movie?!
Agent?
Anything like that??
@@Ramsey276one Int the film he's actually revered to as ''a protaganist'' and ''the protaganist''
I liked Protagonist, but I think that Supporting Female #2 had a great arc.
@@TuriGamer not having seen the movie, I was guessing. I don't suppose they call him MAN??
@@RubenTricky FOR REAL?!
Nolan did his best work in Inception-balancing his brainy impulses with a character arc that was emotionally satisfying.
Tenent makes no sence because it says a time machine is invented in the future but the walk through thing is a time machine so who built it?
@@HOLLASOUNDS That's not so hard. Once you have the knowledge and one machine in the future, you can simply send the INFORMATION on how to build one back, then have someone else build it in the past. That's pretty much how Andrei built his empire: With some information and gold from the future.
@@dominicpascal5512 That's a paradox, and something I used to think about long before this film come out. I get sent information on how to build a time machine from the future the person got the information on how to build the time machine because they already have the information because the guy built the time machine in the past. Long story short Nobody actually ever designed the time machine it just exists in a loop.
Memento is much better.
No way. Interstellar destroys it. Momento too is killer.
What I like about Nolan is that he trusts the audience to figure things out instead of a typical Hollywood thriller that walks you through step by step what is happening or at least makes the outcome obvious and clichéd. Tenet is indeed a huge technical achievment but is lacking in emotional impact that steals from the films potential. Nolan's next film about Oppenhiemmer will I hope be more balanced...
Okay No lie, me and my family were watching this movie on a DVD and we reached a moment in the movie where an entire scene played over and over, and due to the premise of this movie, we thought that's what was supposed to happen, so each time it repeated we thought it was part of the movie. When we figured out the DVD player was rewinding the scene it pretty much added another hour onto it. So, that was a good way to spend Christmas Eve.
Hilarious!
I am so sorry dude...
I felt pain reading that. You have my condolences.
P.d. fuck this movie
this got me dead
@@MrMetalhorse yes there is such a thing as trying too hard.
The version you got was actually the "Nolan extra deep cut"
I just realised that the thing that makes Drinker so captivating is that he delivers a college-level literature thesis while speaking like your drunk roommate Hank who eats stove-fried beans at eleven at night
So True...
Haha I do believe you've unlocked the man's appeal
If you hear his real voice, it's shocking. This character voice is absolutely essential to the channel.
@@iHaveTheDocuments Where can you hear him speak normally?
@@mikespearwood3914 He's got a game review on his channel from a little over a year ago but I can't remember which one. I almost thought it wasn't him. I found it, resident evil 6 a retrospective.
"But it stands out as more of an impressive technical achievment rather than a gripping story that you care about" perfectly sums up my feelings about Nolan films
especially this one
some of his movies have really engaging plots and they unravel those plots in an interesting and fun way like memento, inception, the prestige and the dark knight (pretty straight forward but the joker plan comes along slowly as the movie goes)
For his worst movies, yeah that's the case. The movies that I think did a good job at balancing intriguing plot and engaging storytelling are Memento, Inception, Interstellar, and the first two Dark Knight movies.
Momento I thought was good.
@@GoodStageProduction0 and the prestige, i love that one
In Tenet, after the big military battle and the death of Sator, the Protagonist and Neil have a conversation where it dawns on the Protagonist that he is the architect and Neil is his greatest friend. It is clearly meant to be a moving scene, given the tears streaming down the Protagonist's face. However, it left me completely blank and confused. Christopher Nolan must have buried himself in this theoretical headfuck world for too long and lost the perspective of the audience, or perhaps he just wanted to write a more headfucky movie than Primer.
Robert Pattinson is proving to be a very good actor. After Twilight it only got better. And he pretty much stole all the scenes in Tenet.
it's a shame people are only just realizing this, his indie small films he's really good in. this is why he got batman - he proved himself
He’s good in every single movie except for twilight. It’s obvious that it was just the script
@@tylercallahan7514 I agree. Those Twilight movies were terrible
Uhhhh did you see him in The Lighthouse....yeah Rob can definitely act man.
I’m a huge fan of his, minus Twilight. A solid actor.
Tenet was a million dollar audition to direct Bond, and an audition for Robert Pattinson to play Bond.
That man gonna play Bond and Batman. I just want him to be bulgy enough to play Superman later on. Then he would be completing dream which I wanted.🤣
This is true.
The movie reminded me of Quantum of Solace, though it did have some wry remarks about time travel too.
The first half is Quantum of Solace. The second half is better than that.
Man i hope Pattison gets to be the new bond, and a Nolan Bond film would be so great
@@kalakritistudios what about washington ?
@@peoplesboxingnetwork2037 Washington may not play Batman but I really liked him.
The Prestige was the pinnacle of Nolan for me, it had a great story, lots of layers/twinned elements, it was clever, well acted, challenging to the watcher without becoming impenetrable, a fabulous, cinegenius film.
yeah but to be fair that is based on a book
Realy? A magician that uses instantaneous cloning in the late 19th century and creates a new version of himself in every performance he makes thus having to kill his extra copies, all out of spite because another magician has a trick he cannot reverse-engineer, THAT's Nolan's pinnacle for you? ROFL
@@lm7_gio calling it the pinnacle of Nolan was misguided but the movie was pretty good, describing it in a negative way won't change that. Jonathan Nolan writes some pretty good stuff
@@lm7_gioYou literally do not know what happened in a movie that you're trashing. "The Prestige" act is the movie itself and you are the audience that has been fooled.
And bonus: David Bowie as Nick Tesla.
"prioritizing grandiose intellectual concepts at the expense of crafting an emotionally satisfying narrative with strong and interesting characters" is the most eloquent and comprehensive description of Christopher Nolan I've ever heard
I guess you've never seen Inception
Name 10 other directors without google.
Then stfu with the criticism lol
@@The_ScapeGoat Agreed....Nolan literally did that in inception and it was incredibly well done. Nolan can't have an L without getting shit on for it.
@@ISetYourFaceOnFire That wouldn't happen if people didn't hail him as the second coming of cinema christ.
@MajimasMajimemes seen memento? Dark knight? Insomnia? Overrated but still good interstellar?
He's a very good and thought provoking film maker, I didn't like tenet from my first viewing, but I didn't get anything either.
It’s certainly not my favorite Christopher Nolan movie but even his worst is better than some of the best efforts of other directors these days.
Christopher Nolan is THE great Auteurist film maker today. There are no others, but I don't bother checking anymore, so what do I know... IMHO
Joe Morton surely you can’t be sleeping on Denis Villeneuve!?
I consider this film to be close to as good as inception which is my favorite Nolan films. Nolan has made some great films and some films that are just ok but he hasn’t made a bad film yet, and that’s an achievement compared to other directors. One of my favorite directors.
@You Didn't See Graphite, Because It's Not There Thanks for the suggestions. I will check Denis Villeneuve, Ari Aster, James Wan and Mike Flanagan out
@You Didn't See Graphite, Because It's Not There Denis Villeneuve - Basically you are saying I should see the new Dune film... I was not going to, BUT NOW I WILL! All adaptations will be a disappointment, as I read the book straight through in 3 days W/O sleeping... IMHO
Tenet's biggest lesson is that please give Nolan, a Bond movie to direct. That way, he can't over-complicate the plot beyond an acceptable limit and still bring the best of his directorial tools to the game.
Bond movies are embarrassing relics from a bygone era. Tenet was Nolan's big dumb action movie and it was smarter than every other big dumb action movie combined.
for sure , he will find a way in insert a fucking time machine no matter what
@@The_ScapeGoat yeah I keep asking myself to pretend it's a Michael Bay movie, and hey, it's not so bad! I think we're being too harsh on Nolan's take on the action genre, however it tries so hard to convince you it's intellectually captivating film-watching experience, when it's almost impossible to see it that way on the first watch. The set-pieces alone are inventive and original. Definitely a good take on a Mission: Impossible film, essentially what it is.
Actually I want to give Nolan something like a black comedy, where two aging brothers played by Ron Pearlman and Tom Waits have to bury their dad/scatter his ashes. Ones a waster bum, the other the owner of a blues bar on the east coast and hate each other. They have to go on a road trip across america to see all the places he wanted before he died and a way to get them to reconsile. Its about generations and rebels realising time moves without them and they meet a woman Chloe Moretz that is becoming them. But its complex in timelines and a web of set ups over decades that pay off in this trip. Waits, the waster has a studebaker cliche and Pearlman quips "what are you a fucking muppet? I aint driving in that"
@@joegrimes9232 oddly specific
You didn't mention the chemistry between the protagonist and Neil, that makes the climax really emotional
Tenet: A film about a woman trying to get a divorce- the rest is just a Mcguffin to enable this conclusion.
I would even argue the villain story could be practically stolen from ST Voyager's "The Year of Hell"...
Perfect explanation mate! 😂
@@pennedarts A movie script which took the director about 2 years to invent and another 5 years or so to figure out, even though it was stolen from a television episode which aired over 20 years ago.
That sounds about right for Hollywood's finest.
I prefered the original to be honest. It's called The Night Manager.
Kat is playing the same character.
I'm curious how a movie would remind you of Rise of Skywalker in a good way lol
Should have ran the clip of Tyrion throwing up in reverse. A truly missed opportunity.
He may not be that skilled in video editing to be fair.
The sound as he inhales his own vomit should be the reverse of the Sam Neill scream...
@@stevenborg102 its easy to reverse footage these days isn't it?
@@chatteyj I wouldnt have a clue so you tell me!
@@stevenborg102 Yes it is easy enough with whatever editing software he has.
I went into this movie really wanting to enjoy it. I'm not one of those people that thinks that everything Nolan touches turns to gold, but I have very much enjoyed some of his past movies, such as Memento, The Prestige, Inception, and even Interstellar (even though I acknowledge that it has some story flaws). The thing is, each one of those films has a central character that I came to care about. I cared about the motivations for the characters that Guy Pearce, Hugh Jackman, Leonardo Dicaprio, and Matthew McConaughey played in those films. In this film, it felt to me that the characters are essentially stand-ins for concepts, even more so than in some of Nolan past films, and ultimately I ended up feeling kind of lukewarm about this film when it was over. There were definitely some amazing moments, and I wouldn't say that I completely disliked it, but I walked away feeling that it is unlikely that I'll have the burning desire to watch it again, despite the fact that repeat viewings would probably be interesting on an intellectual level. Also, I agree with this review in that the sound mixing is just incredibly bad for a big-budget film. There were indeed moments where I had trouble understanding what was being said, and I work on producing music/audio on regular basis so, I use my ears critically often and yet, there were times when the dialogue in this film was almost inaudible to me.
I can 100% guarantee you that repeat viewings make the movie fall apart even faster and further.
I loved the movie the first time I watched it, second time I saw some cool details I missed but the thing about this movie is that you cant think about the concept too much because even at its core its confusing, but due to it being shot form different peoples perspectives and in different times its becomes impossible to follow or comprehend, even if you start writing the events down in a notebook (trust me). But the overall dynamic of this movie was incredible to me, the ending was perfectly tense and thrilling and the ending ending was awesome with Pattisons revelation and the ending ending ending was cool with that Indian arms dealer being shot.
"Don't try to understand it". A million youtube videos later trying to understand it. I think I like it because it's baffling. Like humanity.
Robert Pattinson is a great actor. He really worked hard to get rid of the twilight stigma.
I'm actually really happy to hear he was a highlight of this movie as far as acting and character goes, especially after I noticed he was in the movie while watching the review.
He certainly has started to sparkle in the spotlight recently...
He was definitely the best character in the movie
It's been gone a long time ago mate
@London Journo Lighthouse?
"Making something more complex doesn't make it more intelligent" -southpark, inception episode
Possibly the most perceptive show ever written.
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To be fair the writers of South park panned that episode said it was rushed
Nail on the head. Inception had a simple tale, made unnecessarily complicated, Too many guys were going out of their way to prove their "intelligence" by shouting how much they liked the film. But emperor Nolan often really has no clothes on. It's all vanity. I appreciate what he's trying but the novelty has worn off long ago. I still love Memento.
There's something like an Occam's razor to story telling, where maintaining simplicity in it's design often is a virtue. I never feel like having to remember 10 different names or 20 different timelines.
That’s all I could think about watching this movie!! I started making the noises in the movie😂
This is simply what happens when a director as genius as Nolan is, gets too much control (re Army of the Dead, The Phantom Menace etc). I loved hearing recently that Tarantino cut his favorite scene from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Not only was it his and Leo (DeCaprio)'s favorite scene, he also believed that Julia Butters (the young girl actor from the set) would win an Oscar. Good to see that one of the best directors around is willing to let other people tell him no, and he to an extent will listen. I think Nolan could do with the same.
I think this is the first Nolan movie I've seen that I just have no desire to watch a second time.
Nolan makes movies that sometimes work like a miracle and other times they simply don't.
One thing you can credit him though is that he never produces unimaginative boring crap. In a day and age when movies tend to be safe, bland and unchallenging, Nolan is a breath of desperately needed fresh air. Whether his new movies succeed in their goal or not, they are something to look forward to and that today is a big win.
Nolan to me is Ridley Scott meets M Knight Shamalambles. You have one great movie that had twists and concept. Now do it again.
@@joegrimes9232 M. Knight Shamalambles 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
While I agree that it's nice that he likes to think outside the box, I don't think he does it from a storytelling standpoint. He has a visual or conceptual "outside the box" idea, and then shoehorns a story into it. It doesn't work for me.
Nolan's habit of making his movies as over-complicated as possible finally bit him in the ass with Tenet but I get what you are saying, he should have made this movie like he made Inception, that one is pretty easy to understand but this one is so confusing.
yeah but still this one is a total failure
"For me, the standout was Robert Pattinson, who manages to switch easily between quirky, eccentric scientist, and kick ass, no nonsense spy with a bit of suave British charm thrown in for good measure. He always gives the impression that he knows more than he's letting on, and he's pretty fun to watch." -- ya got that right. He is the plot, really, and worth watching the movie for. He never disappoints.
...Robert Pattinson for next James Bond? This does give me hope he will work out as Bruce/Batman.
See him in The Lighthouse - he is stellar
@@Tekisasubakani he also said he wouldnt work out for the role because of "body positivity". So I'll pass
@@DiggitySlice Really? Come on dude, you're smarter than that.
the reason why he of all characters seems the most confident and in control is because.... he is. Some people don't agree with the whole Neil is just older Max theory, but if you follow it, it makes logical sense that he would be doing the most time travel through inverting himself, and as such, is more knowledgeable of all events in the movie than every other character. In essence, it would make him the true protagonist as the current protagonist set him on a path to help him for just this reason. After writing this comment, I realize now that talking about this movie results in a lot of circular logic that more or less just says "it happened because it happened" but in a way, thats kind of the movie's charm.
So Christopher Nolan is basically Michael Bay trying to imitate Stanley Kubrick.
Underrated comment!
"Go home Nolan, You're drunk!"
- Direct quote that a producer should have exclaimed, upon being shown the script for tenet!
damm nolan you're failure saved theatre and you got first flop box office cost 200 million budget
This movie is the hardest that Nolan has ever Nolaned...
Lmao
I'm getting cinema sins vibes here.
It was not that difficult in concept, but was poor in execution
@@purplespark8 not poor just unexplicable Fast PACE!!
@@isaackmojica8302 yep, thought that too at the first watch. Seriously, give the movie another go, the pacing seems MUCH more forgiving the second time
@@purplespark8 actually, it was difficult. Not just the concept of reverse entropy on paper, which in itself is beyond the simple "its just goes in reverse" definition, but the fact that when shooting scenes with reversed time the filmmakers had to stage two moving sections of one scene that would have to go into the opposite direction of each other. It's not just reversing the tape back. People and props had to move backwards in real time.
Wonder how the Russians ever figured out Protagonist was a spy, he blends in to Russian society so well.
LMAO
He was too confident for a black person in Russia I'm sure sure or something like that. If you are trully a minority , you shouldn't bug a majority in any way and try to hide confidence or your behaviour might get very problematic and cause stereotypical hate, like racism. Western modern left really stupid to try to use minorities' validity , all they do is breed stereotypical hate on both sides, divide for power and to conquer non believers. Maybe he just had the gun exposing him, self defence is almost non existent concept ( try to prove it's self defence, most likely you'll get in jail anyways) in any not US country.
@EramSemperRecta reminds me of the Frankenstein Chronicles series on Amazon, where a black actor is cast into a white role, and nobody in Victorian England bats an eye or even acknowledges his race. It's like a weird form of blackface, somehow pretending that racism never existed.
@EramSemperRecta You're not the only one who notices and is bothered by it, most people are just too polite to say anything.
@EramSemperRecta You start to wonder if you're just some lone nut if other people don't speak up once in a while to let you know that, no, you're not.
oh man, this review is spot on. Even thinking there was a problem with the theater’s speaker system. I thought mine was going to shake apart and I even told management after that it was so loud I couldn’t understand the dialogue. Turns out, it was just Nolan.
So glad you brought up the sound mixing for the dialogue...honestly thought I was going deaf or something...I've never had to turn on subtitles for an english spoken film before
"It reminds me of Rise of Skywalker, and not in a good way"
You mean, there's a good way to be reminded of Rise of Skywalker?
Yeah, it's the worst way to go out as an actor or actress
I thought Ben Solo and Babu Frik were good.
The movie shows that Ben Solo was ultimately irrelevant to the trilogy as a whole.
A good Rise of Skywalker reminder: it's over, and one day everyone that worked on it, or even heard about it, will be dead.
@@ComicGladiator lmao that got dark
Robert Pattinson has shown his acting chops since shrugging off that Twilight burden. He was awesome in The Lighthouse.
Increasingly reminds me of David McCallum, in a good way
My boys were terrified of him being Batman until they saw Tenet. Now they are sure he will crush it.
You thinks so? I thoughthe really paled compared to Willam Dafoe. For me he was the weakest part of Lighthouse...
@@saftpackerl To be fair almost everyone pales in comparison to Willem Defoe.
@@saftpackerl because dafoe character is more interesting, I mean hes basically a less crazy joker with an obsession with the light. Pattinson make a god damn good performance especially the accent.
This was almost exactly how I felt about TENET, so it makes me satisfied to hear the Critical Drinker putting his grumpy spin on it.
No not 100 set becase box office going flop
One thing I took away from Tenet was that Robert Pattinson is a fantastic actor, didn’t expect such a performance from him
"After a while you stop caring" - exactly how I felt half way through the movie
And that changes during the 2nd viewing! People don't get that
@@abhinavannam9045 Actually even if you make sense of inversion while watching it first time, you should watch it second time. Movie gives you something extra second time, especially the connection between Protagonist and Pattinson's character becomes completely different and interesting.
@@JeMand.Anders If you're saying JDW's acting was bad.. BYE FELICIA!
@@almightyguy3987 Exactly.
@@JeMand.Anders washington's acting was laughable
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who couldn’t hear half the shit people were saying.
Even if sound was really loud I (personally) only couldnt hear the dialogue in the opera shootout. Everywhere it was fine
yep...i was in a Dolby theatre, and my wife and i both couldn't make out what was being said through most of the movie- very annoying...
I had the same problem with interstellar
Just finished watching it. Had to turn on subtitles just to figure out the dialogue. The music was overbearing and obnoxious at points.
It made sense in Interstellar where the dialogue barely mattered yet the music drove the emotions of many scenes.
In Tenet it serves no purpose and only damages the film.
Brilliant, balanced analysis of this film. When I came out the Cinema I thought some of the same things (grandiose and pretentious narrative structure and visual themes at the expense of the basics of what makes a film memorable) but the sheer effort put into this film just makes me want to watch it again and again.
Your assessment of movies seems to generally match my opinion, and Tenet seems another match. I just watched this last night with my wife, and my wife had tuned out by the end of the movie, and I kept at it, hoping to be drawn in by some event that eventually sewed everything together. This didn't seem to occur, at least not to my level of intellect, I guess. ;) It was fun to look at, interesting in spots, but I found myself watching something that just didn't gel and make me invest my interest and emotion into it. A handful of scenes were quite cool visually, but I never really bought into the reverse time and how it was being integrated into the story. And that red/blue soldiers battle at the end just seemed like a bunch of guys running around shooting things you never actually saw shooting back. Felt like some kind of 'marvel cgi mess' where 1000s of characters who meant nothing were fighting battles that didn't matter.
So basically, it's Robert Patensons audition for the next James Bond?
Not a bad choice tbh
Too young.
OH God please no....
MagBa Yeah, idk why people keep saying he’s “too young” for certain roles. Just say you don’t like him.
W-Tek He’s a good actor though, and would be a good choice. I’m going to guess you don’t actually have a reason for disliking him other than “twilight bad.”
"This is a film that you probably need to watch several times to fully understand and appreciate .....and I'm not going to do that"
I'm might give it another shot on home release if there is subtitles because I feel like I missed half of the movie with the sound so muffled. But I doubt it will make the characters or story any more interesting.
Well im going to do it, It will be funer the next time you see because you get a beter prospective on what realy going on
Only if I got the uncut version with subtitles and fixed audio, then I'll give it a go.
And that's your loss xD
Tenet was like watching Back to The Future part II without having seen Back to The Future
Synopsis of Tenet:
Film starts, stuff happens, than more stuff happens followed by stuff happening that doesn't make any sense, film ends.
It makes sense when you look it as a loop.
Brad Jones had a pretty quotable review of this movie. "Imagine you're watching The Matrix, and the opening scene is the ledge scene, then 5 minutes in we have the pill scene, 15 minutes in is the lobby shootout, then an hour in we've skipped to The Matrix Reloaded and are watching the highway chase." Also "maybe it makes sense, maybe it doesn't. To hell if I know, don't ask me, I only saw the movie."
Holy shit that actually makes sense. I watched it yesterday and was like ok the last half kinda lost me.
it is like watching the end of evangelion, i mean jesus christ, why do people like to confuse themselves just to pretend they're smart, movies shouldn't be unnecessarily convoluted
@@Kev7035 Watching EoE without any context of NGE was even weirder.
@@Kev7035 No no no, don't get made at other people. You and i both know the problem, the only difference being i'm willing to admit it. We're too dumb for Tenet. That's perfectly fine btw.
You know Tenet made me think a lot about The Matrix...If The Matrix hadn’t so expertly and clearly defined the rules of it’s world. That to me is the biggest weakness of Tenet. Also, remember how Tenet said that when you invert you have to provide your own oxygen and yet Kat had no oxygen mask when she went back on the boat. Things like that take me out of the film.
"Time travel. Since my first day on the job as a Starfleet captain I swore I'd never let myself get caught in one of these godforsaken paradoxes - the future is the past, the past is the future, it all gives me a headache." -Captain Janeway
"You won't get me into discussing time travel logic. I'd rather chew broken glass."
- Captain Ed Mercer
"To hell with the first temporal directive" - Janeway later. Twice if I'm not mistaken.
There is the right way, a wrong way and the Janeway, which usually involved giving weapons of mass destruction to the Borg.
I love voyager
The time paradoxes in Star Trek seem very easy to understand in comparison to this film.
I loved this film and loved the chaotic feel of it. I think Christopher Nolan did a fantastic job. I also loved the characters.
It has its shortcomings but still Tenet is a hell of a movie with a unique story and overall work that you just dont get much of anymore 10/10
"Tenet" is easily the best movie of the year. Of course, it is only competing with "Trolls World Tour".
You forgot the masterpiece that was Bad Boys 3.
Nah, the Sonic movie obviously wins here.
@@soni-switch5270 the sonic movie was so shit lmfao
Demon slayer the anime film was great as well
I’m thinking of ending things was pretty neat
She's 6'3" wearing 4 inch heels! So, she was about 6'7" most of the movie! lol
🤣🤣
What's worse is She looked just like my late grandmother! When she was in her twenties, anyways... At probably 5' 11" my grandmother was taller then average... She passed away in 1987... But I made the mistake of looking through a box of old pictures, and found nudes! My grandparents were artists...
Anyways... Elizabeth Debicki made Poor John David Washington look short, even though he's a football player!
IMHO
Huh? How much is that in meters? I don't speak non-metric.
@@arnold3768 Almost exactly 2 meters. I'm not American but it honestly isn't hard to just google it. It really only gets annoying in something like a recipe where it would pretty tedious to convert dozens of measurements to metric.
@@arnold3768 2.042 meters....
Gotta say, I initially avoided TENET almost entirely because of Robert Pattinson and ultimately went in dreading it merely because he was in it. Well. Oil. Beef. Hooked. If the handsome bastard didn’t go right ahead and s almost single handedly carry everyone else on his broad shoulders with his performance and win over my cold dead heart!
Tenet is like a excellent science video that lasts for 2 and a half hours done with professional editing and good filmmaking in general
Tenet is a prime example of how, no matter how smart and talented you are, no matter how much effort and skill you put into the story and execution, there is no way for time travel to make logical sense. There will always be contradictions, paradoxes, and things you just have to hand-wave away.
I've seen a lot of time travelling stories told well. This was a piece of shit because Nolan couldn't be bothered to explain anything well or get his audience to emotionally invest it anything
Time Travel is and always will be a concept that should be left to books, they have the time and ability to actually try to explain a theory. Not even a 3 hour movie can get the world building down, and if it tried there'd be no story.
Basically, if a movie is gonna play with time travel, just deduct a point or two from its score and move on. It's never going to make sense.
One word: Predestination
@@rubendilda8142 I loved Predestination mainly because the whole movie was basically a satire of time travel movies.
Watch DARK on Netflix my friend...they do time travel right
Robert Pattinson is underrated. Yeah he was in twilight but he's brought it in other movies if people take the time to track down his work.
Good Time was the fucking shit.
He was amazing in The Lighthouse
Ask Jake Whithall about Patison
No hes not. Hes not underrated. The world knows hes awesome and a superb performer. That knowledge is just suppressed by the social adjendas and PC culture, antifa, nazi ass, adjenda pushing jobless pieces of shit of today who have forced an opinion that if your white, make great quality films, & are talented then your nothing but the oppressor of those who can't tie thier shoes or find their way home without a damn smart phone.
Who cares about how talented one person is. Its all about how mediocre everyone else is. They deserve Oscar's just for existing. Just ask them. They'll flat out tell you they do.
Everyone go watch The Rover
To me, this movie's an example of when one has more plot than story. It has a great high-concept plot that moves us through these spectacular set pieces, but very little in actual story that would've been important to understand the value of certain things beyond plot devices or people beyond their roles and tasks.
Another thing about the film that really bugs me is that the movie clearly wants to be bloodier than it actually is, but they don't want to risk the PG-13 rating, so we get a lot of bloodless gunshots, stabbings, etc. Just pulls me out of the movie a bit more.
Yes, this film is built around one central concept, and everything else is secondary and unimportant, including characters. It's very technical, cold, and dispassionate. Not by mistake - I think it was intentionally made to be this way, and I absolutely love it the way it is.
Why do you love Christopher Nolan's method of storytelling and film making?
The ending battle sequence, with everyone wearing mask, was completely confusing.
That’s fair. I thought it was really interesting
Why couldn't they have just worn tinted masks? it would get rid of the "if you see yourself = annihilation" issue
I mean... If you got concept of inversion than it was not... Hate to be ,,that guy,, v
But if you got the concept it is really simple
@@garfieldman2380 i'm pretty sure you can *see* yourself, you just can't touch yourself
@@joaquimpereira4995 Whatt about that scene where the protagonist in the freeport is trying to prevent himself from taking off the mask? They were fighting, which is a form of touching. So do you only get annihilated if you know its yourself you touched? Theres a lot of unanswered rules.
I wish that Christopher Nolan would direct a movie about Christopher Nolan starring Leonardo DiCaprio.
That would be sooo meta that it could happen! 😂
Technically still Inception lol. The whole cast is based off a production. Most notably, Cobb is the “director” of the whole operation, and who plays Cobb?
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He did. It's called "conception". The movie takes place in Mrs. Nolan's womb.
@@matthewcastillo310 Cobb even dresses like Nolan. The most interesting thing is in Inception, Cobb is asked to insert a suggestion in to Cillian Murphy's mind. Do you recall the controversy around Sandy Hook appearing in the 2nd Batman movie? Not long after, a school shooting took place in a place called, wait for it, Sandy Hook. I found it odd and I am not one to automatically believe every conspiracy hypothesis I hear. There were many interenet voices suggesting Sandy Hook appearing in one of the most lucrative movies ever was no coinsidence. To then have a similar scenario turn up in Nolan's next film was very curious indeed.
Underrated and excellent flick, one of the best action movies in years
How?
Imagine a Christopher Nolan film where the main characters travel out into space where time moves a lot slower than on Earth and then they try to perform inception on somebody whilst being inverted.
Nolan made a high-concept sci-fi film where the story is overwhelmed by the premise and literal plot devices?
I don’t believe you.
the difference between tenet vs interstellar or inception is that the latter two had compelling characters and the plots were actually comprehensible
One of the biggest issues with Nolan is that he creates these visually incredible films with cool effects and concepts, but sometimes forgets to put likable, fleshed out characters into the plot.
Exactly! Dunkirk was exactly that! I just couldn't relate to the characters. 😑
@@domrogg4362 Interstellar is an exception though, no?
@@sinanuluc5143 I love Interstellar. 😁
Totally agree which is why I still think Insomnia is one of his best movies, there are no big, clever plot devices, concepts or macguffins, just a great psychological study of two broken characters in an extreme environment - sometimes less is more!
@@domrogg4362 Same!
The lead actor, Denzel Washington's son, was wooden and drove a lot of the disinterest for me, Robert Pattinson was excellent. The sound balance had me reaching for the off switch on numerous occasions and the ending made me wonder why I had resisted. Time travel needs to be handled correctly and I'm not sure it ever has been. It always raises the paradox questions like "if you travel back in time to prevent X then the reason for you travelling in the first place ceases to exist, so you don't, so X happens which makes you travel back in time...... and the parallel universe explanation is bullshit too, if you're changing the events in a parallel universe then really, what's the point?. What I did find good conceptually was the incorporation of the well known physics principle that it is the flow of entropy that causes and maintains the arrow of time.
IMO tenet is better to watch as a young teen or kid because as a kid you have to assume you won't always understand everything in movies so you just go with the flow and figure out whatever you can, and in this case might make tenet more enjoyable and entertaining to watch.
Nolan's the guy who quietly speaks little bits of wisdom in a techno club.
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You forgot the quotes around "wisdom".
@@ericv00 I "forgot" the quotes around wisdom.
"He's been responsible for some excellent movies in his career as well as The Dark Knight Rises". Ouch. But even that movie is better than 90% Hollywood movies in the past 10 years though.
So true, so true.
Loved dark knight rises never understood why it got so much criticism
In banes shitty voice - *o f c o u r s e*
Absolutely..and also it has inspiration from Charles Dickens' A Tale of Two Cities
@Mike Downs bullshit. Good redemption arc and an A+ ending makes for a pretty decent film. Too many explosions though.
“I ordered my hot sauce an hour ago” best line lmaooo
Spot on analysis! Nolan should have stuck to what goes on in peoples' dreams, where logical inconsistencies are easier to accept or explain away.
Pattinson has massively improved since twilight. He also roasts twilight in interviews, so I have a lot of respect for the guy.
He was really good in The Rover
And good time and the king and the Lighthouse
I've been a huge fan since Good Time, I think hes made the exact right moves since twilight to become a well respected actor. I'm surprised he took Batman though, I would think he would be leery of these tent pole franchise pictures. High risk, high reward I guess. I'm worried the Nolan films are going to be the template, the trailer seems very reminiscent of those films. I'd like to see some risks taken. I hated that the second two films focused so much on him retiring - my head canon Batman is kind of nuts, and obsessed, would never consider stopping
@@keithmichael112 That's the Batman in most fan's headcanon. There are certain superheroes who never retire, never truly get a Hollywood happy ending. It just goes against the character too much. As such It's really annoying when writers/producers/directors don't realize this and try to force some BS ending to the character.
Batman is one and Captain America is another. For Cap his sense of duty will always compel him to be a hero, plus he's a man out of time, whoever he may have wanted to be and the life he may have once thought of having all vanished when he fell into the sea. As for Batman well Bruce Wayne is the costume Batman wears in the daytime, there's no person there to ever actually have a normal life so any notion of him not being Batman is absurd.
@@thefilthyrhombus3856 it's kind of a catch 22, a reasonable person would consider that they should stop dressing like a bat and fighting crime, maybe enjoy some nice french restaurants, but they also wouldn't have started in the first place.
The scene that made me laugh was when they were explaining the world would end and everyone would disappear then Kat asks: “including my son?” Lmao really?
Yea I absolutely love this movie but can still say thats an autistic line
That took me out of the experience. Not that I felt very attached to begin with but...still. Awful
Jay-sus wood have none of it
Holly: They're all dead. Everybody's dead, Dave.
Lister: Peterson isn't, is he?
Holly: Everybody's dead, Dave!
Lister: Not Chen!
Holly: Gordon Bennett! Yes, Chen. Everyone. Everybody's dead, Dave!
Lister: Rimmer?
Holly: He's dead, Dave. Everybody is dead. Everybody is dead, Dave.
Lister: Wait. Are you trying to tell me everybody's dead?
Holly: Should've never let him out in the first place...
Also, it doesn't stop her from going rogue right at the end which would end the world INCLUDING HER SON. What a load of shite this movie was, it turned me off CN's previous work.
Tenet improves so much on the second viewing. I loathed the film when I first saw it. I appreciate Nolan making complex films that people have to work out. In some ways, this film isn't even meant to be solved, which I find even more appealing. Don't get me wrong, I do not want every movie or the majority of movies to be like this. It's meant to be an anomaly in a world full of childish plots. His films actually inspire people to pick up quantum physics and learn some of the basics. About time someone stuck out a hand to the deliberately dumbed-down population and said, 'You're smarter than you think.' I think this is a huge part of his success. Respect leads to box office success.
It's not for everyone. I loved it.
Regardless of whether people like it or not this is such a refreshing new idea. Unlike most ideas nowadays
It's the nearest we're going to get to a film adaptation of those Heinlein stories about time travel that pile paradox on paradox.
This review is absolutely perfect. I left the theater thinking Nolan is basically Kojima and needs someone to reign him in. So much spectacle and high concept sci-fi, but not emotion. I feel nothing for any of the characters.
He sucked all the emotion out of Dunkirk as well. One of my favorite acts of heroism and patriotism in all of history and it was absolutely flat.
And this is the problem with Nolan in general.His movies are mostly plot/concept driven and not so character driven,or even a balanced combination of both.His best character so far is Ledger's Joker and,well,he's crearly an antagonist,elevated by the latter's great performance.
Well, I *did* feel something for Anne Hathaway's character: disdain.
@@reneelasswell3734 Totally agree. The only connection I felt to the characters was just the baseline "hey these are the good guys, I'd rather not see them die, I suppose"
@@reneelasswell3734 You weren't supposed to get attached to the characters, their names are barely mentioned. You missed the point of the film entirely.
Tenet was Nolan out Nolaning himself. It was sort of a self-parody. It was a wink at the audience and then turning the amp up to 11. And the sound was bad on purpose, because it doesn't matter what they were saying. That's the point. Who cares what his name is, he's "generic Nolan protagonist #10." As they tell you at the beginning (where you can hear), and used extensively in the promotional campaigns "Don't try to understand it, feel it." It's just a fun action movie, with fun characters doing Nolanesque movie stuff.
So spot on about the sound balance! It was hard. I like the music but it was hard to hear parts, unless that was the intention. And it was contrived I think for that purpose. I found it hard, but I liked it. And three times watching it I get more out of it. The Protagonist was a soldier in something that was instructed by no one and for nothing much I felt/heard/saw... and I liked Tallin and the Linnahaal. You're last comment was accurate. Good to have these movies than not, but the better ones will tighten up on the ideas more with a robust script.
“Tenet introduces us to the protagonist, who is helpfully named Protagonist.” Wait...did Rian Johnson named the characters for Nolan 🤦🏼♂️
At least he's diverse That's MOST important
if ryan did this the guy would be a side character
Tf does Rian Johnson have to do with this?
He's Taggart Niste, they call him... "The Pro"
No, otherwise he’d have been named “Antagonist”. You know, subversion and all?
Public: "We can't understand what Bane is saying, Chris!?!"
Nolan: "How about a $200M movie chalk fulla Banes?"
I have to say it just may be the cinemas that people are watching from. The only time I couldn't understand the dialog was when protagonist was listening through the window as the unboxed the gold.
@@GeryonM I was dead center. 550 seat Dolby avx. Grew up in a Hifi/home theatre store and spent 15 years as a filmmaker and did plenty of hours in full mixing suites. I couldn't follow the dialogue in at least 20 places in the film. Nolan has an issue here. He likes obscuring what people are saying with the belief that the film is visual and that the necessary pieces to carry the story as there and that the audience can put 2 and 2 together. Sometimes, he's wrong.
Exactly. Making a film that is heavily reliant on understanding its plot and different concepts and theories about time, only to make it difficult to audibly hear dialouge. Brilliant.
I actually thought the sound issue was just me or my theater, it is kind of a relief that it wasn't.
@@jasonasdecker It wasn't just you.
I saw this movie in theaters with my girlfriend at the time, because it was the only movie playing at the theater during COVID. At the end of it we both walked out like "Wait. What did we even just watch?"
I watched this movie 4 times now and I love it. I will always defend the protagonist and how his name is the protagonist and its such a complex yet fun film that I have to credit it as one of Nolan's best
One of the things I don't understand is do bullets have free will? Can you explain that. Like how TF can you catch the bullet? Looking from the 's perspective, it just can't jump, right? Makes no sense
He says "I'm the protagonist" twice in this movie.
To me that's the same energy as if Morbius would have said "it's morbin time".
I was really put off the first time bro said he was the protagonist lmao.
@@nithinsabu4808 i think is because of the 'cause & effect' thing, that something happen does not actually came after the 'cause'. Normally the bullet is shoot when a person fire a gun. So, the reverse bullet (somehow) appear suddenly in the rock, and need a person to aim at it to catch a bullet. The free will is on the person but not object. (is a crappy explanation I know) (btw i generally think the reverse object/human does not have free will though)
@@Moyeeshen2304 it does make sense when the shooter is also inverted along with the bullet. Like how Neil saved the protagonist in the opera. He was inverted and shot the bullet straight in his perspective, but the bullet was reversed in the protagonist pov. What I think is the lab scene is very illogical. The protagonist isn't inverted. And he catches the bullet. See, if time was travelling forward and the protagonist was inverted, it'll seem like he caught the bullet. But this doesn't make sense.
One easy contradictory question you can ask is when do you know the bullet will come back to you? He can't pull the trigger also, remember.
It somewhat happens magically due to ""instinct""?
@@nithinsabu4808 I actually thought he pull the trigger (but no bullet)? And then I remember the movie had tied the entropy and time together, which somehow become the weakest assumption for this movie to work. Maybe this bullet issue happen only under this assumption. The entropy of the bullet reverse, allow it to flow from low to high entropy 'naturally'.
I actually try to explain it by applying force/energy in it? But it become a little bit complicated and I am not a physic student lol
Ah, so the sound editing is like every Christopher Nolan film since Inception
character one: 'psss pss psst psst psst'
character two: 'fvvt tvvf fftv vvt pvv'
*EXPLOSION* ; *LOUDER EXPLOSION*
And don't forget the music.
BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR
bane's competing with arnold schwarzenegger and critical drinker for the greatest voice of all time
Important plot details...outside, on a ferry, in a strong wind with crashing waves.
Michael Bay: King of the Explosion.
Christopher Nolan: King of the Implosion.
Good in cinemas but when I'm watching it on the TV, I'm constantly adjusting the volume. Interstellar's my favorite but God damn just give my volume-changing thumbs a rest.
In a twist no one saw coming, Chris Nolan *_Shyamalaned_* himself.
He's gone a little too far up his own arse and he's bought in a little too much in to what people have said and think about him over the years it's starting to show.
Well ...at least we know the title of his next film.😡💩🥴
Exactly... Great concept / visuals for a movie but not well executed or fun
He's surrounded by a bunch of yes men. Everyone is too pussy to stand up to him
Nope
He needs people to tell him that maybe he's not as good as he thinks he is.
I actually really love tenet. The fact it's one of those movies you have to watch more than once it comprehend, really intrigues me
“Remember Protagonist…the most important thing for you to remember is …..” BWWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
The sound balancing was terrible alright. Everybody: Time travel movie are confusing
C Nolan: Better make sure nobody can understand what the characters are saying
Haha...yea right?
😔 please not another Looper..
So other people didn't understand what they were saying either? I thought it was just my bad English skills XD
@@arnold3768 No, I legit didn't understand half of what was said in that movie. I want to watch it again with subtitles
YUP, terrible sound in my theater too. I had a feeling it was mint JUST my theater. It also didn’t help that many of the characters are saddled with that oxygen mask!!! It’s like hey, many people didn’t understand Bane; well let’s make a whole movie like that, and full of Star Trek level techno-babble!!! 🤣
The sound balancing issue was in Interstellar as well, I think. The voices were too quiet for the volume level of the SFX.
@dysk 1272 Did you see it in theater? I've only streamed it and had audio issues.
It’s a Nolan issue. Dark Knight Rises, Inception, and Interstellar all have this sound mixing issue.
@@JoshuaBarberShoppe Now that you mention it, I kinda remember Dark Knight having that issue. Sometimes the music is a bit too loud also.
@@karlwest437 Back and forth and back and forth. Lol
Jesus Christ the SFX was so loud I started to have Vietnam flashbacks and I'm only 21 and European
The thing i miss about the most Nolan films is: a reason to watch them....
I'm glad to see that I wasn't the only one not to have any idea what was going on
Nolan Films (Increasingly): Cold, unengaging characters mumbling meaningfully, while a single clever premise is repeated ad nauseum with increasingly bombastic music and frenzied action... to disguise the cold unengaging characters at the centre of it all
That’s absolutely on point.
the dark knight trilogy didn't suffer from this thankfully
@@Wilantonjakov Bane?
@@Wilantonjakov that's why it's increasingly
prestige and inception didnt suffer either
Robert Pattinson's performance was best thing in the film, imo.
the only good thing
The fact that you've seen Star Trek Enterprise makes me love you even more.
That Dark Knight Rises is really flawed, but there's something epic about it that captures the cinematic spirit of Batman like no other Batman film. It's not the best Batman film, but it's damn entertaining.
Tenant is very much the same. Convoluted and flawed, but a really good watch. I'm just glad a big Hollywood studio is willing to throw gobs of money at something novel and experimental.
The Prestige is Nolan at his absolute best. Incredible film.
Memento Bro. Absolute masterpiece
I think Following is his best and the 3rd Batman movie gets this BS backlash cuz it followed the heath ledger movie but it is actually really good IMO
That was great movie
No question about. It has a compelling story. It looks great, it doesn't have Hans Zimmer re hashing the same handful of tunes over and over. It has a sub text about the magic of the movies versus the hard graft that goes into making them and it has the mystery surrounding the truthfulness of the magicians' respective diaries to one another. Inception is good fun, but every other film you can keep.
Nah Inception my guy
Robert Pattinson has grown into one of the most fascinating actors working today, I dare anyone who has seen The Lighthouse to disagree.
Twilight saga will always disagree with you. Like forever.
I remember seeing Good Time and thinking he was great. Then The Lighthouse convinced me that he's a superb actor.
I'm glad he's finally getting the recognition he deserves.
The Lighthouse was boring, pretentious twaddle, but he was good in it.
Renee Lasswell Pattinson and Defoe were brilliant in that one. Too bad Oscars ghosted them.
David Ricardo Sativa that’s the past he is a great actor
I must say that I really enjoyed the movie. I live for this kind of mind fucks, and I always try to figure out the sequences and fuckups in time travel movies. That the movie is missing "heart" does not bother me, as this is secondary for me in this kind of movie. Heck, even that the Protagonist does not have an actual name isn't a problem for me, as I tend to forget basically all character names even while watching the movie. The weird visions of Nolan and my kaput brain seem to really gel in this regard.
I would really love to see sequels to this movie, that further the story in the past and the future, and expand on the established time travel rules.
I fully understand that this is not for everyone but I enjoyed it a lot. I told a friend the same thing, Drinker said in this review, before I watched this. You'll probably have to watch this more than once to understand what's going on. The difference is, I'm going to do it. To me, this movie felt mostly fresh, innovative and exciting - that's more than I can say about most of the Hollywood output of the recent years. I wasn't bored for a minute.