interesting... This is all very handy to know. As a left handed shooter, the most important thing for me is knowing the RS mag catch actually fits and also makes the button smaller. This way the button is less in the way of me operating the replica. beside that many other great tips and that fix for the slide at the beginning, Golden mate. Thanks and greetings from ,The Netherlands.
In my opinion yes. The Glock 19 is nicer. The Glock 17 isn't bad by any means, but the 19 is just awesome. Most realistic airsoft Glock on the market, no doubt.
WGCShop has them usual in stock. Besides the, you could ask Ehobby or KIC Taiwan if they could cover the trades. It'll be your call though, in case it gets hold up at the customs.
Stark Arms is not as rare as you think. It's only rare to a lot of western countries because the shops don't ship them with trades due to legal issues. All the models, G17, G18c and G19's are in stock here in HK.
Wow. You even have the RS case with all the accessories. Excellent video, I'm trying to make my KJW G23 the most RS-looking possible but I was interested in a Stark G17. After watching your video I know it's a must have, thank you and greetings from France !
zebracherub Thanks for the comment and good luck. Just an FYI Stark have just released the Glock 17 GEN4 model which looks excellent, if you like the GEN4 Glocks be sure to check that out! I was slightly dissappointed in the Stark Glock 17 GEN3.
Non Existent Yes, I saw your thread on Arnies a few days ago :] I think I'll get a Gen 4, as Gen 3 are becoming harder to find and I'm curious about the new recoil guide/nozzle system :)
Hi, coming back to you as Stark Glocks resurface in my mind... In the end, did you end up trying the Gen 4 17? On ebairsoft, it looks ten times better than the Gen 3, not shiny and the slide looks mate and nice. Do you think other than looks, there is a reason to buy the Gen 4 over the Gen 3 ? (mechanical strenghtness, fixed problems... ?) I do love the Gen 3 but I might go for a Gen 4 if it is more reliable / better... Thank you in advance!
Nah, I never got the Glock 17 GEN4. If they did a Glock 19 GEN4 I would get it in a heartbeat :-) As for the finish, they should be the same. EBairsoft pictures: GEN3 taken in direct bright sunlight. GEN4 taken in overcast light. As far as overall looks and realism, I would rank the Stark Arms Glock 17 GEN4 slightly above the GEN3 Glock 17. I do not think they fixed much with the hammer mechanism which is the main problem with the Stark Glocks, but then again I have not heard of any GEN4 hammer mechs breaking. However what I have heard of breaking in the GEN4 is the floating valve, inside the blow back nozzle, due to weak design. It was reported more than once on a forum I frequent. But you can get spare parts for that so it's not exactly a deal breaker. I seem to recall an aftermarket one being done too. But, in the end, if you like the GEN3 over the GEN4, then you should go with the GEN3. :D
Man, thank you so much for your feedback! I see Redwolf Airsoft has a lot of spare parts under the brand GK Tactical so I'm giving these guns a try, sooner or later. Can't wait for their new pistol! 17 Gen 4 got teased in October 2014, G42 got announced in September 2015, it's about time they release something :D Not sure though when they released the 34 Gen 4, it was largely unnoticed and still is...
I look everywhere for HK shops, The place I was talking about just put it back in stock. Apparently, they do not make it frequently, but I learned they are probably not going anywhere. Western shops don't even dare carry them because they have Glock trademarks. Glock hates airsoft. Now that I read my previous comment, the Taiwan markings I was talking about are not WE pistols but actual Austrian proof markings, which are non-US Glocks. I feel pretty stupid now.
Aaah, well, the light was poor, but the content is hopefully usefull! As for the Stark Glock 17 CNC version, it is nice, but I just got the Stark Glock 19 in and it beats it, no question :D Look forward to a video on these shortly!
The G19 is so worth it. And I want to collect a G17 and G18c from Stark Arms just to save money, and better trades. Thanks for the link, however, I find it kinda hard to navigate unless I use google translator. Got any tips, or are you suppose to email the foreign contact info? Plus what are the shipping methods for the US? I also thinking about getting a G23 KJW, but sadly Guader doesn't have any slides anymore, so I might get an Guarder tan slide and use firearm spray paint matte black.
Quick question, where did you buy your SA: G17? I was going to buy it, then it went out of stock... Also what is the manufacturing nature of Stark Arms and how often do they make it? They tend to stock up alot of products on ASGI with no trademarks, but the version with the trades is a bitch to find. Also, the SA G19 (VFC) with trades got restocked at EhobbyAsia. Im so confused if its rare or not, buying this would save me $300 form buying a Tokyo Marui and upgrading it with Taiwan markings.
For realism the Stark hands down. I don't shoot much so can't comment on quality and functionality but I think they are pretty similar. The HK Glocks are a close second though for realism.
Hey wat up I'm trying to purchase the g19 off ehobby Asia but can't seem to find where to type in my credit card info any suggestions its saying PayPal only or sum shit
I want to use the Magpul PTS Speed Plates for Stark Arms Glock magazines. Do you think they will fit? I think PTS makes plates for both Marui and KSC type magazines. Which is Stark more similar to?
Echofiveairsoft End plates as for the slide? Then no it does not. I bought a real one a tried to fit it but the real one is too thick and was not possible to modify and also it was too small to cover the rear hole on the Stark Glock. Sorry! The magazine base plates do fit though, but I think you are asking about the slide plate?
Randy Flores No first hand experience but from what I heard and seen, no most likely not. Stark is a proprietary system, similar to TM, but not a clone.
+sciontc627 First batch was from MidwaySweden, then MidwayUSA, then the latest ones I got from Glock Parts (glockparts.com/), they ship internationally too which is nice. Here is a direct link to the product: glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=7219&CAT=710
Yes. Only minor adjustment you need to do is reduce the diameter of the nub that holds the baseplate in place at the bottom of the magazine. 2 minute job with a rough nail file.
I bought mine from KIC Taiwain. kic . com . tw It seems Stark produce these in limited batches once every other month or so. E-mail any retailers that might have them and put yourself up for a pre-order. I tried getting it from eHobby within 2 minutes of getting the stock alert, then after I had paid I got an e-mail saying it was sold out, so pissed! It is fairly rare, and IMO in terms of external looks and similarities to a real Glock this beats any custom TM Glock you can make!
Hoping you or anyone can help... I just purchased a Stark Arms G18c Gen 3. I've only had it a couple days & the slide does not cycle very smoothly. Sometimes the slide sticks back (without the slide catch) & I have to hit the back of the slide to get it to go back into battery. Also at times when I try to rack the slide, the slide will stop short (maybe an inch or so) of going back into full battery. It seems when the slide gets stuck, if I push down on the back of the barrel then it will close. All of this is also scratching the heck out of my outer barrel. :-( I have read that this is somewhat normal with these when they are new & most say this cycling problem with the slide will go away as the pistol gets broken in. I also have a WE G17 Gen4 & I didn't have this problem with it out of the box. Any thoughts/advice on this issue will be Greatly Appreciated.
+A_P_O_C_1 I recall something like this but I don't remember the solution. I do know this guy had some advice in the form of a video. Check out his channel: th-cam.com/users/RogueSystem087videos But yeah, the Stark Glocks are "sticky" and some of it will go away with time as it wears in, some of it will stay there forever until it breaks :p
Ok,now why can't we find these mag base plates? And man,I want to fucking explode to why no one has invented,or made aluminum inserts instead of them God dang plastic ones? GLOCK...WE DON'T WANT EVERYTHING FUCKING PLASTIC ON OUR GLOCK!!! They say Glock perfection? No,they are not! Not when we want to replace the fucking plastic shit on them! Could someone please tell me where I can get mag floor/base plates without having to use a tool to punch the insert? This shit frustrates me & boggles my mind why all these companies are making all this other shit for our Glocks besides them non plastic inserts...amazing?!
I would advice against the Stark Glock 18C. I got one and the slide has really terrible seam-lines all over it, definatily not worth a buy! As for KIC, e-mail them foreign contact at kicbbgun at gmail .com. Their rep. Jessica speaks great english and will help you out. For shipping to US they offer both regular mail and UPS. You will have to split the gun appart to make it through customs. KJW has overall worse look and feel than Stark Glock 19, better get two Stark 19s than one of each :p
ThisMinecraftPlayer Doubt it. TM parts are so-so compatible with WE. However WE has a thread adapter which works since the outer barrel is threaded on the inside of the muzzle.
Hey I'm from France and all the american website that stocks these floor plates dont ship to France. And its impossible to got it in France. I would like to know if you have any ideas when we can get a floor plate with the glock sign even if its a replca and not the real one, just want the glock sign on the floor plate for my replica . Thanks ;)
I buy these from www.glockparts.com and they ship internationally, can't say for sure they ship to France though. But if you can't get them online try to find a local real gun shop and see if they can get them for you.
Thank you for the answer. Doi have to notify them that its for my airsoft replica or they can sell the floor plate to anyone. Don't we have to prove them that we have a real glock so they can sell us real glock parts ?
That's a great question actually. You do not have to inform glockparts.com of why you are buying parts from them, unless the part requires a license to be purchased from glockparts.com, in which case they will ask you for the proper documentation before they sell you the part. In the US the floor plate does not require a license or approval. On your end it is completely dependent on the local laws and regulations in your country, and it is your own responsibility to know about your local laws. So it might be that for you to buy and import a floor plate you need a license or some sort of approval document. I can't say for sure. However, generally speaking, and for me in Sweden, a floor plate is not considered a part that requires a license and can be bought by anyone. It is a cosmetic part that does not enhance the functionality of the gun and therefor does not require a license.
Thank you very much for your answer , i need to ask about the laws in france. But i ordered one yesterday form an airsoft shop in hink kong , i hope it will fit. Not very sure cuz its a tokyo marry florr plate and my Golock replica is an Army G17. I've heard that the G17 tpkyo marui does not have the right dimensions. will see , i will let you know if it fits. i t will be another thing to know ;)
Right. Army Glock is a TM clone and TM is not same size as real floor plates. So the TM style floor plate should fit your Army magazine but a real Glock floor plate does not fit your Army magazine.
Slicin' N' Dicin' Unfortunately I have sold off my SA Glock 17 so I can't say for sure, but I would think that it would... Hope you can find another source to answer your question!
interesting... This is all very handy to know. As a left handed shooter, the most important thing for me is knowing the RS mag catch actually fits and also makes the button smaller. This way the button is less in the way of me operating the replica. beside that many other great tips and that fix for the slide at the beginning, Golden mate.
Thanks and greetings from ,The Netherlands.
DementeX Thanks for the comment and glad it was useful to you :)
Thanks for the info! btw, I meant a Guarder slide with .40S&W markings (just for kicks, I might not even get it).
In my opinion yes. The Glock 19 is nicer. The Glock 17 isn't bad by any means, but the 19 is just awesome. Most realistic airsoft Glock on the market, no doubt.
WGCShop has them usual in stock.
Besides the, you could ask Ehobby or KIC Taiwan if they could cover the trades. It'll be your call though, in case it gets hold up at the customs.
Stark Arms is not as rare as you think. It's only rare to a lot of western countries because the shops don't ship them with trades due to legal issues.
All the models, G17, G18c and G19's are in stock here in HK.
Thanks for the info!
Wow. You even have the RS case with all the accessories. Excellent video, I'm trying to make my KJW G23 the most RS-looking possible but I was interested in a Stark G17. After watching your video I know it's a must have, thank you and greetings from France !
zebracherub Thanks for the comment and good luck. Just an FYI Stark have just released the Glock 17 GEN4 model which looks excellent, if you like the GEN4 Glocks be sure to check that out! I was slightly dissappointed in the Stark Glock 17 GEN3.
Non Existent Yes, I saw your thread on Arnies a few days ago :] I think I'll get a Gen 4, as Gen 3 are becoming harder to find and I'm curious about the new recoil guide/nozzle system :)
Hi, coming back to you as Stark Glocks resurface in my mind... In the end, did you end up trying the Gen 4 17? On ebairsoft, it looks ten times better than the Gen 3, not shiny and the slide looks mate and nice. Do you think other than looks, there is a reason to buy the Gen 4 over the Gen 3 ? (mechanical strenghtness, fixed problems... ?) I do love the Gen 3 but I might go for a Gen 4 if it is more reliable / better... Thank you in advance!
Nah, I never got the Glock 17 GEN4. If they did a Glock 19 GEN4 I would get it in a heartbeat :-)
As for the finish, they should be the same. EBairsoft pictures: GEN3 taken in direct bright sunlight. GEN4 taken in overcast light.
As far as overall looks and realism, I would rank the Stark Arms Glock 17 GEN4 slightly above the GEN3 Glock 17. I do not think they fixed much with the hammer mechanism which is the main problem with the Stark Glocks, but then again I have not heard of any GEN4 hammer mechs breaking. However what I have heard of breaking in the GEN4 is the floating valve, inside the blow back nozzle, due to weak design. It was reported more than once on a forum I frequent. But you can get spare parts for that so it's not exactly a deal breaker. I seem to recall an aftermarket one being done too.
But, in the end, if you like the GEN3 over the GEN4, then you should go with the GEN3. :D
Man, thank you so much for your feedback! I see Redwolf Airsoft has a lot of spare parts under the brand GK Tactical so I'm giving these guns a try, sooner or later.
Can't wait for their new pistol! 17 Gen 4 got teased in October 2014, G42 got announced in September 2015, it's about time they release something :D Not sure though when they released the 34 Gen 4, it was largely unnoticed and still is...
I look everywhere for HK shops, The place I was talking about just put it back in stock. Apparently, they do not make it frequently, but I learned they are probably not going anywhere. Western shops don't even dare carry them because they have Glock trademarks. Glock hates airsoft.
Now that I read my previous comment, the Taiwan markings I was talking about are not WE pistols but actual Austrian proof markings, which are non-US Glocks. I feel pretty stupid now.
Aaah, well, the light was poor, but the content is hopefully usefull!
As for the Stark Glock 17 CNC version, it is nice, but I just got the Stark Glock 19 in and it beats it, no question :D
Look forward to a video on these shortly!
None of those problems happened to me. Where did you buy it from? I love the vids please make some more
Jacob Gross I got mine from KIC Taiwan.
The G19 is so worth it. And I want to collect a G17 and G18c from Stark Arms just to save money, and better trades. Thanks for the link, however, I find it kinda hard to navigate unless I use google translator. Got any tips, or are you suppose to email the foreign contact info? Plus what are the shipping methods for the US?
I also thinking about getting a G23 KJW, but sadly Guader doesn't have any slides anymore, so I might get an Guarder tan slide and use firearm spray paint matte black.
Quick question, where did you buy your SA: G17?
I was going to buy it, then it went out of stock...
Also what is the manufacturing nature of Stark Arms and how often do they make it? They tend to stock up alot of products on ASGI with no trademarks, but the version with the trades is a bitch to find. Also, the SA G19 (VFC) with trades got restocked at EhobbyAsia.
Im so confused if its rare or not, buying this would save me $300 form buying a Tokyo Marui and upgrading it with Taiwan markings.
So does that mean that the SA: G19 is better than the G17?
In your opinion which is better in quality and functioning, the Hk or Stark arms?
For realism the Stark hands down. I don't shoot much so can't comment on quality and functionality but I think they are pretty similar. The HK Glocks are a close second though for realism.
Thanks
Hey wat up I'm trying to purchase the g19 off ehobby Asia but can't seem to find where to type in my credit card info any suggestions its saying PayPal only or sum shit
I love glock
you can purchase the replica link with RS (glock 17 or S18C) marking, which I think are laser marking ....
thank you
I want to use the Magpul PTS Speed Plates for Stark Arms Glock magazines. Do you think they will fit? I think PTS makes plates for both Marui and KSC type magazines. Which is Stark more similar to?
No, don't think they wil. TM and KSC magazines are different. Stark are RS spec. so get RS MAGPUL speed plates and it's a drop in fit pretty much!
Non Existent Awesome, thanks for replying!
How much was the stark arms g17?
what magwell can i use?
So, do you think I could get a reel steel fiber optic sights, and it’ll fit?
Yep, should work :)
Does this fit real glock endplates? Say I want to get one custom engraved and put it on my stark would that work?
Echofiveairsoft End plates as for the slide? Then no it does not. I bought a real one a tried to fit it but the real one is too thick and was not possible to modify and also it was too small to cover the rear hole on the Stark Glock. Sorry! The magazine base plates do fit though, but I think you are asking about the slide plate?
Hi, have you compared this gun to HK3P glocks? Please tell me which is better in terms of quality
Stark, anytime.
External quality and visually, the Stark for sure. For playing and parts upgrades I would go with HK3P or WE.
Are marui parts ( upgrades ) compatible with stark arms glocks?
Randy Flores No first hand experience but from what I heard and seen, no most likely not. Stark is a proprietary system, similar to TM, but not a clone.
where did you buy the OEM base pad? I have the Stark G17 Gen4
+sciontc627 First batch was from MidwaySweden, then MidwayUSA, then the latest ones I got from Glock Parts (glockparts.com/), they ship internationally too which is nice.
Here is a direct link to the product: glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=7219&CAT=710
thanks
Hi, just to double check and please forgive my stupidty. Those official Glock plates will fit a standard Stark Arms (VFC) magazine?
Yes. Only minor adjustment you need to do is reduce the diameter of the nub that holds the baseplate in place at the bottom of the magazine. 2 minute job with a rough nail file.
Where did you get the base plate?
MidwaySweden. Try MidwayUSA or similar shops. Brownells do not stock them though.
I bought mine from KIC Taiwain. kic . com . tw
It seems Stark produce these in limited batches once every other month or so. E-mail any retailers that might have them and put yourself up for a pre-order.
I tried getting it from eHobby within 2 minutes of getting the stock alert, then after I had paid I got an e-mail saying it was sold out, so pissed!
It is fairly rare, and IMO in terms of external looks and similarities to a real Glock this beats any custom TM Glock you can make!
Hoping you or anyone can help... I just purchased a Stark Arms G18c Gen 3. I've only had it a couple days & the slide does not cycle very smoothly. Sometimes the slide sticks back (without the slide catch) & I have to hit the back of the slide to get it to go back into battery. Also at times when I try to rack the slide, the slide will stop short (maybe an inch or so) of going back into full battery. It seems when the slide gets stuck, if I push down on the back of the barrel then it will close. All of this is also scratching the heck out of my outer barrel. :-( I have read that this is somewhat normal with these when they are new & most say this cycling problem with the slide will go away as the pistol gets broken in. I also have a WE G17 Gen4 & I didn't have this problem with it out of the box. Any thoughts/advice on this issue will be Greatly Appreciated.
+A_P_O_C_1 I recall something like this but I don't remember the solution. I do know this guy had some advice in the form of a video. Check out his channel: th-cam.com/users/RogueSystem087videos
But yeah, the Stark Glocks are "sticky" and some of it will go away with time as it wears in, some of it will stay there forever until it breaks :p
+Non Existent Thank you for your response & the link. I sub'd your channel.
why my stark arms glock looks different?
Different how?
is there any hardshell holster that will fit the vfc stark arms g17/g19
SteamAirsoft Sorry I don't have any good experience nor info on this to answer.
+Non Existent IMI and safariland holsters will take them that i know
link from site ordered? please and thanks
The gun?
www.airsoftglobal.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=51_391&sort=6d&filter_id=452&alpha_filter_id=0
Will it fit a Glock 17 Blackhawk level 3 holster
Jacob Gross Sorry, not sure!
Ok,now why can't we find these mag base plates?
And man,I want to fucking explode to why no one has invented,or made aluminum inserts instead of them God dang plastic ones?
GLOCK...WE DON'T WANT EVERYTHING FUCKING PLASTIC ON OUR GLOCK!!!
They say Glock perfection?
No,they are not!
Not when we want to replace the fucking plastic shit on them!
Could someone please tell me where I can get mag floor/base plates without having to use a tool to punch the insert?
This shit frustrates me & boggles my mind why all these companies are making all this other shit for our Glocks besides them non plastic inserts...amazing?!
what hardshell holster will fit it?
allahalla13 Sorry I do not know if this is RS spec'd or not.
thanks anyway bro, it isnt, its wider
I would advice against the Stark Glock 18C. I got one and the slide has really terrible seam-lines all over it, definatily not worth a buy!
As for KIC, e-mail them foreign contact at kicbbgun at gmail .com. Their rep. Jessica speaks great english and will help you out. For shipping to US they offer both regular mail and UPS. You will have to split the gun appart to make it through customs.
KJW has overall worse look and feel than Stark Glock 19, better get two Stark 19s than one of each :p
Will this barrel fit/work on this weapon?
www.evike.com/products/40939/
I really want to attach an extended barrel + high output valve to bump fps .-.
ThisMinecraftPlayer Doubt it. TM parts are so-so compatible with WE. However WE has a thread adapter which works since the outer barrel is threaded on the inside of the muzzle.
Hey I'm from France and all the american website that stocks these floor plates dont ship to France. And its impossible to got it in France.
I would like to know if you have any ideas when we can get a floor plate with the glock sign even if its a replca and not the real one, just want the glock sign on the floor plate for my replica . Thanks ;)
I buy these from www.glockparts.com and they ship internationally, can't say for sure they ship to France though.
But if you can't get them online try to find a local real gun shop and see if they can get them for you.
Thank you for the answer. Doi have to notify them that its for my airsoft replica or they can sell the floor plate to anyone. Don't we have to prove them that we have a real glock so they can sell us real glock parts ?
That's a great question actually. You do not have to inform glockparts.com of why you are buying parts from them, unless the part requires a license to be purchased from glockparts.com, in which case they will ask you for the proper documentation before they sell you the part. In the US the floor plate does not require a license or approval.
On your end it is completely dependent on the local laws and regulations in your country, and it is your own responsibility to know about your local laws.
So it might be that for you to buy and import a floor plate you need a license or some sort of approval document. I can't say for sure.
However, generally speaking, and for me in Sweden, a floor plate is not considered a part that requires a license and can be bought by anyone. It is a cosmetic part that does not enhance the functionality of the gun and therefor does not require a license.
Thank you very much for your answer , i need to ask about the laws in france. But i ordered one yesterday form an airsoft shop in hink kong , i hope it will fit. Not very sure cuz its a tokyo marry florr plate and my Golock replica is an Army G17. I've heard that the G17 tpkyo marui does not have the right dimensions. will see , i will let you know if it fits. i t will be another thing to know ;)
Right. Army Glock is a TM clone and TM is not same size as real floor plates. So the TM style floor plate should fit your Army magazine but a real Glock floor plate does not fit your Army magazine.
Will this magazine work/fit in a stark arms g19?
www.asiaairsoft.com/index_eproduct_view.php?products_id=6961
Slicin' N' Dicin' Unfortunately I have sold off my SA Glock 17 so I can't say for sure, but I would think that it would... Hope you can find another source to answer your question!
hmmmm
Hmmmmmmmmm...? :D
I DONT FUCKIG CARE ABOUT A GODAMN BASE PLATE
Alright, duly noted, sir! :)
i care !! i"m looking for one everywhere !!!