I 100% agree with Alex that Emory will help save Crosshair. When he stunned her I knew she’d have to have thoughts about it when he didn’t hesitate to kill the TK Troopers. She even seemed saddened when she told him there was no way out. Edit: Oh boy was I hilariously wrong.
I wouldn't be surprised if she helps. Throughout the episode, we saw she seems similar to what Dr Pershing appears to be. They both seem to be cloning experts who don't want their test subjects and prisoners to be tortured and killed.
@@kivimik She does sound a lot like an adult version of Omega and I thought she helped Crosshair escape by loosening his strap and leaving that blaster within reach.
I loved seeing the Senator's aides/guards making coffee and bringing it to the clones. It shows a level of empathy from Chuchi's people that gives me a warm feeling.
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet
@@linphou5739 the clones wanna be accepted by the people. If they kill the TK troopers, the people won't be accepting of the clones as they are killing someones relatives who will not forget what the clones did
What really gets me is that we see Crosshair truly vulnerable and powerless compared to how we was earlier in the show. Even with Mayday, he still retained some grit. But here, he’s genuinely fearful as he attempts to send a warning signal and as he does his best to endure the Interrogation Droid.
So, Emerie...her voice is a little Omega-ish. For now, I'm going with "also a Clone" but with growth acceleration. She's Nala Se's plant or something. And she's helping clones where she can. Or something.
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer or others didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet
1) I love that you can hear a distorted, distant-sounding variation of Mayday's leitmotif when Crosshair is taken to the interrogation room, and when he finds a console to send out his warning. 2) It's peculiar to me that Tarkin - and Sid, in previous episodes - has a coloured hologram. I'm so used to seeing them as only blue or only red. I thought that Snoke's hologram in _The Force Awakens_ was a sign that hologram technology had advanced, but clearly that's been a thing for decades.
There was the hologram used in the D-Squad arc of the Clone Wars that was full of so much color that Col. Meebur Gasgon thought they were real Clones on the Venator bridge, as well as the holographic disguise matrix in the Rako Hardeen arc.
I can’t get over how good the opening sequence was. Super well shot, fast paced, action packed. It really makes me wish the show was about the Bad Batch actively in the fight. Seriously, it’s been 2 seasons and we’ve yet to see the Bad Batch actually fight together and win a fight using their enhancements
I love that Hemlock calls Tarkin "Governor", as was explained in the Tarkin book, some people addressed him as "Governor" even though he was Grand Moff....though it just occurred to me that he may not be Grand Moff at this point in the time line?
It's kind of confusing. Takin was planetary Governor of the industrial Outer Rim World of Eriadu. But when the Clone Wars began, because of his previous combat experience in a defense fleet he became a Navy officer, going from Captain to Admiral as one of the Supreme Chancellor's "favored ones". Then he was named "Moff", which designated the an official as "Governor" of an entire sector instead of a particular system. AND THEN ... the designation of Grand Moff was created, as "Governor" of an Oversector, which combined several sectors that the Empire thought were needing "special attention" into one political unit. So Tarkin was essentially wearing three different administrative "hats", which each were technically designated "Governor".
With the mention of the summit in this episode being a Imperial meeting the structure of the finale is obvious now. The Summit will be Tech hacking to find the Doctor's itinerary and they crash the summit to either put a tracker or sneak onto the Doctor's shuttle to find Mt Tantis, hopefully we get to see the meeting so we can get Imperial mission names. Then Plan 99 will be them attempting to rescue Crosshair. The ramifications of CId will be a season 3 thing and what they learn about Mt Tantis will convince them to join the clone rebellion.
I think 'Plan 99' will also mean sacrifice, as in, someone in our beloved batch will die saving the others. The way SW nearly always does recall storytelling, I am reminded of 99 and his sacrifice during the battle of Kamino.
Seeing Emory standing being Hemlock reminded me of Vader standing behind Palpatine when he was electrocuting Luke. That passiveness turning to hesitation turning to introspection turning to action.
This episode showed us the affection and bounding among members of Clone Force 99. It's hard to think they gona lose these days of peace and happiness. It reminds me old western or samurai films when someone decides to retire from a life of violence and soon he discovers that violence finds him and he should make a last sacrifice abbandoning the peace for those innocent around him. I'm really afraid with the safety of our boys 😢. Each member of Clone Force 99 is dearst to me. I don't wanna loose one of them. I like to watch the development of each personality while they seek new purposes or place to live.
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer or others didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet
Can never understand why clones (in universe) don't steal TK or Stormtrooper armour more often. Crosshair could move much more inconspicuous through the base and it would probably have airfilters aswell
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet
Love that Echo & Gregor fly a Modified Corellian CSS-1 Star Shuttle, the same model ship that will one day save their brother Kix from Separatist Cryo Sleep! The Meson Martinet was a cool vessel in The Force Awakens and Resistance, but it’s awesome that the ship class has more Clone liberation in it’s lineage! 😁
Something worth noting in the rescue of Howzer and his men was that the ship Echo, Gregor, Fireball and Nemec were using to board the Gozanti was the same model of starship Sidon Ithano was using as the Meson Martinet almost four decades later. The leech ship also fits the pirate style of boarding and raiding merchant starships, as well as creating a boarding entry while the ship is 'docked' to distract the onboard sentries and make them assume they are entering the raided ship from the docked ring.
I am of the opinion that Rex will be part of the strike team in Mount Tantiss and that will be why he's on the dry planet with Gregor and Wulff instead of being on Pabu with the bad batch, that somehow the horrors of that place will make him opt out of his efforts to free the clones and make him want to vanish.
I think it's a little far fetched to say something that happens in this episode is the reason why Rex is where he is 15 years later. Not everyone just sits on the same planet for 20 years like Yoda.
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet
If there’s one thing about my brain that I appreciate it’s that it likes little details of seeing things like clones having their own designs for their armor and helmets Maybe if we see a small clone uprising happen at Mount Tantis next week we can see all them in action
One of my favorite parts of this episode is when Crosshair escapes I said to my self “ even groggy Crosshair still shoots like a champion” and then he started missing and I freaked out.
Personally, I've been enjoying the Bad Batch more than the Mandalorian S3. Maybe because Andor spoiled me due to it's high quality feeling to it or BB S2 is almost over, but it feels like the Mandalorian are currently only playing around(except for the Dr. Pershing stuff, my fav so far). I'm sure it'll get better later on in the season.
Hemlock is a great level up from Rampart. The Batch hesitating hearing Crosshair’s message is heartbreaking. Life for Omega and the Batch on Pabu is beautiful. This show is so freaking good!
If you look closely at Emory near the end of the episode, she is looking down and her eyes are moving a lot. That gives me the impression she is having second thoughts about Hemlock and their experiments on the clones.
I think Emory let him escape so he can try and get in contact with Clone Force 99 so they can track them down or cause the Bad Batch to react so they can capture them.
1:35 it’s noteworthy that the Echo and the clones had only stunned everyone, the Empire came and destroyed the Gozanti-class Cruiser loaded with TK troopers.
Did anyone catch the Light Side motif as we transitioned from Chuchi's visit to the Pabu sequence? This is in stark contrast to the Imperial notes as the Venator appear. Coincidence? I think not. It's clearly signifying the rise of the Empire and the spark of the Rebellion.
The guy's name is Hemlock, which is a highly toxic plant, so it all makes sense. If you don't know of the Pontic King Mithridates, also known as the Poison King, I got serious Mithridates vibes with Hemlock.
I like the details of the show naval shift, they only use v-wings, ships deploy from venators out of the bottom like an ISD, and the gozanti has now become the defacto frigate of the empire (i like how it’s more based on mando than its rebels design)
Remember, we're seeing a small sliver of Imperials who were specifically chosen to work on one of the most secret projects Palpatine was cooking up. Rebels mostly dealt with Lothal, an Outer Rim backwater (Until Thrawn showed up).
I thought it was cool that the 2 clones that help rescued Howzer and the 2 brothers had 41st legion green marking and one of them is call Nemec (almost like a nod to Nemek from Andor). I feel like after Crosshair see the empire for what it is, he changed his mind about being a soldier for empire. Had he not part take that mission with Mayday, he may have jump on the chance to be part of next experimental trooper. I do really want to know what the thoughts are of the Clone Commando not saying anything about their clone brothers been so poorly treated. Emory is going to be interesting one because it does looks like she wants to work for Empire but not as cold hearted as Hemlock. I will said thou, Scorch is still out there so we might see Delta faceoff against Batch next week.
Love The Bad Batch, the amount of world building and character development is on a similar scale as Andor. Probably why I prefer it to Mando, which I find as too much action based for my tastes.
I have a hard time choosing, if I had to. I would pick both of them over Andor, so it isn’t like I can’t choose. I think it says a lot about the strength of Bad Batch, going up against a live action series.
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet
I wondered if Crosshair's missing shots was due to him being drugged/tortured or if it was suppose to show the faultiness of the weapons the empire is suppling to ST. Maybe they never hit their target because the empire supplied them with a bunch of cheap or defective weapons.
I always love seeing imperials interact with their superiors like when Hemlock is talking to Tarkin, even though Hemlock has proved to be this ruthless guy but in the eyes of Tarkin he is literally nothing. It's like when Mas Ameda was talking to Rampart it's like those who really know Palpatine truly know that the empier IS Palpatine.
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer or others didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet at least crosshairs did kill the human troopers ah I mean tk troopers
I love this episode but I have 2 nitpicks. After stunning the clone commando on the Gozanti they just left him. The whole thing was a rescue of 3 rogue clones, so why didn't they take the commando with them and get his chip removed? Also, why are they stunning the TK troopers? I get why they stun fellow clones but they shouldn't care about their replacements.
Maybe they just decided on a more nonlethal approach because they don't necessarily blame the TK troopers? Or perhaps erring on the side of caution that they don't kill any of their own. As for not, um, "liberating" (aka kidnapping) the clone commando for his own good, he may not be willing enough to help them after he recovers. Why take the chance of someone revealing your operation?
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer or others didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet at least crosshairs did kill the human troopers ah I mean tk troopers
They don’t want to come across as terrorists, likely. Also, removing the chip won’t automatically make the clone not loyal to the empire. It just cuts off all the Order 66 triggers like killing a Jedi and anyone who disobeys the order/aides a Jedi.
Love that after all these eyears we finally see revenge if the sith esc clones with pouches and stuff like in the mast padawan I've always though the clone wars clone looked to plain an unpractical for theryre missions
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer or others didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet at least crosshairs did kill tk troopers
Seeing this big rescue mission with Howzer and his boys reminded me that we still haven;t gotten any update on Cody's fate. Can't wait to see what they decide to do with him.
Dr. Ball... now that's a name I've not heard in a long, long time... Also, I caught that the prison planet from the beginning is Balmorra. I recognize that planet from The Old Republic MMO. (I have a theme from the planet on a playlist I use for Star Wars RPG battles.)
When the season began, I predicted Crosshair would die. But now I really don't want that to happen. The dude needs to be back with his brothers and needs a little break on Pabu
Fantastic episode I just think they could have put this episode earlier in the season, skipped a few Sid missions and instead given us a few episodes with Echo and Rex it would have given a better flow in the season
Hemlock is such a great name for a man like him. Hemlock is a very poisonous and dangerous plant that grows here in the US that looks exactly like another plant, Queen Anne’s Lace, which is harmless
Could there be any correlation between Plan 99 & Order 99? According to Wookieepedia (the one truth); Order 99 was a directive for the Separatist Droid Army during the Clone Wars. It was issued during a battle on the planet Bogoa to the B1-Series battle droid Coppertop by Count Dooku, on the orders of Darth Sidious, who sought to test the battle droid's ability to change allegiances as a precursor to the Grand Army of the Republic's own Order 66. Perhaps Crosshair was trying to communicate (to his brothers) that he has switched allegiances to help protect Omega.
Is it possible that the yellow toxin that knocked out Crosshair is the gas that contaminated the crashed ship on Kenari from Andor? It's mentioned Hemlock was part of the Republic science division too.
We had some great ship content this episode; love Imperial era Gozantis, and Echo's transport ship is such a neat design that it was an instant favorite even before we saw details like the leech pod! Emerie is an interesting character. As others have said, she seems like she's probably another clone. The accent, the skin tone, the eye colour, she's even the same height as the other adult clones. At this point, I would be astonished if she's _not_ a clone. Very interested to see where they go with this.
Go back to the end of the episode when cross hair has been re-captured and is asked about omega look at his face when he turns to look at the officer. Also look at Omega's face when she finds out that it was crosshair who sent the message to them. 😭
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer or others didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet at least crosshairs did kill the human troopers ah I mean tk troopers
Tantiss and Hemlock's offer has definite vibes of 'The Prisoner' (Patrick McGoohan) and the Village. This summit, on the other hand, stinks of the Nazi Wannsee Conference - the one which set up the 'Final Solution'. Don't know if he'll survive, but I can imagine Cid having to deal with Crosshair.
It was unsettling to see an Imperial Officer use the shock tooth this early in the timeline. It made sense for a "blank" clone assassin, and in the Mandalorian when only the most fanatically loyal Imperials are still fighting, but to see that kind of behavior in someone that was presumably fighting for the Republic so recently was scary.
What if the "The Summit" is a nod to the Wannsee Conference that the Nazi's held to discuss the implementation of the Final Solution except in this case it is the to discuss the extermination of the clones thus leading to Operation 99. Op 99 can go either way. An Empire operation to end the clones or Clone Force operation to save the clones once they find out about the Empires plan. Setting up Season 3.
With 80 of Houzer's men joining him makes me wonder what is the percentage of clones by TBB S2 E14 have left the empire and then how many are fighting against it.
"I'm not doing this because I want to beat someone, or because I hate someone, or because, because I want to blame someone. It's not because it's fun and God knows it's not because it's easy. It's not even because it works, because it hardly ever does. I do what I do, because it's right!" The 12th Doctor 😁
I think Emory was already on Crosshair's side. She was the one that let Crosshair out of his restraints. He would not have been able to get the jump on the TKs otherwise. Either she is very incompetent, which seems unlikely, or she wanted him to get that message out.
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer or others didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet at least crosshairs did kill the human troopers ah I mean tk troopers
I finally figured out where I’ve heard the doctor’s voice before. Star Wars: The Old Republic. He plays almost the same character, an evil doctor doing disturbing experiments with an unnerving voice and perspective on life.
I wonder if plan 88 has anything to do with the contingency orders, order 88 maybe has something to do with the clone army and that might be their personal plan for when that happens.
They mentioned the mission where they came up with the plan, which was a escape plan because they were being hunted. So it was Crosshair quickly telling them they need to run.
Idk about anyone else but I definitely think that this was the 4th time in a row where the bad batch episode has been better than the Mando season 3 episode that came out the same day
My headcanon is that they still are in shock over Order 66, and still grappling with the fact that they were pawns in Palpatine’s game. The TK troopers are no different than them and are basically untrained grunts from across the galaxy, so it makes sense to me that they wouldn’t use lethal force when they have the chance. Regardless, we know that this mentality wears off eventually because Rex and the clones have no qualms downing Stormtroopers in rebels.
Echo, Gregor and Howzer. I was sold.
Agreed lmao. As soon as I heard Gregor’s voice I immediately perked up. I adore Gregor, he means so much to me
I 100% agree with Alex that Emory will help save Crosshair. When he stunned her I knew she’d have to have thoughts about it when he didn’t hesitate to kill the TK Troopers. She even seemed saddened when she told him there was no way out.
Edit: Oh boy was I hilariously wrong.
I feel like she is a prisoner of sorts as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if she helps. Throughout the episode, we saw she seems similar to what Dr Pershing appears to be. They both seem to be cloning experts who don't want their test subjects and prisoners to be tortured and killed.
@@abdurrahmansabri8181 With more dialogue from her this episode, I swear I heard a dialect similar to Omega; I wonder if Emerie is a clone herself.
@@kivimik Glad I wasn't the only one who thought she could possibly be a clone. She also looks like a clone, but gender reversed
@@kivimik She does sound a lot like an adult version of Omega and I thought she helped Crosshair escape by loosening his strap and leaving that blaster within reach.
Watching Hemlock willingly breathe in his own toxin was quite chilling
That it is. I can only imagine him huffing a lot of it to build up that tolerance.
It’s also possible it’s a toxin developed specifically to affect clones
the fact that his name is literally a poisonous flower makes it 10 times better lol
Yeah, that was absolutely creepy like no wonder he got kicked out of the Republic.
He truly embodies his role in the empire.
I absolutely loved that omega called it "the tech turn"
Adorable af
Ι love how Tech was immediately like "You know what? I vibe with that name"
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I loved seeing the Senator's aides/guards making coffee and bringing it to the clones. It shows a level of empathy from Chuchi's people that gives me a warm feeling.
The moment I saw the clones on the ship, I was filled with so much hype! Clone Rebellion! Not just for the republic but for their brothers in arms!
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet
@@linphou5739 the clones wanna be accepted by the people. If they kill the TK troopers, the people won't be accepting of the clones as they are killing someones relatives who will not forget what the clones did
@linphou5739 its not a poison chip.
What really gets me is that we see Crosshair truly vulnerable and powerless compared to how we was earlier in the show. Even with Mayday, he still retained some grit. But here, he’s genuinely fearful as he attempts to send a warning signal and as he does his best to endure the Interrogation Droid.
So, Emerie...her voice is a little Omega-ish. For now, I'm going with "also a Clone" but with growth acceleration. She's Nala Se's plant or something. And she's helping clones where she can. Or something.
her voice, her eyes, he nose, her lips, and her behavior are ALL obviously clone-like
Obvious now, but yeah, there were leaks on the final episode around the time the season started... so i wasn't surprised sadly...
Hemlock is literally named after a poison, so him being untrustworthy (and immune to his own poison) makes a lot of sense
It was incredible. Really happy what they are doing with the clones. Really excited for the finale. What will they do???
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet
Yeah, Wrecker did seem kinda giddy about that fish, didn’t he? I liked that scene. His childish enthusiasm is so endearing.
Love how even to this day we are still getting new Named (and unique) Clones! Mayday, Fireball, and Nemec
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer or others didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet
@@linphou5739they aren't poison chips bro wtf ahahaha
I like Tech's response to hearing "the Tech turn".
1) I love that you can hear a distorted, distant-sounding variation of Mayday's leitmotif when Crosshair is taken to the interrogation room, and when he finds a console to send out his warning.
2) It's peculiar to me that Tarkin - and Sid, in previous episodes - has a coloured hologram. I'm so used to seeing them as only blue or only red. I thought that Snoke's hologram in _The Force Awakens_ was a sign that hologram technology had advanced, but clearly that's been a thing for decades.
If you watch the the original trilogy, there are "colored" holograms aswell. But the technology is the most advanced in episode VII.
@@derpoltergeist8265 I think that's more to do with the real-world hologram effect not being perfected yet.
There was the hologram used in the D-Squad arc of the Clone Wars that was full of so much color that Col. Meebur Gasgon thought they were real Clones on the Venator bridge, as well as the holographic disguise matrix in the Rako Hardeen arc.
@@HistoryUnwound I completely forgot those.
I think it's Crosshair's leitmotif. We hear a variation of it in Solitary Clone, and at the finale of season 1
I kinda fear plan 99 is a heroic sacrifice for their brothers, named in honor of their team’s namesake and the first clone that wasn’t a Reg.
I can’t get over how good the opening sequence was. Super well shot, fast paced, action packed. It really makes me wish the show was about the Bad Batch actively in the fight. Seriously, it’s been 2 seasons and we’ve yet to see the Bad Batch actually fight together and win a fight using their enhancements
I love that Hemlock calls Tarkin "Governor", as was explained in the Tarkin book, some people addressed him as "Governor" even though he was Grand Moff....though it just occurred to me that he may not be Grand Moff at this point in the time line?
It's kind of confusing.
Takin was planetary Governor of the industrial Outer Rim World of Eriadu. But when the Clone Wars began, because of his previous combat experience in a defense fleet he became a Navy officer, going from Captain to Admiral as one of the Supreme Chancellor's "favored ones".
Then he was named "Moff", which designated the an official as "Governor" of an entire sector instead of a particular system.
AND THEN ... the designation of Grand Moff was created, as "Governor" of an Oversector, which combined several sectors that the Empire thought were needing "special attention" into one political unit.
So Tarkin was essentially wearing three different administrative "hats", which each were technically designated "Governor".
@@kenle2 The Tarkin book clears all that up.
I’m thinking Emory may be a female clone of Jango. Her hinted sympathy for Crosshair, the New Zealand accent. I just got a feeling.
With the mention of the summit in this episode being a Imperial meeting the structure of the finale is obvious now. The Summit will be Tech hacking to find the Doctor's itinerary and they crash the summit to either put a tracker or sneak onto the Doctor's shuttle to find Mt Tantis, hopefully we get to see the meeting so we can get Imperial mission names. Then Plan 99 will be them attempting to rescue Crosshair.
The ramifications of CId will be a season 3 thing and what they learn about Mt Tantis will convince them to join the clone rebellion.
I think 'Plan 99' will also mean sacrifice, as in, someone in our beloved batch will die saving the others. The way SW nearly always does recall storytelling, I am reminded of 99 and his sacrifice during the battle of Kamino.
Seeing Emory standing being Hemlock reminded me of Vader standing behind Palpatine when he was electrocuting Luke. That passiveness turning to hesitation turning to introspection turning to action.
I gotta say, Bad Batch killed it this week. The Mandalorian was better this week too, but man this episode was just so good
This episode showed us the affection and bounding among members of Clone Force 99. It's hard to think they gona lose these days of peace and happiness. It reminds me old western or samurai films when someone decides to retire from a life of violence and soon he discovers that violence finds him and he should make a last sacrifice abbandoning the peace for those innocent around him.
I'm really afraid with the safety of our boys 😢. Each member of Clone Force 99 is dearst to me. I don't wanna loose one of them. I like to watch the development of each personality while they seek new purposes or place to live.
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer or others didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet
Can never understand why clones (in universe) don't steal TK or Stormtrooper armour more often. Crosshair could move much more inconspicuous through the base and it would probably have airfilters aswell
He’s too tall
Takes to much time to animate
He’s in a rush. No time to take the armor off and then put it on yourself. And it wouldn’t be very convincing if the armor had blaster marks
@@thedapperdolphin1590 Yep, just look at Tobias Beckett.
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet
Love that Echo & Gregor fly a Modified Corellian CSS-1 Star Shuttle, the same model ship that will one day save their brother Kix from Separatist Cryo Sleep!
The Meson Martinet was a cool vessel in The Force Awakens and Resistance, but it’s awesome that the ship class has more Clone liberation in it’s lineage! 😁
Great episode, I also luv seeing Omegas flight training with Tech.
Omega called the sharp turn maneuver, the "Tech-turn".
I love it whenever Crosshair is in the scene you hear "Weren't Loyal to Me" mixed with Maydays theme.
Can confirm... that was exactly what it was like teaching my kids to drive. 😂🤣
Something worth noting in the rescue of Howzer and his men was that the ship Echo, Gregor, Fireball and Nemec were using to board the Gozanti was the same model of starship Sidon Ithano was using as the Meson Martinet almost four decades later.
The leech ship also fits the pirate style of boarding and raiding merchant starships, as well as creating a boarding entry while the ship is 'docked' to distract the onboard sentries and make them assume they are entering the raided ship from the docked ring.
Loved the episode.
The female doctor (Emery?) was conflicted and I think may even be a clone herself.
I agree that she'll help at some point.
I am of the opinion that Rex will be part of the strike team in Mount Tantiss and that will be why he's on the dry planet with Gregor and Wulff instead of being on Pabu with the bad batch, that somehow the horrors of that place will make him opt out of his efforts to free the clones and make him want to vanish.
I think it's a little far fetched to say something that happens in this episode is the reason why Rex is where he is 15 years later. Not everyone just sits on the same planet for 20 years like Yoda.
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet
Don’t think it’ll wrap up this soon, I feel we’ll get at least 2 more seasons
@@linphou5739 can you not Spam the same reply under every comment?
@@linphou5739 most don't know about the chips and second he's sane and not a psychopath storm troopers are still people.
I’m just glad Crosshair is okay, for now.
Yes, i really hope he ll make it
At least he killed human troopers ah I mean stormtroopers
@@linphou5739 why do you say "human troopers" in every Single comment and than "I mean stormtroopers". Just say stormtroopers
If there’s one thing about my brain that I appreciate it’s that it likes little details of seeing things like clones having their own designs for their armor and helmets
Maybe if we see a small clone uprising happen at Mount Tantis next week we can see all them in action
Super cool that the clones used the old droid boarding method. The very thing that gave them fits in the clone wars
I like how you called the interrogation droid Dr. Ball. Nice nod to Robot Chicken
One of my favorite parts of this episode is when Crosshair escapes I said to my self “ even groggy Crosshair still shoots like a champion” and then he started missing and I freaked out.
Personally, I've been enjoying the Bad Batch more than the Mandalorian S3.
Maybe because Andor spoiled me due to it's high quality feeling to it or BB S2 is almost over, but it feels like the Mandalorian are currently only playing around(except for the Dr. Pershing stuff, my fav so far).
I'm sure it'll get better later on in the season.
Hemlock is a great level up from Rampart. The Batch hesitating hearing Crosshair’s message is heartbreaking. Life for Omega and the Batch on Pabu is beautiful. This show is so freaking good!
This episode was great, I hope Clone Force 99 saves Crosshair. Love the Dr. Ball reference
If you look closely at Emory near the end of the episode, she is looking down and her eyes are moving a lot. That gives me the impression she is having second thoughts about Hemlock and their experiments on the clones.
I think Emory let him escape so he can try and get in contact with Clone Force 99 so they can track them down or cause the Bad Batch to react so they can capture them.
1:35 it’s noteworthy that the Echo and the clones had only stunned everyone, the Empire came and destroyed the Gozanti-class Cruiser loaded with TK troopers.
Did anyone catch the Light Side motif as we transitioned from Chuchi's visit to the Pabu sequence? This is in stark contrast to the Imperial notes as the Venator appear. Coincidence? I think not. It's clearly signifying the rise of the Empire and the spark of the Rebellion.
The guy's name is Hemlock, which is a highly toxic plant, so it all makes sense.
If you don't know of the Pontic King Mithridates, also known as the Poison King, I got serious Mithridates vibes with Hemlock.
I like the details of the show naval shift, they only use v-wings, ships deploy from venators out of the bottom like an ISD, and the gozanti has now become the defacto frigate of the empire (i like how it’s more based on mando than its rebels design)
Anyone else feels that the burgeoning Empire of the Bad Batch feels more like the Empire than what we saw in Rebels?
I suppose they had been complacent at that point. After 14 years?
Remember, we're seeing a small sliver of Imperials who were specifically chosen to work on one of the most secret projects Palpatine was cooking up.
Rebels mostly dealt with Lothal, an Outer Rim backwater (Until Thrawn showed up).
@@kenle2 yeah but the empire was still incompetent when thrawn showed up
I thought it was cool that the 2 clones that help rescued Howzer and the 2 brothers had 41st legion green marking and one of them is call Nemec (almost like a nod to Nemek from Andor). I feel like after Crosshair see the empire for what it is, he changed his mind about being a soldier for empire. Had he not part take that mission with Mayday, he may have jump on the chance to be part of next experimental trooper. I do really want to know what the thoughts are of the Clone Commando not saying anything about their clone brothers been so poorly treated. Emory is going to be interesting one because it does looks like she wants to work for Empire but not as cold hearted as Hemlock. I will said thou, Scorch is still out there so we might see Delta faceoff against Batch next week.
we need more episodes like this, dark and rich in lore
Tech + Crosshair are the best of this show. Always.
Love The Bad Batch, the amount of world building and character development is on a similar scale as Andor. Probably why I prefer it to Mando, which I find as too much action based for my tastes.
I have a hard time choosing, if I had to. I would pick both of them over Andor, so it isn’t like I can’t choose.
I think it says a lot about the strength of Bad Batch, going up against a live action series.
Interesting the clones used stun to take them down. And yet the Venator doesn’t hesitate to just blast the ship rather then having them escape.
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet
They referenced the prison Hauser was being kept at was on Balmorra. Which is a SWTOR reference IIRC
I wondered if Crosshair's missing shots was due to him being drugged/tortured or if it was suppose to show the faultiness of the weapons the empire is suppling to ST. Maybe they never hit their target because the empire supplied them with a bunch of cheap or defective weapons.
Hemlock enjoyed watching Crosshair getting tortured. Which makes him even creepier.
Your not wrong.
As soon as he showed up, I yelled, "DOCTOR BALL!!!!!!". 😂
I also loved this episode.
I always love seeing imperials interact with their superiors like when Hemlock is talking to Tarkin, even though Hemlock has proved to be this ruthless guy but in the eyes of Tarkin he is literally nothing. It's like when Mas Ameda was talking to Rampart it's like those who really know Palpatine truly know that the empier IS Palpatine.
Those new clones *chefs kiss
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer or others didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet at least crosshairs did kill the human troopers ah I mean tk troopers
I love this episode but I have 2 nitpicks. After stunning the clone commando on the Gozanti they just left him. The whole thing was a rescue of 3 rogue clones, so why didn't they take the commando with them and get his chip removed? Also, why are they stunning the TK troopers? I get why they stun fellow clones but they shouldn't care about their replacements.
Maybe they just decided on a more nonlethal approach because they don't necessarily blame the TK troopers? Or perhaps erring on the side of caution that they don't kill any of their own. As for not, um, "liberating" (aka kidnapping) the clone commando for his own good, he may not be willing enough to help them after he recovers. Why take the chance of someone revealing your operation?
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer or others didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet at least crosshairs did kill the human troopers ah I mean tk troopers
They don’t want to come across as terrorists, likely.
Also, removing the chip won’t automatically make the clone not loyal to the empire. It just cuts off all the Order 66 triggers like killing a Jedi and anyone who disobeys the order/aides a Jedi.
Dr. Ball! Two words that are guaranteed to send me back down a Star Wars Robot Chicken rabbit hole.
Love that after all these eyears we finally see revenge if the sith esc clones with pouches and stuff like in the mast padawan I've always though the clone wars clone looked to plain an unpractical for theryre missions
I do hope to save Crosshair from tangos the Bad Batch build a sort of clone Avengers including Howzer, Gregor and Rex
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer or others didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet at least crosshairs did kill tk troopers
Did anyone else like the very first shot of locations like mount tantis was gorgeous in that first intro scene
Seeing this big rescue mission with Howzer and his boys reminded me that we still haven;t gotten any update on Cody's fate. Can't wait to see what they decide to do with him.
Dr. Ball... now that's a name I've not heard in a long, long time...
Also, I caught that the prison planet from the beginning is Balmorra. I recognize that planet from The Old Republic MMO. (I have a theme from the planet on a playlist I use for Star Wars RPG battles.)
When the season began, I predicted Crosshair would die. But now I really don't want that to happen. The dude needs to be back with his brothers and needs a little break on Pabu
Fantastic episode I just think they could have put this episode earlier in the season, skipped a few Sid missions and instead given us a few episodes with Echo and Rex it would have given a better flow in the season
Hemlock is such a great name for a man like him. Hemlock is a very poisonous and dangerous plant that grows here in the US that looks exactly like another plant, Queen Anne’s Lace, which is harmless
Could there be any correlation between Plan 99 & Order 99?
According to Wookieepedia (the one truth);
Order 99 was a directive for the Separatist Droid Army during the Clone Wars. It was issued during a battle on the planet Bogoa to the B1-Series battle droid Coppertop by Count Dooku, on the orders of Darth Sidious, who sought to test the battle droid's ability to change allegiances as a precursor to the Grand Army of the Republic's own Order 66.
Perhaps Crosshair was trying to communicate (to his brothers) that he has switched allegiances to help protect Omega.
Is it possible that the yellow toxin that knocked out Crosshair is the gas that contaminated the crashed ship on Kenari from Andor?
It's mentioned Hemlock was part of the Republic science division too.
We had some great ship content this episode; love Imperial era Gozantis, and Echo's transport ship is such a neat design that it was an instant favorite even before we saw details like the leech pod!
Emerie is an interesting character. As others have said, she seems like she's probably another clone. The accent, the skin tone, the eye colour, she's even the same height as the other adult clones. At this point, I would be astonished if she's _not_ a clone. Very interested to see where they go with this.
Regarding rampart and hemlock, you could say that you have to look beneath the surface to truly understand someone or something.
Go back to the end of the episode when cross hair has been re-captured and is asked about omega look at his face when he turns to look at the officer. Also look at Omega's face when she finds out that it was crosshair who sent the message to them. 😭
For a while there, I thought the other clones with Echo and Gregor were from the 41st Elite with their green tinted visors.
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer or others didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet at least crosshairs did kill the human troopers ah I mean tk troopers
I hope we get another season of Bad Batch. It's so damn good!
Yeah, I’m just not gonna be able to handle this season’s finale, am I?
People like Hemlock is why the republic doesn’t want Pershing continuing his research.
Tantiss and Hemlock's offer has definite vibes of 'The Prisoner' (Patrick McGoohan) and the Village. This summit, on the other hand, stinks of the Nazi Wannsee Conference - the one which set up the 'Final Solution'. Don't know if he'll survive, but I can imagine Cid having to deal with Crosshair.
It was unsettling to see an Imperial Officer use the shock tooth this early in the timeline. It made sense for a "blank" clone assassin, and in the Mandalorian when only the most fanatically loyal Imperials are still fighting, but to see that kind of behavior in someone that was presumably fighting for the Republic so recently was scary.
I fully expect next week’s title to be a double meaning. Both as a meeting, and as the top of a mountain
What if the "The Summit" is a nod to the Wannsee Conference that the Nazi's held to discuss the implementation of the Final Solution except in this case it is the to discuss the extermination of the clones thus leading to Operation 99. Op 99 can go either way. An Empire operation to end the clones or Clone Force operation to save the clones once they find out about the Empires plan. Setting up Season 3.
It was so awesome
I think you should add background music to your videos, usually that intrigues people more, just a tip :P
Its cool that this epsiode is the same name as a clone wars episode
With 80 of Houzer's men joining him makes me wonder what is the percentage of clones by TBB S2 E14 have left the empire and then how many are fighting against it.
8*
Let’s not forget 6 of those 8 are dead
That ship looks very similar to the one the freemakers use later. ;)
Ah a fellow free makers fan;).
"I'm not doing this because I want to beat someone, or because I hate someone, or because, because I want to blame someone. It's not because it's fun and God knows it's not because it's easy. It's not even because it works, because it hardly ever does. I do what I do, because it's right!" The 12th Doctor 😁
I think Emory was already on Crosshair's side. She was the one that let Crosshair out of his restraints. He would not have been able to get the jump on the TKs otherwise. Either she is very incompetent, which seems unlikely, or she wanted him to get that message out.
So awesome!
May the force be with you
I don’t see that Gregor or howzer or others didn’t remove there poison chip yet and wofflee didn’t appear yet and not even sinker or boost and I hate echo still doesn’t want to kill human troopers ah I mean stormtrooper yet at least crosshairs did kill the human troopers ah I mean tk troopers
I finally figured out where I’ve heard the doctor’s voice before. Star Wars: The Old Republic. He plays almost the same character, an evil doctor doing disturbing experiments with an unnerving voice and perspective on life.
I’ll say it, I like Bad Batch more than Mandalorian
I like how he said doctor ball instead of torture droid 😂
Nah crosshairs doesn’t miss anyway, the part you shown of him missing was to distract the tk troopers so they would face him giving him easier kills
I wonder if plan 88 has anything to do with the contingency orders, order 88 maybe has something to do with the clone army and that might be their personal plan for when that happens.
They mentioned the mission where they came up with the plan, which was a escape plan because they were being hunted. So it was Crosshair quickly telling them they need to run.
Idk about anyone else but I definitely think that this was the 4th time in a row where the bad batch episode has been better than the Mando season 3 episode that came out the same day
Amazing episode.
Why did Rex and Echo use stun on Imperial stormtroopers, and not just the clones?
My headcanon is that they still are in shock over Order 66, and still grappling with the fact that they were pawns in Palpatine’s game.
The TK troopers are no different than them and are basically untrained grunts from across the galaxy, so it makes sense to me that they wouldn’t use lethal force when they have the chance.
Regardless, we know that this mentality wears off eventually because Rex and the clones have no qualms downing Stormtroopers in rebels.
Yeah there suppose to kill the human recruits and I don’t see that Gregor or howzer or even others didn’t remove there poison chips yet
It takes time to swap from stun to kill. So they stun all just in case there's a clone
Oh, the Empire would never let Howzer's hair look bad. Whatever he needs to maintain it, he'll get.
This was a great episode and I am excited for the 2 part finale!