I just read this… We’re excited to inform you that starting this week our removal handle antenna will be curved in our manufacturing facility prior to being delivered to your office. This will help the removal handle fit more discreetly in the patient's ear. So maybe they saw your review???
Great video, it really helped with my understanding of hearing aids in general and the Evolv in particular. This is the first time I've used a hearing aid and I am absolutely astounded at how much better I now hear. I got the Evolv AI IIC Non-wireless yesterday. I only have hearing loss in my left ear so only got one aid. I didn't think I needed a hearing aid but was I ever wrong. They are very comfortable and I don't really notice them, other than the incredible sound that I now hear. My ears seem to be balanced now and it feels like I even hear better in my other ear. The only issue I had after leaving the audiologist was feedback. I really noticed this when chewing gum. After getting home I tried removing and reinserting the aid and was able to eliminate the feedback. I found that it occurred when I had the aid inserted too deep in my ear. It's more comfortable at the deeper depth but I really don't like or want the feedback. I'll speak with my audiologist on Monday to see if an adjustment can be made. Unfortunately the IIC do not have wireless capabilities. It would be nice to have the features of the wireless models but since they were free through the Veterans Administration I won't complain. It is GREAT to hear again.
THANKYOU this is the first useful resource I've been able to find on the Starkey Evolv AI lineup. There's so much marketing stuff out there for each product, but there's nothing that actually compares them side by side like this video does. I'm so glad I watched it because I was seriously considering the CIC with wireless because it seemed like it ticked all the boxes, but those antennas are ridiculous! Who'd wanna wear those?
got Evolv Al , BTE and they are awesome!!! the sound is great And so Natural.. I play the piano and the sound is out standing.. Very comfortable .. I have no complaints .. Ill probably never use all the Technologie .. They are by far the best hearing aids I've had...
Which one did you get? I’m thinking about getting the evolv ai 1,200, I was recommended the livio 1,200 btw. So I guess the evolv 1,200 will do a good job.
I just received my first pair of hearing aids from the VA on Friday. I have the Starkey Evolv AI 2400 cic. I couldn’t get rechargeable due to my ear canals being so narrow. So far I’m getting used to them. The Bluetooth was a problem as the left one would not connect. If I like them I have to have the VA send the left one back to get repaired. After having hearing loss and being vain for a number of years I finally did a consult. It is quite a difference and wish I had done it sooner.
I just got the Evolv AI 2400 (battery). I have never worn hearing aids. I AM ALREADY IN LOVE! I am not having any Bluetooth issues mentioned so far. I hear really well and natural. I love that it streams my iPhone. I likely will not use some features but definitely like using to stream my phone calls. I think I made the right choice. Your reviews are always very helpful.
I'm currently trialling the Evolv AI 1600 and was so pleased that you explained edge mode in good detail. I had no idea what this was all about but you made it very clear to understand. Many thanks.
Thanks Dr Cliff! I just got my first device. I'm doing a demo of the rechargeable . Lots of great info and LOTS more than the audiologist gave me which next to ZERO! I'm seeing another one on Fri
Thank you for your detailed summary. in particular for your comments around 14mins in that you do not find any of the new attributes of the Evolve series convincingly better than the high end Livio range. As the Livio Edge can be bought with a 30% reduction prior to theEvolve series coming on the UK market seems you have saved me ca $1000. Thanks
I have a Starkey Soundlens IIC, I love it, so easy and they made my antenna shorter, you can't even see it and it's still easy to remove, so just wanted to say they will shorten them for you
I have been using these Evolv AI now for two months. At the 2400 level my hearing care professional was able to adjust them so that the sound is incredibly natural compared to previous hearing aids over the past 16 years. The rechargeable option is well designed. I am still confused about how and when to double tap to use Edge mode. I enjoy my Home Theater AV system and find that speech over background music challenging. Sometimes Edge helps sometimes it seems to make no difference or even worse.
@@bettercallkiddtw Now almost one year, I am still extremely satisfied. Edge mode is still a bit of a mystery. I have found it most useful in noisy restaurants. I will tap one of my aids forcefully, I hear the bright ringing sound that acknowledges the shift to Edge mode and then over the next five minutes, I get the impression that I am hearing the spoken conversation of my dining companions much more clearly. My only negative experience is that over many months, fine dust particles from the hair over my ears began to interfere with the function of the microphones. It was resolved by using a fine brush over the microphone mechanism after exposing the small plastic shields and then verifying the fix by running the self check routine on the app on my cell phone. You may remind your clients of this possibility on follow up visits to save both of you some time.
@@kerry00, same question!! 🤔 Somebody talk me that Starkey don't connect with laptot or computer. Because they need to use bluetooth clasic (HFP and A2DP). Ésto lo tiene Phonack. And somebody toll me that I need to buy a microphone mic+( cost hundreds dollars)
Please help me choose, if I have to choose between the livio ai 2400 ric and the evolv ai 1200 ric, which one is better because the 2400 is livio, but the 1200 is evolv ai?? Which should I choose and why.
Dr Cliff I have the Levio 2400 AI aids. and I just got the new EVOLV aids but returned one and ordered a trensmitter so I will then be using the new aid as a BICROS. That siad I have been using a dedicated Starkey TV streamer for two years it connects via a fiber optica cable. It works pretty well.
I just picked up a set of Evolv 2400 RIC R HAs from our new AuD. Both the HAs and the AuD are a significant improvement from where we had been getting service. The only disappointment with the Evolv is that there is no double tap to answer/hang up the phone. Starkey claim that this is on the drawing board, but they will also tell you that Audibel HAs are not locked. Dr. Cliff - do you know if Starkey are planning this as a firmware upgrade and if so, when? They seem to be missing the boat on this one. The mic can be switched between the HAs and phone for calls, but you have to handle the phone to initiate and hang up calls. I suppose I could use Siri to make the call, but I still have to hang it up. I appreciate your input.
Please help me choose, if I have to choose between the livio ai 2400 ric and the evolv ai 1200 ric, which one is better because the 2400 is livio, but the 1200 is evolv ai?? Which should I choose and why.
Spot on for the Bluetooth capability. It is just so-so, and music from a smartphone isn't all that clear. I received my pair in July from the VA, and will be swapping out with the Starkey non-bluetooth CIC version. Is the non-BT version smaller?
The one thing I wanted to see the most was the charging station to make a decision on someone with low vision but the transcript is showing over the charger in every part of the video, on future videos can you hold the parts higher ? To get above the words. Thank you ! 😊
100% agree... I'm THE target market for a CIC with wireless connectivity...have been eagerly awaiting this...but the alien antennas are a deal breaker...if they could just find a way to design so that the antenna reliably hides within the concha I would be all over this. Instead, I'm regrettably looking at larger 'wearable' style wireless options, and Starkey would be a strong contender there too if they didn't have gold charging contacts on the outside. I've been wearing Starkey aids for 15+ years and generally very happy with them, but their latest offerings are just too much of a swing and a miss, I feel like they're forcing me to go out look for better alternatives from their competitors.
I feel I need to share my story about Starkey... I am 57 and have had Starkey aids for about the last 40 odd years... Always been brilliant for me hence sticking with them... However, my last aid packed up so wanted to get it repaired, and get a Evolv 312 made...non rechargeable, as a recharge hearing aid fills me with horror! So, Starkey made a aid smaller than requested by my audiologist, Starkey jump the gun without discussing it with my audiologist, and him with me... I always need a vent as I have small ear canals, despite the aid having a vent, I felt a total airblock... We tried for next size up, same problem... That's when I noticed looking at the vent and speaker of the new aids, they were swapped round compared to my older Starkey aids I have in my possession... Also Starkey no longer refurbish any aids older then 5 years old... My audiologist told me out of all the aid manufacters, Starkey is giving him the most problems with unsatisfied customers! So, end of four plus decades of me wearing Starkey... Now have a Phonak aid and it's been brilliant so far! If Starkey had not changed the default positioning of the vent and speaker, I would probably still be wearing Starkey...
As a retired Electronics Engineer, It has been my experience that any device that provide a large number of outputs seldom produces an outstanding single product. Our car now has a computer capable of several things that I don't want or need. However, I must exercise care to avoid the paths that take me where I really want to go. "Oh!! to get that function you must follow the following sequence". I have also a VFD that I use on my vertical mill to convert single phase power to three phase power. It also allows me to change the machine speed. However the "Quick Start manual was some 287 pages and never provided the info that I needed to just START the mill. It took a phone call and listening to apologies about the quality of the manual. Needless to say, I'm gun shy of hearing aids that perform functions other than just improving my hearing.
Why do you give such a strong recommendation for ear molds? I have profound hearing loss in high frequencies and mild in low frequencies. I had an audiologist tell me that domes are better because they are more flexible to conform to movement and they have less problems.
During a long 12-hour flight, can I leave my hearing aids in my hand luggage within the charger? Or should I switch them off to store them outside the charger?
I've had my Evolv AI 2400 RIC aids now for 6 months and I'm not impressed. I had them fitted by one of Dr Cliff's recommended providers. My wife still remarks that I can't hear her most of the time. I have to take them out when I exercise outdoors because of the excessive wind noise. The scratching sound from my hair and glasses is constantly annoying. I struggle to hear servers in restaurants. Etc, etc. I spared no expense, wanting the best hearing improvement I could get. But if this is the best you can get for more than $5K then this seems like a scam.
Why on earth does Starkey not explain all the features and adjustments to their aids on their website? You've done a much better job detailing the features like edge, etc. My audiologist is good about showing me exactly what she's tweaking on a large monitor, but my goodness, it's a lot to digest at once.
Bluetooth does not switch between devices and some times one ear is on my phone and the other ear on mu iPad. Have spent hours on with Starkey support to no avail.
Great video! I learned more about my Evolv Ai hearingdevices in your video than I did from my own provider! Do you all offer classes on how to use some of the other features for those in the Phoenix area?
Thanks Dr Cliff for the detailed review! If Starkey IIC lacks the enormous amount of features based on wireless connectivity, how does it compare to other brands like, phonak virto m-titanium iic?
Update. Turned in my Starkey Evolv AI bluetooth aids. Will be receiving Starkey Picasso CIC aids (non-bluetooth) aids. Is there any video on this model? I realize the Picasso is the model 2 generations prior to Evolv AI.
I just got a new aid (4th one, second Starkey). They're listed as Audibel RIC 2400 Ai, which are essentially Starkey Evolve Ai 2400, correct? I have a severe loss in my right ear and use a custom mold. My left ear is so bad, an aid doesn't help. I want my settings all ON the aid and not tied to a poorly reviewed thrive app. Previous Starkey aid had the two buttons. Short press changed the volume and long press changed the 4 custom settings. If I heard my audiologist correctly, that should be the same for my new aid. (I use live transcribe when my aid is out so I can read what my audiologist is saying, live transcribe works great and on an older than dirt smartphone no less) My smartphone wasn't compatible with the Thrive app. So, I doubt I will upgrade to a higher end smartphone when the aid itself is so expensive. Guessing my audiologist did not set my aid up correctly. This is all frustrating when the aid is so complex. She was rushed that day and didn't take the time. I have been seeing the same audiologist for 20+ years. I am going back tomorrow as I am not getting any setting but the normal setting, which I hear when I tap to get the edge feature. Tap again and it says normal. Something isn't right. On the plus side, I barely know I am wearing an aid as I've finally gone tubeless, as my sister (genetic hearing loss in my family ) recommended . The aid and custom mold fits so well and I can tuck that little antenna in my ear.
This is a very very very detailed review video I like it 😁 it's nice to see Starkey implement edge AI in most of the evolve ai hearing aids nice video as always 😁 I also have to laugh at the antenna bit actually it kinda looks like you are an alien when you have those sticking out of your ears🤣
I really appreciate your excellent informational videos. I looked at Audibel Arc Ai 2400 hearing aid. They are a Starkey manufactured product. Is it equivalent to EvolveAi or LivioAi? Thanks
The RIC R has a thin tube and a part that fits into the ear. THe BTE R as the short clear tube. Is there more to the BTE model then what is in the picture?
On the CIC models those things sticking out you call antennas are there to pull the devices from your ear they are not antennas. I just cut the off and push the device out from behind my ear and the devices work fine without them. Oh I’ve been doing this for 30 years. Love your videos.
Please help me choose, if I have to choose between the livio ai 2400 ric and the evolv ai 1200 ric, which one is better because the 2400 is livio, but the 1200 is evolv ai?? Which should I choose and why.
I couldnt hear much of anything. I have tendinitis in both ears. This is the first hearing aid I can hear clearly. I highly recommend it. They did an ear mold and they fit perfectly.. cant tell they are there and they are very comfortable! The ones that went over my ears seem to always fall off ...my glasses would also take them of when I put them on. I have the Starkey evolv Al and love them!
Hello Dr Cliff, My brother have a hearing loss due to ototoxicity. He was diagnosed with severe infection and was suggested to take streptomycin antibiotics. Due to which he lost his hearing ability. Do you think Starkey hearing aid can help him? Or only way to bring his hearing ability back is with cochlear implant? Please help me i am lost and confused. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Hello Dr. Cliff, I bought the Audible Via Edge Ai according to my contract agreement and invoice. A year later I found out that I have the Via Ai instead of the Via Edge Ai. Not sure if you ever had this situation. What would you recommend for me to do? Thanks
I have hair that would camo the antennas of these IICs, but I also have narrow ear canals-without the loop anchor, these cuties would tend to slide right on out. So you're right (at least in my case), it would have been better to lengthen and curl the antenna.
Thrive App does not hold changes. Every time you change the program, say from normal to TV, you have to input your changes again. You can’t fine tune your hearing aids to your needs and environment and keep them. A huge downer.
I tried both “in ear canal” and behind the ear. I put “in canal” in quotes bc it extends well beyond my ear canal. That said, the buttons extend even beyond the extension and conflicted with phone use, which is integral to my job. The behind the ear competes for the minuscule real estate used by my mask and glasses. Both have worse Bluetooth than $80 earbuds. Extremely disappointed with starkey and their 6k price tag for suboptimal design and performance.
I have an appointment to go in for a test... I am doing research on what kind of hearing aid I would like. I constantly use wireless earbuds... some of the best ones... Bose, Jabra, Apple. I don't think I would be happy at all with what you described. I want a hearing aid that essentially acts like a good wireless earbud. Am I asking too much? Have you have any success? Thanks
@@BrianVallotton You will never find a HA to act like a music earbud, just simple because the receivers in the HA are different than those in an earbud. A HA has only one way while the earbuds have 1 or more ways. I wanted to add the HA circuit of my Starkey 3 series to an earbud, but I was explained by the tech guy that this is impossible. I am wearing Evolv AI 2K and the music can be listened with pleasure. All the above presentation of Dr Cliff is not quite accurate, rating lower features that are working very good, like the BT connection, etc. Good luck in your choices. P.S. I would ask for the computer interface programmer and the programming software. I have those for many years, and I can program the HA's by myself, and not losing time going to the audiologist or now with Evolvs to stay in many calls with the guys. That gave me independence. If you insist you will get it.
@@taniturcu9219 I am considering Evolv Ai aids. I am very interested in your comments about the computer interface programmer and the programming software. Did you ask your provider or Starkey directly; and was it a significant increase to the cost of the aids?
Starkey really needs to work on its connectivity. I had to get the (inferior IMO) Audéo Paradise because the Livios wouldn't connect to my Android OnePlus phone. Who wants to swap hearing aids and earbuds every time you want to stream from your phone???
I’ve been fitted for the Signia Insio C&G 5AX ITC and will pick up next week for a 30 day trial. After researching (your video review mainly) and several years with cheaper aids I’m ready to take the plunge. Based on your Starkey review above for similar model (Evolv AI ITC 2000 or 1600?), how would you rate Signia vs Starkey. As far as the Starkey app, I would never use the ‘Wellness’ functions as I’m fully immersed in the Apple eco system. Regarding the phone apps, seems none ever get great reviews (not sure why?). Anyway, love your videos and reviews. Look forward to your thoughts on above question. 🙏
I have yet to directly review the Insio C&C AX so I wouldn't be able to provide much insight. In general, I would say that the way the provider programs each device will have a larger impact than the device itself. That said, find the best provider possible that follows Best Practices and you'd probably be happy with either one.
Why no address to contact Starkey? I have one of your hearing aids that need a battery replacement and would like an address to send the hearing aid to for battery replacement. I don't need to make appointments with high power salesmen I just need a battery replacement. Why is Starkey hiding their address?
Then the very very expensive hearing aids will stay on the shelf. ALL THE HLL I NEED IS BATTERY REPLACEMENT NOT TALKING TO A HIGH POWERE SALSEMAN. @@DrCliffAuD
I don’t like the rechargeable box. Because if you have it on Bluetooth listening to your music, videos, using your gps, talking on your phone etc etc the battery does not last all day. It drains the battery for whatever you may be doing throughout the day / night and you may find yourself re charging it more than once a day. And if you are a person who likes to sleep with them in at night. Rechargeable is not the best bet for you.
Thank you for the review. It was very helpful! My mother has Evolv AI 2000 rechargeable hearing aids. Are you saying we cannot get a TV streamer for them? She is 91 and does not use a cell phone so she won't have the Thrive App. We were planning to get a streamer for her.
Lithion Ion Batteries eventually wear out. The faster you charge them, the life of the battery is decreased. If you can't replace the internal lithiom ion battery, you''ll eventually be buying yet another set. Will the battery in these out-live the life of the hearing aids?
Picked up Evolv AI Micro Ric 2400 (Battery) on 3/17/22 and Bluetooth/Streaming has been a DISASTER! Consistent with Dr. Cliff's remarks about Starkey's very poor Bluetooth performance, streaming is totally unreliable, in one ear, then the other, echo-y, static-y, boomy on phone calls, and the Thrive App freezes and needs to be reinstalled at least once a day!! I have an iPhone 12 and all this bad performance is before AND after installation of the latest iOS update 15.4. Starkey Technical Support staff have been kind and cordial, but have no answers. By comparison, my Oticon Opn 1s perform flawlessly on the same phone with Bluetooth. Bottom line is I will be returning the Starkey's and am considering Phonak P-90s as a replacement but open to your suggestions.
Greetings. I just switched to Starkey Evolv 2400 RIC R in 2021 before I changed to Medicare this year. I go to an audiologist who also fit me for my first set of aids in 2016, Lynx Quattro by Resound. I just get the impression the Starkey line is being hyped and wonder if providers get a bonus or some kind of incentive for pushing this line? The features thru the app I could care less about. Like a Bad copy of a Fitbit. My wellness score doesn’t match up because I didn’t have enough social interaction? Bad patient! Anyway, on one of the sites you recommend they felt the best aid if 2022 if the Phonak P70. I want to try it and see. Thoughts?. Thanks so much.
The only incentive is lower Cost of Good pricing for some providers who sell certain products. This is not isolated to Starkey dealers. IN terms of the best hearing aids, the P70s are not even the best hearing aid in the Paradise lineup. That would be the P90's. However, there is no such thing as the "best" hearing aid because everyone's wants and needs are different.
I have them and Hate Them, I have never seen hearing aid that you need to manually connect the TV streamer to the hearing aids any time the sound is paused for any reason!
@@DrCliffAuD I just got prescribed my first hearing aids, and she gave me an over the ear device. So I'm thinking of trying out an in the ear device. I have minimal hearing loss but work in a very noisy environment. I'm trying out the Starkey Livio and it sounds terrible.
@@DrCliffAuD that's a good question, my next appt is in two weeks so I'll have to see what we can do to get me hearing better. Thank you for your videos, been watching them for two days every chance I get!
I was given a pair of the 2400 series hearing aids from my father and haven't been fitted yet with my hearing professional I'm just curious as to the maintenance routine for the hearing aids? The battery changing I've got down pretty good I just not quite sure about the other pieces that can be changed out as needed to keep the device and optimum working order such as the ear cushion which fits in the canal and a couple of pieces that came with them I'm not sure and my father couldn't tell me.. do you have a video on this information?
Thanks, Dr. Cliff...btw...I asked you a couple questions via comments after viewing your video "How to get better quality music"; 10/12/21. (I'm a subscriber, but somehow missed that one until today.) Would really appreciate your response! With the help of your videos, I regained my high-frequency hearing nearly two and a half years ago and once again I can enjoy listening to music. And, after watching your video on music quality, I am wondering if there is more I can do to improve the sound quality. Thanks!
@@DrCliffAuD Thank you again...here it is... I hope you can answer a question for me. I occasionally stream from my phone or tablet, but, as a musician/audiophile, more than 90% of music listening is from my rather high-end stereo (i.e., $5000 speakers) system. I have Phonak Marvel aids and my question is: Does all the info you provided in this video apply only to streaming, or does it apply equally to 'open-ear' listening (music coming from speakers)? I am using vented domes; is this a factor for bass response and if so, would unvented domes provide better bass response? Thank you very much for any answers you may give; kindly make any other suggestion(s) for attaining the best sound from my stereo system. BTW...HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
I have moderate hearing loss and tinnitus and have had the Livio2400Ai for 2.5 yrs- so, one question is, should I trade up with each new model brought to market, “like trading cars”, or wait until my model is obsolete, then get hit with a large purchase price?
Dr Cliff, another fantastic and highly useful review! One question please: I am interested in either a Starkey Evolv IIC (NW) or Phonak M-Titanium. Are you able to recommend which one I should go for? Or even what I should consider when making my choice between these two custom invisible hearing aids please?
The top priority for either one is....how good is the hearing care professional who is fitting the devices? Go with the better provider. They are both very good hearing aids.
I just read this…
We’re excited to inform you that starting this week our removal handle antenna will be curved in our manufacturing facility prior to being delivered to your office. This will help the removal handle fit more discreetly in the patient's ear. So maybe they saw your review???
Great video, it really helped with my understanding of hearing aids in general and the Evolv in particular. This is the first time I've used a hearing aid and I am absolutely astounded at how much better I now hear. I got the Evolv AI IIC Non-wireless yesterday. I only have hearing loss in my left ear so only got one aid. I didn't think I needed a hearing aid but was I ever wrong. They are very comfortable and I don't really notice them, other than the incredible sound that I now hear. My ears seem to be balanced now and it feels like I even hear better in my other ear. The only issue I had after leaving the audiologist was feedback. I really noticed this when chewing gum. After getting home I tried removing and reinserting the aid and was able to eliminate the feedback. I found that it occurred when I had the aid inserted too deep in my ear. It's more comfortable at the deeper depth but I really don't like or want the feedback. I'll speak with my audiologist on Monday to see if an adjustment can be made. Unfortunately the IIC do not have wireless capabilities. It would be nice to have the features of the wireless models but since they were free through the Veterans Administration I won't complain. It is GREAT to hear again.
THANKYOU this is the first useful resource I've been able to find on the Starkey Evolv AI lineup. There's so much marketing stuff out there for each product, but there's nothing that actually compares them side by side like this video does. I'm so glad I watched it because I was seriously considering the CIC with wireless because it seemed like it ticked all the boxes, but those antennas are ridiculous! Who'd wanna wear those?
got Evolv Al , BTE and they are awesome!!! the sound is great And so Natural.. I play the piano and the sound is out standing.. Very comfortable .. I have no complaints .. Ill probably never use all the Technologie .. They are by far the best hearing aids I've had...
Which one did you get? I’m thinking about getting the evolv ai 1,200, I was recommended the livio 1,200 btw. So I guess the evolv 1,200 will do a good job.
Which are yours? Between 1200-2400?
@@kelvincastro9992what model did you wear
I just received my first pair of hearing aids from the VA on Friday. I have the Starkey Evolv AI 2400 cic. I couldn’t get rechargeable due to my ear canals being so narrow. So far I’m getting used to them. The Bluetooth was a problem as the left one would not connect. If I like them I have to have the VA send the left one back to get repaired. After having hearing loss and being vain for a number of years I finally did a consult. It is quite a difference and wish I had done it sooner.
I have a three month trial to see how they are going to work for me, I'm excited😊
I just got the Evolv AI 2400 (battery). I have never worn hearing aids. I AM ALREADY IN LOVE! I am not having any Bluetooth issues mentioned so far. I hear really well and natural. I love that it streams my iPhone. I likely will not use some features but definitely like using to stream my phone calls. I think I made the right choice. Your reviews are always very helpful.
I’m hands free with my I was washing dishes and listening to your videos ❤.
I'm currently trialling the Evolv AI 1600 and was so pleased that you explained edge mode in good detail. I had no idea what this was all about but you made it very clear to understand. Many thanks.
Edge mode is crap.
Thanks Dr Cliff! I just got my first device. I'm doing a demo of the rechargeable . Lots of great info and LOTS more than the audiologist gave me which next to ZERO! I'm seeing another one on Fri
I threw mine away and bought Siemens, you will regret buying those
@@joewilley7776 I ended up getting Signas. Very happy w them
Ill definitely look up. @@joewilley7776
I have the livio edge and my hearing aid doctor said these aren’t much of a difference. But compared to what I used to have they were a huge upgrade
Thank you for your detailed summary. in particular for your comments around 14mins in that you do not find any of the new attributes of the Evolve series convincingly better than the high end Livio range. As the Livio Edge can be bought with a 30% reduction prior to theEvolve series coming on the UK market seems you have saved me ca $1000. Thanks
I have a Starkey Soundlens IIC, I love it, so easy and they made my antenna shorter, you can't even see it and it's still easy to remove, so just wanted to say they will shorten them for you
They did the same for mine. Idk why people in the comments are bitchin n moanin about the antennas… all you have to do is ask them to shorten it.
I have low frequency hearing loss and between oticon and these, these are my favorite BTE Ric R 1600 with an open dome.
I have been using these Evolv AI now for two months. At the 2400 level my hearing care professional was able to adjust them so that the sound is incredibly natural compared to previous hearing aids over the past 16 years. The rechargeable option is well designed. I am still confused about how and when to double tap to use Edge mode. I enjoy my Home Theater AV system and find that speech over background music challenging. Sometimes Edge helps sometimes it seems to make no difference or even worse.
Thanks for sharing your experience! I am a hearing care professional in Taiwan, and going to fit my paitient with these Evolv AI.
@@bettercallkiddtw Now almost one year, I am still extremely satisfied. Edge mode is still a bit of a mystery. I have found it most useful in noisy restaurants. I will tap one of my aids forcefully, I hear the bright ringing sound that acknowledges the shift to Edge mode and then over the next five minutes, I get the impression that I am hearing the spoken conversation of my dining companions much more clearly. My only negative experience is that over many months, fine dust particles from the hair over my ears began to interfere with the function of the microphones. It was resolved by using a fine brush over the microphone mechanism after exposing the small plastic shields and then verifying the fix by running the self check routine on the app on my cell phone. You may remind your clients of this possibility on follow up visits to save both of you some time.
@@pauldestefano8469 Hi Paul, have you found a way to pair your hearing aids with a laptop to watch movies or TH-cam?
@@kerry00, same question!! 🤔
Somebody talk me that Starkey don't connect with laptot or computer.
Because they need to use bluetooth clasic (HFP and A2DP). Ésto lo tiene Phonack.
And somebody toll me that I need to buy a microphone mic+( cost hundreds dollars)
Please help me choose, if I have to choose between the livio ai 2400 ric and the evolv ai 1200 ric, which one is better because the 2400 is livio, but the 1200 is evolv ai?? Which should I choose and why.
Dr Cliff I have the Levio 2400 AI aids. and I just got the new EVOLV aids but returned one and ordered a trensmitter so I will then be using the new aid as a BICROS. That siad I have been using a dedicated Starkey TV streamer for two years it connects via a fiber optica cable. It works pretty well.
I just picked up a set of Evolv 2400 RIC R HAs from our new AuD. Both the HAs and the AuD are a significant improvement from where we had been getting service. The only disappointment with the Evolv is that there is no double tap to answer/hang up the phone. Starkey claim that this is on the drawing board, but they will also tell you that Audibel HAs are not locked. Dr. Cliff - do you know if Starkey are planning this as a firmware upgrade and if so, when? They seem to be missing the boat on this one. The mic can be switched between the HAs and phone for calls, but you have to handle the phone to initiate and hang up calls. I suppose I could use Siri to make the call, but I still have to hang it up. I appreciate your input.
How much was it to Ugandan shillings
Please help me choose, if I have to choose between the livio ai 2400 ric and the evolv ai 1200 ric, which one is better because the 2400 is livio, but the 1200 is evolv ai?? Which should I choose and why.
Spot on for the Bluetooth capability. It is just so-so, and music from a smartphone isn't all that clear.
I received my pair in July from the VA, and will be swapping out with the Starkey non-bluetooth CIC version. Is the non-BT version smaller?
The one thing I wanted to see the most was the charging station to make a decision on someone with low vision but the transcript is showing over the charger in every part of the video, on future videos can you hold the parts higher ? To get above the words. Thank you ! 😊
Thanks for the vid!! I think the newer CIC have a curled Bluetooth antenna.
100% agree... I'm THE target market for a CIC with wireless connectivity...have been eagerly awaiting this...but the alien antennas are a deal breaker...if they could just find a way to design so that the antenna reliably hides within the concha I would be all over this. Instead, I'm regrettably looking at larger 'wearable' style wireless options, and Starkey would be a strong contender there too if they didn't have gold charging contacts on the outside. I've been wearing Starkey aids for 15+ years and generally very happy with them, but their latest offerings are just too much of a swing and a miss, I feel like they're forcing me to go out look for better alternatives from their competitors.
Wonderful and informative presentation. Thank you so very much !
I feel I need to share my story about Starkey...
I am 57 and have had Starkey aids for about the last 40 odd years...
Always been brilliant for me hence sticking with them...
However, my last aid packed up so wanted to get it repaired, and get a Evolv 312 made...non rechargeable, as a recharge hearing aid fills me with horror!
So, Starkey made a aid smaller than requested by my audiologist, Starkey jump the gun without discussing it with my audiologist, and him with me...
I always need a vent as I have small ear canals, despite the aid having a vent, I felt a total airblock...
We tried for next size up, same problem...
That's when I noticed looking at the vent and speaker of the new aids, they were swapped round compared to my older Starkey aids I have in my possession...
Also Starkey no longer refurbish any aids older then 5 years old...
My audiologist told me out of all the aid manufacters, Starkey is giving him the most problems with unsatisfied customers!
So, end of four plus decades of me wearing Starkey...
Now have a Phonak aid and it's been brilliant so far!
If Starkey had not changed the default positioning of the vent and speaker, I would probably still be wearing Starkey...
As a retired Electronics Engineer, It has been my experience that any device that provide a large number of outputs seldom produces an outstanding single product. Our car now has a computer capable of several things that I don't want or need. However, I must exercise care to avoid the paths that take me where I really want to go. "Oh!! to get that function you must follow the following sequence". I have also a VFD that I use on my vertical mill to convert single phase power to three phase power. It also allows me to change the machine speed. However the "Quick Start manual was some 287 pages and never provided the info that I needed to just START the mill. It took a phone call and listening to apologies about the quality of the manual. Needless to say, I'm gun shy of hearing aids that perform functions other than just improving my hearing.
Very detailed but really interesting, Cliff. 🤩
Why do you give such a strong recommendation for ear molds? I have profound hearing loss in high frequencies and mild in low frequencies. I had an audiologist tell me that domes are better because they are more flexible to conform to movement and they have less problems.
During a long 12-hour flight, can I leave my hearing aids in my hand luggage within the charger? Or should I switch them off to store them outside the charger?
I've had my Evolv AI 2400 RIC aids now for 6 months and I'm not impressed. I had them fitted by one of Dr Cliff's recommended providers. My wife still remarks that I can't hear her most of the time. I have to take them out when I exercise outdoors because of the excessive wind noise. The scratching sound from my hair and glasses is constantly annoying. I struggle to hear servers in restaurants. Etc, etc. I spared no expense, wanting the best hearing improvement I could get. But if this is the best you can get for more than $5K then this seems like a scam.
Why on earth does Starkey not explain all the features and adjustments to their aids on their website? You've done a much better job detailing the features like edge, etc. My audiologist is good about showing me exactly what she's tweaking on a large monitor, but my goodness, it's a lot to digest at once.
Thank you for the detailed💕👍🏻👏🏼
Please would you do a video on all hearing aids that have the hearing loss rang of the ReSound Enzo 3d 88's? Thank you.
So, can you do setup on the app, or do you need to have a professional set it up for you?
Bluetooth does not switch between devices and some times one ear is on my phone and the other ear on mu iPad. Have spent hours on with Starkey support to no avail.
Great video! I learned more about my Evolv Ai hearingdevices in your video than I did from my own provider! Do you all offer classes on how to use some of the other features for those in the Phoenix area?
Thank you for your video.
Did evolve AI basic version also has Bluetooth option?
I hardly hear any difference between edge mode on and off, now if it would use voice isolation, then we would surely hear a huge difference.
Ty for a honest review 👍
My pleasure 😊
Thanks Dr Cliff for the detailed review! If Starkey IIC lacks the enormous amount of features based on wireless connectivity, how does it compare to other brands like, phonak virto m-titanium iic?
It is very similar to other IIC brands in my opinion.
Update. Turned in my Starkey Evolv AI bluetooth aids. Will be receiving Starkey Picasso CIC aids (non-bluetooth) aids. Is there any video on this model? I realize the Picasso is the model 2 generations prior to Evolv AI.
I just got a new aid (4th one, second Starkey). They're listed as Audibel RIC 2400 Ai, which are essentially Starkey Evolve Ai 2400, correct? I have a severe loss in my right ear and use a custom mold. My left ear is so bad, an aid doesn't help. I want my settings all ON the aid and not tied to a poorly reviewed thrive app. Previous Starkey aid had the two buttons. Short press changed the volume and long press changed the 4 custom settings. If I heard my audiologist correctly, that should be the same for my new aid. (I use live transcribe when my aid is out so I can read what my audiologist is saying, live transcribe works great and on an older than dirt smartphone no less)
My smartphone wasn't compatible with the Thrive app. So, I doubt I will upgrade to a higher end smartphone when the aid itself is so expensive. Guessing my audiologist did not set my aid up correctly. This is all frustrating when the aid is so complex. She was rushed that day and didn't take the time. I have been seeing the same audiologist for 20+ years. I am going back tomorrow as I am not getting any setting but the normal setting, which I hear when I tap to get the edge feature. Tap again and it says normal. Something isn't right. On the plus side, I barely know I am wearing an aid as I've finally gone tubeless, as my sister (genetic hearing loss in my family ) recommended . The aid and custom mold fits so well and I can tuck that little antenna in my ear.
This is a very very very detailed review video I like it 😁 it's nice to see Starkey implement edge AI in most of the evolve ai hearing aids nice video as always 😁 I also have to laugh at the antenna bit actually it kinda looks like you are an alien when you have those sticking out of your ears🤣
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I really appreciate your excellent informational videos. I looked at Audibel Arc Ai 2400 hearing aid. They are a Starkey manufactured product. Is it equivalent to EvolveAi or LivioAi? Thanks
Starkey has truely amazed me it's only the beginning of 2022 and they've already released another evolved pair of hearing aids lovely 😁
The RIC R has a thin tube and a part that fits into the ear. THe BTE R as the short clear tube. Is there more to the BTE model then what is in the picture?
Thank you for the video! Does the IIC style have access to all the features you mentioned in the thrive App?
No, it is non-wireless
On the CIC models those things sticking out you call antennas are there to pull the devices from your ear they are not antennas. I just cut the off and push the device out from behind my ear and the devices work fine without them. Oh I’ve been doing this for 30 years. Love your videos.
I have the vivio Ali now, not worth upgrading?
Please help me choose, if I have to choose between the livio ai 2400 ric and the evolv ai 1200 ric, which one is better because the 2400 is livio, but the 1200 is evolv ai?? Which should I choose and why.
😂trying yo talk to Aliens. Had me laughing. 😂
I am a singer and have single sided deafness and the other ear a moderate loss. What is a good hearing aid for singing? I currently have a Livio 1200.
I have mine, I connected to my phone with Bluetooth but can't use them for headphones or calls
I have these hearing aids which headset for work is compatible w these hearing aids?
Does this Starkey new hearing aids Evolv Ai CiC fitting for those with severe hearing loss level?
What is telly coil?
I couldnt hear much of anything. I have tendinitis in both ears. This is the first hearing aid I can hear clearly. I highly recommend it. They did an ear mold and they fit perfectly.. cant tell they are there and they are very comfortable! The ones that went over my ears seem to always fall off ...my glasses would also take them of when I put them on. I have the Starkey evolv Al and love them!
Hello Dr Cliff,
My brother have a hearing loss due to ototoxicity. He was diagnosed with severe infection and was suggested to take streptomycin antibiotics. Due to which he lost his hearing ability. Do you think Starkey hearing aid can help him? Or only way to bring his hearing ability back is with cochlear implant?
Please help me i am lost and confused. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Hello Dr. Cliff,
I bought the Audible Via Edge Ai according to my contract agreement and invoice. A year later I found out that I have the Via Ai instead of the Via Edge Ai. Not sure if you ever had this situation. What would you recommend for me to do? Thanks
I have hair that would camo the antennas of these IICs, but I also have narrow ear canals-without the loop anchor, these cuties would tend to slide right on out. So you're right (at least in my case), it would have been better to lengthen and curl the antenna.
Thanks
Thrive App does not hold changes. Every time you change the program, say from normal to TV, you have to input your changes again. You can’t fine tune your hearing aids to your needs and environment and keep them. A huge downer.
i get my voice back into my ears with the evolv a1 2400 is there a fix?
How can i have one..thank you so much
Are Starkey Evolv hearing aids waterproof?
I tried both “in ear canal” and behind the ear. I put “in canal” in quotes bc it extends well beyond my ear canal. That said, the buttons extend even beyond the extension and conflicted with phone use, which is integral to my job. The behind the ear competes for the minuscule real estate used by my mask and glasses. Both have worse Bluetooth than $80 earbuds. Extremely disappointed with starkey and their 6k price tag for suboptimal design and performance.
I have an appointment to go in for a test... I am doing research on what kind of hearing aid I would like. I constantly use wireless earbuds... some of the best ones... Bose, Jabra, Apple. I don't think I would be happy at all with what you described. I want a hearing aid that essentially acts like a good wireless earbud. Am I asking too much? Have you have any success? Thanks
@@BrianVallotton You will never find a HA to act like a music earbud, just simple because the receivers in the HA are different than those in an earbud. A HA has only one way while the earbuds have 1 or more ways. I wanted to add the HA circuit of my Starkey 3 series to an earbud, but I was explained by the tech guy that this is impossible. I am wearing Evolv AI 2K and the music can be listened with pleasure. All the above presentation of Dr Cliff is not quite accurate, rating lower features that are working very good, like the BT connection, etc. Good luck in your choices. P.S. I would ask for the computer interface programmer and the programming software. I have those for many years, and I can program the HA's by myself, and not losing time going to the audiologist or now with Evolvs to stay in many calls with the guys. That gave me independence. If you insist you will get it.
@@taniturcu9219 I am considering Evolv Ai aids. I am very interested in your comments about the computer interface programmer and the programming software. Did you ask your provider or Starkey directly; and was it a significant increase to the cost of the aids?
Starkey really needs to work on its connectivity. I had to get the (inferior IMO) Audéo Paradise because the Livios wouldn't connect to my Android OnePlus phone. Who wants to swap hearing aids and earbuds every time you want to stream from your phone???
I agree 100%
I’ve been fitted for the Signia Insio C&G 5AX ITC and will pick up next week for a 30 day trial. After researching (your video review mainly) and several years with cheaper aids I’m ready to take the plunge. Based on your Starkey review above for similar model (Evolv AI ITC 2000 or 1600?), how would you rate Signia vs Starkey. As far as the Starkey app, I would never use the ‘Wellness’ functions as I’m fully immersed in the Apple eco system. Regarding the phone apps, seems none ever get great reviews (not sure why?). Anyway, love your videos and reviews. Look forward to your thoughts on above question. 🙏
I have yet to directly review the Insio C&C AX so I wouldn't be able to provide much insight. In general, I would say that the way the provider programs each device will have a larger impact than the device itself. That said, find the best provider possible that follows Best Practices and you'd probably be happy with either one.
@@DrCliffAuD But doctor do you have any branch in Uganda
What's the price?
I just got this 2 weeks ago.
Why no address to contact Starkey? I have one of your hearing aids that need a battery replacement and would like an address to send the hearing aid to for battery replacement. I don't need to make appointments with high power salesmen I just need a battery replacement. Why is Starkey hiding their address?
You need to see a hearing care professional. Starkey will not work with you directly.
Then the very very expensive hearing aids will stay on the shelf. ALL THE HLL I NEED IS BATTERY REPLACEMENT NOT TALKING TO A HIGH POWERE SALSEMAN. @@DrCliffAuD
i wonder if this would be compatible with bone-anchored hearing systems.
Sorry, it is not.
I don’t like the rechargeable box. Because if you have it on Bluetooth listening to your music, videos, using your gps, talking on your phone etc etc the battery does not last all day. It drains the battery for whatever you may be doing throughout the day / night and you may find yourself re charging it more than once a day. And if you are a person who likes to sleep with them in at night. Rechargeable is not the best bet for you.
I was looking for more information on a specific model of the Evolv line. So this was too general.
How does Evolv AI compare to Oticon?
Thank you for the review. It was very helpful! My mother has Evolv AI 2000 rechargeable hearing aids. Are you saying we cannot get a TV streamer for them? She is 91 and does not use a cell phone so she won't have the Thrive App. We were planning to get a streamer for her.
It works with the old TV streamer if you can find one. Otherwise, you will need to use the table mic connected to the TV.
@@DrCliffAuD Thank you!
What about connecting to a cell phone to make and receive calls?
Yes, you can do that.
Starkey Evolv AI 2400 RIC how do I send audio from my a14 galaxy.
My same thoughts. I rewatched that part and he only mentioned I phone. We're out I guess
what is best for sports and sweating... i play quite a bit of pickleball
Lithion Ion Batteries eventually wear out. The faster you charge them, the life of the battery is decreased. If you can't replace the internal lithiom ion battery, you''ll eventually be buying yet another set. Will the battery in these out-live the life of the hearing aids?
Excellent. I notice no answer
This is the best video. Little antennas reaching out to aliens ahhahaha. Thanks for the heads up on why I won’t be getting these.
100% on those weird antenna. That just bummed me out
Picked up Evolv AI Micro Ric 2400 (Battery) on 3/17/22 and Bluetooth/Streaming has been a DISASTER! Consistent with Dr. Cliff's remarks about Starkey's very poor Bluetooth performance, streaming is totally unreliable, in one ear, then the other, echo-y, static-y, boomy on phone calls, and the Thrive App freezes and needs to be reinstalled at least once a day!! I have an iPhone 12 and all this bad performance is before AND after installation of the latest iOS update 15.4. Starkey Technical Support staff have been kind and cordial, but have no answers. By comparison, my Oticon Opn 1s perform flawlessly on the same phone with Bluetooth. Bottom line is I will be returning the Starkey's and am considering Phonak P-90s as a replacement but open to your suggestions.
Greetings. I just switched to Starkey Evolv 2400 RIC R in 2021 before I changed to Medicare this year. I go to an audiologist who also fit me for my first set of aids in 2016, Lynx Quattro by Resound. I just get the impression the Starkey line is being hyped and wonder if providers get a bonus or some kind of incentive for pushing this line? The features thru the app I could care less about. Like a Bad copy of a Fitbit. My wellness score doesn’t match up because I didn’t have enough social interaction? Bad patient! Anyway, on one of the sites you recommend they felt the best aid if 2022 if the Phonak P70. I want to try it and see. Thoughts?. Thanks so much.
The only incentive is lower Cost of Good pricing for some providers who sell certain products. This is not isolated to Starkey dealers. IN terms of the best hearing aids, the P70s are not even the best hearing aid in the Paradise lineup. That would be the P90's. However, there is no such thing as the "best" hearing aid because everyone's wants and needs are different.
Do you know if these hearing aids help someone with balance and stability issues (Cerebellar Ataxia)?
No
Price
I have them and Hate Them, I have never seen hearing aid that you need to manually connect the TV streamer to the hearing aids any time the sound is paused for any reason!
This could be a phone setting issue.
Nekem fontos a 350hz és 800hz kellene állítani a dB, mert a 350hz halk és 800hz hangos és hallás teszt is jó lenne több sáv is.
Can the Evolv be programmed remotely please
You have access to remote programming, however, you need in-office programming first.
WHERE MAY I FIND INSTRUCTIONS UN SETTING UP THE APP?
From your hearing care professional that you purchased them from.
Dsmn of course. So I can't buy a used pair fr8m ebay?
What is the range or relative cost of the different models. Just trying to get an idea and I realize prices vary based on the provider.
That is so variable it is hard to even give a range.
I'm trying to decide between this and the phonak virto paradise, can someone please let me know if there is a comparison?
You should consider the Phonak Lumity instead.
@@DrCliffAuD I just got prescribed my first hearing aids, and she gave me an over the ear device. So I'm thinking of trying out an in the ear device. I have minimal hearing loss but work in a very noisy environment. I'm trying out the Starkey Livio and it sounds terrible.
@@jeny9227 do they sound terrible because they weren't programmed properly, or you just don't like the way Starkey processes sound?
@@DrCliffAuD that's a good question, my next appt is in two weeks so I'll have to see what we can do to get me hearing better. Thank you for your videos, been watching them for two days every chance I get!
I was given a pair of the 2400 series hearing aids from my father and haven't been fitted yet with my hearing professional I'm just curious as to the maintenance routine for the hearing aids? The battery changing I've got down pretty good I just not quite sure about the other pieces that can be changed out as needed to keep the device and optimum working order such as the ear cushion which fits in the canal and a couple of pieces that came with them I'm not sure and my father couldn't tell me.. do you have a video on this information?
Why has Utube discontinued displaying the number of 'dislikes'?
Because TH-cam is trying to get away from negativity. We can still see the number of dislikes on our end.
Thanks, Dr. Cliff...btw...I asked you a couple questions via comments after viewing your video "How to get better quality music"; 10/12/21. (I'm a subscriber, but somehow missed that one until today.) Would really appreciate your response!
With the help of your videos, I regained my high-frequency hearing nearly two and a half years ago and once again I can enjoy listening to music. And, after watching your video on music quality, I am wondering if there is more I can do to improve the sound quality. Thanks!
@@Pilski could you repost the question here? I can't find it.
@@DrCliffAuD Thank you again...here it is... I hope you can answer a question for me. I occasionally stream from my phone or tablet, but, as a musician/audiophile, more than 90% of music listening is from my rather high-end stereo (i.e., $5000 speakers) system. I have Phonak Marvel aids and my question is: Does all the info you provided in this video apply only to streaming, or does it apply equally to 'open-ear' listening (music coming from speakers)?
I am using vented domes; is this a factor for bass response and if so, would unvented domes provide better bass response?
Thank you very much for any answers you may give; kindly make any other suggestion(s) for attaining the best sound from my stereo system.
BTW...HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
@@Pilski the bass response only applies to streamed music.
I have moderate hearing loss and tinnitus and have had the Livio2400Ai for 2.5 yrs- so, one question is, should I trade up with each new model brought to market, “like trading cars”, or wait until my model is obsolete, then get hit with a large purchase price?
It's like I always say sometimes the previous version of a product is sometimes better than the next gen but I'll leave that decision up to you
Dr Cliff, another fantastic and highly useful review!
One question please:
I am interested in either a Starkey Evolv IIC (NW) or Phonak M-Titanium.
Are you able to recommend which one I should go for? Or even what I should consider when making my choice between these two custom invisible hearing aids please?
The top priority for either one is....how good is the hearing care professional who is fitting the devices? Go with the better provider. They are both very good hearing aids.
If they do not work for you, like they didn’t for me, you will be stuck because they don’t stand behind their products. No refund!
Hey! Pranic healing and Reiki can cure hearing loss , please have some information about it
No. No it can't.
There is always some smartass trying to capitalize on people's suffering...
Behind the ear, face masks are a pain with those aides
if this hearing aid is that good why did not make it to the best 10?
Which is the cheapest Starkey hearing aid that someone can afford
Depends on their income. 🤷
The lowest cost Starkey level is the 1000 level.