I Bought This $12,000 UTV For $2,200. Can It Be Fixed With $50?
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- I buy a 2013 Massimo 800cc 4x4 UTV for $2,200. The cheapest UTV I have bought. Let's fix it with $50 #Massimo, #UTV, #800cc,
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Word from an old man who abused his back most of his life and now has a fused spine from 6 surgeries to repair the herniated disc from years of being stupid and lifting things I should of used a lift on or got help lifting heavy ackward parts.
Invest a couple hundred dollars in a hydraulic hoist to lift things like this motor. You will get away lifting things you shouldn't sometimes for years but the accumulated damage will show up as you get older and I can tell you that I wished I'd listened when people told me what I'm telling you.
I can guarantee you that you don't want my back or live with the pain that I'll have the rest of my life. Doctors can only fix so much and then you live with what they can't repair.
Some day I hope you don't remember what I've told you and say I wish id listened to that old man.
@@william6526 @william, I second that suggestion.
Also invest in a Roller Start to keep from messing up your feet, knees, ankles, family jewels.., when you are trying to kick start bikes that just don't want to cooperate.
I had a big cam Husky that would rattle my gonads blue trying to start it, so I took some advice and spent $150 on a Roller Start, and still use it today.
No more sore knees, legs, ankles, nut sac.., from kicking over bikes that refuse to start!
I know exactly what you are talking about. I built large boats for 30 years and lifted heavy stuff all the time. In the end I ruptured l4 l5 and l6. 2 back surgeries later I have a titanium rod and cage in my back and wish I had listened to.
Just retired from Moving and delivering freight. Back is awesome. DRINK LOTS OF MILK. LOL.
I totally agree cause I use to work at a Golf Course 😊😊😊
Joe. The old man is wise
I’ve read some of the comments before I started mine and it’s the same message… get a Harbor Freight hoist… you’ll probably never need it for a car engine, and it’ll be perfect for your needs in your garage:) I’m 74 today! And I too disregarded other’s advice to” work smart, not hard”👍
Nice!! Over 60 minutes of Sunday morning joe ☕️ with Joe!!! Let's goooooooo!!!! 👍🏼
Heck yes!
Chute yes buahhh
Where u going?
OCD me wonders why you don't pressure wash engines off before disassembly.
@@WeTrudgeOn I always wash them first..
The good thing about your videos is that when you sell these things you have evidence of the work done.
You continue to impress me...and this one was especially challenging! I've said it before...your workmanship, attention to detail, diagnostic skills, and sheer patience combine to make you a Class A++++ mechanic. There has to be a secret backstory to explain how you are so successful doing this work, yet not the regional vice president of operations for any one of a dozen major manufacturing companies. You have the right stuff and could/should easily be managing a team of a couple hundred mechanics...
He doesn't need that aggravation.
I would agree.
Joe doesn’t want all this BS praise… he doesn’t clean stuff, he didn’t even wash out the ‘honed’ barrels with hot soapy water to remove all the fine metal particles lodged in the hone scratches.
He’s an average mechanic, I’ve worked all my life the auto trade and I’ve seen really great techs with amazing attention to detail and I’ve seen some really lazy sloppy techs too.
Joe is at the lower end of the scale.
Lol talking all this smack 😂😂 start a channel and do better or STFU!!!@@munter10
I was thinking the same thing, he is next door to Polaris, Oshkosh automotive, and Harley. I'd prefer to see him have the freedom of running his own shop, or Teaching
Why didn't you pressure washer before installing it?So you can check for oil leaks easier
leave the temp sensor for the fan in the circuit. Put your switch in too so if you want to cool the engine you can otherwise the sensor will turn the fan on.
I agree. You might get busy and not pay attention and forget to turn the fan on.
Had this in my old can am. Was great and also leaving the fan on kept the cabin a lot cooler
Pretty sure that’s what he did as he said it comes on and off automatically.
You know Joe, watching you struggle with this engine reminds me that you need an engine crane. I know that you don't need it everyday but when you do, it really helps with handling the weight of bot engine and transmission n ot to mention saving a finger or two if they get pinched and maybe your back.
Or an electric winch from harbor freight attached to the ceiling joists.
Well done again Joe, just one comment, Please get used to cleaning your motors down before working on them, it is not only better to work on but it will stop any accidental transfer of dirt and grit to mating surfaces on rebuild.
You're absolutely right, Rob. I'll never understand why some guys don't clean whatever they have to work on first.
I have had great respect for Joe's ability to tear down a motor and find problems, but I have new greater respect for his his ability to find and diagnose electrical issues. I just stare at bare and broken wires on used machines like a puppy?
I love watching you work, you really know what you’re doing. If I can share one idea, when pouring oil, flip the bottle over, it looks wrong but it will pour smoothly without the surge. Keep up the great work.
@2vintage Joe - Aft piston went in backwards... I definitely agree with the comments about putting thermostats back in... I don't think putting a fan switch is a good repair - troubleshoot and fix the system to ensure it works as it should and maintains the proper operating temperature.
These machines were faulty from the factory. I have read all the forums on them. Everyone has the same overheating issue. They all overheat if you do not have the fan constantly going.
@@2vintage It's a pretty simple and basic system. The temp sensor trips the switch. If you have it a manual switch... what happens when someone gets in and forgets to turn it on? ...then the person doesn't realize it until the temp light comes on.
I read some comments on the poor quality stock fan. That's not difficult to resolve. Put in a good quality aftermarket fan... and done.
...but what are you going to about the piston you put in backwards. You stated and installed both pistons arrows toward the front. Arrow should be pointed toward the exhaust. The piston arrow on #1 should have been pointed aft toward the exhaust port. The #2 piston is oriented correctly with the arrow forward toward the exhaust.
Definitely put thermostats back in. otherwise the machine will be running to rich for too long. Additionally, if its run frequently for short distances it will probably foul out the plugs.
Also... don't forget to drain out that water and put in coolant before we get freezing whether...
@@MrRobsStuff Not sure what you heard but he said "the first cylinder (which i'm pretty sure he meant #2) pointed toward the front of the machine, cylinder 1 toward the back of the machine" at 18:27
@@gametime2473 if you listen to what he says at about 19:00, he says both pistons will point towards the front. Then if you look at the footage around 29:00, you will see the arrow on the piston is pointing toward the intake (or up in this case).
@@MrRobsStuff Oh, ok. If you have visual confirmation then that's a serious issue. Good eye, catching that.
I recommend installing an electric hoist right above your work area. I have one mounted right above my motorcycle lift. It's a huge help and a back saver. I learned the hard way and now have 6 screws and 3 rods in my lower back. My hoist is the 800lbs unit from Harbor Freight.
Yeah I’m with this👇guy id be nervous putting plastic gears back in this machine
Has no choice they only have plastic.
Don't mind the plastic but I would change every other plastic gears and guide after that amount of heat, they could become brittle and break after x amount of hours running.
No big deal to change while the thing is open.
But then again I would not feel comfortable using the whole thing, How hot dit the crank get and the rod bearings?
as far as i know they don't make metal gears
@@jacksat2252right. He had another new timing chain guide and didn’t use it.
I am astonished at the fact that Massimo thinks it's acceptable to save a few pennies by putting PLASTIC gears in a side by side. Unreal.
Ah my day just got better! New vid upload. Your content is preem 👍🏻
Sounds like you play a lot of Cyberpunk
@@gametime2473 I was wondering if somebody would get the reference 👍🏻. Cyberpunk/Rdr2 - (reference in my user name here)/GtaV etc. But also raced 2 stokes back in my teens early 2000’s ..had a Yz125 also Honda 125.. broke my arm and a collar bone and was told to stop. But I still love the smell of 2 stokes and just working on the engines. That’s why I enjoy these vids so much.
Joe, how come during the rebuild process you never clean the outside of the parts you are rebuilding? I thought that rebuild meant clean as well. That transmission was pretty dirty as was the engine itself
We really appreciate your diligence and knowledge and thank you for sharing!
I also agree with not bypassing the temp sensor/thermistor with a switch. All it takes is forgetting to turn it on and you are back at square one doing head gaskets again. Hopefully the temp limit switch is separate so the light comes on when it gets hot 😮
He left the sensor in did he not?
@LivingNed Yes, he left it in. He also cut the wires to wire the fan to a dash switch. The fan stays on because the sensor is bad. Have an atv in the garage right now that needs a new sensor. Reasonably priced at $128 🙄
Putting the piston in the cylinder first will save you a lot of headaches…it’s much easier to install the wrist pin at that stage rather than trying to compress the rings individually by hand
My OCD is saying "Why isn't he cleaning up the grime off the parts before or after putting them together!", but I'm saying "Probably because he's just flipping these machines and the next owner can deal with cleaning it, because the goal is to get a running machine then sell it", you do an amazing job and the information is invaluable!
It would sell better if it were clean, don't you think?
Me too it left me frustrated 😂😂
Great job on the diagnosing and the repairs. Watching your channel really gives me the confidence to make my own repairs. Very interesting and informative. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
First Mustie, now this. Great Sunday morning!
Yep!
@@BrianSnider-de1ttmustie?
Joe the MASSIMO engines are the same engine as the Hisun for your engine parts. You can get full rebuild kits on these engines 😉😉😉
You might try this... Turn the bottle of oil 180° in your hand to where the opening is at the top and it will flow easier without the chugging
If you ever smell coolant don’t pop the cap off right away 👀😂
He ran it for 30 seconds so it wasn't going to hurt anything.
It didn’t run long enough to get warm, the pressure was from the blown head gasket.
Should really consider cleaning the engine before opening it up. Im sure it got some of that debris inside it upon being put back together. Its like a surgeon coming in with bare hands and all sorts of dirt and oil under his fingernails.
As hot as that got, I was worried a minute their the heads warped,.
Definitely something to check in the future before you put heads back on.
Just need a nice flat surface and feeler gauges.
This was a big job... but I'm surprised you didn't replace the other chain guide,
even though the other one looked fine. Especially when it looks like they just pull out
and you already had another one. Seems like it would have given you a little peace of mind.
Joe I like your videos a lot. I think your one of the best mechanics on the net but I don't understand you not pressure washing stuff before you work on them.
Don't need to pressure was it before.you do it your way he does it his way.
Wow! The amount of labor is crazy! Great fix.
Great job Joe but a word to the wise take some of your profits and by an engine hoist or overhead crane “ WORK SMARTER NOT HARDER “ I love your videos and the knowledge you share thanks !!!
Another positive outcome. That’s the way Joe. Following from my armchair.😊
Sorry Joe, but the only way this thing was ever worth 12k is if there was 10k hidden in the glove box.
But it's "assembled" in the USA 😂. Seen one for 14.k at Tractor Supply . China special IMO & not worth it . Looks fantastic though !
@just4kicks950 I purchased a Chinese quad a while back. Biggest mistake I made in a long time. That thing was a total piece of garbage.
@@stkyfngrszmoothThats not good . Had a few china scoots with the gy6 for rides to work. I kept them on the road. Air cooled simple setups ran good 20.k on the gy6. You get into liquid cooled on chinese setup's. Changes the game "chineseium" isn't good with heat ♨️ lol. Sorry to hear that, been there working on a friend machine.
@stkyfngrszmooth Used to say that about arcade games when i was flipping them "That pacmans only worth $800 with a full coin box" lol
@@Ajaxaxxess True 😂 lol
"Alligator Clip" in the 1960s/70s was AKA, a roach clip.😜
nice job! You should have hooked up the fan switch in parallel with the temp sensor so both would still work in case you forget to turn the fan on manually.
Hi fella,it's interesting watching you in action.There's a lifting hoist type of thing they use in old folk's homes too lift them out of chairs and beds, it's compact and smaller than a cheery picker and might just save your back! Because your back at your age in good shape is priceless ! Keep up the Great video's .From michael in Tennessee !;-)
I know that was a faux pas with the radiator cap that first day. I work at a gas station at 1516 years old and they told me to take a handful of shop rags. I don't think I've ever done in any other way without a shop rag on it or a towel hot or cold. Just kind of ingrained in my brain. Learned a lot of things working at a gas station🎉 like a battery will explode like a bomb if you leave it long enough on a commercial charger almost killed my boss😮
Dear Joe. Please use Minty Jade's toothbrush to clean something on this machine. Thanks!!
The way you have to line up that slot when you slide the case on. Who made up that hokey design lol
$50 in parts and $3000 in labor and she is fixed.
It's not 3k in labor it's free labor.
It was Free labor nerd…
who do you think did the labor
@@jerrywilcox9890 U work for free? That would b over 5 grand in labor at a shop and the thing would b clean. If somebody was telling me this engine was just gone thru i would walk away seen enough
@@robertdelinsky7247 it's free labor cupcake
Outstanding repair Joe. That was a difficult repair. Get yourself a engine hoist to save your back. 😉👍👌
Man you got some patience !!! Great video you inspire us all to get the spanner’s out and take something apart 👍 but then we have to take it to the shop to be put back together ✌️ from 🇬🇧
Uffda, my back was already sore this morning but it got a little stiffer after watching you wrestle the motor back in!
One of your most satisfying rebuilds. Very nice work.
Some of those side by sides have a limiter that won’t let it run full speed if the seat belt is not connected, my buddy hooked his together and put them behind the seats 👍🏼
Your skills, tenacity, and patience are incredible. Well done.
Joe, you need an engine hoist. Take it from someone who was built like you, now 64 y/o, you are going to have back issues and high probability of hernia(s). I had 3 hernias repaired some years ago. Why only rupture 1? 🤷♂️😂
That said, great video series. And I haven’t even finished this one. 👍
He seems to have an aversion to using a bench vise, too. 😂
I'm surprised he don't have a bike lift,would be so much easier on the body.
I've had one hernia going on two at age 42. I'm with you
I was a little concerned that you didn't check the heads for warping, you can use a small piece of glass.( I use a mirror) down on a flat surface and a 0.001 gauge, so you can go around the edge checking for gaps. that was a lot of heat that motor endured. Heads usually take a beating with extreme heat..seems to be running fine for now. good job
Hey man I’ve got a Polaris hammerhead go cart that I can not figure out, I got it running but something is wrong with the vacuum lines and I can’t seem to find anything to help, I was hoping you could please help me diagnose this issue
Your very intelligent and do awesome work.. but why is it so important to put these motors back together all full of grease and dirt? What's wrong with cleaning them up first?
My first car i had the electric fan would not turn on ,so i changed the temp sensor and relay which it still didn't work so i ended up wiring it up to a fuse that would turn on with the ignition key. Never had any problems after that.
It is a fine Sunday when I get to see Joe in the zone Wrenching away first thing in the morning 😊😊
Nice job Joe! You are da man!
May need to fasten the driver side seatbelt
I can just imagine the pain if u get ur fingers pinched in between frame n engine trying to remove or install lol, good job as always joe
Holy shit, you're almost at half a million subs. Congrats, well deserved.
I really enjoy your repairs. You’re really good at what you do.
If I could find a deal like that , I would run with out the water pump. New head gasket and a 12Volt coolant pump with an on /off temperature switch. Call me lazy. You did GREAT job.
Brilliant as always Joe fantastic viewing
Great job, congrats but you need a lifter, because with these works you destroy your back like i did in 30 years of coalmineworking
Great work Joe!! And thanks for the follow up video on the fruits of your labor!! Kerp’em coming!!
needs a metal gear not a plastic gear.
I agree but they make everything crappy now days and to get a machine shop to make a gear wouldn't be feasible..
I'm sure someone makes a gear that would fit perfectly. You just gotta look for it. Same goes for budget bearings when the replacement bearing costs 10 × more than it should. There are always alternative parts available somewhere.
They don't make a metal gear for it.
@stkyfngrszmooth no they don't only thing you can get is plastic gears.
Unfortunately most of the cars made today use plastic crap too. Smh.. mechanics nightmare. My Ford truck had a plastic timing gear.
purchase a piston ring compression tool for as many top ends as you do!
Most piston ring compression tools are made to assist putting a piston down in a cylinder block. For most of these small engines, you are putting the barrel or block if you will down on the piston. The tool is just not designed to work that way.
Detailing YT'ers: today we're going to show 20 different coatings for plastics
2vintage: WD40 is my coating of choice!
I will ask again but if Joe does'nt say does anyone know what impacts and drivers he uses? Looks like Skill but not Milwaukee. Would be cool to see your brother help on one of your builds. Do you see yourself looking at previous footage to rebuild? You should look into getting your oil in drums the way your going.Should be more like to the amount of views. Come on subs! I spoke too early. I think you have a 5 gallon bucket of something. you should do a montage of all the times you said "She fired right up". Good build Joe. You made my Sunday morning.
Another great video. Just one small point. When you’re honing your cylinders, use the lowest speed on your drill. You’re looking for a 45° cross hatch on the cylinder walls. 🙂
Great job Joe! Runs great now! Sound system installed in it next!!
Not trying or wanting to sound like a know it all but when I put my jug on I’ve found it easier to put the piston in it first and then put the combo of the piston and jug on together. Just makes it easier about getting the rings in or at least it does for myself. Hopefully that helps out, anyway another good video keep it up.
Remember considering these when they 1st came out, seemed like a lot of machine for the money but with no dealer support I instead bought a Cub Cadet Volunteer UTV that wound up being a big disappointment, Cub Cadet then dropped that line a and started selling Massimo with their name on it, after a few years of nothing but issues with them they dropped that line also. Now have a 2023 Can Am 850 Outlander so far so good other than the battery only lasted less a year and the dealer wouldn't cover it under warrantee, really wish you were near by.
Another great Sunday morning video from Joe
Seat belt would cause it to rev limit.
Love this channel. Awesome work. Keep ‘em coming.
Great job, Joe! You could flip that UTV now and makes some good, hard-earned cash back on the deal. Excellent video!
Well done Joe!
Really enjoy your vlog. I was wondering why you don’t clean the outside of the engines you work on?
Wonder if the head is warped?
Speaking from a healthcare perspective I wish you would wear gloves more often when handling those oils, gasket making chemicals, etc. The skin is the largest organ of the body and will absorb that stuff sending it to your kidneys and or liver to be metabolized. May not seem like it's doing much now but down the road it could get you. Hope you don't take any offense just love watching you fix these machines and want to see you keep at it as long as possible. Keep it up you g man, you're quite the artist.
do a garage tour mate from australia love the vids 🇦🇺
"Well I have been dreading working on this machine" lol... oh man I give you so much much credit....
Great job Joe, always good watching a style
Glad to see that the WD-40 is making a comeback on the channel 😉😁
You should have gotten one your brothers to help you lift the motor. I put an electric hoist in from harbor freight. Put it on a slide rail so I can slide stuff into place. Another great video
I can't believe they made such a critical engine part out of cheap plastic
Another Great Video!
Nice Work!!!
I have a block and tackle (4 pulley) secured to a rafter for jobs like this.
Joe your ambition on this project is impressive. Always interesting to see your determination,
Thank you, love the ENGINE OUT videos, at my age so much easier to work on vs bending, stooping, banging knuckles
Nothing is more soothing than wrenching whilst watching 2vintage wrenching.
For 12k new they should put aloy gears in it
Cherry picker for helping lift engines work smarter not harder. Great videos
Great find n you got a bargain n you fixed it as usual your mechanical skills
Hi, great videos I have been watching you for at least 6 months now. love all your videos.
I guess you sell some of your stuff that you repair that you don't want otherwise you would have and massive load of stuff or you have a massive collection keep up the great videos thoroughly enjoy
That green and white wire is the neutral safety switch ground wire through the frame body ground and the common split return ground wires that travel's back through the neutral wires to.
Always enjoy your videos but need you in KY. Was taking 3 year old on a ride in my Arctic cat prowler, a 2017 with only 54 hours on it, like new, but he decided to grab the gear shift and pull it down to park while we were riding, going very slow though. Was able to ride back home but something is wrong inside transmission. Cannot find anyone here to work on and looks like you can fix anything. Great videos
Joe, I’d love to see how you keep track of all the bolts and parts between delayed builds like this.
You should invest on an over head chain lift for these jobs make a world of difference. Electric winch maybe
I’m just here for the power washing and parts cleaner
😂😂😂😂😂😂 you will be here for a long time thee😂😂
Great fix, thankfully, it was loads of work for such a stupid problem, but you've ended up with a really neat one, still looks like new.👍❤️
Engine hoist or a chain hoist would be a big help for you!