LG HVAC Follow Up: LG MULTI V IV LGMV Service Tool (LGMV Computer Connection) LGMV Module Software
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Watching the system on a computer using LGMV will allow you to see the EEV positions of each FCU and the pipe in and out temps. That should help narrow dirty coils / filters, or bad EEVs.
Definitely. This tool will Definitely help to narrow down the issue here. If we can get one whole system back up to normal, we can then restore them all. Definitely need to look into those EEVs. Thanks for watching & happy holidays 🔧⚡️
What a great series of videos for troubleshooting for this system and I applaud you for trying to see this problem through and not just walking away.
Thank you! I will try my best to figure this out and keep you all informed. I would love to solve these problems. Thanks for watching & happy holidays! 🔧⚡️
Ok, so i have been watching this saga. I am also listening to what you said about back to basics. Although you changed compressor when it was warm out, you are getting a high amperage in heating. That being said, the indoor coil is basically the condenser. We all know what happens to compressors when we have a dirty condenser.
You are definitely on the right track with getting back to basics. Maintenance. This is what happens when you forgo maintenance. Yeah, things may work for years, and you are happy you didn't fall for the maintenance trap." Eventually, you have to pay the piper. And it's gonnna be a bigger bill because now you are in dire straits
The saga continues 😂 I totally agree with you here. Being in heat mode now & the indoor coil acting as a condenser, being that the fans are plugged with dust/dirt, it totally makes sense as to the system running with high amps. High amps over a long period of time will definitely destroy a compressor. Every unit we have cleaned we had to cut down the ceiling to do so. That's how you know none of these units never had any proper maintenance done. Definitely need maintenance here. First we need proper access. It's truly incredible what's going on here. Thanks for watching & commenting brother🤙 Happy holidays to you & yours 🔧🎄⚡️
Indoor coils are the main reason compressors go on VRF systems. They really gotta be clean. Sometimes an EEV that’s bypassing also is very hard to catch it can cause these failures.
Thank you for your input. Glad to hear that makes a difference as we have found the indoor units in terrible shape. We need to look into the EEVs now that we are using the LGMV module. Thanks for watching & happy holidays!
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The model plate is what you would expect at the disconnect. LGMV showed (INV input CT 9.6 amps) (INV input VT 215 volts). Looks normal A proper test would be to put all IDU in heating. The compression ratio looks a little high Hard to read with everything in kpa and C. LGMV HI 414PSI LOW 95PSI INV discharge 163* Liquid 75*
Thank you for your input. It does show INV INPUT CT - 9.6 which would seem normal but it also shows INV PHASE CT - 25.2 and that was matching with the amperage my multimeter was getting at the compressor itself. I heard the amperage should be tested at the input of the VFD but am getting mixed opinions. I need to run a test with all the units set to heating and cooling. Much appreciated. Have a happy holiday🎄🔧⚡️
Good thought, PHASE CT will always be higher than INPUT CT. That's the magic of the inverter board. Frequency will vary as well. @@JumpermanTech
@@sandiegomechanicalpros Very interesting. What is the true amperage this unit is pulling? Is it the input amperage at 9.6 Amps?
Correct. If you look at your screenshot inv DC link is 280 vdc that is the driving supply for the CT 25.2 amps. It is a DC generated sign wave that is a fake AC given to the compressor. That way the frequency can be varied from 55-155 Hz (I think, (135Hz) don't remember high end for sure have it written down somewhere) @@JumpermanTech
@@sandiegomechanicalpros So 9.6 Amps is the actual amperage for this compressor & not 25.2? Thank you for your input! Merry Christmas!
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run the cooling for a while and monitor the parameters and see how the compressor doing.
then you can narrow the problem
We will definitely be going on a deep dive with these units using this tool to see what's going on here. Thanks for watching & happy holidays!🔧⚡️
When you showed the indoor unit data . It showed 2 indoor units that were at 0 degress superheat . You are slugging the compressor and washing the oil out of the compressor. I would locate those indoor units and do checks on the eevs . You will most likely hear the refrigerant pouring through the coil with the units off .
Record Day was 41* range outside temp (41*-23*) HI 363-435psi; LOW 58-116psi; ODU Fan 50-80% Comp Ratio 60-80%; INV Discharge temp 167*-185*; Liquid temp 77*-104*; IDU EEV 300-500; ODU Main EEV 400-800; IDI Pipe in 104*-122*
Thank you for all of your input my friend! Really appreciate it🙏🔧⚡️
Hello. What did the representative LG say after viewing the recordings LGMV data, whats the issue?
A couple of questions... What operating system are you running and at what resolution are us using? I loaded this on my windows 10 and the graphics are all squished up and almost unreadable.
Please. Make Video how to install and set up use on computer LGMV software. And where's to buy LGMV Service Tool to connect to computer ? Thank you
Thank you for your input. I will make a video for that. I bought the tool online from www.supplyhouse.com Happy holidays!🔧⚡️
hi. Thanks for the interesting video. tell me, does LGMV work without a flash key? do you only need the device itself or some other activation key?
Are the units set for 460 or Canada 530? They are at 120hrtz and go to 140? Would be higher amps if the power reg board is configured wrong or its ment for a different voltage
Canadian always has to be special 😂with manufacturer’s spec
These units are 208V 3 Phase for United States. Wonder how I would be able to find out what these units were configured for. Would need to reach out to the local rep. Thank you for your input & for watching. Happy holidays! 🔧⚡️
you have to have inverted traps only the filter casing needs to go Starving compressor of oil
Filter casings definitely need to go. No traps as far as I could see here on the roof and nothing on the indoor units. Many have mentioned the inverted traps. Need to figure out how to configure that and recommend that here. Thank you for your input & happy holidays! 🔧⚡️
Could oil deprivation to compressor be causing high amps?
It would sense that no oil will make the compressor run harder but I believe it's a mix of things going on here. Thanks for watching & happy holidays!🔧⚡️
I feel identified with your work that's why I haven't missed a video since a couple of weeks back. Some people comment that you are not testing the electronics right, what do you say about it?
Thank you for your support! When I was testing the bridge diode on the converter board I tested it wrong at first in the video but also in the video right after I tested it correctly by switching the positive and negative leads. I misread the testing instruction at first but corrected it right after and confirmed there was nothing wrong. People always have something to say online. I could have edited that part out of my video but I like the show the true thinking process. Things happen on the job but in the end, I did test it properly & I am narrowing down the issues here. Thanks for watching & happy holidays 🔧⚡️
I would never put out false information in my videos. I will only put out the best information here 👍🔧⚡️
@JumpermanTech that happens to all us field technicians. I haven't had a chance to replay that video. Take care. Dont stop showing New york. Beautiful scenery 👌
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@rightconditions2789 Definitely does. I will continue to show New York & make more videos. Thanks for watching & Merry Christmas! 🔧⚡️
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Supply cable sizing.... power harmonics
As long as it doesn't show error codes ,I believe it is an indoor unit maintenance problem
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Maintenence Was not done
It definitely was not if you seen previous videos of the condition of the air handlers. It's incredible. Thanks for watching & happy holidays! 🔧⚡️
Remember LG was sold an bought a couple time Japan
I did not know that. I would like to do research on this company now. Thanks for the info & for watching! Happy holidays 🔧⚡️
Record Day was 41* That is right at the edge of the charts Range outside temp (59*-41*) HI 363-435psi; LOW 102-145psi; ODU Fan 20-50% Comp Ratio 50-70%; INV Discharge temp 149*-167*; Liquid temp 77*-104*; IDU EEV 400-600; ODU Main EEV 200-600; IDI Pipe in 104*-122* Take your pick of chart ranges Your numbers almost fit inside both charts. Liquid temp is low in both and LOW pressure is low in this chart. Running all indoor units on high fan will tell the truth of the matter. You maybe low on charge.
Thank you very much for your input! The day was 35 degrees outside when running this. Run all the fans on high and all in heat? Maybe also compare running all the units in cooling as well? I am wondering out how to properly check the outdoor and indoor EEV. Can't find good instruction from the app. Interesting you say that because technical support was wondering if the units were actually overcharged. Thank you & happy holidays 🔧⚡️
Let's talk about those inside units, one video I thought you said 9 IDU, but LGMV screenshot showed 6 - 9,9,9,7,7,7 for a total of 48k, that blew my mind to have a 72k out door unit only serving 48k. unit charge is 16.8 lbs ? You added something like 404 oz or 25 lbs. That's 8 lbs for 6 IDU at 1.3 lbs each. It sure could be over charge @@JumpermanTech
@mechanicalpros3214 For most units, it usually handles 8 or 9 indoor units from what I have seen. You are correct here. It says 6 IDU written on the unit and I'm looking at the screenshot. It says 7,7,7,9,9 & 9 BTU units. It is a 72,000 BTU outdoor unit & the indoor units total to 48,000 BTU's. I recovered 440 OZ to be exact and that is what I charged it back with. 25.5 LBS of R410A
@@sandiegomechanicalpros Unit charge is 16.9 LBS
@@sandiegomechanicalpros The outdoor unit seems extremely oversized. Wonder how that would affect this system. What are your thoughts here?
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Thank you HVAC Brother 🤙 I truly wonder about these LG units. Something is terribly wrong here. So many compressor failures. Thanks for watching & happy holidays!🔧⚡️
Its 2023, 24, why arent these units connecting to wifi and calling home! Manufacturers have a long ways to go!
They should be fixing themselves! These units are very interesting but it's quite a mess to work with. Great learning experience. Thanks for watching! 🔧⚡️
The dreaded LG system 😂
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Smart tvs are smarter than these units 😅
Like I always say, "so smart that they're dumb" 😂 Thanks for watching!
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