Great video! I appreciate that even though it's an easy lock to open, you spent the time expanding on it to discuss a question that comes up all the time.
Nice tutorial on tubular picks. This tubular lock was obviously meant to be the easiest one to open and also meant to be picked open using a tubular pick. I like that you seized the opportunity to cover the differences between 2 types of picks. Next up is the Camel card key lock. Onward!
1:19 - I used the word 'knurled' yesterday. I heard someone on TV use the word 'knurled' last night. I heard someone use the word 'knurled' while I was outside smoking earlier today. Bill, please, you are making me cry.
Soon we shall see what lies inside of the box. I wager there are even more cleverly thought out challenges ahead for our intrepid lock picker Bill. Alien Technology!! Black Magic!!!
It seems like the first tool actually took less turns than the second tool once you added the additional rubber bands. ~15 turns for the first one and ~57 for the second tool. It's hard to judge the speed to open since you were much quicker with your turns on the second tool.
Perhaps, but the point is that FINDING the right number of bands that give the correct tension on the fingers is time-consuming. With the SouthOrd, mere seconds. It comes down to “how much is your time worth?”
@@biskitvixxn occasionally, someone will find a safe, in their basement, in a field, in an old barn, under the floor boards and post a picture on reddit there are 2 "famous?" ones that this guy could be talking about one person posted photos, kept giving updates, right up until before he opened it, then just stopped posting, everyone was invested in it another one was building up a lot of hype, promising not to disappear, giving updates, then revealed it was empty.
it's true, the tension is critical. I have one of the cheap ones and took off the stock bands off and used 5 of the "Castrating bands" that you like for the bump keys. I found they worked pretty good for me.
I have the huk set but I added a aluminium sleeve the fits snug over the bands the can be moved to cover more or less for tension and holds it in place after picked, not perfect , but works, and the thick bands with corners in the huk set go beneath the finger pins to apply tension from inside, thin ones from outside.
I was waiting for you to show off your spp picking skills on that tubular lock. Can you take out the pin from the Southord that grips the inner ring on the lock to tension? I remember watching LPL give reasonable praise to the Huk set because that tension pin can be removed.
I have got both the Southord and the Klom impressioning tools, yes they have both got good things going for them but what I found annoying was the guide pin in my Southord couldn't be removed on my one so it made obsolete for the newer types of locks that didn't have the notch cut out on the centre bit, still a great tool don't get me wrong but for the price it would have been nice to be able to use it on other locks ;-)
A lot of faffing about with the cheaper tool, although it did work; you would be adding and removing bands for each lock you worked on, and you are guaranteed to lose bands over time. Good explanation and demonstration 👍
Nicely done as always Bill. I like the way you use the tubular pick and I may try using it the way you do. I get good results the way I use mine, but will try your method to see if it's easier. I tend to Zero, nip collar up same as you, but I gently push, withdraw, push etc while twisting in just a clockwise direction whereas you twist in both directions.
Amen Bill!!! The most important thing my dad ever taught me growing up is You get what you paid for and both you and he are right!!! Thank you for all the wonderful videos!!
Hey bill, I'd appreciate it you would put something like "(cheap tubular picks)" in the titles of videos like this it would help people trying to find information if they aren't subscribed
Should the bands on the klom not be further down the shaft, big difference between end of tube to tension part on klom to whats on southord. Just asking not sure if it would have made a difference.
Not really, those work on a kinetic principle, you hit the pins an try to catch the shear line. This one belongs in the impressioning category, you impression the right profile in the tool by pushing or deforming the tool itself, and have the advantage that usually you can decode the result and duplicate the key.
@@josuelservin2409 i think your response is good. My perspective is that its a pick with multiple elements that are intended to engage the pins simultaneously or in sequence and while in motion so as to speed up your picking over single pin picking. I think depending on your intention, both views are correct.
That was an interesting video. Thank you for posting. I have never seen one of those tools used. Amazing how easy you make it look to open an unpickable lock. How much talent/practice do you need to make this work?
Nice work Bill, and thanks for the quick comparison between the tubular picks. I have tried both, and have definitely had better luck with the southord
@@thelockpickinglebowski633 Bosnian Bill is kinda the Bob Ross of lockpicking, so this happy accident is pretty fitting. Great work on the cool locks and the chest. Can't wait to find out what's inside...
Crosswalk that something only the purchaser can decide. What is your job, are you a locksmith, arcade/vending machine restorer, professional thief, etc. Who is paying for it you or your company? How long do you plan on using it, the Southord looks much more stout and will last a lot longer.
not necessarily. if the tubular lock uses different pressure springs in their lock, then it can resist this attack. most of them just dont bother for some reason....
That SouthOrd tool would be good if you bought an old pop machine, say 70s to 90s vintage, at an antique store and had to open it but it had no key. You could get the pop machine for cheaper than normal, open it, and make a key for it.
Looking at banggood now they now seem to have a tubular lockpick's that seems to behave like your southord. I wonder how well they work. I don't really like the idea of braces rings (I know they aren't really those) tightening the pick. That too gives me high school flashbacks to having braces :P
I have bought a set of cheap ones to undo the lock on my snapon tool box a video on here shows it's the 7.5 size but I can't seem to open the lock ive opened other locks using the tool but can't seem to get it open any advice would be appreciated.
How can aquire a challenge to i am new to lock picking I only have 3 homemade picks trying to save some money for a set that is relatively affordable and will be worth the while but i was wanting to know if I can receive a challenge lock from someone in the community I wanted to challenge myself cause I really appreciate your time and effort in helping us understand the process of picking and I really enjoy these videos to say least
Bill, I agree that there is a flaw with the Klom picks, but the Goso picks are much cheaper than the Southord, in my opinion are of actually higher quality, and they work the same way as the southord with respect to the tension on the picking tines - there is a machined collet that can be tightened or loosened to adjust tension on all of the tines. It also has a very nice feature to zero the tool out - much better than the system utilized by either the southord or klom. gosolockpicks.com/product/goso-7-pin-tubular-lock-pick
@@Twenty-fifthofMay1967 Bill definitely knows his stuff, but there are a lot of very experienced pickers out there without the name recognition Bill has attained (and rightfully so - his videos are excellent and instructive). Still, I think he would be the first to admit that, while very skilled, there are plenty of people out there far more skilled than he. In this case, the choice of tools is Bill's opinion. My opinion is different, and I also have quite a bit of experience. I'm not sure if Bill has tried the Goso picks I mentioned or not, so I mentioned them. Interestingly, LPL disagrees with both bill and myself. He prefers the very picks that Bill specifically mentions he doesn't like in this video, and specifically also mentions that he prefers them over the Goso picks that I like. Although I like Bill's content more, I feel very confident in saying that LPL is a better picker than myself and Bill. So this is one of those opinion things that is not a concrete answer.
@@bosnianbill You reviewed the SouthOrd PXS 14 Beginner's Lock Pick Set and I tried to comment there, but it didn't work. Just wondering if the kit works on European locks? If not, have you any suggestions on a good beginner set for European locks?
Yes, it will work on beginner European locks. For advanced locks you will need picks made from a thinner, more delicate material, like 0.015” thick or so.
Bill I asked you about them not long ago. Southord was having a big sale for whatever holiday. You told me to just buy a set of the cheap ones?? Now few months later your doing a video saying why we should buy the good ones.
For occasional use, when you don’t mind a few extra minutes futzing around with the rubber bands, the cheap one works fine - just don’t get any oil on the shaft or it will NEVER tension right. If you are a locksmith, where every minute counts against profitability, spend the extra $ for the quick-adjust ability on the SouthOrd.
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Great video! I appreciate that even though it's an easy lock to open, you spent the time expanding on it to discuss a question that comes up all the time.
Have to agree, not a single wasted time on Bills videos.
I really appreciated that he took the time to tell us what the individual pluses and minuses were on each tool.
Nice tutorial on tubular picks. This tubular lock was obviously meant to be the easiest one to open and also meant to be picked open using a tubular pick. I like that you seized the opportunity to cover the differences between 2 types of picks. Next up is the Camel card key lock. Onward!
I'm curious, once Bill is done unlocking this treasure chest of sorts, will you be sending LockPickingLawyer a similar challenge chest?
@@gothyoda No, I'm all tapped out.
You and the Lock Picking Lawyer need to make one of these tools with all the bells and whistles.
. . . ..but affordable!
1:19 -
I used the word 'knurled' yesterday.
I heard someone on TV use the word 'knurled' last night.
I heard someone use the word 'knurled' while I was outside smoking earlier today.
Bill, please, you are making me cry.
I think the Cheaper tubular picks are great for locksport but a locksmith might prefer the SouthOrd.
Soon we shall see what lies inside of the box.
I wager there are even more cleverly thought out challenges ahead for our intrepid lock picker Bill.
Alien Technology!!
Black Magic!!!
When the last lock is removed we'll find .......
The box is welded shut
😂😂😂😂😂
@@geoffowen7627 That would be cruellllllll.
One lock closer to the finish line!
It seems like the first tool actually took less turns than the second tool once you added the additional rubber bands. ~15 turns for the first one and ~57 for the second tool.
It's hard to judge the speed to open since you were much quicker with your turns on the second tool.
Perhaps, but the point is that FINDING the right number of bands that give the correct tension on the fingers is time-consuming. With the SouthOrd, mere seconds. It comes down to “how much is your time worth?”
Great video Bill. I took the collet off of the Southord and put it on the cheap one and it works great. Best of both Worlds!
Hope we won't be disappointed with the contents, like with that infamous Reddit safe 😅
What is this ‘Reddit Safe’ of which you speak?
@@biskitvixxn occasionally, someone will find a safe, in their basement, in a field, in an old barn, under the floor boards and post a picture on reddit
there are 2 "famous?" ones that this guy could be talking about
one person posted photos, kept giving updates, right up until before he opened it, then just stopped posting, everyone was invested in it
another one was building up a lot of hype, promising not to disappear, giving updates, then revealed it was empty.
it's true, the tension is critical. I have one of the cheap ones and took off the stock bands off and used 5 of the "Castrating bands" that you like for the bump keys. I found they worked pretty good for me.
Nice tip!
I have the huk set but I added a aluminium sleeve the fits snug over the bands the can be moved to cover more or less for tension and holds it in place after picked, not perfect , but works, and the thick bands with corners in the huk set go beneath the finger pins to apply tension from inside, thin ones from outside.
I was waiting for you to show off your spp picking skills on that tubular lock.
Can you take out the pin from the Southord that grips the inner ring on the lock to tension? I remember watching LPL give reasonable praise to the Huk set because that tension pin can be removed.
Can be removed... or not ! The tension pin is stuck in one of mines and I have no idea how I can remove it.
the GOSO brown ones are about £7 each and have the same features as the southord with an even better reload function.
I have got both the Southord and the Klom impressioning tools, yes they have both got good things going for them but what I found annoying was the guide pin in my Southord couldn't be removed on my one so it made obsolete for the newer types of locks that didn't have the notch cut out on the centre bit, still a great tool don't get me wrong but for the price it would have been nice to be able to use it on other locks ;-)
You can use a Dremmel tool to remove the pin.
I really hope that there is another smaller lock box inside that.
A lot of faffing about with the cheaper tool, although it did work; you would be adding and removing bands for each lock you worked on, and you are guaranteed to lose bands over time. Good explanation and demonstration 👍
Yeah he shot one off just filming this video :D
It's a good day when you get what you pay for clarification. I wouldn't count on it too much.
Great video, as usual. My only question is... HOW MANY INTROS DO YOU HAVE???? :'D
1548 and counting
Now we know where all his TH-cam revenue goes, has to pay off that graphics designer for all the unique intros.
a common misconception, his channel is simply an intro test channel, masqueraded as a lockpicking channel
All of them
I think he explained in one video that he had different fans that just like to make intros and he just uses them.
Bill cant you use a pipe clamp with a twist turner instead of a screw on the chinese decoder to give the proper pressure??
It may work, maybe adding a piece of rubber to distribute the pressure evenly.
Great video as usual, thanks for the great information on tubular lock picks, good to know.
I do love the southord tubular lock picks. I bought two just because they are very nice made tools. Thanks for a little longer video, Bill.
Banggood and Klom are toys, imo. Good for getting started but I agree that you get what you pay for.
Nicely done as always Bill. I like the way you use the tubular pick and I may try using it the way you do. I get good results the way I use mine, but will try your method to see if it's easier. I tend to Zero, nip collar up same as you, but I gently push, withdraw, push etc while twisting in just a clockwise direction whereas you twist in both directions.
Can’t wait to see what’s in there.
Amen Bill!!! The most important thing my dad ever taught me growing up is You get what you paid for and both you and he are right!!! Thank you for all the wonderful videos!!
Got my first set from sparrows today going to enjoy learning how to use them
I found out those picks don't work on certain locks. Can't remember the name but I spent so long trying before googling it and realizing it wasn't me.
Aint it a bitch when you expect something to fail, and it actually works pretty well LOL
Have you considered instead of taking the washer off your nice tool, installing a magnet in the handle?
Also for the cheap Chinese tool, would you be able to replace the silibands with a small pipe clamp?
Hey bill, I'd appreciate it you would put something like "(cheap tubular picks)" in the titles of videos like this it would help people trying to find information if they aren't subscribed
Should the bands on the klom not be further down the shaft, big difference between end of tube to tension part on klom to whats on southord. Just asking not sure if it would have made a difference.
Wouldnt a tubular pick be the equivalent of a bump key or rake for a tubular lock?
Not really, those work on a kinetic principle, you hit the pins an try to catch the shear line. This one belongs in the impressioning category, you impression the right profile in the tool by pushing or deforming the tool itself, and have the advantage that usually you can decode the result and duplicate the key.
@@josuelservin2409 i think your response is good. My perspective is that its a pick with multiple elements that are intended to engage the pins simultaneously or in sequence and while in motion so as to speed up your picking over single pin picking. I think depending on your intention, both views are correct.
If you want cheap try the top of a crayola marker. They fit into the tubular well and a bit of wiggling often gets 'er done.
I have to try that just for the giggles.
That was an interesting video. Thank you for posting. I have never seen one of those tools used. Amazing how easy you make it look to open an unpickable lock. How much talent/practice do you need to make this work?
I am loving this treasure chest series. Can't wait to see what's inside
Excellent tutorial and demonstration of models available
Nice work Bill, and thanks for the quick comparison between the tubular picks. I have tried both, and have definitely had better luck with the southord
I don't want to sound mean, but I hope there's another box inside with a REALLY difficult to pick lock on it before Bill gets to the prize.
There's a Bowley locking up a single gummy bear.
Which impressioning tool do you use then?
He said the Southord one.
Thanks Bill I've often wondered that about the cheaper tool. Nice video, were almost there, now then just what's inside?? Another lock maybe.
Once again, thanks for the great training!
Wonder if you could combine the two or even just swap the handle over to the southord.
If that Camel lock is NOT going to be a 15 second video, I will be thoroughly disappointed.
I just found your channel recently and subbed. Love watching these vids even though I have never been interested in lock picking. Nice work!
Lock Fort-teen is a Fort lock...
Lebowski you clown...
Happy accident, I assure you.
@@thelockpickinglebowski633
Bosnian Bill is kinda the Bob Ross of lockpicking, so this happy accident is pretty fitting. Great work on the cool locks and the chest. Can't wait to find out what's inside...
@@arifhossain9751 Thanks for tuning in. Definitely a fun series!
You're on the home stretch now, Bill.
Nice video, always up for learning and side by side comparison on tools. Thanks for the advice on them
Thank you for the lesson now I understand the kloms tubular pick.
You can easily 3D print a compression ring for the cheapo chinese one.
But if you can get a cheap sweet like that for $20, is the Southord worth 4 times the price for the 20 seconds in savings?
Crosswalk that something only the purchaser can decide. What is your job, are you a locksmith, arcade/vending machine restorer, professional thief, etc. Who is paying for it you or your company? How long do you plan on using it, the Southord looks much more stout and will last a lot longer.
So Tubular locks are pretty worthless then
not necessarily. if the tubular lock uses different pressure springs in their lock, then it can resist this attack. most of them just dont bother for some reason....
I dont agree with you get what you pay for, my HPC tubular pick doesn't work at all
Practice, practice, practice
@@hardcodedsoftware4212 no it just doesn't work , got cheap ones that work fine
That SouthOrd tool would be good if you bought an old pop machine, say 70s to 90s vintage, at an antique store and had to open it but it had no key. You could get the pop machine for cheaper than normal, open it, and make a key for it.
I've been excitedly awaiting the Camel lock! I swear man, your videos are like my new ADD medication!
I don't know anyone who locks their camel anymore.
I did wonder about the difference, thank you for explaining.
Imagine that, using more rubber is the answer sometimes :)
Bill, come on. We all know that the saying that you get exactly what you pay for can be as much BS as shining a turd.
Could you put the collett on the KLOM?
Nicely done buddy Thanks for sharing the video. 🌟⭐🌟⭐🌟😎
Getting there
Plenty of Chinese locks here, no need to move to China 😅
Looking at banggood now they now seem to have a tubular lockpick's that seems to behave like your southord. I wonder how well they work. I don't really like the idea of braces rings (I know they aren't really those) tightening the pick. That too gives me high school flashbacks to having braces :P
What model Southord tubular pick do you use Bill?
The 7-pin model.
I really want to see that camel lock opened please @Bosnianbill
I have bought a set of cheap ones to undo the lock on my snapon tool box a video on here shows it's the 7.5 size but I can't seem to open the lock ive opened other locks using the tool but can't seem to get it open any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks for the comparison
That Camel looks like the non filter kind.
Amazing
How can aquire a challenge to i am new to lock picking I only have 3 homemade picks trying to save some money for a set that is relatively affordable and will be worth the while but i was wanting to know if I can receive a challenge lock from someone in the community I wanted to challenge myself cause I really appreciate your time and effort in helping us understand the process of picking and I really enjoy these videos to say least
Bill, I agree that there is a flaw with the Klom picks, but the Goso picks are much cheaper than the Southord, in my opinion are of actually higher quality, and they work the same way as the southord with respect to the tension on the picking tines - there is a machined collet that can be tightened or loosened to adjust tension on all of the tines. It also has a very nice feature to zero the tool out - much better than the system utilized by either the southord or klom.
gosolockpicks.com/product/goso-7-pin-tubular-lock-pick
Listen to this man, he speaks the truth...
@@Twenty-fifthofMay1967 Bill definitely knows his stuff, but there are a lot of very experienced pickers out there without the name recognition Bill has attained (and rightfully so - his videos are excellent and instructive). Still, I think he would be the first to admit that, while very skilled, there are plenty of people out there far more skilled than he. In this case, the choice of tools is Bill's opinion. My opinion is different, and I also have quite a bit of experience. I'm not sure if Bill has tried the Goso picks I mentioned or not, so I mentioned them. Interestingly, LPL disagrees with both bill and myself. He prefers the very picks that Bill specifically mentions he doesn't like in this video, and specifically also mentions that he prefers them over the Goso picks that I like. Although I like Bill's content more, I feel very confident in saying that LPL is a better picker than myself and Bill. So this is one of those opinion things that is not a concrete answer.
Lock Fort-een
Hey Bill
FORTeen!
i'd walk a mile for a
Ah. So.
Review Tapplock One+
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how can i contact you?
have a question
You just did. What is your question?
@@bosnianbill You reviewed the SouthOrd PXS 14 Beginner's Lock Pick Set and I tried to comment there, but it didn't work. Just wondering if the kit works on European locks? If not, have you any suggestions on a good beginner set for European locks?
Yes, it will work on beginner European locks. For advanced locks you will need picks made from a thinner, more delicate material, like 0.015” thick or so.
Ok, thank you very much:)
I'm sitting here like why not just cut through the zipper??
😂😂
Probably a Master Lock of course. 🤔🤣
1 view and 1 thumbs up and 1 thumbs down?🤔
Bill I asked you about them not long ago. Southord was having a big sale for whatever holiday. You told me to just buy a set of the cheap ones?? Now few months later your doing a video saying why we should buy the good ones.
For occasional use, when you don’t mind a few extra minutes futzing around with the rubber bands, the cheap one works fine - just don’t get any oil on the shaft or it will NEVER tension right. If you are a locksmith, where every minute counts against profitability, spend the extra $ for the quick-adjust ability on the SouthOrd.
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