(1477) Unusual Master Model 1923 Zeiss Lock!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ต.ค. 2024
- In 1477 I look at an unusual lock here in the U.S., the Master Lock interpretation of what a Zeiss (or cross) lock looks like. As usual, you will be disappointed in some of their design decisions... Big surprise....not.
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Thank you lord for this easy pick I am about to receive
SOOOO right! I say this with EVERY master lock...😀
lolol
Nice! I’ve never seen that model before. 👍
I can send it to you if you'd like it. I've been picking my way through some of the locks that Bill sent to me a few weeks back & this lock was the first one I picked open!
Maybe they made it cross shaped because at this point they’re just praying for their locks to keep someone out?
Or maybe it's made to stop those pesky lockpicking vampires.
If you ever feel useless , just think that there is someone that get paid to design master locks
Or maybe they don't. That might explain the designs' pickability.
I wonder if Master has paid a televangelist to do an ad for this holy lock.
Might have better results if they pay him to say a prayer for the lock instead.
Looks like your cat won the battle, but you live on to win the war! 👍
Those cats win EVERY battle... 😀
First moments thought, "Wow finally a secure Master Lock", Few minutes later.... "What I was expecting..., It is a Master lock after all...."
Got to love Master lock for making things so easy for us pickers. Still a neat lock even from Master.
Very nice of Master Lock making that lock easier to pick. They didn't want to make it too hard to get in. After all, they have a crappy reputation (for the core) to uphold. Easy to shim, & pick, but it looks difficult from the outside, to the uninformed. At least it's more pins to pick. I want to get one, but its probably one of those things that Master only markets outside USA.
Master Lock is always so considerate to pickers. They're very nice.
I love master locks! Makes me feel like I really know what I am doing when I pick one in like 10 seconds. And that was my 2nd day ever trying to pick a lock.
It may be less secure than it could be, but that shape makes it immune to picking by vampires.
Vampires "can" only enter your House if you invite them in i mean a Masterlock is close to an invitation but it is not a spoken one so it shouldnt count :P
bill Rob from uk here u always amaze me with ur skill u and lpl are one of a kind. if it wasn't for u I wouldn't be popping locks left right and centre for fun.
Ok, now I'm convinced the Mastercrock designer is actually an undercover locksport enthusiast.
Absolutely right. I was being ironic.
I think the guy who designs them moonlights as a petty thief.
Is it possible someone could have suggested that lock NEEDS to be pickable? As a countermeasure against having to destroy the lock, if the user loses access? Granted, it's pretty stupid, but somehow it seems reasonable, at least to me... shrugs.
It seems Master Lock _believed_ that this keyway was better.
And I bet they're very _religious_ about meeting their "security" standards
At least by MasterLock standards it's a bit harder than usual
So kind of Master Lock to make it even easier to pick open. Instead of the usual 'Let's make this lock more difficult to pick' they seem to be helping make it easier.
Close shave on the left hand Bill. Stay safe!
I bet its a cat.
Started watching your video, immediately went to search Amazon for that model, no luck, saw how fast you opened it, was glad I didn't waste money. 😋😁👍
Very nice episode! I love seeing the alternate methods one after the other.
I love how you and LPL so politely roast the crap out of these lock companies
Talk about "innovation"... what a time to be alive :-)!
That's a first for me to see. It needs some divine intervention to make it more secure!🤓
I halfway expected something after first glance. Oh well, new master lock & here's 10 way to open it....30 seconds later & were all done. Thanks Bill. LOL!!!!!!!
#BosnianBill
I love that you have a pick that bears my name... sorry but it never gets old and I've even come to recognize it when you pull it out❤❤❤
The motto of this channel should be the same as Dante's inferno's: "Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch'entrate". To keep your stuff protected by a lock, that is. A note saying simply "please don't" seems just about equally effective at this point...
or a note saying "please do" would be slightly more effective.
Fascinating. Opening was inevitable but still fascinating
I know it’s a master lock but I still want to try that one. Of course I am a beginner so maybe masterlock should have said beginner cross lock. Happy pickings!!
Great video as always Bill
Master Lock going all religious. Maybe they said a prayer over it in the hope Bill wouldn't get it open. I think the only method you didn't show was the cross lock rakes, the ones that look like a key.
Nice one Bill for showing 4 different ways of opening this Master Lock👍🏻
Don't let the devil fool you. This won't keep your soul, let alone your lunchbox safe.
That cross would stop vampires, so count Dracula wouldn't be picking it in a hurry 😏
Thank you and
Happy Ester
Holy crap! That was fast!! Did I say you were good? You are blessed with talent! 😂😂
That keyway is an example of the marketing department having more clout than the engineering department. "Hey, I know! Let's make it look like a Latin cross. It has better visual appeal!"
Cross locks and lever locks with double side lever keys are the most common types of locks here in Argentina.
God I've been a subscriber for YEARS, can't believe your next mark will be 500k subs, well done :)
It was probably made for use in a church. LOL To prevent theft of collected money.
Nice video Bill.
Hey Bill I wonder if master lock designed this lock for a chastity Belt?😲😄🤣😅😂👌😁👍
master lock always thinks about what if you lost your key and gives you easy ways to open your lock in case of emergency's
Very interesting for Master Lock to use a cross lock design, I agree the key profile was modified slightly for religious/sales aspects. This however sabotaged a great security feature inherit in the cross lock, the tensioning issue blocking the pins.
What a shame..Master Lock tries so hard? Then sabotage themselves over and over..why?? Do they want to design a bad lock on purpose?! Honestly no clue!!
Lpl has a rake tool for cross locks which is faster than shimming too. I think it would be nice to use it on this one.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S A MASTER LOCK IT STILL LOOKS PRETTY COOL... NICE JOB....🔒🔒🔒🔒
I'd guess that the extended one leg of the keyway to intersect the edge of the core so that they could broach the keyway on the same kind of machine used for regular pin tumbler lock cores.
I just bought a work truck with a utility van body on the back, and in addition to the locks built into the latches, it has a mechanism on each side to lock the side compartments with a padlock or two, there are two holes. And as of now there’s a thing on the back doors to lock this with one too. My question is what locks are the overall best to locking up my tools and such. And on the back doors, would one of those puck lock type things be better? I don’t want to get robbed...
“The hardest part is maintaining tension.” I can just imagine it is super easy, barely an inconvenience with that extra leg. That is literally nothing but a tension crevice.
What a weird lock 😁
Well done Bill. Leave it to Master lock to make them easier
Master Lock strikes (out) again.
When it comes to finding innovative ways to pull the teeth out of security measures, leave it to Master. Accept no substitutes.
MasterLock. We make locks you never need to cut.
Brilliant Bill, wonder if my homemade cruciform bump/ rake key would pop it
Great job and video like always
Interesting concept, but executed in true Masterlock fashion. Im still convinced Masterlock created the "participation trophey" as they are the window-lickers of the lock world.
Looks like a cat scratch to me. Nice pick Bill, thanks.
Gonna find one of these and give em to a preist
Nice work Bill, that thing cooperated with just about everything you threw at it! Awful considerate of ML to provide that designated tensioner slot.. unbelievable.
Thanks Masterlock. A picker's friend
That cat picked you open good this time Bill.
They should rather keep the keyway in a curved paracentric cross format.
I was thinking it only had four pins period. One on each side.
Oh geez, I just pictured a lock with a cruciform keyway, but the cross twists 90 degrees (or more!) from front to back. The key would be similarly twisted. Good luck picking those back four pins when you can't get at them!
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*Holy* what a lock!
I'll see myself out...
I like this design
Great video!
Thanks Laster lock
These are relatively common in Mexico, I got the dimple version for USD $2 and I use it for the locker at work. I do have much better locks but all are key retaining and it is nuisance because I keep the key in the lanyard of my badge. Of course none of this is secure at all.
Lol. Master lick very considerate of the picker's plite 😎😎😎
Impressive
A plunge cut was avoided in the milling process.....master always compromises security to make just a little cut in production costs.
I was starting to think this had something to do with Easter. Watch that cat ...... maybe that cross cat protect you from the cat.
"What a great tool, what a crappy lock" - Amen.
They should really change their name to Master Unlock.
Wayne Randall or trainer lock
It is a slight improvement, I mean, with the cross design you can't just rake it in two seconds flat,
It isn't much, but it is master we're talking about.
I don't think that key would be all that difficult to use in the dark. Just use your thumb or index finger to locate the notch on the key and your other hand to locate the rainguard. Orient them to each other and your good to go. The hardest part would be finding the keyway, which would be an issue with any lock in a low/no light situation.
“I don’t know if they were trying to appeal to religious sales”-I died
And miraculously you're still here
Great video. I’m Building a challenge lock with a cruciform lock..💎👍🇬🇧
say what you will, I use it to lock my bedroom at night and havent had any vampire problems in months
What a odd master lock never seen one like this before.
Cool find just in time for the Easter bunny to leave one under the tree
Conceivably that extended leg on the cross makes it easier to manufacture, they can mill rather than broach more of the keyway. Whether that actually makes a difference in manufacturing costs, I can't say
Very cool info Mr.Bill
Have you been beating the Pussycat. 🦛
I have a Zeiss lock with the same kind of rubber guard. Maybe this is a Zeiss OEM lock sold under the Master brand?
I guess whatever method they use to manufacture the keyways in core blanks requires the keyway to come in from the side, and they can’t make one that is a solid cylinder with a cross missing from the middle.
Nice!
Holy lock. No holy pins. If there was some it would be impossible to open
A voodoo lock! Papa Doc is watching you...
It might be interesting to make a bump key.
Is that a circlip removal mark I can see on your hand ?
mark foth - I’m betting evil cat!
That's quite long for a cat wound.... If so, definitely an evil cat!
That's why nobody but Bill is allowed inside the Lock Lab! He fought off a ninja!
Different kinda cross lock, Bill.
Never knew that there is such thing as a Cruciform Master Lock until now. Probably not as good as an Ikon.
Great pick Bill, what a crappy lock but I would still like one.
Damn I want to have one of those...
How they are still in business is beyond me
I not a religious nut job, but that style key is what is known as a cruicform key. Along the same line of trash, those cheap safes marketed by Sentry Safe’s, guess who makes those?
Master Lock, they’ve been known to use cruicform keys on those, too.
Honestly the longest I've seen you picking a master lock. So at least they achieved that I guess.
Well you have to divide that time by four, as that's the number of ways to open it that was shown. SPP, zipping, raking and shimming it. And even then he spent a lot of time just looking at it and showing us it's "features".
So a bit less than two and a half minute per method...
Careful with the hands Bill! Make sure you get you some Neosporin...
What happened?
To broach a cruciform keyway they need to drill a hole first, so I bet they make it this way to save a few pennies in manufacture by using a more conventional progressive broach and remove the drilling step.
I think master lock designs their lock to be able to be picked. If you think about it and I could be totally wrong the main costumers of master locks don’t know anything about locks. This means when they lose the keys they might call a lock Smith to get it open. Not sure just thinking out loud.
Out of curiosity, is there a pick technique where you tension the lock, and deliberately overset all the pins, then gently reduce the tension on the bar, and let each pin slide down and catch the edge in the SET position?
Not sure but I have heard of "reverse picking" which sounds like what you said but it's for one pin
Hi BIll. As a follow of the efforts of Master locks (or lack of), I was wondering what you made of the Master 640D/640EURD padlock. Which is an unsprung spool pinned padlock?