I went straight into wildland firefighting after my last deployment to Afghanistan. It made the transition back into civilian world so much easier because I felt the same camaraderie and sense of purpose with my crew as I did with the Marines in my company.
Dude I got out in 2014 and struggled so bad. Felt like the world moved on and I was tossed into a surreal environment. Maybe because the last time I had to be in it, I was a shithead kid, then 8 years after and deployment after deployment I missed the same family aspect. Now we're in 2023 and it's been almost ten years and I'm starting this profession this year haha. Keep pushing forward man!
@@garrettgonzales3556 i feel that and have since 2010 when I got out and am also looking into getting into this this coming year! I'm trying to link up with the Veterans Fire Crew training through CCC but its been hard cause for most i am seeing cut off at 29!
Wow! Right on point! Pros: I get paid to have a vacation (I was in Glacier National Park for 2 weeks. No tourists!), brotherhood, achieving another goal from my adrenaline junkie mindset, boost in self esteem, mental clarity, visiting tiny towns, talking to locals, expanding my knowledge of the world. Cons: Coming back home to the ghetto. No benefits. Readjusting. All in all, I've found that people either love it or are constantly looking for a cell signal. Lol.
I worked on wildfires for over 30 years. I have had many qualifications. As I aged I let my fireline positions expire and transferred into a fire team (Washington Incident Management Team 1). I worked in Logistics Section. Plus as an Information Officer and Interagency Resource Representative. I was 68 on my last wildfire and am 71 now.
I love seeing a female wildlands firefighter! I am always hearing people say "you don't want to break the men's group" "being a female you will change the whole dynamic" "you will hold the team back", all of these things made me afraid to look more into it. You have helped me so much with my fear and now I am less afraid to apply and talk to people who do wildlands firefighting. Thank you for these videos!
Hey Tessa! I'm not gonna lie, it can be hard and you will more than likely run into those who don't want a female on the crew. BUT there are a lot of good guys out there that don't care if females are on the crew, just as long as they pull their weight. They'll be a good crewmate and help you in the areas you need because that just makes the crew stronger in the long run. I'm really glad my videos are helping you out!! That makes me so happy to hear! There are all female crews out there, but I don't think you should shy away from being on a crew with guys because you're afraid they don't want a female on the crew. It brings a good dynamic to the crew that is NEEDED!
I had the opportunity to work on a farm in Maui for this amazing woman who spent 30 years fighting fires in California. All of us guys looked up to her and she taught us so much. She was my first intro to wildlands firefighting and I still wanna be like her some day.
@@wildlandfirefit hi I’m trying to figure out how to start a career in wildland fire fighting I’m looking at different agencies federal, local, state and it seems daunting trying to find how to start an apprenticeship or get my foot in the door how did you start? Sending links will always be appreciated thanks like the video by the way.
I had a great time fighting wildland fire. I started on a hotshot crew a week after HS Graduation and and worked the next 5 fire seasons on hotshot crews. After I got my BS in Forestry, I was Foreman on a Helitack crew untilI I was drafted. After my two Army years, I worked for the National Interagency Fire Center as National Situation Coordinator for 3 year followed as state level Fire Management Officer for the Territory of Guam. I think my best time was when I was on the 'shots, the excitement when the alarm goes and we are responding code 3, the fire community, pushing myself to my absolute extreme, because of my personality being seen as a leader even though I didn't know it, and so much more. After 12 years of wildfire fighting, I responded to another calling, Catholic Priesthood. I graduated from a Catholic Seminary with a Masters of Theology and was ordained to priesthood for an independent denomiation. Eventually I was elected Presiding Bishop of the denomination. I had to resign when I became seriously ill.
I totally agree with suffering with your crew makes for the best memories hands down. a 36-hour shift and 75% of our crew getting heat exhaustion was mad wild last summer! but such an amazing memory. Grateful the fire dinner was so delicious. also got to pet a beagle from a dozer operator and refreshed our squad.
@@wildlandfirefit Honestly, the hardest part or only negative thing is growing bonds/making amazing friends and possibly never seeing them again after the season is over.
@@justinblake6543 ya, thank goodness for social media to be able to keep in touch. Do you fight fire around where you are from or do you apply to other states?
ty ty ty so much. im joining wildland firefighter team as a handcrew this year 2021. and you just explained exactly how im feeling, why im trying to do this job. you even made me cry, i could picture myself being in there and feeling how you were feeling. after you and your crew completed the job , then look the forest and houses behind you that you & the crew just saved .. how greater rewards can u you get
I am so excited for you!! It's going to be a crazy fire season so be ready and enjoy it!! Thank you for watching my video and for commenting, I love hearing from you guys! 😊
@@wildlandfirefit ty im very excited about this job im about to do. i feel like i wanna go right now . and yes im gonna enjoy it and my kids will be proud of me. i didn't know how wildland firefighters have been fighting wildfires every year ( im from California and every summers have been really bad with wildfires). you should be proud of yourself and i tip my hat off to all wildland firefighters .. ty all
I worked in a season in wildland firefighting last year, I really loved it but didn't think I wanted to do it long term. Now, after 3 months working in an office that I'm now quiting, I'm looking to get back in it fultime next season, good thing I refreshed my fire quals.
Appreciate your enthusiasm! Terrified of failing my pack test this week. I was 15 seconds short last week. I gotta get it because I'm stoked to meet this new challenge head on. 👩🏽🚒🔥♥️
You got this!!! Are you taking it with others or by yourself? Do you have a watch to keep an eye on your pace? Take it in bite sizes. Stay a little under a 15 minute mile and you'll be golden!! Let me know how it goes.
Another con definitely would be after awhile you start developing long-term aches and injuries. But the pros list is alot bigger! For anyone wanting to get into this linebof work I'd suggest them go hangout with a crew in the off season doesn't matter if it's with a shot crew or engine crews go to the station hangout with them PT with them ask questions.
Thank you this was very helpful! I got my red card with a private wff company in Oregon last year and am waiting to go out this season. I look forward to the hard work 🙏🏼
Love your attitude, you seem like such a nice person. I just applied as a tech/aid right now, wanted some more insight and this made me feel a whole lot better thank you.
I really loved my experience in wild land firefighting from 2007-2012 in CA and ID. The reason I stopped is because I had to finish my degree and they stopped with the STEP program where I could be a student and do it at the same time, not making it easy to be able to go to school and do both. I think the biggest pro is the team related efforts and boy do you get to know each other well! If you thrive on thinking critically and leading a team, you'll advance in the career. Con would be I missed A LOT of weddings, events, etc., because I had to head on a fire for a two week period of time. You can skip an assignment, but it definitely puts a kink in how the crew flows, because it's often times after to find fill ins. My social life took a tole and it's hard to balance a family & relationships when you're gone so long. However, I am A HUGE people person, so that's just me.
Thanks for making this! I've had my fire certs since 2018 but have only done small vollie work but soon I'll be starting with my states type 2 ia crew. I can't wait, I know it's gonna be a big challenge for me but I think it's something that I need to push myself through and really excited.
For me the biggest con was isolation which doesn't depend on the size of your crew. I started out working 120hr work weeks with days off often cancelled. I left a large organization for a small rural fire dept. after 14 years. Still going strong after 50 years. I work in logistics now.
Wildland firefighter is great i did inmate firefighter I would had love to have done it for a living best experience along hot shots and cal fire great people
Hey, my name is Joseph I’m in a Fire/EMS academy at my high school and I wasn’t sure what path I want to take I just knew I wanted to be a firefighter. I thought it was crazy there’s smoke jumpers and Wildland firefighting. I love nature I do thinks it’s cool and I don’t sacrificing my life for someone else. I’ve always had that mentality at a young age.
I like to do a muscle building program and work in some cardio to get ready for the season. I did a video on how to prep for the pack test. Hopefully that helps you! :) th-cam.com/video/Iup2cuWS_mc/w-d-xo.html
I really appreciate this vid.. and as a female haha. I start a WFM in literally a day. I worked saw in a conservation corp for 6 months so I feel pretty prepared (lack of comm, etc) but also anxious and nervous as hell since fire is so much more physically demanding.. thank u for the insight 🥺
I used to be a social worker for ten years because I wanted to help people. I hated it. Fell into fire on accident by winding up working the front desk at my local Forest Service ranger station during my transition period. They looked like they were having fun and thought I would try it. I was just mad I didn’t discover it earlier in life. It was truly the first time I was excited to get up and go to work. I loved the camaraderie, getting paid to be in the best shape of my life, and the adrenaline. I have a family so I figured I’d add my two cents from that perspective. The toll is real. You can’t make plans during fire season. If you do, a fire will pop that day, guaranteed. You will miss birthdays, and concerts and dance recitals. It requires buy-in from your significant other and frankly, your kids since you will be gone a lot. That being said, certain specialities are more conducive to family life than others. I worked on an engine crew which is primarily an initial attack resource, so you’re not gone as much as you would be with a national resource like a shot crew. It’s also easier to swap out with someone who might normally be on days off if your engine was going on a roll if you needed to stay local as opposed to a hand crew which travels as a single unit. If your overhead is supportive you can make it work. You won’t make as much money, but it was never about that anyway.
I love it!!! Thank you so much for sharing!! I have had a few people ask me how being in fire is while having a family. I don't have the experience yet but we did just start our family so I'll being going through that here soon. So it's nice that others can read your comment to help with their decision 🙂
@@wildlandfirefit Absolutely. On the flip side, having a job that’s seasonal has some positives too. There’s an ebb and flow that the family gets used to. Yeah you’re gone a lot part of the year, but then you’re home a lot more the other part of it than you would be in a regular office job. I had never done seasonal work before, and I ended up liking the dynamic.
Hey Ronni! Enjoy your information and the fact that your one of the only individuals out here putting information on here about wildland firefighting. I have a request though, whether its within your knowledge/experience base idk, but even if you could research with the people you know it would be greatly appreciated. Anyways, I just got done watch your wildland firefighting specialties video and especially incorrelation to what we see on USAJOBS with all the conservation agencies, I would like to know about the career pipeline/hierarchy of the wildland fire field? Like fire administration officers, fire planners, supervisors regional chiefs, career progression stuff like that! I have pulled up a couple pdf's for the federal and stateside agencies about this topic but would love to hear from where you stand being affiliated with it. So just a video on the jobs that you can attain(especially across the federal agencies) if you stay in it long enough and get the experience/education to move up the chain. I would love to know, so I can do this as a lifelong career field and provide for my family appropriately!
A good example is @smokey1255 's career in wildland fire. Where he ended up getting his bachelors degree and moving up in responsibilities and management while still doing what he loved.
Hey there! I'm glad you are liking the videos and info! I'll definitely do some research, ask around and do a video on that. It may take me a little bit but it's definitely going on the video "To Do" list! Thank you for the suggestion!!
@@wildlandfirefit Also, was doing some studying today, and was going to ask how long does it take to retire in a federal position? Like BLM, NPS, NFWS, and USFS? Is it different for staff level foresters that handle forest inventory or other conservation related needs vs actual wildland firefighters and management officers?
and as a fire kitchen supervisor feeding the firefighters. I was a carpenter supervisor at Cedar Creek Corrections Center in Capitol State Forest. After 6 years I went back to Engineering Division where first started. Because I had so much fire experience they kept sending me to more advanced fire training and dispatching me to more fires. I had many qualifications so when I retired my IQS records were 9 pages long. Some qualifications I had were: Crew Boss, Dozer Boss, Engine Boss, Felling Boss, fire kitchen supervisor and manager, Fireline Explosives, High Angle Firefighter, Liaison Officer, Incident Information Officer, Type 2 Food Unit Leader, and the list goes on. I was part of Washington Incident Management Team #1 for 8 years. I still get called to be part of a fire team of 50 to manage complex incidents.
I love the video! I recently found interest in this career and wonder what steps I can take to lead me in the right direction, especially as a freshman in college already!
"Embracing the Suck" is what Ronni is covering in much of her outstanding video. Embracing the suck is about 99% mental and 1% physical IMO. I would define embracing the suck as mentally overcoming and outlasting a challenging circumstance(s). The typical transient sucks are a few minutes to several weeks long. Like the obligatory too hot, too cold, embers down your neck, blisters, extreme fatigue, camp crud, oozing Poising Oak Rash, etc. The list is endless. How one acquires the skill is a mystery to me. Beginning about 4:30 Ronni states she grew up "sheltered" in a small town in Idaho. That must be relatively speaking because in my experience, thank God, no child grows up sheltered in rural "fly over" America. Perhaps Ronni was born with the skill? The "Suck" can present itself in wicked ways. Example from a real world event... Your into your third week on a "major ragger" in the American West backcountry. You have been working like Calvary across Division boundaries for days. The Spike Camp Manager is outstanding and has even bumped Spike up as you have progressed with line construction and containment. Late one day you and all the ground resources working that Branch return to Spike for the night. A USFS contract pack train (mules) arrives into Spike with "hot" chow. Big problem, the Food Unit forgot to include paper plates. Now what?
I have applied for programs seeking people for the summer which seems to be the “fire season.” Is this the case with you as well? If so, what do you do for money when your not firefighting?
Love the energy, curious as to how to get yourself started in this career path, fire school? Any academy recommendations? I just got out of high school and I need help😂
Hey Max, thanks! I created a free guide to walk you through the steps on how to apply mailchi.mp/305a43c8971d/ronni-ocampo-wildland-fire once you get accepted, they'll guide you through all the training you need
Not sure if you've done a typical "What do Wildland Firefighters get paid per fire season" and break that down per hour etc./ and touch on entry level to the most experienced people and what they make but that would be interesting.
it is a bad as job paid for my college, like you, straight out of high school. 1yr type 2 IA then 2yr type 1 IA then helirap 5 years while MSAR & structural then volunteen MSAR for 5 then body breaks down from injuries... Doc said no more! Saddest fucking day in my life. now i sit at a desk actually using my degree and just want those day back. it was never to be a hero. never! i feel like i was raised by the mountains and as a son i should protect them. it was hotshots type 1 IA that yea i love this drug. started rock climbing and mountain biking hard. broke bones which in the end brought the doc to say no more
I’m in my 30s and I’m looking to become a wild land firefighter for all the pro reasons and those cons are not cons to me lol. I have been in sales for 7 years and I hated every day of it. I had to leave and just got done taking care of my family for 2 years and sadly I have no attachments anymore. Any classes you would recommend taking before applying? Or should I just apply? Thank a lot for the video
First get in shape. Learn how to hike with lots of weight. Look at your local community college. Their should be a basic wildland courses it’s probably changed since I went through it used to be called a basic 32. Get your cpr card and psfa or Emt basic course helps.
@@Automage45 any time and good luck! One additional thing. Be prepared for all of your senior ffs to be significantly younger and even most of your company officers and leadership roles to be younger. It can be a tough transition of people of your age group.
Soo true! Best job ever haha some moments can be a pain but looking back like damn we’re such bad asses we did that! Especially the experience of doing & learning different things daily. The best moments have been in those rough times, Forsure brother/sister hood relationships go a long way! Have made many great friends from different crews I’ve been on or have met on the line.
Is being a wildland firefighter steady? Like I hear the word “seasons” so does that mean that it’s sporadic? Or is it like being a normal fire fighter, but just being in the woods? 😂😂
Just found your videos as I have been doing research on Wildland Firefighting. I currently am a Firefighter/EMT but it’s just not fulfilling the firefighter side and I have always wanted to do something with wildlife also. So my question to you is I live in Ohio, I have a wife and we don’t want to relocate but I do want to be a wildland firefighter, are there departments that will hire out of staters? Or do they all require relocation?
I'm from the Netherlands and I'm thinking of joining a handcrew(or if possible a hotshot crew, but i think that is less likely to happen). Do you know the possibilities of joining a crew for just one season? (if i like it offcourse for more seasons) I'm still a student here and I was wondering is this can be an option for me during the summer.
Hi! We actually have to apply every year for the job so you can definitely just apply for 1 season to see how you like it with no obligation for another one. There are permanent positions available for those who decided to make it a career but you can just apply for the seasonal job posts.
These videos are great. I really appreciate you taking the time to make them! I have one question. Are there any grooming standards when I comes to tattoos and piercings? Tia
Thanks Morgan!! :D I wasn't sure so I did a quick search an "Most fire departments only have a problem with visible piercings. Piercings under your turnout gear do not pose a safety hazard and will not be exposed to the public; hence, they are usually allowed. So, if you are a firefighter who wants to get a piercing, just avoid getting one on the eyebrows, nose, or tongue." I have my ears pierced but don't wear jewelry on the line, I just don't want to deal with it.
Unless a person has an entitlement mentality (too many ppl right?) the only con that I can see is the occasional long work hours for days on end which would be too much for many people even doing their best.
So I have been in the army for 5 years and have 5 more years left. I'm about to finish my degree in firescience and am thinking of moving to AZ. To be a fire fighter and possibly a wildland fire fighter. I'm 30 and still keep in good shape. Any advice?
That's great! They have vet crews (only in a few states) that you can apply for if that's something you are interested in. I have my fire science management degree as well, are you going through AMU for it? If you are wanting a full time job you may need to look at the age restrictions but if you just plan to do seasonal work there isn't an age limit (maybe it's different with contract work, that may be something you look into). What kind of crew do you want to be on engine, handcrew, shots?
@@DJPyro7600o heck ya then I say go for it. You can volunteer in the meantime while you are waiting for your enlistment to be up so you can get training and experience. Do you have any fire experience already?
This video is great! I agree with everything you said. This last summer was fucking wild to fight the forest fight but it was the dopest summer for me in my fire career! Also Peeing behind a bush is def in pro for me haha
Im enrolled for the online classes to take my S-130 / S-190 and the L-80. I’m super nervous and trying to take as much notes as possible but don’t know if they’ll even apply to the actual exam. Any tips on where to zero in or what I can do to ensure I pass? I really want to become a wild land firefighter I’m just afraid I might fail the exam and don’t know if I’m studying right or hard enough or if there’s other methods of study I can use besides jotting down all these notes. It’s an open book test yet I can’t seem to find all the answers. Any suggestions?
Hey Sheron, Unfortunately, I think the only way is to take notes. I know it can be a a lot of information and you don't want to miss anything but I find when I am genuinely engaged in the lessons I learn a lot more because it is actually an interesting topic and the info sticks better. I can't say what to focus on... it will all be important to know. Take notes, enjoy learning the lessons, and don't stress too much. Good luck, you'll do great! Let me know how it goes! 👍
I took photos with my phone of any pages I thought were important. You can also pull up the "study book" in a different window tab on your computer and look up each question as you go along.
Hey Analee! I created a FREE guide for you with some great info on how to apply for a wildland fire job and tips for standing out to help you get hired. Hopefully that helps! mailchi.mp/305a43c8971d/ronni-ocampo-wildland-fire
Is there any way, to join "volunteer"? I mean as a "normal" firefighter (in the US) and may some training in Wildland fire fighting? I would love to do that for a season (maybe more?) to gain some experience. The main reason why I couldn't"t do that as a job is that I am not a US Citizen. Every job description I find is only for US Citizen
It will largely depend on fire department. I'd definitely go to your nearest ones and ask them about thier program. You'd be abl to introduce yourself and it will give you some face time with them. Even if they don't accept you as a volunteer, they may know of a department that would. I did a quick google search and found a few answers as well www.quora.com/Doy-you-have-to-be-a-U-S-Citizen-to-become-volunteer-firefighter#:~:text=Yes%2C%20you%20have%20to%20be%20a%20US%20citizen.
I don't think it would be a deal breaker. You'd just really have to plan for your meals and snacks. MREs are standard but if you are on a big fire there may be catering.
I think it depends on your diet and your season. If you want to lose weight I'd say watch your food and drink intake (sugary drinks). It's really easy to eat unhealthy quick meals or snacks. Also if you have a slow season just make sure you are hitting the gym on your down time.
Hey Ronni I’m from Salt Lake City and I’ve been considering being a woodland firefighter for such a long time would you maybe like to talk over the phone about it I’m having heavy doubts and people are telling me I’m crazy if that’s alright with you I’d love the help and support
My plan is to do a Work&Travel in Canada and I would LOVE to work as a wildlandfirefighter. Do you think its realistic to get accepted? PS: I am a firefighter myself in my hometown thats why I have a small amount of experience in firefighting :D
The major thing holding me back right now is I don't wanna put my life on the line to save communities in Commifornia or weird ass Oregon lmao. If we had more forest fires in Florida where I feel invested as a citizen I could see beyond the other downside of being underpaid
Hahah you can apply to fight fire any where for the summer. You don't have to go to Cali or Oregon if you don't want. I know Florida does get fires, we usually send a crew out there once a summer to help out. A little thankful I haven't been sent, I hear the palmetto bugs are awful!
Yesss !!! I always tell people that you semi have to be a adrenaline junky and thrill seeker lol 😆 .. I just got emails from dnr from south and north region , looking towards this opportunity finally lol .. I've been on a engine crew and hand crew
My con was the strain on family and friends cause well 2020 was quite a first year. Also when your not on a fire you can only clean the station so many times so find something to keep you busy while waiting for that smoke check.
True, a lot less action. But if someone is going to the shots it could be beneficial to do just for one season to get that experience. Or would you recommend doing an engine crew then go to shots?
@@wildlandfirefit I've never been on an engine crew. But I've heard of being on a engine crew for five years then going on the shots. BTW I'm heading into my second..... season this year. (Being on a hand crew means 1-3 assignments tops) So basically I still suck 😀 lol Being on a hand crew was really a huge financial sacrifice.My bank account balance went negative. I'll certainly be more sensitive to anyone in a hand crew situation.
As a seasonal, I had to take a drug test at the beginning of the season as part of the hiring process. And as a permanent party, I'm sure you'd have to do it and they are subject to random drug tests. Anyone else feel free to chime in if you have a different experience.
I went straight into wildland firefighting after my last deployment to Afghanistan. It made the transition back into civilian world so much easier because I felt the same camaraderie and sense of purpose with my crew as I did with the Marines in my company.
I love that!!! I want to get on a veteran's crew so badly!
Dude I got out in 2014 and struggled so bad. Felt like the world moved on and I was tossed into a surreal environment. Maybe because the last time I had to be in it, I was a shithead kid, then 8 years after and deployment after deployment I missed the same family aspect. Now we're in 2023 and it's been almost ten years and I'm starting this profession this year haha. Keep pushing forward man!
@@garrettgonzales3556 i feel that and have since 2010 when I got out and am also looking into getting into this this coming year! I'm trying to link up with the Veterans Fire Crew training through CCC but its been hard cause for most i am seeing cut off at 29!
Wow! Right on point! Pros: I get paid to have a vacation (I was in Glacier National Park for 2 weeks. No tourists!), brotherhood, achieving another goal from my adrenaline junkie mindset, boost in self esteem, mental clarity, visiting tiny towns, talking to locals, expanding my knowledge of the world. Cons: Coming back home to the ghetto. No benefits. Readjusting. All in all, I've found that people either love it or are constantly looking for a cell signal. Lol.
“Constantly looking for a cell signal” had me rolling on the ground. Amazing.
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@@anonymouswoods Sprague? IDK. They all roll together.
I worked on wildfires for over 30 years. I have had many qualifications. As I aged I let my fireline positions expire and transferred into a fire team (Washington Incident Management Team 1). I worked in Logistics Section. Plus as an Information Officer and Interagency Resource Representative. I was 68 on my last wildfire and am 71 now.
I love seeing a female wildlands firefighter!
I am always hearing people say "you don't want to break the men's group" "being a female you will change the whole dynamic" "you will hold the team back", all of these things made me afraid to look more into it. You have helped me so much with my fear and now I am less afraid to apply and talk to people who do wildlands firefighting. Thank you for these videos!
Hey Tessa! I'm not gonna lie, it can be hard and you will more than likely run into those who don't want a female on the crew. BUT there are a lot of good guys out there that don't care if females are on the crew, just as long as they pull their weight. They'll be a good crewmate and help you in the areas you need because that just makes the crew stronger in the long run. I'm really glad my videos are helping you out!! That makes me so happy to hear! There are all female crews out there, but I don't think you should shy away from being on a crew with guys because you're afraid they don't want a female on the crew. It brings a good dynamic to the crew that is NEEDED!
I had the opportunity to work on a farm in Maui for this amazing woman who spent 30 years fighting fires in California. All of us guys looked up to her and she taught us so much. She was my first intro to wildlands firefighting and I still wanna be like her some day.
@@wildlandfirefit hi I’m trying to figure out how to start a career in wildland fire fighting I’m looking at different agencies federal, local, state and it seems daunting trying to find how to start an apprenticeship or get my foot in the door how did you start? Sending links will always be appreciated thanks like the video by the way.
@@BB-mq9qk go to your local vollie fire department they will put you through S130/S190/L180 and your red card pack test
Did you ever get a wildland firefighter position?
I had a great time fighting wildland fire. I started on a hotshot crew a week after HS Graduation and and worked the next 5 fire seasons on hotshot crews. After I got my BS in Forestry, I was Foreman on a Helitack crew untilI I was drafted. After my two Army years, I worked for the National Interagency Fire Center as National Situation Coordinator for 3 year followed as state level Fire Management Officer for the Territory of Guam. I think my best time was when I was on the 'shots, the excitement when the alarm goes and we are responding code 3, the fire community, pushing myself to my absolute extreme, because of my personality being seen as a leader even though I didn't know it, and so much more. After 12 years of wildfire fighting, I responded to another calling, Catholic Priesthood. I graduated from a Catholic Seminary with a Masters of Theology and was ordained to priesthood for an independent denomiation. Eventually I was elected Presiding Bishop of the denomination. I had to resign when I became seriously ill.
A real Johnny Sins
Do you have to be on a hot shot crew or can you be volunteering? I’ve seen volunteers but don’t know how that all works out.
Wow, your genuine excitement in listing the pros here is so contagious. Thanks for these videos, Ronni!
Oh my gosh, thank you so much!!
Thank you to all the wildland firefighters AND wildland firefighter support staff for what you do your work dose not and will not go unnoticed!!!
I totally agree with suffering with your crew makes for the best memories hands down. a 36-hour shift and 75% of our crew getting heat exhaustion was mad wild last summer! but such an amazing memory. Grateful the fire dinner was so delicious. also got to pet a beagle from a dozer operator and refreshed our squad.
See!! Things like that are so awesome!! I love hearing stories like that!! Thanks for sharing!
@@wildlandfirefit Honestly, the hardest part or only negative thing is growing bonds/making amazing friends and possibly never seeing them again after the season is over.
@@justinblake6543 ya, thank goodness for social media to be able to keep in touch. Do you fight fire around where you are from or do you apply to other states?
ty ty ty so much.
im joining wildland firefighter team as a handcrew this year 2021.
and you just explained exactly how im feeling, why im trying to do this job. you even made me cry, i could picture myself being in there and feeling how you were feeling.
after you and your crew completed the job , then look the forest and houses behind you that you & the crew just saved .. how greater rewards can u you get
I am so excited for you!! It's going to be a crazy fire season so be ready and enjoy it!! Thank you for watching my video and for commenting, I love hearing from you guys! 😊
@@wildlandfirefit ty im very excited about this job im about to do. i feel like i wanna go right now .
and yes im gonna enjoy it and my kids will be proud of me.
i didn't know how wildland firefighters have been fighting wildfires every year ( im from California and every summers have been really bad with wildfires).
you should be proud of yourself and i tip my hat off to all wildland firefighters .. ty all
Ronni I'm a big fan of you. I love how you explain things in the wildland fire world. Keep up the good work and videos
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that!!!
I just applied for a woodland job in Washington. Your videos got me sooo pumped!!
I worked in a season in wildland firefighting last year, I really loved it but didn't think I wanted to do it long term. Now, after 3 months working in an office that I'm now quiting, I'm looking to get back in it fultime next season, good thing I refreshed my fire quals.
Great job! I’m certain you’re honestly and enthusiasm will be the catalyst for many seeking employment in the sector! Stay Safe!
Thank you so much, I appreciate it!!
Appreciate your enthusiasm! Terrified of failing my pack test this week. I was 15 seconds short last week. I gotta get it because I'm stoked to meet this new challenge head on. 👩🏽🚒🔥♥️
You got this!!! Are you taking it with others or by yourself? Do you have a watch to keep an eye on your pace? Take it in bite sizes. Stay a little under a 15 minute mile and you'll be golden!! Let me know how it goes.
Another con definitely would be after awhile you start developing long-term aches and injuries. But the pros list is alot bigger! For anyone wanting to get into this linebof work I'd suggest them go hangout with a crew in the off season doesn't matter if it's with a shot crew or engine crews go to the station hangout with them PT with them ask questions.
Thank you this was very helpful! I got my red card with a private wff company in Oregon last year and am waiting to go out this season. I look forward to the hard work 🙏🏼
Congrats! It's going to be an active fire season this year!
@@wildlandfirefit Thank you! You be safe out there 💪🏽
@@RicoAdv3 you too!
Love your attitude, you seem like such a nice person. I just applied as a tech/aid right now, wanted some more insight and this made me feel a whole lot better thank you.
Thank you! I'm glad it was helpful
Cons that i have seen is the attitude between different organizations
I really loved my experience in wild land firefighting from 2007-2012 in CA and ID. The reason I stopped is because I had to finish my degree and they stopped with the STEP program where I could be a student and do it at the same time, not making it easy to be able to go to school and do both. I think the biggest pro is the team related efforts and boy do you get to know each other well! If you thrive on thinking critically and leading a team, you'll advance in the career. Con would be I missed A LOT of weddings, events, etc., because I had to head on a fire for a two week period of time. You can skip an assignment, but it definitely puts a kink in how the crew flows, because it's often times after to find fill ins. My social life took a tole and it's hard to balance a family & relationships when you're gone so long. However, I am A HUGE people person, so that's just me.
Were the wages worth it?
Thanks for making this! I've had my fire certs since 2018 but have only done small vollie work but soon I'll be starting with my states type 2 ia crew. I can't wait, I know it's gonna be a big challenge for me but I think it's something that I need to push myself through and really excited.
That's great!! I hope you have an awesome summer and stay safe!
@@wildlandfirefit Thank you!
If they did 2 of these 3 I’d join in a heartbeat.
-increased pay (significantly)
-better work life balance
-pension
For me the biggest con was isolation which doesn't depend on the size of your crew. I started out working 120hr work weeks with days off often cancelled. I left a large organization for a small rural fire dept. after 14 years. Still going strong after 50 years. I work in logistics now.
Thanks so much! I start August 9th with the Veterans Fire Corps!
That's great!! Let me know how it is!!
@@wildlandfirefit will do!!!
Wildland firefighter is great i did inmate firefighter I would had love to have done it for a living best experience along hot shots and cal fire great people
I'm glad you were able to experience it! It's such a cool job with awesome people!
I'm being sent to Tennessee for forestry conservation and fire fighting, originally from Texas and I am veterinary student
Hey, my name is Joseph I’m in a Fire/EMS academy at my high school and I wasn’t sure what path I want to take I just knew I wanted to be a firefighter. I thought it was crazy there’s smoke jumpers and Wildland firefighting. I love nature I do thinks it’s cool and I don’t sacrificing my life for someone else. I’ve always had that mentality at a young age.
what kind of training did you do to get to fit for the season? and what were the requirements you needed to meet to finally be able to start?
I like to do a muscle building program and work in some cardio to get ready for the season. I did a video on how to prep for the pack test. Hopefully that helps you! :) th-cam.com/video/Iup2cuWS_mc/w-d-xo.html
I really appreciate this vid.. and as a female haha. I start a WFM in literally a day. I worked saw in a conservation corp for 6 months so I feel pretty prepared (lack of comm, etc) but also anxious and nervous as hell since fire is so much more physically demanding.. thank u for the insight 🥺
Thank you for sharing this info about wild firefighters 🚒 I appreciate it very much ronni😎💪🏾🚒 I’m enjoying learning more about this job
Wildland firefighting is a calling no matter what the pros or cons are . If you don't want it more than anything else, it's not your calling.
I used to be a social worker for ten years because I wanted to help people. I hated it. Fell into fire on accident by winding up working the front desk at my local Forest Service ranger station during my transition period. They looked like they were having fun and thought I would try it. I was just mad I didn’t discover it earlier in life. It was truly the first time I was excited to get up and go to work. I loved the camaraderie, getting paid to be in the best shape of my life, and the adrenaline.
I have a family so I figured I’d add my two cents from that perspective. The toll is real. You can’t make plans during fire season. If you do, a fire will pop that day, guaranteed. You will miss birthdays, and concerts and dance recitals. It requires buy-in from your significant other and frankly, your kids since you will be gone a lot. That being said, certain specialities are more conducive to family life than others. I worked on an engine crew which is primarily an initial attack resource, so you’re not gone as much as you would be with a national resource like a shot crew. It’s also easier to swap out with someone who might normally be on days off if your engine was going on a roll if you needed to stay local as opposed to a hand crew which travels as a single unit. If your overhead is supportive you can make it work. You won’t make as much money, but it was never about that anyway.
I love it!!! Thank you so much for sharing!! I have had a few people ask me how being in fire is while having a family. I don't have the experience yet but we did just start our family so I'll being going through that here soon. So it's nice that others can read your comment to help with their decision 🙂
@@wildlandfirefit Absolutely. On the flip side, having a job that’s seasonal has some positives too. There’s an ebb and flow that the family gets used to. Yeah you’re gone a lot part of the year, but then you’re home a lot more the other part of it than you would be in a regular office job. I had never done seasonal work before, and I ended up liking the dynamic.
Hey Ronni! Enjoy your information and the fact that your one of the only individuals out here putting information on here about wildland firefighting. I have a request though, whether its within your knowledge/experience base idk, but even if you could research with the people you know it would be greatly appreciated. Anyways, I just got done watch your wildland firefighting specialties video and especially incorrelation to what we see on USAJOBS with all the conservation agencies, I would like to know about the career pipeline/hierarchy of the wildland fire field? Like fire administration officers, fire planners, supervisors regional chiefs, career progression stuff like that! I have pulled up a couple pdf's for the federal and stateside agencies about this topic but would love to hear from where you stand being affiliated with it. So just a video on the jobs that you can attain(especially across the federal agencies) if you stay in it long enough and get the experience/education to move up the chain. I would love to know, so I can do this as a lifelong career field and provide for my family appropriately!
A good example is @smokey1255 's career in wildland fire. Where he ended up getting his bachelors degree and moving up in responsibilities and management while still doing what he loved.
Hey there! I'm glad you are liking the videos and info! I'll definitely do some research, ask around and do a video on that. It may take me a little bit but it's definitely going on the video "To Do" list! Thank you for the suggestion!!
@@wildlandfirefit Thanks Ronni! Looking forward to it, and keep producing great content! 👊
@@wildlandfirefit Also, was doing some studying today, and was going to ask how long does it take to retire in a federal position?
Like BLM, NPS, NFWS, and USFS? Is it different for staff level foresters that handle forest inventory or other conservation related needs vs actual wildland firefighters and management officers?
I have worked on wildfires for over 30 years. I started with Washington State DNR. First with a 10-man inmate crew as a crew boss
and as a fire kitchen supervisor feeding the firefighters. I was a carpenter supervisor at Cedar Creek Corrections Center in Capitol State Forest. After 6 years I went back to Engineering Division where first started. Because I had so much fire experience they kept sending me to more advanced fire training and dispatching me to more fires. I had many qualifications so when I retired my IQS records were 9 pages long. Some qualifications I had were: Crew Boss, Dozer Boss, Engine Boss, Felling Boss, fire kitchen supervisor and manager, Fireline Explosives, High Angle Firefighter, Liaison Officer, Incident Information Officer, Type 2 Food Unit Leader, and the list goes on. I was part of Washington Incident Management Team #1 for 8 years. I still get called to be part of a fire team of 50 to manage complex incidents.
Keeping Boots has been my issue over my 5 seasons.
I love the video! I recently found interest in this career and wonder what steps I can take to lead me in the right direction, especially as a freshman in college already!
"Embracing the Suck" is what Ronni is covering in much of her outstanding video. Embracing the suck is about 99% mental and 1% physical IMO.
I would define embracing the suck as mentally overcoming and outlasting a challenging circumstance(s). The typical transient sucks are a few minutes to several weeks long. Like the obligatory too hot, too cold, embers down your neck, blisters, extreme fatigue, camp crud, oozing Poising Oak Rash, etc. The list is endless.
How one acquires the skill is a mystery to me. Beginning about 4:30 Ronni states she grew up "sheltered" in a small town in Idaho. That must be relatively speaking because in my experience, thank God, no child grows up sheltered in rural "fly over" America. Perhaps Ronni was born with the skill?
The "Suck" can present itself in wicked ways. Example from a real world event... Your into your third week on a "major ragger" in the American West backcountry. You have been working like Calvary across Division boundaries for days. The Spike Camp Manager is outstanding and has even bumped Spike up as you have progressed with line construction and containment.
Late one day you and all the ground resources working that Branch return to Spike for the night. A USFS contract pack train (mules) arrives into Spike with "hot" chow. Big problem, the Food Unit forgot to include paper plates. Now what?
You got me excited!!!
I'm excited that you're excited!!
I have applied for programs seeking people for the summer which seems to be the “fire season.” Is this the case with you as well? If so, what do you do for money when your not firefighting?
Would being from and living in Pennsylvania have to require me to move in order to work for a crew seasonally? Or would they provide housing?
Love the energy, curious as to how to get yourself started in this career path, fire school? Any academy recommendations? I just got out of high school and I need help😂
Hey Max, thanks! I created a free guide to walk you through the steps on how to apply mailchi.mp/305a43c8971d/ronni-ocampo-wildland-fire once you get accepted, they'll guide you through all the training you need
you sold me with the fist point LOL
Not sure if you've done a typical "What do Wildland Firefighters get paid per fire season" and break that down per hour etc./ and touch on entry level to the most experienced people and what they make but that would be interesting.
Ok thank you! I'll put it on the list!
Alaska that seems like that last place you would go to fight a fire
Oh really now?
th-cam.com/video/5AZFGntdI2U/w-d-xo.html
it is a bad as job paid for my college, like you, straight out of high school. 1yr type 2 IA then 2yr type 1 IA then helirap 5 years while MSAR & structural then volunteen MSAR for 5 then body breaks down from injuries... Doc said no more! Saddest fucking day in my life. now i sit at a desk actually using my degree and just want those day back.
it was never to be a hero. never!
i feel like i was raised by the mountains and as a son i should protect them.
it was hotshots type 1 IA that yea i love this drug. started rock climbing and mountain biking hard. broke bones which in the end brought the doc to say no more
I’m in my 30s and I’m looking to become a wild land firefighter for all the pro reasons and those cons are not cons to me lol. I have been in sales for 7 years and I hated every day of it. I had to leave and just got done taking care of my family for 2 years and sadly I have no attachments anymore. Any classes you would recommend taking before applying? Or should I just apply? Thank a lot for the video
First get in shape. Learn how to hike with lots of weight. Look at your local community college. Their should be a basic wildland courses it’s probably changed since I went through it used to be called a basic 32. Get your cpr card and psfa or Emt basic course helps.
@@napaindian62 thank you very much for the information!
@@Automage45 any time and good luck! One additional thing. Be prepared for all of your senior ffs to be significantly younger and even most of your company officers and leadership roles to be younger. It can be a tough transition of people of your age group.
Soo true! Best job ever haha some moments can be a pain but looking back like damn we’re such bad asses we did that! Especially the experience of doing & learning different things daily. The best moments have been in those rough times, Forsure brother/sister hood relationships go a long way! Have made many great friends from different crews I’ve been on or have met on the line.
What do people do after there done with wildland firefighting? Where can they go with there experience?
Is being a wildland firefighter steady? Like I hear the word “seasons” so does that mean that it’s sporadic? Or is it like being a normal fire fighter, but just being in the woods? 😂😂
In Florida, it's a full time job. 40 hour weeks. (+)
Just found your videos as I have been doing research on Wildland Firefighting. I currently am a Firefighter/EMT but it’s just not fulfilling the firefighter side and I have always wanted to do something with wildlife also. So my question to you is I live in Ohio, I have a wife and we don’t want to relocate but I do want to be a wildland firefighter, are there departments that will hire out of staters? Or do they all require relocation?
You can definitely find jobs that are seasonal that are out of state
@@wildlandfirefit okay awesome thank you so much!
So do you get paid for the 6 months off or how does that work?
I'm from the Netherlands and I'm thinking of joining a handcrew(or if possible a hotshot crew, but i think that is less likely to happen). Do you know the possibilities of joining a crew for just one season? (if i like it offcourse for more seasons) I'm still a student here and I was wondering is this can be an option for me during the summer.
Hi! We actually have to apply every year for the job so you can definitely just apply for 1 season to see how you like it with no obligation for another one. There are permanent positions available for those who decided to make it a career but you can just apply for the seasonal job posts.
These videos are great. I really appreciate you taking the time to make them! I have one question. Are there any grooming standards when I comes to tattoos and piercings? Tia
Thanks Morgan!! :D I wasn't sure so I did a quick search an
"Most fire departments only have a problem with visible piercings. Piercings under your turnout gear do not pose a safety hazard and will not be exposed to the public; hence, they are usually allowed. So, if you are a firefighter who wants to get a piercing, just avoid getting one on the eyebrows, nose, or tongue."
I have my ears pierced but don't wear jewelry on the line, I just don't want to deal with it.
@@wildlandfirefit thank you so much! I researched and didn’t find anything. I really appreciate you responding back.
@Morgan Boutwell no problem😀 I'm sure every department has a different policy so I'd just check with them if you are still concerned about it.
Unless a person has an entitlement mentality (too many ppl right?) the only con that I can see is the occasional long work hours for days on end which would be too much for many people even doing their best.
So I have been in the army for 5 years and have 5 more years left. I'm about to finish my degree in firescience and am thinking of moving to AZ. To be a fire fighter and possibly a wildland fire fighter. I'm 30 and still keep in good shape.
Any advice?
That's great! They have vet crews (only in a few states) that you can apply for if that's something you are interested in. I have my fire science management degree as well, are you going through AMU for it?
If you are wanting a full time job you may need to look at the age restrictions but if you just plan to do seasonal work there isn't an age limit (maybe it's different with contract work, that may be something you look into). What kind of crew do you want to be on engine, handcrew, shots?
@@wildlandfirefit I am yes going yo AMU. I would like to be full time. I have heard if you were in the army that can take off the age part but idk.
@@DJPyro7600o Oh I didn't know that, that would be great if so!
@@wildlandfirefit I domt fully know Its just the only thing I'm passionate about other that being an army CBRN
@@DJPyro7600o heck ya then I say go for it. You can volunteer in the meantime while you are waiting for your enlistment to be up so you can get training and experience. Do you have any fire experience already?
This video is great! I agree with everything you said. This last summer was fucking wild to fight the forest fight but it was the dopest summer for me in my fire career!
Also Peeing behind a bush is def in pro for me haha
Im enrolled for the online classes to take my S-130 / S-190 and the L-80. I’m super nervous and trying to take as much notes as possible but don’t know if they’ll even apply to the actual exam. Any tips on where to zero in or what I can do to ensure I pass? I really want to become a wild land firefighter I’m just afraid I might fail the exam and don’t know if I’m studying right or hard enough or if there’s other methods of study I can use besides jotting down all these notes. It’s an open book test yet I can’t seem to find all the answers. Any suggestions?
Hey Sheron,
Unfortunately, I think the only way is to take notes. I know it can be a a lot of information and you don't want to miss anything but I find when I am genuinely engaged in the lessons I learn a lot more because it is actually an interesting topic and the info sticks better. I can't say what to focus on... it will all be important to know. Take notes, enjoy learning the lessons, and don't stress too much. Good luck, you'll do great! Let me know how it goes! 👍
Take notes!!!!!!!!!! Bring a booklet and note it up! It’s an open note test so write shit down it also makes you look good.
I took photos with my phone of any pages I thought were important.
You can also pull up the "study book" in a different window tab on your computer and look up each question as you go along.
I'm a senior in highschool from Idaho, I hope to start doing this this summer. How do I get started? How do I apply?
Hey Analee! I created a FREE guide for you with some great info on how to apply for a wildland fire job and tips for standing out to help you get hired. Hopefully that helps!
mailchi.mp/305a43c8971d/ronni-ocampo-wildland-fire
Is there any way, to join "volunteer"? I mean as a "normal" firefighter (in the US) and may some training in Wildland fire fighting? I would love to do that for a season (maybe more?) to gain some experience. The main reason why I couldn't"t do that as a job is that I am not a US Citizen. Every job description I find is only for US Citizen
It will largely depend on fire department. I'd definitely go to your nearest ones and ask them about thier program. You'd be abl to introduce yourself and it will give you some face time with them. Even if they don't accept you as a volunteer, they may know of a department that would.
I did a quick google search and found a few answers as well
www.quora.com/Doy-you-have-to-be-a-U-S-Citizen-to-become-volunteer-firefighter#:~:text=Yes%2C%20you%20have%20to%20be%20a%20US%20citizen.
I'm working on taking classes for this, but would being gluten free be an issue or deal breaker in this field?
I don't think it would be a deal breaker. You'd just really have to plan for your meals and snacks. MREs are standard but if you are on a big fire there may be catering.
Embracing the suck is our engines motto
Question, and it might be stupid, do you lose alot of weight during fire season?
I think it depends on your diet and your season. If you want to lose weight I'd say watch your food and drink intake (sugary drinks). It's really easy to eat unhealthy quick meals or snacks. Also if you have a slow season just make sure you are hitting the gym on your down time.
Hey Ronni I’m from Salt Lake City and I’ve been considering being a woodland firefighter for such a long time would you maybe like to talk over the phone about it I’m having heavy doubts and people are telling me I’m crazy if that’s alright with you I’d love the help and support
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My plan is to do a Work&Travel in Canada and I would LOVE to work as a wildlandfirefighter. Do you think its realistic to get accepted? PS: I am a firefighter myself in my hometown thats why I have a small amount of experience in firefighting :D
is there any way if i were to join a type 2 that i could bring a good camera to capture some moments on breaks and at night?
Of course! You'd really have to keep it well protected and in a safe space though so it doesn't get damages by the dirt or being tossed around.
@@wildlandfirefit awesome thank you!
@@wildlandfirefit so for a type 2, how realistic would a sony a7iii be?
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What are the reasons they don't take you on.? Bad legs feet or health.
As a native american Indian n protectors of Mother earth. Fun n games do not belong on the line!!
How do you become a wildland firefighter in Canada?
I'm not sure. I've only done it in the US
The major thing holding me back right now is I don't wanna put my life on the line to save communities in Commifornia or weird ass Oregon lmao. If we had more forest fires in Florida where I feel invested as a citizen I could see beyond the other downside of being underpaid
Hahah you can apply to fight fire any where for the summer. You don't have to go to Cali or Oregon if you don't want. I know Florida does get fires, we usually send a crew out there once a summer to help out. A little thankful I haven't been sent, I hear the palmetto bugs are awful!
At the end of the day wherever you decide to go it will be what you make the best of
Yesss !!! I always tell people that you semi have to be a adrenaline junky and thrill seeker lol 😆 .. I just got emails from dnr from south and north region , looking towards this opportunity finally lol .. I've been on a engine crew and hand crew
My con was the strain on family and friends cause well 2020 was quite a first year. Also when your not on a fire you can only clean the station so many times so find something to keep you busy while waiting for that smoke check.
How did all that work out for you in the long run
Can you collect unemployment for the 6 months you're off?.,🤔
Don't join a hand crew.
No shame in it, but if you can
Avoid being on hand crew don't do it.
Not enough action at all.
True, a lot less action. But if someone is going to the shots it could be beneficial to do just for one season to get that experience. Or would you recommend doing an engine crew then go to shots?
@@wildlandfirefit I've never been on an engine crew.
But I've heard of being on a engine crew for five years then going on the shots.
BTW I'm heading into my second..... season this year.
(Being on a hand crew means 1-3 assignments tops)
So basically I still suck 😀 lol
Being on a hand crew was really a huge financial sacrifice.My bank account balance went negative.
I'll certainly be more sensitive to anyone in a hand crew situation.
The con is that you can put in over 100 applications and they can never "find" them. I guess you have to be male or know somebody.
Ah I am so sorry you've had a bad experience! Which positions were/are you applying for?
look for seasonal opportunities on indeed!
You need to create a USA Jobs account and upload your resume and certifications and search and apply desired locations
Consider cal careers as well
They don't pay enough
Agree
Do they care about people smoking Marijuana?
As a seasonal, I had to take a drug test at the beginning of the season as part of the hiring process. And as a permanent party, I'm sure you'd have to do it and they are subject to random drug tests.
Anyone else feel free to chime in if you have a different experience.
@@wildlandfirefit I hate drug test
As of today is present not sure if it reflects on SB-700 not sure if it still regulates on a federal level since it is considered federal employment
But the edits....driving me nuts. Can’t you do this in one take using a script?
Lol I try!!! I know I am TERRIBLE at editing.... I'm working at getting better! You have no idea how hard I try to get it in one take!