it's funny when he said Jack Benny made people around him a star, then he showed a video portraying Mexican people as a someone-wired people and incapable of saying more than one word at a time while Benny looking all suited up and smart. Some very interesting definitions of "Star".
Good points. I agree with most of what was said here. The one thing I question though, is what do you mean by “your truth” and “my truth?” To my understanding, what someone says or believes is entitled to them, but it can only be true or false (or possibly a bit of both). And it doesn’t make it their truth! It’s their opinion/belief/thought/idea. Just because it’s theirs (or yours or mine), doesn’t make it truthful.
I loved this but I honestly don't feel like he really gave his opinion on where the line is. Unless he means that its absolutely subjective and there is no real right or wrong. I mean I didn't like the Louis ck jokes but i honestly enjoyed the jokes that Marc Summers read off. I mean I like Cards Against Humanity and accept the "nothing's sacred" mentality of it, even as a Christian, but I don't like the jokes about people with mental disabilities. Also I don't find rape and jokes about child abuse funny either. As a Christian I believe that there is a way to poke fun at organized religion but not mental handicaps. But as a person who also has aspergers I love the jokes that are told because they are often stuff that I have done or seen of Aspies do.
I do wish though that he wasnt reading so much off the cards. i mean speech note cards are fine but when you start relying on them it becomes a little much.
He did specify the line. It’s up to the person, individually, not as a political correctness hate group shutting down things they don’t like. Live and let live.
Now it is worse than ever sir 😅 these people are being pampered and powdered on the behinds just for assuming a side of another person they don't even know yet or over exaggerating reality.
The lack of Mr Summers' empathy is astounding if not pathological. He seems to assume that everybody should endorse his doctrine of what is funny. Mr Summers can benefit by carefully studying 1984's 'Truespeak'. Exhibiting low taste in personal interactions is one thing. Whining because the public, at last, no longer seems to agree is a completely different story. Failing to recognise that WASP discourse , just like the speaker's, promote stereotypical reactions including police brutality and educational and occupational marginalisation is anathema to social progress.
I agree, being politically correct has become ridiculous. However, I do believe there is such a thing as being "too soon" or "over the top". For example, Louis C.K. joking about child molesters wasn't too bad until he got to "it must really be good....from their point of view". His stick was already getting uncomfortable. That part, and other bits and pieces, felt like he was tying his joke to the end of an anchor and kicking it overboard. That being said, I DO NOT believe anyone deserves to be fired for making a joke in bad taste.
What is worse, saying something controversial and possibly offensive or being censored and not saying anything at all??? It is a real shame that there are pages and pages on Y.T. of the karTRASHians, the Real Housewives, other reality T.V. shows, and a whole list of other unimportant nonsense while this page has very few comments on an important issue.....It says a lot about our culture.....
PC isn’t censorship. It isn't about taste or vulgarity. It’s not about never offending anyone. It’s about not punching down. PC is about not being abusive or hurtful to vulnerable people who don’t deserve it. It’s a civilizing force against brutishness. That some people are too sensitive about things that are personal to them is inevitable and irrelevant. Know your audience. It’s disingenuous to say that we’re too sensitive now when the reality is we weren’t nearly sensitive enough before. Those who complain most about PC today seem to be jerks who don’t like being called out for being jerks.
I can't agree with that Lisa Lampanelli quote: criticising non-PC comments is not the same as prejudice at all. The comedian has had the courtesy of being allowed to speak before an opinion towards them was formed. Prejudice in this situation would be making a judgement on the comedian's character based on them being a comedian - before they had even said a word. The comedian is being judged by their words and must accept people's right to take exception to it.
This talk is more relevant today than ever before.
Couldn't agree more with this talk. The voice of 90's Nick continues to speak in fluent rational truths.
And in a profession where free speech matters, it's important to speak against PC.
Interesting, well argued, plausible.
questionable, but can't deny that this is a talk that introduces some very interesting and good conversation and thinking.
it's funny when he said Jack Benny made people around him a star, then he showed a video portraying Mexican people as a someone-wired people and incapable of saying more than one word at a time while Benny looking all suited up and smart. Some very interesting definitions of "Star".
Good points. I agree with most of what was said here. The one thing I question though, is what do you mean by “your truth” and “my truth?” To my understanding, what someone says or believes is entitled to them, but it can only be true or false (or possibly a bit of both). And it doesn’t make it their truth! It’s their opinion/belief/thought/idea. Just because it’s theirs (or yours or mine), doesn’t make it truthful.
Blacks and Mexicans had to share a steriotype lol
I loved this but I honestly don't feel like he really gave his opinion on where the line is. Unless he means that its absolutely subjective and there is no real right or wrong. I mean I didn't like the Louis ck jokes but i honestly enjoyed the jokes that Marc Summers read off. I mean I like Cards Against Humanity and accept the "nothing's sacred" mentality of it, even as a Christian, but I don't like the jokes about people with mental disabilities. Also I don't find rape and jokes about child abuse funny either. As a Christian I believe that there is a way to poke fun at organized religion but not mental handicaps. But as a person who also has aspergers I love the jokes that are told because they are often stuff that I have done or seen of Aspies do.
I do wish though that he wasnt reading so much off the cards. i mean speech note cards are fine but when you start relying on them it becomes a little much.
To be fair he was a game show host for most of his career, maybe old habits die hard?
Hey, it took him like what, 1 season and change of Double Dare to memorize the rules of the game?
He did specify the line. It’s up to the person, individually, not as a political correctness hate group shutting down things they don’t like. Live and let live.
Now it is worse than ever sir 😅 these people are being pampered and powdered on the behinds just for assuming a side of another person they don't even know yet or over exaggerating reality.
The lack of Mr Summers' empathy is astounding if not pathological. He seems to assume that everybody should endorse his doctrine of what is funny. Mr Summers can benefit by carefully studying 1984's 'Truespeak'. Exhibiting low taste in personal interactions is one thing. Whining because the public, at last, no longer seems to agree is a completely different story. Failing to recognise that WASP discourse , just like the speaker's, promote stereotypical reactions including police brutality and educational and occupational marginalisation is anathema to social progress.
10:01 An episode of That's So Raven did something like this
I agree, being politically correct has become ridiculous. However, I do believe there is such a thing as being "too soon" or "over the top". For example, Louis C.K. joking about child molesters wasn't too bad until he got to "it must really be good....from their point of view". His stick was already getting uncomfortable. That part, and other bits and pieces, felt like he was tying his joke to the end of an anchor and kicking it overboard. That being said, I DO NOT believe anyone deserves to be fired for making a joke in bad taste.
What is worse, saying something controversial and possibly offensive or being censored and not saying
anything at all??? It is a real shame that there are pages and pages on Y.T. of the karTRASHians, the
Real Housewives, other reality T.V. shows, and a whole list of other unimportant nonsense while this page
has very few comments on an important issue.....It says a lot about our culture.....
They should have had someone with a sense of humor deliver this talk.
rheingoldlounge Marc Summers was a comedian before he hosted shows on Nickelodeon.
@lounge mmm I dunno, I’d say he has more sense of humor than most of Hollywood today
There is no political correctness. There is offensive speech everywhere. Offensive speech is not good for its own sake.
Then, why are innocent people cancelled on Twitter?
@@TamNguyen-wd4op Define innocent people
@@act4666 Innocent people that actually never did wrong things and sometimes get falsely accused.
PC isn’t censorship. It isn't about taste or vulgarity. It’s not about never offending anyone. It’s about not punching down. PC is about not being abusive or hurtful to vulnerable people who don’t deserve it. It’s a civilizing force against brutishness.
That some people are too sensitive about things that are personal to them is inevitable and irrelevant. Know your audience.
It’s disingenuous to say that we’re too sensitive now when the reality is we weren’t nearly sensitive enough before.
Those who complain most about PC today seem to be jerks who don’t like being called out for being jerks.
I can't agree with that Lisa Lampanelli quote: criticising non-PC comments is not the same as prejudice at all. The comedian has had the courtesy of being allowed to speak before an opinion towards them was formed. Prejudice in this situation would be making a judgement on the comedian's character based on them being a comedian - before they had even said a word. The comedian is being judged by their words and must accept people's right to take exception to it.
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