Whats Better Urethane or Reactive??
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- Packy get a true test of a urethane vs reactive ball with his new attitude and attitude control!
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The attitude. It seems like a heat seeking missile to that pocket.
Loved the original Attitude series, Although the reactive looks real close to what the OG reactive was, I'd have to go with the Control. You had a good look with both but the control looked like it would be right up my alley! Great stuff.
Reactive attitude for house shot. I had the attitude III (3) back in my youth days and loved that ball. Had my highest series as a youth with it and my first time with the front 10 when I was 16. Might have to look at this one for old times sake. Keep up the great videos Packy
Does the blue Attitude ball use the same core as the 1997 Tude2? I've had 1 since new & still use it on house & sport shots as I had my longest string of 21Xs in a row with it in 2004 going 300,236,300 after finishing prior gm with last 6 after I switched to it from a Stinger. I love the Tude2 & hope this can replace it? Thanks, Pack man!
When you showed the tight flare pattern on the control,.I got a bit excited. Been wanting something that flared like that for awhile.
it also depends how your drill it :)
@@benjaminkriebel3569 Certainly. And I know just the PSO who can lay it out for my style.
What’s your thought on the U Motion? I love mine. Most people do not.
7:50 i know this is old video but its happend to me everytime , why urethane go brooklyn, and i switch to solid reactive it go further and hit the rack nicely. I just so confuse , isnt it supposed to be the opposite? Help me someone.
That Control line looked super manageable while you loose that hard angle of the attitude you're still able to get all the revs on the ball in a straighter pattern, I think I'll be getting a Control for myself.
THANK YOU for showing all your shots.... so many posters only show strikes or only pocket shots.... whether pro, staffer or amateur.
Attitude but I like that control. I will be getting that Control to go with my purple and double cross
Let's go!!! Awesome vid as always, thank you! And look at that, closing in on 60k
Every since 1994 I’ve wanted a Brunswick quantum, think once I’m recovered im gonna buy one a hy-road *( never owned a hy-road either weirdly )* ,and I need a urethane ball for sport/PBA patterns probably end up with a storm Pitch Black I don’t want something that hooks a lot I want this for those really short low oil volume lol patterns around 32ft-36ft, it crazy how fast the 2014 USBC open pattern that was a 1:1 pattern broke down with just 4 guys and 12 games bowled first game up 1st arrow by the end of game 3 we were in front of the ball return crazy how fast those patterns break down I can’t wait to bowl again I’m close to Vegas and Reno now I might try a PBA regional or maybe the US Open eventually I was once good enough to go pro but back *( 1998 )* then it was expensive and my sponsor could only cover %50 of the cost and I couldn’t get another sponsor or cover the rest myself, I miss AMF balls and the ABC, USBC sucks in comparison
Attitude looked way better on house
Love the videos man. Also love dv8 balls... js. 😆. Keep up the good content
League 3 game set- Attitude (reactive)
Although I think the Attitude Control will be more valuable to you in tourneys.
As I've gotten older and lost a lot of speed, I'm throwing urethane more. I used to love the original Black Hammer back in the 80's. I gave it to a buddy of mine and I got the newer version now. I also got the purple Hammer now and like it. I recently got an old original Teal Hammer, barely used. I need to get it plugged and redrilled. Should be interesting. Love your videos.
Like you, I had a black ⚫️ Hammer back in the day and now throwing a 15 lb. purple Hammer and just bowled my highest series ever yesterday, a 670 scratch. I am still trying to understand all the new ball and lane lingo.
Definitely should be using the Attitude; it just seemed to have a lot of “area” to the pocket…
Would like to see a urethane comparison! Attitude control vs Purple Hammer vs Double Cross vs Black Widow Pink!
I like to go straighter with a softer hook, so i think i would pick the urethane :)
I’ve always been biased towards reactive. My first ball was reactive and I was never really able to “figure out” my urethane one
It’s just a shape many bowlers aren’t used to because it’s not often viable on house shots
Really it all boils down to how your eye perceives the shape. Jesper Svensson has stated on multiple occasions that his eye doesn't see reactive like it sees urethane, therefore he bowls better with urethane. I bowl best when I can play angle, but I've also taught myself how to bowl straighter. Most of the time urethane wants to be bowled with a lot of end over end roll as opposed to reactive, which when you throw it with a lot of end over end roll you limit the amount of boards it can cross.
@@shelovet0mmy Urethane can be used just as effectively on any condition THS or Sport. #banthemyth
@@remoevans7847 ok long-winded breakdown incoming. So one of the many things to understand about what urethane is knowing what it does to the lane. First the coverstocks are nonporous, meaning they dont absorb oil so it just collects on the surface of the ball. In combination with this, most of them have low diff cores and thus dont flare. This combination makes urethane create a lot of carry down on the back part of the lane. Of course as we know, with every shot thrown with any ball, including spares, the lane is changing. Focusing only on the carry down though, on a flatter sport pattern, the carry down that urethane produces can be good, as it creates more shape to the pattern by creating hold at the break point and further down the lane. This creates more forgiveness for misses inside. Now the exact phenomenon that can be used as a benefit on sport conditions, can be a detriment on house conditions. House patterns already have plenty of shape, and carry down to the outside part of the lane will actually make the lane flatter, because the inside and outside become more similar and lowering the ratio. While its certainly possible have a great look with urethane on both, it is not recommended on house because it makes the lane harder for yourself, your teammates, and anyone else on the lane as the night goes on. Over time there’s less miss room due to the dry outside part of the lane no longer helping wide shots recover because of the carry down.
Also i dont disagree that it can be used effectively on house, because my lefty friend averaged 239 for the entire season throwing urethane the entire time. But it was viable for him because he was the only traffic on the left side most nights and because his urethane wouldnt affect his teammates
I was so psyched when I saw what balls you were throwing. I had the Attitude 2 omg like 25 yrs ago. Loved it. Now I see Brunswick has come out with two new ones, guess a trip soon to my local pro shop is in my future. For you on a house shot Packy, it would have to be the Attitude. I know I speak for many on here I'm sure but WE would love to see a urethane shoot out with all your urethane's!!!!! Make it happen Packy
Attitude definitely for house shot. Looks very smooth.
As for Control, maybe move right a few and keep it in the oil a little longer. Should be good for a modified house shot where they throw a little heavier volume.
the ball was already hitting very flat. Moving right and keeping it further in the oil would probably make it hit even more flat.
On a real dry lane what is the better kind of ball
I love the reaction you got with the reactive. But after you flattened your lease with a forward roll, you were killing it with the Urethane. I think the reactive one would be better
Wow I'm here a year later, Packy is talking about 60k subbers but its at 129k now! cuz good channel.
the reactive one lookd way better and i just prefer reactive because i dont have great control throwing straighter
What is a reliable place for a reactive ball I never bought a bowling ball before
I bought the Attitude Control a year ago intending to use it when the lanes started breaking down on my senior league. Now I am pretty much using it all the time. I'm averaging in the high 160's instead of the high 150's. I probably just need more practice.
I now know why I enjoy your videos. Yes I’m a huge bowling fan , great shots buddy !
But you sound like Alan Alda !!! That’s what it is ! So nice
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I would roll the attitude control because of my low ball speed high axis tilt and high Rev rate
Regular attitude for me, haven't had much luck with urethanes (probably cause im a house shot bowler) but honestly the attitudes ball motion is absolutely beautiful.
I recently got the attitude control and I am able to use it very well on a house shot in League for all three games. I don't understand why some people say you can't use urethane effectively on a house shot when I see many people use it and do very well with it. Maybe it wouldn't work as well with people with high rev rates.
Flawless editing in the car!
No Brainer, the Attitude seems to be the best for the conditions that you were on. The Attitude Control, while looks good at times, seems to be more of a handful to control. Something tells me that you will not be pulling either ball out for the tour. I always see you rolling with the Purple Hammer.
Control for sure the attitude bight be a little snappy down lane
@@TheHouseBowling Hey Packy - Out of curiosity have you ever bowled using the "one handed syle"? Your two handed style is so smooth that it almost looks as though you are bowling the regular way. Left handed stroker has got to be one of the best combo's for bowling. I am a righty and have always liked the way lefties come off of the ball on release. You keep your release low and the shot looks like butter. Keep up the good work, there will be lots of titles waiting for your name.
My 1 haded is terrible 😢
Packy - it appears to me (scores aside) the attitude control was a little squirrley down the lane…to me the pick would be the attitude - having a more predictable reaction to relay on is always the way…great vid!
Attitude obviously. You shot 258 with the Control on that pattern becuase... Packy Good.
The reactive ball seems to throw the pins around more, but I’m a lefty urethane guy myself soooo…
Control!!!!!
I'm a Thane Guy
I would definitely go with the Reactive Attitude for the house or change the surface on sport patterns
Couldn't agree more!
Always take your Attitude to the bowling alley. Sorry for the dad humor.... So close to 60 k.
i would throw the reactive because i like to play more outside and the snap in the back is what i look for but for tournament conditions id go urethane
I have both a reactive and a urethane ball. My reactive ball is a Brunswick Igniter Solid and my Urethane ball is the Ebonite Puma. To me I like both types of bowling balls.
I like the shape of the Attitude better for u & myself not to mention that blue looks great going down the lane 😍
8:18 Did I hear that correctly? 😂
I rev my ball like a cranker but throw is on the slow side. 14.5-15 mph. Because of this I can’t get far enough left to get a strong reactive ball to get to the pocket. If I speed up Im not consistent. Urethane (purple hammer) is easy to control for me so that’s what I use. My only issue with it is it can sometimes it can hit flat. It doesn’t have that strong backend. Maybe someone could give me a good recommendation for a reactive I can control. For context I just bought my first reactive ball in many years and I choose the innovator by radical. I can’t get it to the pocket. Left every time. Is there something a slower throwing, moderately high rev player can control? I probably get near as much rotation as packy is getting.
Hammer axe.
I never use a urethane bowling ball because I have been using my rhino purple/navy/pearl reactive and I'm thinking of getting one which urethane do you pefer to buy
Purple Hammer if you have good rev rate, Black Widow Pink urethane if you’re rev challenged/speed dominate
@@remoevans7847 cool thanks man
Been wondering as I've no clue, whose image is that on Packy's jersey?
I came here to comment the same thing
My Grandfather founded and was the headmaster at an all boys school! Its the school mascot, The Chancellors!
That reactive ball is just poetry in the lane. It's just looks so good. So good.
League set on a house shot has to be the Attitude. I completely amazed you threw different balls back to back like that with a one pin difference. And Packy, 5 minutes from WSU to Northrock? You may need a new watch.
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@@TheHouseBowling😆 I never get that lucky wit the lights on Rock.
I've been using reactive pretty much exclusively in leagues and tournaments, I started using urethane a few weeks ago and I'm almost ready to ditch my reactives. I would pick the Attitude Control.
its a good urethane ball but nothing beasts the purple hammer... NOTHING!!!
Are lefties really effected by urethane? Like if there’s one or two lefties throwing urethane on your pair, what’s the best way to follow urethane as another lefty since it takes away oil from the heads and moves it downlane to create a wet spot where you need your ball to react?
Me I would probably throw the urethane it doesn't hook as hard or as much as the reactive.
I use studded snow tires for winter storms.
I use Urethane for hard sport patterns.
I don’t use my snow tires for the drag strip.
Time and place for everything…
Attitude!
Posting this before watching the video. Having said this, it is apples and oranges, you cannot realistically make any judgement because it is 100% dependent on what you are using it for.
What does it mean when a ball hits flat?
What is flair?
When a ball hits flat it means "for a lefty: the 4 pin would be laying in the gutter next to the 7" and flair is how much the ball tries to hook!
Me being a lefty, I would pick the Control, but the reactive Attitude looks better and gives you more room.
That Attitude looked good for a league set. Did you think it was too quick on the sport shot, even broken down? The Attitude Control scored well, but didn't look nearly as good going down the lane on the house shot, and it didn't look like you quite had it lined up on the sport, but knew where it would fit in your bag by the end.You said that pattern was 41/42 ft, right? but the balls were really reading earlier. Do you think that was just because of the heads?
This dude teleported
House shot on fresh oil.. Definitely reactive. I love a low flare urethane on dryer lanes! On a sports shot... I'm moving to a purple hammer to give me more control. Or a urethane that hooks a bit!
Pin up Purple on fresh HS and pin down Purple for the transition on the HS works fine for me. Also looks good on short sport patterns.
A urethane ball or balls I would like to see videos on here are the old faball blue and the other faballs.
I’d really like to see the blue tank compared to the radical spy. Both are mcp with cores in them so….let’s get r done 😀
Attitude is perfect on the house shot
If the lane was dry red one..normal conditions blue one..
I could watch slow motion strikes all day long.
Must of been raining.. you getting floods there?
Wouldn’t you use the urethane first to create a pocket for you then use the reactive to keep the pocket going
Attitude looked the best. The Attitude Control looked iffy!
Which Ball is the Reactive?
the blue one
I would leave them both at the house and use a purple!
I have only ever thrown reactive so i would pick the reactive one
hahaha
Attitude, waiting to Release date here and going to get it straight away
For a house shot I’d choose the Attitude
Where are the orange socks?
TACTIC CONTROL for the win!!!
I would go with the attitude because reactive just Carry’s better on the 42 ft house pattern
I would pick the “Dont wear yellow socks” Come on man!
Is the packy going to be at the 10k event in cbus this weekend
I wish!
@@TheHouseBowling well why not you could have just hopped a ride with Kevin Williams he's here he was bowling last night you're on fire Packy you should be here
Why didn’t we compare bw 2.0 and pu
PU?
Attitude!!!
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Attitude
more margin of error and saved energy just right
The Attitude 100%
A lot of attitude in this video
FIRST! CAN'T WAIT FOR THE SHOW PACKY!
I would say keep the Urethane in the bag.....bc we know you are going to use it more heheh..
Attitude no doubt
reactive
Attitude
The Blue ball was more consistent!
Give me reactive all day
Cool video talk to tech bowling ball Brunswick attitude control bowling ball with dot technology dynamic core technology in the bowling ball more strike and spare hitting power at time and the Brunswick attitude with dot technology and dynamic core technology in the bowling ball more strike and spare hitting power at time too ok the house bowling packey
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@@remoevans7847 yeah
Urethane
I'd go with the resin attitude for league night, especially if it's fresh oil. But as talented as you are I can see you choosing either way.
I've always had my highest games and series with Urethane. But I've always had my highest average with resin.
Side note I follow Ben Pettit's site. That 15 year old from New Zealand is going to be a good one. He was wearing a Packey Hanrahan shirt while making a video. I think you two must have crossed paths. Seems like a nice kid