2022 Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Pro | The New Face of Sport-Touring?
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Triumph have completely re-made their Tiger 1200 line-up and claim they have the BMW GS beat in most categories. But is that true? Let's go in-depth to find out how good this new Tiger really is. Review of the Rally Pro model coming soon.
00:00 Intro
03:45 Models
05:36 Riding Position
06:58 Specs/Tour
17:01 Acceleration
18:41 Riding Experience
24:53 Pros/Cons
29:36 Competitors
36:38 Final Thoughts
40:49 Bloopers
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You said you would not show all the details and rider options because that would be a six-hour video. You say that as if a six-hour motorcycle video is a BAD thing. Another great video. Your 100k subscribers is well earned and well deserved. Keep it up :)
Heh, my thoughts also.
Guess I'm to much of a gearhead....
Ian- DONT APOLOGIZE for saying it’s a long video - that’s why we are here!! Because you give us more than just a face value review!! I would watch them if they were an hour long. You don’t ramble- you take important care to not have unnecessary words. And I love the bloopers!!
I think your right on the money by saying we should look at this as a stand alone bike on its own. I've always likes the tiger 1200 due to the fact that it's different.
It's possibly banal, but I find the blue metallic colour simply beautiful. Thanks for the video, Ian.
One other thing these road-biased adventure bikes excell at is eating up bumps on less than perfect paved roads. They can comfortably maintain a respectable pace on roads the sport bike crowd wouldn't go anywhere near. Sadly here in California there are more and more roads in this category.
That's why I bought a Honda VFR 1200X after getting my wrists tortured on my Honda VFR 1200F.
You should see the roads, where I live: The Flanders(Europe). One does not even have to go "off road" to, actually, be "off road".
New Zealand as well😊
Loved the outtakes. It’s a reminder of how hard you work to bring this information to your subscribers and viewers. The effort, your attention to detail, the production quality and your precise presentation of excellent details are much appreciated! 🙏 thank you and can’t wait for information on the Rally Pro! Cheers!
Your videos can never be long enough Ian.Thank you for another incredibly comprehensive review comparing and contrasting the most popular adventure bikes.Your efforts provide potential buyers like me with information needed to make an educated choice.👍🏻👍🏻
Man, after watching the outtakes I quickly realized I would probably lose it making a video like that. Great job, lots of hard work!!!.✊️👊✊️👊
Thanks for this fine and nicely detailed video, sir! After 5 GSs over a 30+ year span and 45 years of Beemers overall, I’ve just pulled the trigger on a new Rally Explorer. Triumph has come so far since my first bike (RIP old Bonnie), and I am absolutely chomping at the bit to get my mitts on this! Your review and comments have confirmed that I’ve made the right decision. Just waiting on my tag and paperwork to arrive from my home state. Thanks! Count me as a new sub.
Ian, did you know that bmw sold over 60,000 pieces of pie last year?
I have a 2020 900 tiger rally pro. It's not perfect, but pretty close for the riding this 70 year old geezer enjoys. Love the stonking induction growl that comes up from the airbox when you give it the beans.
Congrats on the 100k.
It's very uplifting to hear from older men talking about how they ride these bikes, I'm just turning 60, freaking me out.
So I appreciate this 70-year-old gentleman speaking up here. Wow hitting the trails and the roads at 70, awesome!
Yours are by far the most thorough and useful motorcycle reviews on TH-cam. In addition to an excellent review, I really appreciate the spreadsheet you shared on the new Tiger line. I'm planning to trade a couple of my bikes for one of the new Tigers. Your reviews and the spreadsheet will be very useful in shaping my final decision on which model to buy. Thanks again for another great review!
Your closing comment about adventure bikes being the next evolution of sport touring bikes is 100% on point. I've been saying this for years myself. Great observation.
Rode the 900 Rally Pro at the IMS in TN and was blown away....this is that ++. Hit on their hands. Good review.
" I just can't seem to ride this bike slow" 😂 My same thoughts on my Multi V4S. 🤘. Great review Ian as always, cool to see how the ADV competition is stacking up and what they're bringing to the game and making the competition better
Congrats on reaching 100K subscribers. Another excellent review. Your reviews had a huge impact on which bike I purchased, (2022 GSA). Thanks for all your hard work.
Ian, the film quality and presentation of your video's is vastly improving. Thank you for this wonderful review. I'm not considering this bike but anything you review is entertaining to watch.
As usual Ian, a great review. I really love the reviews you do, and how you break everything down.
Congrats on the 100 thousand subscribers, well deserved!
Congrats on 100,000 subscribers. Your reviews are possibly the most thorough on the net so good luck and keep it up!
Congrats, Ian, on the 100K subscribers! Well done, your hard word and attention to detail are appreciated.
Thank you so much for your time. Absolutely the best review videos I could find. Test drives are uncommon where I’m from and sales guys are bias! I started with an open mind and with a wide range of options and your reviews helped me narrow things down to a final decision :). Going to buy next week !! Cheers ❤🎉
Once again a thorough and well presented, unbiased review. But I beg to differ from one of your final conclusions. You stated that why would anybody bother with a traditional sports-tourer when you can get a motorcycle like the Thriumph 1200 or the Bmw GS, for that matter.
I have to say first that i live and ride in mainland Europe where off-road riding is as good as impossible, we don't have large open spaces like the ones you can enjoy in the States or in Australia. Most of us stick to the blacktop. I use to ride a R1250GS, I know how good that bike is but I swapped it after 36000 kms for a traditional inline-four sport touring bike, a Ninja 1000sx and I find I do the same things with it that I did on a GS, weekends, evening blasts, the odd ride to the city or 4000 km motorcycle holidays. The GS is far better if you do two-up riding, which I don't and light off-roading, which I don't do either. For everything else I prefer a bike that is more compact, lighter, much lower and which is a more engaging ride. I changed my style of riding to suit the bike (no more using the leverage of the large handlebar to turn in), I use my body much more and I just get more rewarding sensations. That's the way I see it but I'm probably not very representative. Regards
The bloopers are hilarious. I love how you immediately looked down like you were reassessing your life choices that led you to this day.
Brilliant assessment! Having owned of several Gs's and Triumphs, they both bring something special to the party. Both are amazing bikes. I recently tested both the GT Pro and Rally Pro and they both blew my mind. And i totally agree, one should look at this Triumph as a stand alone bike.
Great job. I believe you are thee most thorough motorcycle introduction/orientation emcee. I'm without a nice street bike right now and your ride-cam was a great ride along for me. GOD bless.
You have some awesome roads around you ! I own a 2016 tiger 800 xcx and love it.. .I can't imagine how much better the new ones must be !
I am considering stepping into the ADV world from my current Honda Goldwing. I am a bit height challenged at 5’8 with a 30” inseam.
Years ago I owned a 2005 GS1150 adventure with and an aftermarket lowered suspension. It fit me great. After watching your video I am heading to my local Triumph dealer and try the Tiger 1200 Pro on for size.
Thanks for the informative video.
Btw… I am a bit jealous of your awesome house and it’s location.
Cheers!
I am new to your channel. You are one of the few I believe I can trust enough to buy a motorcycle based upon your opinions and reviews. I love that you are not afraid to crack the throttle in a test and that you offer your opinion about WHAT YOU WOULD BUY when comparing competition. - Keep it up.
I appreciate that!
I totally agree with comments concerning shaft drive v chain, however having studied the latest research from several different sources on O and X ring chains which indicated that any kind of oil on them shortens their life if they are used off road because the oil simply attracts dirt particles turns into a grinding paste, I now only use wax spray like Muc off dry lube which protects the outer links from corrosion but does not attract dirt particles nor does it mess your rear rim up. My local KTM dealer only uses wax and now having tried it off road on my 690 I will never use anything else. People do not seem to realise that a sealed O or X ring chain does not receive any lube inside the rollers anyway so the only point of oil is to prevent rust on the links which dry wax lube does without any mess at all on your chain and rear wheel. In fact I notice that the wax finish prevents a build up of dirt on the chain so it always stays clean.
I think I saw all reviews of the new Tiger 1200 here on TH-cam, but yours is the best; good in-depth technical information, good comparisons of the competition, honest opinion, giving it the beans and I all like that 👍.
I think a new GS will be revealed next september as a '23 model because BMW exists 100 years next year, so something has to be done me thinks.
Keep up your good reviews mate! Cheers from The Netherlands
Great Work Ian. Not too long, especially for someone trying to decide on what adventure bike to purchase. Cant wait for the Triumph Rally Pro review. That one has been on my list for a while.
Great review sir. I enjoy listening to your overall impressions of each motorcycle you ride. Keep them coming.
Congrats on the subscribers! I just picked up my brand new GT Explorer after trading in my Super Tenere. I only have a couple of hundred miles on it but you really nailed that review, pretty much my thoughts exactly. A bigger/wider screen would be nice and I do miss being able to adjust the shifter lever. Also I would like more info on the screen like the trip Odo and the tpms info. Maybe you can add it but I have not figured that part out yet. Amazing bike, and I love the seat, only done a 3 hour ride at one sitting and it was fine but time will tell. Oh you may want to blank out the speedo in future videos, never sure who is watching ;)
Congrats on the growrth of the channel, its really flying and all your hard work on the content is paying off.
Thanks a ton!
Excellent review, very thorough and relevant to real world riding conditions for those of us who favor adv bikes not so much for their off road capabilities, but more like upright sport touring machines. In that respect one of the best GTs I have ever owned was a 2000 Cagiva Gran Canyon (yes, spelled like that after the lawsuit from the National Park Service) and this new Triumph seems to have all the good that the Cagiva had + a nice long list of modern upgrades that tick all of the boxes in my personal checklist. Looking fwd to seeing/trying one in person thanks to you.
I'd love to see where you can get a comparably equipped GS1250 to my 1200Rally Pro. The $4k difference was a huge factor to me. And BMWs expensive dealer service costs. I like both bikes but I spent my money on Triumph this time.
im super exited about this bike cant wait to see how owners like it by the way I think this was one of you best put together vids yet keep up the great work
Ian, congratulations on not what you reviewed (which was terrific), but how you review. Impressive. Thank you.
What an amazingly comprehensive video. The final minute said it all and was the swinging point for me to choose the Triumph. Triumph with all the latest technology and the BMW so much older, which in itself is extraordinary to be compared so closely to the Triumph.
Tested the GT Explorer and the Rally Explorer and went for the Rally as the ergonomics were better for me. Still running it in but great so far!
Hi Ian my 2017 AT manual does that, now that I'm more comfortable with the bike I am able to enjoy it at low speeds thank you for your content.
Excellent review as always Ian!!!
Awesome review, i was on the fence, but this video has me sold!!
Solid review as always, I do appreciate the amount of time you put into these. I do like this bike, and it is probably my second choice, but my first choice is the Pan America but the thing holding me back on that bike right now is all the negatively about its reliability its crazy. I am holding out for a 2023 model and hope that have all the issues resolved.
My same hope for ‘24…
Great review man, really love the no nonsense detail you go into. Just a straight to the point honest opinion, love it.
Thank you for the great work. Your opinion and way of reviewing bikes is different and unbiased...
The buttons, turn signals, joy stick, even after a year I still fumble between the two. Wonderful review.
Strange how companies who made bad design decisions feel like they have to stick to them because they think the users got used to it and would prefer the same on new models.
Great vid, congrats on 100k, well deserved. I picked up my GT Explorer on Saturday…OMG it’s a great bike, certainly will be a BM GS killer…the weight reduction and handling is brilliant. The vibration is just not an issue…
Congratulations on your 100k. And great video by the way!
Excellent point I agree, this is the new evolution of the modern sport touring bike now. This is an amazing bike!
I like the music of the introduction: Matches perfectly well with the performance and beauty of the bike.
Just subscribed! I appreciate the honest comparisons and the “potential bias description” warnings. I feel like I could watch a video of yours and be informed enough to go buy a bike (or wait until the xxx brand refreshes this fall)
Congrats on 100k ! This bike looks and sounds fantastic! Not many bikes make me immediately want one but this one does 😆 Nice review
Great vid 👍 got the tiger rally pro 900 last year great bike, look forward to your 1200 rally pro review !!!!
Congrats on 100,000 subscribers! I loved the ride of my 2014 Triumph Trophy SE. A lot of similar experiences to your review. The negative for me was the weather protection. Way too hot for riding in the summer heat. Not sure if this bike is 10 grand more bike than the V85TT. NEED TO FIND A DEMO RIDE!
Great, well organised, detailed review Ian. It looks like a really cool bike to ride. Well done for the subscriber number ! Keep it up! I am really loooking forward to the Rally review. The only thing disappointing is that you did not include the Honda NC1100 in the comparison. In view of the price difference, I think it and the Afrika Twin would be included, if I were to choose a bike in this size range, even if they have slightly less power.
Fantastic review Ian.Honest as always.
Congrats on 100K. Watched your insightful reviews from day one. Goodbye GS hello Tiger 🏍💨😎
Just purchased a 2016 Triumph Tiger 800 XRT. You really do AWESOME reviews but as far as I can tell you either never rode one or never did a review? My 2020 Yamaha Tracer 900 GT was stolen And I chose The 800 Tiger to Replace it. After market luggage was huge as it has more capacity and lids open from the top vs. the sides. I will never purchase luggage that opens from the side ever again! It IS a Horrible design where when you get to New Mexico and pull over to get your Sandwich out you have to chase your underwear and socks through the desert. That luggage looks nicer but in practicality it totally sucks! I know you emphasize on off and on road. But your delivery is very concise and informative. You have so many videos you may have covered this already? But anything we can do to show newer riders that design flaw is gonna be appreciated by guys who tour.... Thank you Ian! You have helped so much to make buying decision. I didn't buy the bike you suggested but your advice helped me buy the RIGHT bike for me!
On your cheat sheet you say no cruise option on the entry level GT, it is available as an option here in Europe at least. Best review to date though with some great induction note audio.
I really think you got it right with the title. The GT and GT Explorer fit perfectly in a sport touring category. It's not the big all-road ADV bike like the Rally Pro or GS-A or KTM. It's not the same as the BMW RT or FJR type of sport tourers either. It really is in a unique spot. Maybe that is polarizing for some, but that just so happens to be what I'm looking for. I came from a Multistrada 1260S to the GT Explorer and the Triumph is so much more comfortable to me and user friendly. I have some nit picks with it, but that's every bike. Nice review and can't wait to put more miles on mine.
I hope you get the 1 million TH-cam play button soon. You deserve it. Congrats 100k 👏🏻👏🏻🥳
Hi, a new subscriber ! (from Brazil, Amazonas - "rain forest"). I've bougth a month ago a Tiger 900 GT Pro. I'm happy with the bike and your video is very nice to watch. Keep doing this great Job... Greetings!
awesome review, really informative. Do not think longer video a bad thing at all.
Well done on the 100K.
I rode the rally pro at the triumph offroad centre and really enjoyed it. By the way the comparison chart shows cruise not available on the GT, it is an option. I am looking at a GT with options i want and find it a fair bit cheaper as the GT pro has extras i dont need/want!
I too bought a GS triple black after looking at all the top contenders. Not only do I like the bike better, but the local dealer is heads and shoulders better than the others also.
Awesome review, as always! I just bought a 1250 GS Ralley, but the Triumph 1200 does look good!
Brilliant review! I bought a GT Explorer. I am now 6,000 miles in and it is a fabulous bike. Not my favourite bike, that is the Triumph Rocket TFC, but that is one of a kind. Great job Triumph!
Wonderful video, comparison, break down and honest opinion.
Keep it up ✌
I just rode the Tiger 1200 Rally Pro at the Touratech Rally. The Explorer model was not there. I own a 2021 R1250GSA so I compared the various features, ride and ergonomics. I found the Tiger to be a very nice bike, at least as much as you can see in a 20 minute ride. I found the joystick to be difficult in that you need to push it straight in to select and with heavy gloves it would be difficult. Also, with the explorer model coming in at a comparable price why would someone not by the original. I did like the fact that the 3 cylinder engine is a better feel and would probably fair better if you drop the bike than the boxer style. Thanks for another great review.
Congratulations for 100 k 👍
Thank you for this, as usual your videos are a huge help for me in the decision process.
Love your review videos. Very detailed. Thanks
Great review Ian, but I have to disagree with one of your final points about choosing this bike over a modern Sport Tourer. For primarily road touring on highway and twisties, it's hard to beat the R1200/R1250RT. Particularly for 2 up touring.
I really really appreciate the amount of work you put into this content. I almost never totally agree with you which should show you have well you do this.
Great review Ian. Thanks.
Another superb video review, Ian. Thank you.
I just picked up a 900 GT Pro. I live in Idaho where dirt mileage way outnumbers pavement. I’m of an age where I’m not going anywhere that needs the rollover advantage of a 21” front wheel. I mounted Dunlop Trailmax Missions and the dirt performance is all I need. And the 19” front wheel is a blast on the twisties . They’re crazy good bikes . If I was larger and younger the 1200 would be a no brainer.
great video!! thanks for adding the bloopers🤣
Very good information! People keep asking me why I chose the Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer. Lol....Now I can stop trying to explain and just refer them to this video.
Great review Ian. Having never owned a Triumph, I wonder about the long term reliability and maintenance costs of the Tiger 1200 compared to the comparable BMWs.
Congrats for another great video!
Just looked at TIGER GT Pro this morning do timing great thank you very much a great unbiased review. Very helpful. I am looking at the GS as well. Perfect. 👍🏍Paul- NZ.
Congratulations 🎊 👏 on your one million subscribers..keep of the good work.
I bought the Tiger 900 Rally and at 5'9" with the windscreen all the way up the wind goes right over the top of my dual sport helmet. I also have a hard time riding it slow, the bike wants to ride, its one of the best built machine's I've ever seen the weight is perfectly balanced, it doesn't feel heavy. I can't wait to get the 1200 GT Pro for my pure road bike. Who needs a sport bike, when a dirt bike, and a Tiger will cover everything I do.
Great review as always. I wish at some point manufacturers start refocusing more on weight reduction and simplicity. They also need to reduce valve check schedule (like harley did), we’re in 2022, hydraulic valve lifters that require 0 maintenance have been around for almost 100 years.
Completely agree, more reviewers should focus on the service element. I just paid a fortune for my 32K km service on the outgoing Tiger 1200 and the bill was eye watering. Great move by Harley on the PA, not enough made of that feature.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff 😂😂😂
Thats so true @speedytrip
Ya it's as They Strategically Plan For Making Gobs Of Money On Valves , it's Making Me a Little Ticked. Lol
@@bryanmathew2079 weight of the system and inertia are the issues on high RPM bikes plus costs. Harley have done a great job although they have let themselves down with a short service interval driven by something else?
Love the outtakes Ian 😉
Hi Ian, great comprehensive review 👍 Thank you
For me it has come down to how easy the bike is to lift after a drop. Dropping a 500+lbs bike is where the real adventure starts.
Couldn't wait for the Triumphs to arrive so I bought a '22 GSA/40years model. Watching your review made me wonder if I'd chosen the right one (but only for second or two ;- )
Truth is, the best solution would be to own both!
You were tearing up those twisties and getting nice and low. Sick riding!!
Another great review!!
Great review, love your channel
Slick, sharp and interesting, as always..... though I want an ATAS ES DCT. Keep it up, great work! 👍
Great review thanks. Regarding seat height, BMW have now introduced a whole range of height options (here in Europe) including one that actually lowers the frame of the bike so that even people just over 5ft can ride comfortably. Hopefully other manufacturers will do this.
A really nice video, good work!!!. Thank you very much.
Great review. You compared the Africa Twin 1100 to the GS...you didn't include that one. I finally got to ride the Pan Am at Laconia and WOW! Still haven't ridden the GS or the KTMSA, the latter of which is really something I just dream about.
Hi Ian, it would really be fun to hear a comp vs the 900 Tiger. Thx
Another good review Ian.
The best motorcycle & outdoor review channel on TH-cam! Congrats! (BTW, One quick question - could you compare reliability / dependability of these bikes? Your opinion of what's like in terms of $$ value in real-life ownership. Thank you!).