2022 Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Explorer | Sport ADV Touring Beast!
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The Tiger 1200 GT Explorer is the road oriented, long distance, fully loaded, luxury sports ADV tourer from Triumph. It even has blind spot detection and heated seats! How good is it? Can it take down the BMW GS Adventure?
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00:00 Intro
02:21 Riding Position
03:38 Passenger
04:28 Specs
07:09 Tour
10:42 Luggage
12:06 First Ride
18:13 Acceleration
18:40 High Speed Touring
19:47 Blind Spot Detection
21:44 Engine Vibes
22:58 Competitors / GS
27:21 Final Thoughts
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I was able to find your exact house on Google maps from this video. Not that you have anything to worry about, but you can't be too careful. I see where Big Rock came from ;) Love your videos!
This is how every motorcycle road test should look. The big motorcycle magazines ignore so much important information it's amazing.
Hi Ian. Just a note to say that it is really helpful to get the wife/ passenger input, both visually and her comments about fit and comfort and position. Many of us have partners who ride along, or, more probably, whom we would like to have along, so Maggie's contribution is unusual and excellent. I, for one, really appreciate it. She gives information that is missing from almost all other motorcycle reviews. Bravo.
Truly, the passenger experience segment you have started to do is really worth developing. Helps set you apart and is great, important info especially on the larger bikes. On the Triumph the extra brake lights are a wonderful add. More manufacturers need to put more emphasis on larger/more brake lights, and preferably decelerating sensors to flash the brake lights.
This right here. I have a z900rs and the engine braking is so much that I just got used to dragging the back brake when I'm stopping because only use the front brake to bring yourself to a complete stop.
I hate to ride with someone who has flashing brake lights. A cop n La. pulled my friend over for his. Gave him a warning. Said it had to go.
I just purchased an ex demo GT Pro, less than a thousand miles, less than a year old superb condition. Negotiated a heated seat, upper and lower crash bars, additional years warranty the deal was too good to miss! The BMW dealers (I also considered a GS) would hardly budge on their sticker price which I felt represented poor value when you take into account the anticipated launch of the new models in the near future.
Finally, your reviews on this bike definitively influenced me (I haven’t even ridden one yet), coming from a V Strom 1000 I’m certain it will be a perfect fit - thank you👍
I own the ‘23 Rally Explorer and love it! One thing I believe worth mentioning is how well Triumph has addressed the heat coming off the engine. My GS would bake me every time I stopped at a light, but I can’t feel a thing on this Triumph.
I’m 6’2” and agree with your comment about the wind screen inducing some buffeting..
I have over 6K miles and the engine does indeed get smoother.
Thanks for the review Ian.. awesome as usual!
Totally - I am addressing that in my T12RE review coming up - the side mounted radiators are brilliant
really? I felt the same thing when I test rode a 1290 Super Adventure. Coming from a Ducati, the engine heat broils me at stops. It's not even a good thing in the winter because it makes me start sweating and then I'm even colder when I start moving again.
I am very interested in this motorcycle. But I am concerned with wind buffeting. Is this something that can be addressed with aftermarket products? Have you changed windscreens?
@@kyleturner6829 Hi Kyle! Sorry I haven’t responded.. yes, there are several manufacturers that make wind deflection devices that’ll fit the Tiger. Triumph make one, but it clamps to the top, dead center on the wind screen, and I prefer to not have the clamp in the middle of my vision.
Info I’ve been looking for. Currently on an Indian Roadmaster and I could start my own hot pot restaurant off of it at a stop. It’s no fun to ride in the south east Virginia summers so I don’t put miles on it.
I own the 2022 1200 GT Explorer. It want to say that this bike is excellent for the daily commute, both the 10 mile in town and the 50
mile highway journey. This bike does it all.
Any vibration from the engine?
Bought a new Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer at the weekend. Absolutely love it. I am an ex BMW GSA and KTM 1290 Super Adventure owner and this thing pips both for me.
Excellent review Ian and very informative. I'm in the UK and seriously considering getting one of these. Those wide twisty roads seem to go on forever over there - motorcycle heaven!
thank you thank you thank you... finally someone is including some decent passenger/pillion reports! I know Zach Courts includes a brief statement from his significant other, but you are actually showing how the passenger fits on the bike relative to the rider.
Need someone to articulate gross weight for motorcycles. I have a tough time finding if my 2 up weight is within the bikes limits on anything smaller than a Goldwing
I bought the gt pro, after 4500 miles I can only say it rides and handles sooooo well , its not top heavy at all and I'm only 5.6ft tall seat in low position , you can ride it like a sports bike and it will reward you with a glowing smile , well done triumph l say 😀
Totally agree
Best review of this bike I've seen so far. Thank you. Easy sub!
For a larger sport touring/adventure bike, I think Triumph has nailed it. Very nice bike with functional tech that riders can use. Nice review, thanks.
Thank you for review. I may pick this up on monday well see. Much appreciated
Just found this channel and I love it. Great review 🙌🏽
Thanks for this review Ian. I'm struggling with choosing between this and the GT pro and the Versys 1000, but after this, probably leaning hard to the Explorer. Keep up the good work.
I love both bikes... GT Pro is way to go.
Really nice bike!
Very good presentation man!
I enjoy your videos!
Keep up the good work mate!
Awesome review. I did not know about this bike. The shaft drive is very desirable IMO. Thanks for this.
Hello Maggie and future camera operator baby 🤗❤️ long time subscriber over here howdy howdy 🤠❤️ eagerly waiting and looking forward for that rally explorer review 👌🏼 good job by the way ian 👍🏻❤️
One of the things that Triumph gets right all the time is carrying capacity - the previous generation was 224 kg, this one is 222 kg, 6 kg above that of the GS but 8 kg less than the MultiStrada. I have the 2016 1200 XCA and, yes, everything everyone says about it being top heavy is 100% accurate, but once you're loaded up and moving, it's such an incredibly comfortable touring bike even on the twisties.
Your review has solidified why I have bought the GT Explorer and I agree with your sentiments including the pillion view which my wife also agrees with. Just need some better weather here in the UK to finish running it in!
Have done around 10,000 miles on my GT - almost identical to the one in your excellent review. Fantastic machine - love it! Only bettered by my Rocket 3 TFC (but that thing has no peers).
Highly recommend the Triumph Explorer GT!
I owned a 2014 Triumph Trophy SE. It was an amazing sport touring motorcycle with semi active suspension, cruise control, electric windshield, and all day comfort.
I also have a Trophy SE. I have purchased, but not yet taken delivery of a 2023 GT Explorer. My primary motivation is weight reduction. The Trophy has been incredible, but as I age, it has started to feel pretty heavy. It's not an adventure bike, but as an open class sport tourer it is hard to beat. Switching from comfort to sport when I hit the twisties is transformative. BTW, in my very brisk touring primarily on two lane highways in the mountains, I consistently get 48-52mpg on regular gas. Time will tell if the Tiger wins the battle as a replacement. I hope to post an answer soon.
Great review, thank you!
I really do love the subtle flexing with the different high end jacket every video, go off Ian, show us the drip. So good 😂.
Great review. I'm a Tiger 1200 RP owner and I agree with everything you have said in both reviews. I basically don't buy a bike these days until I have a chance to see you weigh in on it. I very much trust and value your opinion.
Thanks for sharing
i made a test drive and i found a great machinne. I have a GS with 110000km and i liked a lot the ciclystic of T1200. However, the clucht ratio for first, second and third gear i found very short. Very different from the GS....and this caracteristic linked to the torque in low rotation i like a lot and its very diferent in tiger 1200 that have a more sport motor. One more great video....very complete.
Quality review as always 👍👍👍
Best bike reviews on the tube. Greetings from Greece
Thanks! 😃
Got myself a Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer. Loving it so far. Full of character and BACKLIT SWITCHGEARS. Apart from the stalling issues, its better in every way.
Have a Rally Explorer myself, and just had a software update to cure the stalling and cold starting issues. And, it seems to have cured it
@@davewash50 Nice, I will be bringing it in to my dealer soon regarding that issue. In the meantime, the "fix" at least for me, is turning off shift assist.
@@edwinchoo1511 that is interesting. Have heard that before on some forums. best of luck
Great info for my research! Ty
Another great review. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the in-depth review! Awesome review!! I currently have a 2020 Super Tenere. Love it! But looking for something with more tech and a bit more power.
That left-hand switch gear is busy. But being illuminated is awesome. I wish other manufacturers would take the hint, BMW and Honda I’m looking at you!
Super Film👍
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Thank you for all your hard work you do for us. With all these new A D V bikes we can buy.
Also more Maggie Please. So cute when she got on the bike and slapped your shoulders.
And said I am on. outstanding.
XD warmed my heart.
Love ur work Ian. Have you ever done a review on the Super Tenere. Keep it up we Riders out here appreciate Ya.
Coming soon!
Thank you for the great video. They are the best out there. I’m riding from St. Louis to Prudhoe Bay next year. I’m having a hard time choosing between Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer and GS Adventure. 90% highway, 10% hard pack gravel. If you were doing same trip, which would you choose?
I love triumphs but cause they re too top heavy for me never bought one. Love the sound engine makes and in addition there was a thing where you could control your GoPro from the screen couple MYs back. It’s a great bike overall and as you said Ian, it’s for more experienced riders no doubt. Riders that ride far and with lots of weight on their bikes. Great review once again Ian.🤘👏👏
Agree. For me add the vibration. They are just not very smooth, and I'm sensitive to vibration in my hands. For 200 miles no problem, but for long days 800-1000 miles, my hands need a smooth engine. I enjoy Iron Butt sanctioned rides and long distance touring.
I was seconds away from asking what gloves those were and I saw you had it in the description. Gained a new subscriber. Without further investigation into your channel, any input on the gloves as an adventure riding glove?
Great review Ian. I love it when you have your wife and daughter come by and yes, like everybody else is saying, SO valuable having your wife as the passenger on there to see how one fits. I always consider my passenger for every bike I buy. Good job. PS. I live in SoCal and am getting my first ADV bike (Rally Pro 900) and will likely be getting same gear as you since I'll be doing much the same riding in same climate and areas. I just have no clue what to buy so I'm looking at all your gear you're wearing lol. I wish you'd do a run through or better yet, suggestions for everything..boots, jackets pants, helmets etc... Yeah I"m a newbie for ADV riding.
Rev'It Sand 4 suit for SoCal weather - love it. Klim krios Pro helmet. Sidi ADV boots.
@@BigRockMoto Oh man. Thanks so much Ian! Super helpful!
I drove this bike last June at the Touratech Rally in Plain WA. I own a 2021 BMW R1250GS Adventure. I found the Tiger to be very nice although I only had it for 20 minutes and it was not the Explorer Rally which is the direct competitor to the GSA. The pricing is comparable to the BMW all in with hard luggage so I’m not sure if I would pick this bike over a well seasoned and proven machine.
Debating purchasing this bike and maybe trading in my Triumph trophy SE. it’s a huge bike up close and when you’re sat on it. But when I look at my Trophy it’s just has smoother lines unlike these ADV bikes. Another awesome reviews Ian 👍👍👍👍
Go for it!
Hey Ian, thanks for the great reviews! Can you compare your Klim Induction Pro and Baja S4 jackets sometime?
Triumph is working hard on closing the gap to a company that defined the ADV market decades ago. I think that’s worthy of recognition. It’s slowly coming to a point where it’s just personal preference and willingness to spend for brand. As far as ability and capacity of ADV bikes go - 99.9% of all riders/owners will never get close to maxing out their bikes. We run out of talent long before the bike runs out of ability.
I'm going to take a look. I don't really need a new bike but this and the 1290 adventure s seem like nice upgrades to me.
The big gap in Triumph dealerz in EU market make me choice all the time BMW no matter what they could improve in this bikes. Big thank you to this channel for all amazing reviews.
Went to test the 2023 BMW GSA. The sales guy asked if I ever rode the Tiger. I said I heard they were too heavy. He pulled them both out to test. After riding them both I need to say I was undecided about the GSA. Went back the next week to test again, walked out with a Tiger Rally Explorer. Added top case and panniers.
It’s always interesting to me when a buyer has two close competitors creating a choice dilemma and subsequently a debate on who’s is doing it better. The truth is, even the esteemed BMW GSA has a big aftermarket for improvements. No one bike is perfect for all.
I’m 6’4” and for my purpose the Tiger is awesome and so far is a boatload of fun. Also my cost of ownership appears to be very low. 10k/annual services.
Did you enjoy the RE more than the GSA in corners? Congratulations and happy miles mate🙌🙌
@@awesomeagnihotrisvlog I’d be lying if I said yes. Primarily because I only tested the RE and not the GT Ex. The RE has that 21” tire with off road bias, so by design it’s not going to take twisties with the same aggression. I was fine with the compromise, because one hour on dirt road and the RE was magic.
BMW is the direct target for Triumph and not such a bad aspiration, the only 2 with the front fender beak, even the gas cap is the same. They have done an excellent job of engineering a bike that is the same but different and I am sure lots will choose it. The build quality is superb, you are getting what you pay for. I chose the GS because I like the torque of the boxer. These really are the only choices in my estimation simply because of the shaft drive. Super T when Yamaha re-does it will be in there too, it’s just long in the tooth compare to these 2. Thanks Ian, well done as usual.
Triumph has come a long way since when I owned a 97 Sprint.
Ian
Mine was the first in the USA! YAY! Love the bike. I traded my previous 1200 Tiger XCX for the new one back in March. Had to wait until late July. I love the all red lights in the rear but they are only legal in the USA. I love the character of the new T-Plane engine! I have the MRA X-Creen wind deflector on mine and it is the best. I can ride with the windshield all the way down and the wind is 2 feet above my helmet. Nice video Sir!! Quality stuff man.
Peace
enjoy the bike!
@@BigRockMoto I already do! Thank your Sir! It's amazing.
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Very nice video. I love the Triumph brand. However, for that price, I think I will be sticking with my Versys 1000 LT SE+. 6K cheaper and the bags come standard. Plus it has a true key! I am not a huge fan of keyless machines. The Triumph has a ton of bells and whistles, like blind spot indicators, but I still don't know about the price difference. Also, the rear tire is odd. the Versys has a 180 which seems better for the road and the goal of what the machine is made to do. I have owned a Triumph and will probably have one again in the future, however, it will not be the GT Explorer unless the price drops 5K. Keep up the great work. Your reviews are well worth the time to watch.
I just traded my Versys 1k SE LT+ in for one of these. The dealer took $6k off MSRP so it was a no brainer. No more chain drive for me.
ahoy! Great sounding bikes, these Tigers. You mentioned the Super Tenere.. Is there any posibility to review that often overlooked beast? :)
yes
Have a 2016 Explorer XRT and I love the bike. At some point I would consider this bike, but the seat height is too high. I’ve put the low seat on my 2016 and it brings it down to 820mm. Previous low models eliminated the center stand and that’s something I won’t accept. Being 5’9” and 73 years old I need to flat foot for confidence. Triumph makes wonderful bikes and I can attest to the reliability. Nice job doing a thorough review.
I love the area where you live, it's very beautiful.
The bags btw are from Givi trekker outback made for triumph.
Thanks Ian you have sold me.
I really love my 2021 900 GT Pro. This one is to expensive and big for my 173cm small size. The suspension en 3 cilinders are really nice :)
This is such a great review format! I appreciate all of the effort you're putting into these reviews Ian. I own a 2018 AT which I think looks good, but the Triumphs styling is just about perfect for this class of bike. I definitely need to test ride one. Oh, and those lighted switches; why aren't the other manufacturers doing this? It's such an obvious feature.
Once again Ian, another excellent review… I would prefer that the manufacturers stop or at least limit the over saturation of electronic gimmicks…. The vast majority of these sales gimmicks are very rarely used with any regularity.. cruise control for the highway droning community may be the only exception… blind spot detection?.. that now raises the level of absurdity…which is approaching @$30k out the door with luggage…and with a dealership network akin to Aprilia…virtually non existent…
There is a reason as to why the T7 is virtually impossible to find on a dealer showroom floor…
As a suggestion, please consider expanding your review criteria to more affordable ADV bikes for those “less fortunate” … such as the “off brands” : Benelli 502/702/800TRK or the CfMoto 800MT…
Sense the Triumph tiger 1200 is not for shorter riders. What is your thoughts on the tiger 900:gt low for shorter riders ? I know of the BMW 750 gs for shorter riders! Thank you for always giving incredible reviews on new motorcycles and gear!!
Very similar to the Yamaha super tenere 1200. Best motorcycle I've ever rode !
Just test rode today. I'm 6'3" and set the seat to the highest position. My knees tend to keep hitting those radiator exhaust ports....otherwise it was very comfortable with the seat in the higher position for my 240lb size.
Another great review, I hope you’ll be testing the Yamaha MT10sp 😉.
I bought a GTX1200 last week. It’s n the shop gettin the clutch checked out. I could gas it and the tach would hit 9k rpm before I could let off. 350 miles on it.
After 2500 miles I traded mine on a 2023 GSA. I could not stand the vibration in the bars, pegs, and mirrors. If it didn't vibrate, I would still have it. There are 3 right now all with under 1k miles at my dealership. They were all traded for the same reason. I guess it bothers some more than others. The transmission in the Tiger is far superior.
Most of the vibs went away on mine after 4 or 5k miles.
Thats a shame, the vibes die down when the bike is properly broken in. It actually feels faster with 10k miles on it
i like your channel your reviews and honest feedback, but why didn’t you review the KTM 1290 adventure vs bmw gs ?
I haven't been able to get a 1290 for review
excellent review. Is there a long term reliability review in the future?
no, because this is a press bike, I don't own it
I just can't take the look of the bags. I know they've been all the rage for years now, but let's move onto bags that match the lines of the bike.
I would love to buy this bike in the future over the BMW 1250 GS.
Omg your daughter is so cute!!!! Lol nice to see the family!
How about more “used” bike reviews? You have done guides on the 1000cc Africa Twin and discussed the KTM 790/890, how about the previous Tiger 800 line. More of your insight and detailed guides for bikes for some of us looking in the used market to find good options?
One of the aspects I think you missed is the approachability of GS vs the Tiger for shorter riders. I am unhappy they missed out on a low suspension version like the previous gen. Both the GS and GSA low susp low seat accommodates the shorter rider. I am 5’3”, inseam 28” and spend an entire day with the GS and GSA with no major issues.
Good point!
Great review! I am very interested in this motorcycle. But I am concerned with wind buffeting and weather protection. Is this something that can be addressed with aftermarket products? This is my ONLY hesitation in not pulling the trigger and getting one.
Not an issue for me Kyle. I'm 6'2'' and have no issues. I have the GT Explorer - screen is simple to adjust too. Pull the trigger!
has a rowdy sound to it , id love to ride one not my kinda thing to purchase but would love to ride one
That bike is definitely quick. Even in explorer trim with hard luggage.
Curious, upper weight feel comparison vs a gsa, your thoughts?
Ian is the engine exhaust too quiet? I’m a firm believer in being able to hear the engine to be in tune with what how the bike is performing.
Do these high compression engines adapt to riding with low octanes abroad? Problems with riding in the altiplano at 4000meters high? Maybe a short video about this could be interesting. You'd have to investigate, not just ask manufacturers, regards, good job.
Is it the same electronic suspension that’s on the Africa Twin Adventure Sports? Looks very similar
Can you touch on the thing that concerns me the most, Triumph's long term reliability? 50,000 miles to 100,000 miles out? Especially compared to Japanese makers. Ive had 2 Super Tenere's with over 120,000 miles combined and zero issues. This is the only reason I've never bought a Triumph or BMW.
my old tiger explorer (2012) has almost 100k km (62k miles?). No problems at all. Just maintance.
Spot on Ian, the only thing I will add is that I am about 2 inches taller than you and I find the stock windshield is not very good, I get a lot of wind noise. It does help to move the screen down (yes down not up to the max) a bit to get better airflow but I will still have to get something taller from the aftermarket. Oh and if you use the My Triumph app you have a built-in GPS.
I’m 6’. I packed out the top two bolts of the screen with 15mm spacers. Increases the angle and got rid of the buffeting for me.
@@daveo9844 thanks for the tip, I will have to give it a try. So basically you put washers in the top bolts and that moved the screen forward?
@@mikemills5144 Top bolts only. You could use nylon spacers (one piece) but I used M6 rubber washers (though it’s an M5 bolt) and started at 15mm. Someone else went 20mm .
Very good looking machine. Love the integrated turn signals/brake, backlit switchgear! Luggage looks like Triumph branded Givi Trekker Outbacks, have them on my 1250GS fantastic panniers. But I wouldn't buy it, Why? I can't stand that 150mm rear tire. Put a 170 on it Triumph let's go!
I currently own a 1050 Tiger and the 1200 sounds very to close to perfect. The only thing that seems just a little odd to me is the tall gearing. That just seems odd for a bike that is torquey, but not super torquey the way large displacement twins are.
I saw an ADV version that only had a soft top box. It sure looked perfect to me, but that hard top box seems like it would be nice for a pillion.
I wasn't aware you could have red turn signals. Very interesting.
I think you're the only moto reviewer who talks about knee bend. It may seem like a small issue but if someone is tall having a cramped riding position is a big deal.
That’s a smooth looking bike! Tough call vs Beemer. Which has more soul, a Twin or Triple?
A VERY compelling bike but I wouldn't give up my GSA for one. On the other hand, I certainly wouldn't mind owing BOTH of them.
One question i get on my PAS the same way the jiffy stand,sidestand knacks extremley ( i have a good bmi ) i am told not to do this from my Harley Davidson dealership as the stand is only fixed with 2 bolts are they wrong will it break? thanx in advance any help would be nice.
Thank you for your review. But didn’t you find the gearbox problematic in terms of finding Neutral? Because I am very close to buy a 1200 GT Explorer and 2 different bikes I tested were having one of the worst gearboxes I have ever experienced! It was almost impossible to find Neutral and I have changed more than 65 bikes… Only one other TH-camr mentioned it and I would like to hear your honest opinion, especially after driving all 4 models. Thank you in advance and keep making great reviews!!!
triumph recently sent recall kit for gearbox, they updated the tensioner spring and its fixed neutral gear shifting issue
Great review. One question, if you had only one bike would you choose this one, or the Tiger 900?
The 900
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I need to ride a Triumph, Suzuki and Africa Twin. One of those has to be the best in class.
I have a africa twin 1100. I really love the bike! So many add ons! However, buttons not back-lit, seat little uncomfortable and not heated! Too heavy for proper off road! I'm thinking of trading her for something like a triumph or bmw gs or maybe a tourer like k1600!
That 13.2:1 compression ratio sounds insane. Does it require 93? I know my bike with 11.0:1 needs 91.
Obviously need to revisit this in a year to see Tiger sales numbers. I am sure if it will be of no major concern to BMW.
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Schaff, who does raw sound onboard videos, recently did one of the Triumph 1200 bikes and kind of hated it. He puts a short text review on the bottom. Said basically these have no area at all where they're better than the Ducati, BMW or KTM. Seems legit, honestly. A comparison test would be hard for you to do as a single tester, and it would probably make at least one manufacturer upset when they lose, but there is something to it that all these bikes seem great in isolation, but when back to back tested there are deficiencies to be uncovered. If I'm dropping 25k on a bike, I want to get one that is the best and won't shit the bed for resale like some brands.
I saw that video too, seemed like he was trying to flog the thing through the twisties like a sport bike, which also gets to the question as to what is the intended purpose of the bike? Also define “best”. Bikes are highly subjective and include a multitude of considerations…maintenance costs and intervals, dealer availability, parts costs, resale value etc.
Saw that video too, and Schaff was definitely on some strong shit that day 👌 he's complemented much shittier bikes, so the things he said about the Tiger were completely out of pocket. The Tiger is one of the best ADV out there
Do you have plan for testin ktm 1290 Sas?
Hi Ian, very nice video. Triumph makes a motorcycle that looks very good....However, the Reliability, Cost to Purchase and Cost of Ownership are a Big, Big problem...I live in Alberta, Canada. My best friend bought a new 2021 Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro in 2021. He put 3 hard bags on it, engine guards, skid plate and it cost him $25,500 out the door. By comparison my new 2019 Yamaha Super Tenere ES that I bought in 2020 with the same accessories was $17,500 out the door. In approximately 18 months of ownership he has ridden 22,000km. In that same time I have ridden 35,000km on my Tenere. In the first 18 months of ownership his Triumph has spent about a total of 4 months in the shop being fixed cause its always broken. Lots and Lots and Lots and Lots of Computer problems! Engine lights on, Limp mode, Quick shifter failures, Cruise control failures and the Bike dies for no reason, repeatedly. I now have 52,000KM on my Tenere and not one issue. The Quality of the Triumph Build is also a Big problem. At 20,000 km he had to replace his front/rear sprocket and chain. By comparison on my 2014 Vstrom 1000 I rode 42,000km before doing my sprockets and chain and rode that bike 68,000 trouble free km's before trading it in on my Super Tenere. Also, at 22,000km he developed a bad left fork seal leak necessitating the replacement of the fork seal. Replacing that fork seal cost $1000. By comparison I rode 68,000km on my Vstrom 1000 and did nothing to the bike and I have 52,000km on my Super Tenere and have done nothing to the bike. Triumph motorcycles in Canada are CRAZY Expensive to service to maintain the warranty. His Valve checks are due every 20,000km and with an oil change and service was $2000. By comparison my 2019 Yamaha Super Tenere Valve checks are every 40,000km's and with an oil change and service was $550. In the first 18 months he has spent about $4000 on regular maintenance to maintain his warranty + the cost of repairs that weren't covered . A Triumph motorcycle really is a rich man's motorcycle. Thank god he bought an extended warranty...he is going to need it. His 2021 Triumph 900 GT Pro is such an unreliable bike he will be selling it this summer and go back to a Japanese motorcycle so that he can actually ride it. It's disappointing that the dealer didn't tell him that buying a Triumph Motorcycle was like buying a Ferrari for maintenance costs or that they were such unreliable motorcycles. Anyways....Keep up the great work on your videos, I really enjoy them and ride safe.
What about the engine noise, is it quiet than the BMW GSA or no?
I have the 900 gt. How do you compare the vibrations between the two?