I built my own wood boiler and used 3/4 pex insulated with pool noodles to pipe the water. It was super cheap. The real issue with the boiler is the firewood. It is time-consuming and hard labor to cut.
Yeah it sometimes can seem over whelming. But look at the bright side. Pros always out weigh the cons. I’d rather do some work than pay someone else for my laziness.
I appreciate the video I currently have an older mf10000 wood boiler and I love it. It is 10 yrs old and was thinking about going to a gasification Stove so I've been trying to learn the differences in them. Thank you.
You won’t be disappointed if you made the transition. There’s a learning curve to them but it’s not hard to run. Dry wood is the biggest thing. The rest is easy. People over think it. Any question feel free to ask.
I have a outside traditional multi-pass wood boiler. Currently heating hot water only. Three kids two adults. My breaker is turned off to hot water tank it’s electric. I have to feed my boiler, but that’s by choice. Can’t be lazy. Price of electric jumped big time here where I live. Guessing $75 a month electric bill savings. Last winter first time operating a wood boiler. Like you said a little learning curve and a lot questions to friends. Bottom line I love it,I will never go back to a normal wood stove. Great video.
It’s literally the best purchase I think I have ever made. All my expectations were met. And yeah the saving is nice. Little work but well worth it. Def happy I kept it going all summer long.
Nice setup. Wood stays dry. You stay dry. It’s a win win situation! I don’t know why anyone that has one of these boilers doesn’t have it in a building.
Yeah it’s the perfect set up really. I’m protecting my investment. And yeah who wants to be out in the elements filling boiler and or if something needs to be replaced you are out of the elements.
I like your setup in the shed with the roof and the concrete slab. I am planning out a property with home and shop and would like to heat with wood. Did you have to deal a lot with insurance companies with having the outdoor wood boiler in a semi indoor space? I'm sure I would have to deal with my insurance provider for my own unique situation but wondering how much of a hassle, if any, you had. Thanks!
My particular boiler is certified to be indoor or inside a building. So it was not an issue at all. Best decision ever. Keeps you and the machine out of the elements. And you can keep your wood close and out of the rain or snow.
I have a g4000 im about to fire up for the first time. Im very interested to learn it all and get the first year under my belt on what works and doesn't. I wish the guy who installed it was more helpful on teaching me.
Congrats on your new stove. Your going to love it. Don’t over think it. It’s pretty easy. I have a lot of videos on my boiler that should help. Any question feel free to ask.
I'm sure it's more expensive for the unit itself today, but what did it cost delivered, and how long did it take to get it? Maybe supply chain issues are not a concern anymore.
When I ordered it. I think it took 3 months to get. I picked it up at the dealer and installed it all myself. Just ordered another one. And looks like 3/4 weeks now.
What happens if you want to go on a one week vacation in the middle of winter? Does the fire go out and the water pipes freeze for the rest of the winter?
The fire will eventually go out. But the pumps stay on to circulate the water at all times so not worried about the water freezing. Also the house back up systems will turn on on there own which will keep the water warm until someone gets back to the house to re lot the fire.
Thank you. Yes I have a rack made under the lean too that when we make bundles we store there and when it’s time to refill stand or supply our suppliers we can grab and go.
Not sure if you’ve mentioned this in your other videos, but do you cut your wood to longer lengths than 16”? Heatmaster says 20-24” on their website. Wanted to know if 24” was the absolute maximum that would fit. Thanks! Great channel.
If you put wood in from front door to the back you can put longer than 24 no problem. There’s times I put limb wood in that is 3ft long in there. If I have soft wood that I won’t sell I will cut it longer 2ft at least and leave it bigger split and throw all that in there.
I really like your setup there! I am getting ready to build my house next year and I have been looking for a set up like this, two questions for you though. How wide is your wood room there? Also, do you have any issues with your exhaust smoke that close to your house?
The lean to is 22 wide and the boiler is roughly 200ft from the house. And with the Gasification unit there’s really no smoke. So there’s really no smell. Only time you get any smoke or smell is when you load it. Best thing you can do is keep your equipment under cover and out of the elements.
It looks like you added this space on just for the boiler? You laid the water lines, then poured the slab it looks like? Do you have any concerns about it being indoors. I'm looking at putting one of these protected inside of a large shop space.
I added the lean too way prior to the boiler. Then laid out all the water lines. Graded everything then poured. No regrets having it under cover/indoors. If you do plan on putting it fully inside have an exhaust fan for any smoke that comes out. If you don’t you will regret it. So nice having it under cover. Plus wood can be right by it and nice and dry.
I have followed the channel for quite sometime. I have a 1,100 square foot house in western PA, and i currently burn 5 full cords a year with an indoor wood stove insert. I have been curious what my wood consumption would be with one of these units.
We used to burn inside the house with an insert as well and burned 5 full cords. Now if we just burned to just heat the house it would be a fraction of that. It’s worth the investment for sure. Possibilities are endless as you can see what I all heat with mine.
How old is that insert? If it's pre EPA efficiency standards kicked in you can expect to cut your wood consumption in half while also heating your hot water. 5 cords for 1100 square feet seems like a lot, so I'm guessing you either have an old stove or little Insulation
@markcrawford2 just for reference I heat 3k square feet + hot water with a G4000 in New England, probably use about 5 cords (mainly hardwood) although haven't measured it properly.
Not sure about head room. But I can always unhook water lines and roll the whole unit out if need be. Or just remove a panel on the roof and pull them out. So far they are almost as clean as the day I bought it.
@@Treestofirewood I saw a TH-cam video of a guy that had to pull his out because they were all gummed up with creosote. I want to put mine in a building like yours but I was considering making the roof high enough so that I could remove them without unhooking it and taking it outside since it's a lot of work to do that.
@stevenpringle7813 yeah I seen that same video as well. If you burn dry enough wood. The turbulators gumming up shouldn’t ever be an issue. When I take my back panel off and slide them up to see them. They don’t have any accumulation at all. Just some fly ash. You will know when your not doing it right when the bottom chamber starts getting black and has other material than fly ash. As long as it’s gassing with no smoke your good.
I did look into those as well. I guess for me it was the easier maintenance and dealer response and helpfulness. Im sure either one would of be okay. But I chose HeatMaster for the quality and easy to use.
Good review, so this is like having dairy cows then? You have to attend to it twice a day every day, 365, rain, snow, shine, or flu. Not sure that's for me or not.
@mrpush2532 yes it may not be for everyone. But you can load it once a day if you choose to do so. Just runs optimal when loaded twice a day. Better coals. And stays cleaner.
@tacotruck2595 on a Gasification unit it has a unique smell. Never smells like smoke smell. And you only smell it if you are in the line of fire. The drier the wood you burn the better it is.
Nice review I have been watching you since the beginning because I was going to get a outdoor boiler. My Heatmaster dealer is a joke. He doesn't know his products. I would have to purchase all my wood because I do not have a sorce. I am 68 years old and just had a knee replaced two days ago. So I decided not to purchase a outdoor boiler. I will keep buying coal. I just paid $425.00 a ton for 4 ton of coal that is what we used last year. I will probably burn coal until the leftist democrats close the coal mines. Good burning wood hard wood cost me $350.00 a cord so I can't see the expense of purchasing a outdoor wood boiler. I will continue to watch your channel
That’s unfortunate about your dealer. I’m sure after a few years of you did get a boiler you would get money back. But yes if you have to buy the wood that’s expense as well. But I bet that wood would last you way longer than you think. All depends on how efficient your house is. But I do appreciate you watching.
The wood doesn’t need to be perfect perfect when putting the wood in. Just don’t completely cover the nozzle. Leave a few gaps so there is airflow. Other than that throw it in
Thank you for the honest review. Glad to see a company stand by their product and have fast customer service and support.
Yeah they make good stuff and really happy with the company and my dealer support.
I built my own wood boiler and used 3/4 pex insulated with pool noodles to pipe the water. It was super cheap. The real issue with the boiler is the firewood. It is time-consuming and hard labor to cut.
Yeah it sometimes can seem over whelming. But look at the bright side. Pros always out weigh the cons. I’d rather do some work than pay someone else for my laziness.
Great to see the way you enclosed the unit under a roof and walls , your wood is undercover. In inclement weather your dry to load the furnace
It’s the best. Snow rain or even hot sun. Always under cover. Everyone should have there boiler under cover. It’s an investment.
@@Treestofirewood I never considered putting my homemade boiler outside, having a large shop.
Excellent job with the review. I am sure the video will be helpful to many people. I am new to your channel so I subscribed. Take care!
Steve
Thanks for coming along. I hope it is helpful to all. Love my boiler.
I appreciate the video I currently have an older mf10000 wood boiler and I love it. It is 10 yrs old and was thinking about going to a gasification Stove so I've been trying to learn the differences in them. Thank you.
You won’t be disappointed if you made the transition. There’s a learning curve to them but it’s not hard to run. Dry wood is the biggest thing. The rest is easy. People over think it. Any question feel free to ask.
I have a outside traditional multi-pass wood boiler. Currently heating hot water only. Three kids two adults. My breaker is turned off to hot water tank it’s electric. I have to feed my boiler, but that’s by choice. Can’t be lazy. Price of electric jumped big time here where I live. Guessing $75 a month electric bill savings. Last winter first time operating a wood boiler. Like you said a little learning curve and a lot questions to friends. Bottom line I love it,I will never go back to a normal wood stove. Great video.
It’s literally the best purchase I think I have ever made. All my expectations were met. And yeah the saving is nice. Little work but well worth it. Def happy I kept it going all summer long.
Good review I plan to do a 1 year review on my conventional in the next week or 2
What boiler do you have?
@@Treestofirewood Johnson little John conventional. Bought it used last summer. Love it but burns plenty of wood
Nice setup. Wood stays dry. You stay dry. It’s a win win situation! I don’t know why anyone that has one of these boilers doesn’t have it in a building.
Yeah it’s the perfect set up really. I’m protecting my investment. And yeah who wants to be out in the elements filling boiler and or if something needs to be replaced you are out of the elements.
I like your setup in the shed with the roof and the concrete slab. I am planning out a property with home and shop and would like to heat with wood. Did you have to deal a lot with insurance companies with having the outdoor wood boiler in a semi indoor space? I'm sure I would have to deal with my insurance provider for my own unique situation but wondering how much of a hassle, if any, you had. Thanks!
My particular boiler is certified to be indoor or inside a building. So it was not an issue at all. Best decision ever. Keeps you and the machine out of the elements. And you can keep your wood close and out of the rain or snow.
I have a g4000 im about to fire up for the first time. Im very interested to learn it all and get the first year under my belt on what works and doesn't. I wish the guy who installed it was more helpful on teaching me.
Congrats on your new stove. Your going to love it. Don’t over think it. It’s pretty easy. I have a lot of videos on my boiler that should help. Any question feel free to ask.
I'm sure it's more expensive for the unit itself today, but what did it cost delivered, and how long did it take to get it? Maybe supply chain issues are not a concern anymore.
When I ordered it. I think it took 3 months to get. I picked it up at the dealer and installed it all myself. Just ordered another one. And looks like 3/4 weeks now.
What happens if you want to go on a one week vacation in the middle of winter?
Does the fire go out and the water pipes freeze for the rest of the winter?
The fire will eventually go out. But the pumps stay on to circulate the water at all times so not worried about the water freezing. Also the house back up systems will turn on on there own which will keep the water warm until someone gets back to the house to re lot the fire.
i see that your wood is very organized. do you have bundles set aside so that you can grab and go?
Thank you. Yes I have a rack made under the lean too that when we make bundles we store there and when it’s time to refill stand or supply our suppliers we can grab and go.
Not sure if you’ve mentioned this in your other videos, but do you cut your wood to longer lengths than 16”? Heatmaster says 20-24” on their website. Wanted to know if 24” was the absolute maximum that would fit. Thanks! Great channel.
If you put wood in from front door to the back you can put longer than 24 no problem. There’s times I put limb wood in that is 3ft long in there. If I have soft wood that I won’t sell I will cut it longer 2ft at least and leave it bigger split and throw all that in there.
I really like your setup there! I am getting ready to build my house next year and I have been looking for a set up like this, two questions for you though. How wide is your wood room there? Also, do you have any issues with your exhaust smoke that close to your house?
The lean to is 22 wide and the boiler is roughly 200ft from the house. And with the Gasification unit there’s really no smoke. So there’s really no smell. Only time you get any smoke or smell is when you load it. Best thing you can do is keep your equipment under cover and out of the elements.
awesome thanks for the info! Yes I agree with you very smart to keep it out of the elements thanks!@@Treestofirewood
Ah, what part of "gasification" did you not understand...?
It looks like you added this space on just for the boiler? You laid the water lines, then poured the slab it looks like? Do you have any concerns about it being indoors. I'm looking at putting one of these protected inside of a large shop space.
I added the lean too way prior to the boiler. Then laid out all the water lines. Graded everything then poured. No regrets having it under cover/indoors. If you do plan on putting it fully inside have an exhaust fan for any smoke that comes out. If you don’t you will regret it. So nice having it under cover. Plus wood can be right by it and nice and dry.
That's the way to have a firewood boiller( boiler)????
I have followed the channel for quite sometime. I have a 1,100 square foot house in western PA, and i currently burn 5 full cords a year with an indoor wood stove insert. I have been curious what my wood consumption would be with one of these units.
We used to burn inside the house with an insert as well and burned 5 full cords. Now if we just burned to just heat the house it would be a fraction of that. It’s worth the investment for sure. Possibilities are endless as you can see what I all heat with mine.
How old is that insert? If it's pre EPA efficiency standards kicked in you can expect to cut your wood consumption in half while also heating your hot water.
5 cords for 1100 square feet seems like a lot, so I'm guessing you either have an old stove or little Insulation
I thought the same thing. But you never know what kind of wood he’s burning. Could be soft wood then it would be double for sure.
@@Treestofirewoodtrue, never think of softwood consumption. Living in New England I have no shortage of hardwoods to choose from.
@markcrawford2 just for reference I heat 3k square feet + hot water with a G4000 in New England, probably use about 5 cords (mainly hardwood) although haven't measured it properly.
What cost range does a boiler like that run? Just curious what cost might look like.
The gassers from HeatMaster range from 11-18k
@@Treestofirewood thank you- appreciate the information
How high is the ceiling above the boiler? Can you remove the turbulators for cleaning with that amount of headroom above the furnace? Thanks.
Not sure about head room. But I can always unhook water lines and roll the whole unit out if need be. Or just remove a panel on the roof and pull them out. So far they are almost as clean as the day I bought it.
@@Treestofirewood I saw a TH-cam video of a guy that had to pull his out because they were all gummed up with creosote. I want to put mine in a building like yours but I was considering making the roof high enough so that I could remove them without unhooking it and taking it outside since it's a lot of work to do that.
@stevenpringle7813 yeah I seen that same video as well. If you burn dry enough wood. The turbulators gumming up shouldn’t ever be an issue. When I take my back panel off and slide them up to see them. They don’t have any accumulation at all. Just some fly ash. You will know when your not doing it right when the bottom chamber starts getting black and has other material than fly ash. As long as it’s gassing with no smoke your good.
Why did you go with the Heat Master or the Classic Edge equivalent?
I did look into those as well. I guess for me it was the easier maintenance and dealer response and helpfulness. Im sure either one would of be okay. But I chose HeatMaster for the quality and easy to use.
@@Treestofirewood Thank you for the advice.
Good review, so this is like having dairy cows then? You have to attend to it twice a day every day, 365, rain, snow, shine, or flu.
Not sure that's for me or not.
@@mrpush2532 I can see your point of view. It’s not for everyone but it is very appealing to me and my life.
@mrpush2532 yes it may not be for everyone. But you can load it once a day if you choose to do so. Just runs optimal when loaded twice a day. Better coals. And stays cleaner.
Does your property always smell like wood smoke?
Nope not at all. One would think it would but it doesn’t.
@@Treestofirewood thank you, I was surprised how hard it was to get information on the smoke smell from forums and reviews on these boilers.
@tacotruck2595 on a Gasification unit it has a unique smell. Never smells like smoke smell. And you only smell it if you are in the line of fire. The drier the wood you burn the better it is.
Why is your outdoor boiler inside a building?
These boilers from HeatMaster are rated to be in doors. So why be out in the elements when you don’t have too.
...compromised reading comprehension skills...ya think.
Nice review I have been watching you since the beginning because I was going to get a outdoor boiler. My Heatmaster dealer is a joke. He doesn't know his products. I would have to purchase all my wood because I do not have a sorce. I am 68 years old and just had a knee replaced two days ago. So I decided not to purchase a outdoor boiler. I will keep buying coal. I just paid $425.00 a ton for 4 ton of coal that is what we used last year. I will probably burn coal until the leftist democrats close the coal mines. Good burning wood hard wood cost me $350.00 a cord so I can't see the expense of purchasing a outdoor wood boiler. I will continue to watch your channel
That’s unfortunate about your dealer. I’m sure after a few years of you did get a boiler you would get money back. But yes if you have to buy the wood that’s expense as well. But I bet that wood would last you way longer than you think. All depends on how efficient your house is. But I do appreciate you watching.
Thanks!
Much appreciated.
Open the fire box show how precise you need to pile the wood
The wood doesn’t need to be perfect perfect when putting the wood in. Just don’t completely cover the nozzle. Leave a few gaps so there is airflow. Other than that throw it in
Can i buy one in ireland
They are based out of Canada so they may ship over sees.
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$$$???
What money are you asking about?