Really nice compliment paid to you by your dad. He knew things were handled well I his absence. That’s a testament to your character young man and based on what I saw from your dad I can see where you got it.
Great explanation of the wood burner. You can hear the pride in your pops voice as he walks us through the system. Someone will buy it for sure just to pick his brain!
You guys must be proud of your dad and the way he used those coals to make the heart in the field for your mother is another form of getting a secondary or even a third burn out of your wood.
I have had the same central boiler for 22 years. Replaced the solenoid 3 times, gasket in the door and the Taco water pump because the plastic propeller disintegrated after 15 years. On the maintenance during off season: Old timer I bought it from, told me not to scrape off the creosote on the firebox walls after removing the ashes and spray the insides with used motor oil to prevent rust. Great burner with a simple design.
***Thank you for this, this type of video is better than sitting in a classroom*** When I was in school we had metal shop, auto shop and a half day class off campus doing actual building projectst like framing, brick laying, and basic plumbing, and electrical. That stuff is long gone and kids need it more now than ever since most do not have enough common sense to jump in and do things for themselves unfortunately. So thank God for sites like yours and others like it. 👍
Common sense is what should be taught by parents. Parents started offloading their duty onto schools and nothing run by the govt is worth a damn. So now those lazy parents created uneducated kids that are only taught that the tv is good, phd's are good, and obey what you are told.
I learned from your video how to warm my wife up twice with the same firewood! Always good info and great to see the trust your dad places in you Awesome!
My wife and I own a landscape business on 40 acres, so we have been looking into getting a boiler setup. I really appreciate the well detailed pros and cons with having one. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
I'm so glad your dad's back. I wish him good health. The boiler is great. I'm sorry I don't understand English well. The text is translated by Google. I'm still following your presentation of life on the farm.
I agree about the goodness of wood heat. We heated our house in Maine with wood for many years, and no matter how cold it got, we always had a warm, comfy house.
My brother got one of those big boilers. Heats his shop and home. Big shop, big house. He just replaced this summer with one of those Canadian units because of the improved tech. He is bringing the 20 year old one to his fabricating shop. It still is in good shape.
Got on the laptop tonight to investigate using an outdoor furnace and luckily I found you with all the needed information. Thanks for sharing. Rick from NE Texas.
I was probably the one that mentioned using the ashes on the driveway near the milk house. We always had a steel wash tub next to the wood burner to put the ashes to cool off for weeks until we need them. If we didn't use them, we did the same thing you guys do, haul them with the manure.
WOW !! Your hot water system and heater takes me back to when we lived in Africa (Zimbabwe to be exact)!! My parents ran a hotel near the Wankie Game Reserve and they had wood-fired furnaces primarily to heat water for the bathrooms attached to each bedroom !! Very efficient and cheap to operate !! Thank you for sharing !! Your Dad did a great job walking us through the details !!
There's a lot to like about this video and your channel on the whole, but perhaps most of all I like you're Dad's ability to speak in full paragraphs while breathing wood smoke and ash. Great stuff man
I had the similar boiler in the 2000's and heated the same amount of square footage. Absolutely loved, had to replace one door solenoid and one door rope. This video brought back some great memories. I used it for all floor heat, I burned about 15-20 cords per year.
Good job explaining the boiler and you are right you can not beat wood heat and your dad is totally right it makes for a lot nicer and relaxing vacation if you know the farm is being responsibly taken care of
We heated on grandpa's farm with a Central Boiler, loved it! I would have another one in a heartbeat! We live in town and I miss the independence and pleasure of heating with a wood boiler.
This is the first video of yours that I've come across, I'm impressed. That was an excellent explanation of that wood boiler, your father seems like a really good guy
I've had my central boiler for 8or 9 years now run it year round with minimal maintenance just the normal things you've talked about absolutely love it
Hey! (from New Hampshire) ~~~ Thank you so much for all the candid information about the current operation of this furnace! Just great. Aand your history with heating from outside. This is huge. Thank you. I just can't stop thinking about how you clean out that boiler and are taking so much "heat" right on out of the boiler. For me I could see a big slaughtered or "harvested" Pig right there in your Bobcat Bucket. Right on the coals. And then ~. A big party for the barbecue ! ~. Oh yea ! .✨🌸❤🌸✨
Thanks for taking the time to go over the boiler system you guys use there. Have to admit I do like either wood heat or a steam radiator system over the forced air heating system. Take care.
I was searching for wood boilers i could use for a hot tub and ran across this video. Being in SE Texas, I never Dreamed something like this existed. I've been interested in rocket stoves for awhile and how to incorporate it into my mobile home without setting it on fire. This gives me a whole new set of ideas. I have learned many good safety points as well. You never know who can use your experience. Thanks! 21:00 I thought there was some fancy editing there because I was seeing two of you.
I won't discourage you from this project rather I hope to add something; the most powerful hot tub heater I could find was 27kw, whereas a relatively small one of these outputs easily double that. That hot tub heater is not designed to operate continuously, so you're probably looking at an average of ~15kw of heat for a huge hot tub, a large wood burning stove will inefficient if run at a quarter of its design capacity. Have you looked into pellet stove boilers? They are available in much lower power bands, and operate almost autonomously, similar designs are available for burning wood chips too (though pellet boilers are more oriented towards the consumer/home heating market whereas wood chip boilers are geared more towards industrial applications).
Another great video! Thanks for explaining the wood boiler system. Dad is great about explaining anything and he has tons of knowledge! See ya next video!
When we suggested using ash near any building of course the coals would be cold. As for a lean to over the boiler most definitely that will keep the fire wood dryer the boiler protected from the weather and when you stoke the fire or clean out the ash in the rain or sleet you may not be warm but there is a lot to be said for dry. The boiler next to any building is asking for trouble. Good call to heat the shop floor that gives so many advantages to the building and everything stored in it.
I think the Portage and Maine unit was a gasification boiler. The CL 6048 was not as far as I remember. That is the reason for the fire brick and smaller door (smaller wood). The gasification units are more efficient as the wood gasses are burnt off in a secondary chamber that temps get extremely hot (1700F). Look up ECOBURN, TARM, etc. for how pure gasification units work. GARN is an amazing unit integrating the gasification with a huge water jacket (1500-2500 gallons). The Portage and Maine is similar at least in theory to the GARN. Other advantage of gasification units is the almost zero smoke created as all unburnt particles are burned at those temps. Only exhaust is moisture in wood. Of course the downside of this units is that they do better with drier wood.
Have you ever considered building a insulated shed/housing over/around the burner to reduce the heat loss? The cold wind must cool the thing down however well built and insulated the burner is 🤔 I have my wood chip burner in the basement of the house, the way it normally was done here in Sweden. That way whatever heat loss the burner has it goes to heat the basement and thus indirectly also the house. Nowadays people tend to build a separate well insulated burner shed or attach it to the garage to keep the dust etc away from the house. I totally agree, wood heating gives comfort and if one has his own raw material it's a no brainer 👍
This is the method, the way my best friend heats his 7 acres of greenhouses in south Georgia, but much larger, it requires so much wood we use a front end loader to fill it up. All of his system is homemade, we use a plastic PVC pipe grid in the ground pumping the warm water, and the heat rises up from the warm earth. We get our wood for free, free heat.
Like you Said wood heat is the best Because you get two heats out of it First heat cutting the tree down and piling it Then the furnace heat lol Another great video
I'm loving this, learning alot. What i suggest with that solenoid is to just take it apart and sand all the areas where it slides in and out of the coil and just add some good grease in there and i'm certain that thing will never go bad again. The reason they go bad is because as you discovered they stick and once they stick they tend to overheat if the slug stays in the magnetic field. Once the coil overheats then they just short out and stop working. Hope that helps yall, i'm digging you're setup!
Central boiler CL - 17 was a Side draft. With the damper on the right side of the firebox. I’m still using mine !! It’s been a problem. But it gets lots of love and Fixed EVERY TIME IT BREAKS !!! I’m Getting a NEW PORTAGE & MAIN BOILER SOON. Just WAITING FOR IT.. DELIVERY .. IS ALL. And since CENTRAL BOILER BOUGHT OUT WOOD MASTER , I DONT WANT ANOTHER POS BRAND BOILER. THIS Next GO AROUND. As im buying this one Brand new. $13,000 new 20 Yr warranty. ! Will see hope my central can make it three spring?.. if not the new one will be installed asap after it is on my property. I guess either way outdoor boilers are the way to heat ur house. With firewood!!! Hands down !!
As the "old" saying goes,burning wood heat you twice!! Once when you cut the wood and twice when you throw the wood in the furnace!! Keep warm everyone. Thanks 😊.
I have a Wood Master 4400, installed in 1995 in Central New Hampshire a couple problems had to weld up a leak replaced the steel stack did it in the summer. I burn a lot of junk pine and pallets only use good hard wood at night , love this thing only burn about 50 gal of oil in the summer for hot water.
Father and son? I thought they were brothers. Not just by the way, this was a very good look and description of a wood furnace, an interesting video. It looks like a lot of work burning wood, not to mention cutting, blocking and transporting the wood, but with No. 2 heating fuel 4-5 bucks a gallon I'll bet the effort is worth it.
I have to agree with you that wood heat is the best. The wood burning has a nice smell and it gives a warm cozy heat. Enjoyed your dad's explanation of the boilers and glad that your new one has a door for the ashes on the Bottom. The Ash door is smaller so like your dad said it will probably had to be emptied more often.
Nice video I got a buddy that uses one on his farm to heat his house and out houses like you up in Canada St Thomas he loves it says it's the greatest thing he's ever had.
Your outdoor furnaces are very impressive...heating the house and your shop is no small challenge in your climate. We've had 2 Hardy outdoor furnaces. Need to pursue getting things operational again in the off season. When we got the first one, I wondered if we'd run out of wood, but between down trees in the woods and overgrown fencerows no shortage of raw material. It was nice having all the mess outdoors and being able to use a variety of wood. A little inconvenient having to go outdoors to check the fire, but usually coordinated checks with morning and evening chores.
Excellent video! I know you will like your P & M boiler once hooked up. I purchased my Portage & Main BL28-40 conventional boiler in 2014, really like it! Easy maintenance, easy to operate and very efficient with the secondary heat exchanger. I go through around 8 full cords of red oak each year in West Central Wisconsin.
I can see the practically of these boilers but I do love my add on wood coal furnace. My friend who is 30 years my senior talked one day about heating their old farm house which was uninsulated. Every weekend they would set up the cord wood saw and 10 20 McCormick and buzzed enough wood to fill an old Dodge ton and a half ton straight truck. All that wood fed and old cast iron octopus furnace in the Michigan basement.
God love you guys. There are still real Men doing things for themselves and thereby creating happy lives. I love it. I'll watch your future videos often. And let me know if you ever want to come to RI and do some beach stuff (June-Sept) or saltwater fishing.
I'm from Canada...and Portage and Main is a famous intersection in the city of Winnipeg Manitoba, known for high winds and minus 40 degree temperatures...in case you wanted to know what's behind the name.There's a famous rock star who played in the Winnipeg band called "The Guess Who" , his name is Randy Bachman...he does a song as a solo artist about "Portage and Main"...one of the lines is "Portage and Main 50 below" . In central Manitoba , 300 miles north of Portage and Main, many people use wood boilers...plenty of wood in the Boreal forests of the area.
Wood heat is the best ever. I miss it and my wood stove. Uses the ash on my driveway to clear up the snow. It was a dirt driveway and I kept it away from my house. It will make a mess onf your floors. Also love the chainsaw holder.
Used an outdoor wood boiler in PA years ago. Live in the south, now and only need marginal heat in the winter months. I used to sell wood boiler parts on ebay too. I had one fellow up in Wisconsin who was mean spirited about the competition. He used to harass me quite frequently and even contact my customers to bad mouth me. Last I heard, someone was suing him. The new boiler with the induced draft will outperform the old one as it has a more positive method to control the burn. There's good and bad in everything. If you have a source of wood these things can be quite economical. The newer heat pumps with the inverter motors are a close second and provide year around comfort in all weather. And if you use mini-splits you can reduce or increase temps in various parts of your home and save even more. There are some of these that run directly off solar panels.
Love my outside furnance! I have a natures comfort 120. I have a shaker system and a pan I pull out to empty the ash. I can burn wood and coal in it. Your dad should redo the ash pan if he can. Make it deeper. Also since the blower is on the back scrape ashes towards the front eventually ashes will block the air from the blower
I have Hawken Energy boiler that is 16 years old , knock on wood , never had an issue with it and maintenance was minimal , I'm upstate NY and never take most of the ashes out . I take about 3-4 wheelbarrows worth out during entire winter and then I clean it out completely in a spring when I shut it down .I don't burn garbage either , but since I am contractor ,I do burn any lumber cut off
I thoroughly enjoyed this production👍🏼 Dad does a phenomenal job of talking and explaining as he goes about his tasks. We have been feeding two outdoor furnaces, one Central Boiler and one HeatMor. The latter is of similar design as your new one. The smaller door may take some getting use to... Mine inspired considerable profanity as I like to feed larger material when possible. However the forced air draft makes for short recovery times if the water temperature somehow drops below the desired temp. You may even find that you won’t need to maintain the water temperature quite as high with the new one. Great job gentlemen. Happy Thanksgiving from our farm to yours! Bless’ns to ya, Tedd
@@draganarc0131 Of the two, I think the Central Boiler is the simplest and lowest maintenance unit. It is probably around twenty years old, roughly the same as our Heatmor.
@@sawsurgeon thank you for responding. I have a central boiler gasifier E-1450. I was extremely happy with it till a week ago. It sprung a leak in the firebox. It’s only 9 years old, I test the water 2 times a year clean it really well at the end of the season and even spray it with krown. I’m currently waiting for a call back from central boiler because my dealer tells me there’s no warranty. All the information I received with it says 25 year warranty.
@@draganarc0131 Wow, that’s very disappointing. I’ve heard great things about the gasifiers. There must have been a flaw in the steel if it has been maintained consistently over that period of time. I hope they return your call.
Look in to how many .. BTUs max can be moved thru a 1 inch line . You have a pretty big boiler you could have like 3 or 4 zones coming off it . And it could output alot more BTUs . I have 3 zones ( runs ) averages 270,000 BTUs and I'm think of adding another . I can output 400,000 btus max .. But only running 3 - 1 inch lines . You could run 1 1/4 line also.. just a tip from 25 years running a wood boiler. I also need to add it will burn more wood also but heat output is awesome. I used 1 inch PEX aluminum PEX so inside is a full 1 inch . They have 1 1/4 PEX al PEX also.. trench heat loss has to be kept to under 1-2 degrees at 125 feet . Any more then that your trench would be taking enough wood to heat another house. Just look in to them things and it's helpful hints.
Dad is very good at explaining things.Just curious I know those wood burners are insulated , but have you ever pointed a thermometer at the out side of it to see the heat loss? we have a couple neighbors that had them outside, then built a small leanto onto their shops for the woodburner putting a small fan in the adjoining wall into the shop ,they say it heats their shop alot of the time just with the heat coming off the woodburner
I don’t think insulation is really required around the wood stove. My outdoor wood boiler runs best when it’s super cold out. When it’s to warm around the stove the water temp rarely gets down low enough to open the damper. So the colder the better
Maybe, but the reality is that all wood burning appliances run much better (efficiently hotter) in the cold. More oxygen. Gotta learn how to capture all btus no matter what weather ~
Great job on the boiler. You will like the ash clean out. Bet when you were a kid you never thought you would make videos of your dad explaining farm life? He is good and I appreciate the story's with the tips!
Thank you so much for sharing. A friend of mine has similar model up the hill and probably uses a couple of gallons of oil a year at best. Code enforcement won't let me have one down here and I find it sad.
We have a Heatmor. It's best selling point is the 409 stainless steel construction. The small door (20"x20") on it sux. It has that double door thing too. We built a ramp & a pivot to get the bigger pieces in. One bigger door would be way better. No more smashing fingers while throwing the logs in. Ours has a hand operated ash auger. That's nice, but you still have to get inside to clean it out. Also, the auger is stored outside the boiler.
I've got big jack add on wood stove . It's made at palisade Minnesota. I like the stove , but if I had to do it again I would go the route you did. You will like that ash tray on that Canada stove
Holy smokes I counted about 10 Stihl chainsaws. I have three one is a 028 super I rebuilt into a now modified souped up 029. Have a burner in the house so try to stay with good wood. More important I season it two years before burning.
Different subject completely. I've been watching you guys for a few months. Your farm was like the one I grew up on, except door county, were flat lands and we did have as many tractors "wink". My daughter met Gerorge Jensen at Stevenson Point and they married. George's home town is Berlin WI. Your Dad knows George's Dad, Tom (or TJ) and your Mom and Dad knows George's mom Jill, a school teacher who taught your youngest brother. We are celebrating this weekend with them and couldn't wait to ask DJ if he knew you guys. I was suprised about Jill being your brothers teacher. Small world.
Really nice compliment paid to you by your dad. He knew things were handled well I his absence. That’s a testament to your character young man and based on what I saw from your dad I can see where you got it.
love love love the comment about spreading the ashes into the shape of a heart rather than buy flowers. youre such a guy...which is a good thing
Thanks Mark!
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Great explanation of the wood burner. You can hear the pride in your pops voice as he walks us through the system. Someone will buy it for sure just to pick his brain!
Thanks Peter!
You guys must be proud of your dad and the way he used those coals to make the heart in the field for your mother is another form of getting a secondary or even a third burn out of your wood.
I have had the same central boiler for 22 years. Replaced the solenoid 3 times, gasket in the door and the Taco water pump because the plastic propeller disintegrated after 15 years.
On the maintenance during off season: Old timer I bought it from, told me not to scrape off the creosote on the firebox walls after removing the ashes and spray the insides with used motor oil to prevent rust. Great burner with a simple design.
***Thank you for this, this type of video is better than sitting in a classroom*** When I was in school we had metal shop, auto shop and a half day class off campus doing actual building projectst like framing, brick laying, and basic plumbing, and electrical. That stuff is long gone and kids need it more now than ever since most do not have enough common sense to jump in and do things for themselves unfortunately. So thank God for sites like yours and others like it. 👍
Thank you for watching!
Common sense is what should be taught by parents. Parents started offloading their duty onto schools and nothing run by the govt is worth a damn. So now those lazy parents created uneducated kids that are only taught that the tv is good, phd's are good, and obey what you are told.
I learned from your video how to warm my wife up twice with the same firewood! Always good info and great to see the trust your dad places in you Awesome!
Lol, Thanks Rick!
Nice seeing your dad back home where his heart is.
Thanks
This is a family full of integrity
The thing I love about my boiler is that it heats with wood. The thing I hate about my boiler is that it heats with wood.
😂 so true!!
My wife and I own a landscape business on 40 acres, so we have been looking into getting a boiler setup. I really appreciate the well detailed pros and cons with having one. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
I'm so glad your dad's back. I wish him good health. The boiler is great. I'm sorry I don't understand English well. The text is translated by Google. I'm still following your presentation of life on the farm.
Thank you, we appreciate it!
Your dad is the man. He needs to be in more videos . Very informative and entertaining
I agree about the goodness of wood heat. We heated our house in Maine with wood for many years, and no matter how cold it got, we always had a warm, comfy house.
My brother got one of those big boilers. Heats his shop and home. Big shop, big house. He just replaced this summer with one of those Canadian units because of the improved tech. He is bringing the 20 year old one to his fabricating shop. It still is in good shape.
Got on the laptop tonight to investigate using an outdoor furnace and luckily I found you with all the needed information. Thanks for sharing. Rick from NE Texas.
I guess he didn't see the hinge on that poor gate yet! Glad you had a good trip, Mr. Gierok. The boys did an excellent job.
Lol, Thank you!
wood heat is a cozy warming heat that feels so good coming in from the cold when you've gotten so cold out side!!!
I had no idea that it was possible to renew the extended warranty on my 20 year old wood fired boiler system. So I liked and subscribed today.
Again thank you. I really learn something every time I watch your videos. Have a great week.
Thanks James!
I was probably the one that mentioned using the ashes on the driveway near the milk house. We always had a steel wash tub next to the wood burner to put the ashes to cool off for weeks until we need them. If we didn't use them, we did the same thing you guys do, haul them with the manure.
It's great fertilizer!
@@GierokFarms oh I agree. I spread some on my lawn and the only thing I can say is wow.
WOW !! Your hot water system and heater takes me back to when we lived in Africa (Zimbabwe to be exact)!! My parents ran a hotel near the Wankie Game Reserve and they had wood-fired furnaces primarily to heat water for the bathrooms attached to each bedroom !! Very efficient and cheap to operate !!
Thank you for sharing !! Your Dad did a great job walking us through the details !!
Thank you for watching John!
@@GierokFarms My pleasure !! Hope you've got lots more videos to share !!
Thank you for representing the hard working Wisconsin Farmers!
Great video - - - glad the folks got back from their trip safely
Thank you!
There's a lot to like about this video and your channel on the whole, but perhaps most of all I like you're Dad's ability to speak in full paragraphs while breathing wood smoke and ash. Great stuff man
I had the similar boiler in the 2000's and heated the same amount of square footage. Absolutely loved, had to replace one door solenoid and one door rope. This video brought back some great memories. I used it for all floor heat, I burned about 15-20 cords per year.
Sweet!
At that rate how often do you clean it out? Water in the lines with antifreeze?
20 cords is a lot of wood!
@@timothykeith1367 too much. It seemed like all I did was cut wood. But at least it is relaxing.
Wow, that is a whole lot of wood. Yipes!
Good job explaining the boiler and you are right you can not beat wood heat and your dad is totally right it makes for a lot nicer and relaxing vacation if you know the farm is being responsibly taken care of
Thank you Jerry!
We heated on grandpa's farm with a Central Boiler, loved it! I would have another one in a heartbeat! We live in town and I miss the independence and pleasure of heating with a wood boiler.
It sure is nice!
Great exclamation about both boilers beautiful property and great chainsaw a rack.
This is the first video of yours that I've come across, I'm impressed. That was an excellent explanation of that wood boiler, your father seems like a really good guy
Thank you Adam!
What a nice disposition is man has. Sal of the earth kind of guy. Thank you not only for the info but for demonstrating wholesome goodness
Thanks David!
Brilliant from the high mountains of France.
I've had my central boiler for 8or 9 years now run it year round with minimal maintenance just the normal things you've talked about absolutely love it
Your dad is really good at explaining everything. Great video and thanks for the good vibes about us crazy Canucks!
Thank you!
I was just checking out the Bachman Turner Overdrive song "Prairie Town" which features the line "Portage and main 50 below".
Hey! (from New Hampshire) ~~~ Thank you so much for all the candid information about the current operation of this furnace! Just great. Aand your history with heating from outside. This is huge. Thank you. I just can't stop thinking about how you clean out that boiler and are taking so much "heat" right on out of the boiler. For me I could see a big slaughtered or "harvested" Pig right there in your Bobcat Bucket. Right on the coals. And then ~. A big party for the barbecue ! ~. Oh yea ! .✨🌸❤🌸✨
Wonderful video. Entertaining, informative, perfect. Thank you, guys.
You guys do everything with excellence. Thanks for the great informative video
Thank you Andy!
Love to See You Two Love Your Dad so much!
Thanks for taking the time to go over the boiler system you guys use there. Have to admit I do like either wood heat or a steam radiator system over the forced air heating system. Take care.
No problem thanks for watching!
I have a Classic 5036 and bought it in 2008! It is the best investment i have made! I am in New England!
Welcome!
Radiant in the shop, forced air in the house. Heat exchanger water heaters. Nice.
Thanks
I was searching for wood boilers i could use for a hot tub and ran across this video. Being in SE Texas, I never Dreamed something like this existed. I've been interested in rocket stoves for awhile and how to incorporate it into my mobile home without setting it on fire. This gives me a whole new set of ideas. I have learned many good safety points as well. You never know who can use your experience. Thanks! 21:00 I thought there was some fancy editing there because I was seeing two of you.
I won't discourage you from this project rather I hope to add something; the most powerful hot tub heater I could find was 27kw, whereas a relatively small one of these outputs easily double that. That hot tub heater is not designed to operate continuously, so you're probably looking at an average of ~15kw of heat for a huge hot tub, a large wood burning stove will inefficient if run at a quarter of its design capacity.
Have you looked into pellet stove boilers? They are available in much lower power bands, and operate almost autonomously, similar designs are available for burning wood chips too (though pellet boilers are more oriented towards the consumer/home heating market whereas wood chip boilers are geared more towards industrial applications).
Another great video! Thanks for explaining the wood boiler system. Dad is great about explaining anything and he has tons of knowledge! See ya next video!
Thank you!
When we suggested using ash near any building of course the coals would be cold. As for a lean to over the boiler most definitely that will keep the fire wood dryer the boiler protected from the weather and when you stoke the fire or clean out the ash in the rain or sleet you may not be warm but there is a lot to be said for dry. The boiler next to any building is asking for trouble.
Good call to heat the shop floor that gives so many advantages to the building and everything stored in it.
Thanks for commenting frank!
Yes. The new one looks to be much better.
I think the Portage and Maine unit was a gasification boiler. The CL 6048 was not as far as I remember. That is the reason for the fire brick and smaller door (smaller wood). The gasification units are more efficient as the wood gasses are burnt off in a secondary chamber that temps get extremely hot (1700F). Look up ECOBURN, TARM, etc. for how pure gasification units work. GARN is an amazing unit integrating the gasification with a huge water jacket (1500-2500 gallons). The Portage and Maine is similar at least in theory to the GARN. Other advantage of gasification units is the almost zero smoke created as all unburnt particles are burned at those temps. Only exhaust is moisture in wood. Of course the downside of this units is that they do better with drier wood.
Have you ever considered building a insulated shed/housing over/around the burner to reduce the heat loss? The cold wind must cool the thing down however well built and insulated the burner is 🤔 I have my wood chip burner in the basement of the house, the way it normally was done here in Sweden. That way whatever heat loss the burner has it goes to heat the basement and thus indirectly also the house. Nowadays people tend to build a separate well insulated burner shed or attach it to the garage to keep the dust etc away from the house. I totally agree, wood heating gives comfort and if one has his own raw material it's a no brainer 👍
sounds like a good idea, thanks for the comment!
I live in southeast so this is all foreign. Thanks for the tutorial
Very good demonstration!
This is the method, the way my best friend heats his 7 acres of greenhouses in south Georgia, but much larger, it requires so much wood we use a front end loader to fill it up. All of his system is homemade, we use a plastic PVC pipe grid in the ground pumping the warm water, and the heat rises up from the warm earth. We get our wood for free, free heat.
Like you Said wood heat is the best Because you get two heats out of it First heat cutting the tree down and piling it Then the furnace heat lol Another great video
Thank you!
I'm loving this, learning alot. What i suggest with that solenoid is to just take it apart and sand all the areas where it slides in and out of the coil and just add some good grease in there and i'm certain that thing will never go bad again. The reason they go bad is because as you discovered they stick and once they stick they tend to overheat if the slug stays in the magnetic field. Once the coil overheats then they just short out and stop working. Hope that helps yall, i'm digging you're setup!
Thank you for the info!
Central boiler CL - 17 was a Side draft. With the damper on the right side of the firebox. I’m still using mine !! It’s been a problem. But it gets lots of love and Fixed EVERY TIME IT BREAKS !!! I’m Getting a NEW PORTAGE & MAIN BOILER SOON. Just WAITING FOR IT.. DELIVERY .. IS ALL. And since CENTRAL BOILER BOUGHT OUT WOOD MASTER , I DONT WANT ANOTHER POS BRAND BOILER. THIS Next GO AROUND. As im buying this one Brand new. $13,000 new 20 Yr warranty. ! Will see hope my central can make it three spring?.. if not the new one will be installed asap after it is on my property. I guess either way outdoor boilers are the way to heat ur house. With firewood!!! Hands down !!
As the "old" saying goes,burning wood heat you twice!! Once when you cut the wood and twice when you throw the wood in the furnace!! Keep warm everyone. Thanks 😊.
Oh for sure thank you for watching stan!
I have a Wood Master 4400, installed in 1995 in Central New Hampshire a couple problems had to weld up a leak replaced the steel stack did it in the summer. I burn a lot of junk pine and pallets only use good hard wood at night , love this thing only burn about 50 gal of oil in the summer for hot water.
Nice!
Father and son? I thought they were brothers. Not just by the way, this was a very good look and description of a wood furnace, an interesting video. It looks like a lot of work burning wood, not to mention cutting, blocking and transporting the wood, but with No. 2 heating fuel 4-5 bucks a gallon I'll bet the effort is worth it.
I have to agree with you that wood heat is the best. The wood burning has a nice smell and it gives a warm cozy heat. Enjoyed your dad's explanation of the boilers and glad that your new one has a door for the ashes on the Bottom. The Ash door is smaller so like your dad said it will probably had to be emptied more often.
Probably
Nice video I got a buddy that uses one on his farm to heat his house and out houses like you up in Canada St Thomas he loves it says it's the greatest thing he's ever had.
Thank you!
Your outdoor furnaces are very impressive...heating the house and your shop is no small challenge in your climate. We've had 2 Hardy outdoor furnaces. Need to pursue getting things operational again in the off season. When we got the first one, I wondered if we'd run out of wood, but between down trees in the woods and overgrown fencerows no shortage of raw material. It was nice having all the mess outdoors and being able to use a variety of wood. A little inconvenient having to go outdoors to check the fire, but usually coordinated checks with morning and evening chores.
Excellent video! I know you will like your P & M boiler once hooked up. I purchased my Portage & Main BL28-40 conventional boiler in 2014, really like it! Easy maintenance, easy to operate and very efficient with the secondary heat exchanger. I go through around 8 full cords of red oak each year in West Central Wisconsin.
Thank you! I'm glad you like yours he is excited to try out his!
I can see the practically of these boilers but I do love my add on wood coal furnace. My friend who is 30 years my senior talked one day about heating their old farm house which was uninsulated. Every weekend they would set up the cord wood saw and 10 20 McCormick and buzzed enough wood to fill an old Dodge ton and a half ton straight truck. All that wood fed and old cast iron octopus furnace in the Michigan basement.
Great video and beautiful farm. Appreciate you providing food for all of us ! We love our boiler !!
Thank you!
Watched the whole video. Good info.
God love you guys. There are still real Men doing things for themselves and thereby creating happy lives. I love it. I'll watch your future videos often. And let me know if you ever want to come to RI and do some beach stuff (June-Sept) or saltwater fishing.
I think wood heat saves big dollars, but you have to be at home a lot to maintain it. Great video, very informative. John T.
Thats true thanks John!
If you have animals, you are home most of every day.
Great stuff guys really enjoy your videos and your last series was really 👍👍👍👍 good
Thank you!
I'm from Canada...and Portage and Main is a famous intersection in the city of Winnipeg Manitoba, known for high winds and minus 40 degree temperatures...in case you wanted to know what's behind the name.There's a famous rock star who played in the Winnipeg band called "The Guess Who" , his name is Randy Bachman...he does a song as a solo artist about "Portage and Main"...one of the lines is "Portage and Main 50 below" . In central Manitoba , 300 miles north of Portage and Main, many people use wood boilers...plenty of wood in the Boreal forests of the area.
Just checked out the song on TH-cam...it's "Prairie Town" by Bachman Turner Overdrive.
Thats all super interesting!
Wood heat is the best ever. I miss it and my wood stove. Uses the ash on my driveway to clear up the snow. It was a dirt driveway and I kept it away from my house. It will make a mess onf your floors. Also love the chainsaw holder.
It's so nice!
Good video, need to do one on that log winch. I love the Stihl saw collection!
Thank you! Some day!
Very informative thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Used an outdoor wood boiler in PA years ago. Live in the south, now and only need marginal heat in the winter months. I used to sell wood boiler parts on ebay too. I had one fellow up in Wisconsin who was mean spirited about the competition. He used to harass me quite frequently and even contact my customers to bad mouth me. Last I heard, someone was suing him.
The new boiler with the induced draft will outperform the old one as it has a more positive method to control the burn. There's good and bad in everything. If you have a source of wood these things can be quite economical.
The newer heat pumps with the inverter motors are a close second and provide year around comfort in all weather. And if you use mini-splits you can reduce or increase temps in various parts of your home and save even more. There are some of these that run directly off solar panels.
Love my outside furnance! I have a natures comfort 120. I have a shaker system and a pan I pull out to empty the ash. I can burn wood and coal in it. Your dad should redo the ash pan if he can. Make it deeper. Also since the blower is on the back scrape ashes towards the front eventually ashes will block the air from the blower
Good to know, thank you!
hi there built my boiler about 25-30 years ago . lots of work lots of wood but lots of heat and worm nice show john
Good video! A ton of information! You and your family enjoy the farm life... and be safe.
Thank you!
I have Hawken Energy boiler that is 16 years old , knock on wood , never had an issue with it and maintenance was minimal , I'm upstate NY and never take most of the ashes out . I take about 3-4 wheelbarrows worth out during entire winter and then I clean it out completely in a spring when I shut it down .I don't burn garbage either , but since I am contractor ,I do burn any lumber cut off
I thoroughly enjoyed this production👍🏼 Dad does a phenomenal job of talking and explaining as he goes about his tasks. We have been feeding two outdoor furnaces, one Central Boiler and one HeatMor. The latter is of similar design as your new one. The smaller door may take some getting use to... Mine inspired considerable profanity as I like to feed larger material when possible. However the forced air draft makes for short recovery times if the water temperature somehow drops below the desired temp.
You may even find that you won’t need to maintain the water temperature quite as high with the new one.
Great job gentlemen.
Happy Thanksgiving from our farm to yours!
Bless’ns to ya, Tedd
How long have you had your central boiler? Which one do you prefer?
@@draganarc0131 Of the two, I think the Central Boiler is the simplest and lowest maintenance unit. It is probably around twenty years old, roughly the same as our Heatmor.
@@sawsurgeon thank you for responding. I have a central boiler gasifier E-1450. I was extremely happy with it till a week ago. It sprung a leak in the firebox. It’s only 9 years old, I test the water 2 times a year clean it really well at the end of the season and even spray it with krown.
I’m currently waiting for a call back from central boiler because my dealer tells me there’s no warranty.
All the information I received with it says 25 year warranty.
@@draganarc0131 Wow, that’s very disappointing. I’ve heard great things about the gasifiers.
There must have been a flaw in the steel if it has been maintained consistently over that period of time.
I hope they return your call.
Adding that ash to field is a great practice
Look in to how many .. BTUs max can be moved thru a 1 inch line . You have a pretty big boiler you could have like 3 or 4 zones coming off it .
And it could output alot more BTUs . I have 3 zones ( runs ) averages 270,000 BTUs and I'm think of adding another . I can output 400,000 btus max .. But only running 3 - 1 inch lines . You could run 1 1/4 line also.. just a tip from 25 years running a wood boiler. I also need to add it will burn more wood also but heat output is awesome. I used 1 inch PEX aluminum PEX so inside is a full 1 inch . They have 1 1/4 PEX al PEX also.. trench heat loss has to be kept to under 1-2 degrees at 125 feet . Any more then that your trench would be taking enough wood to heat another house. Just look in to them things and it's helpful hints.
Thats all good to know!
Great video... talking is teaching
Mine’s a ‘98. Still going strong
Dad is very good at explaining things.Just curious I know those wood burners are insulated , but have you ever pointed a thermometer at the out side of it to see the heat loss? we have a couple neighbors that had them outside, then built a small leanto onto their shops for the woodburner putting a small fan in the adjoining wall into the shop ,they say it heats their shop alot of the time just with the heat coming off the woodburner
Thank You Bill! I know some people that have done that, other than the risk of fire its a good idea!
I don’t think insulation is really required around the wood stove. My outdoor wood boiler runs best when it’s super cold out. When it’s to warm around the stove the water temp rarely gets down low enough to open the damper. So the colder the better
Maybe, but the reality is that all wood burning appliances run much better (efficiently hotter) in the cold. More oxygen. Gotta learn how to capture all btus no matter what weather ~
Great job on the boiler. You will like the ash clean out. Bet when you were a kid you never thought you would make videos of your dad explaining farm life? He is good and I appreciate the story's with the tips!
Good idea thanks Adam!
I built my own wood fired boiler, inside my shop though. Radiant floor heat, simple as can be.
Great video...always interesting. My parents have the same boiler and our neighbors are deale rd s for Central Boiler.
Thank you!
I like the hex signs on your barn
Thanks
I'm from Maine, my family has a camp up on Portage Lake. But we're not in Canada, though very close! Thanks for sharing, wood heat's the best! :)
Sounds cold there! Thank you for commenting and watching the video!
Lots of experience and wisdom. Thank you so much.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for sharing. A friend of mine has similar model up the hill and probably uses a couple of gallons of oil a year at best.
Code enforcement won't let me have one down here and I find it sad.
We have a Heatmor. It's best selling point is the 409 stainless steel construction. The small door (20"x20") on it sux. It has that double door thing too. We built a ramp & a pivot to get the bigger pieces in. One bigger door would be way better. No more smashing fingers while throwing the logs in.
Ours has a hand operated ash auger. That's nice, but you still have to get inside to clean it out. Also, the auger is stored outside the boiler.
I've got big jack add on wood stove . It's made at palisade Minnesota. I like the stove , but if I had to do it again I would go the route you did. You will like that ash tray on that Canada stove
We hope so!
Very interesting and informative. Thanks.
Holy smokes I counted about 10 Stihl chainsaws. I have three one is a 028 super I rebuilt into a now modified souped up 029. Have a burner in the house so try to stay with good wood. More important I season it two years before burning.
My father likes his chainsaws!
Subbed, what a great video.
Different subject completely. I've been watching you guys for a few months. Your farm was like the one I grew up on, except door county, were flat lands and we did have as many tractors "wink". My daughter met Gerorge Jensen at Stevenson Point and they married. George's home town is Berlin WI. Your Dad knows George's Dad, Tom (or TJ) and your Mom and Dad knows George's mom Jill, a school teacher who taught your youngest brother. We are celebrating this weekend with them and couldn't wait to ask DJ if he knew you guys. I was suprised about Jill being your brothers teacher. Small world.
There should be some kind of ashtray underneath the fire. So the ashes can fall down in that. We have that in our boiler. Is much better!👍
The new one we have has it!
@@GierokFarms yes. Wenn I looked further in the video, I saw it. Well done!
Very informative video thanks for sharing.
Excellent video guys.
Thank you!
Just subscribed after finding your channel. Great info! 👍🏻
Hi guys love your video l live in Ontario Canada , have the same central bolier really happy with it.Very easy to maintain.
We are glad you like the videos thanks for watching!
Very cool...the new boiler system you purchased is from a company located where I live
Oh sweet!