What Lore Have We MISSED In FNAF? | FNAF Theory
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- This is the first video of the four part miniseries for my ULTIMATE FNAF TIMELINE! This video will cover all of the lore of the games from FNAF 1 to FNAF 4, and go as in-depth as I can. Hope you enjoy!
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Timestamps:
00:00 Let's look at all the lore of Five Nights at Freddy's
01:15 What is the lore of Five Nights at Freddy's 1?
06:12 What is the lore of Five Nights at Freddy's 2?
11:18 What is the lore of Five Nights at Freddy's 3?
17:01 What is the lore of Five Nights at Freddy's 4?
19:47 What are the major takeaways so far?
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The style of this video is similar to Fuhnaff, Pastra, FusionZGamer, and uhyeah. A large influence on this channel has been Wendigoon, Game Theory, Markiplier, and Dawko.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Let's look at all the lore of Five Nights at Freddy's
01:15 What is the lore of Five Nights at Freddy's 1?
06:12 What is the lore of Five Nights at Freddy's 2?
11:18 What is the lore of Five Nights at Freddy's 3?
17:01 What is the lore of Five Nights at Freddy's 4?
19:47 What are the major takeaways so far?
Your the fnaf theorist that factors in human emotion and the conspiracy side
Your cats are the best thing ever
I think it would be a good video if you PLLLLLLEEEESSSSEEE did a theory on inde cross it would be amazing so PPLLLLEEEESSSSEEE make a video on that PLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEESSSSE IM SUBED AND EVRYTHING
Good video but yeesus put the poor kitteh down ;-;
Only Fnaf 1-4 are video games if we’re saying that’s correct. SL verifies existence of FNAF 3 and 4, through secrets and its ending. FNAF 3 has animatronic masks of FNAF 1 and 2.
Honestly i respect anybody that attempts to solve the fnaf lore or make theories on lore that we might have missed, because it’s such a mess lmao.
The main issue is how contradictory it is 🫠
@@RyeToast And no one really thinks about how much rentcons Scott has made in the series.
@@JD_Xly Scott never made any kind of defenses or corrections outside of the games. He just presented often contradictory facts in the games and it was the playerbase that got worked up about timeline consistency. He's still not making any effort to enforce any kind of his own canon if the liberties taken by Steel Wool are any indication.
Now the collaborators and fangame devs have done a lot of lore clarifying on social media, that much is true, but Scott himself almost never does. He just throws out hooks here and there and lets everyone else run as wild as they want. He'll probably step in if someone takes things in a direction that is 100% sympathetic to William Afton and pushes the narrative that the 5 kids deserved it though.
@@jshtng78 true
Respect them?
I fear them.
looking only into the lore of the first 4 games is so wild because its all so simple and relatively easy to solve in comparison to modern fnaf
Oh no we're going all the way to Ultimate Custom Night, I just ran out of time for a weekly video edited by me 😅
Its so insane to think how mind blowing it used to feel. Like FNAF 2's hidden lore at that point felt like cracking codes in a bunker, but nowadays you'd be laughed at for considering it 'hidden' lol. Crazy to think about
@@RyeToast yeah i know :) i just meant this video alone
@@breezyq6449 it is still hidden, if you consider hidden to include scrapped/ half finished being re-written.
@@madnessguy1300 Oh, for sure it's hidden. I mean more that the community sees it to be almost trivial to find, if that makes sense.
I have no idea how your cat can chill like that😂 She absolutely HATES it when I hold her/ pick her up. She just prefers sitting nearby and judging me😂😂
He wasn't feeling it today either as you'll see lol
God i just came here to comment about how freaking stressed out i am by how he handles his cat lmao thats a one way ticket to scratch city from my house
some cats are just like that, but if you hold them the right way it can help them feel more comfortable. no guarantees tho
your cat wants to participate in what you're doing :)
I was just about to say that cat is chill I bet she's sweet too
A piece of evidence I think is worth pinning is the fact Mangle is both active during Save Them and also present in the "sister" room in FNaF 4, especially given some later points that may point to the FNaF 4 Fredbear Location and the FNaF 2 Fazbeat Location being open at the same time
Totally fair! I'll bring this up in the third video. Mind if I shout you out?
@@RyeToast feel free!
Also that Mangle is more taken a part than normally seen.
Fnaf 2 was open for 2 weeks being 9th November 1987-23rd December 1987, fnaf 4 happens in fall 1983, they can't be at the same time
@@tomkubus FNaF 2 REOPENED for 2 weeks, that location existed beforehand
I like to use the whole “games made by indie developer” thing as a way to explain off design inconsistencies
Very valid. It's basically a get out of jail free card
@@RyeToast god knows that Scott needs a way to explain why ScrapTrap looks like that
@@TheHolyTreeMan. don't remind me about Willy Peanut
I thought that was the whole intent behind it.
@@infinitedm5396 I think at first they wanted to simplify the timeline but then like, decided not too
I feel like the idea of Henry taking the fall for the murders would make a lot of sense. He would naturally be a suspect as well besides Afton, since he's so related to the running of the business and animatronics. This would have been a good opportunity for Afton to frame him in multiple ways. And it definitely gives a good reason he was so absent throughout the games until Pizzeria Simulator. Perhaps even he escaped from prison, and that's why he needed someone else to run the FNAF 6 Pizzeria, to stay undercover. Or even if he was released legally, he needed to hide his reputation for the business to be successful.
I think the time skip between fnaf 1 and 3 is very easily explained with that convict newpaper clipping. It would make sense that if the culprit was found its how Fazbear entertainment was able to exist long term
Oh that's fair, and even if it was the wrong guy, the fact that William is in a back room all that time. No one else would think that it was the wrong guy cause the murders stopped
@@RyeToast The books outright state that Henry was fingered for the crime but released due to lack of evidence and interestingly the theory that someone else took the blame for the murders predated the books. It always felt that particular detail was either a nod to the fan theory or a confirmation of it.
@@verdantmistral442 RyeToast is only looking at the games for this video series.
@@syweb2 I wanted to point out that while the books established the idea outright, the theories around the games at the time had already come up with the possibility.
Interestingly, thinking on this a bit more. Knowing now that Afton ran the company, that sort of implies the person in the newspapers could have been Afton.
About FNAF 1 and 3 Time skip, if FNAF 1 does take place one of the dates seen in 2:23, then it places FNAF 3 in either, 2000, 2011, 2017, 2022, 2028, 2039, 2045 or……2050.
I know Rye already concluded on which date FNAF 1 Takes place in the video, but I just wanted to point this out.
RyeToast uploads are just a ritual watch at this point. I like this method of looking at the lore. Plus watching him gesture with the cats is never a boring time. Still ending up watching twice because of the cats supernatural distraction power. I enjoy the baking theme in the intros too, always charming
Thank you!!!! ♥️😭
SO REAL
An odd detail for the FNaF 4 minigames is that there seem to be multiple of each animatronic. While this makes sense (in case one breaks), it's still interesting.
Especially because a phone log directly says they are unique and only a few are made
@@RyeToast Saw this on Reddit, in the FNAF 4 parts and service minigame there's a spring bonnie head that looks very similar to Glitchtrap. Not sure if that has any real significance though.
Also, is it possible that the "irrelevant suit" is Glitchtrap? There's no better way to prevent springlock failures than removing them.
@@andrew_animation It sounds quite strong but something makes me want to say it can't be. FNAF lore suggests that Afton preferred wearing the Springtrap costume (although you can add and subtract to that based on how you see the novels). If he was using the Springtrap suit to stuff children, then why wouldn't that be possessed and/or inaccessible (being stuffed with a dead body)? Although, perhaps the theory that Golden Freddy is possessed by two happens to be false. In that case, we could draw some conclusions on the origin of Shadow Bonnie. Perhaps "the one you shouldn't have killed" never was very far from Afton after all. Who knows?
@@punishedkid Technically Glitchtrap is a Spring Bonnie suit, maybe he used it at some point? Thing is, murder is typically bloody. Why doesn't that set off his suit? Even breathing can cause it, maybe he uses spring bonnie to lure and then removes it? I guess it's just an oversight.
@@andrew_animation Glitchtrap looks _nothing_ like a Spring Bonnie suit. It is very form-fitting and visibly stitched together. An animatronic endoskeleton cannot fit inside that thing.
just remember that while the killer being convicted is usually overlooked, that detail may have changed as the story grew more complicated, so just be careful
In the books, (mainly the silver eyes) he was arrested and later released due to lack of evidence. But according to the cop who did the arrest he 100% did it.
@@Pygargue00fr very cool but this is just game lore (I forgot about that bit though)
@@nbclover7880 I kown, we as a community just dosn't want to acknolege the book series exist for a million reasons, but hey the arrested part is still canon at least:)
Did FNAF start to become a mess from Sister Location or FNAF 6?
@@graffiti.777 FNAF 4
I LOVE this video. The biggest problem with the fnaf theory community is that so many use everything BUT the games when coming up with resources. I love the use of pure facts, feels like we’re back in 2016
Also to note, the backroom where afton dies has arcade machines in them. So when they mentioned scanning circuit boards in the later ones it was probably those. He did bleed all over the place when the suit clamped down.
Ooooo I had never thought about that
One important thing to note with the FNAF 2 cutscenes: If you brighten the Freddy mask we look out of it’s actually purple. This is important because it shows we are looking through the eyes of shadow Freddy, and at one point shadow Freddy changed its form from reflecting that of Withered Golden Freddy to FNAF 1 Freddy/Golden Freddy
In the FNAF 3 STAGE 01 mini game: All the rooms contain a stage the two animatronics and an audience of 3 kids. However on one of the screens the middle kid is absent. Weather this is a retelling of the kid who possesses the puppet getting murdered, the crying child getting killed at the bite of 83, or a new victim is unknown.
The Nightmare Foxy image has 2093 in the source code if you take each of those digits and subtract 1 from it you get 1982.
I forget if it was in the same teaser of the next one of Fredbear but the text at the bottom saying “Copyright 2014 Scott Cawthon” was changed to “Copyright 0871 Scott Cawthon” Again if you take each digit and this time add 1 to it you get 1982.
1982 is an important date in FNAF 4 that nearly the entirety of the community has forgotten.
(And yes you can credit me)
Wow great that you noticed that
Also another thing is that phone guy says the originals were around for 20 years….The MCI happens in 1983…..many people say that FNAF Is in 1993 making the game 10 years after the MCI Incident…..If one of the years at 2:32 are correct…..we can deduce that the MCI Incident happens in
1952.
1962
1974
1980
1991
1997
Or 2002
Because if you calculate
1970-1960
1981-1972 .
1992-1982 .
1988-1978 .
2009-1999.
2015-2005
Our answer will be 10.
@@adammartinez8061 The established date of the MCI is 1985. Freddy Fazbear's Pizza was established in 1983 though. The second batch of child murders was in 1987 though.
@@revolv8379
Oh ok. I typed
1960.
1972 .
1982.
1972
1999
2005
Or 2013
Because if FNAF 1 take place in one of those years at 2:32. Then it shakes up the missing children’s date knowing that The Children were killed 2 years after Freddy’s was established.
@@adammartinez8061 FNAF 1 has widely been considered to have been taking place in 1993 for a long time. You're reading too much into it. 1983 is confirmed date of Fazbear Entertainment being established, 1985 is confirmed first (main) MCI, and phone guy saying 20 years is either an exaggeration or referring to Fredbear's which had existed at the very LATEST by the mid-late 80's. The dates in the video aren't meant to be taken at 100% value
[ I think it might be worth mentioning that in fnaf 3, fazbears is referred to as an " ancient franchise " ]
Fair. Mind if I shout you out when I add this in the third video?
@@RyeToast[ not at all :]
Wonder what they consider ancient.
30 yrs
Honestly, you're my new favorite Fnaf oriented channel. You give me kind, laid-back vibes, your style of explaining things is easy to understand, I like the way you established your Toasty theming, which make your videos unique.
Oh, and Cats. I love how chill they're the most of time
It's hard because we _all know_ that Scott didn't have this timeline figured out at the time most of these games actually _came out._ Thus, putting together a coherent FNAF timeline inevitably requires a lot of shaky retcons and stuff like that.
Comprehensive FNAF timeline videos like this are _super_ ambitious and hard to make. I envy you; I could never do it. Awesome video.
(it just autocorrected "video" to "bicep" and I was very tempted to just leave it as "awesome bicep" 😂)
Scott said he only retconned once during FNaF 1-6, and the retcon seemed seamless. If this is the case, then the most likely retcon would be Scott ruling out the Dream Theory Timeline in favor of the new Sci-Fi Timeline.
@@reiwhirlwind115 Yeah, I don’t buy it lol, his definition of retcon isn’t the same as everyone else or he just want to seem clever (like “look! I’ve planned everything and everything makes sense, you guys just can’t put the pieces together, but they are there!”). Help Wanted’s lore now can be use to excuse pretty much everything that doesn’t make sense on the first 7 games because they were games inside the games and now we don’t know for sure what really happened and what didn’t. Even Puppet’s gender has been retconned (unless Henry’s daughter is our trans icon)
@@fallenwarlock2418 In Puppet and The One You Shoul Not Have Killed's case, my theory is that the others are refering to their animatronics' gender (Puppet and Fredbear) instead of their spirits' (Charlie and Cassidy).
Thanks man! And yeah, it's gonna be rough. My rule of thumb is always trust the most recent lore more. So if there's a contradiction, lean towards most recent entries. Because like you said, it's VERY clear he was flying by the seat of his pants until at least like, FNAF Sister Location 😂
It is so refreshing to see somebody separate UCN to Help Wanted when this fandom has gone insane trying to tie everything, including the inexplicable and horrendous ''lore'' of Security Breach, into one big thing. FFPS/UCN was very clearly the end of the story, Scott went as far as calling it UCN a 'book-end' epilogue in his interview...yet apparently Help Wanted isn't a reboot/separate continuity.
This is one of the most methodical and well-structured FNaF lore videos I've ever seen, no books, no bullshit, all facts - although I will say, I came to the very same conclusion about the ''convict'' being Henry a few years back...definitely feels like the most logical explanation of that plot point.
I look forward to the rest of this series, I've never seen this channel before but I'm definitely subscribing for it :D
One piece of information I always found interesting is that Scott said people solved FNAF 1, 2, and 3 but didn't really solve FNAF 4. We are missing huge chuncks of the lore because of FNAF 4 and imo everything is wrong until we solve FNAF 4
That's because everyone still thinks it's a dream for some reason even though sister location proves that theory wrong.
@@AveryHyenait not being a dream makes no sense. I understand sister location confirms that the map from fnaf 4 is real but I just don’t understand how it could’ve actually happened.
@@liviwaslost He means that a lot of people believed dream theory. It wasn't until later that people put together that the protagonist was FoxyBro, even though the evidence in 4 supports that. Scott had to provide additional information.
Help Wanted explicitly walked back the claim that the games weren't canon in the cassette tapes.
I'm not asserting that the games aren't Canon, I'm just asserting that we can't fully trust what they say in the new timeline. Because even if they are based on real events, somebody made them.
Not entirely. It just states the fact that the games were developed under contract rather than by a rogue developer. This makes them even more likely to not be true since Fazbear Entertainment would be an even more unreliable source of information.
@@verdantmistral442 You're stopping too early. Why would Fazbear entertainment create games that give them negative publicity? The thing that makes Fazbear an unreliable source is their self-interest in profit. That's clearly not happened here.
@@JD-xz1mx They explain that in the tapes. The games were contracted to mislead and make fun of the happenings.
This can have the effect of diluting public opinion on the negative. It was a deliberate attempt at covering up what happened by blurring the lines.
This has actually had good effect in real life cover ups. By making a joke of the whole thing it can be normalized or made to look ridiculous. Look at the whole McDonald's Coffee lawsuit for example.
In the end, they wanted to discredit the rumors by saturating the public consciousness with the games which blurs the lines between the truth and the false parts of the events. Once the truth is muddied by the false, it becomes easy to hand wave it. "No kids were stuffed into animatronics, you are just talking about what happened in that silly game."
@@verdantmistral442 yeah totally agree there, I think it useful to look at what isn’t in help wanted that was in the others. Some interesting things that give detail to the super broad strokes of the gameplay.
Also that poor woman, she need skin grafts on her whole lap, still can’t believe people think the lawsuit was a joke.
I wish when they went back and remasfered the games, they added more lore into them - tying up some questions, showing us more events, and getting rid of some confusion
Something I noticed while watching was that the crying child’s bedroom layout in the mini game from FNAF 4 did not match the bedroom that the core gameplay takes place in. Depending on your take this could be just because of the whole hospital thing, but if you don’t see it as a nightmare or fever dream or different location, then that could imply it isn’t the crying child’s bedroom you survive the nights in. Or the room was just simplified for the mini games lol
Or the room wasn't in the same house.
Like, what if the Crying Child's parents were divorced and we are seeing one parent's house in the mini-games and the other in the main game.
@@verdantmistral442 doesnt make sense
Sister Location seems to imply they are two different locations. When considering the houses, it seems that CC and the older brother don't live together, but they still live extremely close (close enough for the brother to be able to torment his brother daily). It could also be that they live on separate floors of the same house, or something like that. FNAF: HW suggests that the Plushtrap room is possibly at the end of the hallway where the FNAF 4 gameplay takes place, but seems to retcon the "kitchen" location.
We can also think about the Midnight Motorist minigame which seems to reflect the design of CC's house a lot, but is still relatively unique.
Obviously attempting to make a timeline (or timelines) for FNAF is not a new idea but I really like how you're taking it one game at a time. A lot of people, myself included, look at the older lore go in with the assumptions we made based on later games. Taking each and every piece from every game and letting it sit on its own is really cool. I look forward to the rest of this series.
A few things you missed :
The springtrap cutscene happens no matter if you do the secret minigames.
Phone guy welcomes you to your "new summer job", but the checks imply that it takes place in November.
In fnaf 4, a distorted version of the fnaf 1 phone call plays.
Also in 4,the room we play in is not the same as the CCs bedroom
Less of a fnaf 1-4 fact, but when asked if the good or bad 3 ending was Canon, Scott said that it was "complicated"
Withered golden Freddy is a thing, and you kinda skipped over the phantoms
I love how you’re explaining all of this while holding your cats lol
This is gonna sound random, but your microphone looks like the scooper lol
Honestly I see it lol
The idea of looking back at the previous games to pick apart all the lore details as they were introduced in order to(hopefully) reach a more cohesive conclusion is something I have thought about a few years ago, it's nice to see someone else deciding to do it.
I would like to present some information to you that I'd like to hear your thoughts on, in a Help Wanted death screen on the TV there is a message that says "Nothing was ever proven in a court of law." - could this indicate that because the bodies were never found, that he wasn't sent to jail? or do you think this is talking about something else? I'm curious what you think!
Great video btw, love your content :)
That's a good point, and it does back up the book interpretation a lot of people have been giving out
Feel like there might be a bit more to squeeze out of FnaF 4, though depends more on if you're trying to cover absolutely everything or this is more a main points that continue to tie together (like, the box, but that doesn't seem to matter so much? )
Also I honestly have no idea, I don't play FnaF, I dislike horror. But enjoying watching you piece it together, and it's awesome to be reminded of these little things from the past.
Henry being arrested instead seems more likely to me, but doesnt make sense how he got convicted. But that conviction really seems like something good to dig into. Until next time, awesome as always. ^_^
Oh my god, I totally forgot about the box. The hell lol. Miss the forest for the trees there. I'll add that in the third video, mind if I shout you out?
@@RyeToast I don't mind, though don't feel you have to shout me out either. I guess for sanity check, did you remember the "chika lost her beak" message and the other, non-fredbear animatronics? I mean, I don't know if they matter, but those were the other things I though of (and if there are no other animatronic nightmares in FnaF 4, my actual knowledge is showing). Also there's so much ,don't feel bad missing something. ^_^
I still think the box was basically the explanation to first four games story, but Scott ultimately decided that revealing the truth would take away the fun of the debates and discoveries.
That's how it happened when Hyrule Historia laid out the Legend of Zelda series timeline. It sort of killed the theories and the debate around it. Kind of took the fun out of the discussion.
There's a recording of the first phoneguy call from fnaf 1 that plays backward during the nights sometimes. Specificly the one that mensions the bite of 87
Love your approach, sometimes the best way to tackle FNAF lore is to swipe the table clean and start from square 1. I very much appreciate the methodical and careful way you're combing through the games and just building up an idea of the lore. I think being unafraid to refresh and completely rebuild ones understanding of the lore is absolutely a must for any FNAF theorist worth their salt nowadays.
As a person who rewatches old lore videos cuz I forget what lore is from what game, I respect these videos and I shall watch them all
I wouldn't be surprised if you suddenly had a surge of popularity in the fnaf community like Fuhnaff did a few months back. Good luck on your timeline!
Also If FNAF 1 is in 2023 then this implies Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy were around since 2003…. right?
Phone guy: If I sang those same stupid songs for about 20 years”
I just thought of something interesting about FNAF 2. What if the reason the Toy animatronics went crazy and aggressive is because the parts that were borrowed from the Withered animatronics to repair the toys were infused with some of the remnant from the missing children's incident?
We can assume that the Withered animatronics are already possessed because they leave the Parts and Services room to kill the nightguard, but it's not really confirmed why the Toy animatronics attack us. We could only guess that it's because someone tampered with their facial recognition software. But maybe it's the remnant from the parts borrowed from the Withered animatronics that messed with the facial recognition software and caused them to attack.
henry being convicted and going to jail actually makes perfect sense… it explains why he wasn’t there for most of the franchise until YEARS after everything happened with pizza sim.
Ok, great job with attempting the probably most complex and detailed lore to ever (and probably will ever) exist, always impressed with ppl when they attempt this, good job, proud of you, but the cat.... I kept getting distracted by it's head wobbling around as Rye kept animating is hands 🤣🤣🤣
As a kid of the 80s, I can assure you we would watch and re-watch VHS tapes from years prior. They weren't cheap and we've watch tapes from the '80s into the early '00s without thinking it was strange. Now a days we are use to the idea of a more constant stream of content, but back then it wasn't as abundant. I still think 1983 is pinning FNAF4 as "in the 80s" and is meant to act as a stop-sign that it's not a decade earlier or a decade later.
I'd also argue that if your dad owned a franchise and got excess merch and VHS tapes that it would not be surprising that that stuff would end up getting shoved on his children. I could imagine crying child wanting to rent a movie from block buster and drunk Afton is like; "WE HAVE CARTOONS AT HOME"
William may have been sent to prison, but he might've been released due to lack of evidence.
Possibly
Did a little brainstorming about the FNAF 1 headline about someone being convicted for the murders. I think Henry is the only reasonable person to have been falsely convicted. In the insanity ending, Henry seems to have been able to put some pieces together of what William has done, but is not entirely certain how. To me this seems like he would have been absent for a while, potentially serving a prison sentence. Phone Guy mentions they can't contact the original owners, which could support this as well. If we were to assume Henry is arrested after the original 5 missing children, that would take place somewhere from 1983-1987 (correct me if I'm wrong). Considering FNAF 6 is speculated to be somewhere around 2023, that would be around 40 years (could be a reasonable sentence). There is a lot of speculation of course and it's likely possible to find more concrete evidence to either disprove or support this but I just thought it was interesting and thought I would share.
That's a pretty nice compilation of evidence, I like it. It's good to take a look back at the raw data to find any wrong "facts" that we just accept without verifying.
About FNaF2, I think it's worth noting that "someone tampered with the animatronics" it more of a guess. Shortly after, we learn that the robots are aggressive towards adults but friendly to kids - it might be solely about the ghosts.
Another thing - I think talking about "two Shadow Animatronics" has mislead the community a bit, I don't believe they were ever meant to be a set like that. There are clear differences: Pitch black versus Purple. Withered versus Toy. Game crash versus no crash. I don't consider them a set of two, but rather a set of multiple easter egg characters in FNaF2. That includes Bonnie and Freddy, but also JJ, Endoskeleton, and even the Paper Pal Guy. It's a set of five "character-like" easter eggs in FNaF2, and they're the ONLY easter eggs in the game. I think that's worth noting.
In your FNaF3 explanation there was a minor mistake too - the final in-between minigame where the Purple Guy dies happens regardless of the ending. It's not "unlockable", it just happens after Night 5.
You know, totally fair points all around. And thank you;
Another thing that may be important: FNaF 2 phone calls are recorded messages telling events that happened in the summer (we play in november) which implies that the pizzeria closed a while ago because of the investigation and Jeremy is guarding the restaurant during the investigation or something (the place is closed to the public). Great video!
Really good work on this video, but I wanted to bring something up that I don't think I've seen anyone talk about unless you have at some point. Phone guy in fnaf 2 says "welcome to your new summer job" while your paycheck is in November, which means that the investigation and lockdown he mentions happened a few months before we actually play the events of fnaf 2. I'm not sure what that means for the timeline but just sort of interesting to look at
i swear to god, this tiny ignored detail has stuck with me for 8 years now. what does it MEAN
@@ediblefredible I KNOW!!!!!!
@@nemnogotupitsa311 i actually do remember people calling attention to it at the time, for sure. but once the next game was out it didn't take long for it to fade into obscurity forever lol. at this point it's not exactly gonna change anything, but part of me will always still want an answer because i find that detail so intriguing (for whatever reason)
you know it’s a good day when RyeToast uploads
♥️
Also thx for taking in the time for working on this stuff man.
It's worth it to see how much you guys enjoy it!
Its crazy seeing you grow as a content creator bc ive been here before you got big!!! Im so proud of you, your theories and videos keep getting better and better :)
Love this!!!
I'm glad you've been along for the ride! Thank you!
Scott already confirmed the old games are still canon to the timeline and that they weren't just games in universe. The games in Help Wanted just make fun of those events and aren't even the same as the games we have irl.
I LOVE these videos feels like I'm in 4rd grade again and I'm arguing with my classmates whether or not there's going to be a fifth game
It's a nostalgia trip for sure. I'm glad you like it!
I like the way you cover the already-existing pins with the board texture. I don’t know why…
You can also work out in FNAF 1 that Chica killed phone guy based on the order of noises. (The left door was closed meaning Foxy and Bonnie are out, Freddy’s music means he’s in the kitchen, and the moaning means Chicas in the office)
One topic people never talk about 9s the lack of lore in the first game. But I think this is just because it was just a setup for the story and Scott was still trying to figure it out
It's also probably because he didn't think the story would have time to develop
Nice to see someone at least entertain the idea that the "1983" on the television hints at something other than that being the current year, since everything else very much fits the events in the minigames being the "Bite of '87" and not some random bite of the same caliber that happened only 4 years earlier even though the supposed second bite is the one that became infamous and yet if we're to believe 1983 is meant to date the minigame, then that means we have quite literally never seen anything to do with the more infamous bite.
I thought the bite of 87 was when the night guard gets his head bitten by mangle in FNAF 2?
very happy to see this channel growing so much lately, keep up the quality stuff
Great job looking at it all (or at least FNaF 1-4 in this vid) I think with things getting crazy in the lore nowadays, it’s important to look back at how we got to that point and if there’s anything we missed
I think restricting the payment day in FNAF 1 to only Fridays is a bit of a leap; if anything, I would use Thursday, which you mentioned as a payday in one of the later games. Although the exact year might not be necessary.
So glad that you are maing these videos! My new year’s resolution will be to know more FNaF lore 😂
I'm glad! And good luck with that!
can't wait for the next parts of this series! great job!
Thank you!! I'll try to follow it up!
@@RyeToast I plan to make a fan made fazbear frights book series of my own in the future
11:21 THAT MARIO PARTY DS MUSIC BROUGHT ME BACKK MAN WHY DID YOU THROW ME THROUGH SUCH A NOSTALGIA TRIP
I have never played these games or plan to play these games but I have an unexplainable fascination by this franchise’s lore.
Cat looking adorable as usual.
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CONGRATS ON 49.5K MY MAN!!! YOU'RE ALMOST THERE!!
THANK YOU ITS WILD
@@RyeToast YOU'RE GONNA GET THERE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR
Awesome Video.
I was hoping I could pitch you a crazy idea.
So I'll shoot my shot, what do you think about the Daycare Attendant from Security Breach being Balloon Boy? Like actually both versions of Balloon Boy with BB being Sun and Nightmare BB being Moon?
I mean I think there is a connection there. The arcade machine in the secret room above the Daycare features Balloon Boy following Glitchtrap and ending on the Daycare attendants face.
I think this would explain both the split personality of the Daycare Attendant as well as give meaning to the arcade machine that hasn't been solved yet.
So many people wrote the BB arcade off as unfinished, but I think Steel Wool would have removed it, if that were the case.
Which is why I think the arcade machine is an allegory for Glitchtrap putting BB and Nightmare BB into the Daycare Attendant.
I really hope you see this!
I can definitely see sun moon being an extension of the idea behind BB and Nightmare BB. But idk if they're one in the same. Mainly because Nightmare BB I don't think was ever made real to be haunted
@@RyeToast I mean, Nightmarionne wasn't "real" by normal standards, and yet so many of those staffbots are dressed up like Nightmarionne, with the writing "In your dreams" on their chests. Maybe SB is trying to imply that FNaF 4 is a bit more real than we might have originally thought...
@@DeletedUser_0000 I'm saying it happened after he was Glitchtrap. The time between Help Wanted & Security Breach.
@@DeletedUser_0000 or BB/Daycare Attendant was his test/experiment before doing it to himself.
This feels like David Lynch's Twin Peaks on the lore side due to how convoluted it is and how much details you need to extract the prime meaning the creator wanted, but at the same time is that David Lynch already had a layout for the story/plot and made them as surreal but still understandable without any plot holes.
I think I remember the older models also not being used due to being too scary looking for the children, it being the main reason why the toys had the more cutesy rounded faces and brighter colored look than the withereds and their sharper faces and faded darker colors and were quoted to be ugly. I think I remember phone guy stating why the old models were temporarily retired while he was ranting on about Foxy being his favorite and that they ruined him with the mangled replacement and whatnot lol.
I’ve been watch your vids for a couple week and I got to say your theory and facts of the timeline are awesome. That’s why I subscribed 🎊
One thing I didn’t hear you mention for Fnaf 2 is that on the first day, Phone Guy says “Uh, hello and welcome to your new summer job,” despite it being November. Then again, I might just be really bad at recalling information😅
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Theory to why the animatronics attack you in FNaF 2.
Along with the "never given a night mode" lore drop, coupled with the "wander for noise", I'd say the reason they attack you is either due to the endoskeleton thing, OR due to them seeing you as either someone in a restricted access area (thus, a potential thief who must be neutralised) or as the person who committed the Bite of '87 (in the case of the withered animatronics and maybe the puppet?)
My working theory is that the parts from the old models leaked remnant into the toys, but we'll wait to see
@@RyeToast Oh fuck I forgot about remnant.
...Do we have to remember remnant?
@@yazidefirenze given that it becomes important to FNAF sister location yes, sadly
You my friend have just earned a new subscriber! Very much enjoyed everything about this video. Your presentation is entertaining and I love any content surrounding the admittedly messy lore of this pizza franchise haha. Good luck on the future parts, I'm looking forward to them! ^^
Thank you and welcome! I'm glad you liked it
@@RyeToast ;; Aww, you're so sweet, thank you!
One thing that I think is important to consider is that FNaF 2 welcomes you to a summer job. November isn’t summer. We later learn that FNaF takes place in SW Utah, where summer jobs end in July, August, or September. You’re at least 2 people and 2 months removed from Phone Guy being a security guard.
Friday the 13th was such a clever catch that I never thought about. November 13 in 1987 was a Friday so it makes sense that is a way to find the year of the first game.
Loving this editing, dude! While I did love watching you pet your cat while you talked, it did start getting a little old.
I love how this video was formatted as well. It kept me intrigued the whole time. If you are ever able to, I am looking forward to you possibly getting into the books! The books are... weird. Springtrap is referred to as "Springtrap" in both a Fazbear Frights stories and a Tales from the Pizzaplex story, which further supports Fnaf 3 being a game inside of a game.
Haven't watched the whole video yet but I just wanna say that the check in FNAF 2 being dated for Thursday isn't all that weird as the place I currently work has Thursday as a payday.
I just came across your channel the other night, and I am in love with the editing style and flow of the videos! This is my 3rd time watching this video already. Keep it up 🖤
I remember that at some point in FNAF 4, there is a chance where you hear a distorted version of FNAF 1 phone dude's phone call from first night.
In my opinion The lore peaked with the original trilogy and fnaf 4 ruined with its characters that go nowhere, the 20 plot holes in the game, and the extreme lack of resolution.
I don't think it peaked at FNAF 3, but I do think the most succinct story told ends at FNAF 3
@@RyeToast When do you think the lore peaked?
@@ark_awaits3367 The Henry speech
@@RyeToast Facts
Afton’s lawyer has to be Saul Goodman
The gesturing while holding ur cat?? Iconic. How is your cat so chill???
0:28 I love how hes just causally just holding a cat lol 🤷♀️
I love the cat being moved about
He did not today apparently lol
So a new theory that I just thought about is that William didn't even knew that he would free the souls. From the moment he got out of prison he went on a rampage. He destroyed Henry's creations (fnaf 1 animatronics), that's why he was so shocked when he saw the 5 souls, he didn't do it on purpose.
Hm. That's not a bad idea. I mean even if he knows about Remnant, he couldn't have predicted the spirits
The cat is on a roller coaster and is the calmest I’ve ever seen a cat 😂
The video aside, your cat was being shooketh in the intro XD
Love it.
However, your video has earned you a new subscriber! :D
Something to mention that’s very notable in that it may just be one timeline, in the help wanted part of the pizza plex books(something of which Matpat misinterpreted) fnaf four wasn’t finished in it, and that they wanted this guy to be as faithful to the actual lore while taking some creative liberties in gameplay
Which explains what cassette tape girl says where it’s an elaborate coverup.
Also something else of note, for some reason bonnie and Freddy has a button on them as well in fnaf 3’s minigame. And with how the plushies too also has those buttons, it’s possible that the animatronics shown in fnaf 3 minigames is actually fnaf 2 animatronics
Though seeing help wanted show the phantoms as fnaf 1 characters for classic characters with some fnaf 2, I think it’s only in minigame that shows the withered animatronics
Man, I don't wanna wait a week
Sorry! I can only edit so much in a week
I don't know how you organized this clusterfuck of a series so well lol. I've been watching FNaF theory videos since 2014 and this is probably one of the best I've seen honestly.
This burnt bit of bread has made me watch all his videos. You’re one of the few people on TH-cam where I become proper relaxed when watching, and I’ve been watching so many. Thank you Mr Toast man
Actually about some of phone calls. I recently watched a compilation of the Fnaf phone calls. There’s one little line in Fnaf 2 that I think is sorta interesting. I’m pretty sure it’s on the Night that Wither Foxy is active. The Phone Guy mentioned that. He always liked Foxy back in the day. It was his “favorite”. Just I wanted to throw out. Cause I think a lot missed this line.
Other stuff I think is worth looking into. During the last Fnaf 2 phone call. It’s said that Phone Guy might take the Nightshift next. I heard a lot of people say he takes the night shift in the “Next location” but he doesn’t say next location. He just said he’ll take it ‘next”period. Kinda makes you wonder if Fritz Smith during the 7th night. Is actually just Phone Guy with his real name.
Also someone else in the comments already said this. But to back it up too. The fact we see a figure of Mangle/Toy Foxy in Fnaf 4 mini games. Even they shouldn’t exist if this way in the past. Implies that maybe Fnaf 4 and Fnaf 2 takes place near each other in the timeline. Adding to that we also smaller figures of the other Toy animatronics. Including Toy Chica.
If you talk with some of NPCs in the mini games if 4. One of them(a girl I think) mentions hearing rumors of the Animatronics coming to life at night and stuffing people into suits. Kinda makes you wonder if maybe the animatronics are already haunted by now in Fnaf 4. A good chance the disappearances already happened during this time.
Back in the days when Mikevictim was popular, people liked to use this line to point out Phone Guy is Mike's bigger brother. A big NO because Phone Guy worked with the springlock suits and knows how dangerous they are. Today this line is nothing more than a red herring.
in the fourth game should it be mentioned about the state of animatronic toys and plushies? I know i’m taking outside information from Scott here but he did say that Chica’s beak on the floor was significant, Mangle is broken up in the sister’s room etc. It just reminds me of MatPat’s dream theory that I still 100% believe that Scott meant to be canon but he kept the series going
That's fair, a few folks have pointdd that out. I'll make sure to add it
i love the way your cat is just bobbing with your movement at the start of the video XDD
Omg, I blew up like a pie when I realized you're holding your cat like they're not even in your hand-
Seeing them bob and flop like that was awesome-
such a great video, just wish i could watch the other 3 parts already lmao
Lol sorry, they need a lot more time in the oven
Let's go on a search for that Time Traveling Ballpit!
@@RyeToast nah I totally get it lmao, quality over quantity
BRO HOLDS HIS CAT FOR THE WHOLE VIDEO
SUBBED
Didn't last the whole video but I tried 😞
@@RyeToast They're being held for the whole video in our hearts
I cannot stop giggling at the adorable Kitty holding on for dear life. His owner talks with his hands and hes just along for the ride.😂
Your videos LITERALLY summon me to watch them, it's like whenever I get a notification for your video, I come here and watch it.
I'm glad you like them!
the cat performance lmfao
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Sometimes I just can't help but watch the cats, and pretend their talking, when you're waving them around like that 😭😭😭😭
Surely he is
I love how when he talks w his hands the cat just bounces around & doesn’t even care
i think the idea that henry got arrested is interesting because it explains his long absence from the series
Bruh my Wi-Fi came back on at the right time
I'm glad!
*drags Horsey the dead horse animatronic over*
Honestly there's a few new things in here I think
16:18 you can actually access any minigame in no particular order, certain elements wont appear if you haven't done certain things (you cant give cake if you havent gotten the cake from mangles quest, theres no balloon platforms if you havent gotten the rainbow balloon, and you cant complete happiest day if you havent given cake to every kid, with the kids you havent given cake to being missing)
This is a great video, I love how you created the cork boards. I also noticed the faint Mario party music in the back 😂 reminds me of being in the item shop