Twitch Vocal Coach Reacts to Floor Jansen singing "Monolith of Doubt" (After Forever, 2002)
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Thank you Marc!!! As always :)
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21 there, pushing 40 now, and aged like a fine wine.
Absolutely agree! Nightwish would be the best cask and Tuomas a fantastic winemaker who makes Floor shine even more.
Her birthday is in Feb.
i KNEW HER SINCE SHE WAS ABOUT 17... A FEW YEARS BEFORE THIS... OUR BANDS SHARED THE SAME REHEARSAL STUDIOS... SHE WAS PRETTY, BUT i WAS ABOUT 28, 29, SO SHE WAS TOO YOUNG FOR ME... REGRET THAT TO THIS DAY...
@@robertcraane7910 what was your band.She just got more beautiful right?
@@christinaalgate4899 th-cam.com/video/LjP3rYxVKZU/w-d-xo.html.. 35 years ago... I got old... singer is Jeffrey he died inb 1996 I was on the guitar
I never get tired of mentioning she's wearing the same bracelets as in the Wacken concert and as in every other concert lol, they're from her mom and grandmom🥺💖
It's kind of crazy how many are discovering her now when she has been a gifted singer for 20 years. Thanks to Nightwish, Best of Zangers Tv show and pandemic forcing more reactions she is more famous and popular than ever. She is probably the most versatile singer in the world. She can sing any genre and kill it. It's just so great we have her in our lives to enjoy. Big fan.
Yes, she was and is an exceptionally giften singer, maybe the best in the world. But really, if you look at this and then think of the average CD (back then) buyer in the Netherlands. No, that did not match and it still would not match. I am happy that she now seems to have a quieter set list when whe sings in the Netherlands, and now, Joe Average appreciates her more.
Remember that Floor starting singing professionally in metal bands at age 16, so she was getting pretty good at it by this point...
Clearly! Dang
A nice detail is that Floor actually started out as background singer for this band. The guys soon figured out that she way to good for that and they started shifting their attention to her as the lead vocalist. 😁
She had such stage presence even at this age ...and my God those eyes. Those beautiful eyes and a smile for days. She is a Goddess on Earth, truly. Great job and props for going old school After Forever. Scary thing is her voice has just gotten better and more polished since then. 🤘
You have to lkove, how happy Floor is, on stage. She is the born performer.
She is a joy to watch, the voice is just the cherry on top!
If anyone was born for it, it's her.. and a small handful of others (to this degree anyways.)
Floor is only 21 years old on this video. As we can all see she had a natural talent that only required some hard work to fully develop her rare vocal ability. I think that was an A5? Loved it as usual my friend.
You nailed it, Thorgrim, as always.
Floor, a true talent...
21y old, and FLOOR is the QUEEN..🤗❤🥰
She's gorgeous 😍
If goddesses are real, this is one.
Another great one will be "DREAMFLIGHT" from After Forever. This will blow your mind.
As someone else has suggested, you should watch early Floor duet with her sister Irene on "Who I Am".
We've watched it on Twitch! It's awesome. They sound amazing together. Two anatomically meshed voices 😌
Nightwish and particular Tuomas knew Floor Jansen’s capabilities from her period in After Forever and ReVamp, they shared the same record label and have been at the same festivals several times
Knowing this, it's clear why Tuomas suggested asking Floor when the dilemma arose as to who could stand in for Anette when she couldn't act for health reasons.
He had actually wanted her to take over for Tarja, but she was busy with her own band (I forget which one, at that time). So... Anette.
@@danwhitehousepc I think it was reVamp
No, it was After Forever.
They actually toured together. My buddy was in AF, he had some stories to share.
This is one of my favorite. Usely listen to it 3 or 4 times a week, just love her spirit and energy in this song. Like the up close photo of her performance. THE ONE AND ONLY FLOOR JANSEN
The fading out of that note combined with the dramatic backdrop works so well...really getting into this kind of style. Wanted to do only a couple Floor ones each time I binge a string of videos on this channel, but...now it's all been Floor.
I've seen her live at a Liberation Festival when she was still in After Forever. I remember being so impressed with her back then (not only with her voice but stage-presence), setting the bar pretty high for future bands I visited on concerts. Kopspijkers was a great tv show too!
For me the Festival was Pinkpop, but I was equally impressed.
I first saw her when AF opened for Nightwish in 2004 and frankly Tarja had a lot to prove to me after that. My jaw must have hung open when she hit that A5.
Same here I saw her at Pinkpop in the early 2000s. I still remember parts of that performance, can't remember what I ate for dinner yesterday 😅
Thanks for rewinding to hear that note again. TH-cam put an ad right in the middle of it. Grrrrrrrrrrr
Hahaha thanks for watching the ad
Floor doing growls and some operatic parts.
Revamp- Disdain ( live at Grasspop 2010).
Yes a great song.
OR
Revamp-wildcard
Yesss!!
Nice reaction, appreciate that you are also checking out other works from Floor, Marko, etc. The work she did with After Forever and Revamp is excellent to keep delving into. Toumas and Troy along with Toumas's wife have the Auri work also, great music.
Her eyes, they project such emotion.
Seeing this on TV felt like such a big deal. This was on Kopspijkers, which at that time was THE show that everyone watched on Saturday night.
Thank you for reacting to this! For the moment I run Floor's Best-of playlist on spotify all day long in the car and there I am treated to pure joy from a mix of today's songs as well as from After Forever and Revamp. This woman were and isfantastic!
She is very Beautiful and amazing singer... And very tall
La sonrisa de Floor Jansen puede iluminar hasta el lado oscuro de la luna; "carisma 100%"
Aparte mientras otros cantan con cara de no puedo mas... ella siempre con una sonrisa! es una Diosa!
18 years ago. Still 'green' at that time, and then giving Such a stunning performance. Her voice grew a lot stronger and refined over time. And my god how sexy she is there, what a body. And now, today, she is a mother, and still is looking sexy as hell. She does a lot of working out to keep her power and stamina to the max. Today she has much bigger and stronger arms. This woman is a beast, and off stage a lovely, intelligent, wise and humble woman at the same time. And have you seen those huge big demanding eyes? She is not from this world, she definitely comes from another universe. The universe of the gods...
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Well said, my friend. You must have fallen in love with Floor.... as much as I did. )))
She was sixteen when she joined After forever, so she had been performing for five years already. But still stunning.
I was just thinking about After Forever this morning. You should do some Epica, that's the band that Mark Jansen formed after this one. And Simone Simons is incredible.
Loved her when she was just starting with After Forever. She was already sooo good then. But the way she has developed is stunning. I am happy that she finally gets the appreciation and recognition she deserved for years!
Floor is such a babe.
I love her voice, it’s beautiful!
Love the theatrics as well! There is something extremely powerful when operatic elements are combine with rock music. Rock operas ftw!
You should watch her third TH-cam Masterclass......interesting
By the way....Floor is the most versatile vocalist of our times...
She can do all what she wants
In any genre
The GODDESS 😆😉
Great reaction! Good to see you happy again. Great technical insights. I see your dog was still virtual back then :D :D
LOL! And a few weeks ago the dog just materialized in his lap!
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she was so unique in After Forever. Dont know why she does not sing this way in Nightwish
Well.. it's not the same types of compositions in NW now.. but she was really amazing back then..
The NW music is written for her. It's all Tuomas's vision. She lacks the freedom she had as a soloist, but she understands the value of hooking up with the biggest band.
@@milton1448 She has plenty of freedom within Nightwish. Tuomas isn't a tyrant. He is more collaborative than people think.
I wish NW would compose for her voice like that. It's a shame such great potential could be making heavenly music- they're taking more folk influences now, though, and sounding more popish. I don't enjoy them as much as I do Epica and After Forever.
@@ChrisPage68 I think you missed my point. You can clearly see the love and chemistry she has with NW and the other band members.
The godess in early days
This was better than the album version!
Imagine sitting in that front row.
So cool this was on Kopspijkers!
I wouldn't doubt it if I was told she came out of her mother's womb with such a beautiful sounding voice. Her screams and cries were just awesome sounding vibrato!
I've also heard people complain about the moving of the jaw and never understood. If it doesn't hurt her voice or jaw in any way, then let her be, she's obviously doing something right and she's been in the business for many years and as far as I know hasn't had any voice problems.
thats right!!
She's doing vocal lessons, too. Recently, she started an online lesson series, called "Floor Jansen Vocal Masterclass" via her TH-cam channel.
Right! I've watched them all. They're not so much lessons as much as they are small windows into her own technique. A wealth of knowledge for someone who knows how to use the voice. I believe everyone needs a private teacher, at the very least when starting out. I would pay a LOT of money to get private voice lessons from Floor.
Love this song, played it so much back then. :)
She's an amazing singer.
You should also check out Warrel Dane from Sanctuary (EG - "Sanctuary" off "Refuge Denied") & Midnight from Crimson Glory (EG - "Mayday" off their self-titled).
You should watch Floor jansen & RLSQ - Energize me. She sings without a mic in a church full power.
Finally someone reacting to this video!!
Omg she was so young! Why did I never see this performance before? Tnx for reacting to this one.
No prob, Eve!
FLOOOOOR❤❤❤❤
monolith of doubt my introduction to metal when they played it at new year eve on tv
After Forever - Sins of idealism live pls=)))
In the studio version that note is at least twice as long. Not sure if she hit it but sounds amazing!
You should watch floor do ....o'babino caro.....
Yes Floors Jaw just likes to party hard😜😍😁 Wait until Oh Mio and I will share what some vocal coaches/ voice teachers/opera singers say about that 😎
At this point, i think, it is Only Natural that Nighwish & M'sell Floors path will cross someday ✨❤️🤘🇫🇮🥰 Theirs road is written on a stars..... loooooog timeago ❤️✨🤘🇫🇮🎄
I had the chance to see her live on this tour 🙏
OMG! Just found you thru After Forever algorithm. FOLLOWING! Not a lot of folks do AF unfortunately :( hope you check out more of their songs with Floor. I recommend Dreamflight, Energize Me, Pledge of Allegiance PT 1, Sins of Idealism!
Would love to hear these! We're taking suggestions through the discord server, just type "!suggest" then the URL in any chat channel!
Let them rag on the little jaw wiggle all they want. If Floor was one their pop divas they wouldn't say a thing, but since she is a metal goddess that can out sing 99.9% of those divas and so call vocal coaches..they have to find something to make themselves feel better about their life choices 🤣
Thank you for bringing the jaw wiggle subject. The thing that so called vocal coaches miss is that Floor can wiggle or not wiggle her jaw when singing. And as long as it doesn’t harm the performer it doesn’t really matter. Just look at Gary Valenciano, that’s his style and he still going strong at 50 plus years.
Y'know, if she were singing at the Metropolitan opera with no microphone, the jaw wiggle would be a problem... otherwise... who gives a sh*t?!?!?!?!
@@BigBrainSinger that’s my point. She is not doing a Broadway musical or an opera, people just need to get over themselves and appreciate a beautiful voice. So again, thank you and Merry Christmas.
Next up: Ayreon - The Eye of Ra with sister Irene (a sh*tload of other great singers and even Arjen himself) 😜
It is wonderful to see how Floor has become the 'discovery' of the past decade. Some of us have been fans long before Beste Zangers and Nightwish and have known her from this era, her After Forever years. Frankly, I really miss her AF singing... REVAMP too... Her sister can carry a tune as well... She is why I became a Nightwish fan (yeah, I knew of them before, but Floor is why I listen today) and researched the rest of the band. Talk about an impressive ensemble... They work well together. I do, however, miss *this*.
On the album version she holds that last note a lot longer.
The looks of a beautiful young feminine hippie from the 60s. Only the hair band is missing.
I love all of your videos obout Floor.
For me she is by far the best singer on this planet! It is a shame that Chester Bennington (Rip) is not longer whit us. I really would love to hear Floor and Chester belting together. Please take a look at Floor on the beste sangers 2019. She can do absolutely everything whit her voice.
Greats from Holland 🇳🇱
So Floor is amazing as always but I feel the need to throw a little love to the other members of After Forever as well. Mark Jansen (rhythm) guitarist left After Forever about this time To Found Epica & later MaYaN. Also Sir Joost on keys is the main composer of a lot of Arjen Lucassen's Ayreon project.
Has she even aged in 20 years? o_o
As far as I can work out, she has added a good bit of muscle and a lot of tattoos, but age... nope.
Baby Floor awesome .Soooo love Floor
About the jaw,who is daring to talk about her technique..
With my eyes shut I can only conclude that Floor is doing it right and the rest are doing it wrong!
Tarjaholics.
Even some vocal coaches are Tarjaholics, and a couple actually have the balls to crap on Floor to just kick shit up.
Hey, all im saying is that if it works, it works 🤷♂️ I like Tarja's singing, I really like Floor's singing. They're both great. I just like talking about the mechanics of it all
@@BigBrainSinger I would say the ultimate defeating argument against jaw wiggle fanatics is ‘check the score’. Your ears. Believe them. I don’t think she’s having any problem whatsoever making herself heard. None. At all.
Is more an optical effect ,she is not doing the vibrato with her jaw.you can see it clear at phantom of the opera with poort
If you haven't yet, you have to listen to Floor singing with her sister. Amazing
The one thing that frustrates me about this song is that the strings are playing at a slower tempo _constantly._ You can almost feel the drummer's irritation.
I was going to point that out too. Classically trained string players can't groove. They follow the written time signature regardless of the actual rhythm.
Funny, I noticed this right before reading your comment. It really takes an otherwise great performance and makes it frustrating.
@@MorbidGuardian If I'm not mistaken, this problem exists even on other recordings of the song. Very, very frustrating (and I hope I'm wrong).
Dragging tempi is such a bummer when performing 😪
Guys, have you thought that this is done deliberately?
i haven't heard any singer or vocal coach moan about her jaw , only that it was nice how relaxed it was.
I have heard some mention it, it was more about how shaking the jaw loses points in the eyes of the singing gods when performing vibrato.
It's like, yeah, you can sing great vibrato, but only the true greats can do it without jaw shake. Basically - elitism.
It was never about the dangers of hurting her voice or anything like it.
Can compare it to a great Olympic diver, many can dive beautifully, but can you dive beautifully with no splash?
For me personally, I like seeing her jaw shake, it adds to the performance in my eyes, looks and feels more dramatic.
5:35 The original Floorgasm
Have a look at Northward, While love died for Floor rocking out!
Studio version is even better
And to think she was just 2 years into her 7 years of Music Conservatory
Bloody hell. Annnd there's another instance for me of Floor just taking EVERYTHING up a notch.
She's amazing. Ok, now let's see her still being amazing while ill. Maintains the high standard.
She's amazing. Oh look, she's equally amazing, while five or six months pregnant. And she's singing a piece that isn't exactly easy.
She's amazing? She was 21. Oh, and she'd only had two years of conservatory. And she's singing better than singers years older, who are just as dedicated and have had far more formal studying.
This album is perfect in ever way. It's what taught me that growly vocals are okay.
Hey, you should definitely check Floor Jansen in Revamp her previous band before nightwish, songs disdain and wildcard, awesome 😎
I want to hear the After Forever open for Nightwish from 2004, that would be great.
When people complain about Floor's moving jaw, they are applying principles they have learned without understanding the reason for those principles. I always think talent in anything whether it be music, sports, etc. should always try to understand the reasoning behind the principles.
The REAL Floor Jansen!!!
What do you mean. Even Luciano fricking Pavarotti wiggled his jaw. It was just harder to see under all that beard.
Haha, I get what you're saying. But even Pavarotti wasn't 100% perfect all the time.
she has been a talented singer for quite awhile now
What a Goddess of a woman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rather surprised you keep commenting on her age. She was 16 when she joined what became After Forever in 1997.
Which is impressive. I didn't know that!
♥️
Just some useless info, I was figuring out age's of people & realised that in 2002 when Floor was performing this song her future husband was only 12 years old @ the time, wow crazy!
Anyways, I'd love to recommend checking out Floor & her sister Irene singing, the song is called "Who I Am" : th-cam.com/video/Nvz1QfVYhGM/w-d-xo.html
TY for your analysis/reaction, all the best from New Zealand....
I don't think her jaw always moves during vibrato. I could be wrong, but I will have to go back to O Mio Babbino to find out.
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Charlie - I have only heard one vocal coach on TH-cam presume that she could teach Floor how to sing better. The performance was Ghost Love Score from Wacken 2013 - the legendary performance. It was quite comical, because she obviously had no idea who Floor is, how highly regarded she is in the Metal fraternity, and how many years she's been honing her craft. I felt embarrassed for the poor woman. Floor's the one who would be doing the coaching. 🤦
@@ChrisPage68 I consider myself quite the accomplished singer for my age, and I would do some TERRIBLE things to get into the same room as Floor and learn from her. Experience + Talent + Intelligence. She's got it all.
@@BigBrainSinger I hope you get the opportunity some day WITHOUT having to resort to the terrible things. 😉
Floor and Irene Janssen...🇸🇪
Floor Jansen daughter of Odin 🤘🏽
Floor Jansen one of the best singers in the world today. Maybe ever !!!!! "Voice teachers" Her jaw wiggles. lol shut up!!! don't get jealous !!!!!
Sheehs, I'm bloody old. Mark was still in AF back here. Oh man.
Have you discovered sister Irene yet ?
Currently Floor Jansen for me is the best singer of her musical genre, followed by Sharon den Adel from Within Temptation ❤
They have more beautiful songs ,My pledge of allegiance,Leaden legacy,Sins of Idealisme etc
And Follow in the cry
Can anyone help me be certain: Isn't that the original Bass player from Nightwish, pre-Marco? Isn't his name Sammy or something?
No.There is Luuk van Gerven
@@feliciabotnaru8031 Thanks. He just reminded me of their bass player in the Nightwish "Wanderlust" live video.
is it just me but can you hear Floor singing "Ecstasy of Gold" by Ennio Morricone. wouldn't that be great?
Yes it would be
Sadly you are ion Twitch in the middle off the night for us in europe so hard to be a part off the thing you do
I'll be doing earlier streams starting soon so I can meet all of the wonderful new community members!
Has anyone recommended you check Diana Ankoudinova?
5:32 reminds of Kate Bush
This was the first video I saw from AF when I was just a kid and loved it (except the off tempo strings), just amazing ♡
Btw, if you want to give a chance to a... let's say weird singing, you could try Chenille th-cam.com/video/I9uuFOHg4Qs/w-d-xo.html
Nice abs floor lol