Might be a while before she's back to operation, but in the mean time, the NCRY has yet to get their end of the deal, which is an overhauled boiler for Sierra Railroad 30.
85 tons and number 1? This is the very loco I played on as a kid while it sat on cannery row, Monterey, Ca. We used to climb all over that thing, study every part and imagine what it was like when it was still operating. I have a picture somewhere I need to dig out. It was a kind of local landmark and one day,...it was gone. Sad to see it sit there all those years rusting away - used as a garbage dump, graffiti surface and worst of all, a toilet,... as there were bars all around it. There was no way Monterey would ever have allowed such a thing along the waterfront. It'll have a much better home where it's at, (along a waterfront),. Such a beautiful setting there. Though I'll still always wonder, "what-if",. I'm glad these folks have it and instead of dying a slow death, it'll get another chance to live. I sure hope I get to ride behind the locomotive I played on as a kid and dreamed was under steam - half a century ago. Time flies. I hope they're able to do it sooner, rather than later. Cheers.
About the only thing better than big, mainline freight steam is the tiny logging engines. If I can't get my HO scale Climax repaired, am going after a Heisler. Very nice video. Would love to see an update sometime
nothing_cool the magical cat I too have a climax that needs repair. Made by Spectrum But have been told their are no spare parts available. May have to re motor it Or find somewhere else to get it fixed
@@towcat Yeah, no more delicate steamer parts. You can modernize just like a real railroad would. estore.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=66_68_196
@@michaelnaisbitt1639 - Does any Chinese machinery have replacement parts available? One little piece breaks and if you can't adapt or substitute a part from something else you toss it in the scrap and buy another one for $15. A Japanese or USA made machine like the Chinese one is $300 instead of the $15 for the Chinese one.
My great grandpa was the the last person to operate that locomotive he was pulling it out of Pickering’s yard when the drive shaft to the tender broke and the tender fell on it’s side
I thought they should have chained the shaft up also, but it appears that the shaft was frozen in a down position resting on the axle so a chain would only have worked if they had freed the driveshaft up.
So, what ya gotta do is get this loco, some logging flat cars, and some guys with steam-powered saws to head up into the hills above town, and start a “craft timber operation” “Wild-caught, hand selected, etc.”! Really appeal to the man-bun wearing home builder!
The Flopping drive shaft sound is just so very sad..... Troy says that y'all should've taken it off, could've, but didn't... I say it'll just make the "after" video So much better!!! 🌞🚂🌈
Yea, especially the fact that that engine is a 3 truck that as you can see a flopping thing at the back, and we dont know what happened to the back part.
Personally I would have notched out the BOTTOM of those "Custom Fishplates" and lined up the top of the rails instead of the bottom so the wheels didn't have to bounce over that huge Step, but that's just the Retired Mechanic/Machinist & Part-time Sawyer/Engineer in me saying that. . . . That, And Cradle The End of the front driveshaft with a chain strung across between the frame rails. . . . Otherwise, Good Job on it. . . Good to see another 3-Truck Heisler getting fixed up.
Uneven and Wavy, YES, as it wandered through the timber following the lay-of-the-land, but they still made sure the joints were even to avoid derailing. . . Our Club has a Two-Truck Heisler which I have run many times and ridden on hundreds more times rocking around as it goes, but trust me, even a 1/4 inch or smaller step in the joints causes problems. Gaps in the joints give it that nice "Clickity-Clack" sound going down the track, but sudden steps up or down (much smaller than that one) send a jolt through the entire train.
You forgot to add subtitles at the end where they were picking up the wooden blocks and moving the rails with a forklift... I was completely lost at that point.
+smokayman Hi, I'm sorry, I thought it was pretty clear that after they unloaded the locomotive, they disassembled the temporary unloading rails and such. Next time I'll be more diligent.
Why didn't you guys finish taking the drive line off while dragging it? Now part of that drive line is ruined from being banged around & u joints bent up etc should of tooken that other half of that drive line off or some how have a zip tied loop under drive line so it would of not banged around like that etc & then some
Hi, yes, this locomotive is scheduled for a complete restoration. But I'm just the guy who caught some video during the unloading, you can contact the railroad directly for more specific updated information about it.
Hi, I don't mean to sound waggish, but please check the title of the video, where it says " ... Heisler delivery." That would suggest it's a Heisler, not a Shay, being delivered. If you google Shay and Heisler you can learn the difference between the two.
Yes, Heisler was one of several significant geared locomotives. Shay, Heisler, Climax, Willamette and a few other one-offs are out there. Google is your friend!
+Armagon Armagon Undoubtedly going to be restored as Sunset Timber Co. #1, since that company is local to the state of Oregon and I'm sure they are going for representing the railroads of their state, with the exception of McCloud #25 and Deep River Logging Co. #7.
What is the condition of the Sunset Timber No. 1's boiler? As far as I know, it has not operated since it's days as Pickering No. 1, which is at least a good 50 years.
I cringe every time I see people moving a load that size with grade 70 chains and anemic undersized cable with eyes formed by u-bolt clamps. Cable should always have eyes made by backbraiding with a compression collar, and grade 80 chain minimum. Other than that great job and I'm glad no one got hurt.
Any progress yet? Also, I noticed that it was originally all wheel drive. I also noticed that there was a shaft connection point even under the rear bumper. What was that for?
This is the 2nd rarest type of geared engine, climaxes* are the rarest to see operational, and shays, may be the oldest desgine but are most commenly seen between the 3 types.
@@bluefoxy6478 , just for those who are interested, there is a climax built for 2'6" gauge at the puffing billy railway in melbourne australia. they get it out every so often and clear out the cobwebs at 9mph.
Hurra, besser kann man eine Dampflok nicht auf Dauer dauerhaft beschädigen!!! Die Antriebswelle hat bei jeder Umdrehung auf die Achswelle geschlagen, das gibt jedesmal eine Beschädigung der Achswelle und eine potentielle Bruchstelle. Hätte man die Antiebswelle nicht hoch binden oder demontieren können? Auch wenn man die Lok nicht mehr restaurien möchte, kann man das für die Zukunft wirklich ausschließen? Auch bei einem anderen Besitzer... So was zu sehen tut echt weh!!!
i find it funny how they get this engine but yet THERE IS AN ENGINE WITH A LOT OF POTENTIAL (Rayonier 90) SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR MAIN SHED and they are just like NOPE lets get another rust bucket instead and spend a ton of money transporting it
+ColumbiaAndHoodRiver This is the type of question best addressed directly to the railroad. Unless you are experienced with such railroad restoration efforts and you know the inner workings of the OCSR, you may not be aware of all the ins and outs of such matters. For example, the Rayonier #90 may well not be available to them, there may be a mechanical reason why the #90 is not practical or possible to restore, or they're simply more interested in the Heisler. Contact the railroad directly and you can learn more about what they're doing.
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Looking forward to seeing her restored and operating again!
Might be a while before she's back to operation, but in the mean time, the NCRY has yet to get their end of the deal, which is an overhauled boiler for Sierra Railroad 30.
Back to the oldies, I wish it will come back to life soon. Beautiful vdo.
85 tons and number 1? This is the very loco I played on as a kid while it sat on cannery row, Monterey, Ca. We used to climb all over that thing, study every part and imagine what it was like when it was still operating. I have a picture somewhere I need to dig out. It was a kind of local landmark and one day,...it was gone. Sad to see it sit there all those years rusting away - used as a garbage dump, graffiti surface and worst of all, a toilet,... as there were bars all around it. There was no way Monterey would ever have allowed such a thing along the waterfront. It'll have a much better home where it's at, (along a waterfront),. Such a beautiful setting there. Though I'll still always wonder, "what-if",. I'm glad these folks have it and instead of dying a slow death, it'll get another chance to live. I sure hope I get to ride behind the locomotive I played on as a kid and dreamed was under steam - half a century ago. Time flies. I hope they're able to do it sooner, rather than later. Cheers.
All it needed was a new U-joint and you could have drove it off! Smile! Will be cool to see this restored! Love 4Truth!
Hope to see that restored and running again. Hope there's more video coming.
It's very sad to look in this condition, this is a great steam engine of a past days the one who worked in this section they really enjoyed,
This engine will be awesome once they get it restored and up and running.
Can we just take a moment to think about how actually huge even the small-looking locomotives are?
Restoration begin on Number 85
As long as it stays away from the cutting torch it’s a good day :o) - I hope you can get it going.
Poor thing. . . I'm glad you guys are going to fix it.
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Glad the driving rod didn't damage the 2nd axel on the first truck
I think gentle beating is good to relief internal stresses in cast materials? Let me quickly check in that material sciences book...
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It’s bad innit huh?
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Every thing would have STOPPED the second I seen that shaft flopping had I been in charge.
Should have put a strap across and let it spin nicely
Just don’t put your fingers in there and everything is fine. What’s the problem?
About the only thing better than big, mainline freight steam is the tiny logging engines.
If I can't get my HO scale Climax repaired, am going after a Heisler.
Very nice video. Would love to see an update sometime
nothing_cool the magical cat I too have a climax that needs repair. Made by Spectrum But have been told their are no spare parts available. May have to re motor it Or find somewhere else to get it fixed
@@michaelnaisbitt1639 Get a GE critter.
@@MilwaukeeF40C GE Gritter?
@@towcat Yeah, no more delicate steamer parts. You can modernize just like a real railroad would.
estore.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=66_68_196
@@michaelnaisbitt1639 - Does any Chinese machinery have replacement parts available? One little piece breaks and if you can't adapt or substitute a part from something else you toss it in the scrap and buy another one for $15. A Japanese or USA made machine like the Chinese one is $300 instead of the $15 for the Chinese one.
Excellent video👍 Great relic
I'm shocked that you didn't build a simple drive shaft loop to centralize the drive shaft so it didn't slam around on the axle and frame.
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She's so beautiful!
My great grandpa was the the last person to operate that locomotive he was pulling it out of Pickering’s yard when the drive shaft to the tender broke and the tender fell on it’s side
I thought they should have chained the shaft up also, but it appears that the shaft was frozen in a down position resting on the axle so a chain would only have worked if they had freed the driveshaft up.
It's a beutiful locomotive.
That man pushing it is really strong
So, what ya gotta do is get this loco, some logging flat cars, and some guys with steam-powered saws to head up into the hills above town, and start a “craft timber operation” “Wild-caught, hand selected, etc.”! Really appeal to the man-bun wearing home builder!
Guys are well trained. Cheers!
Крутой паровоз. С карданом и раздаткой. Таких я еще не видел.
Eres toda una hermosura .linda.maravillosa ..única .sí .toda .una .machinne .and..
Love ..saludos . .
А где видео, когда его восстановили!?
The Flopping drive shaft sound is just so very sad..... Troy says that y'all should've taken it off, could've, but didn't... I say it'll just make the "after" video So much better!!! 🌞🚂🌈
+Mer James Even if not removed, restrained so that it was not flopping on the axle.
yeah...just a piece of wire or something....so the old gal can be unloaded with some respect and dignity.
"Gotta respect the classics, maaan..."
Yea, especially the fact that that engine is a 3 truck that as you can see a flopping thing at the back, and we dont know what happened to the back part.
Personally I would have notched out the BOTTOM of those "Custom Fishplates" and lined up the top of the rails instead of the bottom so the wheels didn't have to bounce over that huge Step, but that's just the Retired Mechanic/Machinist & Part-time Sawyer/Engineer in me saying that. . . . That, And Cradle The End of the front driveshaft with a chain strung across between the frame rails. . . . Otherwise, Good Job on it. . . Good to see another 3-Truck Heisler getting fixed up.
old, Logging locomotives ran on track all day every day far worse than a little bump.
Uneven and Wavy, YES, as it wandered through the timber following the lay-of-the-land, but they still made sure the joints were even to avoid derailing. . . Our Club has a Two-Truck Heisler which I have run many times and ridden on hundreds more times rocking around as it goes, but trust me, even a 1/4 inch or smaller step in the joints causes problems. Gaps in the joints give it that nice "Clickity-Clack" sound going down the track, but sudden steps up or down (much smaller than that one) send a jolt through the entire train.
Very god beautiful...so um trato e o dono tem uma reliquia muito linda...BRASIL.
Beautiful train but so many parts are missing.
You forgot to add subtitles at the end where they were picking up the wooden blocks and moving the rails with a forklift... I was completely lost at that point.
+smokayman Hi, I'm sorry, I thought it was pretty clear that after they unloaded the locomotive, they disassembled the temporary unloading rails and such. Next time I'll be more diligent.
I would of riged the driv shaft up cradel it with strap or somthing y just let it beat its self up
or a heavy bit of wire. borrow some off the nearest fence. or use some of the chains holding it on to the float. they are already at hand.
Wow nice !
What a terrible job with that drive shaft hitting the axle. Did cost too much to attach a chain to stabilize the shaft?
That Dodge Ram in the background at 1:11 is just sitting there thinking 'I could do that'
Yea I can agree, also its a older model, its hard to find older models on the roads they'd days
@@hotdogstockimage Gotta love the 2nd gen. Their injector pumps are worth their weight in gold.
Yea, also sorry for bad grammar.
Since I am using a phone, its kinda hard to type. Anyway I hope one day I can by a model like that but older.
@@hotdogstockimage they've become collectors items now cause they're so durable. The prices are becoming like classic cars.
Muito linda essas locomotivas antigas, tem o vídeo dela depois da restauração? .👏👏👏👍👍👍
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Why didn't you guys finish taking the drive line off while dragging it? Now part of that drive line is ruined from being banged around & u joints bent up etc should of tooken that other half of that drive line off or some how have a zip tied loop under drive line so it would of not banged around like that etc & then some
Are you restoring that train?. Comment please cause idk
Hi, yes, this locomotive is scheduled for a complete restoration. But I'm just the guy who caught some video during the unloading, you can contact the railroad directly for more specific updated information about it.
JeffJohnston. ok thank you.
There's at least 10 people there rigging this thing to move and no one had the common sense to address the drive shaft??
Waste of effort. It didn't hurt the shaft or the axle.
Looks like it is a shay. Are they planning to fix her up and let her breath once again?
Read the damn title it says HEISLER have you even seen. A Shay before?
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Is that a Shay?
Hi, I don't mean to sound waggish, but please check the title of the video, where it says " ... Heisler delivery." That would suggest it's a Heisler, not a Shay, being delivered. If you google Shay and Heisler you can learn the difference between the two.
JeffJohnston Oh! I didn’t know that Heisler was the type I though it was just a name.
Yes, Heisler was one of several significant geared locomotives. Shay, Heisler, Climax, Willamette and a few other one-offs are out there. Google is your friend!
When it gets restored to operation, what will it be lettered as? It could be either Sunset Timber or Pickering Lumber Corp. #1, as far as what I know.
+Armagon Armagon Undoubtedly going to be restored as Sunset Timber Co. #1, since that company is local to the state of Oregon and I'm sure they are going for representing the railroads of their state, with the exception of McCloud #25 and Deep River Logging Co. #7.
What is the condition of the Sunset Timber No. 1's boiler? As far as I know, it has not operated since it's days as Pickering No. 1, which is at least a good 50 years.
McCloud 25 is not from Oregon its from Northern California
I cringe every time I see people moving a load that size with grade 70 chains and anemic undersized cable with eyes formed by u-bolt clamps. Cable should always have eyes made by backbraiding with a compression collar, and grade 80 chain minimum. Other than that great job and I'm glad no one got hurt.
Heisler loks wurden in europa scheinbar nie gebaut und verwendet? Was war der vortei der heislertechnik? Lg.ff.
That drive shaft was probably gonna need to be replaced anyway.
Vidas passadas ,mais pesado o trabalho, Mais era mais gostoso de viver
Any progress yet?
Also, I noticed that it was originally all wheel drive. I also noticed that there was a shaft connection point even under the rear bumper. What was that for?
Smartarse, Some Heislers, Climaxes and Shays had tenders on a third driven four wheeled truck.
Why are you using car terms for a locomotive smartassX1?
Hold on while I whip this out lol
That is a 3 truck Heisler..
How do you classify this engine? The wheels are both the trucks and drive wheels.
A two-truck Heisler (or Shay or Climax) is a 4-4, and a three truck would be a 4-4-4. I'm guessing that's what you mean by "classify?"
@@JeffJohnston yes, thank you.
Is she a Old wood burner. Like to see the Old Steam Engines fixed up and Running Again.
Mike..., a Heisler is a logging locomotive. There's no coal in the forest. No bunker oil either.
@@algrayson8965 I Figured so she's a Wood Burner. And Narrow Gauge?
Scabs 72 no it's standard gauge dummy there are standard gauge logging engines to also it's a oil burner
Is it to be restored or is it a parts engine for another project. There can't be many of this type left
This is the 2nd rarest type of geared engine, climaxes* are the rarest to see operational, and shays, may be the oldest desgine but are most commenly seen between the 3 types.
@@bluefoxy6478 , just for those who are interested, there is a climax built for 2'6" gauge at the puffing billy railway in melbourne australia. they get it out every so often and clear out the cobwebs at 9mph.
@@vsvnrg3263 I know about that locomotive.
I have 2 guesses repair or scrap
Esta Locomotiva merece ser restaurada com bastante capricho, ela é super interessante. Abraço! Rio de Janeiro Brazil
what was the weight of this machine?
Hi, I just shot the video and don't have the specs on that locomotive. You could contact the OCSR crew for that information.
the MONSTER.... 😎😎😎
Hurra, besser kann man eine Dampflok nicht auf Dauer dauerhaft beschädigen!!! Die Antriebswelle hat bei jeder Umdrehung auf die Achswelle geschlagen, das gibt jedesmal eine Beschädigung der Achswelle und eine potentielle Bruchstelle. Hätte man die Antiebswelle nicht hoch binden oder demontieren können? Auch wenn man die Lok nicht mehr restaurien möchte, kann man das für die Zukunft wirklich ausschließen? Auch bei einem anderen Besitzer...
So was zu sehen tut echt weh!!!
Даа. Кардан могли бы подвязать. без затяжки, в свободном вращении
Супер
Anybody knows the year of this locomotive?
1913. Here's more info; oregoncoastscenic.org/pickering-lumber-heisler-1/
C’est pas tout jeune ça....elle est très belle..😉
Вот были ИНЖЕНЕРЫ !!!!!!!!??И наверно без сопромата ?????
what a stupid way not to truss up that driveshaft which is about to damage the axle. It hurts to watch that.
Как-то это сделано без уважения к старой технике.
oh yes Al Morrison... rightyou are. it was raining, they were made from suger! Hahaha
That train is corroded
i find it funny how they get this engine but yet THERE IS AN ENGINE WITH A LOT OF POTENTIAL (Rayonier 90) SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR MAIN SHED and they are just like NOPE lets get another rust bucket instead and spend a ton of money transporting it
+ColumbiaAndHoodRiver This is the type of question best addressed directly to the railroad. Unless you are experienced with such railroad restoration efforts and you know the inner workings of the OCSR, you may not be aware of all the ins and outs of such matters. For example, the Rayonier #90 may well not be available to them, there may be a mechanical reason why the #90 is not practical or possible to restore, or they're simply more interested in the Heisler. Contact the railroad directly and you can learn more about what they're doing.
JeffJohnston actually rayonier 90 is being restored now
that loco is in bad shape.............when can we watch the restoration video?
dilletantisch gearbeitet.
klaus michaelis da hätte eine Kette gelangt um die Welle zu sichern.
I hope that wasn,'t graffiti on the rear of the coalbunker
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What class of loco is that?
Heisler logging locomotive
@@trainfan-ks5hk thank you.
Train, 0-4-4-0 articulated. Since it has a shaft sticking out the back, a 3 truck Heisler, 0-4-4-4-0
its herritage of railwais. javed from india
Objets inanimés avez vous donc une âme qui s'attache a la force d'aimer ( Victor Hugo) a ne pas en douter les objets ont une âme
Pourquoi par exemple ( je collectionne les petites voiture 1 /43 e) est ce que je ne séparerait pas du coupe Mercedes 560 de 1991?
Bien plus que du métal,du plastique,de la.peinture en une très belles finitions ce petit véhicules semble me dire " je t'aime "
Celanparait naïf,enfantins ? OBJETS INANIMÉS AVEZ VOUS DONC UNE AME QUI S'ATTACHE À LA FORCE D'AIMER trouve son explication
Здорово кардан долбит,подвязать не судьба!
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It hurts me to watch the new generation.
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I know this is nearly FOUR YEARS past, but NO ONE thought to use rope or chain to secure the drive shaft? LAME...
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It is scrap
Its a shay
Heisler.
Já estamos em 2024 cadê a locomotiva?
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