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Your complaints are the very things a Lincoln is known for. Complaining about the smooth ride? That's a hallmark of Lincoln. Know before you buy. Who could hate the smooth Lincoln ride? Beats me. Best ride on the market.
I like the feel of springs more on the Aviator then the air. Quality can definitely be improved, same with the SYNC3 infotainment. Thanks for your feedback and for watching!
lol the negatives you pointed out are stupid. This is a luxury car dude, it has plenty of power and is supposed to float over bumps. Get a mustang or a corvette.
Hey thanks for your feedback! It's a great car for a specific person - but personally I like tighter suspension and better steering feedback (even in an SUV!). Appreciate you watching :)
I have to say, i test drove the aviator a couple of days ago and i have to disagree about how fast it is. This thing is really fast and it takes off with no lag at all. i owned a range rover sport 2014 v6 which was fast but the aviator was actually faster and had no problems going 0-6 in under 6 seconds. Insane!
It's interesting you find that! I think the throttle / acceleration overall is very laggy. I compare it to other 6 cylinders that have way more pep get up and go (BMW 6 cyl for example in X5, etc). This aviator to me accelerates and feels like a much larger car (and coarse engine noise doesn't do it for me either in here). All in all, it's not 'slow' but you have to be on it quite a bit to make it go. Again this is coming from someone who is used to 'faster' cars / suvs / sport sedans so in the real world I'm sure this might actually be seen as a car with good pickup! Glad you enjoyed the test drive! Are you in the market for one?
@@thedesertroad That's the thing as a previous owner of the rr sport which was fast with 340hp this aviator with 400 and for its size is super fast and i did not notice it being slow at any point of the test drive, i did use EXCITE mode of course but the other modes were also very decent when i stepped on the gas. i think 8 out of 10 people would say it has great power and a more than good acceleration. Great review by the way.
@@noroom4commies086 Correct - even on luxury side still some things left to be desired (loud engine noise, crap build quality, seats that squeal, etc.). Going more sport on my current M50i X5 but ultimately they are all great cars. Thanks for stopping by!
Notice there is no mention in the video about the power plant under the hood. Throttle response in my 2020 is awesome, even in conserve mode. I always run in conserve mode. Mine has a 3L twin-turbo putting out 400hp, 415ftbs torque. Doing 70 one day stuck behind 4 left lane squatters, saw a break on the right and tapped the pedal. Almost instantly, the Avaitor jumped to over 90. The Avaitor flew past the 4 squaters in just a few seconds leaving them in the dust. Engine noise - none, it is very quiet. There is a nice muscle car growl from the exhaust. Soft ride, what did he expect from a luxury car? Lincolns are not exactly sports vehicles. If that's what he wants, should have bought a Camaro, Mustang, Corvette, Porsche, etc. I think then he would have complained about lack of space and luxury.
I had the 3.0, and was underwhelmed with the response. Many complaints online of the coarse engine noise, especially pulling away from a light / stop that was very unpleasant. No easy way to turn that off! Overall, it's a good car for the right customer - but the slew of quality control issues ./ build quality made me get out of her after a 4 month stint. Highly disappointing issues with something made after 2020! I generally like a sportier ride, but that's not what ultimately soured me on this car. Thanks for stopping by our channel today!
Hey there, if your still active on youtube I would like to know how the reliability of this car is as most people online say it is questionable at best.
I'm not gonna give you a hard time, but 400hp 415 tourqe , I mean, it's not a BMW M series's but at sea level 5.8 sec 0-60 MPH is very impressive. I hope you find what your looking for.
sounds like you bought it for the you tube content, not the car it's self. the reason you buy this car is because of the floaty ride. this car is meant to cruise not to speed. the speed is there for when you need it. and of course it will never ride like a euro car. i cant stand the stiff ride of those cars.
I bought it for the 'floaty ride' - but realized shortly that I actually prefer a firmer ride overall. Sometimes you just got to change things up!! I tried to love it I really did but just wasn't the car for me. My current X5 M50i suits me much better! Thanks for stopping by :)
Which BMW are you comparing it to? There are pros and cons to both ... Aviator is a great ride, just not the best one for myself! Thanks for your feedback and for watching !!
Yes, it offers great 'value' for the money - and a lot of features that typically other manufacturers nickel and dime for. If you can get past the cons, and enjoy American automobiles -- this is a worthy contender. Thanks for stopping by!
As someone who has been an avid Lincoln fan for decades and someone who has worked in the Aviation field for quite some time…. You were killing me with the name. At least there was great eye candy tho. I’ve never wanted to be a pair of shorts more in my life. Your wife’s a lucky lady!
For me the feeling was too much disconnected from the road - many other air suspensions strike a better balance. But I get it - it's a Lincoln after all! Thanks for stopping by!
@@thedesertroad Here's an interesting update. I traded my '21 m40i for a '23 CPO Black Label Aviator. My wife has a '20 Explorer ST. About the same vehicle. She has a ton of problems with hers, but I figured since it was the first year of a new model, they'd worked stuff out by now. They did NOT. Screen going black, blue screen of backup death. Clunky transmission. On a CPO with 18k miles! Luckily Lincoln has a killer money back guarantee. The dealer did me a solid. They allowed me to return the car and hop back into my m40i. So, I did. Lincoln is still just a Ford with a loaner program. No better than the Explorer, unfortunately.
@@lockheedload I didn't have any mechanical issues, but had tons of quality control / build quality issues I couldn't look past on such a modern vehicle. The insanely slow / glitchy infotainment was bothering me as well. I got out of her after 4 months and have never though of that car again! Happy you were able to get back into the m40i. I'm in a M50i and the build quality between the Aviator and my BMW is night and day. This was my first / most likely last american vehicle for a while. Good luck in whatever direction you decide to go next!
@@thedesertroadSuper happy that I was fortunate enough to get my car back! I have been eyeing the M50i. I will probably check it out. I'm done with American vehicles, unless they improve dramatically. Take care!
Good review! Just test drove one of these (Black Label version) a few days ago and loved every bit of the drive and experience. I wish it had a 12/12.3 infotainment center though. The reason I'm partial to this Lincoln Aviator and also The 2023 Volvo S90 Ultimate is due to the fact it doesn't appear to be no where as many of these on the roads compared to all the Lexus, BMW, Mercedes, etc. Love the fact of having something a little different from the masses. Best of luck on your new vehicle!
That's exactly why I picked up mine for that reason is that they are nowhere near as common as all the competitors. It's a solid alternative, and a great package -- but keeps me wishing for 'more' on each drive that I take. The black label offers a few more interior goodies, but the ride is identical to mine. Thanks for your feedback and watching !!
@@thedesertroad Understandable! You're welcome! If you're able or have time in the future, would you consider doing a review on the 2023 Volvo S90 Ultimate? If you're able too, it would be appreciated! Thanks again!
Very lazy throttle in here - really gotta work at it to make this car move. It's not designed to be an athlete - but versus other competitors it leaves some to be desired. Thanks for stopping by the channel! :)
What’s the range for a full tank on this car? I saw you had more than 3 quarters of a tank but the indicator showed 178 miles to go, does it even go 200 miles on a full tank???
Great question, never fully sure what I got to the tank. All I know is that MPG wasn't great, doing city driving I was barely able to squeeze out 14mpg in here. A bit weak considering the power in this car wasn't all that great, and I wasn't a speed demon. My m50i X5 with the V8 performed better in the gas department. Thanks for stopping by!
Thank you! The build quality issues hurt the most, especially for a 2023 car. Paint issues, creaking, freezing screens - there were too many to list. Thanks for stopping by!
You’re the only person in about 6 reviews that said the vehicle is not fast enough. But thanks for taking the time to do the review. I’m going to be looking at Lincoln SUV's. Im looking forward to driving the Aviator with that 400hp engine. That air suspension sounds like the Lincolns from the 70's. I don’t think I would like the air suspension either. It sounds like you would be happier in a BMW. Im also looking at the X3 & X5.
To me the car just seemed to have lazy acceleration all around. It was never eager to go. I ended up in a X5 M50i and it addresses a majority of my complaints. What really drove me away from Lincoln is the build quality all around, and that terrible horrible infotainment system. The floatiness and sway over every uneven surface drove me nuts! IMHO the 40i X5 is the way to go overall, but if you must for more power the V8 ones are great. I was not a fan of the X3s. Good Luck and let me know what you think!
Get the reserve package. 22" wheels look really great. With a 400hp/415 ft.lbs of torque 3.0L Twin Turbo, it has more than enough get up and go when you step on the gas. It has some engine growl when you start moving, but it gets very quiet as you drive, and has a very solid ride. Put it in Excite mode, and you hear and feel more of the engine. It not only adjusts the transmission, but the suspension and sound inside the car as well. I've had mine for a little less than a month. Upgraded from a 3.7L 2016 MKX Reserve, and this is a tremendous move up. I am loving it.
I don’t have the air suspension option but it’s still very smooth and soft. It’s a great car and great bang for buck like you said, but the technology very glitchy and I never had problems like that in any bmws I owned. Definitely need a sports car as a 2nd car to make up for the lazy ride.
Agreed on all your points. I prefer the standard suspension to the air 100% on this car. The car feels more solid and more planted on the road. Next time I'd opt it without air. My tech is very glitchy as well, screen takes a while to load and sometimes I have random screen resets. And def +1 on the sports car as second ride. As I currently need to have two cars in one - I'm looking at M50i X7 and SQ7 for my next daily driver. Both of those offer a great ride, tons of power and bit more driver involvement. The X7 leans more luxury then SQ7 - but still adds in some sport over the Aviator which is a nice medium. Thanks for your feedback and watching!
@@thedesertroad I remember when I was choosing between the Aviator and Q7, I sat in the Q7 and it felt smaller... and the trunk seemed smaller to me but maybe its my imagination. X7 is great, I'm considering getting it as well.
@@Stantep You are absolutely right. We just taped an SQ7 as well (th-cam.com/video/Cci3XqDrYXU/w-d-xo.html&t), and although the car is identical in length to the Aviator, it feels and looks smaller inside and out. The SQ7 really wraps around you and rides sporty, where as the Aviator feels full on SUV mode! You are also correct, trunk space IS smaller in the SQ7, although still 'plenty' with the 3rd row down. X7s are nice, but definitely feels a size above the Aviator when it's parked and driving, and definitely a tradeoff as well in that department as many of the parking spaces around Scottsdale here are very small. All great choices, and I'm happy I got to try an American car !
So for under three hundred bucks you could have just put a sprint booster on it and fixed your lazy throttle. I've had one on every Mercedes I've ever owned because they tend to have slow throttles and after that they are as quick if not faster response than most BMWs I've driven.
I thank you for your review of this suv, I think it's like you said you've gotten us to a ruff truck like drive . This suv isn't known for a ruff drive or ride 🤔 people usually want a comfortable,,smooth enjoyable ride from an suv like this . It sounds like you didn't give that much of a priority when you bought this suv. It's all about the luxury, luxurious ride.
Don’t buy a Lincoln if you don’t want everything you complain about. If you bought the pluggable option you would have another 100 hp electric motor helping with not only in your 0-60 speed but a fantastic increase in gas mileage. 500 HP and 600 ft lbs of torque makes a difference. How about over 30 MPG on the highway and 75 MPG in the city as long as you plug it in at night and keep your drive mileage to 20 miles of battery life? My gas bill has dropped $100/month just keeping my car plugged in at night. Since I only pay 10 cents per KWH for electricity, I only pay for the long trips in gas. My electric bill only increased $10/month! I only fill the tank 1x per month and we still take plenty of day trips away from home. The pay off for the pluggable option took only 2 years.
I didn't trust buying the hybrid as the boards are flooded with issues/reliability problems. You are correct some of my cons would of been addressed by that platform, but not all of them. All-in-all it was Lincolns poor build quality, semi-uncomfortable seats, crap infotainment, floaty ride and poor dealer network around where I live that ultimately made me give it up. Hope to see an improvement out of them for the next round of Aviator updates/production. Thanks for stopping by!
We actually reviewed a 2023 prior to this, but that one had a slightly different setup (no air suspension, etc). After owning this one for a bit - it doesn't have enough of an enthusiast core to it to be a long term keeper in the garage! Fantastic car, just not for me! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Correct same engine - not sure how they feel vs. each other as haven't driven an explorer ST yet! Not sure if it's in the tuning or the engine/transmission combo but to me it was a lazy throttle and an engine that never fully wanted to 'go'. The car wasn't slow - but far from an athlete by any standard!! Thanks for stopping by!
🤣🤣 Yes - extremely laggy, buggy and unresponsive in instances. Plugging in iphone for carplay early bricks the entire system. Many constant glitches as well. Was one of several reasons I moved on from this Lincoln ... thanks for stopping by!
I heard great feedback on those! Already went through a few cars after the Aviator, currently in a 2023 RS6! Check out our latest video. Thanks for stopping by!
Great review and I agree with overpowering engine sound. I want the likes you pointed out but need an engaging ride. I walked away thinking that too. Interesting to hear about the build quality comment too. I'm new to Lincoln so this is useful feedback. I would be interested to know what 7 seater luxury suv you recommend. I think we're both after the same thing 😊
Appreciate your great comment! I have a corsair for the weekend as the Aviator is in for service, and I feel like the ('22) Corsair build quality far exceeds the Aviator. None of the annoying raspy engine sounds. Peppy. No squeaks, no rattles. Quieter ride. Rides superb on the springs. No swaying or any of the floaty feeling the Aviator gives. I am honestly much more impressed with the corsair package, even though its a much smaller car, and wouldn't fit my family needs at the moment. I am now shopping X7 M50i and Audi SQ7. Still both 6/7 passenger, premium build quality on both, both very engaging (SQ7 more so), and tons of fun with the V8 motor. Probably a few more bucks then the Aviator, but to me is well worth it. I really really tried to like the Aviator, but it's got too many cons vs. the pros for my liking - especially when I'm looking for more engagement for day-to-day driving. Good luck on the hunt. This is a tough segment for me as I'm used to sports car / small SUVs and sports sedans. Not a large car fan here! 😁
@@ayoubyakoob7146 It's a great ride. Might be tough to find right spec but they are out there. Fast as heck. Check out my review here: th-cam.com/video/Cci3XqDrYXU/w-d-xo.html
I keep thinking it's on the sluggish end of the V6tt spectrum, plus that loud engine grunt doesn't help! The X5 does it much better on the 6 cylinder version.
While somewhat true, some cars do a better job eliminating then others. This just overall had a very 'lazy throttle', and I would would have liked to see a touch more responsiveness. Overall it fit the personality of the car. Thanks for stopping by!
Awesome review and thanks for the raw and honest feedback. It is a beautiful vehicle, but I agree that if it lacks what makes you happy - the value is not worth it.
Was nice to try something different (I'm used to german sports sedans and SUVs). Those feel much 'tighter' overall, but the Aviator has a level of 'luxury' feel that is many times unmatched by German rivals. Pros and Cons to all! Thanks for the feedback / watching :)
I hate that car makers make wheels non dirrectional. One side swirls forward, the other side swirls backwards........ FAIL. I like the Lincoln's however.
I had one for a week (prior to purchasing mine). I went into mine not having fully evaluating the air suspension and I definitely liked the springs better. Much more composed ride, without all the float.
Finally an honest & respectful review! They do have a lot of catching up to do compared to the other suv’s in this price class. You can’t charge $80k (Black Label) and already having negative reliability reports, & that’s not based on this video! The Aviator looks better than the MDX & most in this class, but it will not last over time (300k miles) the MDX & a few others will!
Absolutely right. It's a charmer in looks - but lincoln has a LOT of work to do to bring it up to the quality of all the rivals. This car is lacking in several areas for me, and missing that enthusiast kick I'm looking for. I REALLY wanted to love the car, and have it be part of our family for years... but at the end of the day many parts and pieces of it seem more like a homemade project then a manufacturer that knows what they are doing. I believe many people are willing to overlook the negatives here with this car, as it does offer several pros in various areas ... just not enough to win me over. Thanks for stopping by!!
I am looking for a luxury vehicle that will last 300k and beyond. What do you recommend. Lexus and Acura doesn’t give me the interior look and quality I want.
@@moniqueswinney5730 300K is tough outside of reliable Japanese brands. There are some decent interiors in Kia/Hyundai but not sure how they hold up over 10+ years. Lexus/Acura is your best bet if longetivity and luxury are key for you. Thanks for stopping by!
Acceleration is lacking?!? Da fuq? No. I have been driving SUV’s and the Aviator is at the top of the class for acceleration. It’s not a sports coupe bro. Now handling isn’t top of class, but it’s not bad. The only suv that would be better is the Mazda CX-90 or a Beemer m series, but then you have to give up the comfort and space. In the case of the German’s don’t plan on owning it more than 5 years. You don’t seem like a guy who turns a wrench. So after 100k that German is going to start to break down on you.
Thanks for stopping by! All cars have their pros and cons! We found this Lincoln to be lazier on the throttle and response then many of it's competitors. While this Lincoln gets up and moves it definitely is not a top athlete in it's class. BUT as you mentioned, perhaps this all comes from your point of reference and other cars you've driven. I sure do like my Germans, and give up on them long before they hit 100K miles 🤣🤣. Thanks for watching!
German cars are not perfect cars, when they break down they break down. Parts are expensive and the depreciation value on Audi, BMW, Mercedes is insane. Yes they are more sporty and have a nice quality feel to them but I think its an illusion, just look at the resale on some of these cars. People that buy them switch cars every 2-3 years. They also have electrical issues because of all the electronics. The Lincoln is whats known as "American Luxury". So depends what you're used to. Also from what I can see the aviator is depreciating fast so can pick up a used one a couple of years old at half the price now.
Agreed, almost every luxury SUV in this segment has depreciates quite a bit - that's just the price you pay for driving one of these. Every brand does have it's issues. I have had nothing but 'luck' with Audis owned last 10+ years so to see Lincoln drop the ball so hard on quality control / build quality is extremely disappointing. Won't be returning to the brand anytime soon. Thanks for stopping by!
I bought this one sight unseen - but drove another one with fixed springs (that I liked better!) Sometimes you gotta own the car for a bit to come to a consensus!
That might address some of the issues but the car adds quite a bit more heft + tons more reliability issues that come up with that engine. I think the hybrids still have a way to go to be a sell for me. Thanks for stopping by!
@@thedesertroad This seems to be the best time for having a wide selection for SUVs or Crossovers to pick from. Maybe it just me or expecting too much; but, very few seem to check all the boxes and stand out.
@@mrgold3591 Yep totally agreed, as they are geared for the masses and aimed for (family) comfort. I also really enjoyed the SQ7 we recently reviewed - really does do everything well, unique/rare and almost zero compromises. Looks are bland and price tag is $100K , but otherwise a great car.
@@thedesertroadactually Ford's hybrid systems are generally the most reliable part of their engines. My wife is still driving her 2013 C-Max Hybrid with 150k and 0 engine issues. Since the electric motor takes a lot of the strain off of the gas motor the gas motors in the hybrids actually tend to last longer and since they disconnect in electric mode the gas motor has a lot less usage miles on it than the actual miles of the vehicle. It's also why Priuses tend to drive forever they use the same technology they got from Ford.
It depends on what interior trim you like best. Black labels come with their own 'themes' inside. They drive identical as long as you spec out the same options on both (mainly the air suspension). I liked the leather color in the Reserve over the Black Label - but the Black Label comes with certain add ons that you can't get in the Reserve (i.e. leather wrapped dash, alcantara headliner, soft close doors, etc). BL is mostly all cosmetic upgrades, which were not worth it to me. Thanks again for stopping by!!
@@getoeasy1570 Yes arguably that's the best part of the car to me (exterior design). I do like the interior as well. The engine , especially the noise is unrefined and wish it had a bit more pep. Car is very slow to take off / accelerate. Can really use a V8 in here!!
Some do it better then others -- try the inline 6 on the X5 for a comparison to see how refined and smooth that engine is (with much better pickup as well). Thanks for stopping by!!
@@steveknight9254 Love many of the supercharged engines available, especially in my previous S4! Some 6 cyl turbos though do it better then others. The BMW inline 6 is magical! - thanks for stopping by!!
All cars got their pros and cons! The Aviator is actually rated as one of the most unreliable American cars there is ... go figure. Very hit or miss on the particular one you get for reliability, and I would definitely stay away from the Hybrid for now. Thanks for stopping by!
Beautiful car. My parents are trying to decide between getting a Range Rover. Or the Lincoln Aviator. Please help!!! We currently have a 2013. BMW 320i with 112,211 miles on it. And it has a lot of problems and we need a new car. But we don’t need a massive SUV. We’ve had our fair share of those. We are preferably looking for a used car because the last time my parents tried buying a brand new car they were both involved in accidents. And it’s really only me that’s gonna be getting rides from them to and from school. Since my brother has his own car already. We want something that’s big but not too big and something with legroom. That’s something our current car doesn’t have and we want Bluetooth well better Bluetooth than our current car at least. Our current car has Bluetooth. But it SUCKS. My dad is 6’2 to 6’3 and I’m 6’1 to 6’2 both of us are very tall neither one of us fit in our current car so maybe this would be a good upgrade? We may also get a second car in another year or so since both of my parents will be starting their new jobs in Albany New York. We currently live in Massachusetts. Thank you!
Please be cautious on either one. Both suffer from underwhelming reliability - so I'd be cautious on both. Aviator should be a bit cheaper to run and operate. I would test drive both and see what fits your needs the best. I would not own EITHER of these cars out of warranty as there are tons of electrical gremlins that come up time to time. Both are great looking cars, but would not be my #1 choice in this segment. Thanks for stopping by!
@@thedesertroad But which one should they go for? We haven’t pulled the trigger yet but we are planning to very soon. Currently getting ready to move. And we have to head to 2 funerals. So we are just trying to have a car soon. My parents really like the Lincoln Aviator and the Range Rover. But we can’t decide. They keep flipping flopping between the two and they’ve even asked me which one I like. I personally like the Aviator. We shall see what they go with.
@@DJMACK193 IMHO - the aviator has a smaller cost to buy in, and depreciates less then the range rover. I have not seen or heard many favorable PROS for the range rover - from the people I talked with. I would go with the Aviator between these two but even still you are rolling the dice. Buy as new as possible and make sure to have warranty on it. Try and stay away from the hybrid version, they are even more problem prone. Overall the Aviator has a luxury/plush ride -- that many do enjoy. The car looks great as well, especially black on black as I had. Good luck!
Not sure on the Traverse, but build quality and fit and finish on this gen Aviator left me very cold. It provides a 'comfy' ride for the right buyer - but between (constant) documented reliability issues, poor fit and finish and outdated technology -- I'd give a traverse a more serious look if you lean American. Thanks for stopping by!
That's one way to sum it up 🤣🤣 It's not a 'bad car' just definitely wasn't the car for me. Build quality sucks @ss. Infotainment is 10 years behind. Lincoln has a LOT of work to do to catch up to 2024 standards. Thanks for stopping by!
The aviator on 'springs' rides much better and feels more planted then air suspension. Make sure to test drive both before committing. Thanks for stopping by!
I have one in My garage now. I brought it home for a test drive. I have 48hrs to decide and I’m on the fence! 🥹 as far as get up and go, I’ll have to beg to differ on that one. I’m having to watch my lead foot because as soon as I tap on the gas, I’m getting whiplash. I do have to realize this is a luxury vehicle and that I’m not punching around no Dodge charger aroundTown. This ain’t that type of ride ♥️
Wow - what are your cons with the car? It was a good car - just not the right car for me. Good Luck on deciding, it's a tough choice. Personally I'm more of a firmer ride / german car enthusiast but this is def a luxury ride through and through! Thanks for stopping by.
@@thedesertroad the interior is a dealbreaker. Luckily I have a sandstone and a rich black color so it’s very chic. I did not like that camel brown Brady Bunch 1970s look. The interior seems a little dated, but otherwise I can get over it. I don’t have the illumination package so I’m looking into installing fog lights on the bottom if not, then I’ll have to live without them. Overall, I’m loving the ride.
@@carmenrenee5146 I agree with your points. It's tough to retrofit the foglights as there are no prewired connections down there (I looked into it briefly). Otherwise enjoy the car and hopefully it ends up in your garage for a while!!
Not sure how the explorer ST but sometimes even the same engine gets different tuning and throttle response. For one of the best and very responsive 6 cylinders check out the X5 as it's a perfect pairing to that car. Thanks for stopping by!
(1) You brought a luxury SYV and can't even pronounce the name...😂 (2) Plus, there is no such thing as a "perfect" car... as you stated. (3) Lincoln's are for those who appreciate pure American luxury cruising...not harsh driving, hard leather seat, bumpity European vehicles.
so what im hearing is you bought a luxury SUV but wanted a ford explorer ST or a mercedes AMG? wth? its not the SUV then its you not driving the vehicle before you bought it or did any research. it came out in 2020 with the redesign so its not like there isn't material out there to see. i have one and i love it. its luxury, your supposed to be in comport not feeling the road bumps lol thats why air suspension exists. go with an S Class, air suspension for floating comfortable feeling, you want a AMG car. This video then makes no sense and was a waste a time except for the presentation of the car and features.
The fun in all is trying something new and learning all the pros/cons that come with it. I was underwhelmed quite a bit with this car (build quality and all) -- and solidified my opinion of what I really DO like. Already went through a few cars after this one. Thanks for stopping by!
Good luck - it's a good car just make sure to look out for build quality issues, and there are still tons of reliability concerns even on the latest models. Thanks for stopping by!
@@Mike060504 Very floaty ride with the air susp on here, that I personally do not enjoy! When I test drove one of these with springs it drove better. Luxury is probably a level above explorer here. Looks phenomenal as well! Good luck - not a bad car but make sure you like the SEATS, engine noise and the floaty ride if you buy this on air suspension.
@@thedesertroad would not opt for air suspension. Dealership by me has black reserve with jet package for 66k. Explorer is not much less and is much lower quality. Transmission calibration is awful. They did it correct with the Lincoln. I’m already used to that engine
@@Mike060504 I think you will enjoy the upgrade then! I am going bmw/audi next for a firmer suspension and sportier riding drive. Good luck - black w/jet is the best spec out there.
Not any better in person - it was wearing quite quickly. And yes, even low mileage Aviator examples seats start looking wrinkly fast. Definitely not Lincolns / Fords best work. Thanks for stopping by!
Great review and like you stated the Lincoln is just less engaging. The Germans just do everything that much better with the exception of that cushy ride. We have had 3 Audis and love them but am looking at BMW X5 but the X7 a little to long for the wife to drive gives us more room we need. Waiting for the possible 24 Q7 refresh. Good Luck
Yes - def less engaging. Almost every german rival will have a sportier ride. The car feels more stable and firm if you opt for the springs not the air suspension. Too disconnected from the road for me - will be looking to go back to german soon! X5/X7 both great. New Q7 should be awesome, and doesn't provide the bulk of the X7 with 3 rows as well. Good luck and thanks for the feedback!
Yep! Left after a few months. Now in an M50i BMW X5! Couldn't get past the build quality, glitchy electronics, lazy gas pedal and floaty ride. No more lincolns for now. Thanks for stopping by!
There are pros and cons to each car, but lincoln can really step up their build quality / infotainment department a few notches! Thanks for stopping by today!
I've been driving new Audis for 10+ years now and almost never a single issue! Not sure how late models BMWs hold up. The Lincolns (especially Aviators) have obvious flaws they still need to address! Thanks for stopping by and watching our video!
@TheDesertRoad BMW is notorious for mechanical issues, so much in fact they started including service plans with purchase. Don't get me started on Audi. Brand new RSQ8 in the shop for over a month waiting on a part for computer malfunction. I am told that because of supply chain constraints there is a delay. Audi has given a loaner vehicle but still.
@@rerjr007 Wow. The RSQ8 is on my short list for one of my next cars. The only Audi I had an issue with was on my RS7 when both turbos went at 28K miles on a stock car. Otherwise nothing but great experience with them. Thanks for your feedback.
Great car if you think $80,000 for 19 days of pleasure is worth it face-fuchsia-tongue-outI p/u a new 2021 Aviator reserve which I fell in love with same as the dude in the video has been bragging about but after 19 days of pure pleasure the entire electrical system went crazy now the vehicle has been in service 3 time for a total of 41/2 months and nothing has been repaired and even more is wrong with it The f------en car is such a piece of sh____It has been nothing but trouble for the last year and a half, Now It is sitting in a storage unit for the last 7 months because its a safety hazard and I will not put my family in it nor will I put the public in danger . Hers just a few of the issues, while driving on the highway the front end starts to shimmy furiously to the point that I have to make my way over to the shoulder. Or all of a sudden the car feels as the brakes are on as I'm driving 100km an hour on the highway Or all of a sudden the back end on the car dips as if the hatch has opened .the screen does not lower its intensity automatically or manually so when your driving at night its literally blinding you . I could name at least 5 other major problems that occur and the worst part of it all .the problems that occur happen randomly you never know when its going to happen so BEWARE!!!!!!!!! I hope I've helped you make a safe decision
Thanks for your feedback - there have been various reports of reliability issues on these, but supposedly newer models are better + generally good to stay away from the hybrids. Good Luck with the next car and thanks for stopping by!!
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Thought the silly pronunciation was part of the silly look... Shorts, shirt, hat..lol
@@vica153 Thanks for stopping by today!
Your first problem with the car is pronouncing its name. Lincoln should come and repossess it from you with extreme prejudice.
We will work on that 🤣🤣 Thanks for watching !!
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Your complaints are the very things a Lincoln is known for. Complaining about the smooth ride? That's a hallmark of Lincoln. Know before you buy. Who could hate the smooth Lincoln ride? Beats me. Best ride on the market.
I like the feel of springs more on the Aviator then the air. Quality can definitely be improved, same with the SYNC3 infotainment. Thanks for your feedback and for watching!
Only someone who can't pronounce the name correctly.
lol the negatives you pointed out are stupid. This is a luxury car dude, it has plenty of power and is supposed to float over bumps. Get a mustang or a corvette.
Hey thanks for your feedback! It's a great car for a specific person - but personally I like tighter suspension and better steering feedback (even in an SUV!). Appreciate you watching :)
Why are y’all being so rude to him
I have to say, i test drove the aviator a couple of days ago and i have to disagree about how fast it is. This thing is really fast and it takes off with no lag at all. i owned a range rover sport 2014 v6 which was fast but the aviator was actually faster and had no problems going 0-6 in under 6 seconds. Insane!
It's interesting you find that! I think the throttle / acceleration overall is very laggy. I compare it to other 6 cylinders that have way more pep get up and go (BMW 6 cyl for example in X5, etc). This aviator to me accelerates and feels like a much larger car (and coarse engine noise doesn't do it for me either in here). All in all, it's not 'slow' but you have to be on it quite a bit to make it go. Again this is coming from someone who is used to 'faster' cars / suvs / sport sedans so in the real world I'm sure this might actually be seen as a car with good pickup! Glad you enjoyed the test drive! Are you in the market for one?
@@thedesertroad That's the thing as a previous owner of the rr sport which was fast with 340hp this aviator with 400 and for its size is super fast and i did not notice it being slow at any point of the test drive, i did use EXCITE mode of course but the other modes were also very decent when i stepped on the gas. i think 8 out of 10 people would say it has great power and a more than good acceleration. Great review by the way.
@@largon2008 Thank you - appreciate you stopping by our channel!!
Its a luxury suv, not a sport suv. Meh….
@@noroom4commies086 Correct - even on luxury side still some things left to be desired (loud engine noise, crap build quality, seats that squeal, etc.). Going more sport on my current M50i X5 but ultimately they are all great cars. Thanks for stopping by!
I have a Grand Touring Black Label with everything but the air suspension. I love it!
They are definitely good cars if you enjoy a plush ride!! Thanks for stopping by!
Notice there is no mention in the video about the power plant under the hood. Throttle response in my 2020 is awesome, even in conserve mode. I always run in conserve mode. Mine has a 3L twin-turbo putting out 400hp, 415ftbs torque. Doing 70 one day stuck behind 4 left lane squatters, saw a break on the right and tapped the pedal. Almost instantly, the Avaitor jumped to over 90. The Avaitor flew past the 4 squaters in just a few seconds leaving them in the dust. Engine noise - none, it is very quiet. There is a nice muscle car growl from the exhaust. Soft ride, what did he expect from a luxury car? Lincolns are not exactly sports vehicles. If that's what he wants, should have bought a Camaro, Mustang, Corvette, Porsche, etc. I think then he would have complained about lack of space and luxury.
I had the 3.0, and was underwhelmed with the response. Many complaints online of the coarse engine noise, especially pulling away from a light / stop that was very unpleasant. No easy way to turn that off! Overall, it's a good car for the right customer - but the slew of quality control issues ./ build quality made me get out of her after a 4 month stint. Highly disappointing issues with something made after 2020! I generally like a sportier ride, but that's not what ultimately soured me on this car. Thanks for stopping by our channel today!
Hey there, if your still active on youtube I would like to know how the reliability of this car is as most people online say it is questionable at best.
@@thedesertroadwho buys a luxury suv for a sporty ride is what everyone is trying to say, 400hp is plenty for a luxury suv 😂
@@f8widescat392 Yep wasn't my cup of tea! Thanks for stopping by!
I'm not gonna give you a hard time, but 400hp 415 tourqe , I mean, it's not a BMW M series's but at sea level 5.8 sec 0-60 MPH is very impressive. I hope you find what your looking for.
sounds like you bought it for the you tube content, not the car it's self. the reason you buy this car is because of the floaty ride. this car is meant to cruise not to speed. the speed is there for when you need it. and of course it will never ride like a euro car. i cant stand the stiff ride of those cars.
I bought it for the 'floaty ride' - but realized shortly that I actually prefer a firmer ride overall. Sometimes you just got to change things up!!
I tried to love it I really did but just wasn't the car for me. My current X5 M50i suits me much better! Thanks for stopping by :)
I have the aviator and hands down better than the bmw.
Which BMW are you comparing it to? There are pros and cons to both ... Aviator is a great ride, just not the best one for myself! Thanks for your feedback and for watching !!
Have a Aviator and a X5. I drive the Aviator nowadays
I appreciate the feedback. Good to know all the “cons” were stuff I can deal with.. for the price, it seems like a steal
Yes, it offers great 'value' for the money - and a lot of features that typically other manufacturers nickel and dime for. If you can get past the cons, and enjoy American automobiles -- this is a worthy contender. Thanks for stopping by!
As someone who has been an avid Lincoln fan for decades and someone who has worked in the Aviation field for quite some time…. You were killing me with the name. At least there was great eye candy tho. I’ve never wanted to be a pair of shorts more in my life. Your wife’s a lucky lady!
Working on the name!! ... and yes she got one of the good ones ;-) Thanks for stopping by!!
The air suspension is the best part! It’s what makes it so smooth. If I wanted an athletic vehicle, I’d kept my m40i.
For me the feeling was too much disconnected from the road - many other air suspensions strike a better balance. But I get it - it's a Lincoln after all! Thanks for stopping by!
@@thedesertroad Here's an interesting update. I traded my '21 m40i for a '23 CPO Black Label Aviator. My wife has a '20 Explorer ST. About the same vehicle. She has a ton of problems with hers, but I figured since it was the first year of a new model, they'd worked stuff out by now. They did NOT. Screen going black, blue screen of backup death. Clunky transmission. On a CPO with 18k miles! Luckily Lincoln has a killer money back guarantee. The dealer did me a solid. They allowed me to return the car and hop back into my m40i. So, I did. Lincoln is still just a Ford with a loaner program. No better than the Explorer, unfortunately.
@@lockheedload I didn't have any mechanical issues, but had tons of quality control / build quality issues I couldn't look past on such a modern vehicle. The insanely slow / glitchy infotainment was bothering me as well. I got out of her after 4 months and have never though of that car again! Happy you were able to get back into the m40i. I'm in a M50i and the build quality between the Aviator and my BMW is night and day. This was my first / most likely last american vehicle for a while. Good luck in whatever direction you decide to go next!
@@thedesertroadSuper happy that I was fortunate enough to get my car back! I have been eyeing the M50i. I will probably check it out. I'm done with American vehicles, unless they improve dramatically. Take care!
@@lockheedload Check out my review on that one. Definitely a great all-arounder. Best of luck to you!
That tawng 😂😂😂 I've never heard aviator butchered in such a way
Pardon my french! And thanks for stopping by and watching our review! :)
This is definitely the best and accurate feeling I wanted to hear. Now everything has fallen into place!
Thanks for watching and stopping by our channel :)
Good review! Just test drove one of these (Black Label version) a few days ago and loved every bit of the drive and experience. I wish it had a 12/12.3 infotainment center though. The reason I'm partial to this Lincoln Aviator and also The 2023 Volvo S90 Ultimate is due to the fact it doesn't appear to be no where as many of these on the roads compared to all the Lexus, BMW, Mercedes, etc. Love the fact of having something a little different from the masses. Best of luck on your new vehicle!
That's exactly why I picked up mine for that reason is that they are nowhere near as common as all the competitors. It's a solid alternative, and a great package -- but keeps me wishing for 'more' on each drive that I take. The black label offers a few more interior goodies, but the ride is identical to mine. Thanks for your feedback and watching !!
@@thedesertroad Understandable! You're welcome! If you're able or have time in the future, would you consider doing a review on the 2023 Volvo S90 Ultimate? If you're able too, it would be appreciated! Thanks again!
@@createdinHisimage1 More Volvos is always on our list! Will try and look at that as soon as we can!
@@thedesertroad Thank you so much!
The aviator is based off of the explorer st which has A LOT of aftermarket support. People getting 500 hp on an easy BPU+ and tune.
Valid point. Wasn't looking to mess with all that especially as Aviator is already tons prone to issues/problems all around. Thanks for stopping by!
Something is wrong with this guy saying 400hp is not enough and driving the "Aviator" not avi-ator in eco mode
Very lazy throttle in here - really gotta work at it to make this car move. It's not designed to be an athlete - but versus other competitors it leaves some to be desired. Thanks for stopping by the channel! :)
What’s the range for a full tank on this car? I saw you had more than 3 quarters of a tank but the indicator showed 178 miles to go, does it even go 200 miles on a full tank???
Great question, never fully sure what I got to the tank. All I know is that MPG wasn't great, doing city driving I was barely able to squeeze out 14mpg in here. A bit weak considering the power in this car wasn't all that great, and I wasn't a speed demon. My m50i X5 with the V8 performed better in the gas department. Thanks for stopping by!
About 392 miles. I own an Aviator.😁
Great review... Enjoyed it. The first 2 issues are fine for me, but the build quality issue is concerning.
Thank you! The build quality issues hurt the most, especially for a 2023 car. Paint issues, creaking, freezing screens - there were too many to list. Thanks for stopping by!
You’re the only person in about 6 reviews that said the vehicle is not fast enough. But thanks for taking the time to do the review. I’m going to be looking at Lincoln SUV's. Im looking forward to driving the Aviator with that 400hp engine. That air suspension sounds like the Lincolns from the 70's. I don’t think I would like the air suspension either. It sounds like you would be happier in a BMW. Im also looking at the X3 & X5.
To me the car just seemed to have lazy acceleration all around. It was never eager to go.
I ended up in a X5 M50i and it addresses a majority of my complaints. What really drove me away from Lincoln is the build quality all around, and that terrible horrible infotainment system.
The floatiness and sway over every uneven surface drove me nuts! IMHO the 40i X5 is the way to go overall, but if you must for more power the V8 ones are great. I was not a fan of the X3s. Good Luck and let me know what you think!
Get the reserve package. 22" wheels look really great. With a 400hp/415 ft.lbs of torque 3.0L Twin Turbo, it has more than enough get up and go when you step on the gas. It has some engine growl when you start moving, but it gets very quiet as you drive, and has a very solid ride. Put it in Excite mode, and you hear and feel more of the engine. It not only adjusts the transmission, but the suspension and sound inside the car as well. I've had mine for a little less than a month. Upgraded from a 3.7L 2016 MKX Reserve, and this is a tremendous move up. I am loving it.
I don’t have the air suspension option but it’s still very smooth and soft. It’s a great car and great bang for buck like you said, but the technology very glitchy and I never had problems like that in any bmws I owned. Definitely need a sports car as a 2nd car to make up for the lazy ride.
Agreed on all your points. I prefer the standard suspension to the air 100% on this car. The car feels more solid and more planted on the road. Next time I'd opt it without air. My tech is very glitchy as well, screen takes a while to load and sometimes I have random screen resets. And def +1 on the sports car as second ride. As I currently need to have two cars in one - I'm looking at M50i X7 and SQ7 for my next daily driver. Both of those offer a great ride, tons of power and bit more driver involvement. The X7 leans more luxury then SQ7 - but still adds in some sport over the Aviator which is a nice medium. Thanks for your feedback and watching!
@@thedesertroad I remember when I was choosing between the Aviator and Q7, I sat in the Q7 and it felt smaller... and the trunk seemed smaller to me but maybe its my imagination. X7 is great, I'm considering getting it as well.
@@Stantep You are absolutely right. We just taped an SQ7 as well (th-cam.com/video/Cci3XqDrYXU/w-d-xo.html&t), and although the car is identical in length to the Aviator, it feels and looks smaller inside and out. The SQ7 really wraps around you and rides sporty, where as the Aviator feels full on SUV mode! You are also correct, trunk space IS smaller in the SQ7, although still 'plenty' with the 3rd row down. X7s are nice, but definitely feels a size above the Aviator when it's parked and driving, and definitely a tradeoff as well in that department as many of the parking spaces around Scottsdale here are very small. All great choices, and I'm happy I got to try an American car !
So for under three hundred bucks you could have just put a sprint booster on it and fixed your lazy throttle. I've had one on every Mercedes I've ever owned because they tend to have slow throttles and after that they are as quick if not faster response than most BMWs I've driven.
I have heard those work well - never tried it myself. Great tip. Thanks for stopping by!!
I thank you for your review of this suv, I think it's like you said you've gotten us to a ruff truck like drive .
This suv isn't known for a ruff drive or ride 🤔 people usually want a comfortable,,smooth enjoyable ride from an suv like this .
It sounds like you didn't give that much of a priority when you bought this suv.
It's all about the luxury, luxurious ride.
It's a good car, just wasn't the right car for me. Thanks for stopping by!!
Don’t buy a Lincoln if you don’t want everything you complain about. If you bought the pluggable option you would have another 100 hp electric motor helping with not only in your 0-60 speed but a fantastic increase in gas mileage. 500 HP and 600 ft lbs of torque makes a difference. How about over 30 MPG on the highway and 75 MPG in the city as long as you plug it in at night and keep your drive mileage to 20 miles of battery life? My gas bill has dropped $100/month just keeping my car plugged in at night. Since I only pay 10 cents per KWH for electricity, I only pay for the long trips in gas. My electric bill only increased $10/month! I only fill the tank 1x per month and we still take plenty of day trips away from home. The pay off for the pluggable option took only 2 years.
I didn't trust buying the hybrid as the boards are flooded with issues/reliability problems. You are correct some of my cons would of been addressed by that platform, but not all of them. All-in-all it was Lincolns poor build quality, semi-uncomfortable seats, crap infotainment, floaty ride and poor dealer network around where I live that ultimately made me give it up. Hope to see an improvement out of them for the next round of Aviator updates/production. Thanks for stopping by!
Was wondering that did you not test drive this car before purchasing?
We actually reviewed a 2023 prior to this, but that one had a slightly different setup (no air suspension, etc). After owning this one for a bit - it doesn't have enough of an enthusiast core to it to be a long term keeper in the garage! Fantastic car, just not for me! Thanks for watching and commenting!
BY FAR BEST REVIEW THANK YOU!
I'm happy you enjoyed it - thanks for stopping by the channel today!
Shouldnt the Aviator feel about as fast as an Explorer ST since they have the same engine?
Correct same engine - not sure how they feel vs. each other as haven't driven an explorer ST yet! Not sure if it's in the tuning or the engine/transmission combo but to me it was a lazy throttle and an engine that never fully wanted to 'go'. The car wasn't slow - but far from an athlete by any standard!! Thanks for stopping by!
Thanks for the honest, fair, intelligent review.
Glad you found it informative! Thanks for stopping by the channel !!
For the simple fact you didn't add the lag and non responsiveness of the infotainment system is shocking to me. And what's a heavyator?
🤣🤣 Yes - extremely laggy, buggy and unresponsive in instances. Plugging in iphone for carplay early bricks the entire system. Many constant glitches as well. Was one of several reasons I moved on from this Lincoln ... thanks for stopping by!
MDX Type S will be your best bet. You'll be amazed by the best AWD in the market, SHAWD; not even Quattro can compare.
I heard great feedback on those! Already went through a few cars after the Aviator, currently in a 2023 RS6! Check out our latest video. Thanks for stopping by!
Given Ford's lack of quality in recent years, I'll take a hard pass on this vehicle.
I'm still seeing problems on the 25s reported on the boards. Lincoln def needs to step it up, some of it is inexcusable. Thanks for stopping by!
Great review and I agree with overpowering engine sound. I want the likes you pointed out but need an engaging ride. I walked away thinking that too. Interesting to hear about the build quality comment too. I'm new to Lincoln so this is useful feedback. I would be interested to know what 7 seater luxury suv you recommend. I think we're both after the same thing 😊
Appreciate your great comment! I have a corsair for the weekend as the Aviator is in for service, and I feel like the ('22) Corsair build quality far exceeds the Aviator. None of the annoying raspy engine sounds. Peppy. No squeaks, no rattles. Quieter ride. Rides superb on the springs. No swaying or any of the floaty feeling the Aviator gives. I am honestly much more impressed with the corsair package, even though its a much smaller car, and wouldn't fit my family needs at the moment.
I am now shopping X7 M50i and Audi SQ7. Still both 6/7 passenger, premium build quality on both, both very engaging (SQ7 more so), and tons of fun with the V8 motor. Probably a few more bucks then the Aviator, but to me is well worth it.
I really really tried to like the Aviator, but it's got too many cons vs. the pros for my liking - especially when I'm looking for more engagement for day-to-day driving.
Good luck on the hunt. This is a tough segment for me as I'm used to sports car / small SUVs and sports sedans. Not a large car fan here! 😁
@@thedesertroad ohhh SQ7. I like I may give that a try. Way too many beemas and ranges' in VAN.
@@ayoubyakoob7146 It's a great ride. Might be tough to find right spec but they are out there. Fast as heck. Check out my review here: th-cam.com/video/Cci3XqDrYXU/w-d-xo.html
Owned one for 1.5 years and for the weight of the vehicle it has very decent pickup… and my other car is an m550 and m240
I keep thinking it's on the sluggish end of the V6tt spectrum, plus that loud engine grunt doesn't help! The X5 does it much better on the 6 cylinder version.
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It’s a turbo engine which means you will get a lag in response
While somewhat true, some cars do a better job eliminating then others. This just overall had a very 'lazy throttle', and I would would have liked to see a touch more responsiveness. Overall it fit the personality of the car. Thanks for stopping by!
Awesome review and thanks for the raw and honest feedback. It is a beautiful vehicle, but I agree that if it lacks what makes you happy - the value is not worth it.
Was nice to try something different (I'm used to german sports sedans and SUVs). Those feel much 'tighter' overall, but the Aviator has a level of 'luxury' feel that is many times unmatched by German rivals. Pros and Cons to all! Thanks for the feedback / watching :)
I hate that car makers make wheels non dirrectional. One side swirls forward, the other side swirls backwards........ FAIL. I like the Lincoln's however.
I didn't mind these wheels, particularly because they drove decent for 22s. Thanks for stopping by the channel today!
Thats a great spec..totally agree about the headliner
Black headliner a must! Thanks for watching ;)
You might have enjoyed the ride better in a Reserve without the air suspension.
I had one for a week (prior to purchasing mine). I went into mine not having fully evaluating the air suspension and I definitely liked the springs better. Much more composed ride, without all the float.
Finally an honest & respectful review! They do have a lot of catching up to do compared to the other suv’s in this price class. You can’t charge $80k (Black Label) and already having negative reliability reports, & that’s not based on this video! The Aviator looks better than the MDX & most in this class, but it will not last over time (300k miles) the MDX & a few others will!
Absolutely right. It's a charmer in looks - but lincoln has a LOT of work to do to bring it up to the quality of all the rivals. This car is lacking in several areas for me, and missing that enthusiast kick I'm looking for. I REALLY wanted to love the car, and have it be part of our family for years... but at the end of the day many parts and pieces of it seem more like a homemade project then a manufacturer that knows what they are doing. I believe many people are willing to overlook the negatives here with this car, as it does offer several pros in various areas ... just not enough to win me over. Thanks for stopping by!!
I am looking for a luxury vehicle that will last 300k and beyond. What do you recommend. Lexus and Acura doesn’t give me the interior look and quality I want.
@@moniqueswinney5730 300K is tough outside of reliable Japanese brands. There are some decent interiors in Kia/Hyundai but not sure how they hold up over 10+ years. Lexus/Acura is your best bet if longetivity and luxury are key for you. Thanks for stopping by!
Acceleration is lacking?!? Da fuq? No. I have been driving SUV’s and the Aviator is at the top of the class for acceleration. It’s not a sports coupe bro. Now handling isn’t top of class, but it’s not bad. The only suv that would be better is the Mazda CX-90 or a Beemer m series, but then you have to give up the comfort and space. In the case of the German’s don’t plan on owning it more than 5 years. You don’t seem like a guy who turns a wrench. So after 100k that German is going to start to break down on you.
Thanks for stopping by! All cars have their pros and cons! We found this Lincoln to be lazier on the throttle and response then many of it's competitors. While this Lincoln gets up and moves it definitely is not a top athlete in it's class. BUT as you mentioned, perhaps this all comes from your point of reference and other cars you've driven. I sure do like my Germans, and give up on them long before they hit 100K miles 🤣🤣. Thanks for watching!
German cars are not perfect cars, when they break down they break down. Parts are expensive and the depreciation value on Audi, BMW, Mercedes is insane. Yes they are more sporty and have a nice quality feel to them but I think its an illusion, just look at the resale on some of these cars. People that buy them switch cars every 2-3 years. They also have electrical issues because of all the electronics. The Lincoln is whats known as "American Luxury". So depends what you're used to. Also from what I can see the aviator is depreciating fast so can pick up a used one a couple of years old at half the price now.
Agreed, almost every luxury SUV in this segment has depreciates quite a bit - that's just the price you pay for driving one of these. Every brand does have it's issues. I have had nothing but 'luck' with Audis owned last 10+ years so to see Lincoln drop the ball so hard on quality control / build quality is extremely disappointing. Won't be returning to the brand anytime soon. Thanks for stopping by!
400hP is not enough for this car?? What??
Did you take it for a test drive? Then why did you buy it?
I bought this one sight unseen - but drove another one with fixed springs (that I liked better!) Sometimes you gotta own the car for a bit to come to a consensus!
owned it for a month and cant even pronounce the name right... lol
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I don't keep up with Lincoln brands; but, I thought they had a hybrid version with 494hp/630tq? That might solve the throttle response issue.
That might address some of the issues but the car adds quite a bit more heft + tons more reliability issues that come up with that engine. I think the hybrids still have a way to go to be a sell for me. Thanks for stopping by!
@@thedesertroad This seems to be the best time for having a wide selection for SUVs or Crossovers to pick from. Maybe it just me or expecting too much; but, very few seem to check all the boxes and stand out.
@@mrgold3591 Yep totally agreed, as they are geared for the masses and aimed for (family) comfort. I also really enjoyed the SQ7 we recently reviewed - really does do everything well, unique/rare and almost zero compromises. Looks are bland and price tag is $100K , but otherwise a great car.
@@thedesertroadactually Ford's hybrid systems are generally the most reliable part of their engines. My wife is still driving her 2013 C-Max Hybrid with 150k and 0 engine issues. Since the electric motor takes a lot of the strain off of the gas motor the gas motors in the hybrids actually tend to last longer and since they disconnect in electric mode the gas motor has a lot less usage miles on it than the actual miles of the vehicle. It's also why Priuses tend to drive forever they use the same technology they got from Ford.
when did the new generation come out ? 2022?
The current gen run is 2020-2023. There is a new aviator in the works for 2024. Thanks for watching !!
Who is better option model Reserve or Black Label ?
It depends on what interior trim you like best. Black labels come with their own 'themes' inside. They drive identical as long as you spec out the same options on both (mainly the air suspension). I liked the leather color in the Reserve over the Black Label - but the Black Label comes with certain add ons that you can't get in the Reserve (i.e. leather wrapped dash, alcantara headliner, soft close doors, etc). BL is mostly all cosmetic upgrades, which were not worth it to me. Thanks again for stopping by!!
@@thedesertroad ty for the info
@@getoeasy1570 Thanks for watching !!
@@thedesertroad yw man but i love the body design and interior exterior also and the engine is good
@@getoeasy1570 Yes arguably that's the best part of the car to me (exterior design). I do like the interior as well. The engine , especially the noise is unrefined and wish it had a bit more pep. Car is very slow to take off / accelerate. Can really use a V8 in here!!
Lincoln Navigator is the best car ever
The navigators are great also - stayed tuned for a review on our channel! Thanks for stopping by and watching :)
The suv runs almost high 13s in the 1/4 and it's lazy? It's a luxury suv. Not a macan turbo or X3m.
It moves if you are fully on it - just very hesitant to 'go'. Thanks for stopping by!
@@thedesertroad for sure. As any turbo v6 suv does.
It’s a turbocharged engine, there will always be a bit of turbo lag when you get on it that’s just the way they are.
Some do it better then others -- try the inline 6 on the X5 for a comparison to see how refined and smooth that engine is (with much better pickup as well). Thanks for stopping by!!
@@thedesertroad you need to buy a supercharged engine, there is no lag with them. Buy an Audi TFSI.
@@steveknight9254 Love many of the supercharged engines available, especially in my previous S4! Some 6 cyl turbos though do it better then others. The BMW inline 6 is magical! - thanks for stopping by!!
It’s AY-VIATOR
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Then go spend more on a German car...so tired of reviewers comparing cars that are $20k+ more...and good luck when it breaks...
All cars got their pros and cons! The Aviator is actually rated as one of the most unreliable American cars there is ... go figure. Very hit or miss on the particular one you get for reliability, and I would definitely stay away from the Hybrid for now. Thanks for stopping by!
Beautiful car. My parents are trying to decide between getting a Range Rover. Or the Lincoln Aviator. Please help!!! We currently have a 2013. BMW 320i with 112,211 miles on it. And it has a lot of problems and we need a new car. But we don’t need a massive SUV. We’ve had our fair share of those. We are preferably looking for a used car because the last time my parents tried buying a brand new car they were both involved in accidents. And it’s really only me that’s gonna be getting rides from them to and from school. Since my brother has his own car already. We want something that’s big but not too big and something with legroom. That’s something our current car doesn’t have and we want Bluetooth well better Bluetooth than our current car at least. Our current car has Bluetooth. But it SUCKS. My dad is 6’2 to 6’3 and I’m 6’1 to 6’2 both of us are very tall neither one of us fit in our current car so maybe this would be a good upgrade? We may also get a second car in another year or so since both of my parents will be starting their new jobs in Albany New York. We currently live in Massachusetts. Thank you!
Please be cautious on either one. Both suffer from underwhelming reliability - so I'd be cautious on both. Aviator should be a bit cheaper to run and operate. I would test drive both and see what fits your needs the best. I would not own EITHER of these cars out of warranty as there are tons of electrical gremlins that come up time to time. Both are great looking cars, but would not be my #1 choice in this segment. Thanks for stopping by!
@@thedesertroad But which one should they go for? We haven’t pulled the trigger yet but we are planning to very soon. Currently getting ready to move. And we have to head to 2 funerals. So we are just trying to have a car soon. My parents really like the Lincoln Aviator and the Range Rover. But we can’t decide. They keep flipping flopping between the two and they’ve even asked me which one I like. I personally like the Aviator. We shall see what they go with.
@@DJMACK193 IMHO - the aviator has a smaller cost to buy in, and depreciates less then the range rover. I have not seen or heard many favorable PROS for the range rover - from the people I talked with. I would go with the Aviator between these two but even still you are rolling the dice. Buy as new as possible and make sure to have warranty on it. Try and stay away from the hybrid version, they are even more problem prone. Overall the Aviator has a luxury/plush ride -- that many do enjoy. The car looks great as well, especially black on black as I had. Good luck!
@@thedesertroad It’s more for my parents not really for me. But good to know. My dad was taking about the hybrid version. But again we’ll see.
@@thedesertroad Is it best to buy a new aviator or a used one?
BEST AVIATOR SELLER EVER!!!🎉🎉
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I believe you can get without air ride.
Yes - that is arguably the 'better' choice for this car. Thanks for stopping by!
This better than traverse rs 2024 v4 2.5 ?
Not sure on the Traverse, but build quality and fit and finish on this gen Aviator left me very cold. It provides a 'comfy' ride for the right buyer - but between (constant) documented reliability issues, poor fit and finish and outdated technology -- I'd give a traverse a more serious look if you lean American. Thanks for stopping by!
Basically, a 14-minute mumble to say " A 5200 lb Lincoln feels bigger than a 3800 BMW ".
That's one way to sum it up 🤣🤣
It's not a 'bad car' just definitely wasn't the car for me. Build quality sucks @ss. Infotainment is 10 years behind. Lincoln has a LOT of work to do to catch up to 2024 standards.
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It's supposed to be a floaty ride...
The aviator on 'springs' rides much better and feels more planted then air suspension. Make sure to test drive both before committing. Thanks for stopping by!
I have one in
My garage now. I brought it home for a test drive. I have 48hrs to decide and I’m on the fence! 🥹 as far as get up and go, I’ll have to beg to differ on that one. I’m having to watch my lead foot because as soon as I tap on the gas, I’m getting whiplash. I do have to realize this is a luxury vehicle and that I’m not punching around no Dodge charger aroundTown. This ain’t that type of ride ♥️
Wow - what are your cons with the car? It was a good car - just not the right car for me. Good Luck on deciding, it's a tough choice. Personally I'm more of a firmer ride / german car enthusiast but this is def a luxury ride through and through! Thanks for stopping by.
@@thedesertroad the interior is a dealbreaker. Luckily I have a sandstone and a rich black color so it’s very chic. I did not like that camel brown Brady Bunch 1970s look. The interior seems a little dated, but otherwise I can get over it. I don’t have the illumination package so I’m looking into installing fog lights on the bottom if not, then I’ll have to live without them. Overall, I’m loving the ride.
@@carmenrenee5146 I agree with your points. It's tough to retrofit the foglights as there are no prewired connections down there (I looked into it briefly). Otherwise enjoy the car and hopefully it ends up in your garage for a while!!
I have a ‘21 Explorer ST with same engine and it is close to my ‘15 Mustang GT convertible. This guy is bias.
Not sure how the explorer ST but sometimes even the same engine gets different tuning and throttle response. For one of the best and very responsive 6 cylinders check out the X5 as it's a perfect pairing to that car. Thanks for stopping by!
Thanks. I will.
Awesome and GL :)
Lincoln Ave-iator! Lol
I get it though. English isn’t your first language. Cheers mate!
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(1) You brought a luxury SYV and can't even pronounce the name...😂
(2) Plus, there is no such thing as a "perfect" car... as you stated.
(3) Lincoln's are for those who appreciate pure American luxury cruising...not harsh driving, hard leather seat, bumpity European vehicles.
Thanks for your feedback and stopping by! It's a bit soft for my liking but finds plenty of fans overall!
so what im hearing is you bought a luxury SUV but wanted a ford explorer ST or a mercedes AMG? wth? its not the SUV then its you not driving the vehicle before you bought it or did any research. it came out in 2020 with the redesign so its not like there isn't material out there to see. i have one and i love it. its luxury, your supposed to be in comport not feeling the road bumps lol thats why air suspension exists. go with an S Class, air suspension for floating comfortable feeling, you want a AMG car. This video then makes no sense and was a waste a time except for the presentation of the car and features.
The fun in all is trying something new and learning all the pros/cons that come with it. I was underwhelmed quite a bit with this car (build quality and all) -- and solidified my opinion of what I really DO like. Already went through a few cars after this one. Thanks for stopping by!
Why cant he say Aviator correctly ?
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My next car if god want me too
Good luck - it's a good car just make sure to look out for build quality issues, and there are still tons of reliability concerns even on the latest models. Thanks for stopping by!
Did you try an explorer st?
Never did, but don't like the look OR the interior of the explorer. Supposedly explorer offers a sportier ride as well! Thanks for stopping by!!
@@thedesertroad I have one and it’s sporty. Was thinking of switching to aviator
@@Mike060504 Very floaty ride with the air susp on here, that I personally do not enjoy! When I test drove one of these with springs it drove better. Luxury is probably a level above explorer here. Looks phenomenal as well! Good luck - not a bad car but make sure you like the SEATS, engine noise and the floaty ride if you buy this on air suspension.
@@thedesertroad would not opt for air suspension. Dealership by me has black reserve with jet package for 66k. Explorer is not much less and is much lower quality. Transmission calibration is awful. They did it correct with the Lincoln. I’m already used to that engine
@@Mike060504 I think you will enjoy the upgrade then! I am going bmw/audi next for a firmer suspension and sportier riding drive. Good luck - black w/jet is the best spec out there.
That seat material looks so cheap, like what they use for generic fords, you can just tell its going to look like crap after 30k miles.
Not any better in person - it was wearing quite quickly. And yes, even low mileage Aviator examples seats start looking wrinkly fast. Definitely not Lincolns / Fords best work.
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Great review and like you stated the Lincoln is just less engaging. The Germans just do everything that much better with the exception of that cushy ride. We have had 3 Audis and love them but am looking at BMW X5 but the X7 a little to long for the wife to drive gives us more room we need. Waiting for the possible 24 Q7 refresh. Good Luck
Yes - def less engaging. Almost every german rival will have a sportier ride. The car feels more stable and firm if you opt for the springs not the air suspension. Too disconnected from the road for me - will be looking to go back to german soon! X5/X7 both great. New Q7 should be awesome, and doesn't provide the bulk of the X7 with 3 rows as well. Good luck and thanks for the feedback!
GLS fits perfectly between the 2 luxury and driving engagement.
@@sebastienmarvonhalen1166 Have never checked that one out, will have to give it a shot! Thanks for the suggestion and for watching!
"aviator" is pronounced as "AY-vee-ay-ter."
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Ты подбираешься уже к страшным цифрам) играй с умом, брат, а то так можно и слиться)
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LOL it`s pronounced ...AYY Vi AYY TOR not AWW Vi Ayy TOR
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If you can't pronounce Aviator correctly, probably not the car for you dude.
It's not the name - it's the build quality that's the problem with these. Thanks for stopping by !!
The way he doesn’t know how to pronounce aviator was really annoying me.
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Ave e ator. 🤯 OMG 😳
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This guy seems like an absolute tool
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Seriously?
Yep! Left after a few months. Now in an M50i BMW X5! Couldn't get past the build quality, glitchy electronics, lazy gas pedal and floaty ride. No more lincolns for now. Thanks for stopping by!
AYY-VEE-AYY-TOR
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You mispronounced the name bro- come on!
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can i buy it lol
Sold it a year back! Thanks for stopping by the channel!
Ayyyyviator. Not aveeeator.
This guy is lost and clueless
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Those suv are junk
There are pros and cons to each car, but lincoln can really step up their build quality / infotainment department a few notches! Thanks for stopping by today!
Cringe
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Absolute cringe review.
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Audi BMW are always broken ...so much for build quality
I've been driving new Audis for 10+ years now and almost never a single issue! Not sure how late models BMWs hold up. The Lincolns (especially Aviators) have obvious flaws they still need to address! Thanks for stopping by and watching our video!
@TheDesertRoad BMW is notorious for mechanical issues, so much in fact they started including service plans with purchase. Don't get me started on Audi. Brand new RSQ8 in the shop for over a month waiting on a part for computer malfunction. I am told that because of supply chain constraints there is a delay. Audi has given a loaner vehicle but still.
@@rerjr007 Wow. The RSQ8 is on my short list for one of my next cars. The only Audi I had an issue with was on my RS7 when both turbos went at 28K miles on a stock car. Otherwise nothing but great experience with them. Thanks for your feedback.
@@thedesertroad sure no problem
Great car if you think $80,000 for 19 days of pleasure is worth it face-fuchsia-tongue-outI p/u a new 2021 Aviator reserve which I fell in love with same as the dude in the video has been bragging about but after 19 days of pure pleasure the entire electrical system went crazy now the vehicle has been in service 3 time for a total of 41/2 months and nothing has been repaired and even more is wrong with it The f------en car is such a piece of sh____It has been nothing but trouble for the last year and a half, Now It is sitting in a storage unit for the last 7 months because its a safety hazard and I will not put my family in it nor will I put the public in danger . Hers just a few of the issues, while driving on the highway the front end starts to shimmy furiously to the point that I have to make my way over to the shoulder. Or all of a sudden the car feels as the brakes are on as I'm driving 100km an hour on the highway Or all of a sudden the back end on the car dips as if the hatch has opened .the screen does not lower its intensity automatically or manually so when your driving at night its literally blinding you . I could name at least 5 other major problems that occur and the worst part of it all .the problems that occur happen randomly you never know when its going to happen so BEWARE!!!!!!!!! I hope I've helped you make a safe decision
Thanks for your feedback - there have been various reports of reliability issues on these, but supposedly newer models are better + generally good to stay away from the hybrids. Good Luck with the next car and thanks for stopping by!!