Among other milestones like hitting the 10k subscribers mark for this channel, I also got my first copyright strike yesterday when I tried uploading this! So I pulled a few extra hours of render time and to not set off any alarms in this repload. So far it's good, and hopefully it stays that way. Also, for those keeping track of the Omega Nose Art: Roanoke - Raiden Shogun Alexander - Prince Alexander of Daventry Churchill - Darjeeling Agrippa - Eula Lawrence Patreon: patreon.com/user?u=98553222 Twitter: twitter.com/MacsLore Bluesky: bsky.app/profile/macslore.bsky.social
“Bill, did you ever meet the Captain of the Clarkstown?” “He and the General were at the academy together. Hage introduced him to me last summer, he has a wife back home. Three small children, and an Abassynian cat named Max.” “That what makes this war different then anything we’ve ever gone through before.” “This time, we know everyone we kill.”
It's really weird to watch Babylon 5 now after seeing how crazy our world has gotten. Just look what happened earlier today. Babylon 5 is more relevant than ever.
Yeah same here. I was never in my life time would a president go full dicator/puppet and America would be a banana republic. Though I'm assuming y'all are talking about something old blackface Trudeau did. God bless y'all stay safe.
I’ve watched the entirety of the Babylon 5 run during the Bush-Iraq war years, the authoritarian cop state Trump years, and the bumbling Biden and you know who authoritarian moment (years???) and found relevance in all three periods.
this is a great re-telling of this scene. And this is one of the most beloved sequences in B5 lore. I still get chills when Delen shows up and saves the day. This was an excellent reminder of a wonderful scene!
DeLenn's speech to the EA task force is still one of the best moments of ANY TV series I've seen. This episode in particular was well written, well paced and is just one of those moments when you know history is being made. Awesome episode. It will always be one of my favorites.
Some say that General Hague *wasn't* actually killed while fighting against Clark Loyalist forces. Instead, they claim that he was arrested on Earth while trying to lead a coup of his own by one Captain Benjamin Lafayette Sisko.
"...we will remain an independent state until President Clark is removed from office." Goosebumps, and again when Delenn tells the Clark ships to get lost.
@@randlebrowne2048 Whatever happens, we can take some small comfort in the fact that Deep Space 9 had to pay an out of court settlement to Babylon 5 back in the day.
@@PY5RA J. Michael Straczynski, the man behind B5, pitched the idea for a space station setting for Star Trek to Paramount with the whole long war arc and everything, they rejected his pitch so JMS went and made the show himself with B5. Paramount started producing DS9 at the same time, resulting in "Bruh."
This is just such a good edit. Nice CGI additions. Does justice to B5, it deserves more stuff like this. The Earth-Minbari war was also a great edit. Keep up the good work.
It's nice of the President to issue his martial law directive using the Serpentine typeface - the same one used in the show's titles. Excellent choice, Clark.
I have been a fan of B5 since it was first broadcast in the UK. Its one of those multi season stories that I admire and wished other Sci-Fi series were like this.
10:30 my only critique of this whole video is that you showed the Shadow battleship exploding rather than the insect-like curling of it's spars when it was killed
I imagine one would rig the ship with skeleton like you would animate a character... but do very very bad weight-paint on it, then have fun with it imploding when you try to animate it.
Oh wow. These effects are so good, and they show such a love and care for the show...and for making content for your channel. Very few take the time to edit, script and design unique shots and b-roll for every sentence of content they say. I say... Kudos to you! 😊
Man I love Babylon 5. This show needs much needed updating thow. Not with the story but with the graphics. Awesome video. We live for the one. We die for the one
The story is excellent and it’s amazing what they did at the time with the budget they had. Imagine what this show would be like with a big budget from Netflix or Amazon.
Eh, B5's 3d graphics is very lucky for the day. If it was a few years prior or later it would have looked way more dated and terrible. If only the origional toaster frames were saved it could have had an easy remaster unlike with any of the graphics prior or later since they were hand drawn and generated. The only terrible scenes are starfury cockpit scenes and the infamous Londo* Narn homeworld* bombardment zoom out on higher resolutions. It simply suffers from the same issues as Startrek TNG as it was filmed for home video and not the bigscreen with only 10% of the budget DS9 had per episode.
Thanks for the story!!!! I was a fan of the series but back then I couldn't understand all the back story going on. With you video now I do. Thanks a lot!
Heh. I always say that B5 is a series you need to watch end to end at least three times to get most of the story...the first time to get the main story, the second time to catch all the build-up, setup, and foreshadowing (there's some things in there that get set up and take literal *years* to pay off), and a third time to get all the background setups and foreshadowing that you missed the first two times.
B5 was The Bomb, loved this show, was so ahead of its time, had great graphics and the storylines were GREAT! I think I need to go back and re-watch this and now that I'm an adult, I don't think I paid much attention to Nightwatch and what that really means! Strange how this subject, when not knowing much about the world, means so much more know, regarding government spies and people "snitching" on each other. I was so interested in the Mbari religion and how all the main characters were locked in a forever war but eventually all came around!
I deeply love the B5 story and show but this is one of the things that bugged me over the years. Clark would never have been on EF1. For security reasons a Vice President and President travel on different transports.
Awesome video. Loved B5 and thise Lore video just reignited my memory of among the absolute BEST saci fi shows ever. Seeing the rise of the Clark regime makes me think of how "by the book" another dictator has taken power in another nation right here in our reality...
For my money Severed Dreams is still the single best hour of TV ever. I was getting ready to go out on a date when it was airing but after 15 minutes i canceled the date to watch it. To this day after seeing her on facebook years later i made the right choice.
Love your video as I am in middle of rewatching Babylon 5 on Tubbi. Its a shame we will never get to see the Omegas fire their broadside missiles in anger as their designer intended (these are the red tubes you see on their sides)
@@PY5RA TH-cam deleted my comment replying to you because I named (not site address, the site name) a site that has the designer notes. Stupid of TH-cam.
That shadow vessel wasn't activated to defend Ganameed. The people in Ganameed station was alright sending someone inside it before the white star even got their attention but the rest of Sol did respond to the white star Intrusion with the EAS Agamemnon. And the older to place by 105 under the nightwatch came from the political office. Though it had ties to the President. They could not give military personnel orders.
Excellent summary of one of the most interesting stories within the saga of Babylon 5! A shame you got a BS copyright strike, clearly every bit of this video is for discussion, and much of it transformative. Fight the strike, it will drop off.
👌😎👍Very cool and very nicely greatly well done in every detail way shape and format provided indeed Sir!, And I myself still own the entire DVD collection and all the various made for cable movies plus the most recent animated one of Babylon 5 which is still one of the greatest series ever made indeed!...
where did you get those 3D renders? tell me there is a "babylon 5 online" somewhere. Can't wait for you to dive in into B5 lore, Your narration, as per usual, great!
Amazing work as always! So...when are you gonna dio your toe into Battletech? Noone is really doing the fighters and spacecraft from the setting. It'd be right up your alley!
Still one of the best interconnected sci fi series ever. One could only dream what would have happened if Star Trek Enterprise was given the go ahead with J.Michal Straczynski
Well I hope you're happy... I'm going to have to go rewatch all of Babylon 5 now... on the other hand, Thanks I'm going to go rewatch all of Babylon 5 now... Have a good day!
A nice video but one detail you got off. Its never said how many Destroyers joined the initial rebellion or how many were shot down. It says four of five Cruisers that defected with Hague were shot down. In the Earth Alliance Cruisers are a separate smaller type of warship from Destroyers. The most common EA Cruiser seen in the series for example is the Hyperion class which a little over 1,000 meters long while an Omega is more then 1,700 meters long
@@ommadawn8434 I just hope that they disinfect Hollywood of the woke mind-virus before they do reboot it (the original showrunner is actively working on shopping scripts around for a pilot).
@@randlebrowne2048 Woke is just a word people use who don't understand the real problem. The writers today think that just because a character is minority that is all that is needed. You need characters that are not defined by being the minority but something else.
@catprog Woke is reflexively parroting the currently prevailing progressive party line in a cult-like manner to avoid social ostrizization. Because that party line is ever shifting, the woke live in constant terror of becoming tomorrow's "facists". They will sacrifice anything, and anyone, to avoid being cast out from the cult.
One thing; Nightwatch's orders didn't come from thrme President's Office. As Commander in Chief, that would have been through the Chain of Command. Their orders came from The Ministry of Peace, a branch of Clark's Political Office, thus outside of the Chain of Command.
Among other milestones like hitting the 10k subscribers mark for this channel, I also got my first copyright strike yesterday when I tried uploading this! So I pulled a few extra hours of render time and to not set off any alarms in this repload. So far it's good, and hopefully it stays that way.
Also, for those keeping track of the Omega Nose Art:
Roanoke - Raiden Shogun
Alexander - Prince Alexander of Daventry
Churchill - Darjeeling
Agrippa - Eula Lawrence
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a copy right strike?! for what?!!!
Probably for using B5 music :/
Welp... at least there's no strikes remaining, while your tracking ways?
I approb.
Love the nose art.
Actually it was one of the video clips in the CG, it ran on a little too long for TH-cam's liking. Surprisingly the music is ok.
B5's rise to an independent state is one of the greatest space opera stories ever told! Great video. This is why we ring the bell, people!
Definitely up there alongside the story of Kuun-Lan from Homeworld. Great writing.
@@PY5RA Ooo a fellow Cataclysm fan. o7
“Bill, did you ever meet the Captain of the Clarkstown?”
“He and the General were at the academy together. Hage introduced him to me last summer, he has a wife back home. Three small children, and an Abassynian cat named Max.”
“That what makes this war different then anything we’ve ever gone through before.”
“This time, we know everyone we kill.”
You left out “Lord knows what I’ll say to both their wives.”
@@sdfried4877 honestly my favorite depiction of a civil war in media
Reminds me of a lot of things says by general officers during the American civil war. “I killed my brother with balance in my heart.”
Bittersweet memories. So many of that magnificent cast have since passed away.
Yeah and its a good 30 years NEWER than Star Trek the original series - Kirk is still alive because Khan failed 😄
I know what you mean. I watched this counting the people lost.
Its weird how many passed. We got a reunion of the full cast of TNG... Yet we wont ever be able to have that with B5.
That threat by Delenn still gives me chills.
Still does to this day
Indeed, it is sad that we lost the actor :(
B5 is not over , the story has yet to be written.
Take hart young ones, their is more to come.
Amen to that
"There is only one human that has destroyed a Minbari vessel. He is behind me, you are in front of me. If you value your lives be somewhere else."
It's really weird to watch Babylon 5 now after seeing how crazy our world has gotten. Just look what happened earlier today. Babylon 5 is more relevant than ever.
Yeah, I too thought it was funny while working on this that a president going full-dictator was the realm of Science-Fiction back in the 90s.
Totally!
Yeah same here. I was never in my life time would a president go full dicator/puppet and America would be a banana republic. Though I'm assuming y'all are talking about something old blackface Trudeau did. God bless y'all stay safe.
Yes indeed
I’ve watched the entirety of the Babylon 5 run during the Bush-Iraq war years, the authoritarian cop state Trump years, and the bumbling Biden and you know who authoritarian moment (years???) and found relevance in all three periods.
this is a great re-telling of this scene. And this is one of the most beloved sequences in B5 lore. I still get chills when Delen shows up and saves the day. This was an excellent reminder of a wonderful scene!
Deleen's speech was epic. "Withdraw...... or be destroyed!" Ooooooh chills down the spine.
DeLenn's speech to the EA task force is still one of the best moments of ANY TV series I've seen. This episode in particular was well written, well paced and is just one of those moments when you know history is being made. Awesome episode. It will always be one of my favorites.
Some say that General Hague *wasn't* actually killed while fighting against Clark Loyalist forces. Instead, they claim that he was arrested on Earth while trying to lead a coup of his own by one Captain Benjamin Lafayette Sisko.
Hague just does not have luck with coups in any universe.
And some say he also failed a group named CADMUS and a Kryptonian clone named Galatea in their campaign against a Justice League Unlimited.
Some say that he Is still out there. That he didn't die because his agent double booked him 😅
One of my favorite sci fi shows of all time.
And i've been watching them since the 70's
*Thanks for this Babylon 5 Lore Video.*
"...we will remain an independent state until President Clark is removed from office." Goosebumps, and again when Delenn tells the Clark ships to get lost.
B5 and BSG were without question, the two greatest sci-fi dramas of the last 30 years.
If I may add "The Expanse"...
I think B5 and the new BSG have a lot of similarities.
50 years. BSG is a tad older then the remake.
And I think the only reason you would not put Stargate SG-1 or Atlantis on that list is because they were more action-oriented than drama oriented
God is this glorious! If only they would redo the show like this. Your channel is just so amazing covering the great sci-fi stories.
JMS has plans for a reboot, it got caught up in the WB/discovery merger and again with the paramount merger.
@@bobstorr4986 I hope something comes of all that.
Sheridan personally kicking the shit out of the fascist Earthgov was the absolute peak of Babylon 5. Ivanova I imagine felt the same way
and, yet, it rose again years later. sad
You’re always the biggest blessing in the world when you post your videos
Right in the nostalgia. B5 was so good.
I'm both looking forward to, and afraid of, the reboot series that is trying to get off the ground now.
@@randlebrowne2048 Whatever happens, we can take some small comfort in the fact that Deep Space 9 had to pay an out of court settlement to Babylon 5 back in the day.
@@omganotherun Wait, really ? What for ?
@@PY5RA J. Michael Straczynski, the man behind B5, pitched the idea for a space station setting for Star Trek to Paramount with the whole long war arc and everything, they rejected his pitch so JMS went and made the show himself with B5. Paramount started producing DS9 at the same time, resulting in "Bruh."
@@randlebrowne2048 Really...given that so many of the key actors that made it so great have passed away. :-/
Now we need the shadow war and the liberation of earth next, great work.
Enjoyed the jokes sprinkled throughout, narration stayed serious which made the jokes funnier when they showed up.
This is just such a good edit. Nice CGI additions. Does justice to B5, it deserves more stuff like this. The Earth-Minbari war was also a great edit. Keep up the good work.
I cannot think of a better way to kick off a Wednesday evening.
It's nice of the President to issue his martial law directive using the Serpentine typeface - the same one used in the show's titles. Excellent choice, Clark.
The zoom out from the fighter is an awesome shot, it better expresses exactly how big B5 really is.
Another banger video @MacsLore thanks for the work!
Still the best TV scifi show, with such memorable characters - nice work Mac!
Great work on the look and feel. Gives it a "documentary" feel.
It must've taken immense time and effort. Just know it's very appreciated.
I have been a fan of B5 since it was first broadcast in the UK. Its one of those multi season stories that I admire and wished other Sci-Fi series were like this.
Amazing work, highly impressed!
And your support on Patreon helps make it happen. Thank you truly, as always
Great video, can't wait to watch more!
Nicely done, RIP the dear departed. Many lessons for today's world.
😁Never missed an episode of this, B5 ranks up there with the other Great Space Operas.👏Thanks much
11:58 Prince Alexander of Daventry. Hell of an easter egg.
Great work @MacsLore. This looked great and was awesome. Getting the ship models makes this a notch above the rest in quality.
It's also a good way to go insane as a one-man dev team, but I certainly can't argue with the results.
@@MacsLore that it man. As a one man creator you need all the help you can get.
Im really enjoying your updated artwork and CGI of B5.well done.
10:30 my only critique of this whole video is that you showed the Shadow battleship exploding rather than the insect-like curling of it's spars when it was killed
I imagine one would rig the ship with skeleton like you would animate a character... but do very very bad weight-paint on it, then have fun with it imploding when you try to animate it.
Delenn speech is always so damn awesome to watch
Oh wow. These effects are so good, and they show such a love and care for the show...and for making content for your channel. Very few take the time to edit, script and design unique shots and b-roll for every sentence of content they say. I say... Kudos to you! 😊
Man I love Babylon 5. This show needs much needed updating thow. Not with the story but with the graphics. Awesome video. We live for the one. We die for the one
The story is excellent and it’s amazing what they did at the time with the budget they had. Imagine what this show would be like with a big budget from Netflix or Amazon.
Eh, B5's 3d graphics is very lucky for the day.
If it was a few years prior or later it would have looked way more dated and terrible.
If only the origional toaster frames were saved it could have had an easy remaster unlike with any of the graphics prior or later since they were hand drawn and generated.
The only terrible scenes are starfury cockpit scenes and the infamous Londo* Narn homeworld* bombardment zoom out on higher resolutions.
It simply suffers from the same issues as Startrek TNG as it was filmed for home video and not the bigscreen with only 10% of the budget DS9 had per episode.
It's been weeks, and it seems that nobody's noticed the Alexander portrait -- from King's Quest VI. Hilarious, but also phenomenal stuff as always.
Thanks for the story!!!! I was a fan of the series but back then I couldn't understand all the back story going on. With you video now I do. Thanks a lot!
Heh. I always say that B5 is a series you need to watch end to end at least three times to get most of the story...the first time to get the main story, the second time to catch all the build-up, setup, and foreshadowing (there's some things in there that get set up and take literal *years* to pay off), and a third time to get all the background setups and foreshadowing that you missed the first two times.
I’m impressed with your editing, storytelling and animation work on this video. I’m in for the subscription. Cheers.
Only one human has survived an attack by a Minbari force. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else!
B5 was The Bomb, loved this show, was so ahead of its time, had great graphics and the storylines were GREAT! I think I need to go back and re-watch this and now that I'm an adult, I don't think I paid much attention to Nightwatch and what that really means! Strange how this subject, when not knowing much about the world, means so much more know, regarding government spies and people "snitching" on each other. I was so interested in the Mbari religion and how all the main characters were locked in a forever war but eventually all came around!
the speech by delene on guarding B5 is easily one of the most badass speeches, just ever
"No Surrender. No Retreat"
This is a very very well done. I was watching it in my head as you were talking. This was outstanding.
Thank you Mac.
Because I love Babylon 5 😊👍
I deeply love the B5 story and show but this is one of the things that bugged me over the years. Clark would never have been on EF1. For security reasons a Vice President and President travel on different transports.
Of course, leadership protocols of just one nation may not be that similar to a spacefaring UN.
a mistake by JMS. They are rare.
Awesome video.
Loved B5 and thise Lore video just reignited my memory of among the absolute BEST saci fi shows ever.
Seeing the rise of the Clark regime makes me think of how "by the book" another dictator has taken power in another nation right here in our reality...
Really appreciate the B5 content. Can't wait to see more. Subscribed.
Very well done! Your video has me thinking of rewatching B5 for the 8th time.
Awesome content and video. Well done!
yay more B5 content! love!
hell yeah, more lore! Battlestar galactica (2003) lore next please, I would LOVE to see a video like this about the first cylon war
Why? Did it turn out that every human was, in fact, a Cylon?
This is one awesome video. I really hope that the creator of B5 can somehow manage to make more content or remake this fantastic series.
This was a good summation of the B5 storyline. Long live 90's SciFi TV Shows.
Great synopsis. Thank you for writing it
Great work with the video!
how did this masterpiece come out of 90s network television? I still can't wrap my head around it.
For my money Severed Dreams is still the single best hour of TV ever. I was getting ready to go out on a date when it was airing but after 15 minutes i canceled the date to watch it. To this day after seeing her on facebook years later i made the right choice.
i miss this show. great job
This was a very well made video. Thank you
Love your video as I am in middle of rewatching Babylon 5 on Tubbi. Its a shame we will never get to see the Omegas fire their broadside missiles in anger as their designer intended (these are the red tubes you see on their sides)
If the reboot (by the same showrunner) ever actually gets off the ground, we might just see it yet!
Broadside missiles ?? Sounds pretty wild.
@@PY5RA yep. look up B5 Scrolls. Click on The Ships, then Earthforce and the first page has the designer notes on omega.
@@PY5RA TH-cam deleted my comment replying to you because I named (not site address, the site name) a site that has the designer notes. Stupid of TH-cam.
Just fond your channel. Love the way you retell these stories. Going to sub.
I really do love Severed Dreams so much, its such a good episode.
That shadow vessel wasn't activated to defend Ganameed. The people in Ganameed station was alright sending someone inside it before the white star even got their attention but the rest of Sol did respond to the white star Intrusion with the EAS Agamemnon. And the older to place by 105 under the nightwatch came from the political office. Though it had ties to the President. They could not give military personnel orders.
Outstanding documentary ❤
Excellent summary of one of the most interesting stories within the saga of Babylon 5! A shame you got a BS copyright strike, clearly every bit of this video is for discussion, and much of it transformative. Fight the strike, it will drop off.
👌😎👍Very cool and very nicely greatly well done in every detail way shape and format provided indeed Sir!, And I myself still own the entire DVD collection and all the various made for cable movies plus the most recent animated one of Babylon 5 which is still one of the greatest series ever made indeed!...
"Severed Dreams" is my favorite episode, JMS's too!
This was a great series. Sometimes predictable, but still deep and thought provoking.
When you say, "Do not force us to engage your ships"
And they respond with, "Why not?"
That sultry Canadian voice gets me everytime. God I love Mac's Lore
Great Video! Are you going to do videos on the Shadow War and Earth Alliance Civil War?
This is still one of my favorite shows of all time.
Your best video yet! Give us more B5 content! PS: More Homeworld and Star Trek would be nice too :D
Absolutely fantastic! More B5! Damnit, take my money and give me more B5!
Be somewhere else. One of the best moments in TV for me.
Valeu!
No, thank you!
nice work!!
where did you get those 3D renders? tell me there is a "babylon 5 online" somewhere. Can't wait for you to dive in into B5 lore, Your narration, as per usual, great!
Amazing work as always!
So...when are you gonna dio your toe into Battletech? Noone is really doing the fighters and spacecraft from the setting. It'd be right up your alley!
Still one of the best interconnected sci fi series ever.
One could only dream what would have happened if Star Trek Enterprise was given the go ahead with J.Michal Straczynski
Stunning.
You need to do the narn-centauri war or shadow war
Well I hope you're happy... I'm going to have to go rewatch all of Babylon 5 now... on the other hand, Thanks I'm going to go rewatch all of Babylon 5 now... Have a good day!
Mac.... Is that. Prince Alexander of Daventry on the Alexander? You mad bastard.
A nice video but one detail you got off. Its never said how many Destroyers joined the initial rebellion or how many were shot down. It says four of five Cruisers that defected with Hague were shot down. In the Earth Alliance Cruisers are a separate smaller type of warship from Destroyers. The most common EA Cruiser seen in the series for example is the Hyperion class which a little over 1,000 meters long while an Omega is more then 1,700 meters long
VERY well done video
B5 is still the best of all the sci-fi series kof the 80s 🤟😎
Problem with that statement, it came out in the '90s.
1993-1998
This was really the best sci-fi show out there. Such a good story, so many amazing characters. It is a shame the the network kept f'ing with them.
Hot damn this was good
I miss B5. Might watch it again. Very sad that almost everyone died that was in that show.
"To absent friends, in memory still bright."
Still one of the best SciFi series ever made. I pray they never try to reboot it.
@@ommadawn8434 I just hope that they disinfect Hollywood of the woke mind-virus before they do reboot it (the original showrunner is actively working on shopping scripts around for a pilot).
@@randlebrowne2048
Woke is just a word people use who don't understand the real problem.
The writers today think that just because a character is minority that is all that is needed.
You need characters that are not defined by being the minority but something else.
@catprog Woke is reflexively parroting the currently prevailing progressive party line in a cult-like manner to avoid social ostrizization.
Because that party line is ever shifting, the woke live in constant terror of becoming tomorrow's "facists". They will sacrifice anything, and anyone, to avoid being cast out from the cult.
Very, very well done.
Good work.
Well done.
Really well done, I especially loved the meme poster "STFU Alien Lovers" 😂.
I love this show!!!!
One thing; Nightwatch's orders didn't come from thrme President's Office. As Commander in Chief, that would have been through the Chain of Command. Their orders came from The Ministry of Peace, a branch of Clark's Political Office, thus outside of the Chain of Command.
The episode where they succeded was THE moment wherebBabylon 5 started its real legacy.