Classic Character Delay & Echo Sounds For Guitar: Which Would You Choose? - That Pedal Show
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- We explore classic ‘character’ delay types including Echoplex & Space Echo (tape), Echorec (drum), Memory Man (analogue) and oil can types: which is your favourite?
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Welcome to the show! You could definitely say that Dan and I are big fans of ‘character’ delay sounds. From the behemoth Binson Echorec T7E to Roland Space Echoes, the Maestro Echoplex and more, we have done many a deep dive on these cornerstones of guitar echo tones (please check out our Delay & Reverb playlist in this channel).
What we haven’t done however is a more entry-level/overview-type comparison video to give newcomers a basic idea of the key schools of character delay… erm, until now.
In this episode we leave out the vintage esoterica and ultra-boutique unobtanium and instead assemble our faves in the current character delay pedal world in order to inspire you towards some more inspiration and fun with the humble echo pedal.
Do we need to repeat that? Yes - endlessly!
Enjoy the episode…
Pedals & stuff in this episode…
• TheGigRig Three2One
www.thegigrig....
• Boss DD-3T Digital Delay
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2O5F5uS
Australia: bit.ly/2O8HQLZ
USA: bit.ly/3cPcWV9
• Boss DM-2w Waza Craft Analogue Delay
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2lGaoBw
Australia: bit.ly/2vT8ulc
USA: bit.ly/3HVtKYW
• Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man TT-1100
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2WbQLhG
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• Boss RE-20 Space Echo
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2INcFS2
USA: bit.ly/3xuKwcD
• Catalinbread Belle Epoch Deluxe
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2RVldeS
Australia: bit.ly/2Ovelqa
USA: bit.ly/2ZvVCSk
• Dawner Prince Boonar
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2lXzfON
• Catalinbread Adineko
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2k1O0lE
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Australia: bit.ly/2kkhOu8
• Empress Echo System
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2x5i4z4
• ZVEX Effects Box of Rock
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3jlJuqA
Australia: bit.ly/35Fg4h8
• TheGigRig G3
www.thegigrig....
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Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- Info to come
Guitars in this episode:
• PRS McCarty Soapbar - Mick’s video at bit.ly/30fmsdN
• Fender Custom Shop 1963 Telecaster - Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
• Supro Jamesport - no video yet
Amps in this episode
• Victory V140 The Super Duchess and V212VCD cab/Celestion G12M-65 Creamback Speakers
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• Marshall 1987x with 1960AX cab / Celestion G12M Greenback speakers
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The example of how the bucket brigage is better for staying out of the way due to the absence of transients is a great example of how this show helps people have words for things they intuitively get, but lack the vernacular and discrete comprehension.
Ha! It’s an ongoing process of learning for us to! We’re privileged to be able to share it with you - thanks for being with us!
excuse me.....(insert troll)....to is spelled with 2 o's. Great vid as always. learning a lot about delay currently so much appreciated in Dallas TX!
You’re doing the right thing man. Just keep digging in and see what you can learn. The only thing I would offer is this...: I would start off with a more “ basic” delay pedal. Like a Boss or something. Just because that will really give you an idea of exactly what you like and what you don’t like and it will be relatively easy to learn. Than you could decide if you want more or what. Some pedals just have a huge learning curve is what I’m trying to say. Sometimes you just want to get in there and start making music instead of memorizing a huge manual. I always used Boss as a “guidepost”. They always sound great and you will definitely know if you like delay or not. If you do, you can keep it as they are tried and true or you can go ahead and get one of the expensive “ do it all” delay pedals if you want to dive that deep. These guys have done some really great shows dedicated to just that!!
Geez, the op should get in the writers room of TPS. That was very articulate. I read a shit ton, and write comments often but find myself at a loss of words sometimes.
I don't know man... judging by that comment, you seem to have a pretty good vocabulary. There were quite a few 3 and 4 syllable words in there. That's a lot for a guitar player. 😄
I WAS JUST SEARCHING FOR, MY FIRST DELAY PEDAL! I'm a classical violinist, during Lockdown i bought a Ibanez Tele and a Tweed blues junior because I love guitar. Thanks for giving all of this to us for free!
Welcome to the club! 👍
Congratulations! Welcome :)
Thanks guys!
You are in for a treat!
I'm a violinist too! TPS is very inspiring. Without them I'd never have found the pedals I'm so happy with.
Until Mick or Dan get the timings up.
0:00 What are we doing today
4:39 Digital Delay - Boss DD-3T
9:43 Analogue Delay - Boss DM-2W
14:10 - Modulated Delay - EH Memory Man
19:15 - Multihead Delay - Space Echo RE-20
25:14 - Preamp Delay - Belle Epoch Echo Plex
32:30 - Single Head Delay - EchoRec Style - Dawner Prince Boonar
39:00 - Oil Can Delay - Catlinbread Adineko
Thank you and sorry. Playing an unsuccessful game of catch up here.
Thank you and sorry. Playing an unsuccessful game of catch up here.
@@ThatPedalShow I see what you did there with the echoing replies...
@@ThatPedalShow No apology necessary at all. The videos are always so enjoyable that I watch every minute, but I know that some people are impatient and so it was just for them to help keep the views up, rather than a pointed "ooh you forgot" thing.
(the intro was hilarious btw)
@@ThatPedalShowthat’s a pristine repeat right there
Analog 11:05, 12:48
Echo 21:34
Tape 26:14
Oil can 42:29
Stereo 47:17
Mick, whenever you talk about delay it takes me straight back to the Birmingham guitar show this year when you said something like "I never really used delay, then I met Dan and all this s$!t happened". I never used that many pedals, then started watching you guys and the rest they say is history! Great show guys, top work as always!
Ha! We’re all in the same boat it seems. :0)
These comedy intros are just too good, keep um coming guys.
I thought I opened this video in two separate tabs at the same time.
How many takes were needed, I wonder?
Been watching TPS for years now and I don't get tired of hearing y'all regurgitate the same information from videos past. Keep educating and helping musicians! HAVE SCHWANG!
One of my jobs as a roadie for my cousin's band in the mid 70's (in addition to lugging a full Marshall stack, an SVT, and a B3 with a Leslie!) was to manipulate the slider on the Echoplex at the end of "Suffragette City" so that we got "Suffragette!- gette! gette! gette!". I would then push it into oscillation. Freaky!
YES!
Man you really are Jesus aren’t you
This is why I love my Volante. It does a good job of every one of these sounds, even the oil can. Had mine for 8 months and still discovering all it can do.
It’s a brilliant thing. Mick here.
What’s your oil can setting on the volante?
Also would like to know what your Oil Can setting is on your Volante!
I have a Volante and It doesn’t do oil can. You can do “Drum” setting and turn the wear and mechanics all the way up to get it as wobbly as possible.
I’m a delay junkie. At this moment, I have a Strymon DiG and JHS Panther. Digital and analog, sound amazing and most importantly, eeeeeaaassy to dial in. As a middle aged guy, I’m unable to read instructions (or maps, or ask for directions)...so ease of use is paramount.
Hahaha!!!
DIG is pretty deep (no put intended) though, if you want to get into it, especially with the secondary functions. Love my DIG!
The Panther Cub!!! What a wonderful Delay. It certainly has some Character to it I really like it :o)
Also went for the DIG, so many options besides being able to do pristine clear
19:20 For those on a budget who want a Roland Space Echo type pedal, I recently purchased a NU-X "Tape Core Deluxe" pedal and I highly recommend it -- you can switch between all seven "tape head" combinations on the unit. It's really inexpensive, even has tap tempo and a loop function. I'm having loads of fun with it. It's certainly not as fancy as the Boss version you've got here, but for the price, it's superb. I paid $125 (Australian dollars). It costs less than $100USD and roughly 55 quid (maybe a bit more) UK. And I've been playing heaps of Shadows tunes since I bought it too. It's got that warm tapey sound.
+1 for this. I also recently picked up the NUX 2nd hand locally for £30! An absolute steal and the quality is more than good enough for my needs (or anyone else in a mix I’d suggest). A def choice vs the BOSS unit if you’re looking.
@@neilmcnaughton9289 Score!
I absolutely LOVE the oil can sound. When you guys did a delay roundup ages ago I fell for the Old Blood Noise Black Fountain after much comparison with the Adineko, not only for the sound but the graphics as well. Paired with my trusty old DD-3 which I've had since the early '90s I can get more sounds than I have time to explore.
Thanks for your exploration and inspiration.
The oil can has so much character, I’m really impressed.
I had to get the Adineko. It's certainly worthy of the hype. Want reel fun? Put their ZeroPoint flanger after it. Mind blowing.
What’s the price point?
Ry Cooder!
YESSSSS! I'm 5 minutes in and it's already one of my favorite episodes. Never enough delays!
Delay is the human experience, man created digital delay to replicate analog, we as carbon based entities, like analog delay grow ,swell and decay, but it's rich ,warm , and glorious, ,i hope everyone has a great and analog saturated weekend
That's not exactly so. I absolutely love real analog delay, but from the point of veiw of engineers of their day analog delay had shortcomings. It wasn't until after digital technology was implemented that the users felt it to be somewhat sterile and began to miss the sound of the old tech. It's a similar thing with valve amps. It's the imperfections that impart a human kind of beauty to the creation and reproduction of the music.
That oil can is chorus shimmer vibrato and delay all rolled into one. My favourite of all!
Oil this can goofball 🖕🏽😆🖕🏽
Sorry to piggy back my comments, but when you brought up problematic systems, oil cans had a huge one that really killed them! The viscosity control on the Adineko was for the electrolytic oil because it would congeal when it got cold and would even clot which was hell on the motors and whatnot.
So this episode was supposed to help me decide which delay is right for me. I used to think I knew which delay was right for me. Now I need all of them.
Job done on our part, we’d say. :0)
The best character delay is Dr. Jones Snr. from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.
It's maybe 45-50min before they give you Connery.
Blade Runner 2049 beats that as Harrison Ford doesn't turn up until about an hour & three quartrers into the film. I'm undeceided as to which is the better film.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I don't even agree with this (because the referenced film is WILDLY overrated), but I gave you a thumbs up anyway, because it was hilarious.
Good to see Boss getting a look in, sometimes seems like they are overlooked due to their ubiquity (and internet opinions on buffers)
That’s a very eloquently put point. Cheers David!
God, are people still upset about buffers? TGP has to answer for their crimes
I never got into delay until 2003 when I bought an epiphone special, I had a Marshall silver jubilee for my les Paul until then, anyway it had digital reverb and lo and behold digital delay, the second of the three settings was just long enough for me to hear and respond back to my playing , like staring into a mirror, and man , I just played with myself endlessly, I still do
Great video. The RE-20 is an underrated, totally amazing delay pedal which is 95% close to the original RE-201 sound-wise. In case you don't keep it on your board, it is a great studio tool still due to the tap tempo and ramp-up feature. We even tried to re-amp a vocal track through it with great results. A secret weapon for Josh Homme, Johnny Greenwood, Caleb Followill, Jamie Cook, Yngwie Malmsteen, Brad Paisley, Brent Hinds, Paul Weller and countless others.
The Belle Epoch Deluxe continues to steal the show every episode it appears on. 🤟
Yep, my wallet took the hit and I have one because of TPS. Totally worth it. I had the non deluxe version at first but sold it and made the switch
@@JasonClute I had the non deluxe and found the preamp too dark, is the deluxe preamp any different?
@@bobilly its been a minute since I had the non deluxe but from what I can remember, it’s not worlds apart but I think the deluxe is sweeter sounding. I think the regular version has a trim pot inside that controls the gain. Don’t think it changes brightness. The deluxe doesn’t have that but I’ve never cared. I run it like Mick where it’s on almost all the time and I use an expression to blend in delay. CB took more care in replicating the pre amp in the deluxe right down to the 22V rails the original EP had. I run it after my drives but into a modded GE7 running at 18V where I tweak some high end up before going into the front of my amp. I’ve got it in the loop of a switcher so sometimes I do put it before drives. It took me a minute to warm up to it when I made the switch. It doesn’t do as much wow and flutter as non deluxe as this video showed. But now it’s just part of my rig and don’t see letting it go 🤘🏽
I find that the Deluxe gives my dry signal a slight upper mids bump. Could be just how it interacts with the rest of my chain though.
Friday was good even before TPS was created. Now that we have TPS - even better !! 👍
My whole rig is heavily TPS inspired. Regarding Delay that means that your shows on Multihead Delays inspired my to get my hands on a Strymon Volante which is a dream pedal imo. Currently ''m running into Wet-Dry using Comp - 2x OD - Split (Humdinger) - 2x Roland Blues Cube for Aopartment level which i can switch to Fender Princeton RRI if im fine to turn up the level a fair bit.
Having such much fun and joy with it !!!
Thanks for the continuing inspiration and all the best from Frankfurt !!!
Woah, cool sounds! Our love to you and Frankfurt - how we miss visiting each year!
Haha, you're not alone. Half my board is TPS inspired Especially the Camoflange and Volante Lol. Also eyeing a VC-35 Deluxe someday,
Good God - the Belle Epoch Deluxe is such a monster. What an amazing sounding tape delay.
Shout out for the TC Electronic Flashback II. I have loaded in TonePrints for a Buffered Space Echo, TCE Space Echo, and the Binson Echorec which all sound amazing. With TonePrint and all of it's factory settings for 2290, Analog, Tape Delay, etc., that one pedal can do so much! Plus, I use it's Looper. It's a great first and maybe last delay pedal.
My favourite...after using originals for decades...sold them all Vox LT,Binson,Meazzi,Roland 301 etc. But my favourite is The Hall&Collins Signature Echo (made in Britain)(David Gilmour bought one. It emulate different devices Meazzi drum and tape echo,Vox Long Tom, Binson Echorec, Echoplex,Copycat,Roland and more. It's a very capable machine for the Hank sound, but also for Gilmour and Edge stuff...very versatile machine. Hope to see it in the show someday....it's not that expensive 499 for the UK. You've made me buying lots of pedals....I can start a lil shop ;) I love your shows , downside watching you both it result in GAS a lot!!! Thanks I wouldn't miss it for the world .....keep playing, fiddling knobs and keep the banter going! Cheer Rob
I needed this roundup. I'm still on my delay discovery journey, even though I've been watching TPS for 5 years.
Love to see the Adineko here! It's my go-to delay & the first delay to really "click" with me--something about the combination of the subtle vibrato, the springy trails, and especially the ability to blend long/short head repeats for a lot of rhythmic variation.
My first delay was a DD-3 and it helped get started but the brightness of the repeats made me hate it for years. After trying loads of analog delays and tape and others I've learned how use the DD-3. Now I can't live without it. Also, honorable mention, the DOD rubberneck is amazing. Hope you guys use it in the show someday.
Well executed guys!! Learned a new term “character delay”. I have a Catalinbread echorec and Analogman delay based on previous vids. Thanks for producing such great content
Recently bought a digitech obscura for next to nothing. Blows all my other delays away.
Obscura have a lot of character and wide range of sounds...
I just hope it keeps working. My Digitech Jamman Delay (looper) broke itself in storage...
The obscura is also my favorite. Imagine my disappointment when I shelled out for a belle epoch deluxe and liked the obscura better
My first and favorite delay
Also have an obscura. Bought it new because I hadn't heard about Reverb. The digital with bit-rate degradation and tape emulation, if not perfectly accurate, are enchanting. People always tell me how wonderful my delay tone is.
Only complaints, the reverse delay on it is fine, not great, and the analog just lacks something.... I'll probably keep the Obscura and buy a Mem Man/Mem Boy for "that" sound.
Also, if you haven't yet try running out one side of the stereo, through a modulation, and back in to the other side of stereo. Nothing like Mem Man/Boy with an effects loop for repeats, but a cool sound none the less!
Thank you! Been playing over 45 years, own a few delays and now have a better understanding!
Watching while prototyping pedals. The most fitting background entertainment I could ask for
In 78 i used an MXR ANALOG DELAY. It was a fairly large, very green pedal. Loved it
I LOVE when you guys geek out on delays!!!!!! ...... and it’s posted on my birthday!!! Best gift, aside from a new delay pedal.
Happy birthday Rob!
Shout out to the TC Flashback/Alter Ego for being a fantastic and simple do-it-all as well as a low cost entry into this world with the ability to experiment with most flavors.
Had an Alter ego X4 for a while. Quite liked it, only the modulation was just too much for my taste and couldn't be controlled on the pedal, you had to dive into the editor and save it as a toneprint. Sold it.
its victory in a box my good man.
Miss my triple delay from tc :(
Catalinbread CSIDMAN is a worthy contender for character delay as well. Completely unique idea to incorporate the way CDs would skip
And the CB Bicycle Delay is pretty hip too.
Red Panda Tensor too!
The TC Flashback has recently served as a "gateway GAS giver" in opening my eyes to the variety and usability of various types of delay, Andy Martin's EP-3 toneprint has set me off in a dangerous, and dare I say expensive, direction!
The intro hits home. I hated delay until I got a Line 6 Echo Park, the analog and tape models made me fall in love with modulated, murky and effected delays and sent me down the path I’ve traveled trying tons of great delay pedals that aren’t the DD3!
Yeah they are great but sometimes break unfortunately I'm using a Lovepedal EPH3 now but it only does one thing
Hey hey, first episode with G3!
Indeed, looks awesome. Now if only I could afford one....
The Echosex Baby (drum delay) is the one for me. Love it on my board. But always good to take a foray into other areas and see what's awesome for other people!
It is awesome and cheap as chips.
Awesome episode, and learned a lot. I'm so addicted to the swell of the Boonar I can hardly bring myself to play without it now. I run it with the tone all the down so that it further "sits in the back". I realize after watching this that by doing this I'm de-emphasizing the transient on the repeats (which can be very "peaky" on a drum echo).
I use the Seymour Duncan Vapor Trail Analog delay. I absolutely love it. The sounds produced with this engaged on my board are out of this world.
I have a funny story: last year I bought a real tape echo. Plugged it in at the end of my chain, and started playing. My body relaxed and spirit soared as I heard those first echoes: ‘yes! This is the sound I’ve been waiting for!’ That high pass shimmer with the perfect saturation and a pleasing touch of warble. Adjusted the time, hmm it’s not changing. Maybe that pot is screwy? Adjusted the feedback, no change. Then I realized that there was something wrong with it and what I’d been hearing all along was my BED, which I’d forgotten to turn off.
Hahahaha!!!!
The DD2, DD3 and so forth were designed IMO to be run through the effects loop rather than being such an in your face delay. I like it in the loop for its delay trails. I have used my DD3 since they first were introduced but have never liked it in front of my amps. It is definitely more loop-friendly.
I love my analog delays by the way. I run one through my effects loop and the other in front of the amp
Fantastic show guys!
yes chaps you have finally done the show I've been waiting for thanks again
Another classic TPS episode. The guitar world gets smarter when you do these.
I find the idea of embracing imperfection interesting, too. I have a Strymon DIG and that emulates the imperfections of early digital delays, from a time when there were big constraints in processor speed and memory, so the algorithms of the time had to work within those limitations. And it turns out those characteristics are pleasing.
This sort of thing happens a lot in photography, too.
Belle Epoch was a game changer for me. First "delay" that I ever bonded with.
Thanks as ever guys. For me, modulated delays (and reverbs too) are just the best. Spent many an hour lost in that ambient space!
As far as I can tell, this is the first episode to feature the G3 =) awesome video, guys! I myself have been using way way way more delay in these years watching you. And I love it =D thanks!
Hey gents, just a quick note on the Belle Epoch Deluxe- I sent a note to Catalinbread about mine that head a bad pot, and also mentioned that I couldn’t read the text on it. When they sent me a replacement, the green text was replaced with light grey- so much better!
Loving my Boss-DD500. I have done some deep-dive editing and tweaking, and I can get Any Delay Sound I could possibly want or need. Boss has always done Great Delays. ( however ) I do think the Analog Man ARDX20 Analog Delay is special ( just needs onboard tap tempo ) as does the Belle Epoch Deluxe.
Great show, Thanks! My present delay setup is a TRex Replicator Jr and a TC Flashback2 with a tap tempo pedal. Set up with the FB2 on dotted eights, cascading into the RJr, with the Tap tempo pedal close to the RJr tap tempo footswitch, so I can tap both at once. Getting a kind of fake multi head effect on the RJr. As the icing on the cake I have a vibrato pedal (EQD Aqueduct) further up the signal chain, so the vibrato into the delays creates a chorus feel. Love it!
I'd be the first to admit, I knew nothing about delay before TPS, despite owning and using a Vox delaylab (OK, I know) for regular gigs..... my new found knowledge of delay set-up has 100% improved the way I sound in all song based settings.
I’m the same! Mick here.
Great show guys. Coincided with me taking delivery of a NU-X tape core deluxe. I am gobsmacked at how good it is. It cost me £55 new - unbelievable. I have had a Boss DM2w for a couple of years, the nux, although different, is on a par plus it has a sound on sound looper setting. Highly recommend it.
Isn’t a character delay like where Spider-Man wasn’t in the Avengers but now he is (or was?)
HAHAHAHHAAHAH!!!
In the US, as far as I have experienced, we say Belle Epoch the same way. bell EE-pock. And, Belle Epoch has become my only delay for now. It's just absolutely perfect. Not only does it nail the Echoplex better than anything out there, it's got a Bucket Brigade Mode, DMM Chorus Mode, DMM Vibrato Mode, and a Leslie simulated delay and a sweepable resonant filter delay. It really packs a lot, and everything it can do, it does brilliantly. No afterthought slapped on features here.
Ahhhh, back in my happy place with delays! Please Dan and Mick, don't encourage me to buy any more, having already snapped up an RE201, Echosex 2 T7E, ARDX20, Echoplex, Volante, Timeline and the Ocean Machine.... More delays than the UK rail network. Keep up the great work!
Oh my goodness. Delay packing, you are,
@@ThatPedalShow Just need to figure out how I can get them all to work with my G2 now, I've run out of loops (even with 2 x Remote Loopy's ;) )
Important info Gents - thanks. Fun facts: the early Boss Digital delays were lower fi and stayed out of the way a little better. Also I believe Edge and Lanois have use dthe old Korg digital rack unit in front of the amp and seem to get their character through the lo fi digital and breakup of the amp.
Good old analog delay going into self oscillation is what absolutely hooked me on delay pedals. Still have my first one, some off brand 80’s or 90’s with the killer MN3005 BBD. It sure doesn’t boast the longest delay times but man does it sound good. You can do a lot with a max of 350ms.
I’m still amazed that the Boss RE:20 is the only dedicated Space Echo emulation. Would love to hear Howard’s take on the RE:201 with all of the multi head options and spring reverb. If he put the same care into it as the Belle Epochs and EchoRec it would be an instant classic. I’d buy two as soon as they went on sale.
The Nux Tape Core is a space echo
Adineko is the pedal I've had longest on my board. Every knob at 11 o'clock is a perfect always on sound.
Just got a TC Flashback II - it’s great, and this episode helps me the different modes. Need more coffee mugs at the TPS store!
Great show. My old AC powered Memory Man is retired because it’s noisy but it was my favorite chorus of all time. Thick! Never was much a fan of thin digital chorus. My Memory Man had a Chorus mode. The Memory Man, my MXR Flanger, and my original Morley Power Wah have hardwired AC cords. All eventually became bad noise sources. Not sure if it’s the from the AC cords or the internal transformers.
Andy Timmons Strymon Timeline with an expression pedal is just a glorious application of two separate times.
Dan, you never cease to amaze. You must be a smash at parties with the party-tricks up your sleeve. 13:21 Great show.
I absolutely love the Foxgear Echosex Baby, TPS introduced me to it back on the 'beginner pedal board' challenge and I've used it ever since!
Great show. Dan's playing is always on another level with delay. Please think about a show with one of the worlds most versatile pedals the BYOC Crown Jewel. Maybe a pedal build and talk about all the gain stages and different boost modules.
One of your best, guys - big thumbs up! I have a DD7 (love stereo delay through two amps) and an Empress Vintage Modified Superdelay. Sheer joy! Greetings from Holland - Tim.
Lads, you are getting so good at this now, very concise and informative. Great to hear them all together ... Want to here more oil can types ... Interesting...m mmm
Fantastic episode - thank you so much! Can’t wait for part #2 regarding the TimeLine.
Love my Boss RE 20 and DD 3. Also the glitch sounds you can out of the DD3 are insane! Great example of clean digital delays getting crazy
Most epic intro ever! Hahah
Enjoyed this so much. I really want an oil can style delay for so long
It’s from La Belle Époque. French for The Beautiful Time or Golden Age.
Whenever I hear about Master Ry, I’m all ears. Thanks guys for this show. Now looking forward to VCQ and the long awaited VIP guest!
The VIP is a few weeks out. We might go live next week - no questions just do a live show for the halibut. NiceB
@@ThatPedalShow I can wait for a whale.
Hey guys thanks a lot for putting it all these videos and helping me find that delay tone. I've settled with multi head tape delays. As Mick says once you start down the multi head path there's no going back. Another must for me is the record level knob for that overdrive sound. That's something that can't be beat.
I've settled with the Volante because it does drum, tape and studio grade tape which gives great higher fidelity echoes similar to digital. I was instantly sold on it when Mick did the head panning demo that blew Dan away. Awesome feature.
Two other great features are having incredibly short delays which are mechanically imposible un a physical unit and the sound on sound feature. The former allows for some great chorus sounds and the later for a the usage of a second delay whose tape length can be trapped in. Some truly amazing sounds can come out of this with really great character.
No arguments on the Volante. It’s superb!
I know you guys have played the BED a lot on the show but today it's effect on the top end was really put in stark relief.
It certainly darkens things off.
I’ve wondered why some delays have a “warped” or wavy (sea sick) type sound. Now I know it’s undoubtedly in the “oil can” category - and I know which type to avoid because that’s definitely not for me. Clean and “spacey” (RE-20, Echopark, DD-3) is music to my ears (pun intended of course). Thanks again, chaps, for the ongoing pedal education 👍 🍺
Nothing more comforting that a warm night in with TPS❤️
You guys are a couple of characters on delay - great episode and really helpful to think about all the different types of delays and what they mean.
I restarted this thinking the audio was broken. Nicely done guys!
1-0 TPS!
Good lord. I know I'm late to the party on this episode, but that Supro through the oilcan delay has rewired my brain in strange and eldritch ways. I mean, good LORD.
I was hoping you'd have the new Old Blood Noise Black Fountain v3 oil can type. I'd like to know what you both think, I can't wait to get one!
We’ve featured it before I believe. Really cool - we mention it in the oil can bit
Dan you so totally nailed that David Gilmour sound with the Boonar... wow.
I never understood why someone would use slap delay. I’ve always been more of a reverb guy. But experimented with my Echoplex this weekend and now I can’t live without slap back as part of my core tone. Thanks TPS for continuing to inspire to try new things.
Great show gents. I'd love to see more of this round up style with other types of pedals.
Mick, folks in the States would pronounce belle and epoch as you do. However, when you say them together, they don't sound like two distinct words to me, and my American ear definitely hears "belly pock". I think that if I had never seen an episode of TPS and was asked to pronounce the name of the pedal, I would put a very deliberate pause between the belle and the epoch precisely so that this doesn't happen.
I keep going back and playing Dan's "Doom Loop Jam" from the "One Colour Pedal Board Challenge"! It was sick!!! \m/
Hahaha! Made us feel very sick indeed 😂
Great Episode! I got the Chase Bliss TR RKM and Boonar on my board. I’m always excited when Mick pulls out the Supro. Extra Badass Riffs & Licks incoming
I recently dove into pedals, and I am loving my TC Electronics Gauss Tape Echo. Never liked delay before this, but this sounds fantastic w/ my JML guitars, Small Clone, RAT, and JHS 3 Series OD through my Katana Artist pretending to be a JC120.
After watching this video (several times :D ) I got a major hankering for a delay pedal. I've just picked up a brilliant Black Friday deal on a Memory Man Deluxe, and it's just beautiful! Already written my first new song using it, I love when a sound just brings out inspiration immediately! Thank you for the demonstration and explanation!
COOL! The fact it’s helped inspire a song is just awesome. Nice one David!
You've certainly given me food for thought about which type of delay I'd want for different circumstances and dfferent guitars.
Character delays can be found Digital delays too. Two big examples are Lexicon PCM 42 or a Roland SDE 3000. Let’s not forget the KORG SDD 3000 (I don’t like it personally). Great show guys! My 72 EP3 and PCM 42 have filled the delays spots for me.
That’s a good shout!
Or just the humble PT1229 chip and how its probably closer to analogue in sound than a lot of DSP pedals which are different beasts. The DD-2 is just one, but it has some warmth to it, isn't super-clean and sort of behaves a bit like analogue, except much clearer as you'd expect yet nowhere near sterile. Its lofi, 12bit.. But DSP style, thru something programmed, unless with complex emulation is a very exact replicator. I had an old soviet LM1229 and that was more screwed up and dirty than most analogue delays. Crazy as hell oscillation. Ive had tag-on delays in multifx that have been just not only exactly replicating but somehow making the repeats tone-less...
For that i dont think "digital" is really an honest categorisation. For another point its also that all these tape emulators are actually digital. And another- experimental delays tend to be such as granular, reverse and pitch delays, maybe ones on the edge of digital reverb too
Thank you, thank you, thank you! This is the session I have been waiting for. Not happy with the delay pedal I currently have but had no idea which to get instead... I like the Echorec Chris Buck had on his board.
Lately, I've been using a Carbon Copy for slapback and the Dunlop EP-3 for character with a Catalinbread Echorec for DG's tone. I also have the Dunlop Echoplex preamp. It's my always on pedal. Try running the preamp just by itself into your Deluxe Reverb for a little extra hair. I think you'll like it
Thanks, guys. I just bought Echorec because of what I've learned from you. I'm enjoying it so much
I love my Adineko! It does all the delay I need from short slap, warm repeats with subtle modulation all the way to deep space exploration
I have a Belle Epoch Delay on the way, hoping it works well in front of an amp. I just love how Dan just gets lost, almost overwhelmed by excellent sounding tones sometimes ~26:30. Priceless!
This is so helpful. Exactly what I'm working on right now. Thank you
Wow, great episode. I'm a delay junkie but was always digital til a few years back when I started getting into analog, not went down the tape route yet.