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Does Jeff Luke or Zack have sermons on how to find a church. Would love to attend apologia but I'm in flordia and that would one very long drive every sunday
The LORD bless that evangelist. The confusion is evident though and a lot of men struggle with this. The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds. The Christian man has to contend on multiple fronts, but they can be broadly categorised into two section's: Spiritual. Physical. Spiritual is what most get right, this is our primary call and primary field of battle that we are commanded to become proficient in. Physical comes down quite simply, as self defence. Defending your family or another from unjust/evil acts. And yes, this can involve violence. Thats the job of a man, to lay down his life for his wife and his family. Self sacrifice as a man is multifaceted, but the core theme through it all is that you are prepared to lay down your life for your wife and your family against any adversary from the least severe (job etc.) to the worst (physical confrontation with man/beast). Remember, do not fear those who can only kill the body. But fear God who can destroy both body and soul in hell. May the LORD help us all, in Jesus name. Amen. ✝️🙏🏻
Yes. I think we should train to be a warrior. But pray every day that we only have to train and never have to use it. Just like fire extinguisher you have in the home. You have it but pray you never have to use it.
Yeah, but you don't go around wearing fire extinguisher hats and fire extinguisher gear or constantly talk about fires. You train on how to use it quietly and don't make a big deal about it and use it when you need to.
@filmingNgaming pray that we never have to use it? What does that even mean? the whole point of us being instructed to train for godliness is to use it. every aspect of the Christian life is a fight, how do we not employ what God gives us to use? if there's not an internal struggle going on, are we really engaged or are we letting the world, the flesh and the devil run us into the ground?
I absolutely believe in militant defense! Depending on how aggressive the unbeliever is, and whoever is around at that time, you must stand firm! And sometimes the way that looks and appears Christians will often criticize it as being too aggressive and it’s not if it were a real war, you cannot be passive! Aggression sometimes is unpleasant to look at, aggression is not equal to disrespect and tearing down someone’s character, but you are to completely obliterate the lies of Satan!! With scriptural ammunition!!
For those who don't know (But from those who were of high reputation (what they were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality)), the guest featured in this video was a DEVGRU (SEAL Team 6) operator.
Warrior Poet Society has a great take on the "warrior" aspect of Christianity and our duty as Christians, Lovers of our fellow man, being Warriors, and carrying the wisdom of The Word.
That's Old Covenant; aren't you aware? 17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Romans 12:17-21
@@lozferris1719 18 IF IT BE POSSIBLE. That means that sometimes it may not be possible. 19 GIVE A PLACE TO WRATH. That means there is a time and a place to fight. Jesus kicked over tables and chased the money lenders from a synagogue while using a whip, Jesus is my God, also the God of the old testament who made it rain fire and brimstone on our enemies. Yes we should turn the other cheek but just like the verse you quote says, ''If it be possible''.
@@FDCLDN "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord. We are commanded not to avenge ourselves. I think you need to read more carefully. You are manipulating the scripture, trying to make it fit into your ungodly worldview.
@@lozferris1719 Read the last part of my reply, i explained there. No, you are just quoting single verses and disregarding the rest and not reading deeper into what it says, the verses you quoted are clear and prove my point but now you are claiming i perverting them. Explain how i perverted them when i added nothing?
As men who are believer and follower of Christ should gain wisdom and understanding, strength and courage from the Lord and not from our own. We are the modern Gideons of the Bible and we stand to protect our loved ones and we might be called for duty for our own country as the Lord instructs us to obey our government for the Lord. “It's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in war”. Although, Gideon was just a farmer but God made him a warrior for the Lord's battle. Prayers from the Nevada Desert.
Romans 16:17-18 “I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.” Titus 3:9: “avoid foolish debates, … they are unprofitable and worthless.” Previously, Paul cautioned Titus about rebellious people who were “full of empty talk and deception” (Titus 1:10).
We DO need to have a warrior mindset against sin, satan and those who wish to lead Christians astray, those who wish to harm your loved ones. The Bible tells us to be a provider for our families, one of the things a husband and a father provides is protection for his family, against spiritual evil, physical evil.
“As the time approached for him to be taken up to heaven, Jesus resolutely set out for Jerusalem. And he sent messengers on ahead, who went into a Samaritan village to get things ready for him; but the people there did not welcome him, because he was heading for Jerusalem. When the disciples James and John saw this, they asked, “Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven to destroy them?” But Jesus turned and rebuked them.” None of us are ignorant of the growing militancy, nationalism and “macho-ism” in American christendom. To imagine going from arming up, training for violence, collaborating with the political machinations to achieve legislative and judicial power to the 180 degree “I’ll drop my arms if the state wants to jail me for my faith”… I hope so, but I’m not seeing Christian’s known for their love, laying down their lives being persecuted- I’ve seen religiosity successfully courting and courted by political power ascendant while projecting its own victim complex as has happened again and again since Christ ascended. Often (unfortunately) prior to some history’s most notable terrors.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, avoiding hazards is not fear but wisdom. In Afghanistan and in any armed conflict we are faced with the possibility of certain death everyday, for us, intelligence gathering of enemy positions and capabilities and making risk assessments is not out of fear but out of preservation of life. Survival is never about the fear of death but rather the will to live. For if we are not prepared when we could have taken steps before to survive but failed, we are thus committing ourselves to death which is another form of suicide.
I think you have to be all things to everyone. It depends on what demeanour the person you are witnessing to is displaying. Sometimes you might be a little assertive. Other times a smiling face is king. I think he might be talking about your pastor when he was on the street, and the female cop came up and told him to desist. It soon became apparent she hadn’t done her homework. Then the guy was calling out to her and saying he wasn’t going to stop because he had the authorisation in his hand. I don’t think the guy did anything wrong, personally. It was okay for me to see Christian pastor not getting flogged. But maybe people expect pastors to be meek and mild. I don’t know. My father was a minister and he was a mechanic before that. I think all the guys liked him because he wasn’t a pushover.
Are Christians permitted to pray imprecatory prayers that call for God to destroy the wicked and break tyrants and drive them to destruction like the prophets in the OT did? I keep getting tone police lectures when i pray like that. We are told by Scripture to pray for our enemies, and praying that God destroys abusive tyrants is still praying for them.
I have to agree with the letter. I think these guys are taking the “warrior” language used in the Bible too literally in their Christian journey because it’s leading to a faith that is constantly terrified of the idea of persecution. There’s no peace in that.
17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Romans 12:17-21
17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Romans 12:17-21
@@lancedooley7558 The scripture I quoted isn't referencing arrest. How did you come to that conclusion? It's talking about evil, not arrest. What does the command, "do not avenge yourselves" mean to you? Wouldn't self defence be considered as avenging yourself?
I love my neighbor. I hate the sin. I will defend those who cannot. Jesus said to buy a sword. There is a reason for that. For almost 1500 years the enemy has been building an army. Islam is that army
@@kbschulze Luke 22:36 “Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.”
Id say a part of the point where you're not donning the warrior spirit when you're going to the Abortion mill is still wrong. You must stand fast to the enemy in the spiritual battle. Staying firm in love as you get yelled at or worse and using the word as your "weapon." The concept of Ephesians 6 and the whole armor of God is still applying I think.
17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Romans 12:17-21
17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Romans 12:17-21
17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Romans 12:17-21
@@lozferris1719 The proper use of self-defense has to do with wisdom, understanding, and tact. In Luke 22:36, Jesus tells His remaining disciples, “If you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.” Jesus knew that now was the time when His followers would be threatened, and He upheld their right to self-defense. Just a short time later, Jesus is arrested, and Peter takes a sword and cuts off someone’s ear. Jesus rebukes Peter for that act (verses 49-51). Why? In his zeal to defend the Lord, Peter was standing in the way of God’s will. Jesus had told His disciples multiple times that He must be arrested, put on trial, and die (e.g., Matthew 17:22-23). In other words, Peter acted unwisely in that situation. We must have wisdom regarding when to fight and when not to. Exodus 22 gives some clues about God’s attitude toward self-defense: “If a thief is caught breaking in at night and is struck a fatal blow, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed; but if it happens after sunrise, the defender is guilty of bloodshed” (Exodus 22:2-3). Two basic principles taught in this text are the right to own private property and the right to defend that property. The full exercise of the right to self-defense, however, depended on the situation. No one should be too quick to use deadly force against another, even someone who means to do him harm. If someone was set upon by a thief in the middle of the night and, in the confusion of the moment the would-be thief was killed, the Law did not charge the homeowner with murder. But, if the thief was caught in the house during the day, when the homeowner was unlikely to be awoken from sleep, then the Law forbade the killing of the thief. Essentially, the Law said that homeowners shouldn’t be quick to kill or attack thieves in their home. Both situations could be considered self-defense, but deadly force was expected to be a last resort, used only in the event of a panicked “surprise attack” scenario where the homeowner is likely to be confused and disoriented. In the case of a nighttime attack, the Law granted the homeowner the benefit of the doubt that, apart from the darkness and confusion of the attack, he would not intentionally use lethal force against a thief. Even in the case of self-defense against a thief, a godly person was expected to try to restrain the assailant rather than immediately resort to killing him. Paul engaged in self-defense on occasion, although non-violently. When he was about to be flogged by the Romans in Jerusalem, Paul quietly informed the centurion with the scourge that he, Paul, was a Roman citizen. The authorities were immediately alarmed and began to treat Paul differently, knowing they had violated Roman law by even putting him in chains. Paul had used a similar defense in Philippi-after he was flogged-in order to secure an official apology from those who had violated his rights (Acts 16:37-39). The Bible never forbids self-defense, and believers are allowed to defend themselves and their families. But the fact that we are permitted to defend ourselves does not necessarily mean we must do so in every situation. Knowing God’s heart through reading His Word and relying on “the wisdom that comes from heaven” (James 3:17) will help us know how to best respond in situations that might call for self-defense
17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have[a] regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Romans 12:17-21
So self-defense is evil? If someone is trying to assault me, I shouldn't fight back to protect myself? If someone is trying to kidnap my child, I shouldn't use a concealed weapon to stop them? Are you applying this to all situations or just street preaching?
@@melissabrown3976 Did Jesus command us to love our enemy? Is fighting them, loving them? Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. Therefore “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Romans 12:17-21 NKJV
1 Corinthians 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. I don’t think the evangelist was meaning defending yourself. He was talking about street preaching. I think his point was missed.
God commands everyone everywhere to repent. He is talking to those “dead” people you believe exist. Acts 17:30 but that also means in psalms 37:12-13 God laughs at the wicked because He knows their end… according to Calvinist logic. God created a dead man just to laugh at him for going to hell…cmon now.
Roman's Ch.1:20NIV"since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." If any wrong that originated within JEHOVAH'S the creation could not be addressed by what is right with JEHOVAH'S Creation would that not constitute a fail for JEHOVAH as creator? The Logos must be a member of the creation to serve as a rebuttal to the enemy's slander. 1Corinthians ch.15:21NIV"For since death came through a MAN(not Godman), the resurrection of the dead comes also through a MAN(not Godman)" Man's failure was not the fault of man's maker. As demonstrated by the righteousness of the second Adam.
This is a false dichotomy that has been said by multiple public figures in Christianity. Loving Christ and loving like Christ requires us to be soldiers in the war of Christianity. We are supposed to fight with our flesh and kill our sin. We are supposed to contend for the truth of scripture. If you are a believer then you are a soldier/warrior. If you are not a soldier carrying out the marching orders that God has called you to, and if you are not a warrior engaged in the slaying of your sinful flesh every day, then please explain to me how you are a Christian or at least an obedient, holy Christian?
@@FDCLDN17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Romans 12:17-21
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Can you tell me one person in the Bible who was predestined to hell?
Does Jeff Luke or Zack have sermons on how to find a church. Would love to attend apologia but I'm in flordia and that would one very long drive every sunday
Please stop using Jesus as anything related to your commercial nonsense! It’s embarrassing as a Christian and depressing as a human
The LORD bless that evangelist. The confusion is evident though and a lot of men struggle with this. The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds.
The Christian man has to contend on multiple fronts, but they can be broadly categorised into two section's:
Spiritual.
Physical.
Spiritual is what most get right, this is our primary call and primary field of battle that we are commanded to become proficient in.
Physical comes down quite simply, as self defence. Defending your family or another from unjust/evil acts. And yes, this can involve violence. Thats the job of a man, to lay down his life for his wife and his family.
Self sacrifice as a man is multifaceted, but the core theme through it all is that you are prepared to lay down your life for your wife and your family against any adversary from the least severe (job etc.) to the worst (physical confrontation with man/beast).
Remember, do not fear those who can only kill the body. But fear God who can destroy both body and soul in hell.
May the LORD help us all, in Jesus name. Amen. ✝️🙏🏻
I agree with you bro
Yes. I think we should train to be a warrior. But pray every day that we only have to train and never have to use it. Just like fire extinguisher you have in the home. You have it but pray you never have to use it.
Yeah, but you don't go around wearing fire extinguisher hats and fire extinguisher gear or constantly talk about fires. You train on how to use it quietly and don't make a big deal about it and use it when you need to.
@@derrickcarsonWhy shouldn't we talk about it?
@filmingNgaming pray that we never have to use it? What does that even mean? the whole point of us being instructed to train for godliness is to use it. every aspect of the Christian life is a fight, how do we not employ what God gives us to use? if there's not an internal struggle going on, are we really engaged or are we letting the world, the flesh and the devil run us into the ground?
The Bible instructs us to put on the armor of God. Only warriors put on armor.
Do you know what the full armor of God is?
@@kbschulzecan’t just agree… gotta be that person. Tell us bible scholar! 🤦🏼♂️
*Spiritual* armor, it has to be noted.
It's in Ephesians 6:11, after which, from verse 14, he explains what the armour is....
I absolutely believe in militant defense! Depending on how aggressive the unbeliever is, and whoever is around at that time, you must stand firm! And sometimes the way that looks and appears Christians will often criticize it as being too aggressive and it’s not if it were a real war, you cannot be passive! Aggression sometimes is unpleasant to look at, aggression is not equal to disrespect and tearing down someone’s character, but you are to completely obliterate the lies of Satan!! With scriptural ammunition!!
For those who don't know (But from those who were of high reputation (what they were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality)), the guest featured in this video was a DEVGRU (SEAL Team 6) operator.
Warrior Poet Society has a great take on the "warrior" aspect of Christianity and our duty as Christians, Lovers of our fellow man, being Warriors, and carrying the wisdom of The Word.
Ecclesiastes 3:8
“A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.”
That's Old Covenant; aren't you aware?
17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore
“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
If he is thirsty, give him a drink;
For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.”
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Romans 12:17-21
@@lozferris1719
18 IF IT BE POSSIBLE. That means that sometimes it may not be possible.
19 GIVE A PLACE TO WRATH.
That means there is a time and a place to fight.
Jesus kicked over tables and chased the money lenders from a synagogue while using a whip, Jesus is my God, also the God of the old testament who made it rain fire and brimstone on our enemies.
Yes we should turn the other cheek but just like the verse you quote says, ''If it be possible''.
@@FDCLDN What about the command to love our enemy and turn the other cheek?
You are perverting the scripture.
@@FDCLDN "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord.
We are commanded not to avenge ourselves.
I think you need to read more carefully. You are manipulating the scripture, trying to make it fit into your ungodly worldview.
@@lozferris1719 Read the last part of my reply, i explained there.
No, you are just quoting single verses and disregarding the rest and not reading deeper into what it says, the verses you quoted are clear and prove my point but now you are claiming i perverting them.
Explain how i perverted them when i added nothing?
As men who are believer and follower of Christ should gain wisdom and understanding, strength and courage from the Lord and not from our own. We are the modern Gideons of the Bible and we stand to protect our loved ones and we might be called for duty for our own country as the Lord instructs us to obey our government for the Lord. “It's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in war”. Although, Gideon was just a farmer but God made him a warrior for the Lord's battle. Prayers from the Nevada Desert.
Romans 16:17-18 “I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.”
Titus 3:9: “avoid foolish debates, … they are unprofitable and worthless.” Previously, Paul cautioned Titus about rebellious people who were “full of empty talk and deception” (Titus 1:10).
PUT ON THE ARMOR OF GOD. It is written
Every lost person is a battlefield, not an enemy.
How can you save your enemy when your blood is on the end of their sword?
We DO need to have a warrior mindset against sin, satan and those who wish to lead Christians astray, those who wish to harm your loved ones. The Bible tells us to be a provider for our families, one of the things a husband and a father provides is protection for his family, against spiritual evil, physical evil.
“As the time approached for him to be taken up to heaven, Jesus resolutely set out for Jerusalem. And he sent messengers on ahead, who went into a Samaritan village to get things ready for him; but the people there did not welcome him, because he was heading for Jerusalem. When the disciples James and John saw this, they asked, “Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven to destroy them?” But Jesus turned and rebuked them.”
None of us are ignorant of the growing militancy, nationalism and “macho-ism” in American christendom. To imagine going from arming up, training for violence, collaborating with the political machinations to achieve legislative and judicial power to the 180 degree “I’ll drop my arms if the state wants to jail me for my faith”… I hope so, but I’m not seeing Christian’s known for their love, laying down their lives being persecuted- I’ve seen religiosity successfully courting and courted by political power ascendant while projecting its own victim complex as has happened again and again since Christ ascended. Often (unfortunately) prior to some history’s most notable terrors.
Very well put.
Sounds like he’s talking about Warrior Poet. God bless these brothers though. 🙏🏽
Yes.
Gentlemen, bringing the ego into submission, allows understand to where lies, true vigilance. All to His glory, not mine.
Apologia should do a video on the not-so-friendly fire coming from Moscow, Idaho. Would that fall under the Cultish label?
Absolutely
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, avoiding hazards is not fear but wisdom. In Afghanistan and in any armed conflict we are faced with the possibility of certain death everyday, for us, intelligence gathering of enemy positions and capabilities and making risk assessments is not out of fear but out of preservation of life. Survival is never about the fear of death but rather the will to live. For if we are not prepared when we could have taken steps before to survive but failed, we are thus committing ourselves to death which is another form of suicide.
I think you have to be all things to everyone. It depends on what demeanour the person you are witnessing to is displaying. Sometimes you might be a little assertive. Other times a smiling face is king. I think he might be talking about your pastor when he was on the street, and the female cop came up and told him to desist. It soon became apparent she hadn’t done her homework. Then the guy was calling out to her and saying he wasn’t going to stop because he had the authorisation in his hand. I don’t think the guy did anything wrong, personally. It was okay for me to see Christian pastor not getting flogged. But maybe people expect pastors to be meek and mild. I don’t know. My father was a minister and he was a mechanic before that. I think all the guys liked him because he wasn’t a pushover.
Are Christians permitted to pray imprecatory prayers that call for God to destroy the wicked and break tyrants and drive them to destruction like the prophets in the OT did? I keep getting tone police lectures when i pray like that. We are told by Scripture to pray for our enemies, and praying that God destroys abusive tyrants is still praying for them.
I have to agree with the letter. I think these guys are taking the “warrior” language used in the Bible too literally in their Christian journey because it’s leading to a faith that is constantly terrified of the idea of persecution. There’s no peace in that.
17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore
“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
If he is thirsty, give him a drink;
For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.”
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Romans 12:17-21
These guys have started their own cult.
Yep. We are modern day Crusaders. Any physical attacks will be destroyed. Any arrests in Jesus will be dealt with on another level.
17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore
“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
If he is thirsty, give him a drink;
For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.”
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Romans 12:17-21
@@lozferris1719 Im referring to self defense which is justified. Not talking about if we are arrested preaching Jesus.
@@lancedooley7558 The scripture I quoted isn't referencing arrest. How did you come to that conclusion?
It's talking about evil, not arrest.
What does the command, "do not avenge yourselves" mean to you?
Wouldn't self defence be considered as avenging yourself?
A Christian’s job is to proclaim the Kingdom of God and obey the commands of their King.
What are your thoughts on what’s happening in Isreal in the “postmillennial” world???
I love my neighbor. I hate the sin. I will defend those who cannot. Jesus said to buy a sword. There is a reason for that. For almost 1500 years the enemy has been building an army. Islam is that army
Where does Jesus tell us to purchase a sword?
@@kbschulze Luke 22:36
“Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.”
Right. Otherwise why would God give us suit of Armour? and a SWORD?
Id say a part of the point where you're not donning the warrior spirit when you're going to the Abortion mill is still wrong. You must stand fast to the enemy in the spiritual battle. Staying firm in love as you get yelled at or worse and using the word as your "weapon."
The concept of Ephesians 6 and the whole armor of God is still applying I think.
Question was not answered for me.
17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore
“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
If he is thirsty, give him a drink;
For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.”
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Romans 12:17-21
Yes it's my belief that Christian should train in Aikido judo and B.J.J so we can defend ourselves with being vengeful 😅
Revelation 21:8 Cowards will NOT inherit the kingdom of heaven.
So don’t be afraid to speak the truth
17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore
“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
If he is thirsty, give him a drink;
For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.”
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Romans 12:17-21
TRUTH!!!
Is self defense Godly?
Yes absolutely.
17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore
“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
If he is thirsty, give him a drink;
For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.”
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Romans 12:17-21
@@Roma-ruskWhere did you come up with that?
@@lozferris1719 The proper use of self-defense has to do with wisdom, understanding, and tact. In Luke 22:36, Jesus tells His remaining disciples, “If you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.” Jesus knew that now was the time when His followers would be threatened, and He upheld their right to self-defense. Just a short time later, Jesus is arrested, and Peter takes a sword and cuts off someone’s ear. Jesus rebukes Peter for that act (verses 49-51). Why? In his zeal to defend the Lord, Peter was standing in the way of God’s will. Jesus had told His disciples multiple times that He must be arrested, put on trial, and die (e.g., Matthew 17:22-23). In other words, Peter acted unwisely in that situation. We must have wisdom regarding when to fight and when not to.
Exodus 22 gives some clues about God’s attitude toward self-defense: “If a thief is caught breaking in at night and is struck a fatal blow, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed; but if it happens after sunrise, the defender is guilty of bloodshed” (Exodus 22:2-3). Two basic principles taught in this text are the right to own private property and the right to defend that property. The full exercise of the right to self-defense, however, depended on the situation. No one should be too quick to use deadly force against another, even someone who means to do him harm. If someone was set upon by a thief in the middle of the night and, in the confusion of the moment the would-be thief was killed, the Law did not charge the homeowner with murder. But, if the thief was caught in the house during the day, when the homeowner was unlikely to be awoken from sleep, then the Law forbade the killing of the thief. Essentially, the Law said that homeowners shouldn’t be quick to kill or attack thieves in their home. Both situations could be considered self-defense, but deadly force was expected to be a last resort, used only in the event of a panicked “surprise attack” scenario where the homeowner is likely to be confused and disoriented. In the case of a nighttime attack, the Law granted the homeowner the benefit of the doubt that, apart from the darkness and confusion of the attack, he would not intentionally use lethal force against a thief. Even in the case of self-defense against a thief, a godly person was expected to try to restrain the assailant rather than immediately resort to killing him.
Paul engaged in self-defense on occasion, although non-violently. When he was about to be flogged by the Romans in Jerusalem, Paul quietly informed the centurion with the scourge that he, Paul, was a Roman citizen. The authorities were immediately alarmed and began to treat Paul differently, knowing they had violated Roman law by even putting him in chains. Paul had used a similar defense in Philippi-after he was flogged-in order to secure an official apology from those who had violated his rights (Acts 16:37-39).
The Bible never forbids self-defense, and believers are allowed to defend themselves and their families. But the fact that we are permitted to defend ourselves does not necessarily mean we must do so in every situation. Knowing God’s heart through reading His Word and relying on “the wisdom that comes from heaven” (James 3:17) will help us know how to best respond in situations that might call for self-defense
17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have[a] regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore
“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
If he is thirsty, give him a drink;
For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.”
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Romans 12:17-21
So self-defense is evil? If someone is trying to assault me, I shouldn't fight back to protect myself? If someone is trying to kidnap my child, I shouldn't use a concealed weapon to stop them? Are you applying this to all situations or just street preaching?
@@melissabrown3976 Did Jesus command us to love our enemy? Is fighting them, loving them?
Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. Therefore “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Romans 12:17-21 NKJV
1 Corinthians 2:16
For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
I don’t think the evangelist was meaning defending yourself. He was talking about street preaching. I think his point was missed.
Why does God command us to do something if we don’t get a chance to respond?
What?
@@TheHeartOfTheHour1Why do Calvinist believe we can’t respond to Gods commands?
@lainie4344 no one can apart from divine grace. Our entire person is dead in trespasses and sins. How does a dead man respond to anything?
@@caseycockerham3925exactly why does God command dead people to do things? That’s either cruel or they aren’t actually dead.
God commands everyone everywhere to repent. He is talking to those “dead” people you believe exist. Acts 17:30 but that also means in psalms 37:12-13 God laughs at the wicked because He knows their end… according to Calvinist logic. God created a dead man just to laugh at him for going to hell…cmon now.
What will be the warrior’s mindset when the Antichrist is on the earth?
Many antichrists have come. What is your answer to your question? The inquisitors believed they were slaying anti-christ as much as anything.
Thats beta mindset
Roman's Ch.1:20NIV"since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse."
If any wrong that originated within JEHOVAH'S the creation could not be addressed by what is right with JEHOVAH'S Creation would that not constitute a fail for JEHOVAH as creator?
The Logos must be a member of the creation to serve as a rebuttal to the enemy's slander.
1Corinthians ch.15:21NIV"For since death came through a MAN(not Godman), the resurrection of the dead comes also through a MAN(not Godman)"
Man's failure was not the fault of man's maker. As demonstrated by the righteousness of the second Adam.
This did not bring me clarity, still find this confusing.
1 Duh. 1
nope
CONSIDER Calvinist claim predestination to heaven and hell, but then preach conversion. can you say contradictory?
This is a false dichotomy that has been said by multiple public figures in Christianity. Loving Christ and loving like Christ requires us to be soldiers in the war of Christianity. We are supposed to fight with our flesh and kill our sin. We are supposed to contend for the truth of scripture. If you are a believer then you are a soldier/warrior. If you are not a soldier carrying out the marching orders that God has called you to, and if you are not a warrior engaged in the slaying of your sinful flesh every day, then please explain to me how you are a Christian or at least an obedient, holy Christian?
Sorry.. but no.
Yes we can, the Bible says so.
@@FDCLDN17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore
“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
If he is thirsty, give him a drink;
For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.”
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Romans 12:17-21
😑 Wrong again.
Check yourself. You aren’t helpful to anyone in addiction anymore. You are a prideful TH-cam creator. Stop using Jesus ‘ name.
Yes