Understanding the Toyota RAV4 Hybrid

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  • See the amazing hybrid transaxle used in the 2019 - 2022 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid. Learn how this incredible transaxle functions in all nine modes of operation to help its sophisticated 2.5L engine deliver almost 40% brake thermal efficiency (BTE) for maximum fuel economy. This transaxle is also used in the 2018 and above Camry Hybrid, Avalon Hybrid, Lexus ES300h hybrid, and 2021 Venza Hybrid.
    Corrections and Additions:
    1. Addition: In EV mode, sling lubrication from gear movement is provided to drip channels that feed bearings, gears, and stator cooling. The RAV4 Prime uses an external electric oil pump for use in EV mode.
    2. The 2021 Toyota Venza Hybrid also uses the P710 transaxle.
    3. Correction: At 27 minutes: In overdrive with MG1 spinning backward, the ICE RPM should be less than when it is in direct drive. I incorrectly said the ICE RPM was higher.
    4. Correction: The BTE chart at 23:06 is the wrong one for this ICE, it is for the non-hybrid ICE variant known as A25A-FKS (The related experiment is done by EPA, which provides all the details), while the engine for the Hybrid RAV4 is A25B-FKS with a slightly higher peak efficiency to 41%. The BTE plot of A25B is different from the A25A, with lower maximum torque, and a much larger high-efficiency area (it reaches 38% efficiency at 80 Nm until 2500 RPM), and the peak efficiency point/area is shifted to the left/downside. Thank you to viewer rt te for catching my error.
    EPA Report: www.epa.gov/sites/production/...
    TIMELINE:
    0:00 Start
    0:09 Introduction
    0:21 Model and vehicle usage
    1:11 2.5L High-Efficiency Internal Combustion Engine (ICE)
    1:35 The P710 transmission is used to keep ICE in its optimum RPM range
    1:48 See the internal parts and functions of the P710 transaxle
    2:00 Motor/Generator 2
    2:40 Counter-driven gear and pinion gear
    3:24 Final drive ring gear and differential
    4:40 Overall gear ratio MG2 to Tires
    6:00 MG2 Power, Torque, and RPM Ratings
    7:02 MG2 motor and generator operation
    8:00 MUST SEE Two Torque Paths to drive the vehicle
    8:19 MG1 and the Power Split Device planetary gear set
    8:50 Planetary gear set components
    10:30 Ring gear connects to counter drive gear
    11:25 Planet carrier connected to the ICE crankshaft
    11:45 Sun gear connects to the MG1 rotor
    12:01 Oil pump drive shaft
    13:10 MG1 rotates the crankshaft to allow the ICE to start
    13:40 Parking gear
    14:23 MG1 has three functions
    17:00 Underdrive, direct drive, and overdrive
    18:00 The nine modes of operation of the electronic continuously variable transmission (eCVT)
    18:46 Mode 1 "Ready" on with the vehicle stopped
    19:28 Mode 2 Charging the high voltage (HV) battery with the vehicle stopped
    20:39 Mode 3 Starting off and low-speed cruising on electric power only (EV Mode)
    21:36 Mode 4 Starting off and low-speed cruising with a low SOC
    22:25 Mode 5 Constant speed cruising (eCVT) operation
    23:00 MUST SEE See the ICE RPM, power, and torque ranges for maximum ICE brake thermal efficiency (BTE)
    25:17 Relationship between ICE and MG1 RPM to stay in the optimal ICE efficiency range while driving at 104 km/h (65 mph)
    25:52 Underdrive example
    26:35 Direct drive example at 1650 ICE RPM
    27:00 Overdrive example MG1 stops rotating
    28:08 MG1 rotates backward for additional overdrive or power generation
    29:19 MG1 Power, Torque, and RPM Ratings
    29:45 Mode 6 Constant speed cruising (eCVT) operation with low SOC
    30:39 Mode 7 Full Throttle Acceleration
    31:27 Mode 8 Deceleration and regenerative braking
    32:22 Mode 9 Reverse
    32:38 MUST SEE Rotor differences between P610, P710, and P810 transaxles
    33:24 MUST SEE RAV4 Prime P810 MG2 rotor difference (51% more power and ~36.5mm thicker)
    34:33 Motor Stators, stator cooling, and stator temperature
    36:00 Transmission oil pump (ICE driven)
    36:45 Motor resolvers (position, speed, and direction sensors)
    37:17 Three-phase cable size differences between P710 and P610 transmissions/inverters
    38:13 The RAV4 Q610 rear electric motor
    ABOUT US:
    Weber State University (WSU) Davis Campus - Automotive Technology Department - Advanced Vehicles Lab. A technical description and demonstration of the Toyota P710 hybrid transaxle. We teach current vehicle technologies to our automotive students at Weber State University and online. For more information visit: www.weber.edu/automotive
    This video was created and edited by Professor John D. Kelly at WSU. For a full biography, see www.weber.edu/automotive/J_Kel...
    Visit my other youtube channel / vibratesoftware to see the amazing NVH app for vibration diagnosis!
    ADDITIONAL TRAINING FOR YOU
    Join us for hybrid and electric vehicle training with two online courses and in a 5-day on-campus boot camp with Professor John D. Kelly. See www.weber.edu/evtraining
    DONATE TO OUR DEPARTMENT
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  • @joeroggenbeck8444
    @joeroggenbeck8444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1180

    As a retired GM engineer of 33 years with exhaustive technical training in advanced powertrain systems, I just witnessed the most perfect class in hybrid function using actual components. Your lecture was clear and concise without being overly repetitive. The components were labelled and described well without too much added jargon that quickly overwhelms newer students. Adding them in sequential order was very streamlined and efficient. The information was informative without being exhaustive. That is a balance that many professionals fail to achieve. Congratulations on an excellent job- it speaks highly of your knowledge but more importantly your teaching skill set.

    • @nofyfb123
      @nofyfb123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      "Advanced" and "gm" in the same sentence?
      Otherwise, I agree - excellent overview.

    • @antoninpetras9093
      @antoninpetras9093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Amen. He made me understand the principles...

    • @Skylinecreations101
      @Skylinecreations101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I was taught by John Kelly he is an amazing teacher.

    • @living4christ
      @living4christ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Why can't GM put out the quality of toyota?

    • @jacobrzeszewski6527
      @jacobrzeszewski6527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Man, shit must’ve really hit the fan if you went from automotive engineering to retail.

  • @bobrichards1
    @bobrichards1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I have a friend who wholesales about 200 cars a month, mostly Toyotas, Hondas, and Subarus. He knew nothing about how this hybrid synergy drive worked, and the reason is simple. They buy cars in various states of disrepair, but have never had a Toyota hybrid with a mechanical problem.

  • @Indy_at_the_beach
    @Indy_at_the_beach 2 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    The design of this eCVT is absolutely brilliant. I stand in awe of the imagination of the engineers who dreamed it up.

    • @rkgsd
      @rkgsd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually the invention of the automatic transmission itself was brilliant for its time as was the manual tranny before that. Wet clutch/dry clutch automatics are nice little features too.

    • @BigEightiesNewWave
      @BigEightiesNewWave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Not brilliant , pure Genius.

    • @QuinnShaw
      @QuinnShaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's surprisingly simple too. I mean it's obiously a comlex piece of machinery with lots of code and thought, but there really arent an extreme number of moving parts and everything is very robustly built. I can't imagine this thing failing very easily. It almost makes you wonder why you didn't think of it yourself.

    • @rkgsd
      @rkgsd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@QuinnShaw As simplistic as they may be, there have been some reliability issues with CVTs in general. A good number of those were the Jacto units used in older Nissans.

    • @QuinnShaw
      @QuinnShaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@rkgsd yeah but these are designed totally differently. No belt/chain. All gear mesh… doesn’t even use clutches…

  • @timothy5974
    @timothy5974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    My daughter was gifted a 2016 RAV4 by her grandparents and I was real nervous about the hybrid technology but I better understand now. I’m an aviation mechanic and this technology is here to stay. Nice training video, excellent teacher.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Awesome! Best wishes

  • @ZanethMedia
    @ZanethMedia ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I came into this out of sheer curiosity and I am STUNNED at how cool this is and how well delivered this is

  • @paulcwyuen
    @paulcwyuen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    For some reasons this video makes me believe Toyota engineering is the best and most reliable. Thank you professor.

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It pretty much is, especially the Prius.

  • @mmcin719
    @mmcin719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video persuaded us to buy a Rav4 hybrid. The car is very good and very economical. After 2500km of a mix of freeway suburban and rural roads we are getting 5,5 litres per 100km. I anticipate that this transaxle and hybrid system will last for a very long time.

  • @L3x4Pr0ne
    @L3x4Pr0ne ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This guy is an absolute legend in teaching and advanced automotive engineering.
    These videos are the perfect blend of informative and non-repetitive.
    Well done.

  • @educosta21
    @educosta21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    As a kid I was into disassembling all the things. Thank you very much for giving me the same engineering satisfaction while allowing me to keep the car intact.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Awesome! Thanks for watching

    • @timjohnson1199
      @timjohnson1199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too. Well, don't disassemble this one, you'll never get it back together.

    • @mikepro-ww5fg
      @mikepro-ww5fg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@timjohnson1199 might not be 100 percent complete like the Japanese left it. But it think you could get it to work for a couple miles 😂

  • @tristanschaper281
    @tristanschaper281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    Thank you for a PERFECT video! Yes, perfect! I'm a technical engine and electrical guy, and I'm also thinking about buying a Highlander Hybrid as my next family car. I've been looking all over (including Toyota's site and literature) to figure out how the Hybrid worked both mechanically and electrically, AND how the sequence of operation worked. It honestly seems like Toyota does not provide any of this information anywhere to the car-buying public. Unfortunately most people really don't care. I am not one of those people, and you sure aren't either! You just got another subscriber, thank you!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Thank you very much

    • @fredpinczuk7352
      @fredpinczuk7352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@WeberAuto No, thank you!

    • @aussiedeplorable8670
      @aussiedeplorable8670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Toyota should advertise this ECVT, people are unaware of how brilliant it is and how it is completely different to the belt driven CVT's.

    • @TandNFox
      @TandNFox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@fredpinczuk7352 For someone with a mechanical and electrical mind this makes it much clearer to follow .
      It does make sense of economical driving practice and a reduction of wear and tear on all moving parts .

    • @miriamvivo4279
      @miriamvivo4279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Muchas gracias for your time and excellent explanation

  • @neilwerfel4591
    @neilwerfel4591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Perfect timing with this video as we just bought our new RAV4 Hybrid 3 days ago. How planetary gears work has always been more magic than physics to me but I think I now understand them. In John’s description of the eCVT and how MG1 varies it speed and direction, an analogy came to me. If I’m running on the ground I can vary my speed. If I’m on a moving sidewalk the sidewalk can vary its speed or even run backwards. This effects how much ground I’m covering. Mind blown.

  • @68404
    @68404 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fascinating.
    Toyota, a traditionally conservative company when it comes to engineering, blew every other manufacturer out of the park when it introduced this technology.
    Thank you for such a great master class.

  • @elcheapo5302
    @elcheapo5302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    Thank you, Professor. Mechanically, it's fairly simple. I'll bet the management software and logic was the real challenge.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      You are welcome. I agree

    • @paulg3336
      @paulg3336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Actually, compared to controlling an ignition system or fuel injection, the software is simple. Everything is happening at a snail's pace by processor standards and there are few inputs to monitor.

    • @ralanham76
      @ralanham76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@paulg3336 also the electrical motor s and system can react thousands of time per second so the response is even faster from the pedal input to the wheels

    • @rotorblade9508
      @rotorblade9508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      In principle it doesn’t look that complicated, but it’s a lot of work a thousands of details, in designing the complete electrical system even for a normal car.

    • @trazyntheinfinite9895
      @trazyntheinfinite9895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This and the honda system in the crv hybrid are cool as fck.

  • @AvocaSingleTrack
    @AvocaSingleTrack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    In our search for a Rav4 , no one...not even the dealer explained eCVT like this . I had no idea it was not a belt cvt . Thanks for the explanation.

    • @tails300
      @tails300 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This an extremely reliable transmission, even more so than conventional automatic or belt driven CVT.

    • @erik_dk842
      @erik_dk842 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tails300 Don't mention belt driven CVT and reliability in the same sentence.

  • @jeremygoorts9057
    @jeremygoorts9057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent job in explaining the technical details, enjoyed the refresh of my memory for the E-CVT Hybrid Transaxle. Gives me the urge to go back into the technical field.
    Keep up the great work

  • @lundy405
    @lundy405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for these videos! I love the way you break down and explain how the systems work with a genuine appreciation of the engineering behind it all!

  • @TL-xw6fh
    @TL-xw6fh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No one beats Toyota for sheer engineering brilliance! This design is simply amazing and the reason why Toyota Hybrids are so reliable and fuel efficient. It's such a simple design philosophy.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching

  • @ShatNdd
    @ShatNdd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    When the description of a vehicle operation is way more exciting & interesting than actual driving the car! :)

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lol! Thank you for watching

    • @ShatNdd
      @ShatNdd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WeberAuto Thank you for the great videos you make!
      P.S. I wait when Toyota will implement MG1 mechanical lock to allow highway cruise using ICE only with no electric transfer losses.

    • @MrPeteJMc
      @MrPeteJMc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you. Will be thinking of this as I drive my RAV4. Very interesting.

    • @Thegonagle
      @Thegonagle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Awesome! While the mechanics of Toyota, Ford, and similar ECVTs are easy to grasp, your explanation breaking their operation down to discrete modes has truly demystified the electronic magic behind them. Thank you, and I hope you have a great new year!

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that's only due to the waffle.
      It's a vehicle with an engine that can drive a generator or road wheels or both or neither. Big deal. It's not even really a hybrid, more of an engine to generator to motor drive. The concept of MG1 not propelling the vehicle isn't quite true either as it shares that load with the engine - which, in turn is shared with MG2. With the accelerator fully to the floor, MG1 should be propelling the vehicle in order to keep the engine running at its max power output.

  • @rainerhasler135
    @rainerhasler135 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unbelievable how much knowledge and intelligence was put in this gearbox. Respect to Toyota and Thanks to you John Kelly!

  • @stevenolan3380
    @stevenolan3380 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a superb demonstration. You have clearly spent ages researching all of this. Thank you very much. I hadn't realised there was not a drive belt in this CVT. This is so clever.

  • @EA-wx7gw
    @EA-wx7gw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    This is, BY FAR, the best explanation I saw about hybrid Toyota transmission
    Congratulations for such a superb video.
    After watching this I'm willing to buy a RAV4.Toyota should hire you ;-)

  • @jonhansen4745
    @jonhansen4745 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    What an Awesome presentation! Thank you, Professor Kelly for explaining the system so that even a novice can understand the basics. Your students are mighty fortunate to have you as a professor.

  • @RichyCoxmusic123
    @RichyCoxmusic123 ปีที่แล้ว

    A truly excellent video that helped a Mechanical Engineer understand the modern generation of hybrid engines (and also F1 race cars) in a clear and concise way. Thank you

  • @scottfurlong5475
    @scottfurlong5475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much for this explanation. This was a very interesting class. I was looking at a RAV4 prime for one of our future vehicles and the very thought of a CVT transmission had me looking the other way. I had no idea that it was simply two electric motors working together. This eased my mind greatly. Subscribed!

  • @ndufresne68
    @ndufresne68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Absolutely outstanding presentation. Thanks so much as I was steering clear of chain driven CVTs, whereas this is an extraordinarily ingenious use of the two motors to maintain car speed and the most efficient engine speed with few wearing parts. Congratulations Toyota!

  • @radar471
    @radar471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Concise explanation without insulting the intelligence of the audience! Fantastic video, thank you!

  • @user-dt8be4zq8z
    @user-dt8be4zq8z 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have no idea how I got here, but the explanation is so good that I couldn't leave untill the very end. Never knew people do such an amazingly detailed pure tech content here. Impressive!

  • @garywood60
    @garywood60 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Thank you Sir
    I enjoy this program even though I will never use it.
    At 70 now and not the best health I do believe in the saying Never stop Learning.
    It helps to keep your mind sharp.
    Thank you and God Bless and keep y'all safe.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you very much. Best wishes

    • @andrzejkwasny9895
      @andrzejkwasny9895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So do I!

    • @paulstein9258
      @paulstein9258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gary. Glad youngsters like you are still learning. As a senior, beyond your tender years, we retirees actually have time to read the manuals. As a result, I like the latest infotainment systems everyone complains about. Amazing how much the manuals help.

  • @martinhanson2382
    @martinhanson2382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s always a pleasure to hear your clear and detailed information on hybrid technology. Many thanks from the UK.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much

  • @georgelamacka8125
    @georgelamacka8125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So far, most comprehensive, excellent educational video of Toyota Hybrid models. I am motor mechanic with over 50 years experience. Attended some trainings at Toyota Training Centre of earlier Hybrid generations in South Australia 🇦🇺, but this is best from all.
    Thank you for your effort and time spent to put this video up. Very appreciated.

  • @906MediaProductions
    @906MediaProductions หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is such a well done video! I recently completed swapping a P610 into the rear of my Corvair and am in the process of wiring everything up. I'll be sharing your video to people that ask about how this works, you've explained it better than anyone I've seen yet.

  • @brassboy77
    @brassboy77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The elegance of this design surprised me. I had no idea that in many ways, this transmission is simpler than an standard automatic. I am not a mechanic or anything. Just like to see how things work. My son has one of these RAV 4 hybrids.

  • @ethanharris2897
    @ethanharris2897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This is an extremely interesting teardown! It's so simple yet genius in design and very well explained. I'm a dork for stuff like this and this video made my day!

  • @gavinsteven2157
    @gavinsteven2157 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an absolutely brilliant presentation. I have just bought the PHEV version and this has just blown my mind on the technical ability of Toyota in developing this e-CVT. Thank you

  • @sandwichxiii
    @sandwichxiii ปีที่แล้ว

    The fact that this is a free youtube video is astounding. Thank you for the breakdown.

  • @dangleduck9063
    @dangleduck9063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Amazing that this level of detail and explanation can be found for free online. Thank you very much sir, learning more everyday

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for watching

    • @miriamvivo4279
      @miriamvivo4279 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazing just joined

  • @mickwilcox1216
    @mickwilcox1216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I'm not an engineer and I have to really concentrate to understand these concepts but, as Professor Kelly explains them so well, I can. 15 years ago I would have had absolutely no chance trying to understand it from engineering books and of course I wouldn't have had access to such a peerless teacher. So thank you Professor Kelly, not only for your explanations and demonstrations but also for knowing how to exploit TH-cam to provide this experience.
    On the strength of watching it and being enthused by the technology I have bought a Suzuki Across (which is a rebadged Rav4 PHEV) so it was an expensive lesson!

  • @HaithamDawuid2424
    @HaithamDawuid2424 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video, I have enjoyed my 2020 RAV4 Hybrid Limited for almost two years now, it gets me 34.5 MPG on Sport mode, above 38.5 MPG in Normal mode. Thanks to you I now have more knowledge of how the engine works, I enjoyed every second of your video even though I'm not a mechanic, so thanks so much for that and wish you more successful videos like this.

  • @kevinfoley3027
    @kevinfoley3027 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree w/ Mr. Roggenbeck. The delivery was very elegant and clear. I'm looking forward to future videos pertaining to the Prime.

  • @roddyinscotland4968
    @roddyinscotland4968 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In the 1970’s, I studied Mechanical Engineering, thinking “they’ll always be needed”.
    And then I saw an electric drill where the speed was not changed by gears but electronically.
    Wow!
    Your video of Toyota’s eCVT is, for me, a similar lightbulb moment.
    Thank you very much for this clear and very understandable description.

  • @rainschris
    @rainschris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Much appreciated! Leading up to the purchase of my RAV4 hybrid, I continually came up short when trying to find anything as in-depth as this just for my own understanding. Great video!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Great to hear!

  • @tonyprice5344
    @tonyprice5344 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is hands down the best instructional video on TH-cam covering any subject. I have owned several Honda's with CVTs and just purchased a Toyota Rav4 Hybrid so I was curious as to how the CVT worked in the Rav4 versus the Hondas. Professor Kelly did a fantastic job at explaining it in great detail but also explaining it clearly making it easy to follow and understand. I am highly impressed with the design and function of this transmission. I live in Costa Rica and dependability is very important and this video gave a great deal of confidence in what I'll be driving. Thanks so much for this video.

  • @yt678901
    @yt678901 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How clear the video is, not even a single thing was confusing. This will be one of the greatest videos on planet.

  • @hilema41
    @hilema41 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    For people having issue figuring out the gear mechanism:
    Think of it as (mg1) walking on a treadmill (powered by the engine). Walking one direction makes you physically not move, being still on the mill makes you move the speed of the mill and walking the other direction makes you move at your speed+mill speed. Plus all the variations of speeds inbetween. Great technology I've seen a mockup made by a youtuber 10 years ago.

    • @Mormielo
      @Mormielo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So what's the energy contribution of MG1 to the motion of the car?

    • @rlderemer
      @rlderemer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      From his example of 65 mph, MG1 supplies about 30 % of energy to move the car through the series electrical path of MG1 as the generator and MG2 as the motor. The remaining 70 % is transmitted directly through the mechanical path of engine to planet gears to ring gear in parallel with MG2 . The split of the power, thus the energy contribution, varies as the eCVT ratio changes. The system is a combination of a series and parallel hybrid system at the same time. The system has two advantages 1) the engine is always operating at optimum efficiency point for the load and 2) about 70 % of the power is transmitted through the mechanical path which is more efficient than a pure electrical path.

    • @Mormielo
      @Mormielo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rlderemer I mean mechanical contribution

    • @rlderemer
      @rlderemer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mormielo It's contribution is electrical not mechanical. It enables the variable gear ratio. During highway driving it is used as a generator not a motor. The electrical power is used to power MG2. Many hybrid systems using 2 motors use the one connected to the ICE engine solely as a generator. These are called series hybrids. Examples are the latest Honda and Mitsubishi. These systems use the the first MG to generate electricity for the second MG. There is not a mechanical connection, except Honda has a clutch between the 2 motors at highway speeds to make a direct mechanical non-hybrid power flow.

  • @constantgatherer
    @constantgatherer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    An amazing piece of engineering that people usually overlook. Thanks for doing these videos.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you like them!

  • @tassosk966
    @tassosk966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We are so lucky that people take the time and the effort to explain to us topics like this. Thank you sir.

  • @primoroy
    @primoroy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Back in the 70s I use to think that Japanese imports were cheaply made econoboxes with cardboard interiors and motorcycle engines. Now THIS is an engineering marvel that I would happily own. 😊

  • @animalk1
    @animalk1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank Professor Kelly. I just discovered your videos and I am very thankful for the clear explanations with physical examples. It is obvious you are a great teacher! I am personally quite impressed with what Toyota has come up with while keeping in mind how long their hybrid systems have been on the market.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much

  • @MGXsport
    @MGXsport 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I bought a 2019 Prius XLE eAWD and a 2021 RAV4 XLE Hybrid mostly because of your deep dives into these transmissions. Keep up the great work and looking forward to seeing the rear motor axle videos!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is awesome! Thank you very much

  • @ShakeYourNoobs
    @ShakeYourNoobs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best doctor for automatic transmissions around the world! I am not a mechanic but I was interested and learned so much from a couple of his videos.

  • @jambatvee3803
    @jambatvee3803 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hands down the best explanation I’ve seen on Toyota hybrid ECVT. Thanks prof! Quite brilliant design. Toyota just changes the modes, motor sizes and high voltage batteries to suit a wide variety of models.

  • @GuyIncognito764
    @GuyIncognito764 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    This is engineering at it's best. Multiple functions from every part and yet so simple and elegant. Reliability will be great. This will be in the car we buy later this year. Thank you for the great overview!

  • @bendeleted9155
    @bendeleted9155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Thank you! That was outstanding. Glad to know there are no belts in my transmission.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you

    • @chrisherbert4454
      @chrisherbert4454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Only found out about this while looking at the RAV4 Prime as I was thinking that it’s amazing that the Prius and all of the other Toyota hybrids don’t seem to have transmission issues like so many other CVT’s

    • @ciello___8307
      @ciello___8307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@chrisherbert4454 yes, toyotas hybrids dont have traditional “cvt”s. Its essentially electric motors

    • @nicholaslandolina
      @nicholaslandolina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Belts are ok

    • @henryhonda8408
      @henryhonda8408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@nicholaslandolina I agree..... belts are good around the belly & crappy in a CVT

  • @anwalt693
    @anwalt693 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've watched this presentation twice now and learned as much the second time as I did the first. This is not because your explanation was unclear -- just the opposite. Rather, the first go-around I was repeatedly surprised, and thus a bit distracted. This is one of those educational experiences that bears repetition! Sincere thanks.

  • @tiberiu_nicolae
    @tiberiu_nicolae ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have nothing to do with cars except drive them, but this is an absolutely top-notch class. Clear, logical, and well paced. Excellent teacher.

  • @wimschoenmakers5463
    @wimschoenmakers5463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I appreciate my Toyota Hybrid more and more understanding the great technical advances they build in my car.
    Thanks for this great video. Fourthy interesting minutes.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you very much

    • @henryhonda8408
      @henryhonda8408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'll be thinking about this video tomorrow while driving my new 5 month old Rav4 XSE hybrid. I now see why Toyota hybrids get better mileage on the highway than Honda hybrids. Before my new Rav4 hybrid I drove a 2019 Honda Insight, it was absolutely got incredible mileage in the city (up to 75 mpg - Imperial gal) but on the highway it was disappointing.... Rav4 gets a bit better mileage on the highway which is incredible being an suv.

    • @gregbailey45
      @gregbailey45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Designed in cooperation with Tesla!

    • @flexairz
      @flexairz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Planetary gears, electric motors, batteries and ICE's are not even close to technological advances. Have been here for at least 100 years.
      Its the combination that is interesting.

    • @wimschoenmakers5463
      @wimschoenmakers5463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@flexairz sure, but....... then a smart Toyota engineer did put them together to build a verry fuel efficiënt car that people still use after 25 years until today.

  • @leekazan556
    @leekazan556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You remind me of my Aircraft Mechanic license instructors that were just experts in their field. I truly enjoyed your lesson and presentation and knowledge. Thank you!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow, thanks!

  • @rafaelgomez6194
    @rafaelgomez6194 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had tried to study this transmission several times without success. Thank you for such a magnificent explanation. I have understood it very well.

  • @davidwood4663
    @davidwood4663 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We just purchased a RX 450h and I was searching for a description of the drive train. I had no idea of the simplicity of the mechanical design. No more "slush bucket" automatics after watching this description . This video is extremely well done.

  • @zerodefcts
    @zerodefcts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Thank you Professor Kelly! It's pretty neat how they designed the transaxle to handle numerous real-world driving scenarios. One of these days I hope to get a better understanding of how planetary gear sets actually work. The "power split device" seems almost magical.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Glad you liked it!

    • @ivankuzin8388
      @ivankuzin8388 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi! Take a look here - th-cam.com/video/MsvVD0FaF28/w-d-xo.html
      In that video they focus more on a planetary gears themselves and you can see them, which helped me with the same issue :)

  • @Luigi13
    @Luigi13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well thought out and beautifully explained? There is more appreciation knowing how all the parts function in a hybrid vehicle and how power is supplied. Thank you.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My pleasure!

  • @johngibson2306
    @johngibson2306 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just a wonderful video, and I will just parrot what the retired GM engineer stated. Thank you Professor Kelly for giving me an understanding of how my RAV4 hybrid drive works.

  • @richardgalea9884
    @richardgalea9884 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Proffesor, the clarity of your lecture is much appreciated.

  • @HDJess
    @HDJess 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is so far my favorite transmission system. I wish all cars were made with something similar these days.

  • @grumpyoleman2152
    @grumpyoleman2152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very interesting and I continue to be in awe of your smooth delivery... smoother, I believe than a gravy sandwich.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much

  • @98silver98
    @98silver98 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    came here to make sure this was not another weak cvt that will just fail easily. I am glad to see all the gears and seemingly no weak links here. Considering the new prius with the ecvt and needed to know what was actually going on in there. Best explanation on the internet. Thank you

  • @IRONMIKETYO1966
    @IRONMIKETYO1966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Prof. No long intro or outro. Smooth delivery of information. I now really appreciate the workings of my Corolla hybr

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you like them!

  • @Snadistsiistii
    @Snadistsiistii ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear John, You’re amazing. The only additional thing I could ever hope for, is to have this class hands-on. Instructors like you are pure gold.

  • @sergey--24
    @sergey--24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've watched your video materials for a while and have to admit - they are amazing. Thanks for all your work.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much

  • @WeberAuto
    @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Corrections and Additions:
    1. Addition: In EV mode, sling lubrication from gear movement is provided to drip channels that feed bearings, gears, and stator cooling. The RAV4 Prime uses an external electric oil pump for use in EV mode.
    2. The 2021 Toyota Venza Hybrid also uses the P710 transaxle.
    3. Correction: At 27 minutes: In overdrive with MG1 spinning backward, the ICE RPM should be less than when it is in direct drive. I incorrectly said the ICE RPM was higher.
    4. Correction: The BTE chart at 23:06 is the wrong one for this ICE, it is for the non-hybrid ICE variant known as A25A-FKS (The related experiment is done by EPA, which provides all the details), while the engine for the Hybrid RAV4 is A25B-FKS with a slightly higher peak efficiency to 41%. The BTE plot of A25B is different from the A25A, with lower maximum torque, and a much larger high-efficiency area (it reaches 38% efficiency at 80 Nm until 2500 RPM), and the peak efficiency point/area is shifted to the left/downside. Thank you to viewer rt te for catching my error.

    • @koyrehme4361
      @koyrehme4361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Can you confirm the teeth on the planetary gears? R=S+2P doesn't work. I suspect the planet gears have 24 teeth.
      The RAV4 hybrid should have an A25A-FXS, I thought.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I have verified the tooth count on the planetary gears, 30, 23, and 78 is correct.

    • @Ian-iu2tl
      @Ian-iu2tl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Superb! I was going to ask about the oil pump drive shaft that you said was driven by the engine crankshaft at engine speed. But I am assuming that the sling lubrication is what provides oil for cooling and lubrication and is what takes over when the internal combustion engine is not running. Correct?

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Ian-iu2tl Thank you. You are correct

    • @maxgood42
      @maxgood42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was thinking Toyota may also have a mode 10 for MG1, eg; EV mode, engine clutch pack open, to drive oil pump without crank shaft rotation?

  • @Archers2005
    @Archers2005 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A simple Thank You :) Just yesterday I found out that Toyota eCVT is nothing like conventional CVT and I had to know how it works. I'm not any engineer just an average Joe who owns RAV4 2019 and I like to know how things work. Knowledge such as this or any other mechanical knowledge always helps in diagnosis of any faults and potential labour and cost.

  • @johnalbers8020
    @johnalbers8020 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent. Between your video and the video of the Care Car Nut, I clearly understand how the Toyota hybrid system works. Using the actual components really helps in the understanding of this system.

  • @ThePudgie123
    @ThePudgie123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow! ....verrrry interrrresting, as always!!! Thank you for taking the time to produce these vids!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure!

  • @Gg7up
    @Gg7up 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This was amazing! It showed up in my suggestions because I looked up bunch of reviews for Toyota RAV4 hybrid 2019 XLE.
    Even though I'm a dentist and nowhere close to auto engineering, it's amazing to understand how my SUV works. Thank you very much!! Loved the video

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Awesome, thank you!

    • @jakegolliher2891
      @jakegolliher2891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I find it amazing that as a dentist you can understand this, yet I could never understand dentistry haha

  • @OregonOrcadian
    @OregonOrcadian ปีที่แล้ว

    Professor Kelly, thanks so much for your great explanation. I bought a RAV4 Prime in October and have been searching for information on how it works. Although I understand it is not identical to the P710 you elucidate, it sounds like it is reasonably close. The engineering is truly awesome. Thanks again.

  • @MarkDHastingsMusic
    @MarkDHastingsMusic ปีที่แล้ว

    I am thinking that you must score extremely well in all of your student evaluations. Kudos on your organization and clarity explaining this topic!

  • @ELGUAPOMOTO
    @ELGUAPOMOTO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    you sir are a walking mechanical engineering textbook!
    amazing explaination.
    Godbless your knowledge and effort to share everything here in TH-cam. this is a goldmine!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much

  • @johnglowatz6969
    @johnglowatz6969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Professor Kelly
    Thank you so much for these videos. I prefer to know a "little more" about my car than the average user and this is info even the salemen at the car dealers dont know. Because of your videos I have been able to make a confident decision on my next car between the Hybrid CRV and the Rav4 Prime. Keep up the excellent work!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @tomjordan5832
    @tomjordan5832 ปีที่แล้ว

    Magnificent engineering and presentation !!! I was with Toyota 11 years and was the inventor of Toyoguard in 1977. Capt. Tpm

  • @ThanhTruongNguyen1909
    @ThanhTruongNguyen1909 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My absolute respect, sir, from Vietnam, for the amazing job you've done.

  • @Diegoalvarezar
    @Diegoalvarezar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You, John D. Kelly, are amazing! Great video and great explanation as always!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much

  • @Normambo
    @Normambo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Highly informative, thank-you. This was my first video from your channel. Very much looking forward to your next video and especially for the Hybrid AWD Highlander.
    Thanks again.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome, thank you!

  • @rotary65
    @rotary65 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this very clear and comprehensive video. Now I can finally explain how my 2019 Rav 4 Hybrid moves.

  • @curiositykilledthecat1557
    @curiositykilledthecat1557 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. Very well explained with actual parts. The design is brilliant and far simpler than imagined. I come to this channel when I want real engineering without the hype. Thanks again.

  • @ahmedyassir5569
    @ahmedyassir5569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When he spun the gears by hand it really made me appreciate how far we have come in manufacturing precision no noise no vibration or wobbling and spins for long even without oil
    Nonetheless excellent video with so much info

    • @JayDee-xj9lu
      @JayDee-xj9lu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At 5:07 I got worried he was going to jam his finger between the case and the gear. I was discussing this transmission at a car yard the other day and none of the salesman had a clue of how this transmission worked. Fascinating stuff.

  • @oveidasinclair982
    @oveidasinclair982 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I loved this video, I would never purchase a CVT transmission car, but the simplicity and robustness in the breakdown of the eCVT changed my mind completely on these. I own a 2013 RAV4 FWD paired with a 6 speed standard transmission now, but when it's time for another vehicle, I will most definitely will be looking at one of these.

    • @pdx650
      @pdx650 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You must not be living in America, because there are no manual transmission available for that year in the US. Similarly, when in Germany in 2009, I saw that the, then new, Kia Sportage was available with a Diesel engine and a manual transmission. I wish those were available to the US market, but never were.

    • @luizbruno2010
      @luizbruno2010 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pdx650standard automatic transmission

    • @jayzee895
      @jayzee895 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You clearly don't know anything about engineering or transmissions and will believe anything someone tells you that's negative...
      Citation: my 07 Nissan with 195,000 miles on the ORIGINAL, OEM CVT... and my education as an engineer.

    • @TheMajorLeagueGinger
      @TheMajorLeagueGinger 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Did you change fluid? Many Nissans have cvt implosion due to dirty fluid since dealers claim it's lifetime fluid​@@jayzee895

  • @soulmate07748
    @soulmate07748 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent presentation. Much clearer, well organized and easier to follow than others I've seen. Thank you.

  • @pcxxy
    @pcxxy 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you so much for the excellent explanation on how ecvt works. Been always interested in how it differs from the traditional belt cvt and you've clearly and concisely explained Toyota's genius design!

  • @onefastslimjim
    @onefastslimjim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much Professor Kelly, every video you make is just amazing and informative!

  • @ray_c_yuen
    @ray_c_yuen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm in awe of the knowledge in your head sir. You explain things so clear and concisely. I guess my transaxle in my 2021 Camry is as close to a 'solid state' CVT as physically possible. Keep up the great videos. Ray.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!

  • @stonechips
    @stonechips 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are awesome. I've been learning a lot about hybrids and EVs with them. Thanks for sharing the knowledge

  • @wizardofhyd
    @wizardofhyd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you professor Kelly, your explanation was very well done and demystifies the Toyota ECVT, which is especially important to automotive enthusiasts like me who have a bad taste in their mouths from the Nissan CVT. It puts my anxiety to rest since I’m considering a Toyota hybrid.
    I appreciate the ingenuity of the Toyota engineers in coming up with this system, hats off to you them for creating the ECVT.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @bleddyjj
    @bleddyjj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for this! I watched your other videos and love your detailed and clear explanations of the wonderful hybrid system. Greetings from a snowy Dublin 🙂

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much

  • @mvcnj9700
    @mvcnj9700 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    What an amazing tutorial. I am a Chemist by training. Still, I thoroughly enjoyed learning everything about the Toyota eCVT. have a much better understanding of this because you used the actual transmission to teach it and explained it in a carefully orchestrated sequence. Well done Professor!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you very much!

  • @brucecochran8297
    @brucecochran8297 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have a 22 Rav, HB. Love the car and am impressed by your presentation. Learned a great deal about our car, thank you.

  • @johnmehaffey9953
    @johnmehaffey9953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I know why you are a professor, knowledge is good, getting the knowledge to the student is what defines a teacher , top work prof, greetings from Ireland

  • @ericgosselin1947
    @ericgosselin1947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Amazing explanation of how the eCVT work ! Nice work and thank you for this great educational video. Keep them coming :)

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you liked it!

  • @chasfischer2844
    @chasfischer2844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Professor, watched several of your earlier videos and other youtube videos and answer my own questions. Once again great videos.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much

  • @jorgeangeleri9516
    @jorgeangeleri9516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Mr Kelly. You are an amazing Professor. Thank you so much for your great, clear and brillant explanation. Cheers from Argentina.

  • @Groveland64
    @Groveland64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant. I have to admit, I had a hard time keeping up but I know much more about my Camry engine than before.